V4 charging of the CT would be potentially something special, but if Tesla's charging team has been substantially disbanded, how does that ever happen...?
I think that Tesla just needs to state at the beginning of each project there will be improvements in charging as the number of vehicles increases and the pool of data grows.
If I want my battery to last a long time and I can charge at home anywhere between 0 and 48 Amps. What amperage is the best for the life of the battery?
This is consistent with 4680 Model Y charging performance. Big spike and a sharp decline and derate. After 25% it charges at the same speeds as Model S and only slightly higher speeds than Model Y LR. Look at the amps. Either something is getting hot (unlikely) or the cells have high resistance. When cells have high resistance, they reach peak safe voltage very quickly. You can clearly see this in your testing. It very quickly pops up to mid 700s volts and the amps fall off a cliff to find that equilibrium. This is the exact same behavior as Model Y 4680. Either Tesla is being super conservative about pushing the voltage up to let the current flow, or there is something inherently problematic with the design and construction of the cells. 100 kw at 60%?! Model 3 LFP does this with less than half the size of battery in capacity. And from about 52% the charge curve is basically the same. Tesla’s largest battery should be charging at much higher speeds than their smallest battery.
are people good with not getting features that should be standard? is this alright with everyone? i mean if you pay 100K for a truck you should get... oh I don't know... the truck you paid for. why would anyone buy an early model if everything is "coming soon"?
My 2019 Model 3 holds 100kw past 60% sometimes 62%. CTs curve look's exactly like my car after 22%. I'm not sure you understand how volts and amps work. The truck design is kind of dumb currently. It'll pull almost 400V 700 amps but can't even hit 500 amps at 800V. It seems like they designed the truck with internal cables rated for 350amps which is why in general it tapers so hard. Meh they better really fix this but I bet they can't otherwise we would have seen this in the Model Y 4680, its not doing much better than two of those packs stacked.
I think Tesla will make a new larger pack with the 46 x 115 batteries would equal about 175 kwh pack next year and the prices will DROP $20,000 to $30,000 in 2025.
They are going to ditch 4680 and move to lfp. If they don't they won't sell many when all the other companies switch. They desperately need to make their own LFP in USA to get the tax credit. That is why they M3 sales suck. EM blamed it on Biden rules but they planned their M3 refresh poorly in the US. M3 should cost 28-30k after tax credits. What a missed opportunity.
These trucks are just like your mobile phone, after 10 years the battery will be exhausted, this is because the battery technology is much the same as you cellphone. So considering how many emissions are created to produce the batteries, and emissions created recycling the old batteries (which not many companies are lining up to do and most are kept in storage areas or go to land fill) Then you have the emissions from creating the body and electronics as well. So they are not really zero emissions vehicles at all, they are just out of sight out of mind emissions. Unless you charge from 100% green energy they are polluting each time you charge. Like Scotty from Star Trek was always saying "You can not change the laws of physics'. Or Thermodynamics and conservation of energy I might add. So to sum it all up, Just because you put an unstable battery technology and electric motors into a car does not make it a green vehicle.
V4 charging of the CT would be potentially something special, but if Tesla's charging team has been substantially disbanded, how does that ever happen...?
All fantastic questions…who knows at this point 🤷♂️
The new charging team is going to upgrade old superchargers to v4.
Wow just saw 64 cents per kilowatt. Where was that price? I’m guessing that electrify America mark up prices. In the desert somewhere.
I think that Tesla just needs to state at the beginning of each project there will be improvements in charging as the number of vehicles increases and the pool of data grows.
If I want my battery to last a long time and I can charge at home anywhere between 0 and 48 Amps. What amperage is the best for the life of the battery?
This is consistent with 4680 Model Y charging performance. Big spike and a sharp decline and derate. After 25% it charges at the same speeds as Model S and only slightly higher speeds than Model Y LR.
Look at the amps. Either something is getting hot (unlikely) or the cells have high resistance. When cells have high resistance, they reach peak safe voltage very quickly. You can clearly see this in your testing. It very quickly pops up to mid 700s volts and the amps fall off a cliff to find that equilibrium.
This is the exact same behavior as Model Y 4680.
Either Tesla is being super conservative about pushing the voltage up to let the current flow, or there is something inherently problematic with the design and construction of the cells.
100 kw at 60%?! Model 3 LFP does this with less than half the size of battery in capacity. And from about 52% the charge curve is basically the same.
Tesla’s largest battery should be charging at much higher speeds than their smallest battery.
No way man. In real world I am able to cover 150 miles of driving in 25 minutes of charging
are people good with not getting features that should be standard? is this alright with everyone? i mean if you pay 100K for a truck you should get... oh I don't know... the truck you paid for. why would anyone buy an early model if everything is "coming soon"?
5:35 *ahem* they fired the entire SC team...
$0.64 per kWh!? Damn. You should pay the monthly fee to Electrify America. The rates are cheaper when you are a member.
My 2019 Model 3 holds 100kw past 60% sometimes 62%. CTs curve look's exactly like my car after 22%. I'm not sure you understand how volts and amps work. The truck design is kind of dumb currently. It'll pull almost 400V 700 amps but can't even hit 500 amps at 800V. It seems like they designed the truck with internal cables rated for 350amps which is why in general it tapers so hard. Meh they better really fix this but I bet they can't otherwise we would have seen this in the Model Y 4680, its not doing much better than two of those packs stacked.
I think Tesla will make a new larger pack with the 46 x 115 batteries would equal about 175 kwh pack next year and the prices will DROP $20,000 to $30,000 in 2025.
That would be quite a pack, I’d for sure be down with that lol
They are going to ditch 4680 and move to lfp. If they don't they won't sell many when all the other companies switch. They desperately need to make their own LFP in USA to get the tax credit. That is why they M3 sales suck. EM blamed it on Biden rules but they planned their M3 refresh poorly in the US. M3 should cost 28-30k after tax credits. What a missed opportunity.
How dose this work with tesla firing the whole charging team
Only a sucker would believe they fired “the whole charging team”! Or, you’re with the MSM in trying do damage to a great American company…which is it?
Fortunately that’s the supercharging team which is more for equipment deployments, not vehicle software
@@AbolishCommunismIf they’re not maintained, eventually.
as a model y owner i can say only one - 4680 is a pure crap
Some people think the 4680 sucks... HAHAHAHAHA thanks for the video.
Lol
These trucks are just like your mobile phone, after 10 years the battery will be exhausted, this is because the battery technology is much the same as you cellphone. So considering how many emissions are created to produce the batteries, and emissions created recycling the old batteries (which not many companies are lining up to do and most are kept in storage areas or go to land fill) Then you have the emissions from creating the body and electronics as well. So they are not really zero emissions vehicles at all, they are just out of sight out of mind emissions. Unless you charge from 100% green energy they are polluting each time you charge. Like Scotty from Star Trek was always saying "You can not change the laws of physics'. Or Thermodynamics and conservation of energy I might add. So to sum it all up, Just because you put an unstable battery technology and electric motors into a car does not make it a green vehicle.