I just wish we would change the scheme and he needs to quit calling plays! The culture would be good if we were winning. For me it’s a tired scheme and teams know what we’re going to do before we do.
If the Bengals Ownership (Mike Brown) messes up the Joe Burrow Era it's over. It's time to adopt Modern Day Methods. We will have another Palmer situation in Two years if Mike Brown doesn't start emptying his pockets. Put Pressure on Mike Brown or Burrow will leave. Simple
#protestmikebrown ....as fans only thing he cares about is money so send a message for the love of God....don't buy any more tickets or merchandise the rest of the season. If no changes then do it next year also. Then and only then will he do something
Fire Duke Tobin. He single handedly screwed the Bengals season with the defensive roster construction before it even started. This organization has a LOT of front office evolving to do.
Agreed. But Marvin Lewis was doing a lot to get good players, though they weren't the most disciplined. The Bengals really just need to increase scouting department, too
You are absolutely right! Anyone could see before the season that the defense was going to have severe issues, but not the front office, I guess. Last year with Reader the defense still had its run "D" issues, but without adequately replacing him this year was going to be worse.
The locker room is in jeopardy of being LOST! The Bengals got rid of MANY locker room leaders. Bates, Bell, Reader, Mixon, and Boyd were ALL leaders. It's part of the game for players to leave, BUT you need to replace those guys with more talented players. The Bengals have MISSED on several draft picks and free agents. It's a TERRIBLE recipe for winning. Everyone needs to look in the mirror and hold each other accountable........that's how a machine works, together. When a machines parts don't work together in unison, then the machine eventually BREAKS due to being overworked, trying to make up for the broken part. CHEERS to ALL
The problem is ownership and front office. Doesn’t matter who they hire if they can’t bring in decent quality pieces or keep decent quality players. As long as people fill the seats and let Brown use Burrow as a cash cow nothings going to change. He needs to sell the franchise or start spending money on players and scouting staff.
It didn't help the overall culture. Letting talent walk because they didn't want to pay them what they were worth. In addition to not paying chase this season. Gave the impression of a cheap culture That wants to haggle with their top talent. That in addition to poor coaching. Led to disaster.
Amen! Replacing Bates with multiple players that aren’t as good has worked well, no? We spend more money on multiple players than we could have just paid one really good one. You can always get players to fill out a roster, but you can’t always rely on them. Great players elevate others.
Firing Zac or Lou won't change much. They did well when they actually had solid players. The majority of the blame should go to Duke Tobin and his team for missing on key draft picks for defense and FAs to replace the good players we let go. Sheldon replaced Reader and hasn't done anything, Moss replaced Mixon and barely did anything, Nick Scott replaced Jesse Bates and sucked, Geno Stone replaced Nick Scott and hasn't done anything. We gotta completely rebuild on defense. See y'all after the bye week
I don't blame the coaches. At least not yet. I do blame the front office and the Brown Family. This fan base deserves better. I don't see with all of the tax money involved we can't force a sell to a public corporation like the Green Bay Model. Brown Family has been fairly compensated for over 50 years.
All you have to see is the look on Treys face sitting on the bench after the chargers loss too see Zac has totally lost the locker room! 😞 Burrow and Jamar have the same look of disgust in the interviews after the game. When your super stars have this look they know what the problem is. The players and the fans deserve better than this, it's on this organization to do the right thing at the end of the season. Although I wouldn't bet on it.
I'm not sure he has lost it completely. However some players do seem to be losing trust in Zac. I feel like Zacs biggest heel is clutch time. He doesn't seem to have the ability to put together a scoring drive in clutch time. The play calling is far to vanilla.
They are not coached to win. They are coached not to lose. They pull their punches when they have teams on the ropes. Marvin Lewis coached that way too. You'd never see the Ravens or Steelers do that.
@@A_Lemon_Party how and they let all the good black players go and never get paid but got bum ass players like Sam Hubbard making 10 plus million year.. couldn't pay reader or mixon or Bates or Boyd .wat I'm supposed to think..
@@SnoopyReads come on, you know the point they were making. Technically they didn’t say Marvin was specifically here 20 years. They said we can’t keep Zac for 20. And honestly, if they kept Marvin around for 16, after bringing them out of the basement and consistently getting them in the playoffs (despite not winning one), I can see Zac’s postseason success in 2021-22 buying him a few more years than Marvin got. I hope not, but this is the Brown family we’re talking about here.
Exactly. Every year we waste Burrow and Chase, is a complete and utter disgrace! We at the very least, need a new voice at DC. Robert Saleh comes to mind. Lou, maybe not from all fault of his own, has been unable to effectively stop any opposing offenses, this season! Hell, we made Andy Dalton look good! They let Reader walk and bring in Rankins, which was one of the biggest miscalculations, of the entire offseason and every Bengal fan expected more from Geno Stone! But at some point, this has to fall on our coaches not putting our players in positions, to succeed!
@ wtf are you talking about? They are 4-7 and Burrow and Chase are having career years! You at least want to see them make a run in the playoffs. Not falling short against teams, they let off the hook. Why do I even have to explain to you, why this year, is a waste?
It’s time for little Zach to go back to coaching peewee football he was never meant to coach at this level !! He’s not built like that. He’s soft and has no sense of what championship football even is !! A new HC is A MUST!! So is a Scouting Dept , OL Coach, DC , GM of Player Personnel.
I always thought the Bengals should tag and trade Tee. With the evolution of the offense. You need good route technicians and one beast (Jamarr) and good blocking. That’s what they should set up for that’s more long term. Coaches would’ve kept Jesse and DJ. Could’ve afforded all of that if you didn’t franchise Tee.
