Jack Marston Became What Arthur and John Always Tried To Avoid 1914 (The Wronged Woman)

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @osborne6282
    @osborne6282 2 месяца назад +470

    I think this mission was made for Jack. Johns bullshit detector was pretty strong

    • @smax._.7022
      @smax._.7022 2 месяца назад +24

      We should respect, love and forgive each other and our Speaking should be an example for others and speak nicely in God's way as the word of God says♥️✝️

    • @nathandogee7018
      @nathandogee7018 2 месяца назад

      Amen ​@@smax._.7022

    • @saintfreezy6914
      @saintfreezy6914 2 месяца назад

      @@smax._.7022🤡

    • @jenfryraphael
      @jenfryraphael 2 месяца назад

      ​@@smax._.7022amén 🙏 i am spanich xd😅

    • @trevorwalsh9443
      @trevorwalsh9443 2 месяца назад

      @@smax._.7022Dude stfu this game has nothing to do with religion or God if anything we will be in hell and is going to hell because were playing games like this.

  • @Tvujedward
    @Tvujedward 2 месяца назад +294

    3:37 sounds like arthur shouting LENNY! :D

  • @BRNardy
    @BRNardy 2 месяца назад +355

    After deeply caring for his 4-year-old version in RDR2, it feels so weird seeing someone challenge Jack to a duel and no one being there to protect him because he's all alone
    But then you remember he's now an adult and he grew into a gunslinger that can very well defend himself, which makes it feel even weirder

    • @splashnskillz37
      @splashnskillz37 2 месяца назад +31

      Not a gunslinger, THE GUNSLINGER of the west at that time, the best around and latest of a generational line of gunslingers

    • @BRNardy
      @BRNardy 2 месяца назад +5

      @@splashnskillz37 Oh yes

    • @amartyapandit
      @amartyapandit 2 месяца назад +19

      He went to take on a grizzly bear alone at the age 16 and off camera might have even tried to square up with the bear considering the scar
      The way I see it Jack has guts almost as much as the rest of the gang considering his dad got the scar from wolves which was embarrassing
      He’s still a kid from the 1800s they were all built different he can handle some petty drunks

    • @BRNardy
      @BRNardy 2 месяца назад +4

      @@amartyapandit Yes, he definitely can, and with ease! My point is that, since his 4-year-old self definitely couldn't protect himself in RDR2, for a moment our feelings conflict and we forget that he is now a very skilled gunslinger

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 2 месяца назад

      @@splashnskillz37 Where is that ever said or indicated? Adult Jack's story canonically consists of only mission.

  • @john236613
    @john236613 2 месяца назад +266

    I like this sequence. He finally begins to realize that the "Outlaw" life from what he remembers and put together from his books has a darker side that he was sheltered from before. At least, that's what I interpret from the look on his face toward the end of the clip.

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 2 месяца назад +42

      I think a possibly important distinction is that 1899 Jack doesn't say he wants to be an outlaw, but a gunslinger. The outlaw life is generally all "dark" as it involves harming others for selfish gain. A gunslinger can be an adventurer like the heroes from his penny dreadfuls and it might what he imagined the gang as; a band or gunslingers who go on adventures and get into gunfights with the "actual" baddies.

    • @nicholasheath8995
      @nicholasheath8995 2 месяца назад +1

      @@themadtitan7603I agree

  • @Connor-p4l
    @Connor-p4l 2 месяца назад +117

    Jack messed up thinking he was doing the right thing and had to hold back when he saw how his actions affected people. This makes him and Arthur the most relatable characters

    • @randomspectator8047
      @randomspectator8047 2 месяца назад

      He did the right thing. The drunk at the bar is the most evil person in this scenario

    • @fantastaboygaming7503
      @fantastaboygaming7503 2 месяца назад +19

      @@randomspectator8047indeed it is. He could have clarified to Jack about his side of the story, but instead he challenged him to a duel forcing Jack to not be able to use reason with him. Besides, he still got her pregnant and cheated on his wife, he gambled in his free time instead of spending it with his family. He wasn’t a good man for sure, he knew the dangers of getting into a duel, and has left his own wife a widow with no way to provide for herself.

