Helluva Boss Therapist Analysis: How Stolas Deals with Octavia's Abandonment Issues.
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Psychotherapist Georgia Dow delves into the intricate relationship between Stolas and his daughter Octavia in Helluva Boss. She explores how Stolas addresses Octavia's abandonment worries and the emotional complexities of their bond. Discover the psychological insights behind their interactions in this in-depth character analysis.
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Hi Georgia can you do one with Valentino please? Maybe to explain why he get's Angry with Angel. Could Val mean to get angry? Or is it because of stress and something that happen to him too like Angel? And my biggest question is does he like it Evan if it's on purpose or not? Could the twisting word thing that Val does to make Angel blame himself had Happens to him? And maybe that's all that Val thinks he has to believe like Angel does sadly.Only you can figure it out. Thank You
Hey Georgina.
Are there any resources to figure out how to get my emotions back?
My parents basically doused me with Anxiety Medication to maximum level allowed by the doctor as a teenager/Young Adult.
@@kwitshadie6539 I have 2 suggestions. Try meditating. You close your eyes and breath in and out slowly until you calm down. Or if that does not work there's a natural plant called Cloves. They are a type of bud from a flower that helps calm anxiety and they make your happy hormones in your body work. It helps me with stress of anger sometimes. I know it can help with your anxiety. Cloves are a natural medicine. I hope I was abbe to help.
@GeorgiaDow You should do an analysis of what happened in the new episode Apology Tour. Also, I would still like to see an analysis of the relationship Blitzo, Moxxie, and Millie share, there's a lot of interesting dynamics there. Just be careful not use too many clips that are too long of the characters talking, so you don't have to worry about another frivolous copyright claim.
My favorite is how Stolas teaches baby Octavia that even when he's gone, she'll be okay instead of lying to her and saying he'll never leave (speaking in the grand scheme of things like death). He's teaching her that even if he is physically gone, he's never not nearby as long as she holds him close to her heart, which is very healing for a child with abandonment issues and also very realistic expectations that don't upset the child or make their fear worse.
yes it is such a healthy way to handle it = )
This is very important since she is a provisional heir.
Top 3 best song in the Hellaverse imo
If left the psychology analysis for a moment. As a fan I worried, cause I think those sounded like foreshadowing his death... I hope he's just being a thoughtful parent.
@@RFakonWolf_Art unfortunately, i think it is foreshadowing his death, cause information in Western Energy made it sound like Goetia wont die unless directly killed by angelic weaponry.
One thing both Blitzø and Stolas do well, in spite of all their issues, they really care about their daughters.
If only luna could be reciprocative with her dad more often even when he doesnt need it at the moment like he did after the party at bees
@@jacobweatherford4696 The issue is, she thinks that's just how Blitz is. She was confused when Blitz asked if she's going to be there for him. She possibly picked up the bad habit of drinking from Blitz as well.
@@rise.-mikey i mean yeah that is a possibility but it seems like she was drinking alot even before she met blitz going off those pics which might have been from before she was adopted
Parent-child relationships are a major theme for Hazbin and Helluva
@@jacobweatherford4696I think it is but that is very understandable. She was abandoned, nobody had faith in her and Blitz loves her but needs to express it more openly. I think they will get through it.
Considering how he was raised, I think he's doing pretty well as a parent.
To be fair annyone can do a bitter job that Stolas dad, you just have to show up
Believe me, some dads would do a better job, by not showing up.
I love the detail of Octavia immediately suggesting something she probably knew Stolas wouldnt be interested in, and then giggling when he agrees. Kind of like a test to see if he's actually willing to listen to her moving forward 🥰
One thing i love about Georgia's videos is that she's able to be objective. Too often, people either act like stolas is faultless or they act like he's shitty and doesn't care about his kid enough, which neither of the extremes are true. Stolas is an extremely loving and attentive father but he has blindspots and is largely also not even a fully fleshed out person himself due to how he was raised and the situations he was forced into. From calculations people have done, Stolas was married and a dad by the time he was 17/18. He didn't get a chance to fully discover himself or even be an adult before he was placed in an abusive marriage and put in charge of raising a child. When you have your youth stolen from you like that, you will act out, and in Stolas case, he acted out once he finally got his first taste of freedom and he thought his child was old enough to handle it. It was a miscalculation yes, because he didn't realize just how fearful Octavia is of losing him, but it was by no means such a malicious action that justifies painting him as a shitty parent on the whole the way people do.
thank you very much for this and very accurate thought on stolas
PREACH
When this episode first came out I assumed that Stolas and Stellas' marriage was arranged and that they never fell out of love, which was confirmed at the start of the second season. What I couldn't understand is why he couldn't or hadn't told that to Octavia, because she didn't seem like she was aware of that. Come season 2 and we learn that Stolas wanted Octavia to have a normal life, which looking back makes sense.