@ if Bill is brought in I believe he will get the responsibility and role to oversee signings and drafting. Think about how many players the patriots drafted in later rounds that were studs. Bill has an eye for talent we just need some holes filled on this roster. And don’t get me started on our play calling…
Taylor is terrible in situational football. His decisions have cost us a more games than they have won. The years they went to SB and AFC championships were IN SPITE of him, not because of him.
I think zacs a great guy and I honestly see him being a good assistant offensive coordinator somewhere. His head coaching days need to dry up in the off season... Give the locker room a Dan Campbell type hype up guy and let's start fresh
Don't get me wrong I love Zac for our 2 playoff runs and him giving the city game balls but the 5 year rule is real and no matter what happens the rest of the szn I think it's time to move on specially when there is going to be very good HC available, let's not do what we did with Lewis, we need to revamp are coaches and really think bout getting a real GM, and as a fan base I think we need to be load, for personalities online that rep and talk Bengals need to be even louder so the front office hears us so they can make these changes that they think they might not need to bc they DO!
I’m incredibly worried about the future of this team, there is just so many needs. Having Burrow and Chase is supposed to make you a contender every season. Seems like some dark seasons ahead for us Bengals fans, might be in for a 2-3 year rebuild. I really don’t want Burrow to be Dan Marino and never reach a SB again but if he doesn’t get out of this organization, that might happen unless there are some serious changes within this organization.
Nope, burrow is far better than Dan Marino, we just need a defense that isn’t the worst in the entire league. We have given up 34+ points in 5/11 games this year, chiefs have given up 30 three times in the last three seasons.
@@Brickwilliams I know what we need but I don’t believe in this FO to make that happen and make the right decisions. This defense needs a complete overhaul. We’re gonna be losing Hilton after this season most likely, the FO doesn’t want to give Hendrickson more money so he’ll probably be gone when his contract is up. Not a whole lot of bright spots on this defense
@@iAmJuicee I mean our D can’t get much worse at this point, and we should still be at least 5-6, we’ve lost 6 one score games, I think our season has ultimately been very unlucky, from a bad hold to two missed field goals, to a 4 and 16 last play flag, we just need to hit the draft well this year, spend all of our picks on D
@@TripleG12398 it is, they didn’t give up 30 once last year, and hadn’t this year either until the bills game. And people wonder how they keep winning and we don’t….
He has 100% lost the locker room, the culture Zac has instilled is on the verge of collapse. It doesn't help that the way the front office does business by letting stars go when they really should keep them and build a dynasty. The players can see this and it is no doubt contributing to the unrest that we can clearly see. If I was in charge then the only thing in my eyes that keeps Zac his job is win out and make the playoffs. If anything else happens then at the end of the season Zac would be fired. We all know though Mike Brown hardly fires anyone and if Zac keeps his job no matter what, then I expect more of the same shit in 2025.
He still defends it. It's sad. We all knew it was an oline problem, and a Frank Pollak problem, not a Mixon problem. Once again, you don't move on from productive roster pieces, especially when they're also an important voice in the locker room.
@@thebluelibra5686 mixon would be mediocre like he was last year if he was still on this team. Cant judge keeping a player based on how they perform elsewhere. If the titans still had henry it wouldnt be the same as him in baltimore. Coaching problem 100%. Mixons not stopping every team from hanging 30+ points on us. Hes not a good pass blocker so he wouldnt really help joe not get murdered every play either.
@@JFTB-i8y Moss was Mixon's replacement, not Chase Brown, and they're paying Moss basically the same money they would have had to pay Mixon, but for less production. Mixon and Chase Brown would be the one-two punch, like the Lions have with Gibbs and Montgomery. We didn't get to see it last year, because they were forcing the majority of the carries on Mixon, and limiting Chase Brown. That's on Taylor, Pollak, and the play design...they continue to refuse to use a split-back formation, which is part of the reason they telegraph all of their runs. You can't be a winner in the AFC North without a solid run game, and losing Mixon took the heart out of the run game, and the locker room. Just look at what Mixon has done for the Texans, especially for Stroud...Mixon should still be a Bengal, along with Reader and Bates.
I would trade Tee to the Raiders for the pass rusher who's name has slipped my mind. I would hire Ben Johnson as HC. I would draft another top OL and DL with first two picks. WR in 3rd round. Go after some top dogs in the trenches. Tired of our lineman not defending Burrow when he gets late hit.
Zac made the call to go smaller at RB in hopes of bigger plays and lost one of the leaders that helped his message be absorbed and heard. And that leader is balling harder than his upgrades at RB The irony is monumental😂😂😂
Exactly 😂😂 they didn’t trust him last week TWICE and give him 2 chances and he MISSED? How do you have confidence?!?! Then still believes there is a chance for the post season?! If we win out yes but even then there could be a possibility we miss oh and the CB that got hurt this past week zac said there is a possibility of him coming back this season after a broken calvacal…
It’s really hard for me to believe Ja Marr and the Bengals couldn’t meet half way on a contract . They agreed on the amount of money . He lost money this season because he didn’t sign. Would have made 17 million more plus a signing bonus . How much does that kind of money make if it’s invested .
Ik we’ve beaten this path like a drum before but we could easily go on a 4 game win streak out the bye, and treat the last two games against Denver and Pitt like playoff games. Pittsburgh is a tough one but it’s at home and Dallas Tenn and Browns should be wins. I can doubt the bengals all I want but as long as Joe burrow is our qb will never stop believing
The Bengals will never change - Its a price we have to pay as fans. There not going to pay and were going to lose Higgins, Hendrickson to start will be gone. The questions will be how long before Joe wants out of Cinny. I would not be surprised if Chase wants out after the last two seasons. The Bengals had a chance to bring people in and they did nothing as they dont care if they finish at the bottom. like I said this is what Cinny fans have been dealing with for years.
