@@Darkness-ie2yl I believe catering to the masses and having horrible wrestling personalities is a byproduct of going PG. Stone Cold, Kane, Golberg ect, when their music came on and they walked down the ramp - it was truly terrifying because they legitimately owned their character. Nothing against Cody Rhodes or anyone else, but these dudes care more about looking in the mirror before going out for a match
Wrestling was best from late 80’s to early 2000’s. 15-20 years. Best time Era. I have a hard time watching it these days. Long live guys like Stone Cold and Goldberg!
@kriegerliebhaber he's got to be on TRT( testosterone replacement therapy) look how jacked he still is. 50+ year olds just don't look like that without some help
Over produced, too glossy, too scripted, goofy camera work, doesn't resemble a sport, cardboard cutout wrestlers that haven't honed their character, bad announcing, too long, no attempt to keep kayfabe, wrestlers who tweet, no mystique, no roided up monsters, no spontaneity, no psychology, matches resemble a gymnastic routine, no grit, and geared towards kids. Did I miss anything?
@WhatsHappening783402 lashley has had that body since his military days. I truly doubt thats roids. I think he's earned it and just always had the discipline to maintain it.
WWE could reach the same hype like the late 90's by having more reckless talent. Too many play it safe which deflates replay views, but understandable I guess lol
It was peaked with the Attitude Era! Stone Cold, The Hart Foundation, Mankind, Undertaker, Goldberg, Kevin Nash, D-Generation X, Chyna, Kane, Sting, The Steiner Bros, and the List goes on. I remember it was fun to watch, even the smaller names like Steve Blackman, Dan the Beast Severn, etc. fun to watch.
@AAAnderson055 just like we all knew Roman would turn on the shield but WWE saw our thoughts and then they swerved us and turned Rollins instead Triple H himself.even stated long after Rollins turned that they considered Roman but went with Rollins. the dirt sheets threw to spoiler to that break up and WWE swerved everyone.
Something that I noticed as the years went on was how Social media made it to where no one has character names anymore, not in the traditional sense at least. When I watched wrestling it was Kane, Rock, Stone Cold, Undertaker, Mankind, Big Boss Man, Big Show. Now because of things like twitter handles, and Instagram they just have normal names. Steve Johnson vs Brad Wilbert! Whooooooo!!! I dont actually know if these people exist, but I think I made my point.
That was such an epic time in wrestling. I remember kids wearing wrestling shirts to school & arguing over who was better. There was no political correctness back then. Wrestling was edgy, offensive, & cool. I miss those days.
"There was no political correctness back then." Lol, yes there was. Political correctness evolved into its modern meaning specifically in the 90s, for fuck's sake, and it existed as a concept even before that. It was already an issue. You just didn't notice it because you were either a kid or a stupid, out-of-touch younger adult at the time. Either way, it's no excuse to keep repeating this uneducated bullshit. It's most likely not "political correctness" that you're actually railing against. That's just a catch-all term you've heard other retards throw around.
@@saketpandeysp33 Still some good stuff in 2005 and 2006. 2007 started to go downhill, then I pretty much stopped watching until early 2013 (when Wyatt Family and the Shield were first coming in).
@@frieza65 OK, there was political Correctness... But WWF didn't give a fuck, cos they cared more about putting on the best show possible, getting those reactions from the audience, and kicking WCW's ass.
Yeah, really the thing is the scripting. Back in the Austin-era they didn’t script the shows word for word. They had Ideas and let the wrestlers be wrestlers. Know it’s all scripted and they’re trying to turn wrestlers into actors and they aren’t. They’re wrestlers.
I disagree, back then wrestlers wrote their own promos and were allowed created freedom to be themselves, they can’t do that in today’s programming and it kills them tbh
Richard Smolock Well this is the millennial generation filled with millennial wrestlers. They’re all for having a good time, all the time. They don’t take anything seriously.
@@horizontoday7874 Actually a lot of us millennials grew up watching in the Attitude Era, so we know what good wrestling is. WWE just has poor writing, poor performance, and too many rating-related restrictions now to be as good as it was.
@@mikhailmikhail8740 late 90s - early 00s > 80s wrestling imo, especially in story telling and more mature content, not gonna lie 80s were fun and had tons of legends
@@NostalgicMem0ries we can agree to disagree. The problem is our nostalgic brain doesn't realize the attitude era/monday night wars was only a couple years, while the 80s-91 boom lasted nearly a decade, and the most watched wrestling show ever was the Saturday Night Main event during Wrestlemania 3. And watching wrestling for "storytelling" is like going to church on Sunday to drink wine. Wrestling is and always has been about (since it debut on television in the 50s) is wrestlers talking and then wrestling to see who wins. We try to over- intellectualize the product, when really it is super simple and basic.
@@mikhailmikhail8740 i agree to disagree. But i didnt meant that just attitude era was amazing, even tho wcw+wwf attitude era lasted from 1995 to 2001. ruthless agression era is also one of best, that lasted from 2001 to 2005~, so we have about 10 years too of best era. For me actually looks like 80s and early 90s are nostalgia that people talk about, i was teen not kid during late 90s, and i still believe that 80s was very childish era with tons of cartoonish gimmicks. Wcw aka nwa in 80s during four horseman, flair , dusty decade was amazing wrestling spectacle with great stories and amazing wrestling. Still it cant match best years of wrestling monday night wars and early ruthless aggression era, voted not just by fans but by most wrestlers to be best era ever.
Pika Deez Nuts Vince’s old ass. It use to be hard to get signed so when you debut it’s like a huge shock. Nowadays you’ve already seen the guy in nxt, there’s some dumb spoiler or rumor of his debut so there’s no surprise factor there. And then couple months later that nxt guy is midcarding barely for a 5 min match. Like Nakamura. Biggest freaking thing in Japan for years. Got a wm feud with styles , then after just down the hole with terrible booking
@Korvus So Wwe wasn't for kids back in days? When children use to watch we use to think undertaker was dead men his soul was in bottle with fat guy that use to come with him. Edge was pretty much cringy when he first came.
That's what the rulers of the world is forcing us into.. soullessness, everything looking and sounding the same, no original movies just remakes of things that WERE original and good, copying, manipulation and excuses. These crap changes are really ruining our lives
Yep. It's like turning a VHS movie into HD and you can see all the makeup. You can see how the spots are constructed now. The older guys were so smooth at making it more believable.
@@crippleh69 Not only ring psychology he just lacks "it" he doesn't have the gift of the gab for a start. He's not a douchey guy like HBK was or cannot sell a match like Piper did either. Speaking of HBK & Piper they'd routinely walk into the office and tell Vince "Yeah that's not a good idea" guys like Seth Rollins Or Drew McIntyre however will do exactly as they are told. That is the main reason nobody watches today, too many company yes men.
Nothing feels like it’s happening spontaneously anymore. The rise of social media and seeing what’s going on behind the scenes on shows like ‘backstage’ and ‘total divas’ also kills the mystique of the business. There are a multitude of other reasons as well. It’s just a mess.
Darrell Williams Of course we all knew it was a show, even as kids. But wrestling was a form of escapism and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting that feeling as an adult.
Robert Prince I just watched it for the first time in years a few weeks ago haha absolutely brilliant and hilarious 😂😂😂 it’s here on RUclips definitely watch it again! 👏🏽👏🏽
@@TheSands83 Yeah, the wrestlers are so small that it feels like Billy Gunn is same height as The Undertaker. I just watched the matches and not the promos, so I can't really tell if they are being woke.
NWA, MLW and even AEW > WWE. WWE today is largely missing authenticity IMO. Stone Cold, The Rock, Shawn Micheals, Bret Hart, ETC...were not so much acting as characters as they were acting as an amplified version of themselves. Today everything seems to be scripted, micro managed, and very tame, it makes the product boring. Also there isn't enough actual wrestling either.
Like Stone Cold said, they had to compete with WCW and even ECW to a certain extent. Especially when WCW nabbed the top early 90s guys so they had to rely on newer guys and everything they had to offer.
Agreed. I’m younger so I wasn’t alive for that era but I’ve seen some of it and I really hate that I wasn’t alive during that time. Everything now with WWE is too over produced and scripted. And the storytelling for the most part is wack, there’s no direction. NXT is their only product that has that. It’s the only watchable product on WWE. And they actually have wrestling unlike the main product where they do headlocks for 5 minutes lmao
Pedro Rios So Raw and SD is better than AEW ? STFU and don’t even mention NXT because one brand that they literally didn’t give shits about for years until AEW became a thing doesn’t make up for two extremely shitty brands in Raw and SD
Attitude era is the perfect example of how we take things for granted. My last ever WrestleMania was WM22, sadly after that I packed it in. Every now and then I might watch a video on RUclips that gets recommended but it's very rare. I loved the Rock and my older brother loved Stone Cold, our farewell WrestleMania was WM19, was worth missing school the next day for, memories.
The problem with the wwe is the following. First no intimidation, sorry kofi,roman,and ziggler are not intimidating at all. Second they talk to much. Third wheres all the outdoor fights,in the limo,pub,backstage or on the street. Four the smack talk c'mon. Five and a big one characters that stand out and demand your attention,undertaker, brett hart,stone cold,the rock and anybody that's not plain,doink,goldust,the hurricane anybody remember Irf. These are the things that the wwe is missing.
@AAAnderson055 not really. More like when it was 2 hours long, the programme was packed full of ideas/action but at 3 hours, they are especially struggling to fill time, hence more stiff promos, just to fill time
Today wrestling is for 10 year olds, it’s absolutely horrific to watch. The cut scenes are corny and horribly acted , when they speak on a mic it’s like watching someone speak for the first time infront of the public.
