SDTM: 2024 Pinball Review: The Best & The Worst
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- SDTM: 2024 Pinball Review: The Best & The Worst
SDTM Greg & Zach review the highs and lows of pinball in 2024!
Strong takes, great moments, always SDTM...
COMMENT ON YOUR BEST AND WORST OF PINBALL IN 2024
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#2025
Missed the dynamic duo! Happy New Year SDTM!
We missed YOU G Money! Wait until you see what we have next :)
Its so great having you two and your fun videos back! Keep being yourselves and thanks for being there for the pinball community!
We are not going anywhere and sometimes in a field of negativity, someone needs to be excited and informed about pinball. We are so pumped to show yall 2025 pinball.
Welcome back, bout time
Thank you! We are working on making more time for SDTM! I think we have missed it as much as fans
I wonder if either of them is capable of finishing a sentence without the other starting one
Dang. Just tried interrupting your comment, but it doesn’t work like that here.
Great Recap guys. Love the way you went all through the year. We are living in great times for pinball.
We're having a blast! And very much agree
Finally you guys are back with an hour long video none the less. Can’t wait to watch it! Always enjoy your videos.
We can’t wait to see you watching us! …maybe that’s not how that works…
I'm glad to see your videos- i hope you guys make more this year. It's always a great time!!
Another coming right behind it :)
Love that you guys are back. Every time i watch ya'll together...i cant help but smile. I can't wait for what's in store for the rest of the year.
2025 or bust :) Gonna be great! Appreciate your support buddy.
Thanks fellas! I’m new to the hobby and been loving your old videos, great to see a fresh one 🍻
We are glad you’re here! Cheers
All hope was lost when the words "i prefer john wick over x-men" were uttered. LOL ;)
Hahahaha right?!?! (Zach)
140 million on wick. Premium. Low scoring game.hard and lightning fast.. Jaws premium is awesome still learning game.767 million trying to get to 1 billion. Uncanny X-men 250 million, complete 2 missions to light extra ball right hand side lower in lane.shoot far right ramp will work. Pulp fiction great game 16.5 million you need to look at back glass score seven digits 6.500,001 the 1 will flash at first digit. Pinball hasgotten so awesome . I’ve seen the progression through out the years. 20 years from now will be even better 😊
Bought 3 games from you this year. Great to deal with.
Wow! Thank you so very much merc
Yeeeaah SDTM video, let's fudging GOOOOO!!!
I would say as far as warranty having had problems with both JJPs and stern, they will give you what you need long after warranty expiration. Both good companies.
Good to see you guys! More frequent vids please
Thanks! That’s the goal.
This was fantastic we all have missed you guys. I hope you guys do more shows this year. 👍👍
Thanks! We hope to find a good way to make that happen.
Yeah boy ! Zach and G-Bone holding it down ! Nice job guys , always enjoy your videos and sense of humor . The spooky videos you guys did for Evil Dead were awesome. Nice work 👍🏼
Thanks Jesse! Appreciate you still getting pumped up like us!
Love you guys, keep up the great work you're a true asset to the pinball community really enjoy your videos
Thanks! And thanks for the, what do the dumb kids say nowadays?, drip? Smh, idiots.
I'll tell you this much: Jack Danger is quickly becoming my new favorite pin designer. Foo Fighters has been one of my all-time favorites since day one, and while I was initially skeptical about X-Men, it's very quickly grown on me - just a couple more code updates, and it'll be up there right alongside Foo. His games have some of the smoothest and most unique flow I've ever seen, and the theme integration is simply top-notch. I know pinball snobs will yammer on and on about their sacred cow Keith Elwin and how his games have "competitive quality", but if you're looking for a game that's just downright _fun,_ Danger can't be beat.
Dude.....support from Stern? THE BEST!! They sent me a switch for a Ghostbusters that was like 2 years old.
Love hearing that
TCM is the creepiest movie I've ever seen. I just cant imagine owning a pinball of it.
+1 on Full Throttle! It's basically the new Top Gear.
Jaws is fantastic. Couldn’t stop playing the Elton John game at the expo.