I've been saying this over and over ....Logan Wilson can't play at this level. Geno Stone is a sawed off midget. Cam Taylor Britt is too slow. Sam Hubbard is a complete zero, never here his name called for anything. The rest of the defense sucks too. Over and over and over again people, defense wins championships,, the offense is fine just keep bringing in some hogs at offensive line, they are doing fine if they can keep Higgins
The whole coaching staff has issues. starting out 0-2 EVERY DAMN year (0-3 this year) should be a fireable offense. Zac is a bad playcaller. He had no experience in the NFL calling plays. He was an OC for 1 year at UC in college. The draft has been awful outside of the first round picks. they have been especially bad on the offensive and defensive lines. Our O line coach is under performing. We cant run the ball very well. Look at Mixon at Houston. He never should have been let go. Look at our safeties, never should have let them walk 2 years ago. This is a bad team outside of Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Hendrickson, Hilton and Wilson. But Mike Brown will run this in the ground and waste Burrow and chase's prime. He damn well better pay Chase like the best receiver in the league and quit F'ing him over.
My new nick name for Evan Mcpherson is "Maybe Mac". To be fair and all jokes aside, there could be a mechanical issue with the Long Snapper and the Holder that is messing him up.
The Bengals are a team whose ownership is content with a .500 record and always have been. Burrow, Ja’mar, Mac and the over achieving defense took them to the Super Bowls in a 22 win season.
James it's now time for the media in Cincinnati & the fans that aren't tied to Zac Taylor & Duke to seriously start the discussion about whether they can go after Bill Belichick. He would be the best option for Joe Burrow like he was for Tom Brady once upon a time.
As for Zac, he's still a "new" coach. He still gets some slack because this is still his first gig, barely 5 years in. He's done more in his short time than Lewis did in over a decade. Unless Bill wants to take over, i doubt theres a better available option otherwise.
Coach Zac is not to blame for how the team is constructed, maintained and energy (lack there of) by the players. Can he be much better at aggressive play calling (which he has been lately), and coaching to win instead of not to lose (which he has been)...absolutely. But calling for his job as if he hasn't coached us to a Superbowl and would've been b2b2b conference games if not for injuries is absurd. The front office needs to be on the hot seat
Borrow, Chase, Higgins ,and maybe a few others should be "on-the-market" as a package... looking for an organization/team with owners that have demonstrated they are ready, willing, and able to win. Sadly, they are being wasted here....
If he doesn’t go, I will not be participating in this team next year! I know enough about the game to know that play calling has been the problem. I’ve been saying this since week 5 when he called the most ridiculous calls in OT against the Ravens!!! 🤬
I think chase is mad about the extension. But as far as gauging talent that shits on sorry ass Duke Tobin. This man has single handedly robbed this organization blind by stacking draft picks for shitty players, sitting on his hands at trade deadlines, knowing we need defense and you get a running back. I mean come on man.
His play calling worked when we had some of our Superbowl caliber players. Now we don't have some of them and his play calling doesn't work any more! Change some of the plays and turn some of the plays over to Dan Pitcher!
I don’t want to hear no more bad mouthing Evan McPherson,the guy is having a bad stretch in the middle of a bad season all around. It’s not like the guy has been struggling for two plus seasons like local kid Sam Hubbard. Evan knows he’s in a funk,but he’s proven he is one of the best kickers in the league and I have full confidence Evan McPherson will turn it around this year. The Bengals have major issues on defense,also on offense putting a good game plan together for a full game! Now,has the front office made the right moves over the past two off seasons and in FA this year? No,absolutely not! But the coaches and team can do something about,put good game plans together and work their tails off to get back to playing 4 quarters of good football.
Front Office, James....that's where all this is stemming from!! ...CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP!! Refuses to build a strong infrastructure for the future!! Your video is absolutely spot on!! When "finger pointing" starts creeping in...we are in T-R-O-U-B-L-E!!! We MUST keep Joe & Ja'Marr 'happy', at ALL COST!! (cos right now, we are a 2-man Team!).
i think there's been a relatively poor mood in the locker room when the Chase contract didn't get done. The FO keeps showing that players that are good/great for us won't get paid what they want when they want. Esp. when they deserve it and its a no brainer to do so
Unless is was Z Taylor the one who decided who we kept and who we let go… even if we change the coaching staff there isn’t going to change a S** if this Front Office continue to go this cheap and to be confortable to pay only one player or two on their roster when CLEARLY this game is about a TEAM effort!
First off I'm a lifelong Bengals fan Die Hard I live in Dayton Ohio I'll tell you this it doesn't matter if sorry ass Zack Taylor has lost the locker room because the Bengals front office is the worst in the NFL and they won't get rid of him no matter what he does Case Case in point Marvin Lewis also they don't care to Pedro and lose as long as they keep fans in the seats the thing is Joe burrow is going to be an all-time great great he won't stay in Cincinnati past this contract if this front office behaves the way they normally do and don't do anything to help them win Zach Taylor is not the coach that's going to get it done it's clear watching these games
I hate to say this but I'm looking towards next year already.. and to that point if there's no accountability by the organization or if Taylor does not get fired ..if I'm Burrow or Chase I'm muscling my way out of Cincinnati
He has totally lost the locker room. This is a team divided.....an offense that is playing good enough to win and a defense that is not. The offensive players want to call out the defense but they can't. Its only a matter of time before Burrow goes full Carson Palmer on this organization and demands a trade. I give that two more seasons.....maybe until he says he's done playing here. This organization has some REAL issues to figure out with the team and this offseason has the potential to be brutal. SO many players up for contracts.....so many players that we need to keep.... We will no doubt watch Tee, Trey, Hilton, and Hubbard all leave the team this offseason. I know technically Trey is under contract....but look at the season he's putting up. He will hold out for sure. Its a sad state of affairs in Cinci....its going to get worse.
