Free Air Roll vs Directional Air Roll… A Rocket League Experiment

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  • @grofakrl
    @grofakrl Год назад +127

    i feel like its kinda chalked tho tbh, being 100x more used to directional vs free going into this - need a video of like "i played 1 month of only free air roll to compare to directional air roll" or something like that (it requires practice to use properly)
    mad respect for the experiment tho, you're onto something🙌

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад +6

      i was going to say the same thing

    • @enyraries
      @enyraries Год назад +1

      If we bind directional air roll to a trigger, we can moderate the speed at which we are turning, giving us as much control as free roll. Technically speaking directional on the trigger would be much better than free roll. I've always been better at free roll persnally. The differences in what's "better" probably make little to no difference in most ranks, and personal preference will be much more helpful.

    • @tenacitytv_
      @tenacitytv_  Год назад +27

      I used to only used Free Air roll up until I hit Grand Champ before I switched to mainly Air roll right. Now I'm definitely more used to directional but I still have all those years of only using free air roll and I think that definitely still allows me to use it with very good control. And after using both for so long and getting good at both I'd still absolutely say directional is the better move. Once you have full control with directional you can move in ways that you just simply can't do while only using free!

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад

      @@tenacitytv_ I totally agree but you did the video wrong you only used free air roll on l2 and that was wrong you have to set a directional air roll to the trigger like air roll right or left to control the speed of your spin you only used your direction air roll on l3 you was supposed to put it on l2

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад +1

      @@tenacitytv_ so can you please do a updated test because it was the wrong information and I would really love to see you try it the right way much love my man

  • @tylerwillems9358
    @tylerwillems9358 Год назад +34

    I think the one huge advantage of using directional air roll is the ability to turn on more axis than free air roll. There are a lot of instances where you need your car on a certain side of the ball to make the best play, and directional air roll will allow you to not only position on that side, but to turn your car's orientation to also have better position (nose on the ball for example). Sometimes with free air roll, it just isn't possible to do both things simultaneously.

  • @fintanf1
    @fintanf1 Год назад +41

    Hi, gc1 speaking here using free airroll. I absolutely don’t recommend it because mechanics are way harder to learn. If you’re a low rank please use directional, it’ll help you so much when you’re higher

    • @omniimarket_
      @omniimarket_ Год назад

      Im champ, and Im also using free air roll, I cant taught myself directional one... but I think I will need to force myself to improve

    • @raymondcarter9810
      @raymondcarter9810 Год назад +2

      Gc1 here with 1500 hours and lots of failures. 300hrs alone spent on airroll. Free air roll. Definitely wish I didn't listen to my friend when I was plat. I can do double flip resets but not consistently. So much extra strain on your forearms too lmao. All the thumb movements can give you a nasty carpel tunnel/pain issue 😆

    • @mateshprince1535
      @mateshprince1535 3 месяца назад

      im champ 2 im trying to learn directional now before its too late. It really never is though there are pros like alpha54 that dont even use directional airrol which is pretty crazy. I mean i can hit flip resets easily with free but watching pros and freestylers get them looks so much better and smoother

    • @extremenoobxd4183
      @extremenoobxd4183 Месяц назад

      ​@mateshprince1535Yo I'm diamond and today I just discovered that there was free air roll and actually I was using only directional one 😭 I was looking whenever it was bad to use only one or to combine them both but I think I'll stick with directional one

    • @jcbloxNL
      @jcbloxNL 27 дней назад

      Not true a gold here that uses free air roll and can flip reset musty

  • @dansbigfanguitarist
    @dansbigfanguitarist Год назад +6

    While directional air roll is definitely better than non directional air roll, it’s fair to say the biggest issue for you is how much more used to directional air roll you are compared to free roll.
    I’ve been learning directional air roll, and my control is less consistent now without free roll, BUT I am doing some things better when I maintain control, so I’m seeing other benefits already. It’s just constantly uncomfortable.
    I will say, that as long as you practice directional air roll over time and then just start adding it in here and there, it makes the growing pains a lot less severe and become much easier than just trying to constantly force it, but I also made it GC without it, which I think gave me a good baseline to learn it quickly.

  • @burnout7166
    @burnout7166 Год назад +17

    GC 2 here who uses free air roll. The key to good car control is actually becoming comfortable with both free air roll and directional. I use free air roll when approaching aerial hits and when I'm looking to shoot the ball on net, and I use directional air roll for first touches, air dribbles, and half flips. I even use directional air roll to tornado spin last second on aerial hits to give me a stronger hit on the ball. Doing so barely sticks your corner out and get less surface area on the ball. When it comes to gaining flip resets or weird touches on the ball to get around defenders, I use free air roll because it is the most comfortable to me. I actually use free air roll and directional when air dribbling. In order to get the ball where I want it, I use free air roll and then use directional air roll once it is locked on my car.

