Best of luck to all of you planning to pull on Xilonen! I have my guaranteed ready just for her. On top of being a strong support, she's pretty as well
Cant wait for my fav Natlan character to release, just hoping that I win 50/50 as I am considering to get her or Chioris weapon (I dont like Harbinger on Chiori)
@@zapperzapplin6238 you need two pyro, hydro, electro, or cryo units so you need to replace gorou AND yunjin to use XIlonen. So like Noelle - XIlo - Furina - Xingqiu/Yelan works, and it will be probably better than what you have
I’ve got over 500 wishes (round 545 atm) lined up for C2 R1 Xilonen. I am wondering however, do we know whether her buffs apply to other players in co-op? I always play co-op so it’s a genuine thing I consider when getting characters. Good luck to anyone looking to pull her.
Glad that Xilonen doesn't powercrept anyone it only adds more better team option for main dps, like for my ayato he can finally use finale of the deep clearling bond of life very fast it's his best f2p weapon ryt now plus pair with yunjin adds geo resonate for more elemantal dmg bonus, can't wait for her release
xilonen is probably going to be one of the most worthy pulls in natlan for players looking to increase their roster for imaginarium theater since she’s playable with so many teams. mauviuka as well i’m sure
The problem with double swirl cryo and pyro in wriothesley teams is that you either lose out on bennet uptime or kazuha uptime. Not a lot of people are aware kazuha’s A4 only lasts 8 seconds.
hello fellow Noelle mains who also pulls for xilonen . back then, noell furina + other hydro is kinda mid because they lack res shred and buffs for both ele, now xilonen will make that team cracked
I think the QoL bits that people tend to overlook do go both ways, though. People tend to overlook things like Kazuha swirling different shields together to break them. That his burst can be infused so he can help generate reactions doesn't get mentioned. They tend to overlook that having Bennett on a team, and he goes on a lot of teams, means Xil is reduced to resist debuffing and the DMG, both of which Kaz does, plus he groups and buffs EM. And people tend to overlook that the cases where Kaz has issues swirling two elements are also the cases where Xil will have issues crystalizing two elements... she'll get the resist debuffs no prob, but have issues with the DMG from the artifact set, especially due to her lack of off-field damage over time. Of course, there are QoL things that favor her as well, like the ones you've mentioned, and that she'll be less rotation dependent than Kaz is, because her geo "neutrality" means she won't mess up reactions that much (a factor in why Zhongli can go into so many teams). But yeah, nice to see someone who sees her as better in some cases, worse in others, and just all around solid, rather than hyping her up as a perfect, flawless character that makes Kaz completely outdated.
@@exploreevery ha ha from exploration i got almost everything def main stat but crit damage crit rate on some of them ( scroll set)and getting def is easy then anything else for me atlest 😂
I think the thing that really set Xilonen apart from buffers/debuffers is her ability to be pair with the best SP in the Game (Kazuha). In certain teams, Sucrose provides a somewhat similar buff compares to Kazuha but they don’t work well with each other, so they can only be on each half of the abyss. Xilonen, however is the Geo Kazuha’s level of buff, and can complement him on many other strong team (Neuvillete, Arlechino, Mualani).❤
@@militarfuturi1940 if you lose 50/50 once there's a 25 percent chance you will get it If you lose twice in a row it's 50 percent If you lose 3rd time it's 100 percent chance
I'm glad they changed it. But yeah, agree with sudiptaday7875, that they changed it for Navia. Not just because of her signature, but for those of us that have that and her C2. I sit at about 98% CR on her elemental skill, so Xil's C2 would be almost completely wasted for my Navia. And sure, if I went back and farmed Waterfall a ton more looking for pieces with no crit rate, well, even then, I'd likely wind up over 100% CR for her skill. Also handy for those that run their geo DPS with Furina, as they can use Hunter's. Sadly, though, it is hindered by all the DMG geo gets easy access to DMG. Like my Ning uses Verity, which adds 48% DMG to her elemental skill and 12% to everything else, plus she has her wall for 12%, and then there's the Waterfall set for more, plus geo resonance adds 20%... So all of that tends to mean geos get less benefit in terms of an overall damage increase percentage than other elements would get in the same situation.
Can't wait to get her (I had a blessing to get Ke Qing 2 pulls after Kinich). I love geo characters with all my heart and expect her personality to be as such outstanding as other geo characters.