You can’t lose Mixon, Bates, Reader, and now Higgins and expect to compete in this division. I don’t care how good Burrow and Chase are, it’s not good enough.
Zac cannot get over humps. He's proven it for five years. Put the game on the line bengals will lose. Doesn't matter if it's a super bowl or Sunday night against chargers.. with the talent we had we should have 2 Superbowls easily and just now being forced to work for our 3rd.
Can we petition outside the stadium for Mike Brown to sell the team or actually hire a competent staff?! I'm sick of this shit. Taylor wouldn't even be a coaching assistant. If you go back and watch the Superbowl, Taylor made multiple horrible calls throughout the game that cost us.
Mixon, Reader, Perrine, Bates III, Hurst….gone. This is bad man, Outisde of Burrow, Chase, and Hendrickson, who else is clamoring for a Bengals player? And if that’s how it is to just not spend money, the coach HAS to be good! And he’s not!!
Poverty franchise will make poverty moves like injury risk players and potential character issues. Mike Brown isn't like the other owners, he's not flush with cash. The only money making thing he has going is his football franchise. Based on the teams success or lack thereof, is he even good at making football money? The old adage of spending money to make money applies here. Want a successful franchise that brings in more revenue? Stop being cheap with top tier players the teams has drafted.
This silly narrative that Zac Taylor is to blame is getting old. We've had a legitimate chance to win every single game this year. Players not doing there job, or making mistakes in the last 5 mins of the game is not on Zac. He puts them in position to win, do your damn job!!!
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Joe Mixon is another locker room leader that you conveniently forgot to mention. He’s down in Houston dominating and closing out games btw
Doing my fantasy righteous 😂
James Rapien screamed trade Mixon!
Yes, he’s lost the locker room and he’s lost the fan base
He lost me by week 4.
I just wish we would change the scheme and he needs to quit calling plays! The culture would be good if we were winning. For me it’s a tired scheme and teams know what we’re going to do before we do.
@@MeikaiX Me too, week 4 of 2022
Lost me after ineffective trade deadline
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Talk about Chase Brown. He has stepped up and is an absolute menace out there
But he keeps wearing down in the 2nd half. Great back, but we need another guy to help him
Except when he lost the Ravens game
Mixon>Brown
@@handsomejamie7279 they should not have let Mixon go. We could have a superbowl team with the guys they let walk. But I guess you cant pay them all.
@@handsomejamie7279 like joe mixon
If the Bengals Ownership (Mike Brown) messes up the Joe Burrow Era it's over. It's time to adopt Modern Day Methods. We will have another Palmer situation in Two years if Mike Brown doesn't start emptying his pockets. Put Pressure on Mike Brown or Burrow will leave. Simple
Is he a clown? That Mike Brown?…or just going broke? Time will tell. Let’s go guys. Steelers are in big trouble. I’m serious.
If this happens I will no longer be a Bengals fan. Simply an NFL fan.
Palmer isn't in same level as Joe Burrow.
#protestmikebrown ....as fans only thing he cares about is money so send a message for the love of God....don't buy any more tickets or merchandise the rest of the season. If no changes then do it next year also. Then and only then will he do something
@@SheBitesUncensored I hope the Steelers are in the big trouble, what makes you say that though?
Fire Duke Tobin. He single handedly screwed the Bengals season with the defensive roster construction before it even started. This organization has a LOT of front office evolving to do.
This is on Tobin and the management 100%!
Agreed. But Marvin Lewis was doing a lot to get good players, though they weren't the most disciplined. The Bengals really just need to increase scouting department, too
What happened to Lou anarumo
Frank pollack, Taylor, duke Tobin, all needs to be gone.
You are absolutely right! Anyone could see before the season that the defense was going to have severe issues, but not the front office, I guess. Last year with Reader the defense still had its run "D" issues, but without adequately replacing him this year was going to be worse.
The locker room is in jeopardy of being LOST! The Bengals got rid of MANY locker room leaders. Bates, Bell, Reader, Mixon, and Boyd were ALL leaders. It's part of the game for players to leave, BUT you need to replace those guys with more talented players. The Bengals have MISSED on several draft picks and free agents. It's a TERRIBLE recipe for winning. Everyone needs to look in the mirror and hold each other accountable........that's how a machine works, together. When a machines parts don't work together in unison, then the machine eventually BREAKS due to being overworked, trying to make up for the broken part.
CHEERS to ALL
Bell is back this year but great points.
Lost the locker room is an understatement!!!
The problem is ownership and front office. Doesn’t matter who they hire if they can’t bring in decent quality pieces or keep decent quality players. As long as people fill the seats and let Brown use Burrow as a cash cow nothings going to change. He needs to sell the franchise or start spending money on players and scouting staff.
Spot on! We need to completely rebuild on defense.
Paying Chase in 2024 or 2025 wasn't the issue. The issue was letting talent walk out the door.
It didn't help the overall culture. Letting talent walk because they didn't want to pay them what they were worth. In addition to not paying chase this season. Gave the impression of a cheap culture That wants to haggle with their top talent.
That in addition to poor coaching. Led to disaster.