    • @leetommerson639
      @leetommerson639 Месяц назад +1

      @@fantastaboygaming7503 as much as I gathered Claire was a liar. The widow didn't know her, and thought her a stranger.

    • @lukegibson6044
      @lukegibson6044 7 дней назад

      ​@@fantastaboygaming7503Except he didn't knock her up. Watch the video again, specifically the part with his widow.

    • @fantastaboygaming7503
      @fantastaboygaming7503 6 дней назад

      @@lukegibson6044 to be entirely fair, we can’t trust the words of a gambler or a a adulterous woman, but considering their behaviour this mission was to teach that sometimes both sides of the story are bad.

  • @gentianalila6788
    @gentianalila6788 2 месяца назад +115

    It’s not jacks fault tbh he asked Harold nicely but didn’t know that Clara was scamming him

    • @StaffordGrayman
      @StaffordGrayman Месяц назад +1

      He didn't have to accept the dual, he could have left it

  • @jasperdreamer9342
    @jasperdreamer9342 2 месяца назад +147

    0:30 Jack marston is a true gentleman you gotta admit

    • @Bread_sigma
      @Bread_sigma 2 месяца назад

      If you have high honor but when he talks to women with low honor he tries to have sex with them

  • @mattfugate9029
    @mattfugate9029 2 месяца назад +121

    Jack Marston: Grew up with a gang full of killers and thieves even if they are "oh such good people" cause they have High Honor literally got kidnapped due to the gangs scheming and watched his father die from his past choices. Jack becomes the exact same thing as he grew up around his whole life.
    Everyone: Surprised Pikachu Face

    • @georgeterpsidis8143
      @georgeterpsidis8143 Месяц назад +2

      LoL he didn't become "the exact same thing" if he lives his life with honor, he could just be a drifter

    • @mattfugate9029
      @mattfugate9029 Месяц назад +2

      @@georgeterpsidis8143 High honor doesn't mean he's not a criminal same with Arthur high honor doesn't mean he didn't do terrible things just cause you say "hello mister" to an entire town doesn't somehow mean you didn't shoot it up at some point during the story

    • @mattfugate9029
      @mattfugate9029 Месяц назад +1

      @@georgeterpsidis8143 He also killed off Agent Ross instead of leaving him alone so he is "the exact same thing" if he would've left Ross alone he would've been different

    • @georgeterpsidis8143
      @georgeterpsidis8143 Месяц назад +1

      @@mattfugate9029 Not even close, Ross had it coming and was dirty af, killing over the border in Mexico means that Jack is clean

    • @mattfugate9029
      @mattfugate9029 Месяц назад

      @@georgeterpsidis8143 Lol No it doesn't a crime is still a crime regardless of where it is and as for Agent Ross whether dirty or not it's still a crime whether Marston was in the right or not Jack had every shot to just leave him alone like John told him ya know the line Arthur told John "Leave and don't look back" which is exactly what they should've done but lets disregard that cause they have High Honor lol

  • @nathandogee7018
    @nathandogee7018 2 месяца назад +67

    3:35 DID I HEAR SOMEONE WHO SOUNDS LIKE ARTHUR SAY LENNY!?