@@MauFerrer2000 It is catered to kids, though, because they want that merch money. Kids are the most susceptible and the parents want to please their kids so they spend on merch. That's what they did with Cena and why he had so many different colored shirts, wrist bands, and even towels, it became really cringe at the towel. They then try to apply that to everyone.
Nailed it. And don't get me started on the herky-jerky camera work during action scenes too. Zoom out...ZOOM IN, SHAKE CAMERA......zoom out....ZOOM IN.....Fucking awful.
I honestly just had the epiphany maybe a month ago that Wrestling in general really has ALWAYS been catered to children. The thing about today’s product is that it more obviously insults your intelligence as opposed to how it used to be when kayfabe existed. I watched wrestling from like 92-02 (4-14) no cognitively sound adult could ever emotionally invest in pro wrestling like a pre teen. Even in the back of the biggest adult mark’s mind,they know its a work whereas a child’s monetary and emotional investment in it cant ever be wavered. I would get PISSED if u told me it was predetermined as a kid.
@@Arteaga4K Not simply technology just the internet age and social media after which there was a much sudden exponential jump compared to before and less reliance on traditional media.
@@Arteaga4K he said it as in the product is too polished looking nowadays, back in the attitude era it really looked like it was a shithole in bumfuck nowhere where degenerates beat the shit out of each other every week, and it was glorious
Its probably been said many times but I personally kinda feel like the growing presence of the internet in the early 2000's and the rise of social media was a big blow to the product. Information was much harder to acquire during WWE's hayday which helped the WWE as people didn't already know what was going to happen before it did. This goes with what Stone Cold was saying about being spontaneous also. JR uses to have a column called the "Ross Report" on the WWE website that used to be my source for rumours and updates, it was perfect because it used to give you just enough info to keep you interested but not enough to bury the lead.
oh, its that hard for wwe to hide storyline information because of "social media"?? lmao, they cant just not post spoiler shit and picts make it part of the contract too and done deal??l lmao
It's the people in control, they make the decisions and take it where they want. And it seems they not even interested in good entertainment, they just wanna piss people off on a daily basis.
What are you talking about? What's more politically correct now... What makes political correctness wrong? Do you just enjoy talking this shit, do you even know what political correctness is?
@@reedOsama Overemphasis on women's wrestling, and the whole 'women's revolution', especially when most of the women's matches absolutely suck. The fact that it has become too safe, such that matches like hell in a cell and elimination chamber matches are kind of pointless. And the fact, due to political Correctness, many of the things that made the attitude era and ruthless aggression era great aren't allowed now. The Rock, Stone Cold, DX... These guys couldn't exist in this time. Of course, that's just to do with political Correctness. There are many other issues, such as the fact that finishers have become pointless. Now you need to do a finisher 6 damn times to win a match. Not to mention those matches (usually involving Brock) that are matches entirely comprising of finishing moves. The fact that matches like Hell in a Cell, as I've mentioned have lost all meaning. It's no longer a last resort to end a rivalry, instead it's done just because 'it's that time of your year'. But, to answer your question more directly. Political Correctness is wrong, at least when it comes to art forms, because it limits how much freedom, and thus creativity, that art form can have, thus its quality. Not to mention, I think we're all getting tired of having all that BS shoved in our face all the time.
Stephen Hughes I completely disagree the women’s revolution is great and the matches are pretty good especially in a company we’re women were basically sex models for the fans to watch so the men could get ready.But I definitely agree something is missing with WWE today.
Never in history was there anyone else who could control an entire stadium apart from stone cold and the rock,they knew how good they wore,you just don’t have that anymore
Stone Cold and The Rock are certainly the biggest names that come to mind but there were a hell of a lot of characters back then who got a huge reaction from the crowd. Kurt Angle was on fire for a while when he was a face, Kane was fucking awesome in 2000, 2001 and 2002, especially in the royal rumbles.
The heel turn didn’t work because he had no big baby face to go against, The Rock was gone and Triple H teamed up with Austin instead of feuding against him.
I never viewed Austin as a babyface to begin with. I don't think he ever was true babyface. He just took his heel run in a "Different" route...one with hugs...lol.
These days people use the term GOAT way too often. I've seen people calling NXT wrestlers a GOAT when they have only been wrestling for a year. Which makes no sense. THIS MAN IS THE GOAT. Without a shadow of a doubt. He also has the title of cutting the greatest promo to ever happen in sports entertainment. The Austin 3:16 promo.
I don't know if he's the GOAT, he's my personal favorite but there are great arguments for Flair, Funk, Dusty, Rogers amongst others a lot of it is what you grew up.
I'd like to meet the 10 year old who calls an NXT wrestler the GOAT so that I can smack the fuck out of them. There is no wrestler today that even comes close to the level of talent that anyone from the Attitude Era had. Taker is the GOAT (my opinion), with an honorable mention to Flair.
I make the argument that Two men are the GOATS and I have a Top 10 of heavy hitters but imo Steve Austin and Randy Savage are the GOATS. Hogan is a Pioneer and led the charge of making Wrestling mainstream BUT when it comes to Box office,How serious they took their gimmicks,their ability to have good matches while being brawlers,the look,the promo,the versatility between heel & babyface...id put them at the top. And as highly rated as Austin is he still doesnt get credit imo for just that chill you get when that glass breaks,even today its a magical feeling like im 10 again and im 30. Nobody has captivated me into wrestling the way Austin did.
Anybody else notice how stone colds tempo and energy switch up after he was given the okay to curse. It’s like 100 lbs came off his shoulders and he could finally be the toughest S.O.B. again 😂😂😂
Today's wrestling doesn't have real larger than life transcending characters I don't think it's wwe's fault .im 40yrs old .i know it's fake i need a lil more to be entertained .same reason people stopped watchinf reality tv 10yrs ago. I think its just 2019 era I mean when I watched njpw for the past 2 yrs I was super glued to wrestling like it was 2001.even that has died down too
I was born in 1990. Im so blessed to watch attitude era live as a kid. Outside of attitude era, i feel moments k Im 2006-10 was the last epic days of wrestling. Randy orton becoming champion and fallout with evolution was the closest thing i felt to attitude era hype. Orton was on absolute fire. Also, every big Shawn Michaels match felt epic during that time period. Last but not least, kurt angle, undertaker and batista had amazing matches on smackdown!!!
do what? me: i want the attitude era back you: no you don't me: ok, you're right, i don't, what was i thinking? uggggh! I'm such an idiot! (chuckle) HA! BWAHAHAHA!!!
shadybrain3424 what are you even talking about, who tries? wwe? lol that’s literally what everyone in the comments is talking about: how wwe is PG now, has shit creative direction, and thus the attitude era style should come back
Steve Austin got more over when he was out with the neck injury after the piledriver than he ever did wrestling 20 minute "5 star" classics. Wrestling companies pander to the wrestling fans now and the potential fans that could (and in the 90's did) pop the ratings are not given one fucking reason to watch RAW, SD!, NXT or AEW.
I was born after the attitude era but I've still downloaded and watched almost everything the WWF had to offer from 1995-2001. I can't choke down the present-day shit.
wwe will never be like wwf attitude era it felt like in wwf it was all about being the best and getting to the top and felt real but now it seems like more about looking good for tv
@@pjmathison9787 yeah your right man but they could help just a tad bit . The storylines are so bad . I dont follow on to much but from what I've seen I really like ricochet . His moves are really good .
Social media does a lot of damage too. WWE do have some characters, like Bray Wyatt. but than after the show Bray Wyatt will tweet to fans, or tweet something about politics (not him in particular, just an example). thus breaking the immersion and the characters.
Ah yes, the "immersion" that never existed for anyone above the age of 8, lol. Stop contextualizing things from the perspective of some dumbass kid in the 90s.
@@frieza65 nah it lasted atleast until 2012. None of the top wrestlers from attitude era and ruthless aggression eras would lose their mystique like this
The top 3 reasons are 1. Lack of creativity(repetitive/unintersting characters/storylines). Examples include: Lashley V Rusev, anything involving Corbin, 80% of tag teams, everything on SM except Bryan/Wyatt, 80% of anything that happend this past decade. 2. The misuse/lack of roster talent. The talent is way too spread out over 5 shows when you include nxt uk and 205 live. Then there's AEW, who has a few legitimate all time greats as well as other growing promotions. The main events have been so bad for the longest time its truly a travesty. But to WWE it doesnt matter because they bank on the fact that everyone will watch anyway no matter what. A majority of the entire WWE roster wouldnt even have made it 10 years ago. On the flip side, guys like Aliester Black, Drew McIntyre and Randy Orton should be the top draws/main eventers on Raw and not repetitive 6 man tag matches that include the OC/street profits/viking raiders or whatever other Boring combination of people. McIntyre, Orton and Black have superstar written all over them. However, none of them have had a championship or major push in years. Raw would instantly be better if these 3 guys were the main eventers. 3. The softening of WWE. When WWE was at its peak, and for most of its history, it was intended for an adult audience. Over the last 10 years it has been geared towards a general audience. This is another reason why they have profited without actually upkeeping a quality product. Everyone hates Roman but when he debuted with the Shield he was clearly the best out of the 3 and easily had the most mystique. He was misused ever since then, groomed to be a PG hero character. If he stayed a quiet but deadly character than WWE would have been that much better. I dont think anyone truly enjoyed anything that involved Reigns(and Rollins for that matter) over the last few years. All in all, its clear that WWE prefers to have a general/mainstream audience since this will make them the most money rather than catering to an aging fanbase. This is perfectly shown in the Dean Ambrose situation. His character is very similar in WWE and AEW but the key difference is in WWE he had to closely follow directions for what his character could say and do. In AEW he can do and be whoever he wants without restriction. The "Moxley" character is much more vulgar than the "psycho" gimmick he was given in WWE. You can tell that he really tried to make it work in WWE but at the end of the day there was just too much control. He looks likes he is truly enjoying himself in AEW, which wasnt the case in WWE. Wrestling in general is just lacking star power. Even in AEW there's only a few true people that are worth watching.