    • @readyt0hunt
      @readyt0hunt Год назад +1

      I’m in C3 and I’ve never once used directional air roll, wonder what could’ve been if I started off using it 😂

    • @ByTrizzz
      @ByTrizzz Год назад

      Same for me man

    • @antoineblondel8134
      @antoineblondel8134 Год назад

      Hey man
      What are your bindings if you don't mind? 😊

    • @burnout7166
      @burnout7166 Год назад +1

      @@antoineblondel8134On a PlayStation controller I have X as jump, square as free air roll and power slide, circle is boost, and triangle is ball cam. I use my thumb to press all of these when I need to, meaning that sometimes I press all of these at once with just my thumb. And I have air roll right bound to R1. These bindings work for me because they were the standard settings when I picked up the game in 2015. However it may be better to put boost/power slide on L1 but I’m too used to the fat finger method.

    • @antoineblondel8134
      @antoineblondel8134 Год назад

      @@burnout7166 yeah I get you thanks!
      I'm currently C1 and I have always been using free air roll but I'm trying to switch to right air roll and that's why I'm asking around. Tbf I've no idea how to switch hahaha. Like it seems so unnatural to rotate automatically and not by myself but I guess it ll be better on the long run

  • @fishyrishy788
    @fishyrishy788 Год назад +7

    I must say normal air roll in the short term will get you to do well, and everything is consistent. But finding the angles to touch the ball and feeling like you can reach the ball no matter where it is feels much nicer when you have the access of directional air roll. I HIGHLY recommend putting in the time for directional air roll. The best way I did it was using free play slowing the game to 50% and then observing when I go in the air how I would turn my car to get left and right. Then find out how you can go backwards and forwards, angle the car up and down. And keep doing this for any scenario you might think will be awkward and its soo efficient and fast learning air roll.

    • @GroovyCollier
      @GroovyCollier Год назад +1

      What's your rank? No knock, just curious from a GC with 3000 hours of free air roll

    • @fishyrishy788
      @fishyrishy788 Год назад

      @@GroovyCollier Im D3, I have only like 144 hours in the game. But I train mechs for the fun of it. I haven't really taken ranked seriously for me to climb, I barely even play. When I do get on, I play some ranked games with my friends and just train mechs. I learned how to speed flip since Gold 3 lmao. I do know that I am actually committed to climbing with my current skill level, I place myself around C2. This is based on other Champ players I have played with btw.

    • @fishyrishy788
      @fishyrishy788 Год назад

      It may not sound like I am experienced enough but with minimal hours I see a very large difference from normal to directional and in my opinion it's much easier for aerial plays.

    • @deleteduser36b2cb28
      @deleteduser36b2cb28 Год назад

      ​@@fishyrishy788how do u slow to 50%?

    • @fishyrishy788
      @fishyrishy788 Год назад

      @@deleteduser36b2cb28 Go to training, open settings and under the training tab which you will already be under it will have a game speed percentage bar and just adjust it.

  • @v-niftytrickster4166
    @v-niftytrickster4166 Год назад +12

    Also Tenacity, nobody ever said you have to constantly spin with free air roll. I feel like having simpler inputs is an advantage of free air roll

    • @SamuelSaveli
      @SamuelSaveli Год назад

      you dont have to , but spinning makes you reach the ball faster, so you would want to

    • @JacobSkatezz
      @JacobSkatezz Год назад +2

      ​@Saveli Amaru šAKA no it doesn't boost makes u reach the ball faster spinning is to slow ur car down and get softer or harder touches on the ball

    • @eckleyy
      @eckleyy 6 месяцев назад

      What's your rank?

  • @alexc5243
    @alexc5243 Год назад +7

    Directional air roll all the way. I only use free air roll for things like wave dashes or very small corrections.
    There are some aerial maneuvers that just aren’t possible without directional air roll. It makes it so much easier to make the perfect touch. HOWEVER, I’m sure that some people could argue that you can still make the perfect touch using free air roll, but I feel like directional air roll makes it way easier to put yourself in the correct position, or to make those small adjustments in order to put yourself in the correct position.

    • @darioleone3183
      @darioleone3183 Год назад

      Im Champ 2 and i cant directional air Roll idk how it works, i cant Control the ball in the air.

    • @EasilySteezily
      @EasilySteezily Год назад

      ​@darioleone3183 nobody does till they practice a lot

  • @pedrosolorzano6020
    @pedrosolorzano6020 Год назад +4

    Just to clarify for anyone here, free could be harder to master but it gives you a wider sense of freedom, no pun intended. Directional feels locked at which movement set you can do depending on your current movement, with free you can do all aerial styles in one flight if you wanted to. Wouldn't be surprised if all of this would be argued by someone that prefers directional, I think it really comes down to feels, free just feels more in control for me.