Xilonen C2 is goldfish/dolphin bait and I'm so baited by it. 45% HP for Neuv and Furina seems sooooo gooooddd. There's hardly any character that buffs HP % in the game (e.g. Yelan C4)
Her being a second kazuha is nice in of itself, but i will say finally having a generalistic support for geo that isnt just hypercarry-focused like gorou is a breath of fresh air, cant wait to finally dust off my itto
She both buffer and healer in 1 body. If you bad - you need to run kazuha+healer, now it's just one slot and you can use like 20 different characters in last slot. I'm tired of same teams for years, it's fresh air and if they finally give us fire twink replacement - i will be happy.
i like that she's meant to be played with other elements because i feel like geo doesn't resonate well with others & why it's one of the least used elements
What would you say for xilonen on these teams? 1) Arlecchino, Yelan, Bennett, xilonen 2) Wrio, Shenhe, Yelan/xiangling, xilonen 3) Miko, bennet, Sara, xilonen I really want her, and want to use her, but I often use teams with a lot of reactions, or teams that require CC with Kazuha. So I want her badly, but I don’t often use teams that would require her. I think she could do amazing replacing Zhongli on Arlecchino’s team, but Arlecchino doesn’t heal in combat sadly
for me, main problem is that xilonen is coming before pyro archon which i have saved pulls. So, rn not knowing pyro archon kit and before that getting a good support which also can use the scroll set is making my decision very difficult lol
Thanks for the videos about all the updates. I’ve been following your updates about xilonen from buff to nerf. And i have a question, how big is the difference between C0 favo with C0R1? Maybe like 10-20%?
no problem! raw damage wise, that range sounds correct. however it doesn't take into account the fav energy particles. and for some teams, they may rely on that energy to get enough energy for the rotation
Nahida is really only a great pull if you're interested in playing the dendro teams. But if you're not interested in them (i.e. hyperbloom, bloom), then XIlo should be more helpful in team building
QUESTION TEACHER: I am looking to improve my navia team (on 50/50) and I like both Chiori and Xilonen could you give an answer as to who will overall provide the best support? Because chiori can generate more crystalize reaction butttttt xilonen provides longer buffs.
I think Chiori is a bit like Yae... only worth it if you vertically invest. For Navia, C0 is pretty meh, because no construct. Heck, I believe our newest geo four star outdoes C0 Chiori, thanks to the Natlan artifact set. C1 is still not that great. C2 you get a few more big hits in, and that's the point at which I think she's finally solid. And by C4, she's pretty darn brutal. So yeah, I'd recommend Xil over Chiori as well, except maybe if you really want to run a Zhongli + Chiori duo in various teams.
Xilonen er req seems pretty low. Do you think 118 er is enough for hybrid xilonen in a xilonen, yelan, furina and kazuha team? Considerations: - Xilonen will be on field - Xilonen is using the support natlan sets that gives energy - Kazuha is holding r1 xiphos at 1k em (+10 er to the whole team) - Yelan does 2 skills per rotation (C1+)
in a team meeting then element requirements, I don't see the value in making her a hybrid "sub-dps". she will only skill -> 2 normal attacks -> and burst, so she won't be hitting a lot on the first place. IMO just a lot simpler to just put on her full support, and you don't have to worry about min maxing ER
@@nikyu.106 onfield xilonen team building needs the opposite of normal. you CAN'T have 2 or more pyro, hydro, cryo, or electro characters on the team because otherwise, she ends her enhanced state after 2 normal attacks. so you have to go a more mono-geo route. and in those teams, you can afford low ER on xilonen because more geo particles are produced
Does having 2 hydro characters on the same team with an anemo (which doesn’t effect on xilonen's samplers) reduce the buff rather than having 3 different types of elements? Can you explain Nuv, furina, kazuha and xilonen team? How does she give full samplers stacks?
Neuv - Furina - Kazuha - Xilonen has two hydro characters, which meets Xilonen's requirements of having at least 2 Pyro, Hydro, Electro, or Cryo teammates. XIlonen has 3 samplers. WIth two hydro, two samplers become hydro and the third remains geo. Thus, when Xilonen Skill -> two normal attacks to activate her buff, she will give the team hydro and geo res shred to nearby enemies. The sampler res shred doesn't stack tho, so you don't get double the hydro res shred.
mualani is another main dps so she can't be used, chevreuse can only be played with just pyro and electro characters. Xilonen - Yelan - Furina - Xilonen will likely be a very strong team option. If you don't have Furina, you can run Xingqiu
In my opinion, the craftable is way better than favonius, unless you can't hit ER requirement, then favonius is the way to go, but you're losing on def.
The def doesn't really that much, though, most likely. You will likely get enough healing out of her even with a Fav, and her damage not stellar. So Fav, for the energy it provides the team as a whole, is the better support options. Especially if, due to being a geo, you wind up pushing a solid particle generator for your carry out of the team.
Xinlonen doesn't pass Kazuha She's a side grade, she does healing whilst Kazuha doesn't grouping two sides of the same coin actually they work really well together, this is the xingqou and yelan debate all over
can technically be skipped, but getting another Kazuha alternative that heals is a nice option for expanded team building. value really depends on who else you have on your account
Alrighty, time to ask the same question I always ask when a new Geo character comes out: Do they work well with ITTO?? "Xilonen Needs 2/4 party members to NOT be Geo..." .....Dammit.