True , that lack of big names is mostly present today.Nowdays , u re pretty much waiting a whole week for 5-7 minutes of Bray. He is imo the only one who could ve made it back in the day, but won't make it now cuz of the era he's in. There is just nobody that he can defeat that d make me go: omg he actually did it,this guy is serious business. This decade failed to create those stars. Furthermore , it managed to,in a way, butcher some names to an extent such as Brock by being defeated twice by Seth this year. Undertaker losing at wm a couple of times , which essentially did nothing for anyone .The streak was supposed to elevate someone like Bray, and they used it on Brock ,who at that time was already a well established threat. Overexposure has also been a massive problem. Nowdays we re getting wrestlemania "worthy" matches on regular shows and that doesn't help either. The only way I see them getting out of this mess is building up Bray big time by bringing back somehow Cena and Rock to retire them, and allowing the Fiend to retire the Undertaker at mania.Lets just go all in with the Fiend.Than they can push someone like Alister Black , and allow him to beat the Fiend at some point,where he s instantly gonna become a legit threat.That way u get two names to look out for in WWE.The last thing d be ending this stupid pg era, but in all honesty I don't see that happening.
Djordje Lalic Taker losing at wm is the biggest disservice wwe has ever done. Back in the 00s, Batista, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Booker T, Chris Benoit, Matt Hardy etc...would all be on the same card most of the time and thats only smackdown. I wonder if the 2010s was simply the 1st major prolonged down period in wresting or if theres never going to be anything that comes close to the 90s-2000s.
Back then WWE had elite stars to carry like the rock and stone cold, undertaker but also what made it the best was all the other A level stars HHH,HBK, Kane, big show in his prime, Angle and even Cena for a little but now it’s not one person ?
I think it's intentionally done to keep current wrestlers from getting as big as any of the guys you've mentioned. When you get to that point you've created such a value in yourself that you gain creative control over your career. Wwe wants its wrestlers under the thumb at all times. Ever notice how every time a wrestler is organically beloved by the crowd he suffers a series of losses and bad booking? I don't think It's by accident.
@Mista Un Known so you compared a lashley segment to a val segment which were years apart. Maybe lashleys version would suck because its been done before. In what way is the attitude era overrated? Its a fact that this was the biggest height of wrestling commercially.
Haha. I was at that Smackdown in Charlotte where Stone Cold dropped the cement through the tour bus. As it was happening it took like 15 minutes before Stone Cold finally got the crane to work and drop it onto the tour bus. Well he didn't even really drop it that fast. They edited and sped up the tape later. LOL. I remember watching the episode 2 days later on Thursday and yeah they edited the hell out of that scene.
I loved wwe from 6 years old .. im 34 .. i cent watch is for about 3/4 years its the same shit .. now ..i dont even watch the 10 min highlights.. wwe you killed my love for wrestling
I'm glad I was a kid during the Attitude Era. I couldn't wait to watch PPV with my older brother. Creating our own events to play on N64 wrestlemania 2000. Good times.
Andre the giant, Earthquake, jake the snake, macho man, Ultimate warrior, the British bulldog, undertaker, kane and more. These characters and storyline's were great and it was just wrestling I watched it as if it was real!
The biggest thing to me is that the titles don't mean anything anymore I mean the world champion is someone who should be on every show every week not like Lesnar coming back when ever he feels like and only wrestling at ppv's. it mattered who was Champion and who they faced now it's like whatever you just hold the belt until the part timer comes back or win the belt and then lose it without a good story or rematch
@AAAnderson055 I mean, you're projecting really hard. I'm not a fan of Lesnar, lmao. I'm just saying the top belts were being passed around like a fat doobie.
@AAAnderson055 I do. The talent was there, but denying that an abundance of short and meaningless title reigns didn't devalue the title is a crock, man. Like, I'm not really sure what your problem is. I'm not denying the quality of the show or the talent of the guys, just that title reigns so numerous and often meaningless hurts your belt.
wrestling needs characters. there is a reason bray wyatt, matt hardy, cm punk, and becky lynch are the most over stars of the past decade. personality does more to sell tickets than great matches. you can see a 5-star match anywhere, anytime. you need something to set yourself apart.
not wrong, but you also need good booking, you can have a great personality slowly fade into nothing from terrible booking, which is what happened to all of those characters you mentioned.
@wharsmetoothpicson i'm not dismissing what you are saying, but after watching a bit of NWA, i can't say they are completely gone. they can still make a lot of improvements, but they have the character work down and it makes it much more watchable.
Its missing a lot but of all the things its missing leads back to one thing...CHARISMA. Ppl love to blame Vince,which you can to a degree, but if you think about it this the first time in history WWE(F) has no charismatic marquee worthy names. Bruno,Billy Graham,Bob Backlund,Tony Atlas,Rocky Johnson to Hogan,Macho,Warrior,Flair,Piper,Perfect to Bret,Shawn,Austin,Rock,HHH,Foley,Taker to Cena,Orton,Brock,Guerrero,RVD,Benoit,Jericho. Vince McMahon has ALWAYS had a chessboard of charismatic players to work with,im sorry but nobody in today’s wrestling is captivating enough that I need to either pay my money to see him destroy a guy or get his ass beat.
Well goldberg probably hasnt taken much of performance enhancing drugs, since he still comes to the shows to wrestle from time to time. Austin is probably juiced to hell.
Stone Cold is prob taking some HGH these days, not riods I doubt. Goldberg took more steroids back then and it's taken a toll on his body, same with Lesnar. Think Goldberg stuck with HGH with is technically less effective in results, but safer especially when thinking about his family.
WWE missing consistent storylines, everybody back in the day at least used to have a role, the titles need to matter especially. And have a mix of outside and inside.
There's no more great Rivalries between superstars, no more clash with McMahon, no more backstage drama, no more great superstars like Steve Austin, Undertaker, Cena, Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Batista, Edge & Trish Stratus
Nothing will ever hold a candle to what wrestling was during the late 80s until the early 00s, but if we're talking which company has the best overall product, it's AEW. I mean Rob Gronkowski is the WWE 24/7 champion. That title i a knockoff PG version of the Hardcore title. NXT is pretty good, but Raw and Smackdown! are missing the elements that made them great during the mid 90s to early 00s. Booker T's promotion Reality of Wrestling is pretty good too. Check it out on RUclips.
Dragan Lojanicich Found the guy who's still hanging on Vince's jockstrap. I'm not saying AEW is perfect. It isn't, but at least what they're putting out makes me believe they give a damn about wrestling. WWE hasn't looked as inspired and spontaneous in 10+ years. I grew up during the Attitude Era and watched the WWE up until 2015. There are good moments (the Broken Matt Hardy vs. Bray Wyatt beef was cool) but it isn't the same anymore. Not even close.
@@filliphulles2867 I wouldn't say it's 'quite' as good as Attitude Era wrestling, but it's still very good. It doesn't feel squeaky clean like WWE does, and there's some really technical and inventive wrestling going on. My favorite part of the entire thing is that you still get to see cool matches on the weekly show, instead of all of the cool stuff being in pay-per-views. Also, it's nice to have quarterly pay-per-views instead of monthly. Gives more time for storylines to build, and feels more dramatic.
everything in wrestling as a whole is lacking: Corny acting. lack of alpha male characters. Entrance music doesn't match the characters (and overall sucks). Mood of the lighting doesn't match. poor bookings. lame storylines. too much botching(especially in the women's division). no story telling in the actual matches itself. (the one thing that is hugely under-looked!)
@@rockthedwaynejohnshon3511 100 percent. Heels are suppose to come across as impossible to beat and to some degree ruthless and intimidating...AEW has a guy called the "spanish god" whos suppose to be a heel...dude, hes a little kid that looks like justin beiber.
it was a crap match too. undertaker either faked being tired for the whole time or was tired the whole time. he should've lost the match a lot better. the dude was a legend.
got into watching wrestling religiously towards the tail end of Attitude and beginning of Aggression. Dearly miss the good ol' days. Such a different time. A better time. No filter, just straight entertainment. Am glad I was able to witness some great matches live, which I can still recall some to this day. Social media has also made it less enjoyable, in a sense. I used to just view these wrestlers for who they are in the ring, I didn't know what's going to happen. I didn't know their real names or whatever, but it didn't matter. These old school guys were just absolutely menacing and such a joy to watch the program.
whats missing? 1. talent 2. pyro 3. back stage brawls 4. creative control 5. muscles 6. aesthetically pleasing titles 7. titles with prestige 8. blood 9. swearing 10. shoots 11. sexuality 12. high risk maneuvers 13. storylines 14. masculine wrestlers 15. wrestlers with attitude/charisma 16. rowdy crowds 17. believability AEW only has a problem with storylines and muscles right now. they also lack believability... but i think the storylines will pick up... i doubt they ever get any bigger guys or go for more realism.. but they're as close to being perfect as we'l ever see going forward.... WWE is dead
Can't take you seriously when you think sexuality is needed to be a good show and also, AEW has a problem with ratings lol, their fans and wrestlers talks more about WWE instead of AEW and when people talks about AEW is when they botched hard and got bad ratings. You may want to think WWE is dead but it's far from it.
