@Andrew Calhoun The 2003 could’ve been built in 2002 but is marked as a 2003 model. What he said in the video doesn’t make a difference, it is still a 2003 vs a 2004 and there is a difference between those model year catalytic converters.
@@joshua.johnson that’s awesome. Thank you. I think true dual will be the only route for my preferences I just thought it would expensive. Hope you love it
For those who are having an issue hearing the difference it's little touches here and there. Straight pipe is technically more messy idle and deeper tone. And the X pipe you can hear the wubs at idle you can hear left right left right. Unlike the straight pipe. X pipe also had more/better crackling/back pressure compared to the straight pipe. Cleaner vs deeper and yes there is a performance gain from X pipe.
I agree. These guys have pipes that are straight. Just not a real straight pipe set up. Straight pipe as it sounds is a pipe going straight from the engine without a cat a muffler or a resonator on the pipe. Trucks sound good. Just not a straight pipe set up.
@@nchs4592 straight pipe definition. Pipe goes from engine straight without restrictions to the rear. The pipe doesn't need to be straight. The pipe just needs to be free of CATS, MUFFLERS, and Resonators. I hope this is clear. I dislike people calling it straight pipe with all the goodies still attached. Personally. I like a resonator to change the sound. So i would never define my set up as straight piped. Please keep this in mind.
Love the comparison man! I bought and X-pipe and will be doing my true dual 4” tips before the passenger rear wheel! Planning on making a video for it! When I post it man would love the feed back!
It's called a cat back I prefer with cats because without cats it makes the notorious clapping sound which I hate and it burns your valves because of loss of back pressure
@@MJBclassics X-pipes and H-pipes have a smoother sound than true duals do because of the exhaust scavenging. True duals have two pipes that don't connect at all, which gives it a raspy sound because there's no exhaust scavenging. Old muscle cars had true duals, which helped give them their unique sound.
I'm definitely going with an x pipe on my 04 Sierra, I live in Maine and straight pipes and most glass packs are illegal, as of right now I got stock single pipe with a 28" glass pack with 2 1/2" inlet and outlet. I'd like to go with 2 of the same glass packs with an x pipe to the rear with dual tips out the same side only
White one sounds better idling and going back down. The goldy is louder with more popping, also sounds better revving up. I like mine the way going down.
I honestly think the no x pipe sounds better. I’m getting mine done right now and am at a loss if I should go against their recommendation of doing the x pipe. I wish I could look at a dyno sheet on the same truck with and without the x.
Generally wont change much in the end, mostly just shifts the power curve. If youve got a modded engine and youre trying to win races, an X or H will be "faster," but, not by a ton. If you have a stock engine or just some minor bolt-ons, the different will be so small you wont notice it and anyone who does is literally just imagining things.
@Hooper_c4 he says in one his other videos it's a true 5.3. He just put the Vortec Max emblem on there because with all the upgrades it puts out as much as a Vortec Max. Said he catches alotta slack over it but it's just an emblem. Truck still looks/sounds/runs awesome.
I was once young... so I can appreciate you boys wanting loud exhaust. But when I grew up I learned loud exhaust draws a lot of unnecessary attention. So I greatly prefer a stock quiet exhaust so I don't have every damn cop in town looking at me everywhere I go.
3 years later an now anyone who use to love how it sound. Im so happy to annouce that you have caused the police to hate every chevy truck with any mods done to it atleast in SC for a fact🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
Excellent comparison guys I have a 02 Silverado with a 6.0 with true duals no x pipe with the cats however I have long tube headers I wonder if my truck sounds different than your truck and friends truck because I have long tube headers on my truck
I got 2 audio setups, one with straight pipes into glass packs and then one right after the x pipe was put in. I noticed a little bit of torque but it could also be just in my head. In my sound between the two I notice my glasspack sound was a little more mellow and it seemed to hold the RPMs just a little bit better.
Well then he should drive with it covered as well. Top secret operation. Its not like he is doing anything negative to warrant people to wanting to "find him".
I have a 03 silverado with the 4.8 in it .got the cats hollowed out y pipe and a flowmaster dumping under the bed.sounds meaner than both of those trucks
I feel like the only better comparison would be for both to be 5in with one having the x-pipe, one with an H-pipe, and one without either. Thats just my idea.