You need to get Greg a Pin Monk fan for that Stern JP.
Never saw these before but the algorithm brought me in. Fun video and I completely agree on Jaws. It's just a fun table you can walk up to, keep a ball alive, and maybe even put up a decent score.
Hot damn, YAY for algorithm haha. Thanks for stopping by bud
Thumbs up on the manufacturer’s tours.
Sad to see that Turner pinball with Ninja Eclipse only got a cautionary shout-out.
Not a NIB buyer, but I would argue they that came fully around from last year, listened to all feedback and sold the best bang4buck machine. The fact that they are so transparent and willing to adjust makes me very positive about their future.
Also, looking at what you get for the same price as a Stern Pro, Ninja Eclipse looks totally worth it's money and then some. Fun layout, good code, nice art and some awesome features.
The only thing is, they are new in the scene. That precaution is fair, but that does not diminish how awesome their first machine seems considering the MSRP.
Absolutely. So much so that I am a dealer of theirs (Flip N Out Pinball). We believe in them and put our money where our mouth is. I just think it’s fair to pump the breaks a bit because they are nowhere near the manufacturing prowess of other manufacturers that have been doing this for a decade or longer.
@@SDTM You as a distributor might have a less 'tinted glass' view compared to me as a hobbyist, haha! Let's hope they prove themselves, Ninja Eclipse looks like a lot of fun.
It's not intentional. But I really hope that stern continues a pattern with Uncanny Xmen, Metalica, and now DnD.
New games with lots of unique layouts and newer complex rule set ideas. Then in between re release an older game. Keeping sort of a foot on new untested ideas and another re-releasing 20 year old classics.
I'd go insane if we get a Simpsons Pinball Party remake after DnD
Agreed! Unique stuff lately
This was the best and longest ad for a company I’ve ever seen! #sponsored #flipnout
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@ X-men
GASP! Another Wick fan or X-Men hater, or neither… or both?! Haha
@ neither? it’s the speed, buttery smoothness of everything, and the sounds the game makes (music and effects). Some of the most satisfying ramps/ramp combos ever designed. I like the enemy thing too. Feels like im shooting stuff and I like shooting stuff
X-men might just be too different for me for location play, maybe I need it at home. The way it drains is not normal and it pisses me off. The modes and theme and voices and lcd are just so incredibly generic. I’m not smiling and dancing and having fun while being mad at myself for sucking like I’m used to. I’m mad at the game for being so weird. Also possibly the most set up dependent game ever. Balls flying off wire forms, bad one way gates, balls moonwalking all over the place, clunkiness galore, shots back handable on some copies but not others, terrible flipper hop on the left flipper on some, danger room entrance variation to get used too. Nothing but love for Jack for the clever design and risks Stern took but in hindsight it might just be a bit too much for me.
Great episode. Lotta fun!
Thanks! Cant wait to release the next one
I played Jaws and it was surprisingly good to me after I found out you don't shoot the ball in the sharks mouth. I mean... you want to shoot the ball in the sharks mouth and have the sharks head explode and see the end of that scene from the movie. I mean... its pretty hard to get over that they denied us that experience.
Enjoyed the video, found the noisy power supply distracting. Kept reminding me of when my power supplies would make all their noise when trying to work. I recommend installing the replacement quiet fan kit.
Appreciate you watching
The biggest problem with X-men, is the left flipper ball hop. It is really bad and actually does mess-up the game play. It's not something easily dismissed like a bad plunge because it affects half the shots. For some reason, it is largely being ignored.
…and it doesn’t seem to affect every machine. I have played quite a few examples and not all have the problem. There must be some variation in assembly that causes it.
@@user-xw6cr4pu9m It's just a simple adjustment away from being a non-issue. The fix is out there if people look for it.