    • @To2mo23
      @To2mo23 Год назад +1

      While it's probably fair to say that free airroll lets you have more fine control over the exact movement you make, it's objective that there are certain things you cannot do with free that you can do with directional. Directional airroll allows you to keep your left/right turning mid-air while also airrolling, and if you look at zen's controls he actually has directional airroll bound to his triggers, which allows him to fine-tune the speed of his air roll while still maintaining the ability to turn simultaneously.
      It's generally down to preference, and I think it's still good to have free airroll bound if you're only using 1 directional airroll button, which is how I've been doing it for years, however if I could instantly learn new controls without having to grind new muscle memory, I'd definitely opt to go for how Zen does it, since it seems like the clear winner IMO.

    • @ConnMannMusic
      @ConnMannMusic Год назад

      @@To2mo23 zen uses free air roll and air roll left. I’ve tried directional air roll on both triggers and it’s straight impossible not to mess up flips like that lol

  • @alkers100
    @alkers100 Год назад +4

    You can do the functional equivalent of a tornado spin with free air roll if you feather the air roll button while holding left/right on the left thumbstick

    • @GroovyCollier
      @GroovyCollier Год назад

      Interesting. As a GC2ish player that uses free air roll, I never paid any attention to that. I do think that free air roll can be vary viable if you are used to it. Tenacity has a bit of bias here because his muscle memory is with directional air roll. I don't blame him.

  • @hardcoresaltstorm9503
    @hardcoresaltstorm9503 Год назад +1

    1000 hours with directional air roll is always going to feel better than what little practice you have with free air roll. More than 5 times you tried to use directional (which was unbinded) and gave the ball away, showing it's in your instinct to use it. Give free air roll something like 100 hours practice and then we can have a look at some relevant data

    • @raymondcarter9810
      @raymondcarter9810 Год назад

      Definitely a bias I noticed. Harmless and not meant with ill intent, but still clearly biased. You're right. Data is not concrete enough.

  • @shadowqerz4267
    @shadowqerz4267 Год назад +1

    Im Diamond 3 and using free airroll. I feel more comfortable with it because I don‘t get the directional airroll movement. I Hit much doubletaps and stuff like this with free airroll.

  • @khirondb
    @khirondb Год назад +1

    WAIT UNTIL YOU DING DONGS FIND OUT THOSE ''MOVE'' BINDINGS (not the normal ones, the ones way at the end of the keybinds list)

  • @Loodasavage
    @Loodasavage Год назад +4

    Thanks man. You answered my questions and thank you again for all the tips you give us.
    I am an air roll right and left user myself

  • @owenhunter9916
    @owenhunter9916 Год назад +2

    You should try air roll left/right on your left trigger so that you have access to dynamic air roll, which you can control how fast you roll

  • @alexc5243
    @alexc5243 Год назад +22

    I’d also like to highlight on Tenacity’s point of “the less you care about winning, the better off you’ll be.” I totally agree with this.
    About a year ago, I used to only play competitive and it would put me in a bad mind state. I would focus too much on my rank, feel pressured to win a game in order to grind MMR and my play style would suffer because of my mind state.
    Ever since then, I’ve turned off ranks and mmr in bakkesmod and have focused strictly on my mechanics, my opponents mechanics and not getting in my own head about what a person may or may not be capable of depending on their rank. I’ve been only playing casual for the last year but I went from being diamond 2 or 3 last year to consistently going against players with GC titles (don’t know what rank I’m playing in) but the skill level is much higher than what I used to play and it all came from just focusing purely on mechanics and nothing else.

  • @DontJustListenTALK2
    @DontJustListenTALK2 Год назад +1

    free air roll is best used to shift direction in air for me if I want to go left or right making lots of small adjustments. A good test would be just to fly around the field with the ball in the center. If I want to go clockwise or counter clockwise. Its easier, but with directional air roll it can be harder. Its like looking left but going right. try out the training pack uncomfortable saves rocketleauge is not just shot attempts strong defense leads a great offense.

  • @iamzacke
    @iamzacke Год назад +1

    Since 2016, i've only used air roll left and right. Never really tried free air roll cause the concept just seemed so inefficient to me.