Shiny Knife i also live in nc best thing to do is ask around and see where they get theres done or hell if u cant find anybody local get dummy mufflers
I used to live in Virginia but they still have inspection , but here in sc they dont and you can run no muff and no cats. Mines running straight true duals with shorty headers
They don’t test emissions here either but you have it on the vehicle. Like they don’t do a sniff test or anything. But if it don’t have cats they won’t pass you. I went thru that with my Foxbody.. I just put some on it. To much of a hassle to get it inspected. I wish I could ditch them on my Sierra. But not going thru that again
Do any of the two trucks have mufflers ? Does either one or both have a debilitating "Drone" sound in the trucks cab ? Personally l prefer dual exhaust, most likely because l'm old school ' and it's hard to erase old habits. Thankyou for your video and hope you both are very well 😎👍
On mine I went to o riley's n bought a 2 1/2 by 24 in and my buddy cut off my muffler n welded the new pipe on ..only 8 dollar's..if you know a welder it will save you money
Good material, helped me a lot. Currently i'm considering True dual vs X-Pipe in my Jeep WK Hemi. From the acoustic point, true dual sounds much nicer. Thanks Guys.
seriously the internet doesn’t know what a straight pipe is. at least this isn’t as bad as the last straight pipe video I watched, that guy was calling a muffler delete a straight pipe lol
Saw both your exhaust videos and the x pipe sounds awesome but don't think you mention what X pipe (brand name) it is you have. By any chance would you know of the name by now or what X pipe brand to go with? Cuz hoping to do the x pipe on my Avalanche
Mine before x pipe was loud then after x pipe only about 1/2 as loud but now it has a deeper tone sounds really good but wish it was louder. May change mufflers or remove them all together.
How are you burning with stock gear? I can't even burn a 32.8 stock gear 3:73. Regearing to 4:56 soon when i get 37s most likely. But also you may have a tune i haven't tuned mine yet since im getting gears and all soon.
DSE I've got bald 31's on my 2001 z71 with 3:73's. It's fun to sling around. Getting your tires a little wet really helps cause I only have 275hp from factory
yeah but he's far from a 31" stock tire and slick. I have 302hp on the dyno stock. im regearing, volant cold air, long tube headers, etc. I was expected to have around 390hp with everything and a tune.
Not bad, X pipe sounds a bit smoother. I’m not a fan of raspy popping exhaust. To me just sounds like it has no HP. I like loud and smooth, like the engine has some HP and the amount of exhaust air can fill and pressurize the exhaust system.
If you get rid of ur cats how do you stop the truck from throwing codes and freaking out do you have to get a tune or can you buy something to trick the 02 sensors
Call me a hater... but un-leveled tow mirrors on 1500's are a pet peeve
best around tow mirrors on half tons piss me off 😂
Who gives a shit about the mirrors....those wheels on the tan truck look like a Mexican ride.
@@kykrazy6050 why TF do these dudes even have tow mirrors
seth Gianni Tow mirrors period on a 1500 are aids
@@losttiming5873 IKR....
2003 and 2004 models had different catalytic converters, which actually affects sound as well.
@Andrew Calhoun The 2003 could’ve been built in 2002 but is marked as a 2003 model. What he said in the video doesn’t make a difference, it is still a 2003 vs a 2004 and there is a difference between those model year catalytic converters.
I love the way the X-pipe sounds. It is deeper and doesn’t clap as much. It’s a clean harmony, and it’s definitely music to my ears!
The hat and chain......I'm laughing my ass off. He's serious too, thinks it looks good. Hahahahahaaaa!
Weak ass chain...spent to much on his exhaust
Y’all need to level your tow mirrors!
Connor Linnenbrink took the words right out of my mouth
This shit killed me 😂😂😂😂
Was about to say that then saw the comment 😂
Connor Linnenbrink how do u do that
1987jeepyj you just throw a washer or two in each one😂
I will say I am impressed with xpipe. Sounds really good. In all fairness, the duals are classic.
Got true duals at Henry’s up in Raleigh on my f150. Could not be happier I love it!
Cost approx?
@@crosbylewis3660 true duals with 5 inch tips runs about 375
@@crosbylewis3660 I’m going there literally tomorrow to get true duals on my new truck: 2007 Chevy Silverado 5.3
@@crosbylewis3660 I’m getting true duals with 5 inch rolled edge tips neatly tucked. But yeah, about $375
@@joshua.johnson that’s awesome. Thank you. I think true dual will be the only route for my preferences I just thought it would expensive. Hope you love it
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X-pipe will give you better top end HP but a H-pipe sounds better IMO. To each their own. Nice to see this side by side comparison. 👍👍
they sound pretty similar, i really didn't hear a difference honestly
Fax
It takes a certain ear for it.
