Just want to say thankyou for the sensible and well thought-out comments here. It was pointlessly negative comments that caused me to delete my first channel back in 2006. I very much value the community here.
I worked for British Airspace on Cormack Road Wingfield, we hand built the six wheelers and produced approximately 17 a month. Each nut, bolt, washer was a numbered part, it was like building a full size model, as the instruction book often reminded me of model building as a kid. Each fastener had a torque setting, which needed to be painted with a white paint pen, we were told to ensure no shortcuts were taken as the military stripped random vehicle for training and quality control. Once completed they sold to the military for 250k each.
@davemangle6448 close to $60k+. Sadly for me, the 4x4s are going at around $40-45k+. Which is why I'm never going to own one, as mush as that breaks my heart.
@@paulvandamme4201 my "senior engineer" used to work as an auto electrician, he has some horror stories, i have some about a certain daimler ferret at a museum I work for.
As the former owner of a Landrover County, "Lucas" is not only the Prince of Darkness, it is also one letter off a "four letter word". (Not my joke.....I got it from an automotive engineer).
I used to own an ex-military Srs 2a SWB, and found myself nodding along to so many of your comments. Your 'Rovers still maintain the British tradition of brilliant design, annoying and unnecessary faults and hit-and-miss build quality. Unfortunately, the damn things are addictive and once you've owned one you never truly recover 🙂
I was a part of the Project Perentie Trials Team back in the early 1980’s. Lots of interesting activities occurred. The 110 was always a favourite to drive. The 6x6 didn’t originally come as a turbo, and was really gutless until turbo’s fitted.
Yes I have heard people say that, it very much does make a difference. I have had thoughts of adding a turbo to the 4x4, but also don't like the work involved, for what would be minimal gain in my use case.
I bought something similar in Brisbane in about 1980. Series 1 Land Rover (? I think with sliding windows) had a 200 falcon motor in it, overdrive gearbox, same setup to drive rear diff, free wheeling hubs front and rear. Was a real beast.
I broke 3 when I was in the army. The IIMV (interim infantry movement vehicle)used to crack chassis all the time. Theywere way overloaded, before anything was put into them.
Interesting vlog Driven Landy’s inthe U.K. military both SWB lightweight and LWB but still find the FC101 best for its multi function use be that artillery tug, ambulance or the limited boxed FFR / Vampire bodies which during the gulf war some were converted to NBC monitoring vehicles not bad for a vehicle they stoped building in 1972 ! The Dutch army insisted that the lightweights they order be re-fitted with different light clusters as the landrover fitted ones were rubbish and let water in.
@@davemangle6448 massive, twice the weight, twice the turning circle, so higher diff ratio, thus gear changes happen one gear lower - top speed lower. more than double the fuel use, and power steering makes it light enough it feels like the 4x4 - that doesn't have power steering
@@davemangle6448 You will find a few groups on facebook, such as "perentie owners australia", many of those guys have done gearbox upgrades, you might talk to some of them.
Mmmm, I think that I will just live with my memories of my time in the Reserves and driving a 4x4 GS all over Victoria for a driver training course followed by driving the same vehicle with trailer to Darwin for Exercise Kangaroo '89. Unimog Course followed and then a trip to Canugra Land Warfare Centre in 110 Land Rover for a Support Exercise for the Chief's of The General Staff Exercise where my unit set up and ran a Field ComCen. (Communication Centre under canvas for non military types.) Saw some unique Unimogs and 110 Land Rover utes. I will say that the training has come in handy over the years, especially at work when having to unbog a battery powered EWP weighing 3 tonnes. No need to call for a tow truck when you have a shovel, a heavy jack, dunnage timbers and a sheet or two of plywood. 😂 Have fun with your ex Army kit.😊 Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Yeah in the cav scouts we managed to get a lot of stuff bogged, including mogs and a couple of 113's lol but yeah, not much else in my price range that fits my use case.
FFR doesn't have a tail gate but the rear is lowered to make entering/exiting a little easier. Also the FFR should have some additional battery boxes on the side. I've had lots of fun in in the 4x4 version trying to go where the tracked vehicles had gone.
The duck tail, as (only) *I* call them, on the FFR can easily be replaced to a drop down tail gate. I'm told you have to remove the rear bumper to get to some of the bolts, but it can be done. I'd love to own one of the FFRs but that's never going to happen.
In the grand scale of things, I've done less work on these than I did my T30 xtrail or LWB hiace. In these you have the choice of choosing when you want to do the maintenance.
@@darrenjones3681 They used the LT95 box. can't tell you specifics on the transfer case, I'd have to look up the RPS manuals again for that one. Isuzu 4BD1 in the 4x4 and 4BD1T in the 6x6.