Agrée, super annoying and this comes from the height of the metal bar: it varies from game to game how deep it is inserted within the playfield and playing around with how deep it is fixes the issue partly, but the way to make it move is super dangerous for the playfield as you can damage the art should you pull too much on the bar and make it completely exit the holes. Go on it super gently and that will make it happen. A guy did a quick RUclips video on that and I did it on mine.
biggest problem for me is the entire playfield just seems like some gimmicky upper playfield. every shot didnt need to be some weird transfer loop shot
The silence after bringing up BBQ 😂😅🤣
Couldn’t edit it out
“They got a FIVER guy to do the artwork”!! 😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣
;)
I want to like the John Wick machine so bad but its so hard to like. Maybe I should actually watch the John Wick movies. What do yall think about that machine? To me its frustratingly difficult and kind of plain looking.
Watching the films is a recommendation. First one is great and the others are good
John Wick without a gun mech is like Jurassic Park with no dinosaurs, bad theme integration. When you don't give your target audience what they wanted you have failed. No need to be angry with them.
Well that's why you install the gun mod where you attatch an actual gun to the machine and everytime you drain the gun goes off
@@BeeB0y42cornball
Do you's guys have two small beds or one big one?
Why, you wanna bunk up sicko?
Greg likes JP The Lost World so I already have mad respect for his picks.
Precisely
Dear god gents, post more content. Just the best.
Ahhhh shucks. We hope to
Evil Dead: More Guns than John fricking Wick...
The car company discussion at the end was great 😂
Yeah that’s just an example of our daily phone calls.
LMAO at BO BBQ "never should have got past the sh1tt3r thought phase" 🤣
Those shitter thoughts are hit n miss
Thank you for your video. Love them and also keeping the faith that Uncanny X-Men code will continue to mature. This game has so much potential. I hope they also continue to add more animations. What a great game! Sorry Mr. Wick, your contract has been terminated by Professor X! That would be a great movie too!
Another year without a Dragon Ball Z themed table. Why isn't anyone making any anime themed tables?
Interesting theme. I wonder if it would do well in pinball.
SDTM is the Best Pinball Show on all the Interzones.
*FIGHT ME!!!*
How’s bout a hug? :)
Does Flip N Out pinball sell demo pins with a few plays (200-300)?
Absolutely
That Lost World JP in the back… snagger mech working?
The snagger does but the drop won’t drop to allow it to work. A wire came off and I think it fried a transistor!!!! I need to get around to fixing it (greg)
It would be hard for me to justify buying a single premium pinball machine. I can't imagine the people that can collect these things. I wish I could, because these machines are so awesome.
It’s an awesome hobby and we hope to show off our own collections in upcoming videos
@@SDTM my dad has 3 machines and I love visiting. One day, I’ll get my own :)
Love the tour idea - please do that! ❤
One channel where it’s dudes talking about it and not a bunch of nerdy fruits. Praise baby Jesus Ricky Bobby
Don’t forget his golden-fleeced diaper
Love this show. Buying my next game from these guys.
Hot damn, that would be amazing! And we will show you why we aim to maintain your business over time.
Remakes will never really affect my decision on buying an original, especially after owning both. Remakes are definitely overpriced. They should never be worth more than an OG, but nothing about this hobby makes sense.
🤩🤩
Right back at cha
Totally agree with the over reaction comments. Jaws is great even if it doesn't eat the ball, John Wick deserves more credit for being a super fun shooter (though the code is still lacking modes), and we love Uncanny X-Men!
Can’t love this comment enough. Glad you can enjoy pinball like us.
Great Video - How about a remake of Batman 66? They also need to make more Star Wars toppers - only having 500 available for the thousands of machines sold is missing out on the market.
Would love to see more Batman
First game I ever buy from Flip n out = game of the year. Made the right call! 👍
YES! Thanks for the love
Speaking of the support at Stern:
I gotsta give *_Best Tech Support Guy_* of 2024 to Tim Morrison over at Stern. Dude is a champion! 🏆 🤘👍😮💨
Whirlwind 2.0! Let's get it ❤
Oh boy
Evil Dead has to be my grail pin. Can't wait to buy that game.
Soooo damn cool. Cant wait to get our hands on that one maybe this month :)
Great Video but damn those PSU FAN's! I kept looking over at my machines going (I thought i turned them off)
We got them tricks
The Guns Gate is so stupid.