For those who are having an issue hearing the difference it's little touches here and there. Straight pipe is technically more messy idle and deeper tone. And the X pipe you can hear the wubs at idle you can hear left right left right. Unlike the straight pipe. X pipe also had more/better crackling/back pressure compared to the straight pipe. Cleaner vs deeper and yes there is a performance gain from X pipe.
henry’s muffler shop has done amazing work for every vehicle i’ve owned.
Next time, download a sound spectrum / db analyzer and see what number it gives you. I think that would have been a good hard comparison
Get rid of the catalytic converters and install glass packs with long tail pipes will give you the CACKLE your looking for.....
The true dual sounds louder but the X is deeper!
With catalytic converters its not a straight pipe
I agree. These guys have pipes that are straight. Just not a real straight pipe set up. Straight pipe as it sounds is a pipe going straight from the engine without a cat a muffler or a resonator on the pipe. Trucks sound good. Just not a straight pipe set up.
100% true ive got a 5.7 3/4 ton with straights sounds way better than both of them trucks
called a cutback system "true dual cutback with x pipe no muffler to 4x18" tips" or "true dual cutback with no muffler and 5" tips"
@@nchs4592 straight pipe definition. Pipe goes from engine straight without restrictions to the rear. The pipe doesn't need to be straight. The pipe just needs to be free of CATS, MUFFLERS, and Resonators. I hope this is clear. I dislike people calling it straight pipe with all the goodies still attached. Personally. I like a resonator to change the sound. So i would never define my set up as straight piped. Please keep this in mind.
EngineBacon catbacks is what they’re called
Love the comparison man! I bought and X-pipe and will be doing my true dual 4” tips before the passenger rear wheel! Planning on making a video for it! When I post it man would love the feed back!
Henry’s muffler shop is the best around they did my truck 03 Silverado straight piped with 5 inch rolled edge tips
Dang right, they know what they're doing!
Henry’s Straight piped my f150 with 6 inch rolled tips and I haven’t had a problem yet
That’s who done my exhaust, Henry’s is the way to go
Ayeeeee Shout out to Henry’s Muffler Shop
saw cats on them both...theyre not straight piped
john russo if you get rid of ur cats it throws a code and the truck will run like crap
BaBa Yaga It’ll run perfectly fine if you get a tune after removing the cats.
It's called a cat back I prefer with cats because without cats it makes the notorious clapping sound which I hate and it burns your valves because of loss of back pressure
Good video. The I'm my thing missing was the difference in exhaust sound while driving.
I think x pipe makes it sound less raspy and smother plus helps with exhaust scavenging.
@@MJBclassics X-pipes and H-pipes have a smoother sound than true duals do because of the exhaust scavenging. True duals have two pipes that don't connect at all, which gives it a raspy sound because there's no exhaust scavenging. Old muscle cars had true duals, which helped give them their unique sound.
Спасибо!
The only reason his sounds deeper is because of the bigger tips they give it the deep growl
I’m curious about the H-pipe and X-pipe comparison just like this video
H pipes sound like true duals
Great video and just what i was looking for! Great job
First truck sounded a little better but both sounded amazing
Great comparison test.
Can you guys do a video with interior and drive bys?
Good explanation & great to see the Amish on RUclips.
I'm definitely going with an x pipe on my 04 Sierra, I live in Maine and straight pipes and most glass packs are illegal, as of right now I got stock single pipe with a 28" glass pack with 2 1/2" inlet and outlet. I'd like to go with 2 of the same glass packs with an x pipe to the rear with dual tips out the same side only
Could y’all do some driving videos of the exhaust ?
That's what was missing. The difference in sound when driving.
That pewter colored chevy sounds wayyyy better.
Hell yeah Henry's muffler shop
The pewter metallic truck is louder , when you reved it up my phone sent a notification to turn down volume 🤣
The X is killer dude I love it. I can’t decide on that (same as yours) for my GTO or to put like 2 glasspacks at the end
True duel was sick man! But both at sweet.
Sounds good. I'm still messing around with exhaust on my 5.3 avalanche. The cackling bugs the shit out of me.
I have a 2002 Chevy avalanche, and went with true duals with 4 inch tips, what setup did you go with?
