its rifle camp, west patterson.. Not really the best for mountain biking, but it's doable, he does everything, so many better options if you head north a bit for getting some flow. But in a pinch, i might even do it since its so close.
@@MattCoffy 🤔 Not really the best for mtb'ing... Not sure what that actually means. It's vague and shortsighted. Is there a mandate requiring that only specific trails and tracks are mtb approved? I suppose if one is limited in thinking and possibly lacking adaptation and versatility, it makes some sense. But otherwise it seems like a silly statement...🤷♂️ Like Rob, I ride EVERYWHERE and everything. Extreme tech, DH, single track, rail trails, tow paths, etc. It's all good and fun. AND it all has something to offer and learn. 👍
@@archetypex65 Hello there, fellow rider! I see you’ve taken an interest in my comment, and I appreciate the chance to discuss this further. It seems there may have been a bit of a misunderstanding, so let’s unpack this together-because assumptions, while tempting, can often lead us astray. First off, let’s tackle the core issue: this particular trail is not an official mountain biking trail in New Jersey. In fact, it’s clearly marked as “bikes prohibited” according to the parks department’s designation. My original comment wasn’t about encouraging people to defy those guidelines but rather to help others understand the distinction between trails designed for mountain biking and those best left for hiking. For many, the goal is simply to find trails that are safe, accessible, and suitable for their skill level-not to push boundaries unnecessarily. Now, I totally get that you have a perspective shaped by your own experiences, and that’s valid! But when engaging in discussions like these, it’s often more constructive to offer suggestions or alternative viewpoints rather than simply counterarguing. That way, we can create a dialogue that invites understanding rather than conflict. If we were chatting in person with a group of riders, I’d likely point out that there are plenty of fantastic, bike-appropriate trails within a five-mile radius of this location. Trails that cater to all levels of riders, without putting anyone in an awkward position of navigating difficult or prohibited terrain. This particular trail, as it stands, simply isn’t one of them. As for the adventurous spirit you’ve mentioned, I absolutely relate! Since my BMX days in the '80s, I’ve explored all kinds of unconventional terrains and pushed boundaries where it made sense. I admire that same spirit in others. But even then, there’s wisdom in recognizing when a trail is better left as a hiking path for everyone’s safety and enjoyment. Ultimately, this isn’t about who’s “more special” or “more knowledgeable.” It’s about understanding that most people are just trying to enjoy their ride without unnecessary complications or assumptions. So, while we may differ in opinion, I sincerely wish you all the best in your biking adventures. May your tires find the smoothest trails and the toughest challenges, whichever you prefer! Hope to see you out on the trails someday-until then, happy riding! 🚵♂
@@MalachiMarvin yeah, it's backed up against the Reservoir. That's why it's a hiking designated trail, you won't see any bikers on this typically. And be careful of cops. As I said, my last comment not for your average Joe , because of the legal issue, but c'est la vie, when it's quiet nobody's around OK, like he's ridden.. It's not bad. It's just you're risking probably more than you need. If you had the day open, just go over to Verona.
@johnrovetto3528 one needs to be willing to have their bike confiscated and fined or out run the authorities, but I don’t advise others to do what I do.
@@OffRoadCycling correct, this is why I don't understand that there are people that think this is a good idea to counter argue the point, for those interested in taking these risks. I enjoy the content, and I understand the thrill of riding in these areas, I've done several things similar to this trail all over New Jersey in the past... but like many things just be careful and stay safe, it's up to you to make the best decision.
@@MattCoffy fyi - I don't tell anyone about my videos nor will I ever be looking for compensation, they started as a way to learn my way around all the parks when I was new to the sport in 2020. It has evolved into a hobby which will give me great memories when I am unable to participate in the sport later in life. Yes, I ride where I should not but as noted that's on me. Going forward I will not be providing park names, maps or routes when riding places not sanctioned and letting viewers know this at the start and end of the videos.
Very interesting trail
9:44 deer looking at you like WTF LoL And 15:47
@@jeffanderson614 I was going to make finding the 4 deer along with naming the park I’m in from the title as a hint, a game for viewers!
Yeah helmet view is ok, but i like the chest 👍
Nice video. Where is this?
its rifle camp, west patterson.. Not really the best for mountain biking, but it's doable, he does everything, so many better options if you head north a bit for getting some flow. But in a pinch, i might even do it since its so close.
