Nicely done! Man, I have to sub to a reefer who’s also fellow cad designer. Nice job on that ATO reservoir! Awesome. I run my Avast K1 with Kamoer X1 doser...it’s been real solid so far. Cheers
Pretty dope set up!! I have completed my 50 gallon Saltwater mixing station and installed a #BRS 7 stage RODI system w/ a Booster pump. I am waiting for my Neptune DOS for my AWC's.
Thank you very much! So far I'm really enjoying how this is all working out. Traveling for a couple weeks at a time I need things to operate hands off reliably and so far so good. I haven't done any water changes since i set my tank up but at some point I know that I will start doing them. Neptune makes some great products. Feel free to share your setup, I am always interested in how others approach things as well!
@@RobBzReef , I am going to be doing a 10 part series on my tank thats ready to go up next weekend. Feel free to check out SCA150 build log - www.reef2reef.com/threads/flsharkvictim-custom-rimless-sca-150-build.533545/
@@flreefshark76 just watched the first one, i chuckled as i saw our setups were so similar down to the pump, inkbird and pinpoint haha very nice job. I will be following.
Beautiful setup so far. Clear you have put a lot of thought into it especially with all the safeties you have incorporated. I must have flooded my basement 5 times before I got it right and really it never looked as clean as yours does even to this day. Keep up the deep thinking and your system will be great. Have you gotten the Kalk stirrer up and yet and how have you found it so far?
hey, thanks for the positive feedback. Always room for improvement for sure, need to start thinking about AWC next and finishing my light hood and stand covering next. The kalk stirrer has been up for almost two months now (just shortly after the video). It's really working as well as i had hoped. It keeps my alk and ph very steady. While I don't have a high demand as of yet for alkalinity a higher / stable Ph is much appreciated. Been focused on other things but I've been wanting to put the stirrer on a schedule with my Apex to give the motor a rest as I don't really think it needs to stir 24/7 like it is. Two thumbs up on the design and the benefit of it (just dump 3/4 of a cup in every two weeks or so).
@@RobBzReef For your AWC look into the AUTOAQUA I have one on my 400 gallon tank and love it. Its very easy to set it up and it also takes care of the replenishment water if you want it to or not. The pumps it comes with are small but you can always purchase the plug adapter or solenoid that replaces the pumps allowing you to use almost any other pumps you might need should your tank be far from your new water vat. I've had one in my system now for over a year and it changes out 5 gallons every night for me without any intervention except making new water once a week. It also has several layers of built in protection that have warned me of issues "of my own making"" several times. Its a little pricy and it is very small at the size of a pack of smokes but Ill never have another tank without one.
Hi! I want to get the Kalk stirred but I’m confused if I used it with my ato do I need a dosing pump? Or just with my ato would work? Do I need a timer?
When I started i pushed Kalk from my stirrer through my ATO alone. However this really just resulted in my overdosing it as my alk consumption was far below my daily evaporation rate. This manifests itself by abiotic precipitation of calcium carbonate and was causing my sand bed to clump. Other than that it wasn't hurting anything per se. Some may experience excessive pH levels however. Best practice (what I'm doing now) is to pull RODI water from your ATO reservoir with a dosing pump of your choice and push that water into your Kalk stirrer. Set it to dose the amount of your daily alk usage, at a minimum you have to know that regardless of what you are dosing (two part, soda ash, kalk etc). The rule of thumb i go by for dosing kalk is 1.25% of your system volume of fully saturated kalkwasser will raise your alkalinity by 1.4 dKH. For example if you have a 100 gallon tank and you dose (via your doser) 1.25 gallons a day you'll raise your dKH by 1.4. You'd adjust this down according to your actual usage of course. The avast stirrer I'm using gravity feeds my sump so as my Echotech Versa doses RODI into my stirrer it just over flows into the tank. It's been very precise to date. Just make sure the calculated volume is less that your daily evaporation rate. The remaining volume is simply made up by your ATO system. In my case the Tunze 3155 makes up the difference on its own and it all works out perfectly.
