In all seriousness this could be an incredible low rider project car. But no, you guys have clearly watched every episode of Top Gear thousands of times over and think that copying that on RUclips and selling Car Vertical for Alex Kirsten is 'good content'. You guys are just sticking with the same formula of - buy cheap car online, make video about it, rinse and repeat. Don't think that'll tire out some what..?
I’m the bloke in the Leon who over took you on the slip road because you came to a dead stop for no reason 😂 now I know why! Recognised the car instantly!
Did you live in an area with bad weather that would rust the car? I'm thinking about importing a 1966 DeVille Convertible to the UK but one wouldn't fit in my garage so I don't know how I'd stop it from rusting
@@elementalb3m957 These old americanos rust like hell, a convertible would also give you the additional trouble with the roof. I'd strongly advise you not to get such a car if it can't be kept dry. I've got a 57 Thunderbird that wasn't garage kept and you wouldn't believe the rot that was even on already replaced panels
@@peteralexander6514 You realize how bad this cars are when you remember they were bonded together with newspapers in the 2000s when they filmed top gear 😂😂
This is why hot rodding was so big in the States in the 70s, because by the time you take this 8 liter engine and upgrade away all the weirdness that's corking the engine up, there you are laying down 13 second quarter mile times in your stupendous Cadillac.
You didn’t show us the best part: the horn! My first car was a 70’s land yacht. 4 door. Maybe 100hp. 24 seconds 0-60 sounds about right. It was super comfortable - like riding down the road on your sofa. But being so wide, it made navigating tight roads tricky. On top of that was the super boosted power steering and you could turn the wheel 90 degrees without changing directions. So forget small steering adjustments. You put the car in to a turn, spotted the exit point, and roughly aimed for that. Taught me to look WAY down the road while driving, not just right in front of my car, because stopping or swerving took some planning. It really made me a better driver - especially in snowy winters with all season tires.
I daily a 1978 Cadillac DeVille in Denmark. I put an LS in it and drive around 15k miles a year. This is not an awful car, just not in the best shape. You won't find anything more comfortable.The mechanical advance is most likely just stuck. Get it freed up and youll make a lot more power. The key coming out is also very normal on older GM cars
@@iamaparanoidandroid1 Highly unlikely, as now it's just pouring in the fuel without getting anything done, if anything else it'll probably double the mpg as fuel is not being dumped to waste. Just the slightest bit of basic maintenance, carb tune up and flushing the cooling system would do this car wonders.
Hi from Sydney, Australia. In a weeks' time I will have owned a 1974 Fleetwood Brougham Talisman version for 42years, I bought it as an 8yr old car with 102,000kl,s on it or 60,000miles. It was sent as a CKD kit (completely knocked down) to be built here in Sydney as a RHD car to be compliant with Aussie rules & regulations. Best of all it is a full power car with none of the power sapping US anti-pollution devices so the almost 8.3 litre car has 450 horsepower in basic tune, with some slight tweaks this soon goes over 500 hp. After 42 years of driving, it the odometer now has 706,000klms or 445,000 miles it has been flawless. In dry mostly fine weather there's zero rust. Re the massive 13" diff this was created to work with a 13. litre V12 modular version of this engine which was to have 750 hp in basic tune, If you compared your car to a mid '70's Jaguar , you have the base level 4.2ltr Jaguar XJC coupe, the Jaguar sedans came in 2 lengths of wheelbase, with the absolute premium version, depending on country sold in being the Jaguar or Daimler Van Den Plas long wheelbase, this is what my '74 Cadillac Talisman is. AND in 1974 this elaborate car came with GM's Air Cushion Restraint System (airbags) it also has the MAXTRAC handling system, which is self levelling suspension, ABS brakes, traction control tied to speed sensitive steering. NOT a joke of a car, but rather an ultra-competent world beater. Few were made in the USA, only a handful of CKD kits were ordered by Aussie customers built at GM Holden Aust's Pagewood plant in Sydney. With a central passenger section looking way different than your car , and fitted with padded leather consoles front and rear making it a huge 4-seater car, seats made by Sealy Posturepedic bedding company, In '74 one of the world's most expensive cars, and finally let me say extreme quality as well as the car is still using its original engine, plus all of its equipment still works flawlessly, in its Sable black paint , and Italian Tan interior it looks very classy. After 10 years of ownership I bought a second one , my "spare" is a White '72 RHD Brougham.