Why is no one talking about Song of days past on Xilonen if you have another scroll user in the team? She can max out Song of days past and give a lot of team damage that way.
as much as I like her design but I already have so many supports :/ Kazuha, nahida, xianyun and I'm only missing Furina.. she's prolly coming in 5.2 + she doesn't buff kinich :/ .. well I might pull in her rerun :D
I think they don’t talk about it because some limited time weapons are not available in the test servers, just like no one talks about Festering Desire because new Genshin players would probably resent the game and stop playing due to it being before their time. I’m very interested in Cinnabar Spindle’s performance as well. I never got Albedo and would like to see it used by someone who can benefit from it.
@@tavinhoo The passive is better but I don't want to spend my billets to convert them to get 5 swords, when I already have the Cinnabar Spindle at level 90.
Should I pull for Xilonen or save up for mauvika? I can clear abyss 12 stars & 10 star theatre but I’m not sure if mauvikas gonna be a on field dps or off field pyro applicator since that would go well with my Kinich
if you want to improve your Kinich, Mavuika may help him and Xilonen definitely won't. both will likely be good pulls tho, just aim for whichever fits your goals more
Eh, the only ones that matter are the new Natlan ones. And you probably didn't toss too many of those, and even if you did, most weren't worth using anyway, because artifact RNG.
4:40 wait Im lost, so you can do 2 Nightsoul burst with Xilonen even if Nightsoul burst has 18s cd? And thats why with natlan set you get 12 flat energy with her every rot?
So is it a must to have at least 2 characters of the same element in here team? Like, will she only work if The team consists of Neuvillette, Furina, Xilonen and Dehya? Or will she still work if the team consists of Neuvillette, Fishcl, Xilonen and Dehya?
both of the teams you mentioned will activate XIlonen's res shred from skill. you just need at least two characters on the team that are pyro, hydro, electro, or cryo. they could be the same or different, just need at least 2
Will she still be good at C0? The only C1 5* i have and actually went for is Neuvillette, who i got twice in 40 wishes. Largely a F2P who gets those i enjoy, though.
yes, she will be totally sufficient at C0, especially if u dont have Kazuha. He C2 isnt very strong, especially if u already have an HP scaling weapon on Nuvi. Her C1 is absolutely useless since u already have Nuvi C1 (and her C1 is actually much weaker than Nuvis interuption resistance) TLDR: C0 is a very fine character
@@tavinhoo in double hydro navia teams you usually use sigewinne/kokomi though not sure if xilonens healing will be enough to replace hydro healer with yelan/xq
Xilonen sounds nice and I’ve noticed a lot of genshin content creators pitching that she’s Kazuha 2.0 Buttttt… I’m only giving primos to Mavuika. Nice try Mihoyo.
What about for arle, xingqui, bennet teams- will she be a better replacement for kazuha?(since she can shred both hydro and pyro and buff with arti set and no need for double swirl set up)
I think Kazuha's "weaknesses" don't appear much in Arle teams. For instance, she can swap out easily so you can refresh Kazuha's buff. XIlonen also can't heal Arlecchino, and grouping makes it easier for her to hit enemies in AoE. Both should be good, but I think Kazuha takes the edge slightly because of the grouping + Arle can't be healed.
@anddad true however arle already has AOE(not as much but decent) and also considering the mostly low enemy density abyss doesn't it seem better even damage wise to use her instead?also she may have better more reliable uptime on the buffs and shred due to ease of use( thank you for replying btw)
@@kale6144 i think it really depends on the content. Xilo may provide better comfort with her higher buff uptime, and if that's the case for you, she'll be better for you. the difference just won't be too drastic in a sheet. the main value will come from if the player prefers one or the other in a rotation IMO
idk if anyone has done specific calcs for this team. so this is my instinctual guess: they will be similar dmg wise, but XIlonen may be better because Kazuha's grouping doesn't do much for Yoimiya's attacks herself. since yoimiya's skill duration lasts 10 seconds, XIlonen's longer buff duration can last Yoimiya's entire duration easier vs Kazuha. However, Kazuha's AoE damage from his own abilities may be very helpful for the team since Yoimiya doesn't have much AoE. ultimately, both have strengths and weaknesses, and if there is a difference, I don't think it will be that big
I imagine it's more of a main DPS weapon for her, as her defence increases her damage and Healing, so it might be good for some things.. more like... Sub DPS, I guess ?
I will resist all temptations and wait for pyro Archon. I used my primos last time and I missed furina and rage quit the game for 3 months, won't happen again.
i really wanted to use her in a mono geo team. but i dont have enough pulls to pull c2 maybe on a rerun but it kinda sucks. Also with c2 she can res shred but still not heal is also a bit sad.
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Best of luck to all of you planning to pull on Xilonen!