Stolas endured Stelas' abuse for years and kept it secret from her in order to protect her, which was extremely selfless and brave of him to do. He just couldn't keep doing it and therefore things quickly spiralled out of control.
Exactly, that's why i get so irritated when people try to demonize Stolas or act like he doesn't care. No, he cares alot but he's also someone experiencing his first taste of freedom after years of being abused, neglected and only living for his daughter.
I think he didn't say it because he didn't want her to feel unwanted. Like when kids find out they are oopsie babies, sometimes they feel their parents didn't want them. "We had you as a precautionary heir" isn't something she would have taken well.
Honestly? I wish he had told Via. ):
She has no idea how much Stolas has sacrificed for her.
@@suicune2001 Exactly
@@origamipein18 I think Stolas' whole thing is, he doesn't want Octavia to feel gulity or unwanted. Knowing you're the reason your parent forced himself to act like everything was ok even though he was abused is already going to be a major hit, even more so if you find out he did it for a child he was forced to have. Like logistically, we all know that even if Stolas didn't want the life he got back then, he loves Octavia more than anything, but even if you know something logically, you'll still have doubts.
"I haven't been h...(appy)" "we w weren't in... (Love)" Loved it
I'm actually curious to find out how Octavia interacts with Stella to better understand their relationship. It never occurred to me at first how Stolas took his daughter to the carnival and enjoyed his time there more than she did. Just like what his dad did to him when he was younger.
I wouldn't be surprised if Octavia didn't have much interaction with her mom. Her mom is a straight sociopath.
Octavia: “ Why does he hate her more than he loves me” (Season 2 Episode 2 Seeing Stars)
The fact that she’s even asking that question shows that Stolas went to great lengths to hide his troubles from her during childhood - otherwise she would know *exactly* why he hates her mother so much.
@@wilberwhateley7569 A part of me wants to agree with you... Another part remembers being 15 and Daddy leaving me behind to get away from our abuser...
I found out later he only did that because he thought it'd be better for my future since she took absolutely everything and he didn't even have a safe place for me. I'd have still rather a couch and him, but when Octavia said that line I had to pause the episode and come back later.
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I mean, sometimes, it’s a combination of deliberately hiding it but also, she is very desensitized to this kind of family life. We can infer she doesnt really have much outside relationships like friends besides Loona ig so she has no idea what a “healthy” relationship looks like. It’s gone to surface level annoyance but not really registering that it’s an abusive household.
Once you know the backstory though, taking her to the circus makes more sense. Stolas ended up loving the circus (or at least one clown there), made his first friend (as far as he was concerned) and ended up having a wonderful day. In his case, it worked. So of course it's what he turned to.
That said, he does seem almore than a little oblivious, since he had fond memories of seeing clowns, he assumed her tears as a young child were tears of joy seeing the clowns, when from her expression in the flashback, you can tell were certainly not.
For me - coming from a divorced household that went really poorly - that first episode of Helluva really hit me in a way that really hurt because seeing how Octavia deals with the damage around her was familiar to me, even when Stolas tried so hard to reconnect with her. The line from Octavia saying “Why does he hate her, more than he loves me?” Brought me to instant tears. Thank you for analyzing their relationship, it makes me feel a lot better knowing that I wasn’t alone in my experiences and that there is logic behind why people act this way ❤
Same here, though I remember my own dad reassuring me several times unprompted that the best things to happen to him during his marriage to my mother is both my brother and I so I never had that question. I do remember once just begging my mom to divorce my dad not because I wanted to lose either parent or I wanted them to be separate, but I was just so tired of the fighting and wanted my parents back. I didn't get my wish until 3 years (almost 4 actually) after that, but thankfully the fighting did end and I could have my parents back in my life, even if they were separated.