It would be awesome to do all of this as a RUclips video. It's amazing just what you wrote, and seeing more of it would be absolutely perfect. Please consider this idea, it would be amazing. I wish you many more miles 👍👍
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck You can 2 years ago s mate has made 4 videos of my 2 Cadillacs they are on his you tube channel, type in Mark Behr. next type in Cadillac you will find there are 4 videos they are some of his early videos if you just scroll down. 2 on the black 1974 model plus 2 more on my white almost identical 1972 model. There is a walk and talk around video for each car and a drive video for each car. I bought the white one 10 years after the black one. Hope you enjoy watching them. These premium Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham models were competent well-made well-built long distance road cars filled with then state of the art equipment not fitted to the more basic entry level Cadillacs. e.g. the ABS brake system on my car is a modified version of an ABS system developed by Bendix Aviation for use on small & mid-size executive Lear Jets or say a Hawker Sidley HS 125 jet, so brakes that will REALLY stop a car right fast, my real worry is will the modern car behind be able to stop in time. Or the self levelling air / gas shock suspension system that virtually stops dead any lean or body roll, or accurate steering with well less than 3 turns from full right lock to full left lock these were very expensive hi-tech cars when new, well ahead of Ford's Lincoln division cars. I really know this as I own a 1979 Collector Series Lincoln Town car which is like a gussied dressed up Ford Galaxie, since it uses a longer version of the same chassis, same engine, drive line and electrical system. With the Lincoln simply having a simply a more opulent appearance inside and out e.g.36-ounce wool carpets, high quality Scot's leather for the seats and door panels, expensive JBL sound system, but otherwise all the mechanical running gear/chassis unit is the same found in the base model Ford Galaxie.
Just out of interest to overseas viewers, yes 40yr+ vehicles are exempt from inspection / MoT (Ministry of Transport test), but legally they still have to comply with normal standards to be roadworthy, albeit with a view to the original design of the vehicle. Therefore a 1902 (or 1982) car isn't expected to have 2024 standard brakes, but what it does have should work. Similarly, it should be just as structurally solid as its MoT-tested cousins. Anything less and potentially you're uninsured and liable to prosecution, no different from a modern car driver with a dangerous vehicle. So MoT exemption isn't an exemption from standards, it just accepts that young MoT testers can't be expected to make consistent and fair judgements on vehicles from a different era. After all, there were no MoT tests before the 60's anyway. All that said, bloody funny film, enjoyed that and subbed 😂
Yeah bro we have DOT (department of transportation) some states you don't need an inspection, while most you do, you can take the body of an 85 chevy and put a body of a ford over top of it and it's legal, anyway that cadillac is sweet a lot of americans like bigger vehicles
LOL the noise of all that rust. If you're scrapping it please can I have the AC compressor? fun fact It's the exact same old huge unit as on my V12 Jaguar, and I fancy trying to rebuild one. I'm not far from Reading
As someone who enjoys Pole Barn garage, Junkyard Digs and Roadkill back in the day. That's not even that bad, the rust is patchable and you're not falling through the floor. And yes, while the V8 does make 190hp when new, it also made 359ft-lbs at 3600RPM. It wasn't made to be a race car or sporty, it was supposed to glide as easily down a highway. It's basically a Diesel that uses gas instead.
@@NEEDbacon i got you but kinda defeats the point. We use diesel for torque and efficiency at the same time, it is the best type of engine for that, the concept of such big engines was flawed from the get go
Swap the cylinder heads and it will make over 500hp easy. 1973 and later had the "smog" heads. They were horribly restricted, and had a super low compression ratio.
My father used to say those cars can pass everything but a gas station. During the 70s we switched from leaded gasoline to unleaded. Once that happened, all those big engines had to be detuned. Insult to injury was adding emissions equipment. Those were designed for the previous decade and in that form (the correct gasoline, no emissions equipment), they were nearly as quick as a modern car. You lived first hand why we call it the Malaise era 🤣
Alex and Taylor on the AutoAlex channel often argue over who is the king of shitboxes, but since the launch of this channel and especially after the purchase of this tank, both of them don't even come close to you two. You are the Kings of Shitboxes.
Emissions killed the hp and torque. When first introduced on the 1970 Eldorado, the Cadillac 500 8.2 had 400 horsepower. That car is sad looking. Worth about $1k in the US.