I have been watching wwe for 20 years now and here are things what i find wrong: 1. Too much scripted promos, in one of the interviews kevin nash mentioned how wrestlers are capable but aren't given the freedom. 2. Use of socia media by superstars, i know sounds stupid in this day and age but internet has really killed kayfabe today if i was a wwe superstar i would not probably use it. 3. Too much wrestling, raw-smackdown-nxt-ppv every month, live events gosh it's too much for fans and more for superstars. Concept of off season should be there but will hurt financially 4. Talented wrestlers with no character depth, merely using catchphrases. 5. No seperate tv time for women, either give them separate weekly show or give them entire 3rd hour of raw
@@Macabre124 Goldberg , the Rock , Brock , Stone cold, and Kurt Angle all left around the time frame of 2004 . Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero died... MMA started getting more popular and making pro wrestling look far less legitimate. Vince should have let somebody else buy WcW, then he wasted all the talent that filtered in from WcW in an ego trip..They lost the law suit and had to change their name to wwE (entertainment) which sounded weaker. They completely forgot what worked, and worst of all ,there just aren't any guys like those larger than life dudes from the 80s and 90s anywhere near a ring trying to learn how to wrestle so they could replace the aging ones and there hasn't been for a long long time. The wwe product is UN-watchable and there is no sign even off in the most distant horizon that it will revert back to being as big a part of pop culture as it was. Everybody knows it's fake and these days you can easily see it's fake. The fact that pro wrestling is "a work" is not protected with that honor it had before the mid 90's so it was really just a matter of time before the industry ran out of steam.
@@thejammathon3649 out of all the thousands of comments about this issue of wWE dying, yours explains it all. Perfectly said and sums it up pretty much. I hope everyone sees your comment. And I read hundreds of comment and opinions on this issue
It will never be the same, the world has changed. Be grateful if you were apart of the magical days.
aew had moxley vs omega and people were criticizing for going too far. It's also the society that led us to this day.
fuck the SJWs. fuck political correctness. fuck PG. and fuck wwe for bending the knee and going soft.
@@wackratos8072 aew should be ashamed for kissing up to the PC shills. Its bad enough wwe is doing it.
@@lynnpabontheelitehero6579 you're part of the problem dumbass lol.
Wacfwaef match was trash.
THE WWF IS PAINFULLY MISSED !!!!
Wwe
@@kamronlynch it used to be wwf and it was amazing
@@wolverineiscool7161 but now it's wwe and it's 💩
@@kamronlynch obviously its wwe now but i agree its shit. It used to be so friggin good.
@@wolverineiscool7161 since the ruthless aggression era 2002 to 2005
1. PG rating
2. No 'scary' or badass wrestlers
3. Everyone trying to be models
Gunkanjima Aleister Black, The Fiend
@@SMELLTHECHEEZ all dogshit
Ro R and the sides of the ring is a banner that lights up 🤦🏾♂️
maybe its not missing anything. maybe this pile of garbage they put on today is deliberately meant for this witless generation
@@Darkness-ie2yl I believe catering to the masses and having horrible wrestling personalities is a byproduct of going PG. Stone Cold, Kane, Golberg ect, when their music came on and they walked down the ramp - it was truly terrifying because they legitimately owned their character. Nothing against Cody Rhodes or anyone else, but these dudes care more about looking in the mirror before going out for a match
Wrestling was best from late 80’s to early 2000’s. 15-20 years. Best time Era. I have a hard time watching it these days. Long live guys like Stone Cold and Goldberg!
Comparing the two. Goldberg is shit
Fuck Goldberg
The 2010s was horrible and the start of decline in quality.
Really Goldberg
wwe in the 2010s was boring sloppy soft toned down garbage.
Three things missing in this PG era :
(1) Attitude Era
(2) Ruthless Aggressive Era
(3) Stone Cold Steve Austin
WWE could copy the aggressive era but will the boys and the girls in the backroom support it?
Attie Pollard nope because of social media
@@dylanstarzec2099 I'm sure in their contract it says they need to shut up about storylines
If there's a Superstar that his persona is being an Anti-SJW then maybe
2 = 💩
He's looked like the same 50 year old for the last 20 something years
It because he's in his 50 now
Harder to see bald people age cos there is no hair. However he did aged, very obvious from his dropping facial lines
If you're bald early, your age freezes....
Jonathan Esser Shawn Michaels says otherwise
@kriegerliebhaber he's got to be on TRT( testosterone replacement therapy) look how jacked he still is. 50+ year olds just don't look like that without some help
Over produced, too glossy, too scripted, goofy camera work, doesn't resemble a sport, cardboard cutout wrestlers that haven't honed their character, bad announcing, too long, no attempt to keep kayfabe, wrestlers who tweet, no mystique, no roided up monsters, no spontaneity, no psychology, matches resemble a gymnastic routine, no grit, and geared towards kids. Did I miss anything?
Humor. Political correctness and identity politics have killed it thanks to social justice warriors who get offended by ANYTHING.
No need for roids but other than that spot on
@WhatsHappening783402 lashley has had that body since his military days. I truly doubt thats roids. I think he's earned it and just always had the discipline to maintain it.
Also the fact that the wrestling games suck these days.
Ummmm.... wait for it, wait for it, no pyro??
Austin is still in amazing shape for 55 years old.
Exiverence steroids
Powerwheelz or not taking them. Look at all the ones who have used and abused them 20 years ago, they are all spent now.
Powerwheelz he didn’t beat his wife. He only went stiff on her a few times.
hes in amazing shape period lol
Mickey Ari no doubt about it, but it’s from the fountain of youth juice, which I don’t have a problem with.
Missing: Good Storyline & Super Characters ✌️
I also hate how every wrestler has a stupid little logo that is everywhere just to make money out of it.
@@heiko231 2022 2036
WWE could reach the same hype like the late 90's by having more reckless talent. Too many play it safe which deflates replay views, but understandable I guess lol
Also missing the violence divas and edginess everyone used to tune in for back in the day lmao
It was peaked with the Attitude Era! Stone Cold, The Hart Foundation, Mankind, Undertaker, Goldberg, Kevin Nash, D-Generation X, Chyna, Kane, Sting, The Steiner Bros, and the List goes on. I remember it was fun to watch, even the smaller names like Steve Blackman, Dan the Beast Severn, etc. fun to watch.
Man. It was so awesome. We all were really blessed to have had that era of wrestling.
The pg era killed wwe
Ruthless aggression was alright imo
@@ddsjgvk agreed. the pg era is where it went downhill.
@@ddsjgvk I agreed both were good eras pg killed wwe
The miz was the last new-ish wrestler that I saw with any personality. Most of them wouldn't even do well in a local used car sales commercial.
the miz is the ultimate cringe fest in my estimation..
@@lucasloucetios164 That's his persona, reminds me of Edge & Christian cringe promos back then.
@@lucasloucetios164 the whole current wwe is one big cringe fest. At least Miz is taking risks.
The Miz is the worst!
the women suck too. they try too hard to be serious and wwe keeps forcing feminist cringe down our throats.
Bruh Them back stage brawls That looked like they was happening outa nowhere Them were the days!
Exactly. Everything felt so random. Now you can see it coming
The internet/social media killed wrestling also. There’s spoilers and dirt sheets everywhere. Nothing surprises us anymore
Honestly man but I feel like there has to be some way for them to keep shit under wraps better than they do
burz7 it only gonna get worse, best way is to stay off Twitter, reddit etc
True. Chappelle's last couple specials were more popular because he became super strict about cell phones brought in
@@burz7990 yea SWERVING THE DIRT SHEETS & when they do,pple.get mad.
@AAAnderson055 just like we all knew Roman would turn on the shield but WWE saw our thoughts and then they swerved us and turned Rollins instead Triple H himself.even stated long after Rollins turned that they considered Roman but went with Rollins.
the dirt sheets threw to spoiler to that break up and WWE swerved everyone.
Something that I noticed as the years went on was how Social media made it to where no one has character names anymore, not in the traditional sense at least. When I watched wrestling it was Kane, Rock, Stone Cold, Undertaker, Mankind, Big Boss Man, Big Show. Now because of things like twitter handles, and Instagram they just have normal names. Steve Johnson vs Brad Wilbert! Whooooooo!!! I dont actually know if these people exist, but I think I made my point.
For real. Great point
Big Boss Man was such a cool ring name
It's because Wrestlers learned if they use their own name and identity Vince McMahon can't own it! Fake Razor Ramon and Diesel come to mind lol
Actually I thought the opposite. I found it interesting when Cena came along because it wasn’t a random name
That was such an epic time in wrestling. I remember kids wearing wrestling shirts to school & arguing over who was better. There was no political correctness back then. Wrestling was edgy, offensive, & cool. I miss those days.
Thank God I'm part of that era. But I really miss good old days of wrestling. WWE was great till 2004 and after that everything changed.
"There was no political correctness back then." Lol, yes there was. Political correctness evolved into its modern meaning specifically in the 90s, for fuck's sake, and it existed as a concept even before that. It was already an issue. You just didn't notice it because you were either a kid or a stupid, out-of-touch younger adult at the time. Either way, it's no excuse to keep repeating this uneducated bullshit. It's most likely not "political correctness" that you're actually railing against. That's just a catch-all term you've heard other retards throw around.
frieza65 yo calm down
@@saketpandeysp33 Still some good stuff in 2005 and 2006. 2007 started to go downhill, then I pretty much stopped watching until early 2013 (when Wyatt Family and the Shield were first coming in).
@@frieza65 OK, there was political Correctness... But WWF didn't give a fuck, cos they cared more about putting on the best show possible, getting those reactions from the audience, and kicking WCW's ass.
Better actors back then
Yeah, really the thing is the scripting. Back in the Austin-era they didn’t script the shows word for word. They had Ideas and let the wrestlers be wrestlers. Know it’s all scripted and they’re trying to turn wrestlers into actors and they aren’t. They’re wrestlers.
I disagree, back then wrestlers wrote their own promos and were allowed created freedom to be themselves, they can’t do that in today’s programming and it kills them tbh
Richard Smolock Well this is the millennial generation filled with millennial wrestlers. They’re all for having a good time, all the time. They don’t take anything seriously.