@@MattCoffy Thanks. I just wanted to look at a map so I could understand the reason for all the fencing. I see now.
@@MattCoffy 🤔 Not really the best for mtb'ing...
Not sure what that actually means. It's vague and shortsighted. Is there a mandate requiring that only specific trails and tracks are mtb approved? I suppose if one is limited in thinking and possibly lacking adaptation and versatility, it makes some sense. But otherwise it seems like a silly statement...🤷♂️
Like Rob, I ride EVERYWHERE and everything. Extreme tech, DH, single track, rail trails, tow paths, etc. It's all good and fun. AND it all has something to offer and learn. 👍
@@archetypex65 Hello there, fellow rider!
I see you’ve taken an interest in my comment, and I appreciate the chance to discuss this further. It seems there may have been a bit of a misunderstanding, so let’s unpack this together-because assumptions, while tempting, can often lead us astray.
First off, let’s tackle the core issue: this particular trail is not an official mountain biking trail in New Jersey. In fact, it’s clearly marked as “bikes prohibited” according to the parks department’s designation. My original comment wasn’t about encouraging people to defy those guidelines but rather to help others understand the distinction between trails designed for mountain biking and those best left for hiking. For many, the goal is simply to find trails that are safe, accessible, and suitable for their skill level-not to push boundaries unnecessarily.
Now, I totally get that you have a perspective shaped by your own experiences, and that’s valid! But when engaging in discussions like these, it’s often more constructive to offer suggestions or alternative viewpoints rather than simply counterarguing. That way, we can create a dialogue that invites understanding rather than conflict.
If we were chatting in person with a group of riders, I’d likely point out that there are plenty of fantastic, bike-appropriate trails within a five-mile radius of this location. Trails that cater to all levels of riders, without putting anyone in an awkward position of navigating difficult or prohibited terrain. This particular trail, as it stands, simply isn’t one of them.
As for the adventurous spirit you’ve mentioned, I absolutely relate! Since my BMX days in the '80s, I’ve explored all kinds of unconventional terrains and pushed boundaries where it made sense. I admire that same spirit in others. But even then, there’s wisdom in recognizing when a trail is better left as a hiking path for everyone’s safety and enjoyment.
Ultimately, this isn’t about who’s “more special” or “more knowledgeable.” It’s about understanding that most people are just trying to enjoy their ride without unnecessary complications or assumptions. So, while we may differ in opinion, I sincerely wish you all the best in your biking adventures. May your tires find the smoothest trails and the toughest challenges, whichever you prefer!
Hope to see you out on the trails someday-until then, happy riding! 🚵♂
@@MalachiMarvin yeah, it's backed up against the Reservoir. That's why it's a hiking designated trail, you won't see any bikers on this typically. And be careful of cops. As I said, my last comment not for your average Joe , because of the legal issue, but c'est la vie, when it's quiet nobody's around OK, like he's ridden.. It's not bad. It's just you're risking probably more than you need. If you had the day open, just go over to Verona.
Trail Forks list the trails as hike only
@@johnrovetto3528 that’s why the video starts and ends saying bicycling prohibited 🙂
@@OffRoadCycling I noticed after I commented. So what allowed ORC to ride it? I watch these videos to scope out rides I'd like to try
@johnrovetto3528 one needs to be willing to have their bike confiscated and fined or out run the authorities, but I don’t advise others to do what I do.
@@OffRoadCycling correct, this is why I don't understand that there are people that think this is a good idea to counter argue the point, for those interested in taking these risks. I enjoy the content, and I understand the thrill of riding in these areas, I've done several things similar to this trail all over New Jersey in the past... but like many things just be careful and stay safe, it's up to you to make the best decision.
@@MattCoffy fyi - I don't tell anyone about my videos nor will I ever be looking for compensation, they started as a way to learn my way around all the parks when I was new to the sport in 2020. It has evolved into a hobby which will give me great memories when I am unable to participate in the sport later in life.
Yes, I ride where I should not but as noted that's on me. Going forward I will not be providing park names, maps or routes when riding places not sanctioned and letting viewers know this at the start and end of the videos.