So many stories out there... My parents seperated when I was eight and later got divorced, and I never quite understood why. My mom said it was because she didn't love my dad anymore, and my dad just let her go, even though he was still very much in love with her. But I've also heard from friends that they just want their parents to get a divorce because of them constantly fighting.
It's a highly difficult subject to approach... Thanks for letting me rant, I don't have anyone to turn to. My dad just doesn't want to be confronted with the topic and my mom keeps on rambling about her reasons, although by now I could hardly care less. And my friends wouldn't understand because their parents are (almost) all still happily married. Sorry.
I’m so sorry to both of you that you guys had to go through that, my best wishes for both of you and your families going forward ☺️
Interestingly enough I also wished for my parents to get divorced because they simply seemed miserable all the time
One thing I really love about Stolas is how honest he always is. He tries to be positive and soften the blow of bad news, but he never lies about it. He does not tell her he will never leave. He tells her when he someday is gone, she will be okay. Ne does not pretend to her that everything at home is okay. He just tries not to let it spill onto her as much as he is able. Because he did not lie about the stuff that hurts, Octavia is more likely be believe him when he says he will NEVER abandon her.
I think Stolas is the sort of paternal figure that most people would wish to have; Bumbling and clumsy, and fucking up on occasion, but overall a very loving, caring, and attentive parent.
Most definitely! 👍
In the most recent episode, he covered all the portraits in the house. Except for his daughter's.
Good thing to tell a kid is "No matter how many times you need to heart it, just ask. I love you. I am here for you." Let them know that you are ready to reaffirm it when ever they need or just want it.
no, those coverings are marking the things that Stella is taking in the divorce
I heavily love Octavia. She deserves so much better and I hate the hate she getsss😭🥲
Does Octavia get a lot of hate? I don't think I've ever seen her get hate on.
@@FireheadLazzo maybe not whole lot on yt but in TikTok yes. Their mad at her for being mad at Stolas 😭 which imo she has a right to be
She's such an interesting character and I'd love to see more of her. It was so brief but in Seeing Stars I loved getting to see her on her own as well as with Loona
@@spookyrandomthoughts She’s mad at her father because, from where she is standing, his behavior is ruining the relationship he had with her mother and it’s causing havoc in the household - the reality, of course, is that they always despised each other and that Stolas went to great lengths to hide this from his child.
She’s angry because there is so much that she doesn’t know - if she knew what he was actually going through, I believe that she would have a very different outlook on the unfolding events around her.
@@wilberwhateley7569 exactly and people need to understand that😭
Another great cosplay, and another great analysis. Stolas may not be a perfect parent, he may make the same mistakes as his father on occasion, but he always tries his best, and genuinely cares about Octavia and giving her a better childhood than his. It's really sweet to see.
Breaking the generational trauma cycle is already a big step.
Agreed. I love that Stolus doesn't get it right 100% of the time, it feels more realistic.
Well said, that's why he's one of my favorite cartoon dads.
And he really tries and I appreciate that so much in him : ). Thank you Dan not my most extreme cosplay but enjoyed making the star shirt
To be fair, Octavia is actually listening to "the World is Burning Down Around Me" by 'F*** You Dad'
Haha true ! Lol
Growing up in a divorced family, I've had to endure a lot of the same kinds of drama and tension that Octavia's going through, and her fears resonate on a foundational level for me. Even when parents try to keep their kids out of the middle of a divorce, it's impossible _not_ to feel like you're being pulled in two directions at once, and it's easy to start internalizing the belief that their unhappiness is _your fault._
What hits me hardest about the dynamic between Stolas and Octavia is the authenticity of their dialogue, both _to_ each other and _about_ each other. There's lines that you don't write -- that you don't even *_think_*_ to write_ -- unless you've been in that headspace yourself; Octavia has _two,_ one in Season 1's second episode and the other in the second episode of Season 2: "I just wanna go _home..._ but home doesn't even feel like _home_ anymore... _you _*_ruined_*_ it...!",_ and "Why does he _hate _*_her_* more than he _loves _*_me?!"_* Those lines *_destroyed me_* because of how close to my _own_ emotional scars they landed, because they felt so unbelievably _real._
From what Season 2's trailer has shown us, we're not done getting destroyed by the fallout of the divorce and the impact it's having on Octavia, not by a _long_ shot.