@@horizontoday7874 I'm 50 years I loved ecw I can't get into it now. Loved it when it was WWF. It lost alot of viewers and I'm one them.
@@horizontoday7874 Actually a lot of us millennials grew up watching in the Attitude Era, so we know what good wrestling is. WWE just has poor writing, poor performance, and too many rating-related restrictions now to be as good as it was.
just download random raw from 1999 or 2000 watch it and you will understand what wwe lacks....
Better WWE fans
Watch Saturday Night Main Event from 1988, then you'll see
@@mikhailmikhail8740 late 90s - early 00s > 80s wrestling imo, especially in story telling and more mature content, not gonna lie 80s were fun and had tons of legends
@@NostalgicMem0ries we can agree to disagree. The problem is our nostalgic brain doesn't realize the attitude era/monday night wars was only a couple years, while the 80s-91 boom lasted nearly a decade, and the most watched wrestling show ever was the Saturday Night Main event during Wrestlemania 3. And watching wrestling for "storytelling" is like going to church on Sunday to drink wine.
Wrestling is and always has been about (since it debut on television in the 50s) is wrestlers talking and then wrestling to see who wins. We try to over- intellectualize the product, when really it is super simple and basic.
@@mikhailmikhail8740 i agree to disagree. But i didnt meant that just attitude era was amazing, even tho wcw+wwf attitude era lasted from 1995 to 2001. ruthless agression era is also one of best, that lasted from 2001 to 2005~, so we have about 10 years too of best era. For me actually looks like 80s and early 90s are nostalgia that people talk about, i was teen not kid during late 90s, and i still believe that 80s was very childish era with tons of cartoonish gimmicks. Wcw aka nwa in 80s during four horseman, flair , dusty decade was amazing wrestling spectacle with great stories and amazing wrestling. Still it cant match best years of wrestling monday night wars and early ruthless aggression era, voted not just by fans but by most wrestlers to be best era ever.
WWE now is basically watching a Disney show
PC shills are to blame for this. and so in vince for bending the knee.
so true. shit is for kids
Pika Deez Nuts Vince’s old ass. It use to be hard to get signed so when you debut it’s like a huge shock. Nowadays you’ve already seen the guy in nxt, there’s some dumb spoiler or rumor of his debut so there’s no surprise factor there. And then couple months later that nxt guy is midcarding barely for a 5 min match. Like Nakamura. Biggest freaking thing in Japan for years. Got a wm feud with styles , then after just down the hole with terrible booking
duuuude i been saying this straight facts
disney gonna buy wwe on day
When you make anything CHILD FRIENDLY, you are bound to lose quite a bit.
HULKAMANIA would beg to differ, brother
@Th3Aggr3ssiv3 Cons3rvativ3 lmao
@Korvus So Wwe wasn't for kids back in days? When children use to watch we use to think undertaker was dead men his soul was in bottle with fat guy that use to come with him.
Edge was pretty much cringy when he first came.
@@Ichigo-cp9wz 80's was
Max Shultz go back and look how alive the crowds were in the 80s and early 90s.
Some of those pay per views they tore the roof off.
No soul. Its all flips and dives with no emotion. Just going through the motions
That's what the rulers of the world is forcing us into.. soullessness, everything looking and sounding the same, no original movies just remakes of things that WERE original and good, copying, manipulation and excuses. These crap changes are really ruining our lives
Yep. It's like turning a VHS movie into HD and you can see all the makeup. You can see how the spots are constructed now. The older guys were so smooth at making it more believable.
Look at Seth Rollins, He might be a great wrestler but he lacks in ring psychology... Just does moves after moves, hits finisher and leaves..
@@crippleh69 Not only ring psychology he just lacks "it" he doesn't have the gift of the gab for a start. He's not a douchey guy like HBK was or cannot sell a match like Piper did either. Speaking of HBK & Piper they'd routinely walk into the office and tell Vince "Yeah that's not a good idea" guys like Seth Rollins Or Drew McIntyre however will do exactly as they are told. That is the main reason nobody watches today, too many company yes men.
@@PeaceDweller That’s because back then Vince would actually listen, he’s too senile these days
Nothing feels like it’s happening spontaneously anymore. The rise of social media and seeing what’s going on behind the scenes on shows like ‘backstage’ and ‘total divas’ also kills the mystique of the business. There are a multitude of other reasons as well. It’s just a mess.
Question, now was all this done by design?? Are there people who want us to become soul less?? That benifit from us not having any emotions?
Once the wall of Mystique started to fade, the game changed and not for the better.
Darrell Williams Of course we all knew it was a show, even as kids. But wrestling was a form of escapism and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting that feeling as an adult.
Yeah... the mystique is lost cuz everyone knows everything now even those who are behind the masks.
Stone Cold and Booker T in the church confessional still one of the greatest skits ever hahaha 😂😂😂
I forgot about that segment!
Robert Prince I just watched it for the first time in years a few weeks ago haha absolutely brilliant and hilarious 😂😂😂 it’s here on RUclips definitely watch it again! 👏🏽👏🏽
@MrSpliffstarz That joint was raw right there! He was a dynamite personality.
Stone cold what a man.
Mannn the grocery store skit was hilarious to me
It's doubtful it will ever get as popular as it once was again
WCW dying didn't help.
The popularity of ufc really hurt it and the scripted promos n the wrestlers always look similar
@@TheSands83 I stopped watching WWF once I discovered UFC. I tried watching AEW and I think it has potential to be big.
KWPZ21 the wrestlers r just way to small imo... and it’s a little to woke for me to watch
@@TheSands83 Yeah, the wrestlers are so small that it feels like Billy Gunn is same height as The Undertaker. I just watched the matches and not the promos, so I can't really tell if they are being woke.
NWA, MLW and even AEW > WWE. WWE today is largely missing authenticity IMO. Stone Cold, The Rock, Shawn Micheals, Bret Hart, ETC...were not so much acting as characters as they were acting as an amplified version of themselves. Today everything seems to be scripted, micro managed, and very tame, it makes the product boring. Also there isn't enough actual wrestling either.
Like Stone Cold said, they had to compete with WCW and even ECW to a certain extent. Especially when WCW nabbed the top early 90s guys so they had to rely on newer guys and everything they had to offer.
Agreed. I’m younger so I wasn’t alive for that era but I’ve seen some of it and I really hate that I wasn’t alive during that time. Everything now with WWE is too over produced and scripted. And the storytelling for the most part is wack, there’s no direction. NXT is their only product that has that. It’s the only watchable product on WWE. And they actually have wrestling unlike the main product where they do headlocks for 5 minutes lmao
Lmfao no not even "AEW" nice try trying to add it in there but no 😂😂
Pedro Rios So Raw and SD is better than AEW ? STFU and don’t even mention NXT because one brand that they literally didn’t give shits about for years until AEW became a thing doesn’t make up for two extremely shitty brands in Raw and SD
Very well said!
Attitude era is the perfect example of how we take things for granted. My last ever WrestleMania was WM22, sadly after that I packed it in. Every now and then I might watch a video on RUclips that gets recommended but it's very rare.
I loved the Rock and my older brother loved Stone Cold, our farewell WrestleMania was WM19, was worth missing school the next day for, memories.
Coming from a European here...What i notice the most is the TOTAL lack of interresting characters.
The problem with the wwe is the following. First no intimidation, sorry kofi,roman,and ziggler are not intimidating at all. Second they talk to much. Third wheres all the outdoor fights,in the limo,pub,backstage or on the street. Four the smack talk c'mon. Five and a big one characters that stand out and demand your attention,undertaker,
brett hart,stone cold,the rock and anybody that's not plain,doink,goldust,the hurricane anybody remember Irf. These are the things that the wwe is missing.
blame PC culture.
What does you being European have to do with anything.
TraumaER oh and you americans are soooo smart
@@NintendoFighter9000 Thanks!
There's just a million things wrong with the product now, but Austin is right about there not being as much of a sense of urgency.
@AAAnderson055 not really. More like when it was 2 hours long, the programme was packed full of ideas/action but at 3 hours, they are especially struggling to fill time, hence more stiff promos, just to fill time
They need more competition
Today wrestling is for 10 year olds, it’s absolutely horrific to watch. The cut scenes are corny and horribly acted , when they speak on a mic it’s like watching someone speak for the first time infront of the public.
wrestling is catered for 10 year olds period.
10 year olds don't even watch Wrestling anymore. Kids talk about Fortnite and things like that instead of WWE.
Basically WWE is for no one nowadays
@@MauFerrer2000 It is catered to kids, though, because they want that merch money. Kids are the most susceptible and the parents want to please their kids so they spend on merch. That's what they did with Cena and why he had so many different colored shirts, wrist bands, and even towels, it became really cringe at the towel. They then try to apply that to everyone.
Nailed it. And don't get me started on the herky-jerky camera work during action scenes too. Zoom out...ZOOM IN, SHAKE CAMERA......zoom out....ZOOM IN.....Fucking awful.
I honestly just had the epiphany maybe a month ago that Wrestling in general really has ALWAYS been catered to children. The thing about today’s product is that it more obviously insults your intelligence as opposed to how it used to be when kayfabe existed. I watched wrestling from like 92-02 (4-14) no cognitively sound adult could ever emotionally invest in pro wrestling like a pre teen. Even in the back of the biggest adult mark’s mind,they know its a work whereas a child’s monetary and emotional investment in it cant ever be wavered. I would get PISSED if u told me it was predetermined as a kid.
I was 10 years old and cried when Stone Cold turned heel lol those were the days
Damn man. Stone Cold is the most down to earth SOB walking this earth
When technology got better, the show got worse
IXIKAYAKOxSAEKIIXI Lmao stop talking like an out of touch boomer. Technology is always evolving since well before our life time
Arteaga 4K
The sets are simply too much.
u r so damn right about that dude.
look at the wcw entrance stage - simple but badass af! wwe just looks like a movie theatre and a soap opera
@@Arteaga4K Not simply technology just the internet age and social media after which there was a much sudden exponential jump compared to before and less reliance on traditional media.