Stern will need spike 3 before they catch JJP on display and animation. However, Stern’s shoot so much better from top to bottom. I haven’t had a shot at Elton or Avatar, but having owned a Gnr, dialed in and Toy Story, I need to play the Steve Ritchie flippers before I buy another JJP.
Yeah I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised when you get your hands on an Elton
Ok, y’all talking about X-men hand, how many shots on JP premium that hit the Trex right in the mouth don’t get caught like they should? And that game is phenomenal as we all know.
Good point there
Exactly or Stranger Things Premium ball lock. That is still by far my most frustrating shot. X-Men is a gem of a machine. One of the best shooting machines I've ever played imo. Helps I love the theme.
Keep em coming❤
That’s the plan, thanks for the continued love and support
What a treat! These guys are the Siskel & Ebert of pinball. That’s a compliment, thanks guys for all your hard work providing such great content 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks bud!
Thank you!!!!
No no, thank YOU
Gregs moustache is driving me insane. ONE SIDE LOOKS GREAT!
The bone dropping knowledge.
Some passion bombs there.
I would love to hear more about your need for film help. Hit me back!
I'm very excited for what I believe will be the Spike 3 debut with a May King Kong from Elwin. That's a site unseen buy on an LE right there. Jaws is incredible. Love that machine. And the Metallica Remastered LE is awesome. Love mine. My buddy has the premium and I would say the backglass is not great. He did an aftermarket one and it looks much better.
We are pumped as well
BBQ was actually not a bad game. It had a late 1980’s PF vibe but the theme fell flat. I enjoyed playing it at a show but I’d never buy one. And like GTF, too expensive for what you get. Tho, much respect for Barry.
My vote is for Jaws too!
Let's Kick This Shit! Damn Greg thinks $1,000 topper is a good deal now and would rather have TCM over Looney Tunes. I remeber when Greg couldn't own a Stargate because backglass scared him. LOl. For some reason I think I want a Subaru now?
Hahahahahahaha
Subarus kick ass, the new wilderness editions are great if you’re into the outdoors
i for one, liked the artwork on alice.....
Art is subjective so we are glad there are some fans
THE COMMUNITY
“We’re sick of all these superhero and movie themed pins, give us something original!!”
MANUFACTURERS
“We’ve got a disaster themed machine”
“We have a 50’s scifi-ish one”
“And we have a fun BBQ one coming”
THE COMMUNITY
“We’re not buying these stupid themes”
And that's why I actually like Tank Force and BBQ lol.
I think that was “The Community” of pinball in the 2000s. Pinball in 2025 the majority want recognizable and nostalgic, adored licensed properties.
@@whompetgaming3881 Only thing with tank force is they tried for that b-movie camp but it comes off as people trying to act as b-movie camp. It’s a bad attempt at trying to be corny. Otherwise every other thing they tried to do was spot on.
That Alice stick was funny
Oopsie
Throttle House, not Full Throttle :) But yeah they're awesome.
Great vid guys!
Damn! Yup, Throttle House.
Greg and Zach inspire me to be a better man 🫡
Atta boy
X-men reminds of Radical, the shots are so satisfying, I’m a huge fan! awesome episode, I really enjoyed this
Really really great comparison there! And one of my top two favorite System 11 games (Zach)
Oh hell yeah. Watching this with the wife tonight.
Oh behave…
X-men and Avatar are some of the most beautiful boring games ever produced. That Metallica topper is so lazy what a money grab. I think Evil Dead will surprise everyone.
Whatcha liking from 2024?
@ bought a 007 Bond LE got it NIB for hella of a deal. Enjoying that one. Not really interested anything that was released in 2024, played all of them at past expo. Hopefully this year will be better.
I loved the lay out of xmen and the ideas felt so fresh. But man uncanny xmen is just missing something and I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the code
Yeah maybe having the modes be started immediately after the first shot. I'm not a fan of the shoot any three shots to start a mode codes. That's what I think ruins the code for me lol.
@@whompetgaming3881 it should make you shoot different shots to start modes like it does for the 7th and 8th mode. Spamming midtown is safe and I’ll do it evertime if they don’t force me to take more dangerous shots.