I would have to say they sound the same on the high end but the x pipe sounds deeper on the lower end
I almost have the same exhaust except no cats and no crossover just mufflers I love it sounds great
Do you have a video of how that sounds. I'm getting a 6.0 swap and want to run dual carven r no cats or resonator
White one sounds better idling and going back down. The goldy is louder with more popping, also sounds better revving up. I like mine the way going down.
I honestly think the no x pipe sounds better. I’m getting mine done right now and am at a loss if I should go against their recommendation of doing the x pipe. I wish I could look at a dyno sheet on the same truck with and without the x.
Generally wont change much in the end, mostly just shifts the power curve. If youve got a modded engine and youre trying to win races, an X or H will be "faster," but, not by a ton. If you have a stock engine or just some minor bolt-ons, the different will be so small you wont notice it and anyone who does is literally just imagining things.
Dyno difference in hp will be the equivalent to a 1995 push mower maybe 0.5 hp difference
Vortec max emblem on a 5.3 🤔
Vortec max is a 6.0 package he says there both 5.3.
@@anthonypagano2234 correct
@@anthonypagano2234 Exactly, so either he put those badges or he's lying.
@Hooper_c4 he says in one his other videos it's a true 5.3. He just put the Vortec Max emblem on there because with all the upgrades it puts out as much as a Vortec Max. Said he catches alotta slack over it but it's just an emblem. Truck still looks/sounds/runs awesome.
I live in Roanoke and perfection muffler does all my stuff. Wont let any other muffler shop touch my car
While everyone is talking about cats, exhaust, and pipes I’m running straight off the headers in my 95 burban.
Long live the suburban!
Nice comparison. Thanks guys.
I was once young... so I can appreciate you boys wanting loud exhaust. But when I grew up I learned loud exhaust draws a lot of unnecessary attention. So I greatly prefer a stock quiet exhaust so I don't have every damn cop in town looking at me everywhere I go.
Paul looks like daddys money 😂😂😂😂
Na not daddy's money just his house!!! Lol!
😂😂🤣🤣
Both of these are cat backs not straight pipes. But they do sound really good!
The x pipe setup sounds much better!
I wonder how they both would sound with the same setup and no cats.
would have been nice to hear the burnout at the end???
3 years later an now anyone who use to love how it sound. Im so happy to annouce that you have caused the police to hate every chevy truck with any mods done to it atleast in SC for a fact🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
I think you’re referring to squatted trucks bud?
Did you notice any power difference when you added the x pipe?
They equivalently sounds good
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Excellent comparison guys I have a 02 Silverado with a 6.0 with true duals no x pipe with the cats however I have long tube headers I wonder if my truck sounds different than your truck and friends truck because I have long tube headers on my truck
The 2 truck sonds Nice
Yours sounds way better but the fact that yours is tuned an it sounds more pops
I got 2 audio setups, one with straight pipes into glass packs and then one right after the x pipe was put in. I noticed a little bit of torque but it could also be just in my head. In my sound between the two I notice my glasspack sound was a little more mellow and it seemed to hold the RPMs just a little bit better.
White truck sounds better
Huge difference. Guess you have to overlook the 5.3 whine lol.
“Back Pressure”. Lol. What a joke
people kill me when they talk about back pressure. its about as real as area 51
Funny because back pressure decreases engine performance
@@JasonReed-w4pwell that’s obvious lol.
Does that makes your truck waste more gas? That my dought
Well, I'm settled, I'm doing a straight pipe with x-pipe on my car, but for the tips, I'm probably going have them come out as a y on each side
There was 2 differences bc of tip size
I can't find the exhaust company that you kept mentioning toward the start of the video, "Trudles".
True dual bruh.
Not a company
You better not go to the shop asking for that
Do you know the decibels of them both or no?
Dude cover the lisence plate
What laws did I break producing the video that I should cover my plate?
bowtieguy97 I think he just wants you to protect your location and identity is all. Sweet trucks. Both sound awesome
Dude, learn how to spell license.
Well then he should drive with it covered as well. Top secret operation. Its not like he is doing anything negative to warrant people to wanting to "find him".
I have a 03 silverado with the 4.8 in it .got the cats hollowed out y pipe and a flowmaster dumping under the bed.sounds meaner than both of those trucks
Nice
So yours is basically cat back with cross pipe
Cant tell much of a difference but from my experience the xpipe takes out alot of the rasp and adds a clean mellow sound
blown5.3 x pipes have rasp also. Hpipe for the win in the sound category, no rasp, Deep tone. Only 1-2hp less than xpipe. Proven fact!!