I have my guaranteed ready just for her. On top of being a strong support, she's pretty as well
Cant wait for my fav Natlan character to release, just hoping that I win 50/50 as I am considering to get her or Chioris weapon (I dont like Harbinger on Chiori)
@@Stalnaya_Zmeya good luck!
hello sir,
a question, in my noelle,gorou,furina,YJ team do you think if i swap out my YJ to xilonen going to increased my noelle better damage ?
@@zapperzapplin6238 you need two pyro, hydro, electro, or cryo units so you need to replace gorou AND yunjin to use XIlonen. So like Noelle - XIlo - Furina - Xingqiu/Yelan works, and it will be probably better than what you have
I’ve got over 500 wishes (round 545 atm) lined up for C2 R1 Xilonen. I am wondering however, do we know whether her buffs apply to other players in co-op? I always play co-op so it’s a genuine thing I consider when getting characters. Good luck to anyone looking to pull her.
Glad that Xilonen doesn't powercrept anyone it only adds more better team option for main dps, like for my ayato he can finally use finale of the deep clearling bond of life very fast it's his best f2p weapon ryt now plus pair with yunjin adds geo resonate for more elemantal dmg bonus, can't wait for her release
I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about the Ayato synergy! She’s gonna be a perfect support for him!
Keqing can burst every 6s with C2 Xilonen! 🔥
Thas kinda cracked
That's what I was excited to see but then I saw a content creator say her C2 doesn't help keqing much and I was super confused.
Even if she does her burst constantly. Her dmg is mid
@@exploreevery yeah but it's fun to watch :)
@@exploreevery It's not about the damage, it's about the message.
xilonen is probably going to be one of the most worthy pulls in natlan for players looking to increase their roster for imaginarium theater since she’s playable with so many teams. mauviuka as well i’m sure
Yeah, supports, especially ones that combine sustain with offensive support, are big.
Im really excited to use her for my Wriothesley melt team since I basically ran Zhongli all the time (trying to swirl Cryo sucks)
The pain is real, so I run burning with Wriothesley
@@daeswin.b.4513 same! burning with wrio is really good
The problem with double swirl cryo and pyro in wriothesley teams is that you either lose out on bennet uptime or kazuha uptime. Not a lot of people are aware kazuha’s A4 only lasts 8 seconds.
SAME! Go wrio mains!
@@thirsty1629 thing is his burst makes his 8s uptime negligible.
I really hope 150 wishes will be enough to get her because now I really need her to make my furina noelle team godlike.
waitttt noelle + xilonen sounds cracked i gotta try that
@@RaymondTheCat that's the only reason I'm pulling xilonen.
I want Noelle to deal 200k damage per swing one day 😅
hello fellow Noelle mains who also pulls for xilonen
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back then, noell furina + other hydro is kinda mid because they lack res shred and buffs for both ele, now xilonen will make that team cracked
Noelle Xilonen Yelan Furina
@@lucifermorningstar8387 Could not afford Yelan but Candace will do just fine.
Thats a really high quality and informative video! came looking for talent priority as no one else talked about it
I think the QoL bits that people tend to overlook do go both ways, though. People tend to overlook things like Kazuha swirling different shields together to break them. That his burst can be infused so he can help generate reactions doesn't get mentioned. They tend to overlook that having Bennett on a team, and he goes on a lot of teams, means Xil is reduced to resist debuffing and the DMG, both of which Kaz does, plus he groups and buffs EM. And people tend to overlook that the cases where Kaz has issues swirling two elements are also the cases where Xil will have issues crystalizing two elements... she'll get the resist debuffs no prob, but have issues with the DMG from the artifact set, especially due to her lack of off-field damage over time. Of course, there are QoL things that favor her as well, like the ones you've mentioned, and that she'll be less rotation dependent than Kaz is, because her geo "neutrality" means she won't mess up reactions that much (a factor in why Zhongli can go into so many teams).
But yeah, nice to see someone who sees her as better in some cases, worse in others, and just all around solid, rather than hyping her up as a perfect, flawless character that makes Kaz completely outdated.
So far I'm liking Natlan's power levels. None of the 3 characters so far are "must pulls", but they are still strong.
finally my def artifacts can be used 😂😂
Only one off piece
Only one off set artifact so unfortunately no
@@sudiptaday7875 Are you sure
@@exploreevery ha ha from exploration i got almost everything def main stat but crit damage crit rate on some of them ( scroll set)and getting def is easy then anything else for me atlest 😂
@@Gen-zEsportss yeah cuz you will give her the new set No? Most our defense artifacts are on different set
I think the thing that really set Xilonen apart from buffers/debuffers is her ability to be pair with the best SP in the Game (Kazuha).
In certain teams, Sucrose provides a somewhat similar buff compares to Kazuha but they don’t work well with each other, so they can only be on each half of the abyss.
Xilonen, however is the Geo Kazuha’s level of buff, and can complement him on many other strong team (Neuvillete, Arlechino, Mualani).❤
I really appreciate your content and the way you explain things. Hope you get more subs! More power to your channel bro❤
thank you!