@@darrenjones3681the transfercase is basically similar to the civilian Range Rover 4spd LT95. The A designation means it has the tapered roller bearing intermediate shaft. The 6x6 uses a modified front output section with the crntre diff lock vacumm actuation to drive the rear axle. The front and intermediate axles on 6x6 are driven all the time as per all versions of LT95. To keep the gearing the same in hi and low range, the rear axle drive is taken off the centre diff drive gear. They have a bad habit of torque windup back through the centre diff. The bolts holding the gear onto centre diff stretch and sheer off. They werent designed to have the torque windup from a rear driven axle. The pto winch drive is a permanently driven single row chain off a modifued transfer case input gear. The winch drive has a torque sensing clutch.
Nonsense. They are really quite reliable, the Isuzu engine is bulletproof and there is plenty of support, at least here in Oz. And, the Army don't do many miles in them.
I have a 4x4 GS as well, I love my old girl, only thing it needed was standard things that would wear out from a 1988 build, uni joints, all bushes, shocks, and plenty of dodgey wiring fixes that will be a nightmare for any auto sparky that looks at it! I also installed a York 210 AC compressor converted into compressed air which was a learning curve
Great vid, what was the thinking of the ambo vs the fitter truck with the side doors? I always though they would be great for camping with so much bin storage and having awnings on the sides. That would mean sleeping outside the van and not just in the back though.
@@mangoman9290 it was availability. We got the ambo for 25 grand. I have MS, sleeping at ground level not an option, or a great idea in swampy areas. We my "apprentice" has a no5 trailer with rooftop tent to herself now, so the ambo is for me and my wife. Fits what we need well with minimal water seals to worry about. Wet windy weather drives rain in those side doors, and dust gets in easy.
Still wish I'd managed to get the 6x6, I tried doing 2 auctions for them, hell even won 1!!! Then I got told it was no longer available so gave up and got myself an 80 series, after my second option got the same issue (a humvee, auction house thought it was a dressed up H1, I agreed to buy it, went to withdraw the money, got back to them turns out they worked out what they had after I said I'd buy magically the price jumped up massively.
The tray back versions are a lot lighter and better on the fuel. the 4x4 is only about 12l/100k, hence that's my daily driver. But yes it's expensive, still cheaper than hotel rooms... most of the time.
Astonishingly, my wife's SWB Series III Lightweight would eventually rattle up to an indicated 125 kph! If you were to brake at that speed, however, the vehicle would make a determined lunge for the opposite carriageway, so we didn't care to repeat the experiment very often.
@@Del350K4 oh I spent 2 grand on expert help to get the brakes in order recently after I overset the proportioning valve while winching 2 ton chunks of tree off a mates driveway. It stops very well now.
@@TheAussieRepairGuy In my case the problem was mainly me. The brakes were drums, and the front offside drum was braking better than it's counterpart. I should have sorted the problem out, but my wife, who was expert at progressive counter steering, would chase me out from under the truck with a broom, saying "What are you doing to my Jeep? [sic] Leave it alone - it works perfectly well as it is!" Eventually some bloke came round and offered her what we considered a fortune for it, and off it went, complete with home-cast rear Land Rover badge, snapped leaf springs and dodgy brakes. My wife cried piteously, while I breathed a heartfelt sigh of relief.
yeah I have, but ad the advice of the much more experienced Mr Dave Fare, I elected not to. According to him, letting the double cardan sit in the same position for too long can be just as detrimental, and I'd need to keep it greased all the same.
So, what you're saying is if it's running/working/resting correctly - something's already gone wrong? I wonder how that 6by does in Snow... Respect from the Great White North, eh!
I have PS great one finger steering, but I need a turbo uphill I go the same speed as a B double it’s not fun deopping to 70 on a 110 road I just have to remember to be considerate when overtaking lanes appear and back off when a lot need to pass
I remember the perente team (1 of them at least) coming through Karratha in '89. They had a 6 wheel patrol variant that was designed to be for SASR and orders to drive as straight a course as possible to Tindal airbase.
Also fyi the "110" part referred to the 110 inch wheelbase, that's why 90 series were shorter. Kinda doesn't work out with a 6x6 - not sure if the 6x6's got the 110 defender sticker on the bonnet.
When it comes to videos on off-roaders do tend to try and defend all Land-Rovers , except wehenr it comes to the Aussies, because the Land Cruiser is just king of the outback. Only learned these things existed a few days ago, didnt know they had a Japanese engine, probably better than the TD5 i imagine xD
@@BugattiONE666 they have a lot in common with the TD5, but have a galvanized chassis, and much more study bumpers. The 6x6 is heavy, and wide. Not nearly as useful off road as the 4x4. 80 series cruisers are good, but at this age point need just as much work, and parts are getting considerably more expensive.