It even goes way back to Kevin Zeitler, one of the best guards in the league now
Amen! Replacing Bates with multiple players that aren’t as good has worked well, no? We spend more money on multiple players than we could have just paid one really good one. You can always get players to fill out a roster, but you can’t always rely on them. Great players elevate others.
Letting bates walk has been a massive whiff of
Firing Zac or Lou won't change much. They did well when they actually had solid players. The majority of the blame should go to Duke Tobin and his team for missing on key draft picks for defense and FAs to replace the good players we let go. Sheldon replaced Reader and hasn't done anything, Moss replaced Mixon and barely did anything, Nick Scott replaced Jesse Bates and sucked, Geno Stone replaced Nick Scott and hasn't done anything. We gotta completely rebuild on defense. See y'all after the bye week
Firing Zac would help Lou isn’t the problem he did great adjustments and we play great against good running backs Derrick Henry and Saquon
I don't know about the locker room, but he has most definitely lost the fans. Myself included.
I don't blame the coaches. At least not yet. I do blame the front office and the Brown Family. This fan base deserves better. I don't see with all of the tax money involved we can't force a sell to a public corporation like the Green Bay Model. Brown Family has been fairly compensated for over 50 years.
I hadn't even thought of that....do it!
Can't blame zack too much on offense when we are blowing their socks off
Me too on the Brown family especially Mike! Tobin only does what he is told
All you have to see is the look on Treys face sitting on the bench after the chargers loss too see Zac has totally lost the locker room! 😞 Burrow and Jamar have the same look of disgust in the interviews after the game. When your super stars have this look they know what the problem is. The players and the fans deserve better than this, it's on this organization to do the right thing at the end of the season. Although I wouldn't bet on it.
I'm not sure he has lost it completely. However some players do seem to be losing trust in Zac. I feel like Zacs biggest heel is clutch time. He doesn't seem to have the ability to put together a scoring drive in clutch time. The play calling is far to vanilla.
They are not coached to win. They are coached not to lose. They pull their punches when they have teams on the ropes. Marvin Lewis coached that way too. You'd never see the Ravens or Steelers do that.
Spot on James - Evan got paid and Chase didn't. Insane to think about from a priority perspective ($ value of contract aside)
Evans White and chase black wat u think was going to happen
@@skenodaboss6104Evan’s cheap and Chase isn’t; Mike Brown is cheap.
Good perspective. Evan will get it right…
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Bad take.
@@A_Lemon_Party how and they let all the good black players go and never get paid but got bum ass players like Sam Hubbard making 10 plus million year.. couldn't pay reader or mixon or Bates or Boyd .wat I'm supposed to think..
We can't do what we did with Marvin and keep Zach for 20 years time to make a change
It was only 16 years
@@SnoopyReads come on, you know the point they were making. Technically they didn’t say Marvin was specifically here 20 years. They said we can’t keep Zac for 20. And honestly, if they kept Marvin around for 16, after bringing them out of the basement and consistently getting them in the playoffs (despite not winning one), I can see Zac’s postseason success in 2021-22 buying him a few more years than Marvin got. I hope not, but this is the Brown family we’re talking about here.
Exactly. Every year we waste Burrow and Chase, is a complete and utter disgrace! We at the very least, need a new voice at DC. Robert Saleh comes to mind. Lou, maybe not from all fault of his own, has been unable to effectively stop any opposing offenses, this season! Hell, we made Andy Dalton look good! They let Reader walk and bring in Rankins, which was one of the biggest miscalculations, of the entire offseason and every Bengal fan expected more from Geno Stone! But at some point, this has to fall on our coaches not putting our players in positions, to succeed!
@@doge-isbetterthandogs7979 they're not going to win the Super Bowl every year, so what do you consider a waste?
@ wtf are you talking about? They are 4-7 and Burrow and Chase are having career years! You at least want to see them make a run in the playoffs. Not falling short against teams, they let off the hook. Why do I even have to explain to you, why this year, is a waste?
The post game press conference of Joe told me everything I need to know. He’s tired, Chase is tired. They can’t play defense too
It’s time for little Zach to go back to coaching peewee football he was never meant to coach at this level !! He’s not built like that. He’s soft and has no sense of what championship football even is !! A new HC is A MUST!! So is a Scouting Dept , OL Coach, DC , GM of Player Personnel.
I always thought the Bengals should tag and trade Tee.
With the evolution of the offense. You need good route technicians and one beast (Jamarr) and good blocking. That’s what they should set up for that’s more long term.
Coaches would’ve kept Jesse and DJ.
Could’ve afforded all of that if you didn’t franchise Tee.
Bring in Bill Belichick next season. We need a proven winner and coach with a championship pedigree. We’re done with the first year head coaches
He could be the DC but I don't see him being the head coach here
@@SnoopyReads I'll take it!
Bill is proven to get the most out of ALL his players like the Bengals wish they could do.
And hope for what? We put Belicheck there we still will have the issue of drafting and FA bad signings
@ if Bill is brought in I believe he will get the responsibility and role to oversee signings and drafting. Think about how many players the patriots drafted in later rounds that were studs. Bill has an eye for talent we just need some holes filled on this roster.
And don’t get me started on our play calling…
Iv never heard Zack once say he was at fault for how bad the season has been
But Joe sits up there every week and takes blame and he’s balling
Taylor is terrible in situational football. His decisions have cost us a more games than they have won. The years they went to SB and AFC championships were IN SPITE of him, not because of him.