@@Arteaga4K he said it as in the product is too polished looking nowadays, back in the attitude era it really looked like it was a shithole in bumfuck nowhere where degenerates beat the shit out of each other every week, and it was glorious
Its probably been said many times but I personally kinda feel like the growing presence of the internet in the early 2000's and the rise of social media was a big blow to the product. Information was much harder to acquire during WWE's hayday which helped the WWE as people didn't already know what was going to happen before it did. This goes with what Stone Cold was saying about being spontaneous also. JR uses to have a column called the "Ross Report" on the WWE website that used to be my source for rumours and updates, it was perfect because it used to give you just enough info to keep you interested but not enough to bury the lead.
oh, its that hard for wwe to hide storyline information because of "social media"?? lmao, they cant just not post spoiler shit and picts make it part of the contract too and done deal??l lmao
Triple H when Vince steps down needs Austin as a lead writer and talent relations guy. Would diff see the show improve my leaps and bounds
HHH’s ego is as big as his nose
And fire kevin dunn.
Why? NXT is overrated AF and let’s not pretend that HHH didn’t pour cold water on CM Punk’s red hot heat.
and they need to avoid pandering to PC culture at all costs.
I fucking doubt it
The 90s was a crazy time Wrestling, Hockey, NASCAR were at an insane peak. the general public knew a ton of ppl
I feel like wwe is trying to be way to politically correct now
It's the people in control, they make the decisions and take it where they want. And it seems they not even interested in good entertainment, they just wanna piss people off on a daily basis.
That's essentially what today's climate in society as a whole has done to just about everything. It's not just WWE.
What are you talking about? What's more politically correct now... What makes political correctness wrong?
Do you just enjoy talking this shit, do you even know what political correctness is?
@@reedOsama Overemphasis on women's wrestling, and the whole 'women's revolution', especially when most of the women's matches absolutely suck. The fact that it has become too safe, such that matches like hell in a cell and elimination chamber matches are kind of pointless. And the fact, due to political Correctness, many of the things that made the attitude era and ruthless aggression era great aren't allowed now. The Rock, Stone Cold, DX... These guys couldn't exist in this time.
Of course, that's just to do with political Correctness. There are many other issues, such as the fact that finishers have become pointless. Now you need to do a finisher 6 damn times to win a match. Not to mention those matches (usually involving Brock) that are matches entirely comprising of finishing moves. The fact that matches like Hell in a Cell, as I've mentioned have lost all meaning. It's no longer a last resort to end a rivalry, instead it's done just because 'it's that time of your year'.
But, to answer your question more directly. Political Correctness is wrong, at least when it comes to art forms, because it limits how much freedom, and thus creativity, that art form can have, thus its quality. Not to mention, I think we're all getting tired of having all that BS shoved in our face all the time.
Stephen Hughes I completely disagree the women’s revolution is great and the matches are pretty good especially in a company we’re women were basically sex models for the fans to watch so the men could get ready.But I definitely agree something is missing with WWE today.
They need to acknowledge spoilers and the real issues on the internet and face them head on storyline wise
Thats how to do it
what storylines? 50 reality tv writers and not a single good idea
Attitude Era and Ruthless Aggressive Era painfully missed in this PG Era.
WWE could copy the aggressive era but will the boys and the girls in the backroom support it?
@Jerry Smith
Ruthless Aggression? Get outta here
Attitude era was the best era.
PG Era have been going on since 2008....and now its 2020.....let that sink in 😳😳😳
@@hititdj the shitty part of it is that there seems to be no end in sight.
I stopped watching after the mid 2000s its just too predictable for me all my favorite wrestlers were eathier dead or left the business
Christ Benoît was my last favorite character. So 2007? But been watching since Kane debut ! dude is massive 😳
@@Snipervenomaz meh just about😁
The 2010s is when it got bad.
What is the WWE missing? It’s you, Stone Cold. It’s you.
I miss the Attitude and Ruthless Aggression eras. Those eras were the peak of the WWF/E. I was enamored back than. Now I'm indifferent to WWE.
pg era and modern era sucks. wwe is too soft now.
the days are over. the real one who experienced it when we were young truly know how fire it used to be🙏 😤
Never in history was there anyone else who could control an entire stadium apart from stone cold and the rock,they knew how good they wore,you just don’t have that anymore
There's certainly others that could be added to that list, but for sure, Austin and The Rock are the greatest in that regard.
Stone Cold and The Rock are certainly the biggest names that come to mind but there were a hell of a lot of characters back then who got a huge reaction from the crowd. Kurt Angle was on fire for a while when he was a face, Kane was fucking awesome in 2000, 2001 and 2002, especially in the royal rumbles.
@@Aethelhald *ROMAN EMPIRE* 😈
"Anything can happen in the World Wrestling Federation" - Jim Ross
Went from that to "Nothing happens in the WWE"
i'm in the minority that enjoyed Austin's heel run... it felt like he was a true psychopath lol. D.T.A. - Dont Trust Austin
The heel turn didn’t work because he had no big baby face to go against, The Rock was gone and Triple H teamed up with Austin instead of feuding against him.
I never viewed Austin as a babyface to begin with. I don't think he ever was true babyface. He just took his heel run in a "Different" route...one with hugs...lol.
Me too he was hilarious and you knew he would flip on a dime and he went completely insane. Wish we had more promos of heel Austin.
I liked it
I thought the heel run was good, but it was either wrong place at the wrong time. Or it's executed poorly on Austin and WWE's part.
Love this guy!
Such a blessing to have witnessed him.
So lucky
I think it's missing great personalities.
Love all these old boys on trt. Austin looks more jacked now then hes ever been
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@@escobarrich8753 lol "pause" smh
These days people use the term GOAT way too often. I've seen people calling NXT wrestlers a GOAT when they have only been wrestling for a year. Which makes no sense. THIS MAN IS THE GOAT. Without a shadow of a doubt. He also has the title of cutting the greatest promo to ever happen in sports entertainment. The Austin 3:16 promo.
You are Ri8
I don't know if he's the GOAT, he's my personal favorite but there are great arguments for Flair, Funk, Dusty, Rogers amongst others a lot of it is what you grew up.
I'd like to meet the 10 year old who calls an NXT wrestler the GOAT so that I can smack the fuck out of them. There is no wrestler today that even comes close to the level of talent that anyone from the Attitude Era had.
Taker is the GOAT (my opinion), with an honorable mention to Flair.
I make the argument that Two men are the GOATS and I have a Top 10 of heavy hitters but imo Steve Austin and Randy Savage are the GOATS. Hogan is a Pioneer and led the charge of making Wrestling mainstream BUT when it comes to Box office,How serious they took their gimmicks,their ability to have good matches while being brawlers,the look,the promo,the versatility between heel & babyface...id put them at the top. And as highly rated as Austin is he still doesnt get credit imo for just that chill you get when that glass breaks,even today its a magical feeling like im 10 again and im 30. Nobody has captivated me into wrestling the way Austin did.
The undertaker is 100% the GOAT
Anybody else notice how stone colds tempo and energy switch up after he was given the okay to curse. It’s like 100 lbs came off his shoulders and he could finally be the toughest S.O.B. again 😂😂😂
I was born in 1990, was lucky enough to get a glimpse of the mid/late 90's and the beginning of the 2000's wrestling. Magical times.
Today's wrestling doesn't have real larger than life transcending characters I don't think it's wwe's fault .im 40yrs old .i know it's fake i need a lil more to be entertained .same reason people stopped watchinf reality tv 10yrs ago. I think its just 2019 era I mean when I watched njpw for the past 2 yrs I was super glued to wrestling like it was 2001.even that has died down too
I agree with you
"Sense of urgency" and "intensity"
This is what todays wrestlers are missing.
Add good story line to the list too bro
I can't believe that the good old days will only be memories.
Check out wrestlingbios, he's doing reliving the war 👌
Social media has changed the game too. Literally nothing is a surprise anymore. Surprise returns, finishes, etc
I was born in 1990. Im so blessed to watch attitude era live as a kid. Outside of attitude era, i feel moments k
Im 2006-10 was the last epic days of wrestling. Randy orton becoming champion and fallout with evolution was the closest thing i felt to attitude era hype. Orton was on absolute fire. Also, every big Shawn Michaels match felt epic during that time period. Last but not least, kurt angle, undertaker and batista had amazing matches on smackdown!!!
Steve is officially a senior citizen
I dont see it
people say they want the attitude era back, but they don't, anytime someone tries the PC police shut it down.
So they do want the attitude era back is what you are saying?
do what?
me: i want the attitude era back
you: no you don't
me: ok, you're right, i don't, what was i thinking? uggggh! I'm such an idiot!
(chuckle) HA! BWAHAHAHA!!!
SJWs have no place in the wrestling community. they need to leave.
shadybrain3424 what are you even talking about, who tries? wwe? lol that’s literally what everyone in the comments is talking about: how wwe is PG now, has shit creative direction, and thus the attitude era style should come back
Steve Austin got more over when he was out with the neck injury after the piledriver than he ever did wrestling 20 minute "5 star" classics. Wrestling companies pander to the wrestling fans now and the potential fans that could (and in the 90's did) pop the ratings are not given one fucking reason to watch RAW, SD!, NXT or AEW.
RAW, SD!, NXT
None. Triple H and Cody both cater to the marks and the ratings are declining.
@Cold Snap That Nitro was the highest rated that month. And it did 3x as many viewers as AEW and NXT combined.
@Cold Snap So lets not bother then and lets also let the art form die out.
Maaaan I'm so freaking glad I grew up during the Attitude era...wrestling used to be AWESOME back then...glory days man!