One thing I notice in Stolas in general (that we’ve seen a few times) is he doesn’t really listen to others until they break. Via said over and over she didn’t want to go and he ignored her. Blitz said for him to keep it in his pants and he talked down to him. He tends to do this sort of thing to Blitz and Via a lot in the series. I love Stolas but every time he does this to them I was to reach into the show and tell him to listen to them now not after that get to their breaking point. I do think he loves Via and is doing what he can but he hasn’t broken this habit yet. I hope it’s not just glossed over in the show because it seems to be a majority point of issue with the people he loves and cares about.
As you said we don't know much about her relationship with Stella, but from what we've seen so far they don't seem very close. Not just from Stella refusing to check on her in the night, but also if you look at the walls in Octavia's room, she has a drawing of just her and her dad, no mom. And it's always Stolas holding her in the portraits we see around the house. Also someone pointed out that we've never seen her and her mom talk to each other
This is one of those thing that seems like it will go on in the season, but hopefully we can figure it out. The season preview seems to still have her "competing" with Blitz it seems, like how it came up in the going to LA episode.
Stolas would never abandon her, but seems a little poor at listening sometimes and being busy, but it always hits him like a truck when he realizes he messed up again. Again, everyone's trauma crashing into the station in different ways in this show haha
That probably comes from the fact that his own father was largely absent from his life - he doesn’t have a role model for that kind of behavior and thus has to learn it from scratch.
Octavia attention let’s go! I wasn’t sure if there’d be enough for a video
Lucifer probably made Lulu world for Charlie when she was a child.
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Headcanon accepted
Octavia time! I feel called out on the sleep training your kid. 😂 It’s much easier to just keep cuddling to help them sleep, even when your little ones grow up. We ended up having to slowly move a chair out of our kid’s room over a few weeks but he falls asleep on his own now!
I appreciate how much Stolas has tried to be part of Via’s life, especially with the role model he had with Paimon.
Yeah. I have a nephew who refused to fall asleep unless his mom was in the room, even as old as 12.
I love Stolas. He is very empathic and tries to bring out the joy in others. While he isn’t a perfect parent, he cares deeply.
"Those who fail to learn from history are bound to repeat it" -Wiston Churchill
I love when she cosplays as the character shes talking about ❤
Every character in this universe has daddy issues.
Like in the Pokemon universe. 😂
The Daddy issues are neverending. 😂.
Except Millie
@matcha_zuki5597 Millie is the only normal character. I think that's why they rarely do anything with her.
And Mommy Issues!
I bawled so much to the first viewing (with multiple rewinds) of 'you will be ok' and have the world burning down around me on my favs playlist. So cathartic.
Nailed the Octavia cosplay, well done!
You absolutely need to watch Good Omens!! Not only is it an amazing watch but it also deals with religious trauma and communication issues
Stolas really does start to figure out how to parent better as time goes on. Makes me wonder how my parents raised me cause most of those memories are lost to the depression haze.
So for putting kids to sleep/ teaching them to fall asleep, I like the "I'll be back" method (my name for it). Put them in the bed, go through your routine, then leave to do some small a chore or task and tell them you'll be back (ex: "I'm going to go put your toys away", or "I'm going to go rinse the dishes").
Leave for 1 minute, then come back to check on them, ask them if their ok, etc....
Then lane and repeat, this time for 2 minutes. Then 3, 5, 10 ect... until they are completely asleep.
It also helps to make some quiet, soothing noise while you are leaving/returning such as humming a melody.
This allows them to sit with their thoughts and teaches them to fall asleep while still reassuring them that your are still there. They will hear you as they fall asleep & know/expect you to keep coming back. This can help reduce anxiety as the kids falls asleep since they know your still nearby & know what you're doing while they sleep. (They don't feel like their missing out)
still hopping for that striker episode
"Is nobody taking you seriously because you accidentally sexually charge every interaction with others?"