I think zacs a great guy and I honestly see him being a good assistant offensive coordinator somewhere. His head coaching days need to dry up in the off season... Give the locker room a Dan Campbell type hype up guy and let's start fresh
YES!!! FIRE ZAC TAYLOR
Don't get me wrong I love Zac for our 2 playoff runs and him giving the city game balls but the 5 year rule is real and no matter what happens the rest of the szn I think it's time to move on specially when there is going to be very good HC available, let's not do what we did with Lewis, we need to revamp are coaches and really think bout getting a real GM, and as a fan base I think we need to be load, for personalities online that rep and talk Bengals need to be even louder so the front office hears us so they can make these changes that they think they might not need to bc they DO!
I’m incredibly worried about the future of this team, there is just so many needs. Having Burrow and Chase is supposed to make you a contender every season. Seems like some dark seasons ahead for us Bengals fans, might be in for a 2-3 year rebuild. I really don’t want Burrow to be Dan Marino and never reach a SB again but if he doesn’t get out of this organization, that might happen unless there are some serious changes within this organization.
Nope, burrow is far better than Dan Marino, we just need a defense that isn’t the worst in the entire league. We have given up 34+ points in 5/11 games this year, chiefs have given up 30 three times in the last three seasons.
@@Brickwilliams I know what we need but I don’t believe in this FO to make that happen and make the right decisions. This defense needs a complete overhaul. We’re gonna be losing Hilton after this season most likely, the FO doesn’t want to give Hendrickson more money so he’ll probably be gone when his contract is up. Not a whole lot of bright spots on this defense
@@iAmJuicee I mean our D can’t get much worse at this point, and we should still be at least 5-6, we’ve lost 6 one score games, I think our season has ultimately been very unlucky, from a bad hold to two missed field goals, to a 4 and 16 last play flag, we just need to hit the draft well this year, spend all of our picks on D
@@Brickwilliams that stat is actually insane🤦🏿♂
@@TripleG12398 it is, they didn’t give up 30 once last year, and hadn’t this year either until the bills game. And people wonder how they keep winning and we don’t….
He has 100% lost the locker room, the culture Zac has instilled is on the verge of collapse. It doesn't help that the way the front office does business by letting stars go when they really should keep them and build a dynasty. The players can see this and it is no doubt contributing to the unrest that we can clearly see. If I was in charge then the only thing in my eyes that keeps Zac his job is win out and make the playoffs. If anything else happens then at the end of the season Zac would be fired. We all know though Mike Brown hardly fires anyone and if Zac keeps his job no matter what, then I expect more of the same shit in 2025.
The bomb went off!!!!!!!.Joe is officially a Bengal now!!!😂😂😂😂
It’s not fair that Evan can blow up games and just go home without talking to anyone. Burrow gotta talk after, so should Evan.
Remember when u defended letting Mixon go.
mixon LOL. thats not the problem. chase brown is good for a lot less money. the problem is the defense and Oline.
He still defends it. It's sad. We all knew it was an oline problem, and a Frank Pollak problem, not a Mixon problem. Once again, you don't move on from productive roster pieces, especially when they're also an important voice in the locker room.
@@thebluelibra5686 mixon would be mediocre like he was last year if he was still on this team. Cant judge keeping a player based on how they perform elsewhere. If the titans still had henry it wouldnt be the same as him in baltimore. Coaching problem 100%. Mixons not stopping every team from hanging 30+ points on us. Hes not a good pass blocker so he wouldnt really help joe not get murdered every play either.
@@JFTB-i8y Moss was Mixon's replacement, not Chase Brown, and they're paying Moss basically the same money they would have had to pay Mixon, but for less production. Mixon and Chase Brown would be the one-two punch, like the Lions have with Gibbs and Montgomery. We didn't get to see it last year, because they were forcing the majority of the carries on Mixon, and limiting Chase Brown. That's on Taylor, Pollak, and the play design...they continue to refuse to use a split-back formation, which is part of the reason they telegraph all of their runs. You can't be a winner in the AFC North without a solid run game, and losing Mixon took the heart out of the run game, and the locker room. Just look at what Mixon has done for the Texans, especially for Stroud...Mixon should still be a Bengal, along with Reader and Bates.
Zac hasn't lost the locker room because he never had the locker room in the first place
I would trade Tee to the Raiders for the pass rusher who's name has slipped my mind.
I would hire Ben Johnson as HC. I would draft another top OL and DL with first two picks. WR in 3rd round. Go after some top dogs in the trenches. Tired of our lineman not defending Burrow when he gets late hit.
And Tee not getting taken care of
Tee is well compensated. He consistently only plays half of the games.
Zac made the call to go smaller at RB in hopes of bigger plays and lost one of the leaders that helped his message be absorbed and heard. And that leader is balling harder than his upgrades at RB The irony is monumental😂😂😂
Bro - stop. He has lost them. They didnt rally for him. Listen to what the players are saying and then compare that to what Taylor is saying...
He lost me by saying he still has confidence in McPherson, I mean what a slap in the face to the fan base
Exactly 😂😂 they didn’t trust him last week TWICE and give him 2 chances and he MISSED? How do you have confidence?!?! Then still believes there is a chance for the post season?! If we win out yes but even then there could be a possibility we miss oh and the CB that got hurt this past week zac said there is a possibility of him coming back this season after a broken calvacal…
It’s really hard for me to believe Ja Marr and the Bengals couldn’t meet half way on a contract . They agreed on the amount of money . He lost money this season because he didn’t sign. Would have made 17 million more plus a signing bonus . How much does that kind of money make if it’s invested .
Chiefs and Bills let their “baggy” receivers walk and are better off because of better defense
Ik we’ve beaten this path like a drum before but we could easily go on a 4 game win streak out the bye, and treat the last two games against Denver and Pitt like playoff games. Pittsburgh is a tough one but it’s at home and Dallas Tenn and Browns should be wins. I can doubt the bengals all I want but as long as Joe burrow is our qb will never stop believing
Bill belichick
The best part about Bill is he is obsessed with Defense and would let the OC run the offense.