@@BugattiONE666 Couldn't even begin to guess. I got both of mine cheap, $10k for the 4x4 and $25k for the 6x6, but auctions are seeing 4x4's go for more than 30k aud these days
Forgive a complete luddite for asking this but; if they're a pig electrically, loud, slow, thirsty, heavy, no comforts plus everything else you talked about...what are the good things about these vehicles?
Try taking a "comfortable" vehicle some of the places these things go. And try replacing a wheel bearing, axle, or drive shaft on the side of the road in the same vehicle. In my specific case they meet all my needs and exceed them, with none of the superfluous things I care not for. If I were to oversimplify - a "comfortable" camper meeting these needs would cost me $400,000. this cost me $25,000. the 4x4 cost me $10k. and it's already outlasted my last 3 vehicles. On top of that, it's a memory of my time in service.
Fair question. 18 years ago I bought my first ever 4wd. I was looking through the classifieds and wondering why 10 year old Range Rovers and Land Rovers were worth almost nothing, while 10 year old Toyota Landcruiser's and Nissan Patrol's were still expensive. I bought an 80 series, turbo diesel, Toyota Landcruiser. I have taken it all over the Victorian High Country, crossing rivers up to 3 feet deep, all the way up to Ayers Rock and back to Melbourne, Australia, via the Oodnadatta track, and on family holidays covering thousands of kilometres. And it is my daily driver. It is now worth more than I paid for it! I have had countless discussions, and made countless observations, about 4wd's. Landrover's are very capable, but their quality and reliability is useless. Facts, not sentimental opinion. When you get out past the bitumen, in the high country or Australian outback, you don't see Landrover's, they are only in the suburbs. Australian farmers, miners and serious 4wders usually use Toyota's Landcruiser's or Hilux's - because of their reliability. The UN, and African warlords, use Toyota's - because of their reliability. If you want to satisfy an emotional or sentimental urge or feeling, get any car you desire. If you want a good 4wd, that will get you home again , avoid Landrover's or Jeeps, and get a reliable, good quality 4wd - which are usually Japanese made, like Toyota.
@@fredfred4086 my folks have an 80 series, while they are great, it's needed far more work over the years than the perentie. The military variants made a few changes that were sirely needed from a stock 110. I see plenty of landies out bush, just not getting bogged or thrashed like cruisers do.
@@fredfred4086 To each their own, it comes down to personal experience after all, along with regular maintenence. Jap cars can be bullet proof, mine is more than 40 years old. New age/modern land rovers/range rovers get a bad wrap for reliability, I would think due to too much technology on board! I've got nothing against the Perentie, whenever I hear that name I immediately think of Les Hiddins 😄
It sounds a bit like my disco 300 TDI in terms of transfer case problems and electrical problems my disco likes to randomly jump out of low range when it's in low range not very good if your bogged up to your axles or trying to get through a water log bog hole or trying to go up a Muddy Hill and to lock the axles you have to get out and go to the passenger side and pull on the transfer case stick or give it a boot from the driver's seat and my disco likes to randomly blow fuses or completely lose power to random circuits it is so bad that I had to wire up a second switch for the instrument cluster lights and take power from the clock to power the instrument cluster
Gas hungry, I changed a 6 cylinder petrol engine in my long bed, to a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi diesel engine, and it went from 16 mpg to 28 mpg. Same HP, but better torque.
Being someone who had 4 wd vehicles before I joined the army I like the normal land rover but always thought the 6 x was always way too heavy for any form of off road activities I remember them always having to replace axle bushings Way too heavy vehicle and they should have used a small truck instead of these silly things
yeah it is very heavy I will admit. I use it to get to camp, and I have an 8x8 amphibious Argo I use as a camp runabout, having MS, walking isn't always an option.
@@PerriPaprikash depends what part of the world you are in. Project perentie was an australian military initiative and we drive on the right here - hence left hand drive vehicles.
Tried telling my brother, whos idea of advanced wrenching on a vehicle is changing wiper blades on a vw, that one of these just arent a good idea for him lol
The 4 is great. The 6 is rubbish. Off road capability of a shopping trolly. We never went bush without a battle crane. Hated it. Get the long range recon buggy.
@TheAussieRepairGuy I'm just thankful that the RUclips algorithm gave me a break from the geriatric ship show, that is the US presidential race. Love your content, it's nice to see something new to me at least.
Yeah it was project Perentie, an initiative by the Australian army to find a vehicle that could cross the continent without stopping. Inspired by the lizard for it's endurance. Did not expect this video to go quite so well, so I didn't bother to clarify - but I did feel the thumbnail kind of gave it away.