I suspect there's still aspects of his character and backstory that we haven't seen yet. As he said to Stolas, "Some of us have _hard lives_ to live... and _some of us_ have *_everything we care about_*_ taken away by _*_rich f@%kers like YOU!"_*
Something _happened_ to Striker that hardened him into an anti-Goetic supremacist, some tragedy that he's directly connected to the avian Goetia royalty -- and I have a sneaking suspicion that we've already met the one who turned Striker into a _monster._
I suspect that having lululand with his daughter and a date with Blitz at the same time is the chance for Stolas to have the image of a happy family, Blitz who actually gave him the most love in his life at this point instead of Stella
Maybe he let himself get wrapped into that illusion for a moment, even though the reality for both Octavia and Blitz was very different
My dad used to let me sister sleep in his bed or on his chest all the time as a baby, and it caused her to HAVE to sleep in my dads bed with him until she was almost 11 years old because she physically could not sleep unless she was in his bed.
Are you sure it wasn't some kind of incestuous attraction issues or emotional dependence that went too long or eventually down a dark place for her and not her dad?
@@Slayer12349no, it wasn’t like that, she just got so used to it over time because he’d done that since she was born, my mom had surgery right after, so she couldn’t really have that skin to skin for a while. By the time my mom was able to do that, she’d already bonded really well with my dad. So not incestuous, just a MAJOR daddy’s girl. Lol.
I think its interesting because my parents were never cuddly with me or even around me, yet in my relationships i am very cuddly to both my boyfriend and my friends.
I know this isn't the intention behind these videos, but hearing you call out what's happening on screen and what's happening with the characters helped me a lot.
I'm going through so much since a couple months now, but I've tried to get up again.
Hearing you talk about all these issues made me realize that there's a world inside of me I need to discover and open up about. Thank you for that.
I was hoping the scene from “Seeing Stars” was in here I love that Loona Octavia moment
Hearing you talk about the effects of screaming and dysfunctional homes on children definitly helped me understand what my therapists have been telling me. I
Was diagnosed with ptsd and gad and it’s hard to understand how my childhood caused that. But hearing you talk about the effects of constant conflict on the body made me relize how much yelling and noise there was in my home
I am so happy that this was helpful this is what I hope to do thanks
My thoughts are loudest during the day, when the sun is bright and I can't center myself and everything is just too much. The night is my solace, the dark and the quiet.
"Night changes many thoughts." - Aragorn
In the books it was Theodan who says it.
i feel like i love hugs but only when it's necessary. like one of my bestfriends LOVES hugging people and sometimes just does NOT STOP TOUCHING ME which really makes me feel uncomfortable. i have told him that i don't like it and he's been trying to stop though he still does it (which is fine i'm just happy he's trying. my guess is he finds safety and comfort in hugging people since he has daddy issues and/or it's just his personality, but i could be totally wrong.) though, i LOVE hugs from my dad, sister, or mom whenever i'm crying or going through something (and i think that's very relatable for a lot of people as well.)
26:07 This is a big admission from Stolas, especially after S2E7 when he says that he “loves words”.
I can't wait to see what you have to say about Stella and Andrealphus' sibling relationship
I’m the eldest brother to my 5 siblings. When my parents were getting s divorce, I was an adult already so it didn’t bother me much. However I could see it was REALLY effecting my younger siblings. So I tried to step up and let them know just because mom and dad aren’t together anymore doesn’t mean we’re not s family.
I feel so bad for Octavia, I just want to be there for her too. She reminds me of my little sisters.
I love these videos, recently (yesterday infact) i started therapy for myself and some of the explanations you give have made it and will make it easier to explain my feelings and experiences, so thank you for these informal and entertaining videos
that is so wonderful to hear, i wish you the best in therapy and healing
Awh this is so cute! 🥹 good for you on starting therapy!
Hey comrade. I also started therapy recently (early March). Therapy is basically:
"I'm going for one thing, this shouldn't be a problem."
*Opens 20+ years of trauma and unhealed wounds*
"..Well now-"
It gets easier, but it certainly is a humbling (and helpful) experience.
Yayyyy Octavia video!! She's my favorite character, she's so underrated 💜
I related a lot to Octavia when the episode came out, since it was a period in which my parents would fight really badly... I wish they would be wise enough to bring they're fights elsewhere, but sadly that wasn't the case... It also struck me the part where you said that people shouldn't be therapists to their parents because well...guilty! By the way, I love that there's a character I can relate too, cause they're not so common as someone would think. I hope we can have more display of healthy parenting in the future too...