@@RobBzReef let me see if I understand correctly ( I’m no from USA so I’m still need more time to learn/understand better) so I just bought the Avast Stirred and a ph controller. My plan is use one of the dosing heads to pump my Ato so it will feed my Kalk stirred, and connect my ph controller to the doser so in case the ph goes higher it will shut it down. I have a 135g and the evaporation rate was around 3000ml per day, I dose Kh 7 ml per day and Cal 3ml per day. So now I have to divide the 3000/24hours? Or based on the Kh 7 ml 🤦🏼♀️ here is where i get confused. Thanks
@@kamilawright5665 no worries, we can work through this. I'll need to clarify a few things first so we get our terminology straight. What is your tank's daily alkalinity consumption rate currently? You mentioned dosing 7ml of dkH daily. 7ml of what? That doesn't seem like much for a 135g tank regardless of what you are dosing. What unit of measure do you track your dKH in (meq/L, dKH or ppm)? Let's start with an example using your 135g tank, we'll use dKH as the measure. If you use meq/L or ppm there are conversions available (dKH to ppm => dKH * 17.86, ppm to meq/L => ppm * .358). The assumption will be your tank consumes .4dKH daily in alkalinity and your total system volume (include display tank volume and sump volume if you use one). In this example per our discussion we will be dosing a fully saturated solution of kalkwasser(calcium hydroxide). Total system volume * 1.25% => 135 * .0125 = 1.69gal or 6,400ml. That gets us a dose of 1.4 dKH in alkalinity. However we only need a .4 dKH dose for this example. So we take our target dose (.4) and divide by our baseline .4 / 1.4 = .285. Multiply this by our volume calculated earlier (6,400 * .285 = 1,828ml). So in order to maintain a daily consumption of .4 dKH using Kalkwasser you would push 1,828ml of RODI water through your kalk stirrer daily. If your daily tank evaporation was 3,000ml as you mentioned earlier you would make up the difference (1,172ml) in straight RODI water from your ATO using whatever liquid level control you have in place (I use a Tunze 3155, there are many out there on the market). I hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
Nicely done!
Man, I have to sub to a reefer who’s also fellow cad designer. Nice job on that ATO reservoir! Awesome.
I run my Avast K1 with Kamoer X1 doser...it’s been real solid so far.
Cheers
Thank you so much, I love this hobby as much as the good people I've met while engaging in it!
Pretty dope set up!! I have completed my 50 gallon Saltwater mixing station and installed a #BRS 7 stage RODI system w/ a Booster pump. I am waiting for my Neptune DOS for my AWC's.
Thank you very much! So far I'm really enjoying how this is all working out. Traveling for a couple weeks at a time I need things to operate hands off reliably and so far so good. I haven't done any water changes since i set my tank up but at some point I know that I will start doing them. Neptune makes some great products. Feel free to share your setup, I am always interested in how others approach things as well!
@@RobBzReef , I am going to be doing a 10 part series on my tank thats ready to go up next weekend. Feel free to check out SCA150 build log - www.reef2reef.com/threads/flsharkvictim-custom-rimless-sca-150-build.533545/
@@flreefshark76 just watched the first one, i chuckled as i saw our setups were so similar down to the pump, inkbird and pinpoint haha very nice job. I will be following.
Beautiful setup so far. Clear you have put a lot of thought into it especially with all the safeties you have incorporated. I must have flooded my basement 5 times before I got it right and really it never looked as clean as yours does even to this day. Keep up the deep thinking and your system will be great.
Have you gotten the Kalk stirrer up and yet and how have you found it so far?
hey, thanks for the positive feedback. Always room for improvement for sure, need to start thinking about AWC next and finishing my light hood and stand covering next. The kalk stirrer has been up for almost two months now (just shortly after the video). It's really working as well as i had hoped. It keeps my alk and ph very steady. While I don't have a high demand as of yet for alkalinity a higher / stable Ph is much appreciated. Been focused on other things but I've been wanting to put the stirrer on a schedule with my Apex to give the motor a rest as I don't really think it needs to stir 24/7 like it is. Two thumbs up on the design and the benefit of it (just dump 3/4 of a cup in every two weeks or so).