I was born after the attitude era but I've still downloaded and watched almost everything the WWF had to offer from 1995-2001. I can't choke down the present-day shit.
wwe will never be like wwf attitude era it felt like in wwf it was all about being the best and getting to the top and felt real but now it seems like more about looking good for tv
He said it . Wheres the pyro. Way to many camera angles. They cut camera angles like every 5 secs its ridiculous. But damn sure need more pyro .
Jacob Turner pyro won’t change these wack storylines
@@pjmathison9787 yeah your right man but they could help just a tad bit . The storylines are so bad . I dont follow on to much but from what I've seen I really like ricochet . His moves are really good .
Pyro came back months ago, there’s pyro for like everything now.
Just start showing re-runs of the attitude era every monday
It’s very simple: competition
You’re not challenging yourself creatively or by any other means when there’s no one taking money away from you
...kind of like the NFL and its agreement with EA and Madden, right?
I’m glad I watched it from 97 to 07. I’m sure mid 80s to 90s were the best Wrestling entertainment period
damn stone cold is still a certified badass even to this day.. my childhood sure as hell was great watching the attitude era.
Social media does a lot of damage too. WWE do have some characters, like Bray Wyatt. but than after the show Bray Wyatt will tweet to fans, or tweet something about politics (not him in particular, just an example). thus breaking the immersion and the characters.
Ah yes, the "immersion" that never existed for anyone above the age of 8, lol. Stop contextualizing things from the perspective of some dumbass kid in the 90s.
@@frieza65 nah it lasted atleast until 2012. None of the top wrestlers from attitude era and ruthless aggression eras would lose their mystique like this
"Anything could happen."
Have a WWE/Universal title change on Raw or Smackdown every so often, maybe once or twice per year...
No one even cares about who's champion these days.
The top 3 reasons are 1. Lack of creativity(repetitive/unintersting characters/storylines). Examples include: Lashley V Rusev, anything involving Corbin, 80% of tag teams, everything on SM except Bryan/Wyatt, 80% of anything that happend this past decade.
2. The misuse/lack of roster talent. The talent is way too spread out over 5 shows when you include nxt uk and 205 live. Then there's AEW, who has a few legitimate all time greats as well as other growing promotions. The main events have been so bad for the longest time its truly a travesty. But to WWE it doesnt matter because they bank on the fact that everyone will watch anyway no matter what. A majority of the entire WWE roster wouldnt even have made it 10 years ago. On the flip side, guys like Aliester Black, Drew McIntyre and Randy Orton should be the top draws/main eventers on Raw and not repetitive 6 man tag matches that include the OC/street profits/viking raiders or whatever other Boring combination of people. McIntyre, Orton and Black have superstar written all over them. However, none of them have had a championship or major push in years. Raw would instantly be better if these 3 guys were the main eventers.
3. The softening of WWE. When WWE was at its peak, and for most of its history, it was intended for an adult audience. Over the last 10 years it has been geared towards a general audience. This is another reason why they have profited without actually upkeeping a quality product. Everyone hates Roman but when he debuted with the Shield he was clearly the best out of the 3 and easily had the most mystique. He was misused ever since then, groomed to be a PG hero character. If he stayed a quiet but deadly character than WWE would have been that much better. I dont think anyone truly enjoyed anything that involved Reigns(and Rollins for that matter) over the last few years.
All in all, its clear that WWE prefers to have a general/mainstream audience since this will make them the most money rather than catering to an aging fanbase. This is perfectly shown in the Dean Ambrose situation. His character is very similar in WWE and AEW but the key difference is in WWE he had to closely follow directions for what his character could say and do. In AEW he can do and be whoever he wants without restriction. The "Moxley" character is much more vulgar than the "psycho" gimmick he was given in WWE. You can tell that he really tried to make it work in WWE but at the end of the day there was just too much control. He looks likes he is truly enjoying himself in AEW, which wasnt the case in WWE. Wrestling in general is just lacking star power. Even in AEW there's only a few true people that are worth watching.
True , that lack of big names is mostly present today.Nowdays , u re pretty much waiting a whole week for 5-7 minutes of Bray. He is imo the only one who could ve made it back in the day, but won't make it now cuz of the era he's in. There is just nobody that he can defeat that d make me go: omg he actually did it,this guy is serious business. This decade failed to create those stars. Furthermore , it managed to,in a way, butcher some names to an extent such as Brock by being defeated twice by Seth this year. Undertaker losing at wm a couple of times , which essentially did nothing for anyone .The streak was supposed to elevate someone like Bray, and they used it on Brock ,who at that time was already a well established threat. Overexposure has also been a massive problem. Nowdays we re getting wrestlemania "worthy" matches on regular shows and that doesn't help either. The only way I see them getting out of this mess is building up Bray big time by bringing back somehow Cena and Rock to retire them, and allowing the Fiend to retire the Undertaker at mania.Lets just go all in with the Fiend.Than they can push someone like Alister Black , and allow him to beat the Fiend at some point,where he s instantly gonna become a legit threat.That way u get two names to look out for in WWE.The last thing d be ending this stupid pg era, but in all honesty I don't see that happening.
Djordje Lalic Taker losing at wm is the biggest disservice wwe has ever done. Back in the 00s, Batista, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Booker T, Chris Benoit, Matt Hardy etc...would all be on the same card most of the time and thats only smackdown. I wonder if the 2010s was simply the 1st major prolonged down period in wresting or if theres never going to be anything that comes close to the 90s-2000s.
Ethereal Punishment NXT is the hottest brand of wresting right now for sure. They definitely have their stuff together.
Loved watching stone cold growing up. Never missed a Monday night raw or a smack down with my dad
Those days had such a big star power in roster that we used to witness big superstars clashing on non PPV shows
Truly those were golden days
Back then WWE had elite stars to carry like the rock and stone cold, undertaker but also what made it the best was all the other A level stars HHH,HBK, Kane, big show in his prime, Angle and even Cena for a little but now it’s not one person ?
I think it's intentionally done to keep current wrestlers from getting as big as any of the guys you've mentioned. When you get to that point you've created such a value in yourself that you gain creative control over your career. Wwe wants its wrestlers under the thumb at all times. Ever notice how every time a wrestler is organically beloved by the crowd he suffers a series of losses and bad booking? I don't think It's by accident.
Wesley Cabinets that What Vince Get for Pushing Roman for like 5 Years
WWE IS MISSING ATTITUDE ERA.....
People say that, but I remember quite a bit of the Attitude Era sucking... Hard. Lol Let it go. We're the old folks now. Let 'em live.
@@KrisLarkVoiceovers fuck that...things in life are suppose to improve, not decline.
@Mista Un Known so you compared a lashley segment to a val segment which were years apart. Maybe lashleys version would suck because its been done before.
In what way is the attitude era overrated? Its a fact that this was the biggest height of wrestling commercially.
@@kenwkls6392 The Attitude Era was way better than PG era the older Generations are way better wrestlers than a new generations
Attitude Era has the shock factor but the Ruthless Aggression era had better writing, superstars and wrestling.
Haha. I was at that Smackdown in Charlotte where Stone Cold dropped the cement through the tour bus. As it was happening it took like 15 minutes before Stone Cold finally got the crane to work and drop it onto the tour bus. Well he didn't even really drop it that fast. They edited and sped up the tape later. LOL. I remember watching the episode 2 days later on Thursday and yeah they edited the hell out of that scene.
“Ahhh hell yeahhhh!!!” Made my night hearing that haha
He was the reason I started watching wwe but sad that he had to leave wrestling at such early age .my favorite wrestler of all time
I loved wwe from 6 years old .. im 34 .. i cent watch is for about 3/4 years its the same shit .. now ..i dont even watch the 10 min highlights.. wwe you killed my love for wrestling
Same. I am 34 now too and watched WWF since I was 7. Attitude Era was the best era ever.
Stone cold made me tune in every week , if you agree give me a Hell Yeah
Hell yeah after The Rock and Stone Cold left it wasn't the same.
@@planetphatness hell yeah
Hell no ;)
@@BxtxlJuicx fuck you
I miss the old days when Rick Flair, Stone Cold and others made up their own speeches and scripts.
I'm glad I was a kid during the Attitude Era.
I couldn't wait to watch PPV with my older brother. Creating our own events to play on N64 wrestlemania 2000. Good times.
what ? ^^
Andre the giant, Earthquake, jake the snake, macho man, Ultimate warrior, the British bulldog, undertaker, kane and more. These characters and storyline's were great and it was just wrestling I watched it as if it was real!
I miss The Attitude Era! All We Can do now is just reflect on it watch it on RUclips that’s about it! Today’s WWE can’t do what Attitude Era did!
The biggest thing to me is that the titles don't mean anything anymore I mean the world champion is someone who should be on every show every week not like Lesnar coming back when ever he feels like and only wrestling at ppv's. it mattered who was Champion and who they faced now it's like whatever you just hold the belt until the part timer comes back or win the belt and then lose it without a good story or rematch
I mean, to be fair, it's not like the titles had much prestige at the height of the Attitude Era either.
Nah, not every week. Every other week and the PPV.
@AAAnderson055 I mean, you're projecting really hard. I'm not a fan of Lesnar, lmao. I'm just saying the top belts were being passed around like a fat doobie.
@AAAnderson055 No, I'm not. Look at how many times the belt changed hands in 1999.
@AAAnderson055 I do. The talent was there, but denying that an abundance of short and meaningless title reigns didn't devalue the title is a crock, man. Like, I'm not really sure what your problem is. I'm not denying the quality of the show or the talent of the guys, just that title reigns so numerous and often meaningless hurts your belt.
Believability is what's missing for me.
When was wrestling ever believable? Only children believe that.
for me, it's integrity. wwe is too scared to stand up to the PC/SJW mob.