8:00 I'd tag my parents if I could but I wanna move on from them. I grew up with that mess
10:48 ....that is litteraly what my mom is doing. Four years ago (when I was like, 11) my parents divorced and my dad went into a different country. My parents always had arguments with each other but leading up to the divorce it got REALLY bad. Like, they coulden't be in the same room with each otehr without an argument breaking out between them. I could never understand what they were saying because they were speaking farsi (my family is iranian) and I barely know the language since I was born and grew up in Canada, and after the divorce it always felt like my mom was trying to get me to hate dad more...?
And it made me think I should hate him more but for some reason I don't...? And she says that he has to support me and my older sister equally as much as she is. She tells me to ask my dad for money because he should provide for me. She complains about him running away to different country leaving her to do all the work raising us. I always just feel...uncomfortable during those conversations. Like I feel like I should hate him more but I don't.
we all do the best we can with the tools we are taught. I hope things are better now
a tip for people about the sleeping thing in 4:00 you know that confort movie that you have watched a million times, so much that you know all the lines of the movie? put it to play everynight before you go to bed, it is something you love, but not something you realy need to pay attention because you aready know how it is going to end.
@10:48 "You both chose each other" - a thing to keep in mind in this particular household, though, is that *they didn't.* Stolas was arranged to marry Stella when they were children. Not even adolescents - full-up *children.* And his first look at her was a picture of her strangling a puppy.
Stolas doesn't always get parenting right, not by a long shot. But although he never had to worry about the very basics, which I will grant is an *unbelievably strong* foundation, in other respects he was dealt a really, *really* bad hand and had to make the best of it.
The advice of arguing away from the home just reminds me of the Simpsons when Marge does this with Homer. But inside the house we see the kids staring at them sadly, and Bart says, "They're fighting in the car again."
6:15 ''sleeping is a skill'' well looks like i have skill issue then
Good news is you can work on it : ). Hehe
i got more important stuff like videoga-
What I like about Stolas being a parent is, that he clearly want's to do better, but he is also not very good at it, thanks to how he was raised.
The most tragic figure in all of that is Octavia though. I wished she would have found some friends to hang out with, but we also don't know much about her. Loo Loo Land was all over the place in terms of character focus.
And Seeing Starts mostly turned her into a macguffin for the others to chase after.
We don't know much about Stellas and Octavias relationship either. Unfortunately with how one note evil Stella seems to be, I doubt we'll ever get something meaningful from her side.
You know what the saddest part about all this is? I'm watching this and not my mom. Stolas is a better father than mom ever was because at least he tries. He doesn't just continue the cycle of 'doing just enough to get my kid through life'. Lol, I wish she would carry me, but we are the same size 😆
Cool costume
thanks i enjoyed making the stars on the shirt
Its rather impressive how you're able to put together all of those costumes for the characters you cover in such a short span of time! 👌
Is interesting that Blitz and Stolas have like an opposite situation with their daughters. Blitz even with all his personal issues and his need to stay emotionally distant from everyone balances his work and personal life with his rol as a caretaker with her, for example with her doctor appointment and pays more attention to her. Loona would benefit of Blitz being more tender like Stolas is, because of how insecure she feels, but Octavia would benefit of Stolas being more like Blitz in the sense of taking the space and time for her and to really listen to her and what she needs. For example, here he took time to take her to a theme park but he didn’t listened to her and what she wanted. He would show better how much he loves and cares for her by listening to her more and not only when she feels bad.
My whole life as far back as I can remember when I would lay down and go to sleep. I would start a story in my head. Usually I'm the main character in the story. Often an adventure. My dreams would turn into the story. I have no issues falling asleep. And I sleep very hard. When I'm sleeping I usually only sleep about 6 hours a night. But I don't wake up feeling drowsy. And anybody who's ever seen me passed out. Says that they're jealous of the way I sleep so I don't know if I'm holding some magical key. But I suggest you start being the main character in your stories. The ones you tell yourself in your head. Before you go to sleep.
I've been doing much the same since I was a kid. Granted the discovery of this is in part due to the fact I've often struggled to fall asleep. Sadly if my father heard me tossing and turning too much he'd yell at me from his room. So if my mind was too active and I couldn't fall asleep I'd try and lay still and tell myself a story. It didn't always work and some nights I wouldn't sleep at all, but it was more calming than the yelling.