That's gross hp though, which was measured with the engine on a stand with no accessories and a free flowing exhaust. They switched to net hp in 1972 which was done with the engine tested as it would be in the car (still on a stand though) and that's why all the numbers significantly dropped. The 500ci made 365 gross hp in 1971 and dropped to 235 net hp in 1972, both at 8.5:1 compression. Don't get me wrong, they still made really good power up until the late 60s/early 70s though because they had upwards of 10-11:1 compression back then, but gross hp is not really a comparable number to modern figures. That 472/500 was definitely a torque monster though
@@BlackOnyxC4 a lot of manufacturers did actually reduce hp in 1972, I think the 1971 engine would have had more like 280hp but they did make changes beyond just the compression from 71->72, leaded gas was being phased out and insurance rates were going up.
I ran a CarVertical report on my car just for fun. Its not just that there was nothing about the crash it had at some point. There was no information at all, not a single inspection. I think they only get information from brand garages. But if you want to conceil a crash you dont go to a brand dealer.
Top Dead Center: "If you're buying a used car, always run a CarVertical check!" Me: * puts in VIN of a 40 year old cadillac consisting of 73% rust * CarVertical: "Aye yo, wtf!"
2:15 There's actually probably a reason for that. All those sound effects were probably recorded from a car very similar in design to this one. It reminds me of that moment in Warhammer 40K when that Tau commando uses a geology scanner on a dreadnought and realizes to his horror that the dreadnought is older than their entire civilization.
Drove a Coupe de Ville from Asheville NC to New York and back, awesome trip but the car was just a collection of loose parts moving roughly in the same direction! Drew some looks!
I have to admit this is one of the best car channels yt its organically funny and decently original with the content the closest thing to fill the void left by top gear
I think Charlie is genuinely impressed with what you've turned up in judging by the way he speaks about it. I mean he still hates that you've turned up to his dyno but the car you've arrived in is ever so slightly less shit than all other stuff you've bought along to his shop. I think he genuinely approves of that car.
Hi, 1984 American here! Over here "nobody can tell us what to do" also applies to our cars! Brakes and steering are novel suggestions. Acceleration? It'll get around to it. The rust? Speed holes. Key out and engine still running? Factory option. MPG? You some kinda nerd?? 🤣
@@PointNemo9 I did. Now, could you tell your BOSS Vladimir Putin to do the same Sergei? Tell me, is it snowing Ukrainian drones at your house in RUSSIA this morning?
I grew up driving around the roads TDC use in their videos. I know first hand that the bridge they "jumped" did once see a 1989 panda get air-time going in the opposite direction. Great content guys and thanks for triggering fond memories!
Ok even if you don't restore it at least give it the classic American V8 treatment. New headers, exhaust, intake, new bore sleeves, basically whole engine rebuild and you'll fall in love
American cars designed for long, wide, flat roads and grid layout cities with huge expanses between them. Big car, comfort, big engine, low load lasts a very long time (at least engine wise). European cars designed for winding ancient roads with lots of elevation and speed changes, small engine, high load, fast response, manual gears and compact body.
@@MrKillswitch88 Do you want them to go bankrupt from the fuel costs? Not to mention, it's not like you can easily get any upgrade parts, let alone spares, in the UK.
I don’t think I’ve died quite so hard than watching that jump over the bridge😂😂 from Edwin shouting Blues Brothers, to the sound of pure disintigration, to the box office reaction on Will’s face on impact with the floor and the noise that followed. Absolutely prime TDC😂😂😂
I drove a Cadillac Coupe de Ville just like this from Asheville, NC to New York and back with my brother, got pulled over for speeding and then let off, great trip - you don’t forget trips in cars like this
5mpg is not surprising given how out of tune it is. But the best you'll ever get is around 10mpg, those big blocks just don't do fuel economy... Also... just be careful out there... just because a 40+ year old car doesn't require an MoT to be legal, the law still says it has to be roadworthy... Not canal worthy...
Also it basically works like a Diesel. While it only had 190hp when new it was grunting out 359 lb-ft of Torque all at 3600 RPM. And you can easily get more out of them if you bother to just unrestrict the breathing and throw in a bump stick to actually rev it..
Ah yes, Malaise Era. When the engines had more liters than horses in an attempt to achieve "fuel efficiency" and what every foreigner thinks all American cars are like all the time always forever of all eternity all day every day until the end of days. I mean, the engine is so incredibly detuned that if you fix it up it'l keep running forever because its never stressed. The rest of the body though... If you store it outside overnight you'll come back to a pile of rust with an engine sitting on it.