  • @belalovell
    @belalovell 2 месяца назад +111

    Clara is Pure Evil

    • @randomspectator8047
      @randomspectator8047 2 месяца назад

      Ha, she was manipulated and abused. You're a fool if you thought the mister was a good man

    • @GabrielPalomino.
      @GabrielPalomino. 2 месяца назад +8

      The world is a sad and terrible place

    • @belalovell
      @belalovell 2 месяца назад +6

      @@GabrielPalomino. Harold's Mother (Elizabeth Thornton) Says the 1# Fact about the Real World and she is right about what she say😞

  • @CAPTAIN_TERMINOTERROR
    @CAPTAIN_TERMINOTERROR 2 месяца назад +53

    3:38 Am i the only one who heard "LENNY" WITH ARTHUR'S VOICE!?😂

    • @Wayofswords
      @Wayofswords 2 месяца назад +2

      No you are not

    • @TheSeptacle
      @TheSeptacle Месяц назад +3

      Maybe somebody was saying medic. Still, it does kind of sound like Lenny.😂

    • @ProcyonDei
      @ProcyonDei Месяц назад +2

      👻

  • @Dcll8451
    @Dcll8451 2 месяца назад +18

    Wow it says on his grave stone the “the truth shall make you free” which is in line with the rdr2 and rdr1 missions

  • @katiacritten9975
    @katiacritten9975 2 месяца назад +27

    I'd love to see a RDR3 that takes place in the 1920s. Story could be about Jack trying to escape the life of crime and violence. The 1920s having left the old west behind whilst still having outlaw gangs and stuff like that would be a great metaphor for Jack

    • @AnakinSkywakka
      @AnakinSkywakka Месяц назад +3

      I know this gets brought up alot, but I'd like to imagine Jack was drafted into fighting in WW1. Perhaps he was arrested and given the option to either enlist or serve.

  • @libertyisland6950
    @libertyisland6950 2 месяца назад +36

    I didn't paid much attention to your profile pic
    Arthur with that jacket reminded me of Rick Grimes

    • @trevthekidd
      @trevthekidd 2 месяца назад

      Micah: *_Black lung_*
      Arthur's murder coat: *_Kill. Now_*

  • @isaiahmontoya8795
    @isaiahmontoya8795 Месяц назад +8

    Jack is the only member left living from the gang 😢….. maybe saddie and Charles too but idk

    • @ozfifer7392
      @ozfifer7392 Месяц назад +1

      Nah, Sadie got the TB, but Charles? I don't know about him.

    • @0902_
      @0902_ 13 дней назад +1

      Even if Sadie lived she was similar to Jack.With no one and nothing, just bounty hunting out of pure bloodlust.Charles, Tilly, Pearson, Mary-Beth and Trelawny are still alive however.If it sounds cool to you he might have visited them at some point but I doubt he even remembers them cause he was 4 so they were not there for most of his life and probably he couldn't even track them even if he wanted to

  • @themadtitan7603
    @themadtitan7603 2 месяца назад +28

    Sure, John would've wanted Jack working an honest job and not getting into duels, but he still did it to help who he thought was a desperate woman and only after being challenged into one. Which if anything, shows the decent values John instilled in Jack; not that he turned out to be some terrible criminal the way these titles makes him out to be.
    And as always, it's important to note that we don't know anything Jack canonically does beyond "Remember My Family" as all these side quests can be done as John too.

    • @Snake_eyes0
      @Snake_eyes0 8 дней назад +1

      Ngl is feels right doing all these side quests as Jack since John's main priority is doing everything he has to do to get his family back.

  • @TheSeptacle
    @TheSeptacle Месяц назад +5

    I tried so hard to disarm Harold without killing him. So hard. I spent more than an hour on that stupid duel. Ah well. He wasn’t a great guy anyway.

  • @FunnyRedemption
    @FunnyRedemption 2 месяца назад +70

    Rdr3 should be about Jack in the last few years or year of the wild west, and have him to hunt all of the last notorious outlaws from America. They could most likely add some bs to the game for Jack to have some sort of redemption, or maybe make him help people to receive their redemption.

    • @Sacerdotedelagutisecta
      @Sacerdotedelagutisecta 2 месяца назад +14

      I would like to see Jack hunting the other outlaws, but if we get a RDR 3 some day it will be most likely a prequel... It doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to see Jack in the WW1 but it doesn't make sense with the savage west ambient.