@Sarcastic_Sophist I'm sorry your parents didn't handle that well. I think yelling is the last thing that will help someone sleep. But I too find the storys very calming.
Sometimes I almost don't want to go to sleep cause I'm kind of enjoying my own adventure.
I would love for you to an analysis of Blitzø’s self hate and resentment! Perhaps accompanied by advice on how to healthily cope with past mistakes and work on self redemption?
Oct is just cute as a button!
Stolas did the best he could with what he had. Like she still cares but she is all angsty but still wanted to see the stars with her dad. Need more Oct and Loona stuff. Have some step sister adventure episode. They could compare being raised by either Stolas and Blitz more
Another interesting examination, I think that the sound psychological reasoning of a character is a sign of good writing in a show, makes it more believable.
I also like how he doesn’t start berating Stella and say “this is why what when.” He doesn’t try to put Via against her mother
You are absolutely going to have a field day with the latest episode.
Thank you for doing a video on Octavia! I'm currently a student studying film and animation and your videos help me better understand character development and psychology! Your videos are very helpful in my field and I appreciate it
4:55 i dunno why but i can’t sleep without hearing something. even when i don’t try to sleep and i hear nothing i just can’t handle it
Never been this early before! I love your Helluva videos also!
Thank You! Not gonna go into detail, but I really needed this. Relative of mine was in a bad place for a while. They've been good for about a year now but there's still pain from then. I feel relieved to know I can feel that and it's not that I'm awful ❤
hey georgia, i think it’d be really fun for you to explore cowboy bebop (not the live action one lol) ! the themes and relationships in the main cast are super interesting and it has super great episodic storytelling so if u end up doing it it’d be pretty cool
Yes, that’s a great suggestion. Not too long of a watch, but very emotionally deep characters :)
One thing I did always appreciate about this episode was that Stolas didn’t try to pretend to Octavia that things were okay at home. “I’m sorry, I don’t have the words” is probably the only way he could have given her any assurance of anything (in this case, that he’s aware that he screwed up and isn’t trying to dismiss her concerns), because I really don’t think there _is_ a right way to tell your child whom you deeply love that, through no fault of her own, she’s the product of a loveless marriage and only exists because you and your arranged spouse had no say in the matter.
You catch fragments of “I haven’t been happy” and “We weren’t in love” before he stops and realizes none of that will make her feel better because those explanations make it about himself. But Via needs him to be there for _her._ Dumping his problems onto her, like you said, isn’t fair to her.
And tangent: I’m glad you withhold judgment on Stella for now given we haven’t actually seen her and Octavia interact.
I think you're right about us unintentionally acting like our parents.
I just got done with work, and I worked with a patient at a rehab hospital who was really confused, and I thought the best strategy to get him to help me clean him up was being aggressive. Listening to you talk about Stolas and his father made me think I was like my mom, who was very verbally aggressive to the point of threatening us and insulting us. I was trying to get him to focus and understand that I needed him to cooperate with me even if he probably couldn't understand what was going on.
I feel bad for doing that. But, I guess it makes sense that we would internally learn how things are when you live in an abusive environment.
Thank you for this video and everything you do. ❤
For the faling asleep in you arms thing i have really bad separation anxiety so when i was young i had to fall asleep in my mums arms becase even if she put me down when i was ewake i would start crying so badly i would struggle to breeth.
One thing I loved was when they did a bunch of instagrams and stuff for the characters and we got to see some like Stolas' account or Octavia's and we got to see them hanging out and doing various things like their trip to that store she likes or having a little sleepover or the like. It was really cute.
It's really good how he doesn't dump his trauma onto her, though with how the series is going it might be something better in the future for her to know that he is going through his own issues too and needs her support as much as she needs his on some occasions.
Thank you for continuing to make these!
Can't wait to get out of work so I can watch this :)
Another great video!! I love your analysis cause we did not only learn more about the characters, but you always try to help us how to be better if we found ourself in the same situations!
And since you cover the loo loo land scene of Stolas and Octavia, that is a huge reference to the goofy movie and the relationship between Goofy and Max, it would be cool if you'll do a video about them too. I love that film and their relationship and I can see the parallelism between Stolas and Octavia, it would be interessant have your take on it!
Man i wish you were my Therapist your soooo good with theses videos from helluva boss and i am also going with some life struggles right now and keep it up love your videos !