@@whompetgaming3881 Honestly, i feel like modes start too quick
Gotta love Greg keeping it real. Why do I love toppers and the price now? Because I sell them for Flipnout 😂 Great to see you guys back, hope to see more in 2025!
Hahaha it’s part of the pinball hobbyist evolution. Everyone goes through their Topper Phase. Some of us stay there :)
Nice !! SDTM rocks
YOU flippin rock!
Wick was the weakest. Jaws is a safe pick for best game of the year. I was certainly turned around on it. It looked barren (and yeah I thought the shark should have eaten the ball), but it is one of those games that is far more fun to play in person than to watch on a video. It’s a real labor of love too with so much more code released over the last several months. Jaws won me over.
Good take
Evil dead is best theme integration
Hard to argue that. We didn’t include Evil Dead in the awards this year because nobody has had the chance to get their hands on it yet.
Honestly... Uncanny X-Men should've gotten Worst Display and Animation. I really hope they touch it up in future code, but as it is now it's noticeably below Stern's usual standard. Calling it Animation in itself is already generous; the majority of scenes are just static images that don't animate but have particle effects on top. Deadpool, Black Knight and Venom had actual animating scenes/pixel art but while I appreciate they tried to do their own work instead of using scenes from the show... I can't help but feel it's lacking in the art department.
100% agree with GOTY pick. Thanks for the video boys! Always love your content.
Jaws is so good!!!
I look forward to this video every year. And I don’t even own a pinball machine lol.
Damn it, THAT is the best compliment! Thank you.
Do you think if BBQ had something of a Tecas Chainsaw Massacre it would have done better? More of a horror meat game than a kids game. I think it would have at least got laughed at less
I played it at expo and found that i actually liked it quite a bit. I was laughing a lot walking up to it looking at it knowing how much guff it got though.
About time
Just for you :)
Jaws is better than X-men, and it’s not close boys.
They better show the dog again
I’ve gotta check that the thing is still alive (Zach)
Gotta be a horse’s ass to drop a grand on a topper, but folks do it.
The argument never goes the other way. Why do you think that is?
Always stoked to see a video, can’t understand why so many people shill out for xmen though - danger must have some wild connections….
The code on xmen is just embarrassing
Us enjoying X-Men may mean that we just actually like the way it shoots. Or maybe we are lying. I’m glad you figured it out for us. :) Thanks for the comment regardless
@ it’s not just you, it’s all the disappointed LE buyers losing three grand in three months. But I just find it interesting how the games that aren’t stacked up to sell can get crapped on, but then when a stern game has baby grade code it’s just not mentioned at all.
Xmen has ATROCIOUS code and it’s embarrassing.
D&D is launching with code that’s MUCH MORE advanced than xmen is at nearly four months AFTER launch.
Just sucks that 98% of the ppl in the hobby are really just trying to sell to the 2%.
Whatever the reasoning, all I know is that I enjoy my LE and look forward to code coming along. We did mention in the video it’s not where it needs to be with code.
@ it was mentioned and talked right over with no elaboration. Just giving a viewers opinion that it seems like xmen is being given a special pass
Can't wait for DnD & Evil Dead to show up, waiting for BoF for my 3rd pinball of 2025. Huge Thanks to Zach @ Flipinout Pinball for everything.
Thank YOU and yeah, 2025 is gonna be bonkers!
Guys, i like your show a lot, big fan. But, Abba=niche? That was the most absurd classification I've ever heard of I thought it was supposed to be satire. Your assumption couldn't be more wrong. I think it's one of the greatest music themes ever made.
We love the ABBA passion! We were talking about the theme being “niche” to pinball. We know how huge the band is worldwide.
Jawls? 😛
My mouth doesn’t work the way it needs to (Zach)
For me the shit on it all you want I don't care - that is my Alien LV for me. I play it more than any other game including 3 new Sterns. GZ,ST,SW
Man, I personally like alien. Some amazing theme integration. I had one for a while. It was just missing the long-term for me. But I keep thinking about getting another one. (Greg)
Let’s kick this 💩 !
@@JK-fv9xk abso-flippin-lutely!!!