He will never come because he understands what the Bengals front office is like.
Won't ever happen
Go see Wicked movie and ask the Wizard to bring bill Belichick here. Even wizard cant pull that one off for poor Dorothy
Never happen
Should of traded Higgins for another pass rusher
Zac has lost “the room”. That is a recipe for disaster. Do not promote mediocrity.
The locker room has left the building 🏈 This team could use a change in coaching staff or bring in a different OC and DC ✌🏻
Yes
The Bengals will never change - Its a price we have to pay as fans. There not going to pay and were going to lose Higgins, Hendrickson to start will be gone. The questions will be how long before Joe wants out of Cinny. I would not be surprised if Chase wants out after the last two seasons. The Bengals had a chance to bring people in and they did nothing as they dont care if they finish at the bottom. like I said this is what Cinny fans have been dealing with for years.
I've been saying this over and over ....Logan Wilson can't play at this level. Geno Stone is a sawed off midget. Cam Taylor Britt is too slow. Sam Hubbard is a complete zero, never here his name called for anything. The rest of the defense sucks too. Over and over and over again people, defense wins championships,, the offense is fine just keep bringing in some hogs at offensive line, they are doing fine if they can keep Higgins
Agreed w everybody else. Bengals won't be better until BrownFamilia decides to be more professional and proactive in good sense
Kevin zeitler is still in the league his is 34 years old. Been on three teams and has played 181/181 games why did we get rid of him
The whole coaching staff has issues. starting out 0-2 EVERY DAMN year (0-3 this year) should be a fireable offense. Zac is a bad playcaller. He had no experience in the NFL calling plays. He was an OC for 1 year at UC in college. The draft has been awful outside of the first round picks. they have been especially bad on the offensive and defensive lines. Our O line coach is under performing. We cant run the ball very well. Look at Mixon at Houston. He never should have been let go. Look at our safeties, never should have let them walk 2 years ago. This is a bad team outside of Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Hendrickson, Hilton and Wilson. But Mike Brown will run this in the ground and waste Burrow and chase's prime. He damn well better pay Chase like the best receiver in the league and quit F'ing him over.
My new nick name for Evan Mcpherson is "Maybe Mac". To be fair and all jokes aside, there could be a mechanical issue with the Long Snapper and the Holder that is messing him up.
We need bill Belichick🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ joe and Ja’marr want to win and win now
Joe reminds me of a sulky teenager at the press conferences. Why does no one bring this up
Because thats how most of us feel too?
Pay J'Marr, keep Tee, get Belichick. Stop dumpster diving for players.
The Bengals are a team whose ownership is content with a .500 record and always have been. Burrow, Ja’mar, Mac and the over achieving defense took them to the Super Bowls in a 22 win season.
James rocking a new Mic.
To be clear, Zac doesn't pay anybody. He just coaches whoever they give him.
Exactly!
Forgot what it felt like to be on top of the division
just think if Joe burrow could have a decent pocket to throw from.....
It’s cam Taylor Britt and McPherson.
James it's now time for the media in Cincinnati & the fans that aren't tied to Zac Taylor & Duke to seriously start the discussion about whether they can go after Bill Belichick. He would be the best option for Joe Burrow like he was for Tom Brady once upon a time.
Time for me to start rooting for the Ravens
You were never a real fan
@ your mom
With the locker room leaders Mixon,Boyd, Reader,Uzoma,Bates lll gone the culture has diminished. 😢
Im not a draft cap expert but i find it hard to believe we could afford burrow and chase and field a competitive team around them
As for Zac, he's still a "new" coach. He still gets some slack because this is still his first gig, barely 5 years in. He's done more in his short time than Lewis did in over a decade. Unless Bill wants to take over, i doubt theres a better available option otherwise.
Coach Zac is not to blame for how the team is constructed, maintained and energy (lack there of) by the players. Can he be much better at aggressive play calling (which he has been lately), and coaching to win instead of not to lose (which he has been)...absolutely. But calling for his job as if he hasn't coached us to a Superbowl and would've been b2b2b conference games if not for injuries is absurd. The front office needs to be on the hot seat
THESE PLAYERS SHOULD TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY TOO! I SEE PLAYERS HINTING THE BLAME ON SOMEONE WITHOUT EVEN SAYING IT.
Front office has tried free agency, tried trading, and I think it’s fair to point the finger at coaching
Borrow, Chase, Higgins ,and maybe a few others should be "on-the-market" as a package... looking for an organization/team with owners that have demonstrated they are ready, willing, and able to win. Sadly, they are being wasted here....
If he doesn’t go, I will not be participating in this team next year! I know enough about the game to know that play calling has been the problem. I’ve been saying this since week 5 when he called the most ridiculous calls in OT against the Ravens!!! 🤬
I think chase is mad about the extension. But as far as gauging talent that shits on sorry ass Duke Tobin. This man has single handedly robbed this organization blind by stacking draft picks for shitty players, sitting on his hands at trade deadlines, knowing we need defense and you get a running back. I mean come on man.
His play calling worked when we had some of our Superbowl caliber players. Now we don't have some of them and his play calling doesn't work any more! Change some of the plays and turn some of the plays over to Dan Pitcher!
It’s all chipping away right in front of our eyes.