    • @Monkeyamingus777
      @Monkeyamingus777 2 месяца назад

      I am back
      BTW That wouldn't work very well
      Most people want a late 1870s setting from what I have seen

    • @tedor7988
      @tedor7988 2 месяца назад

      no rdr3 should be a prequel, no way are they extending the wild west into world war 1

    • @FunnyRedemption
      @FunnyRedemption 2 месяца назад +3

      @@tedor7988 There's no point for another prequel.

    • @k4isxn
      @k4isxn 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@tedor7988 there's no point for another prequel, Arthur's life was pretty much cleared up and how he joined the gang etc, aswell as Dutch and hosea and the other gang members. The Blackwater massacre also wouldn't make sense as everything is cleared up at the end.

  • @GabrielPalomino.
    @GabrielPalomino. 2 месяца назад +5

    Everyone talking about the video everyone else “LENNNY” 🤣

  • @PainUzumaki4
    @PainUzumaki4 2 месяца назад +17

    3:37 ARTHUR????

    • @J2_Jay
      @J2_Jay Месяц назад +2

      I thought I heard Arthur say "LENNAYYYYYY" 😂

  • @Mr.Napalm
    @Mr.Napalm 2 месяца назад +28

    This is, red dead redemption 3.

  • @Ki11Stati0n-w2w
    @Ki11Stati0n-w2w Месяц назад +4

    Rdr3 should start with Jacks last few days

  • @Aureus_
    @Aureus_ 2 месяца назад +7

    Why is everyone surprised about how he turned out? he has nobody and grew up in a gang of killers.

  • @FreeAimDog
    @FreeAimDog 2 месяца назад +6

    it sucks rockstar decided to not all new servers to the newer ports of the game, i honestly liked 1s online more than 2s i remember a mexican stand off always happening for some reason before going into a death match then in friendly free roam you just sit in the military base and you and the other players take on the mexican army.

  • @eambriz86
    @eambriz86 2 месяца назад +14

    I’m surprised he didn’t get drafted to ww1. Would make an excellent way to start the next red dead redemption

    • @thepoet9253
      @thepoet9253 Месяц назад +2

      Well you wouldn't know yet as the US didn't enter the war until 1917 and the epilogue takes place in 1914. They left the door open.

  • @TheGreatLordDIO
    @TheGreatLordDIO Месяц назад +8

    I dunno man but I love Jack Marston.
    It's one of the last outlaws, he's got this huge history, even being a part of the legendary Van Der Linde gang and knowing them personally (even at a young age). Then his parents try to live normally and teach him that this is a proper way to live. Him being 'that quiet kid' all the time, just reading books, he thinks it's just like in the novels. But then when his father dies he's faced with the real world consequences of a life like that. But despite this he just can't let it go and kills Ross becoming an actual outlaw (now he's gonna be wanted because he was asking around blackwater about Ross and moments later Ross dies).
    And the fact that in the end not only did he fail to live up to all the lessons from his parents but he's become the very thing they didn't want for him is kinda refreshing. There's no happy ending, consequences matter. It's like everyone's trapped in that cycle. Only worse thing is that he's all alone, the lone ranger full of sadness, anger, doubts, sentiments.
    Which is why doing side missions as Jack is so much better. Not only does it provide some story to him, but it also shows him in action.
    Would love to see a dlc about his future, not some crappy undead nightmare

    • @yasininn76
      @yasininn76 Месяц назад +3

      Lmao, "crappy undead nightmare" as if that dlc wasn't beloved by the whole community. Never heard a worse take

    • @TheGreatLordDIO
      @TheGreatLordDIO Месяц назад +1

      @@yasininn76 It's shitty. The gameplay is repetative, the story is crap. Instead of that I'd prefer to see some actual canon dlc for Jack, or even John. But nah, undead nightmare feels like some fanfic mod, one of the most useless dlc's I've ever encountered. The only thing "cool" about it is the atmosphere. Other than that it just shits all over the characters, Uncle casually killed and no regrets after that, no actual development for any characters in fact. Yay such an amazing content...