Short,and the long story,you just have to love old school,and put all google shit in the garbage,just a few basic wires and relays,these new 4 wheels vehicles today you need to put a techno in your tool box 😅😅.
yeah I'm not unfamiliar with ECU interfacing as well. though I'd argue manufacturers could make life much easier and just have them display the error on screen - it's greedy manufacturers that don't want you fixing your own stuff that's the issue.
Sounds like any talk of a land rover. This bit only works when you do this thing, careful of breaking axels, wiring created from spaghetti. Fix this fix that. Never really works. The only advantage is if you know how to fix it, then most things are doable.
@@dingodog5677 in reality, no worse than any other vehicle of a similar age, just that it's possible for the average person to fo most of these things without an obd tool.
Just want to say thankyou for the sensible and well thought-out comments here.
It was pointlessly negative comments that caused me to delete my first channel back in 2006.
I very much value the community here.
I worked for British Airspace on Cormack Road Wingfield, we hand built the six wheelers and produced approximately 17 a month. Each nut, bolt, washer was a numbered part, it was like building a full size model, as the instruction book often reminded me of model building as a kid. Each fastener had a torque setting, which needed to be painted with a white paint pen, we were told to ensure no shortcuts were taken as the military stripped random vehicle for training and quality control. Once completed they sold to the military for 250k each.
@@michaelpedro4283 yeah I've seen the prices for them. I think I got a bargain at 25k
@TheAussieRepairGuy you certainly did, especially givent he prices they are going for at the auction, even on FB marketplace, now.
@@petermiddowhat are the 6x6’s going for at auction these days?
@davemangle6448 close to $60k+. Sadly for me, the 4x4s are going at around $40-45k+.
Which is why I'm never going to own one, as mush as that breaks my heart.
I got to the 13:20 mark and decided to chuck a like on this, 'Wiring loom is somewhat akin to the state of US politics'. That's a classic.
Lucas, Prince of Darkness. The reason the British drink warm beer is because Lucas used to make fridges.
"Lucas used to make fridges" thats gold!
@@paulvandamme4201 my "senior engineer" used to work as an auto electrician, he has some horror stories, i have some about a certain daimler ferret at a museum I work for.
As the former owner of a Landrover County, "Lucas" is not only the Prince of Darkness, it is also one letter off a "four letter word". (Not my joke.....I got it from an automotive engineer).
@@professornuke7562 yeah there are days where I fully agree with that
Vacuum cleaners were the only thing that Lucas made that didn't suck.
I used to own an ex-military Srs 2a SWB, and found myself nodding along to so many of your comments. Your 'Rovers still maintain the British tradition of brilliant design, annoying and unnecessary faults and hit-and-miss build quality. Unfortunately, the damn things are addictive and once you've owned one you never truly recover 🙂
@@jimsweeney yep once you go lucas electrics, you can't find your way back...
I was a part of the Project Perentie Trials Team back in the early 1980’s. Lots of interesting activities occurred. The 110 was always a favourite to drive. The 6x6 didn’t originally come as a turbo, and was really gutless until turbo’s fitted.
Yes I have heard people say that, it very much does make a difference.
I have had thoughts of adding a turbo to the 4x4, but also don't like the work involved, for what would be minimal gain in my use case.
straight to the point within bs, practicality over pretty boy truck look👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I bought something similar in Brisbane in about 1980. Series 1 Land Rover (? I think with sliding windows) had a 200 falcon motor in it, overdrive gearbox, same setup to drive rear diff, free wheeling hubs front and rear. Was a real beast.
Great Channel! Perentie's and computers what could possibly go wrong! Great knowledge and a sense of humor!
@@rods6405 oh there's all sorts of content here. I have MS, and this channel is my legacy for my kids
I broke 3 when I was in the army. The IIMV (interim infantry movement vehicle)used to crack chassis all the time. Theywere way overloaded, before anything was put into them.
Yeah I keep an eye on the 6x6 chassis regularly for exactly that. I don't give it a hard time, that's what the 8x8 is for.
Many memories for me and my old days of being an ECN229-2. The 4x4 was an amazing bit of kit
+1
Interesting vlog
Driven Landy’s inthe U.K. military both SWB lightweight and LWB but still find the FC101 best for its multi function use be that artillery tug, ambulance or the limited boxed FFR / Vampire bodies which during the gulf war some were converted to NBC monitoring vehicles not bad for a vehicle they stoped building in 1972 !
The Dutch army insisted that the lightweights they order be re-fitted with different light clusters as the landrover fitted ones were rubbish and let water in.
@@donxz2555 yeah water ingress is an issue with both of these.