    • @raymondcarter9810
      @raymondcarter9810 Год назад

      What rank are you currently? I Love the game so far

    • @iamzacke
      @iamzacke Год назад +1

      @@raymondcarter9810 I quit the game, reached mid GC2 but lost the passion for it

    • @raymondcarter9810
      @raymondcarter9810 Год назад

      @@iamzacke damn. I just started Dec 2020 and hit a wall at gc1. If you ever want to come back. There are still good people around 😊

    • @iamzacke
      @iamzacke Год назад +1

      @@raymondcarter9810 Yeah the people are fine, It’s more that after Gc1 there isnt much to learn anymore, it’s all about getting more and more consistent. And putting in thousands of hours

    • @raymondcarter9810
      @raymondcarter9810 Год назад

      @iamzacke8318 Yeah, im getting to the burnt out stage but love the game. It's hard to get past this hurdle. As an adult, I don't have hours and hours like the kids do. Maybe play 16 hours a week and 8 of them is dedicated training. Kind of wild. I can learn to be the best at double taps, but then I neglect other areas. Even when I have an all around solid grasp on everything. Wave dashes, ceiling shots, aerials, speed flips, flip resets. At the end of the day, there is someone on the other side with more time and way more consistency. This game is supposed to be goofy and fun. But with all things considered, it does begin to feel like you're climbing a mountain barefooted. Obviously, it's not life threatening, but you get my point. You don't have to respond to this. Ranting. My long tangent. Basically saying I can see where you're coming from

  • @tomchappy3388
    @tomchappy3388 Год назад

    "Binded" *BOUND*

  • @WiCk3dCj
    @WiCk3dCj Год назад +2

    One thing I will say with free air roll your sensitivity is gonna play a big part if that’s all you’re gonna use like you don’t wanna use really high sense with free air roll

    • @CactousMan639
      @CactousMan639 Год назад

      Well, I use high sense with free air-roll without an issue D= (still a noob player, though).

    • @WiCk3dCj
      @WiCk3dCj Год назад

      @@CactousMan639 I would try to lower your sense I use 1.3 on both but with a .05 dead zone the lower sense helps you get better first touches when you’re in the air and doing air dribbles and stuff (once you get more time in the game you’ll learn all of that the game really is time based just gotta put time into it)

  • @Prkwydrv
    @Prkwydrv Год назад

    I’m GC and only use free air roll. When I got into playing I started with directional air roll.. some dude told me it’s trash and I should just play with the free one. So here i am stuck with mechanics sooo bad

  • @iosmotions1348
    @iosmotions1348 Год назад

    I literally ONLY play free air roll, I'm c2, you definitely can be good but I will say I do struggle at times, my boost is B, air roll is X, jump is A, and ball came and free cam is Y all on an Xbox one controller. So the reason it's so difficult is bc my thumb has to be on 3 buttons at one time basically

  • @jamesbloomfield4189
    @jamesbloomfield4189 Год назад

    OK I found my self cracking up at 18min 43 seconds. I rewatched like 3 times to be sure. But I'm pretty sure you were on track to say they seemed so happy. like we not happy let's learn directional air roll. 😂

  • @RichyMTB
    @RichyMTB Год назад +2

    For these who are wondering he used the Word: „AirRoll“
    About 90 times in a 20 minute long Video

  • @BLOOJ97
    @BLOOJ97 Год назад

    ive been ssl using free airroll and never touched directional and usually sit in gc2-3

  • @Whopper3
    @Whopper3 Год назад +1

    Im champ 2 and i have just started using directional air roll. Trust me it is so much more control with directional air roll. Im still getting used to it but i have way more control with directional air roll.

  • @Keyowick
    @Keyowick Год назад +1

    bind your directional air roll to l2 Instead of l3 when you slowly push the l2 trigger it makes you spin slowly and the more you push the trigger in the faster the air roll spin that’s what the debate is about because you can ease into a air dribble then speed up with directional air roll

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад

      I totally agree but you did the video wrong you only used free air roll on l2 and that was wrong you have to set a directional air roll to the trigger like air roll right or left to control the speed of your spin you only used your direction air roll on l3 you was supposed to put it on l2

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад

      I tried it and it makes a difference but i’m only diamond 2 so it really doesn’t do much but I would want to see how you would do with it in a updated video

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад

      Can somebody help get his attention I would love a updated video for the guys

  • @brutalnoodle8316
    @brutalnoodle8316 Год назад +1

    Yeah it’s hard to say with this experiment being that you’ve put thousands of hours into directional air roll… give free air roll a thousand hours and then we’ll see.

  • @tim68453
    @tim68453 Год назад +7

    i've started to learn like aerial shots from the ground, like double touches, flip resets etc with free air roll. I can't do any of that off of the wall, do you suggest directional air roll?

    • @ethanfinch6899
      @ethanfinch6899 Год назад +1

      that wont change anything, just keep practicing and youll be better

  • @Chaos5415
    @Chaos5415 Год назад

    Earned urself a new sub!!!