Mercedes of the same era achieved the same power out of 2.8 litres and still met environmental standards. The Americans were too lazy to build anything good
@@sys-administrator w123 280 made 175 I know as I had one, my mate had a pontiac Firebird at the same time, he couldn't keep up. Still absolutely woeful achievement given 3x the displacement, so not quite sure what point you're trying to make
Interesting that you mention Christine as your car is virtually identical to Will Darnells Cadillac Coupe Deville that he lends to Arnie, same colour as well, his was a 1974 in the film
Hi a real American here, this car came from what we call the Malays era of cars, if you just get rid of the smog pump and also just crank up the timing you will make more horsepower
@@Timico1000 what rallycobra said and because they literally said in the video, we shouldn't comment that. Theres plenty left to restore. Its extensive, but worth it. and 2k ish for so much car is a steal in my book!
@@02lucy666 Shure, everything can be restored...but you are at least 8-10k in if you want to make it safe to drive - and probably 3-5k more if you want a nice car. It´s like restoring the Titanic. ;) And yeah...they said "don´t comment that", when they said they won´t restore it.
As an American that's owned a few old 70s/80s American cars, it wasn't scripted. The fan clutch is likely completely worn out and isn't pulling air through the rad at low speed. Then you shut off the car, coolant stops circulating through the system and the already overheated water starts to boil over. Had it happen...many, many times.
I've seen a real good maintained and played passenger princess in it for a small tour (only minor restoration on it ) 1959 this summer with the original OHV V8 engine (ofcouse maintained and cleaned up). This car is just "car" you want to sit in and drive once in your lifetime. Just the pleasure of the drive and the old seats made me smile soo much
this is from the era where they cracked down hard on emissions. before then, cars would just casually come with 350hp etc etc. 16:57, how sick is that side profile though
Legally the car has to be safe roadworthy, it's just that it's the owners responsibility. This clearly wasn't. So they were in breach of that legislation in you want to be anal about it. They definitely said the quiet part out loud though. What's that rust hole? Nod and a wink, say nothing.
A showroom stock 1971 Coupe deVille came in 3rd place in the 1971 Cannonball Run coast to coast race. It had the highest average speed of the race, almost 85 MPH! Even with the oil embargo these sold in record numbers, even outselling Lincoln 2-1.
@@redline589 Well 48 years later yes! I have fond memories of these cars when they were new. A friends Mom had one, it was a 72 or 73, and we kids would go cruising in it! We were riding in style! I still remember how it sparkled like a diamond under the parking lot lights, and driving thru downtown with the reflections off the store windows.
My grandmother had a 72' Eldorado with that motor and BTW that is is a front wheel drive model. The turning circle was oddly small because it was 50 turns lock to lock and they turned about 90 degrees. That said, when in Florida I encountered an airboat with this motor and it was a ripper! The transmission is also desirable for some jet boat applications.
To be fair, the fact that it still runs and exists after 40+ years still puts it head and shoulders above the vast majority of British cars from the same era.
@@vhallediting6551Only the ones that were strictly maintained and restored. If any of them were simply left to rot like this clearly was, then there would be nothing left.
0:08 I was not expecting to see the bridge that I remember driving over and getting butterflies when I was a kid in a youtube video... It's been nearly 20 years since I've been in England and that just gave me the biggest shot of nostalgia XD
Did the math and just realized that gas/petrol costs $7.19 a gallon in the UK where they filled up. Always knew it cost more there, but double is crazy.
In the original first year of 1970 Cadillacs with the 500 engines actually made nearly 400 hp however, the following years they had to slowly further and further reduce the amount of horsepower due to constant emissions regulations put on by the US government. 😢😢😢
American car companies also refused to respond to those regulations by making decent small engined cars like the rest of the world, insisting instead on building badly strangled rot boxes with wheezing cruise ship engines. That's when the Japanese manufacturers simply walked into the market and took over. imo the big three had nobody to blame but themselves for their severe lack of engineering creativity.
It goes: Car manufacturers make nice things that are reliable Governments with no knowledge of how they work bring out stupid regulations Car manufacturers have to adhere to them and now the cars are less reliable Governments come out with new regulations People blame car manufacturers for unreliability
@@AI-Records24 The drop in the quality of American cars from 1960 to about 1980 wasn't a matter of regulation, just massive cost cutting. Absolutely blame the manufacturers for lack of reliability, there were a million things beyond a few bolt on emissions devices that made those cars so tragically awful.