I feel like the only better comparison would be for both to be 5in with one having the x-pipe, one with an H-pipe, and one without either. Thats just my idea.
I live in NC.. how are you getting them inspected without mufflers? They won’t do it in the town I live in. The X-Pipe sounds better
Shiny Knife i also live in nc best thing to do is ask around and see where they get theres done or hell if u cant find anybody local get dummy mufflers
I used to live in Virginia but they still have inspection , but here in sc they dont and you can run no muff and no cats. Mines running straight true duals with shorty headers
My county in NC has no Emmison test
They don’t test emissions here either but you have it on the vehicle.
Like they don’t do a sniff test or anything. But if it don’t have cats they won’t pass you. I went thru that with my Foxbody.. I just put some on it. To much of a hassle to get it inspected. I wish I could ditch them on my Sierra. But not going thru that again
Find a little shop that dont really care I've found a few in my area that dont really care about the mufflers
Do any of the two trucks have mufflers ?
Does either one or both have a debilitating "Drone" sound in the trucks cab ? Personally l prefer dual exhaust, most likely because
l'm old school ' and it's hard to erase old habits. Thankyou for your video and hope you both are very well 😎👍
He showed the exhaust
Great comparison!
How do you go apon emissions with having no cat and muffler?
How much did they charge you for the exhaust system
On mine I went to o riley's n bought a 2 1/2 by 24 in and my buddy cut off my muffler n welded the new pipe on ..only 8 dollar's..if you know a welder it will save you money
FYI! Exhaust tips shape and size make a difference.
Good material, helped me a lot. Currently i'm considering True dual vs X-Pipe in my Jeep WK Hemi.
From the acoustic point, true dual sounds much nicer.
Thanks Guys.
You know this is a quality video based on junkyard teeth and receding hairlines. WE DRIVE TRUKZ!!! BRAWNDO HAS ELECTROLYTES!
How much did you pay live close to there?
I have no cats with x pipe 🔥🔥🔥
We use E-Z Muffler in RockyMount
seriously the internet doesn’t know what a straight pipe is. at least this isn’t as bad as the last straight pipe video I watched, that guy was calling a muffler delete a straight pipe lol
Hey thanks bro great video going with the X Pipe ✊🏻
Saw both your exhaust videos and the x pipe sounds awesome but don't think you mention what X pipe (brand name) it is you have. By any chance would you know of the name by now or what X pipe brand to go with? Cuz hoping to do the x pipe on my Avalanche
The white truck without xpipe sounds waaaaay better and cleaner
Mine before x pipe was loud then after x pipe only about 1/2 as loud but now it has a deeper tone sounds really good but wish it was louder. May change mufflers or remove them all together.
Is this street legal setup in Virginia? Just curious. Interested in installing same setup to my truck.
Altering the exhaust in any way is illegal in VA, but it WILL pass inspection
Roger that. Thanks for the info.
I wonder how the pewter one would sound with long tubes and no cats
I think the white truck was deeper n didn't pop as much
Basically what I did with mine..any suggestions on turbos..mines a 1999 Chevy Silverado 1500
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Sounds more smooth with x pipe but sounds deeper without x pipe👍💯 both sound good😀
How are you burning with stock gear? I can't even burn a 32.8 stock gear 3:73. Regearing to 4:56 soon when i get 37s most likely. But also you may have a tune i haven't tuned mine yet since im getting gears and all soon.
DSE I've got bald 31's on my 2001 z71 with 3:73's. It's fun to sling around. Getting your tires a little wet really helps cause I only have 275hp from factory
yeah but he's far from a 31" stock tire and slick. I have 302hp on the dyno stock. im regearing, volant cold air, long tube headers, etc. I was expected to have around 390hp with everything and a tune.
Not bad, X pipe sounds a bit smoother. I’m not a fan of raspy popping exhaust. To me just sounds like it has no HP. I like loud and smooth, like the engine has some HP and the amount of exhaust air can fill and pressurize the exhaust system.
You never mentioned the cost of the h x pipe
Max Julien $20 bucks get it at summit racing
Late to the party but do you get any drone sound?
If you get rid of ur cats how do you stop the truck from throwing codes and freaking out do you have to get a tune or can you buy something to trick the 02 sensors