  • @Zxatts
    @Zxatts Год назад

    Did nobody notice that he got put into 4 matches with the ^ ^ guy in competitive

  • @nathanx5906
    @nathanx5906 Год назад

    I’ve never used free air roll in my life

  • @saltypepper6287
    @saltypepper6287 Год назад

    I played before directional air roll and never switched... tried to but it was to difficult, I got to accustom to free roll

  • @_KaizenNinja
    @_KaizenNinja Год назад

    IMO it's best to use free air roll for possibilities and directional for consistency.
    However, I believe free air roll is better if you can master it given its possibilities for switch ups.

  • @DaLions_Den
    @DaLions_Den Год назад

    bro zen puts airoll left on a trigger or l2 giving you the best of both worlds. it's insane the amount of potential it has

  • @abelinkinxvi1735
    @abelinkinxvi1735 Год назад

    Free roll to me helps alignment more than rotating fully, but I’m not experienced enough to use that many inputs simultaneously.

  • @actuallyrealvexy
    @actuallyrealvexy Год назад +1

    Can you do a vid of your controls. I want to see how much better urs then mine is rn.

  • @Cartoffelrl
    @Cartoffelrl Год назад +1

    New vid yay bro love your content

  • @superspeederyt4907
    @superspeederyt4907 2 дня назад

    i believe you have not used the whole potential of free air roll as, the whole time you used free air roll you only turned right, but in free air roll you can turn even faster than air roll right because you can go left AND right, by going both directions, you can turn only a little bit instead of a whole spin

  • @Nicolelillie
    @Nicolelillie Год назад +1

    Personally I prefer directional air roll but there is a few freestylers that use free air roll take tornado for example I'm pretty sure he uses free air roll but you have 5k+ hrs of directional air roll but if you started free air roll and still did free air roll than you would say the opposite but the reason it was hard is because you have 5k+ hrs of directional. Same for me I have 1.1k hours with derectional so it's hard but in conclusion which ever you have most practice in you'll be better in.

  • @Bluhcops
    @Bluhcops Год назад

    I've almost made it to champ with free air roll but just started to actually be able to use it on air dribbles and flip resets. I think it's possible to get really good but not to hit top player status with it.

  • @MiguelGomes001
    @MiguelGomes001 Год назад +1

    Talking sh.. u know saying something 😂😂 11:54

  • @gadex3947
    @gadex3947 Год назад

    "I was out here talking sh-"
    *remembers he's on twitch

  • @dcap09876
    @dcap09876 Год назад +1

    Logic tells me that air roll at the top levels might hurt you if you use it for no real purpose. If a needed last second direction change to avoid a goalie occurs then do it sure. but if the goals open it will just slow you down. Thats simple logic. ive even seen pros trying to over do things and miss very important shots in tourneys right here youtube. knowledge is knowing how to do an intricate shot, wisdom is knowing when to do it. Listen to his words too, not just what you're watching. Its actually more important

  • @lxqourhits
    @lxqourhits Год назад

    this tells me to do directional airbroll nown😂

  • @v-niftytrickster4166
    @v-niftytrickster4166 Год назад +1

    Been trying to learn directional air roll for a while now and although I have some control, anything I can do with directional air I can still do better with free air roll😔

  • @sprunchyboi8408
    @sprunchyboi8408 Год назад

    this vid made me switch from free to directional💀never going back to free air roll

  • @CarpeCerebrum
    @CarpeCerebrum Год назад

    4:54 yeah this. I never give a peepeepoopoo about win or lose, my lifetime is precious so i play for fun when i can play. i queue immediately for rank because casual is garbo. c2 right now i think although mightve gone back down to c1 at this point idk. Point is, its a video game, i play for fun. Also I barely roll. straight air with minor rolls when needed, it's not pretty but it works for now.

  • @Terros.
    @Terros. Год назад

    Thank you for making this vid

  • @HelloImTriplez
    @HelloImTriplez Год назад +105

    Someone count how many times he says airroll😂

    • @milorl4476
      @milorl4476 Год назад +4

      he done 14 in the intro i think

    • @milorl4476
      @milorl4476 Год назад +1

      u tik 1:05

    • @Jimmeh_16
      @Jimmeh_16 Год назад

      I lost track around 8 lol

    • @RichyMTB
      @RichyMTB Год назад +10

      90 (+-1)

    • @RichyMTB
      @RichyMTB Год назад +5

      No cap, counted it

  • @novocaine88
    @novocaine88 Год назад

    I've never used free air roll. Always had left and right bound to L1 and L2 since day one. I can't fathom how free air roll even works in comparison. Either way though it doesn't matter. If you grind a set of controls enough, there's no skill limit.