I don’t want to hear no more bad mouthing Evan McPherson,the guy is having a bad stretch in the middle of a bad season all around. It’s not like the guy has been struggling for two plus seasons like local kid Sam Hubbard. Evan knows he’s in a funk,but he’s proven he is one of the best kickers in the league and I have full confidence Evan McPherson will turn it around this year. The Bengals have major issues on defense,also on offense putting a good game plan together for a full game! Now,has the front office made the right moves over the past two off seasons and in FA this year? No,absolutely not! But the coaches and team can do something about,put good game plans together and work their tails off to get back to playing 4 quarters of good football.
Front Office, James....that's where all this is stemming from!! ...CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP!! Refuses to build a strong infrastructure for the future!!
Your video is absolutely spot on!! When "finger pointing" starts creeping in...we are in T-R-O-U-B-L-E!!!
We MUST keep Joe & Ja'Marr 'happy', at ALL COST!! (cos right now, we are a 2-man Team!).
i think there's been a relatively poor mood in the locker room when the Chase contract didn't get done. The FO keeps showing that players that are good/great for us won't get paid what they want when they want. Esp. when they deserve it and its a no brainer to do so
i mean it took to the day before travel on week 1 when they signed Burrow
They don’t pay players who perform on the field, yet they pay outside players who under perform. What do you expect!!!!
Unless is was Z Taylor the one who decided who we kept and who we let go… even if we change the coaching staff there isn’t going to change a S** if this Front Office continue to go this cheap and to be confortable to pay only one player or two on their roster when CLEARLY this game is about a TEAM effort!
Tank for Tetairoa
Congratulations that the way you need talk. Next video talk with the front office about what waiting for fire Zac Taylor and the General manager
Zack Taylor had four years to address their needs in the dtaft and they didn’t. Burrow is getting hurried a record amount of time it’s embarrassing.
First off I'm a lifelong Bengals fan Die Hard I live in Dayton Ohio I'll tell you this it doesn't matter if sorry ass Zack Taylor has lost the locker room because the Bengals front office is the worst in the NFL and they won't get rid of him no matter what he does Case Case in point Marvin Lewis also they don't care to Pedro and lose as long as they keep fans in the seats the thing is Joe burrow is going to be an all-time great great he won't stay in Cincinnati past this contract if this front office behaves the way they normally do and don't do anything to help them win Zach Taylor is not the coach that's going to get it done it's clear watching these games
I hate to say this but I'm looking towards next year already.. and to that point if there's no accountability by the organization or if Taylor does not get fired ..if I'm Burrow or Chase I'm muscling my way out of Cincinnati
i see absolute disgust on Burrow's face. the guy is just done with the incompetence thats all around him
He has totally lost the locker room. This is a team divided.....an offense that is playing good enough to win and a defense that is not. The offensive players want to call out the defense but they can't. Its only a matter of time before Burrow goes full Carson Palmer on this organization and demands a trade. I give that two more seasons.....maybe until he says he's done playing here. This organization has some REAL issues to figure out with the team and this offseason has the potential to be brutal. SO many players up for contracts.....so many players that we need to keep.... We will no doubt watch Tee, Trey, Hilton, and Hubbard all leave the team this offseason. I know technically Trey is under contract....but look at the season he's putting up. He will hold out for sure. Its a sad state of affairs in Cinci....its going to get worse.
It was a blessing in disguise for him not to get that contract this year, even if Joe stays Jamar will not
That is not why chase brought up money 🤦🏾♂️ bruh you reaching his answer was simple
You can’t lose Mixon, Bates, Reader, and now Higgins and expect to compete in this division. I don’t care how good Burrow and Chase are, it’s not good enough.
The only constant in all the years of dreadful teams is the ownership
He said “Ask Zac” after the loss to the Patriots week 1. This is nothing new. It’s obvious he has lost the locker room.
man the bengals aint winning a chip with zac he not built like that
With players like Burrow, Chase and Higgins . They allow this disfunction to happen . It’s shameful !
They were one play away fr back to back super bowl,when and where, didn't the chief have the ball last, delusional denial runs deep in Cincinnati.
Chiefs cheating runs deep in KC.
Oh, and the Bills are going to take care of KC this year.
I dk why but I feel it's not just a money Mac thing... Kickers all over the league are missing a lot of kicks... It's weird
The answer is "YEAH"!!!!!
Zac cannot get over humps. He's proven it for five years. Put the game on the line bengals will lose. Doesn't matter if it's a super bowl or Sunday night against chargers.. with the talent we had we should have 2 Superbowls easily and just now being forced to work for our 3rd.
He had a lot of help from the front office.
Can we petition outside the stadium for Mike Brown to sell the team or actually hire a competent staff?! I'm sick of this shit. Taylor wouldn't even be a coaching assistant. If you go back and watch the Superbowl, Taylor made multiple horrible calls throughout the game that cost us.
James streaming from a different studio?
Mixon, Reader, Perrine, Bates III, Hurst….gone. This is bad man, Outisde of Burrow, Chase, and Hendrickson, who else is clamoring for a Bengals player? And if that’s how it is to just not spend money, the coach HAS to be good! And he’s not!!
It’s the D LINE and TIGHT END
Poverty franchise will make poverty moves like injury risk players and potential character issues.
Mike Brown isn't like the other owners, he's not flush with cash. The only money making thing he has going is his football franchise. Based on the teams success or lack thereof, is he even good at making football money? The old adage of spending money to make money applies here. Want a successful franchise that brings in more revenue? Stop being cheap with top tier players the teams has drafted.
This silly narrative that Zac Taylor is to blame is getting old. We've had a legitimate chance to win every single game this year. Players not doing there job, or making mistakes in the last 5 mins of the game is not on Zac. He puts them in position to win, do your damn job!!!