@@theopulentone1573 thats not whet he ment what he ment was imagine seeing a guy like joohny gargano beat a guy like EC3
@@exileotibi5577 exactly
@@OtherBarry4908 agree.
People joke about Keanu,Aniston and others not aging but Austin is just insane. It’s been 3 decades(technically 4) and dude looks the exact same
Back in the good old days we had no internet, social media .. period.
Internet was around in 1999-2000. Granted, the loading times took forever and it cost a small fortune to get it on your cell.
wrestling needs characters. there is a reason bray wyatt, matt hardy, cm punk, and becky lynch are the most over stars of the past decade. personality does more to sell tickets than great matches. you can see a 5-star match anywhere, anytime. you need something to set yourself apart.
not wrong, but you also need good booking, you can have a great personality slowly fade into nothing from terrible booking, which is what happened to all of those characters you mentioned.
Cringey Lynch and Crybaby Punk have no character nor personality :D
@@shadybrain3424 you don't need good booking. you just can't have incompetent booking.
@wharsmetoothpicson i'm not dismissing what you are saying, but after watching a bit of NWA, i can't say they are completely gone. they can still make a lot of improvements, but they have the character work down and it makes it much more watchable.
@@thomasjenkins7506 so you need good booking? I don't think there is such a thing as average booking xD.
Its missing a lot but of all the things its missing leads back to one thing...CHARISMA. Ppl love to blame Vince,which you can to a degree, but if you think about it this the first time in history WWE(F) has no charismatic marquee worthy names. Bruno,Billy Graham,Bob Backlund,Tony Atlas,Rocky Johnson to Hogan,Macho,Warrior,Flair,Piper,Perfect to Bret,Shawn,Austin,Rock,HHH,Foley,Taker to Cena,Orton,Brock,Guerrero,RVD,Benoit,Jericho. Vince McMahon has ALWAYS had a chessboard of charismatic players to work with,im sorry but nobody in today’s wrestling is captivating enough that I need to either pay my money to see him destroy a guy or get his ass beat.
What about Seth Rollins he's way more charismatic than let's say the Rock or Stone Cold for example!
El Pistolero lol
@@David98004 love the bait
@@David98004 lol
What about that fat guy who's trying to be a demon and a weird kindergarten teacher thing at the same time? .
Today, Goldberg's arms are half the size of Steve Austin's what the heck is going on here...
Well goldberg probably hasnt taken much of performance enhancing drugs, since he still comes to the shows to wrestle from time to time. Austin is probably juiced to hell.
Stone Cold is prob taking some HGH these days, not riods I doubt.
Goldberg took more steroids back then and it's taken a toll on his body, same with Lesnar. Think Goldberg stuck with HGH with is technically less effective in results, but safer especially when thinking about his family.
Yeah could be HGH. Also it looks liked Austin hasnt aged at all meanwhile Goldberg looks old as hell and worn out.
WWE missing consistent storylines, everybody back in the day at least used to have a role, the titles need to matter especially. And have a mix of outside and inside.
There's no more great Rivalries between superstars, no more clash with McMahon, no more backstage drama, no more great superstars like Steve Austin, Undertaker, Cena, Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Batista, Edge & Trish Stratus
AEW has captured that feeling, while still having good in ring work
Ethereal Punishment aew just had an amazing fucking Ppv in revolution, wwe hasn’t put out something that good in a long time.
Nothing will ever hold a candle to what wrestling was during the late 80s until the early 00s, but if we're talking which company has the best overall product, it's AEW. I mean Rob Gronkowski is the WWE 24/7 champion. That title i a knockoff PG version of the Hardcore title. NXT is pretty good, but Raw and Smackdown! are missing the elements that made them great during the mid 90s to early 00s.
Booker T's promotion Reality of Wrestling is pretty good too. Check it out on RUclips.
Dragan Lojanicich Found the guy who's still hanging on Vince's jockstrap. I'm not saying AEW is perfect. It isn't, but at least what they're putting out makes me believe they give a damn about wrestling. WWE hasn't looked as inspired and spontaneous in 10+ years.
I grew up during the Attitude Era and watched the WWE up until 2015. There are good moments (the Broken Matt Hardy vs. Bray Wyatt beef was cool) but it isn't the same anymore. Not even close.
@@richardsinclair7661 havent watched every aew show but its lit. Feels like attitude era wrestling. Wwe is missing what made it great.
@@filliphulles2867 I wouldn't say it's 'quite' as good as Attitude Era wrestling, but it's still very good. It doesn't feel squeaky clean like WWE does, and there's some really technical and inventive wrestling going on.
My favorite part of the entire thing is that you still get to see cool matches on the weekly show, instead of all of the cool stuff being in pay-per-views. Also, it's nice to have quarterly pay-per-views instead of monthly. Gives more time for storylines to build, and feels more dramatic.
everything in wrestling as a whole is lacking:
Corny acting.
lack of alpha male characters.
Entrance music doesn't match the characters (and overall sucks).
Mood of the lighting doesn't match.
poor bookings.
lame storylines.
too much botching(especially in the women's division).
no story telling in the actual matches itself. (the one thing that is hugely under-looked!)
Your last point is one of the main reasons why people love NxT/AEW and the indie scene...
Also lack of star power and charisma.
- All heels are cowards
- Scripted promos
- Nobody sells moves
- Lack of tough looking wrestlers.
@@rockthedwaynejohnshon3511 100 percent. Heels are suppose to come across as impossible to beat and to some degree ruthless and intimidating...AEW has a guy called the "spanish god" whos suppose to be a heel...dude, hes a little kid that looks like justin beiber.
i agree on everything you said
I stopped watching when Undertaker streak ended
I wouldn't have minded that much as long as it didn't go to waste.
it was a crap match too. undertaker either faked being tired for the whole time or was tired the whole time. he should've lost the match a lot better. the dude was a legend.
I stopped when hbk retired
Karl Beerman yeah but he had a concussion during the fight
Karl Beerman which is probably why he looked tired the whole time. He was struggling to stand that concussion really fucked him up
got into watching wrestling religiously towards the tail end of Attitude and beginning of Aggression. Dearly miss the good ol' days. Such a different time. A better time. No filter, just straight entertainment. Am glad I was able to witness some great matches live, which I can still recall some to this day. Social media has also made it less enjoyable, in a sense. I used to just view these wrestlers for who they are in the ring, I didn't know what's going to happen. I didn't know their real names or whatever, but it didn't matter. These old school guys were just absolutely menacing and such a joy to watch the program.
Steve never ages he looks phenomenal, the size of them guns 💪
I can't believe it. He's literally the size of The Hulk!
The wonders of performance enhancing drugs!
illusioNery don’t be silly dude
polyblank where in my post did I say steroids...point and show me where I said that, you fucktard
whats missing?
1. talent
2. pyro
3. back stage brawls
4. creative control
5. muscles
6. aesthetically pleasing titles
7. titles with prestige
8. blood
9. swearing
10. shoots
11. sexuality
12. high risk maneuvers
13. storylines
14. masculine wrestlers
15. wrestlers with attitude/charisma
16. rowdy crowds
17. believability
AEW only has a problem with storylines and muscles right now. they also lack believability... but i think the storylines will pick up... i doubt they ever get any bigger guys or go for more realism.. but they're as close to being perfect as we'l ever see going forward.... WWE is dead
18. NO PG
Where's sexuality in AEW?
kenneth griffin sounds like you’re stuck on the past
Can't take you seriously when you think sexuality is needed to be a good show and also, AEW has a problem with ratings lol, their fans and wrestlers talks more about WWE instead of AEW and when people talks about AEW is when they botched hard and got bad ratings. You may want to think WWE is dead but it's far from it.
You forgot characters
It would be great to hear Stone Cold call a NXT event.
It's missing the feeling of "anything can happen at any time" that old wrestling had
I have been watching wwe for 20 years now and here are things what i find wrong:
1. Too much scripted promos, in one of the interviews kevin nash mentioned how wrestlers are capable but aren't given the freedom.
2. Use of socia media by superstars, i know sounds stupid in this day and age but internet has really killed kayfabe today if i was a wwe superstar i would not probably use it.
3. Too much wrestling, raw-smackdown-nxt-ppv every month, live events gosh it's too much for fans and more for superstars.
Concept of off season should be there but will hurt financially
4. Talented wrestlers with no character depth, merely using catchphrases.
5. No seperate tv time for women, either give them separate weekly show or give them entire 3rd hour of raw
People talking about "today's wrestling"
As far as I can see, it's been lame for 10 years, at least
Yeah at least. Its started plummeting like 2005 2006
@@Macabre124 Goldberg , the Rock , Brock , Stone cold, and Kurt Angle all left around the time frame of 2004 . Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero died... MMA started getting more popular and making pro wrestling look far less legitimate. Vince should have let somebody else buy WcW, then he wasted all the talent that filtered in from WcW in an ego trip..They lost the law suit and had to change their name to wwE (entertainment) which sounded weaker. They completely forgot what worked, and worst of all ,there just aren't any guys like those larger than life dudes from the 80s and 90s anywhere near a ring trying to learn how to wrestle so they could replace the aging ones and there hasn't been for a long long time. The wwe product is UN-watchable and there is no sign even off in the most distant horizon that it will revert back to being as big a part of pop culture as it was. Everybody knows it's fake and these days you can easily see it's fake. The fact that pro wrestling is "a work" is not protected with that honor it had before the mid 90's so it was really just a matter of time before the industry ran out of steam.
@@thejammathon3649 out of all the thousands of comments about this issue of wWE dying, yours explains it all. Perfectly said and sums it up pretty much. I hope everyone sees your comment. And I read hundreds of comment and opinions on this issue
@@Macabre124 I appreciate that fam.
I had hopes when CM Punk was still there.