    • @justinportillo3996
      @justinportillo3996 Месяц назад

      @@TheGreatLordDIOthe story isn’t supposed to be taken seriously, it’s obviously supposed to be satire and making fun of the zombie trend that was happening in the early 2010s

    • @TheGreatLordDIO
      @TheGreatLordDIO Месяц назад

      @@justinportillo3996 Sure but was this "satire" worth making an entire dlc rather than making some actual additional canon content that could expand on these characters?

    • @justinportillo3996
      @justinportillo3996 Месяц назад

      @@TheGreatLordDIO me personally I like it, especially after rdr2. In fact I like it more that we don’t get more information about the gang, Blackwater massacre it makes us the players to use our brains for once and connect the puzzle together on what happened and how it began

  • @BornRanger
    @BornRanger 2 месяца назад +8

    But wait, the wife says she's a stranger, does that actually mean the woman wasn't really their nanny?

  • @trevorwalsh9443
    @trevorwalsh9443 2 месяца назад +2

    What children see Children do this was bound to happen anyway.

  • @hobeone1192
    @hobeone1192 2 месяца назад +4

    I hope there becomes an Alt timeline where Arthur lives..

  • @ChrisisCroissant
    @ChrisisCroissant 2 месяца назад +9

    I'm curious as to what it would be like if Rockstar studio made another RDR game
    I think they never planned ahead of RDR1, since in that game the most recent year is 1911, you could argue that it's outside the wild west era
    In RDR2, they likely had to compromise because making a game after 1911 would not have been a wild west game, so they dialed it back a bit to 1899, but we still reached 1907
    What would RDR3 include?
    Since the late part of the era is done. It would either be:
    Move back to the past even more, which would sadly remove much of the intrigue from seeing the different ways of life brought by industrialisation and new tech that made RDR2 fun.
    Or
    Move past 1911, likely towards WW1, possibly prohibition, which is definitely after the end of the wild west and thus makes for a confusing trilogy timeline
    I'd be reaaaaaly intrigued if i one day saw the era it would be in

    • @lee-oe7rr
      @lee-oe7rr 2 месяца назад +3

      I think they did say rdr3 is gonna be in the more industrial age but of corse they gonna release rdr1 remake first

    • @ChrisisCroissant
      @ChrisisCroissant 2 месяца назад +2

      @@lee-oe7rr
      Can't wait to have a shit ton of mods in the remake so I can shoot *500 cigar-* musket shots per second
      Edit: Imagine the wild west franchise set like a dozen of years after it's end, I'm very very curious

    • @crazychase98
      @crazychase98 Месяц назад

      Officially the west died sometime in 1920

    • @thepoet9253
      @thepoet9253 Месяц назад +1

      Actually, the end of the wild west can be considered to have come with the end of the Indian Wars in 1924. There's still space to do some dying west days in the 1920s. Personally, the South-East or North East within prohibition would be more of an intrigue to me though.

    • @ChrisisCroissant
      @ChrisisCroissant Месяц назад

      @@thepoet9253Ooooh, that's actually quite interesting to know, though i still think i remember the wild west era ending around 1912 though, because i'm 90% sure the wild west ended before WW1 started

  • @danim8414
    @danim8414 2 месяца назад +86

    Typical group project L

    • @6nfreeke
      @6nfreeke 2 месяца назад

      you're not funny 💀

    • @danim8414
      @danim8414 2 месяца назад

      @@6nfreeke your pfp isn’t funny 💀

    • @6nfreeke
      @6nfreeke 2 месяца назад +1

      @@danim8414 i didnt put it to be funny but okay ,,,

    • @danim8414
      @danim8414 2 месяца назад +1

      @@6nfreeke Sure Buddy

    • @6nfreeke
      @6nfreeke 2 месяца назад +1

      @@danim8414 i just love jesse 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ also what does my pfp have to do with this

  • @marstonzi
    @marstonzi Месяц назад

    I love how Jack turned exactly like John "I'll see what I can do"

  • @brainethrivera1489
    @brainethrivera1489 2 месяца назад +14

    I quite didnt understeand, what was the problem with jack?