  • @shootgreens9146
    @shootgreens9146 Год назад

    he sees how us lower rank people feel with air control

  • @vdfritzz
    @vdfritzz Год назад

    6:43 lol the only time i touch free air roll is on speed kickoffs, opposite of what you do, curious

  • @dragon-xx1tq
    @dragon-xx1tq Год назад

    all 3 is the better option i switch between using left right and overall air roll situationally i mainly use left right to orient myself and i use normal for quick accurate adjustments for things like flicks and air dribbles ive played maybe 80 hrs now and im plat so i think im doing pretty alright with it

  • @PedroPascoaPedro
    @PedroPascoaPedro Год назад

    That was also set my airroll to l3 when i fisrt started playing, but after going through two controllers with the same stick drift problem, I knew I had to change. I've had it in r2 and l2 meanwhile and non of them feel as good. Too bad I'm not rich

  • @brutalnoodle8316
    @brutalnoodle8316 Год назад +1

    I’ve only ever used free air roll. Only played the game consistently for 2 years. Peaked at champ 2 so far. No flip resets.

    • @raymondcarter9810
      @raymondcarter9810 Год назад +2

      I can do flip resets and double ones. Free air roll. But they arent as pretty as directional people. GC btw. Issue is, which you'll see; half flips are so much harder. Getting the perfect touch after the reset is harder. If you haven't spent hundreds of hours on free air roll yet, don't. Use directional(coming from someone who only uses free). Alot less strain on the hands too

  • @enyraries
    @enyraries Год назад +1

    technically speaking, free roll gives you more subtle control as well as being easy to learn (being able to move the joystick more/less giving you more control over speed of the free roll). Directional input gives you more efficiency (left +neutral left in only 1 press of a button) but you can't control speed. Thanovic just released a video, and people have been putting directional air roll on the TRIGGER. This gives directional air roll the same control as free roll, making it better (only on triggers). Plus you can do a weird neutral jump while twisting, may be a new movement tech who knows. Please lmk if you agree/disagree! Tenacity you need to switch your binds! Lol

    • @tenacitytv_
      @tenacitytv_  Год назад +1

      Yeah I still use both types of air roll but I used them at different times. I'll use free air roll for small and precise movements and air roll right for control in the air or recoveries

    • @enyraries
      @enyraries Год назад

      @TenacityTv I don't know if I have the patience to make such a big switch but swapping the directional to the trigger could be huge for the precise movements, since youre already goated at it. I loved directional air roll on my left stick for half flips but idk how you do it all the time like that lol.

    • @chamberlan888
      @chamberlan888 Год назад +1

      Binding air roll to triggers was enough for me to decide I don't need free air roll anymore. I only used free roll for recoveries / wave dashes since learning directional air roll anyway. There's definitely a learning curve with timing trigger release so you aren't still holding brake / accelerate when you land if you don't want to be but I feel like it's much better for my movement in the long run.

    • @enyraries
      @enyraries Год назад

      @@chamberlan888 I tried for a bit and could NOT half flip to save my life.

  • @x3Linc
    @x3Linc Год назад +2

    I’m kinda like you I’m only using free air roll but (think) that I want to switch I just can’t get a grip on how to use directional air roll, are there any tips you can give me? And as a long shot could you train me?

  • @urnannn
    @urnannn 5 месяцев назад

    please explain how you transitioned from free air roll to directional. thank you

  • @hoi1899
    @hoi1899 Год назад

    Nice video keep up the good work 👍

  • @A_corofcb
    @A_corofcb Год назад

    I took a shot every time he said air roll. I watched this video when it was posted. I just woke up from a coma 7 days later 🙏 while in a coma, I dreamt of doing air rolls through those rings

  • @ohawk9
    @ohawk9 Год назад

    As someone who's used both directional and free, i can confirm directional is the better one. Been using free for over 2 years and only been about 6 months with directional. I've made more progress in mechanics, rank and general game pace and speed including ball and car control in these 6 months with directional than i had in the 2 years of free, keeping in mind i havent even been spending time in Freeplay for directional whereas i spent hours in training for free. Just my opinion and experience tho, open to hear anyone else's

  • @T3MPESTT126
    @T3MPESTT126 Год назад

    Love your content Tena! 🔥💯

  • @riplippenoutdoors8909
    @riplippenoutdoors8909 Год назад

    A video idea. Put a player who strictly uses free air roll against a player with directional im a free air roll only player d3 and i feel just as good as other people

  • @hexifyylol
    @hexifyylol Год назад

    Thank You Bro U Helped Me

  • @txrpedo
    @txrpedo Год назад

    Banger experiment.