I love seeing these things out and about in town, really nice to hear you go through some specifics on them!
Yeah this is a culmination of questions I get asked a lot about them, it was a channel member request, didn't expect it to get 36k views though
How much difference is it to drive compared to the 110?
@@davemangle6448 massive, twice the weight, twice the turning circle, so higher diff ratio, thus gear changes happen one gear lower - top speed lower. more than double the fuel use, and power steering makes it light enough it feels like the 4x4 - that doesn't have power steering
@@TheAussieRepairGuy thanks for that. I’ve got a Defender 300TDi, and was wondering.
@@davemangle6448 You will find a few groups on facebook, such as "perentie owners australia", many of those guys have done gearbox upgrades, you might talk to some of them.
Mmmm, I think that I will just live with my memories of my time in the Reserves and driving a 4x4 GS all over Victoria for a driver training course followed by driving the same vehicle with trailer to Darwin for Exercise Kangaroo '89.
Unimog Course followed and then a trip to Canugra Land Warfare Centre in 110 Land Rover for a Support Exercise for the Chief's of The General Staff Exercise where my unit set up and ran a Field ComCen.
(Communication Centre under canvas for non military types.) Saw some unique Unimogs and 110 Land Rover utes.
I will say that the training has come in handy over the years, especially at work when having to unbog a battery powered EWP weighing 3 tonnes. No need to call for a tow truck when you have a shovel, a heavy jack, dunnage timbers and a sheet or two of plywood. 😂
Have fun with your ex Army kit.😊
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Yeah in the cav scouts we managed to get a lot of stuff bogged, including mogs and a couple of 113's lol
but yeah, not much else in my price range that fits my use case.
@@TheAussieRepairGuy Reggie veggie? What time period? I was Reservist '88 to mid 90s
@@markfryer9880 i was light horse 2007 to 2009 when attack of MS took my legs for 3 months. Med discharge thereafter
I was supposed to be on that Ex, ended up in Namibia instead. Was told Corps had priority over any Ex lol
That's so cool. Ultimate Van Life.
FFR doesn't have a tail gate but the rear is lowered to make entering/exiting a little easier. Also the FFR should have some additional battery boxes on the side.
I've had lots of fun in in the 4x4 version trying to go where the tracked vehicles had gone.
@@whya2ndaccount aware of that. Only so much I can say in a short video.
People always complain I talk too much.
The duck tail, as (only) *I* call them, on the FFR can easily be replaced to a drop down tail gate. I'm told you have to remove the rear bumper to get to some of the bolts, but it can be done.
I'd love to own one of the FFRs but that's never going to happen.
@@petermiddo I suspect the jump seats in back wouldn't pass civilian registration.
@@whya2ndaccount no, they don't tend to sell them with those in them anyway.
This was a really interesting video. Thanks for sharing your rigs.
No worries, this one was a member request.
Hey thanks for the tour, in germany we only got normal defenders so its very interesting to see a perentie
@@KYVTrocks key differences in these - galvanised chasis, and the Isuzu engine.
I love the 6x6 idea. Always wanted the patrol version
@@reubendobbs8011 probably a lot lighter too...
Hey mate, great video, this answered a lot of questions I had about the 6 Wheel Drive! thanks heaps
Message to self , don’t buy one of these unless your hot for spending more time fixing stuff than driving it anywhere.
In the grand scale of things, I've done less work on these than I did my T30 xtrail or LWB hiace.
In these you have the choice of choosing when you want to do the maintenance.
Not much different to any other defender just a be better engine, which transfers box and gearbox did they use ?
@@darrenjones3681 They used the LT95 box. can't tell you specifics on the transfer case, I'd have to look up the RPS manuals again for that one.
Isuzu 4BD1 in the 4x4 and 4BD1T in the 6x6.
@@darrenjones3681the transfercase is basically similar to the civilian Range Rover 4spd LT95. The A designation means it has the tapered roller bearing intermediate shaft.
The 6x6 uses a modified front output section with the crntre diff lock vacumm actuation to drive the rear axle.
The front and intermediate axles on 6x6 are driven all the time as per all versions of LT95.
To keep the gearing the same in hi and low range, the rear axle drive is taken off the centre diff drive gear.
They have a bad habit of torque windup back through the centre diff. The bolts holding the gear onto centre diff stretch and sheer off.
They werent designed to have the torque windup from a rear driven axle.
The pto winch drive is a permanently driven single row chain off a modifued transfer case input gear. The winch drive has a torque sensing clutch.
Nonsense. They are really quite reliable, the Isuzu engine is bulletproof and there is plenty of support, at least here in Oz. And, the Army don't do many miles in them.
Great video, I have always been curious about these vehicles.