I am at zero pity, but here's hoping that Capturing Radiance thing kicks in since Chasca and Mavuika are right around the corner.
Capturing Radiance has really low chance of triggering at the first 50/50 loss. Higher chances at the second and guaranteed at the 3rd 50/50 loss
@@lucifermorningstar8387 Everyday I hear new things about this mechanism 😃
good luck 🙏
@lucifermorningstar8387 so you have to lose 3 50/50 and in the next 5 star the capturing radiance will kick in?
@@militarfuturi1940 if you lose 50/50 once there's a 25 percent chance you will get it
If you lose twice in a row it's 50 percent
If you lose 3rd time it's 100 percent chance
It sucks they changed the C2 geo 30% crit rate buff. That would have been way nicer.
They did it for navia with her signature you would go over 100 crit
I'm glad they changed it. But yeah, agree with sudiptaday7875, that they changed it for Navia. Not just because of her signature, but for those of us that have that and her C2. I sit at about 98% CR on her elemental skill, so Xil's C2 would be almost completely wasted for my Navia. And sure, if I went back and farmed Waterfall a ton more looking for pieces with no crit rate, well, even then, I'd likely wind up over 100% CR for her skill.
Also handy for those that run their geo DPS with Furina, as they can use Hunter's.
Sadly, though, it is hindered by all the DMG geo gets easy access to DMG. Like my Ning uses Verity, which adds 48% DMG to her elemental skill and 12% to everything else, plus she has her wall for 12%, and then there's the Waterfall set for more, plus geo resonance adds 20%... So all of that tends to mean geos get less benefit in terms of an overall damage increase percentage than other elements would get in the same situation.
Can't wait to get her (I had a blessing to get Ke Qing 2 pulls after Kinich). I love geo characters with all my heart and expect her personality to be as such outstanding as other geo characters.
Xilonen C2 is goldfish/dolphin bait and I'm so baited by it. 45% HP for Neuv and Furina seems sooooo gooooddd. There's hardly any character that buffs HP % in the game (e.g. Yelan C4)
Same. I happen to have Yelan's C4, so the stacks are too ridiculous to pass on lol
Yk might as well wait for pyro archon might be Bennett for HP attack and Def
It's not that good if your neuvillete has hp weapon, but considering you're goldfish you probably have his sig, so it's pretty good
Oh yes, please give the billions dollar company your hard earned money for literally zero content that actually needs that much power 😂
^ screams in poor
I'm at 70 pity and 50/50 will try my luck if lost Pyro archon is guaranteed
I'll be definitely pulling for c2r1 xilonen for my neuvi💅🏻
I use the Flute of Ezpitzal and an energy recharge sands on her. Mostly because i love how it looks with her
1 week and few more days 😭 time is so slow. Cant wait to get xilonen dont know if i should c2 or c0 her💛 480 wishes saved
I ll pull for her. Cant wait to use her with Navia! Maybe even a Chiori C1
So glad I have guaranteed xilonen. I really need a great support for my abyss teams
Goodluck to everyone!! Every xilonen wanters will be Xilonen haver ❤❤
Xilonen is a Interesting Character in the Brand Newest Event of *Genshin Impact Natlan: The Rainbow Destined to Burn.* Can't wait to try her out soon!
Her being a second kazuha is nice in of itself, but i will say finally having a generalistic support for geo that isnt just hypercarry-focused like gorou is a breath of fresh air, cant wait to finally dust off my itto
Navia's gonna slap harder than ever lol
2nd and good luck to those pulling for xilonen
I’m going to be experimenting with her on my arlecchino and wriolesthy teams
she will added into my Neuvillette, Furina & Kazuha team
I have a guaranteed with her name on it 🥰
"THIS ONE'S GOT YOUR NAME ON IT"
- Navia
Finally a support for my navia!!
She both buffer and healer in 1 body.
If you bad - you need to run kazuha+healer, now it's just one slot and you can use like 20 different characters in last slot. I'm tired of same teams for years, it's fresh air and if they finally give us fire twink replacement - i will be happy.
i like that she's meant to be played with other elements because i feel like geo doesn't resonate well with others & why it's one of the least used elements
Noelle, Xilonen, Furina, Candace will be a good team!! nice
I do think a factor to consider is How much better her vertical investment is. c2 kazuha vs c2 xilonen is so in favor of xilonen. same with c3
My navia just waiting for her. Im pity 70 but 50/50. Leeets go
The healing is insane and heals the party in coop, also she is hard as hell, doesn't need a shield. 10k heals per tick and the ticks are fast.
I love Kinich super sad she will not buff him but this is life I will still put her in the team
This is all going to come together once Mavuika is released.
hope your cold gets better
i wasn't sick but maybe it sounded like it because I recorded this after waking up, but thanks anyways :p
1:38 they took the movement speed out of her kit, now she just restores more phlogiston to the team
Xilone-mualani-kazuha-dehya/xiangling gonna be a wild team
What would you say for xilonen on these teams?