  • @x3Linc
    @x3Linc Год назад

    Yessssssss this is what I needed

  • @jcnl6650
    @jcnl6650 Год назад +1

    I always use air roll right, sometimes I just instinctively use free air roll though

  • @jeffmark6962
    @jeffmark6962 Год назад

    Love the content tena keep it up

  • @Afreti
    @Afreti Год назад

    I've only used Free Roll all throughout my time playing rocket league. Yup. We got it tough sometimes.

  • @cartireee
    @cartireee Год назад +1

    Huh ive never thought it mattered very much, I always had both left and right air roll bound since I was silver and now I have really good car control since I can use both (I’m champ 2 btw) I thought everyone did that but I guess not

  • @Rev3xX_Playz
    @Rev3xX_Playz Год назад

    He should’ve binned his free air roll to the button his right air roll is

  • @seansmall3401
    @seansmall3401 Год назад

    Im confused, how are you using air roll left on kickoff? I see you holding it down but youre still flipping in the same direction that your joystick is pointed (left). Isn't the point of using air roll on kickoff so that you can pre right turn AND get the air flip joystick angle in the same direction? Aka hold joystick right but flip left because the air roll left adds 45(?) degrees of left input?

  • @Snakes_Explained
    @Snakes_Explained Год назад

    Directional is how I learned it. I can’t be assed to learn free air roll and it doesn’t feel like it’s that much of a benefit if any at all. Just more confusing as fuck to learn.

  • @Willywonka1812
    @Willywonka1812 Год назад

    I feel like this was helpfull im dimond 3 or champ depending on the day and watching you look like me using free airroll just messing up touches that you would never with directional makes me relize i need to learn directional

  • @Inactive414
    @Inactive414 Год назад +1

    Damn, I been using free since 2015, and air roll right exclusively for half flips, how do I go about getting used to directional air roll in the air? Any tips (from anyone)

  • @CURS3DC0WB0Y
    @CURS3DC0WB0Y Год назад

    I feel like to really test this, you should try to find somebody that only uses free air roll and put them up against a directional air roll player in a series of challenges. Free Air Roll vs Directional Air Roll at Every Rank!

    • @CURS3DC0WB0Y
      @CURS3DC0WB0Y Год назад

      p.s. I'm champ and only use free air roll. (:

  • @carbxi4016
    @carbxi4016 Год назад +2

    Try binding directional air roll to your triggers, the more you push down the faster it spins and the slower you push gone the slower it spins.

    • @Stick1Master
      @Stick1Master Год назад

      Severely underrated comment. This is literally _the next big thing_ in rocket league. This is what Zen does and I'm shocked that it's getting so much recognition only now. Almost 8 years into the game and people are going to have to switch their controls _yet again_ lmao

    • @CactousMan639
      @CactousMan639 Год назад +2

      @@Stick1Master I think that's a very radical view. If that was the case, it would have happened already. I agree that analog input is better, but top players already control the spin to the touch by simply tapping it on and off.

  • @dawidszarek3553
    @dawidszarek3553 Год назад

    I’m between c1 and c2, and still use free air roll, I’m not the best but after a while you get fairly used to it

  • @Moeroe97
    @Moeroe97 Год назад

    As somebody who played since this game came out and never learned directional airroll I'd say it is possible to get decently good but I'm a hard stuck C3 for years now

  • @dylanpsimer4583
    @dylanpsimer4583 Год назад

    Something you're neglecting to do with your free air roll vs directional is you're not spinning the entire time. If you watch your rings, you stop spinning and adjust without air rolling every time you get uncomfortable. I think this is subconscious because the critical physical difference between the two is you need to make small inputs and no inputs for directional air roll. For free you constantly make inputs even for a straight z-axis. This inevitably is slowing down your free air roll speed. Think of it as adjustment then returning to neutral just like letting go of directional air roll. In summary, your skill of a 9 vs a 7 is not really a fair representation. You did mention this, I just wanted to add some specifics.
    I would also like to add for the first test any small change is going to affect your gameplay. I once just decided I was going to pick up more pennies and I immediately de-ranked. As you also mentioned mindset is a large factor in winning and focusing on anything else other than your standard play is going to negatively affect you overall.
    I enjoyed the attempt and just the fact that you have used both and like directional better is enough for me to be satisfied with the results. Thank you for the video!

  • @Kilua-RL-LVW
    @Kilua-RL-LVW Год назад

    new vid yay love your vids

  • @bennyxnz
    @bennyxnz Год назад +3

    hi ~ what are your thoughts on air roll left/right on L2? So your air roll is dynamic instead of just always full speed rotating?