    • @x-mensangel3567
      @x-mensangel3567 2 месяца назад +9

      Same here. I don’t understand the title at all. John and Arthur would want Jack to help people in any way possible.

    • @XenoZbornak
      @XenoZbornak 2 месяца назад +39

      He isn't a peaceful rancher or a prosecutor, or a banker. He turned into a rough gunslinger with little If any regard for his future. That was what John hopped to avoid.

  • @Bosshoss69
    @Bosshoss69 2 месяца назад +2

    I played this game when I was very young was my favorite game I’ve lost it and can’t remember most missions I’ll have to watch the full play through

  • @All_Seeing_Knap
    @All_Seeing_Knap Месяц назад

    I love Jack. One of my favourite characters in the franchise yet I can't exactly pin point why.

  • @Uncleharkinian
    @Uncleharkinian Месяц назад

    So like, RDR 3 jack marston?
    1915-1920, talks about jack coping with the reality of what Arthur and John hid from him, wile he tries to fight his nature,
    good ending he gets away and writes that novel we see in GTA 4
    Bad ending he pays for his revenge he had exacted on Ross

  • @JorgeF69
    @JorgeF69 Месяц назад +2

    Wait so who's clara then and why did she have the guy killed?🫠

  • @robevans8629
    @robevans8629 Месяц назад

    Best bet Jack would of had for a new life was join the army and find a new beginning in WW1, maybe he survives, gets a GI bill and settles down and writes his books.

  • @PinkPotatoChip
    @PinkPotatoChip 2 месяца назад +2

    How do you get this with Jack? I've seen videos of John doing this mission. I thought you only play Jack at the end when he gets revenge for what happened to his dad.

    • @AshwinY
      @AshwinY  2 месяца назад +3

      Don't do the stranger mission as john

  • @cor-vo5yd
    @cor-vo5yd 2 месяца назад +1

    What if only shoots his hand?

    • @davidjacobs7465
      @davidjacobs7465 Месяц назад +1

      I tried that the first time and the result of it is always that you lose and die.

  • @Baconman212
    @Baconman212 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh my god I get it

  • @FastBreak-xn2yh
    @FastBreak-xn2yh 2 месяца назад +1

    Was there a chance you could’ve disarmed him during the duel?

    • @AshwinY
      @AshwinY  2 месяца назад

      Yes I think idk lol

  • @Ibbi1109
    @Ibbi1109 2 месяца назад +5

    Yo thanks for the pin

  • @howyoudurrinhunneh
    @howyoudurrinhunneh 2 месяца назад

    Thats terrible writing and voice acting 😂

    • @lixyt906
      @lixyt906 2 месяца назад +19

      Avg GTA online hater

    • @M3TAH34D
      @M3TAH34D 2 месяца назад +9

      Poeple are able to hate anything nowadays...

    • @howyoudurrinhunneh
      @howyoudurrinhunneh 2 месяца назад

      @@lixyt906 I'm not even sure what those letters mean

    • @howyoudurrinhunneh
      @howyoudurrinhunneh 2 месяца назад

      @M3TAH34D
      Yes, poeple can.
      I never played one, but I have played 24 thousands of hours and this was painful to watch.

    • @EdwardoNuttbuster
      @EdwardoNuttbuster 2 месяца назад +3

      @@howyoudurrinhunnehpoeple

  • @Uncleharkinian
    @Uncleharkinian Месяц назад

    So like, RDR 3 jack marston?
    1915-1920, talks about jack coping with the reality of what Arthur and John hid from him, wile he tried to fight his nature, good ending he gets away and writes that novel we see in GTA 4
    Bad ending he pays for his revenge he had exacted on Ross