1) Arlecchino, Yelan, Bennett, xilonen
2) Wrio, Shenhe, Yelan/xiangling, xilonen
3) Miko, bennet, Sara, xilonen
I really want her, and want to use her, but I often use teams with a lot of reactions, or teams that require CC with Kazuha. So I want her badly, but I don’t often use teams that would require her. I think she could do amazing replacing Zhongli on Arlecchino’s team, but Arlecchino doesn’t heal in combat sadly
for me, main problem is that xilonen is coming before pyro archon which i have saved pulls. So, rn not knowing pyro archon kit and before that getting a good support which also can use the scroll set is making my decision very difficult lol
xilonen hypercarry!! hopefully i get early bc im guaranteed with about 30 pity 🙂
As an Itto man, we will never get any actual support.
She can still support you just trade gorou for her. It's figuring out which other characters can work with Itto that's tricky.
Just slap furina and bennett on his team, pretty simple
Gorou, Bennett, and furina just don’t exist then i guess.
@@Spookie24 ye nah, gorou ain't the move unless u got xilonen at c2 ofc, the trade's worth it
@@demonicry3934 i meant for itto in general. Even without xilonen’s existence he’s not lacking in supports.
Yes she does appear to be a good meta support, but can we also talk about the “moral” support?
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I’m building mualani for her now
If She works with arle the best DPS in the game, then I’m going for her
Thanks for the videos about all the updates. I’ve been following your updates about xilonen from buff to nerf. And i have a question, how big is the difference between C0 favo with C0R1? Maybe like 10-20%?
no problem! raw damage wise, that range sounds correct. however it doesn't take into account the fav energy particles. and for some teams, they may rely on that energy to get enough energy for the rotation
Neuvillete team after xilonen 💀
Now I can't decide if i should pull xilonen or nahida
Nahida is really only a great pull if you're interested in playing the dendro teams. But if you're not interested in them (i.e. hyperbloom, bloom), then XIlo should be more helpful in team building
tnx, i thought that she would powercreep kazu but i was wrong. so i dont need to pull for her as of now.
QUESTION TEACHER:
I am looking to improve my navia team (on 50/50) and I like both Chiori and Xilonen could you give an answer as to who will overall provide the best support?
Because chiori can generate more crystalize reaction butttttt xilonen provides longer buffs.
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Xilonen should be better assuming Chiori C0. Also, Xilonen will be better for other characters
I think Chiori is a bit like Yae... only worth it if you vertically invest. For Navia, C0 is pretty meh, because no construct. Heck, I believe our newest geo four star outdoes C0 Chiori, thanks to the Natlan artifact set. C1 is still not that great. C2 you get a few more big hits in, and that's the point at which I think she's finally solid. And by C4, she's pretty darn brutal.
So yeah, I'd recommend Xil over Chiori as well, except maybe if you really want to run a Zhongli + Chiori duo in various teams.
Don’t worry Navia, Mama’s almost home
Xilonen er req seems pretty low.
Do you think 118 er is enough for hybrid xilonen in a xilonen, yelan, furina and kazuha team?
Considerations:
- Xilonen will be on field
- Xilonen is using the support natlan sets that gives energy
- Kazuha is holding r1 xiphos at 1k em (+10 er to the whole team)
- Yelan does 2 skills per rotation (C1+)
in a team meeting then element requirements, I don't see the value in making her a hybrid "sub-dps". she will only skill -> 2 normal attacks -> and burst, so she won't be hitting a lot on the first place. IMO just a lot simpler to just put on her full support, and you don't have to worry about min maxing ER
@@anddad She'll be using normal attacks on field and doing damage that's the reason why I said hybrid
@@nikyu.106 onfield xilonen team building needs the opposite of normal. you CAN'T have 2 or more pyro, hydro, cryo, or electro characters on the team because otherwise, she ends her enhanced state after 2 normal attacks. so you have to go a more mono-geo route. and in those teams, you can afford low ER on xilonen because more geo particles are produced
@@anddad yeah someone answered that, ig it's either main dps or support there's no in between
Thank you
Might make her into dps that is if I win hard pity 😅
dude i could come up with like 7 teams she super charges on the spot, she is top 5 charecters in the game
I was planing to get nahida for my maulani but ig il get xilonen and someone else
Does having 2 hydro characters on the same team with an anemo (which doesn’t effect on xilonen's samplers) reduce the buff rather than having 3 different types of elements?
Can you explain Nuv, furina, kazuha and xilonen team? How does she give full samplers stacks?
Neuv - Furina - Kazuha - Xilonen has two hydro characters, which meets Xilonen's requirements of having at least 2 Pyro, Hydro, Electro, or Cryo teammates. XIlonen has 3 samplers. WIth two hydro, two samplers become hydro and the third remains geo. Thus, when Xilonen Skill -> two normal attacks to activate her buff, she will give the team hydro and geo res shred to nearby enemies. The sampler res shred doesn't stack tho, so you don't get double the hydro res shred.