😮🎉 your upooads always make my day!
I'm so glad!
@@GeorgiaDow 😊 thank you!
New video and another amazing new take on these characters and their issues!!! I really love hearing how we can deal with these things in a more healthy way. I hope i can use what I've learned to raise children who are strong emotionally and happy!
Your child is not your therapist.
Someone tell my mother-in-law that, please.
its such an intense pet peeve of mine when I discribe simply what a person did (no additives) like Octavia did here and a person answeres something along the lines of: "so youre saying Im a monster?"
No I didnt, I discribed your behaviour to you like a cctv camera, but Im glad that we agree on it being bad behaviour. The whole "monster" thing is your assesment, dont put that on me.
"you weren't there" it's a really common fear.
My nightmares - my mom is chasing me in a demonic form 😅
oh goodness that is terrifying
My parents were deeply wounded people. I still have dreams like that sometimes.
18:44 darn good point. Some long time ago, i used to fear people who put on alot of makeup, or facepaint specifically. Over it by now, but i get the feeling lol.
Verosika jumped up on my character i like more.
Imagine being a succubus, and actually saying, genuinely, I love you. Only for them to steal your credit card and flee three states over and buying horseback riding lessons.
Like, damn blitz, you didn’t just break her heart, you ripped it out and stomped on it then threw it down the sewer and called it names and then laughed.
"...For whatever life has damned you for"
Be it an ad segue, amen to that.
I wish my dad is kinda like Stolas. My dad is not an emotional person, so talking about serious things that require emotions or just a comforting hug is not something he does at all, leaving me very hungry for comfort and affection. And im 39 years old.
Great video!!! A related note to love language and unrelated note to parenting: me and the majority of my close friendship group are autistic so for all of us our love language is physical affection like hugs and cuddles. We've grown so close it's almost like we're a family, a family of autistic, mentally ill people but a family none the less!!!
I was waiting for this episode but then had to wait until i was in the right head space to actually watch it.
I need your video about new episode. Blitzo, Stolas and Verosika needed to be understood
YES😢
I've been loving your videos on HH/HB thanks for all the entertainment :)
Even through what anyone of them goes through they end up still coming together rather then just hiding what isn’t true
I love Stolas & Octivia's relationship is so cute, it lowkey reminds me of my dad & I.
It's worth noting in Stolas and Octavia's talk near the end of 'Loo Loo Land' that the he couldn't quite explain why things went so wrong between him and her mother. He begins to say he hasn't been happy and from the sounds of it, they never loved each other to begin with, but he just can't get the words out. It's even more sadder when we learn that Stolas was very much like Octavia when he was younger, with the implication being that his marriage to Stella completely sucked the life out of him.
It also makes Stolas' attempt to explain things hard to watch, given the reason he "didn't have the words" was because, despite Stella's awful treatment of him, he couldn't bring himself to tell Octavia the truth. Stolas did everything he could to hide the worst aspects of their marriage from their daughter and he didn't want to shatter the illusion that they were once happy.
Octavia telling him the song and band name isn't actually 'vitriol', it just seems that way. When she's walking in the hallway you can hear the song lyrics and she's literally being honest
Thanks for explaining that jolt when I’m just about to finally fall asleep. It literally feels like falling for a second and I guess my brain decides that’s not okay lol.
5:20 I am somewhat insomniac so a few years back I started listening to videoessays and comentaries on media a like (or ocasionally hate, aka the 2010 avatar live-action remake) it really helped me. Before it took me like 30-40 minutes of just staying in bed but now it takes around 15 sometimes even less. I do still have insomniac episodes from time to time where it takes me between 45 min and 2 hours. I can fall asleep without them to but if I'm not insanely tired it takes more, idk exaclty how much, I'm the last one who goes to sleep usually. Is there a way to train my brain to fall asleep faster?
i feel so called out by this episode. like i was sleeping with my mother till ėth grade ish and i have a diagnosed anxiety disorder with a really high base line anxiety...
As a child with divorced parents, I hate how many parents always try to make me choose one over the other. They always say things like, If you really loved me you would hate your other parent, you wouldn't want to spend time with them. Choice me over them. And then they will always talk bad about the other parent in front of me and try to convince me that I should not like them. But I mostly try to ignore it or try to change the subject even if they have a point.