@@RobBzReef For your AWC look into the AUTOAQUA I have one on my 400 gallon tank and love it. Its very easy to set it up and it also takes care of the replenishment water if you want it to or not. The pumps it comes with are small but you can always purchase the plug adapter or solenoid that replaces the pumps allowing you to use almost any other pumps you might need should your tank be far from your new water vat. I've had one in my system now for over a year and it changes out 5 gallons every night for me without any intervention except making new water once a week. It also has several layers of built in protection that have warned me of issues "of my own making"" several times. Its a little pricy and it is very small at the size of a pack of smokes but Ill never have another tank without one.
Hi! I want to get the Kalk stirred but I’m confused if I used it with my ato do I need a dosing pump? Or just with my ato would work? Do I need a timer?
When I started i pushed Kalk from my stirrer through my ATO alone. However this really just resulted in my overdosing it as my alk consumption was far below my daily evaporation rate. This manifests itself by abiotic precipitation of calcium carbonate and was causing my sand bed to clump. Other than that it wasn't hurting anything per se. Some may experience excessive pH levels however. Best practice (what I'm doing now) is to pull RODI water from your ATO reservoir with a dosing pump of your choice and push that water into your Kalk stirrer. Set it to dose the amount of your daily alk usage, at a minimum you have to know that regardless of what you are dosing (two part, soda ash, kalk etc). The rule of thumb i go by for dosing kalk is 1.25% of your system volume of fully saturated kalkwasser will raise your alkalinity by 1.4 dKH. For example if you have a 100 gallon tank and you dose (via your doser) 1.25 gallons a day you'll raise your dKH by 1.4. You'd adjust this down according to your actual usage of course. The avast stirrer I'm using gravity feeds my sump so as my Echotech Versa doses RODI into my stirrer it just over flows into the tank. It's been very precise to date. Just make sure the calculated volume is less that your daily evaporation rate. The remaining volume is simply made up by your ATO system. In my case the Tunze 3155 makes up the difference on its own and it all works out perfectly.
@@RobBzReef let me see if I understand correctly ( I’m no from USA so I’m still need more time to learn/understand better) so I just bought the Avast Stirred and a ph controller. My plan is use one of the dosing heads to pump my Ato so it will feed my Kalk stirred, and connect my ph controller to the doser so in case the ph goes higher it will shut it down.
I have a 135g and the evaporation rate was around 3000ml per day, I dose Kh 7 ml per day and Cal 3ml per day. So now I have to divide the 3000/24hours? Or based on the Kh 7 ml 🤦🏼♀️ here is where i get confused. Thanks
@@kamilawright5665 no worries, we can work through this. I'll need to clarify a few things first so we get our terminology straight. What is your tank's daily alkalinity consumption rate currently? You mentioned dosing 7ml of dkH daily. 7ml of what? That doesn't seem like much for a 135g tank regardless of what you are dosing. What unit of measure do you track your dKH in (meq/L, dKH or ppm)?
Let's start with an example using your 135g tank, we'll use dKH as the measure. If you use meq/L or ppm there are conversions available (dKH to ppm => dKH * 17.86, ppm to meq/L => ppm * .358). The assumption will be your tank consumes .4dKH daily in alkalinity and your total system volume (include display tank volume and sump volume if you use one). In this example per our discussion we will be dosing a fully saturated solution of kalkwasser(calcium hydroxide).
Total system volume * 1.25% => 135 * .0125 = 1.69gal or 6,400ml. That gets us a dose of 1.4 dKH in alkalinity. However we only need a .4 dKH dose for this example. So we take our target dose (.4) and divide by our baseline .4 / 1.4 = .285. Multiply this by our volume calculated earlier (6,400 * .285 = 1,828ml). So in order to maintain a daily consumption of .4 dKH using Kalkwasser you would push 1,828ml of RODI water through your kalk stirrer daily. If your daily tank evaporation was 3,000ml as you mentioned earlier you would make up the difference (1,172ml) in straight RODI water from your ATO using whatever liquid level control you have in place (I use a Tunze 3155, there are many out there on the market).
I hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.