@@anddad Got it. Thanks.
Who would you guys recommend to pair with Xilonen and Noelle?
Could mulani or yelan work?
Or chevruse and xiangling?
mualani is another main dps so she can't be used, chevreuse can only be played with just pyro and electro characters. Xilonen - Yelan - Furina - Xilonen will likely be a very strong team option. If you don't have Furina, you can run Xingqiu
In my opinion, the craftable is way better than favonius, unless you can't hit ER requirement, then favonius is the way to go, but you're losing on def.
The def doesn't really that much, though, most likely. You will likely get enough healing out of her even with a Fav, and her damage not stellar. So Fav, for the energy it provides the team as a whole, is the better support options. Especially if, due to being a geo, you wind up pushing a solid particle generator for your carry out of the team.
Now you can have a geo kazuha on the team without a kazuha.
Xinlonen doesn't pass Kazuha She's a side grade, she does healing whilst Kazuha doesn't grouping two sides of the same coin actually they work really well together, this is the xingqou and yelan debate all over
Much like Xingqui and yelan though it's good to have both. I can't count how many times I wanted another kazuha for second side
Thoughts on how worthwhile xilonen is if you already have kazuha and don't run geo teams?
can technically be skipped, but getting another Kazuha alternative that heals is a nice option for expanded team building. value really depends on who else you have on your account
Every 5 stars-character has its mini similar 4 stars-character.
You didn’t mention the 4-star event defense sword; is it bad on her?
craftable is better as a def stat stick
Alrighty, time to ask the same question I always ask when a new Geo character comes out:
Do they work well with ITTO??
"Xilonen Needs 2/4 party members to NOT be Geo..."
.....Dammit.
6:26 wait. Hutao skill has Interruption resistence?
Why is no one talking about Song of days past on Xilonen if you have another scroll user in the team?
She can max out Song of days past and give a lot of team damage that way.
as much as I like her design but I already have so many supports :/ Kazuha, nahida, xianyun and I'm only missing Furina.. she's prolly coming in 5.2 + she doesn't buff kinich :/ .. well I might pull in her rerun :D
Furina isn't coming in 5.2, it's Xilonen/ Chiori then Hu Tao/Nahida
What about Cinnabar Spindle for her weapon? This weapon has been sitting in my inventory since it's release which was 2.3.
I think they don’t talk about it because some limited time weapons are not available in the test servers, just like no one talks about Festering Desire because new Genshin players would probably resent the game and stop playing due to it being before their time.
I’m very interested in Cinnabar Spindle’s performance as well. I never got Albedo and would like to see it used by someone who can benefit from it.
@@Reecharge Yeah I'm on the same boat. Never got Albedo and I always level up all event weapons so it's just been sitting there for 2 years.
craftable sword is better
@@tavinhoo The passive is better but I don't want to spend my billets to convert them to get 5 swords, when I already have the Cinnabar Spindle at level 90.
@@pnut84 favonius is better than both, just use it and a def sands
I don't see the need to pull for her cause I have zhongli and c2 kachina..
Can i build xilonen to support my yoimiya or is zhongli+yunjin still better? Also will i need her sig weapon?
don't need her signature. i don't know the comparison between yunjin and xilo for yoimiya but Xilo should be fine
Should I pull for Xilonen or save up for mauvika? I can clear abyss 12 stars & 10 star theatre but I’m not sure if mauvikas gonna be a on field dps or off field pyro applicator since that would go well with my Kinich
36 stars* lol
You certainly don't need characters for meta so just pull her if you like her trail
if you want to improve your Kinich, Mavuika may help him and Xilonen definitely won't. both will likely be good pulls tho, just aim for whichever fits your goals more
IM geginning to regret throwing my def artifacts into the strongbox
Eh, the only ones that matter are the new Natlan ones. And you probably didn't toss too many of those, and even if you did, most weren't worth using anyway, because artifact RNG.
4:40 wait Im lost, so you can do 2 Nightsoul burst with Xilonen even if Nightsoul burst has 18s cd? And thats why with natlan set you get 12 flat energy with her every rot?
yep thats how it should work
Is Xilonen,Kazuha,Xiangling,Mualani going to do more dmg than swapping Kazuha with Yelan? (I don't have Furina sooo....)
might work but the main issue is getting a hydro crystalize into a hydro swirl with just mualani
I thought she was a support who buffs navia's damage
Is she any good for melt Wriothesley?? Or are other characters like Nahida, Thoma/Xiangling more valuable for burning application.
She is fine but not necessarily an upgrade to existing alternatives
@@anddad ah then I'll wait for Shenhe instead. Thank you!!
@@ChiIIi... im hoping that Mavuika will be the upgrade melt Wrio needs, I don't think Shenhe is that character for him unfortunately, but we shall see
So is it a must to have at least 2 characters of the same element in here team?