@@digitalbase9396 yeah this was a channel member request.
Didn't expect it to take off quite like this though.
I'd love to have the 6x6! I'd turn it into a SHTF overland mini survival camper.
That's pretty much how this one is set up.
I have a 4x4 GS as well, I love my old girl, only thing it needed was standard things that would wear out from a 1988 build, uni joints, all bushes, shocks, and plenty of dodgey wiring fixes that will be a nightmare for any auto sparky that looks at it! I also installed a York 210 AC compressor converted into compressed air which was a learning curve
@@radaraacf yeah that all sounds quite familiar. Bushes are a consumable in my books
A couple of mods to the transfer case and its more than enough for the 6x6.
The front axle needs some work, rear axles are fine.
Great vid, what was the thinking of the ambo vs the fitter truck with the side doors? I always though they would be great for camping with so much bin storage and having awnings on the sides. That would mean sleeping outside the van and not just in the back though.
@@mangoman9290 it was availability. We got the ambo for 25 grand. I have MS, sleeping at ground level not an option, or a great idea in swampy areas. We my "apprentice" has a no5 trailer with rooftop tent to herself now, so the ambo is for me and my wife. Fits what we need well with minimal water seals to worry about. Wet windy weather drives rain in those side doors, and dust gets in easy.
Had my RFSV since 2015 and still ❤
Yeah I'll probably get buried in the 4x4 lol.
@TheAussieRepairGuy one day either me or the perentie will stop running, and I know which one it'll be 🤣
Still wish I'd managed to get the 6x6, I tried doing 2 auctions for them, hell even won 1!!! Then I got told it was no longer available so gave up and got myself an 80 series, after my second option got the same issue (a humvee, auction house thought it was a dressed up H1, I agreed to buy it, went to withdraw the money, got back to them turns out they worked out what they had after I said I'd buy magically the price jumped up massively.
How much do the 6x6’s go at auction?
Looks like you need to invest in an EME mobile workshop. and take that with you, everywhere you go.
@@peterrhodes5663 lol I have a guy for that. I call him up with his 6x6 for major expeditions
Thanks for the review, I would love a 6x6 if I could afford that fuel usage so its a no for me.
The tray back versions are a lot lighter and better on the fuel. the 4x4 is only about 12l/100k, hence that's my daily driver.
But yes it's expensive, still cheaper than hotel rooms... most of the time.
I’ll give you who 1980s kids mini bikes and a few grand cash lol. I wish. Haha. My plan is to have one good daily and then a perentie 6x6 project.
yeah 80's were a good time
Another British masterpiece
Check your chassis frequently - very prone to rear cracking
@@jamiehoward7478 i'm under there more times than I'd like to admit. I che k carefully
Astonishingly, my wife's SWB Series III Lightweight would eventually rattle up to an indicated 125 kph! If you were to brake at that speed, however, the vehicle would make a determined lunge for the opposite carriageway, so we didn't care to repeat the experiment very often.
@@Del350K4 oh I spent 2 grand on expert help to get the brakes in order recently after I overset the proportioning valve while winching 2 ton chunks of tree off a mates driveway. It stops very well now.
@@TheAussieRepairGuy In my case the problem was mainly me. The brakes were drums, and the front offside drum was braking better than it's counterpart. I should have sorted the problem out, but my wife, who was expert at progressive counter steering, would chase me out from under the truck with a broom, saying "What are you doing to my Jeep? [sic] Leave it alone - it works perfectly well as it is!"
Eventually some bloke came round and offered her what we considered a fortune for it, and off it went, complete with home-cast rear Land Rover badge, snapped leaf springs and dodgy brakes. My wife cried piteously, while I breathed a heartfelt sigh of relief.
@@Del350K4 yeah my wife has a 2012 jeep, I hate it lol.
4x4 has drums on the rear, disc on front. 6x6 is discs all round.
Have you considered putting free wheeling hubs on the rear axel but you will need to put thicker o rings in them as they will leak
yeah I have, but ad the advice of the much more experienced Mr Dave Fare, I elected not to. According to him, letting the double cardan sit in the same position for too long can be just as detrimental, and I'd need to keep it greased all the same.
I always think about "Les Hiddins " -Bush Tucker Man
Always in the bsck of my mind.
He's still kicking last I checked
Had a '95 110 for ten years. Great off road, not good on long haul, spent more time fixing it than driving it.
yeah I despise doing mechanical repairs, so I choose my battle and do them preventatively.
the 4x4 is an 82 build, and the 6x6 is 89.
So, what you're saying is if it's running/working/resting correctly - something's already gone wrong? I wonder how that 6by does in Snow...
Respect from the Great White North, eh!