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад

      i tried to tell him hopefully he gives us a updated video because this was the wrong concept of the debate

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад +1

      it could be useful I tried it but i’m diamond 2 so who knows if it helps mes

    • @cyrnoz1803
      @cyrnoz1803 Год назад

      Gives more control, can't hurt

    • @ethanfinch6899
      @ethanfinch6899 Год назад

      @@Keyowick bro chill. youre in everyones comments crying

    • @Keyowick
      @Keyowick Год назад +1

      @@ethanfinch6899 why you even say something to me lol

  • @hardcoresaltstorm9503
    @hardcoresaltstorm9503 Год назад

    Good test idea but the fact you haven't used free air roll in so long is obviously going to be a biased test. You'd need to spend a lot more time practicing free air roll alongside directional air roll to see a valid difference between the two

  • @KomponentkoPUBG
    @KomponentkoPUBG Год назад

    It doesnt look smooth but its useful when you are free roll :D

  • @yourjudgement7741
    @yourjudgement7741 Год назад

    IVAN’s the GOAT hahahahah

  • @soarl.
    @soarl. Год назад +5

    Zen puts his air roll on his trigger so he can control the speed of the spin and can get crazy control do you think it will be meta?

    • @tenacitytv_
      @tenacitytv_  Год назад +2

      It's a cool way of getting more meticulous touches but I don't really think it's going to be something that becomes "Meta" . Like I don't see current pro players switching to it

    • @emarbeats6896
      @emarbeats6896 Год назад

      It's not necessary no

    • @MikeyWhoaOfficial
      @MikeyWhoaOfficial Год назад

      You can also do:
      Air roll right - Right stick right
      Air roll left - Right stick left
      Jump - L1
      Boost - R1
      For the same, if not more control. It’s actually crazy intuitive. The only issue is having to put camera swivel on the thumb buttons. It’s cool to use for fun tho.
      Also, one thing to note about L2 is that using break affects how your car reacts when getting flip resets. If you hold R2 underneath the ball on a reset, there’s a split second where you slightly drive forward under the ball which can throw off positioning. If you hold L2, you pretty much break, or get “glued” to the ball. It actually helps but it’s just something to note because sometimes I find not using L2 better in certain positions when making contact on a reset.

  • @mechellekist3600
    @mechellekist3600 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much

  • @peacemaker4829
    @peacemaker4829 Год назад

    How do you not get good teammates at this stage of the game?

  • @ziionjsn
    @ziionjsn Год назад +1

    I just want to find a SSL who hasnt used Directional airroll. Its possible to do.

    • @rhys_uk_
      @rhys_uk_ Год назад

      Im pretty much ssl currently gc3 div 4 and i only use free roll and directional airoll for half flips, In my opinion use what you feel comfortable with there is no right or wrong

  • @JoepMiddel
    @JoepMiddel 10 месяцев назад

    Bro faces ^^ the whole time

  • @Averaage
    @Averaage Год назад

    I’ve been using free air roll forever and now I’m champ. Is it to late to switch to directional?

  • @jaysonlincoln
    @jaysonlincoln Год назад +1

    I use left and right air roll but I'm pretty bad at the moment

  • @KomponentkoPUBG
    @KomponentkoPUBG Год назад

    I think its about peoples choise.. Its like right and left foot at soccer, so if you are left kicker it doesnt mean you are better that player with right shoot :) Good video tho

  • @Dayman7
    @Dayman7 Год назад

    I think a better idea would have been to do a training pack twice and show how directional is actually better

  • @yungdiv4513
    @yungdiv4513 11 месяцев назад

    I’m a C2 only using free air roll and I feel like I’m restricting myself from being better at the game not being able to use directional. I’ve tried to use directional for weeks at a time but it makes me so much worse to the point where I’m dropping so many ranks and idk what to do. Ik it takes time but at this point do I just stick with regular air roll? I have so many hours with free I’d have to retrain my brain after 200 or so days on the game

    • @Jvtsing345
      @Jvtsing345 5 месяцев назад

      Hit GC a few weeks ago only using free air roll. Decided to finally try directional and it was so confusing😂 Dont think I can commit to the hours it would take to learn directional

  • @CloudedSheep
    @CloudedSheep Год назад

    I've use free air roll I tried to learn directional air roll just doesn't feel right. Probably because I've been on free for so long.

  • @nourabdelfattah3672
    @nourabdelfattah3672 Год назад

    is someone gonna talk abt how he played against his team mate in the second and third game right after they were team mates in the first game

  • @alisterdaniels3090
    @alisterdaniels3090 Год назад

    For everyone guessing how many times air roll was said. It was 91 times. Your welcome.
    Not all super heros wear capes!

  • @Barlowhjj
    @Barlowhjj 7 месяцев назад

    Can you show us your Key binds