Like, will she only work if The team consists of Neuvillette, Furina, Xilonen and Dehya?
Or will she still work if the team consists of Neuvillette, Fishcl, Xilonen and Dehya?
both of the teams you mentioned will activate XIlonen's res shred from skill. you just need at least two characters on the team that are pyro, hydro, electro, or cryo. they could be the same or different, just need at least 2
@@anddad Understood. Thank you.
Will she still be good at C0?
The only C1 5* i have and actually went for is Neuvillette, who i got twice in 40 wishes. Largely a F2P who gets those i enjoy, though.
yes, she will be totally sufficient at C0, especially if u dont have Kazuha. He C2 isnt very strong, especially if u already have an HP scaling weapon on Nuvi. Her C1 is absolutely useless since u already have Nuvi C1 (and her C1 is actually much weaker than Nuvis interuption resistance)
TLDR: C0 is a very fine character
pretty much a complete package at c0, very solid character
Wait so is that Arlecchino team for DPS or Support Xilonen?
support xilonen for arle dps
I’m confused can she be good in navia furina Bennett team ...??
Yes you can swap out Xiangling for Furina, Benny boy is a must. Xilonen and Bennett are enough to stack Furina's Fan fare.
yes it will be navia best team alongside furina, yelan and xilonen
@@tavinhoobennett, not yelan
@@thelakes_s I mentioned 2 teams, the one that guy said and navia, furina, xilonen and yelan
@@tavinhoo in double hydro navia teams you usually use sigewinne/kokomi though
not sure if xilonens healing will be enough to replace hydro healer with yelan/xq
I will be pulling maybe but she doesn't really fot my preferred teams as geo does nothing with dendro
Blood forgot sinabar spindle
Navia furina bennet xilonen. Will she reduce geo resistance for Navia?
yes
Xilonen sounds nice and I’ve noticed a lot of genshin content creators pitching that she’s Kazuha 2.0
Buttttt… I’m only giving primos to Mavuika. Nice try Mihoyo.
😎i'll be getting both
is it possible to use xilonen with a cryo team like ganyu shenhe and sth else don’t rly have anything else
My reasoning for getting her: I like Gyaru gurls 💅
Mualani buff lets gooooo
What about for arle, xingqui, bennet teams- will she be a better replacement for kazuha?(since she can shred both hydro and pyro and buff with arti set and no need for double swirl set up)
I think Kazuha's "weaknesses" don't appear much in Arle teams. For instance, she can swap out easily so you can refresh Kazuha's buff. XIlonen also can't heal Arlecchino, and grouping makes it easier for her to hit enemies in AoE. Both should be good, but I think Kazuha takes the edge slightly because of the grouping + Arle can't be healed.
@anddad true however arle already has AOE(not as much but decent) and also considering the mostly low enemy density abyss doesn't it seem better even damage wise to use her instead?also she may have better more reliable uptime on the buffs and shred due to ease of use( thank you for replying btw)
@@kale6144 i think it really depends on the content. Xilo may provide better comfort with her higher buff uptime, and if that's the case for you, she'll be better for you. the difference just won't be too drastic in a sheet. the main value will come from if the player prefers one or the other in a rotation IMO
does xilonen work better with yoimiya in a yoimiya + yelan + bennet + _ team? or will kazuha be better
idk if anyone has done specific calcs for this team. so this is my instinctual guess: they will be similar dmg wise, but XIlonen may be better because Kazuha's grouping doesn't do much for Yoimiya's attacks herself. since yoimiya's skill duration lasts 10 seconds, XIlonen's longer buff duration can last Yoimiya's entire duration easier vs Kazuha. However, Kazuha's AoE damage from his own abilities may be very helpful for the team since Yoimiya doesn't have much AoE. ultimately, both have strengths and weaknesses, and if there is a difference, I don't think it will be that big
Can xilonen use cinnabar sword?
Can use it, but its not optimal! The craftable weapon from Natlan is a better option supportive vise
Yes
I imagine it's more of a main DPS weapon for her, as her defence increases her damage and Healing, so it might be good for some things.. more like... Sub DPS, I guess ?
i wouldn't recommend it, she's not skill dmg focused
Is the def sword good if I have around 180 energy recharge?
if you need the healing sure, but IMO the fav particles are better
ARLECCHINO ALSO GOT A BUFF
I will resist all temptations and wait for pyro Archon. I used my primos last time and I missed furina and rage quit the game for 3 months, won't happen again.
i really wanted to use her in a mono geo team. but i dont have enough pulls to pull c2 maybe on a rerun but it kinda sucks. Also with c2 she can res shred but still not heal is also a bit sad.
So let’s say if I have a team with Xilonen and Chiori/Albedo, and those 2 have xilonens weapon, would the weapon passive stack?
hmm, not sure, my guess is no tho
@@anddad aw man 😔