@@the_lost_navigator goes ok in snow but its very heavy, the 4x4 does much better. And if it's running correctly, it needs more grease and oil lol.
Turbo & power steering make a big difference.
@@cameronalexander359 they do indeed, only for it to be negated by 2.5 times the weight
I have PS great one finger steering, but I need a turbo uphill I go the same speed as a B double it’s not fun deopping to 70 on a 110 road I just have to remember to be considerate when overtaking lanes appear and back off when a lot need to pass
Joe Lucas . Still spoiling peoples day from beyond the Grave...................................
@@johncunningham4820 oh indeed, even on the ferret i have to look at.
@@TheAussieRepairGuy Q: Why do the Poms drink warm beer?
A: Because Lucas made their fridges.
Never knew them as a Perentie. Perentie was the code for the trials. It’s a Landrover 110. 🍻
@@brycejames8770 project perentie yes. They get referred to as a perentie these days, as civvy 110's are quite different.
I remember the perente team (1 of them at least) coming through Karratha in '89. They had a 6 wheel patrol variant that was designed to be for SASR and orders to drive as straight a course as possible to Tindal airbase.
Also fyi the "110" part referred to the 110 inch wheelbase, that's why 90 series were shorter.
Kinda doesn't work out with a 6x6 - not sure if the 6x6's got the 110 defender sticker on the bonnet.
When it comes to videos on off-roaders do tend to try and defend all Land-Rovers , except wehenr it comes to the Aussies, because the Land Cruiser is just king of the outback. Only learned these things existed a few days ago, didnt know they had a Japanese engine, probably better than the TD5 i imagine xD
@@BugattiONE666 they have a lot in common with the TD5, but have a galvanized chassis, and much more study bumpers.
The 6x6 is heavy, and wide. Not nearly as useful off road as the 4x4. 80 series cruisers are good, but at this age point need just as much work, and parts are getting considerably more expensive.
@@TheAussieRepairGuy Intreuiging, wonder how much to import one here to Scotland xD
@@BugattiONE666 Couldn't even begin to guess.
I got both of mine cheap, $10k for the 4x4 and $25k for the 6x6, but auctions are seeing 4x4's go for more than 30k aud these days
Forgive a complete luddite for asking this but; if they're a pig electrically, loud, slow, thirsty, heavy, no comforts plus everything else you talked about...what are the good things about these vehicles?
Try taking a "comfortable" vehicle some of the places these things go.
And try replacing a wheel bearing, axle, or drive shaft on the side of the road in the same vehicle.
In my specific case they meet all my needs and exceed them, with none of the superfluous things I care not for.
If I were to oversimplify - a "comfortable" camper meeting these needs would cost me $400,000. this cost me $25,000.
the 4x4 cost me $10k. and it's already outlasted my last 3 vehicles.
On top of that, it's a memory of my time in service.
Fair question. 18 years ago I bought my first ever 4wd. I was looking through the classifieds and wondering why 10 year old Range Rovers and Land Rovers were worth almost nothing, while 10 year old Toyota Landcruiser's and Nissan Patrol's were still expensive. I bought an 80 series, turbo diesel, Toyota Landcruiser. I have taken it all over the Victorian High Country, crossing rivers up to 3 feet deep, all the way up to Ayers Rock and back to Melbourne, Australia, via the Oodnadatta track, and on family holidays covering thousands of kilometres. And it is my daily driver. It is now worth more than I paid for it! I have had countless discussions, and made countless observations, about 4wd's. Landrover's are very capable, but their quality and reliability is useless. Facts, not sentimental opinion. When you get out past the bitumen, in the high country or Australian outback, you don't see Landrover's, they are only in the suburbs. Australian farmers, miners and serious 4wders usually use Toyota's Landcruiser's or Hilux's - because of their reliability. The UN, and African warlords, use Toyota's - because of their reliability. If you want to satisfy an emotional or sentimental urge or feeling, get any car you desire. If you want a good 4wd, that will get you home again , avoid Landrover's or Jeeps, and get a reliable, good quality 4wd - which are usually Japanese made, like Toyota.
@@fredfred4086 my folks have an 80 series, while they are great, it's needed far more work over the years than the perentie.
The military variants made a few changes that were sirely needed from a stock 110. I see plenty of landies out bush, just not getting bogged or thrashed like cruisers do.
@@fredfred4086 To each their own, it comes down to personal experience after all, along with regular maintenence. Jap cars can be bullet proof, mine is more than 40 years old. New age/modern land rovers/range rovers get a bad wrap for reliability, I would think due to too much technology on board! I've got nothing against the Perentie, whenever I hear that name I immediately think of Les Hiddins 😄
looking to get a 4x4 GS at the end of the year as a daily
It sounds a bit like my disco 300 TDI in terms of transfer case problems and electrical problems my disco likes to randomly jump out of low range when it's in low range not very good if your bogged up to your axles or trying to get through a water log bog hole or trying to go up a Muddy Hill and to lock the axles you have to get out and go to the passenger side and pull on the transfer case stick or give it a boot from the driver's seat and my disco likes to randomly blow fuses or completely lose power to random circuits it is so bad that I had to wire up a second switch for the instrument cluster lights and take power from the clock to power the instrument cluster
@@jsd9871 in these, chafing of the wiring loom where it goes through the firewall is usually the cause of that.
You can buy the panels from Europe just google the parts you need for them there a different websites pending what you're looking for.
@@Craig61-f2u oh i have a couple of spares ready to go. I tried not to run off on too many tangets in this video.
Gas hungry, I changed a 6 cylinder petrol engine in my long bed, to a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi diesel engine, and it went from 16 mpg to 28 mpg. Same HP, but better torque.
@@grancitodos7318 that's about it. They aren't fast, but not much stops them.
most people in the UK have 1 land rover defender
Being someone who had 4 wd vehicles before I joined the army I like the normal land rover but always thought the 6 x was always way too heavy for any form of off road activities
I remember them always having to replace axle bushings
Way too heavy vehicle and they should have used a small truck instead of these silly things
yeah it is very heavy I will admit. I use it to get to camp, and I have an 8x8 amphibious Argo I use as a camp runabout, having MS, walking isn't always an option.
Imagine a whole bunch of these having to cross country across the outback to defend Australia 🇦🇺 😢😂
@@RustyTreeMan thats what the idle stop is for. Old school cruise control. But 80k is usually convoy speed.
This video was good for a lol… Good luck to all you weirdo’s that love these vehicles.
Lol I don't fit into most modern vehicles anyway.
Isn't the steering wheel on the wrong side of the Perentie?
@@PerriPaprikash depends what part of the world you are in.
Project perentie was an australian military initiative and we drive on the right here - hence left hand drive vehicles.
Thank you. I am not getting one now. 👌
@@Evervigilant88 each to their own lol...
Yes I want to buy a Perentie.
No, I never will.
Thanks Autism.
Don’t let that disability stop you mate, I live in WA and that disability didn’t stop me!
Can you fit an R380 gearbox in the 6x6?
yes and people often do, they still use an LT95 gearbox with a pto drive for the 3rd axle.
However the Isuzu 4bd1t tends to eat them for lunch.
@@TheAussieRepairGuy I was wondering how to get that 5th gear for highway speeds 🤔
@@davemangle6448 many people have, fairy overdrive maybe, it already uses 30l/100km
Im keen to take my time
Tried telling my brother, whos idea of advanced wrenching on a vehicle is changing wiper blades on a vw, that one of these just arent a good idea for him lol
@@SteveBbb-y6d well he will learn fast lol.
Only one should spin on or off road
@@jasonr8772 one what?
The 4 is great. The 6 is rubbish. Off road capability of a shopping trolly. We never went bush without a battle crane. Hated it. Get the long range recon buggy.
@@richardmiller1345 6x6 is set up as a camper. We use the 8x8 as the camp runabout.
Thank you for the break from political pandering.
@@samdeitz2993 I don't do politics. Have 0 appetite for it.
@TheAussieRepairGuy I'm just thankful that the RUclips algorithm gave me a break from the geriatric ship show, that is the US presidential race.
Love your content, it's nice to see something new to me at least.
I thought you meant the Lizard.
Yeah it was project Perentie, an initiative by the Australian army to find a vehicle that could cross the continent without stopping. Inspired by the lizard for it's endurance.
Did not expect this video to go quite so well, so I didn't bother to clarify - but I did feel the thumbnail kind of gave it away.
#FiveStars
Short,and the long story,you just have to love old school,and put all google shit in the garbage,just a few basic wires and relays,these new 4 wheels vehicles today you need to put a techno in your tool box 😅😅.
yeah I'm not unfamiliar with ECU interfacing as well.
though I'd argue manufacturers could make life much easier and just have them display the error on screen - it's greedy manufacturers that don't want you fixing your own stuff that's the issue.
Sounds like any talk of a land rover. This bit only works when you do this thing, careful of breaking axels, wiring created from spaghetti. Fix this fix that. Never really works. The only advantage is if you know how to fix it, then most things are doable.
@@dingodog5677 in reality, no worse than any other vehicle of a similar age, just that it's possible for the average person to fo most of these things without an obd tool.
After 13 years service my recommendation is NEVER buy an ex-ADF vehicle.
@@martinmckowen1588 many would agree with you
Not for me