There's not enough car to even start a restoration on - the body is GONE, the engine needs a total rebuild with higher compression pistons, the suspension needs to hammered out and replaced with something less resemblent of a boat.
To be fair: It could put out way more power , but it was built during the gas crisis (if i am not mistaken) and they had to make the cars as economically as possible(and failed). Look at the Mustang or the 67 cobra. They made over 350HP with less displacement.
Imagine purchasing a RUclips channel, removing its funding so the employees quit. AND THEN you see all the employees that quit, form three separate channels that outperform you. This totally imaginary and made up scenario would be crazy, right?
I used to have a 1976 Buick Electra which was a little bit longer than this. Had a 7.6 litre v8, made 197hp from factory and drank about as much fuel as yours. Was beautifully comfortable, and I daily drove it for a few months too.
Clicked because the thumbnail looked like my DeVille. Stayed because you had British accents, so I knew the reactions to the car would be hilarious. This was standard fodder in the U.S. in the '70s across all car brands. Your DeVille has _a lot_ more metal left on it than mine. I put snow tires on mine and use it as a winter beater. In blizzards it outperforms every other vehicle on the road. It also terrifies me that you're driving a car with no brakes without your seatbelts on (perhaps you were unaware that they are mounted on the ceiling in that particular car and they clip into the lap belt separately).
As an American I can confirm that yes we are indeed ashamed of that generation of cars and not just because of the ridiculously underpowered engines. Even the American companies sold better cars in Europe than they sold here, for example ford escort vs the ford pinto.
Lads, that is not what an MOT exemption is. All it means is that the responsibility for the car's roadworthiness falls on you rather than the guy at the garage. This is not how classic car owners operate, the vast majotity are aware of the responsibility they bear when maintaining a historic vehicle. If you got caught driving that or worse, had an accident, all those blatant issues are on you. Please don't take that back on the road without doing some serious work on it. You're endangering yourselves and others. I get that it's fun to do daft stuff like this but it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
You could sell the good parts, might make a good videos talking about how a car no matter how ruined can make a profit, certain parts could fetch couple pounds
Fun bit of trivia. The engine bay is so huge because Cadillac (as well as Lincoln, which had a similar-sized hood/bonnet) was in the process of developing a V-12 for it before the first oil crisis hit. In this car, that big V-8 only made 190 horsepower because of the recently implemented emissions restrictions as well as a new method for calculating power. That same engine made 375 horsepower the year it came out, 1971, before the restrictions started, at a time when Ferrari's V-12 made 340. Even then, the point of the engine was torque, not horsepower, as it put out 550 foot pounds of torque. That same Ferrari V-12 had 230 for comparison, but a whole lot less weight to deal with. All that being said, this one definitely wasn't well-cared for. It's also probably having difficulty with the higher octane fuels in England as it was designed to run on 87 octane without ethanol. I was working at a gas station when they introduced E5 ethanol fuel here in America, then bumped it up to E10. A lot of the older vehicles, my own included, were having horrible performance drops when that happened. I have had to run higher octane and special fluids to counteract the water in the ethanol in my older vehicles ever since. I especially got a good laugh when you complained about the weight. I'm pretty sure it's comparable with an electric car that's a little over half as big, so the more things change...
Kind of not true because the method of measuring horsepower changed from gross to net in 1972, now while most cars did lose a little horsepower in 1972, this car really only had maybe 270-290hp in 1971, which would have become 190hp by 1975 because they lowered the compression and reduced the timing etc. Take any car from 1971 or earlier listed hp and do x0.75 or so to get the real number.
Living in the northeast of the US the rust problem is real on those old steal beasts. Also even though I’m an American and love older cars, that one needs to be laid to rest haha
It's funny, they aren't used to how high displacement V8s tend to just *die* when you run out of gas. There's no slowly running out of beans, it doesn't just gradually lose power, no, they die like a lightswitch.
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it's not Christine , it's her weirdo cousin, frank!
In all seriousness this could be an incredible low rider project car. But no, you guys have clearly watched every episode of Top Gear thousands of times over and think that copying that on RUclips and selling Car Vertical for Alex Kirsten is 'good content'.
You guys are just sticking with the same formula of - buy cheap car online, make video about it, rinse and repeat.
Don't think that'll tire out some what..?
@@jimosborn3411 ok so watch something else instead, unlike plenty of other channels, that do that kind 9f stuff
What's the scrap value on that?
here's a fun idea. Weigh the car, get it iceblasted, weigh it again. See how many kilo's of rust comes off and how much car is actually left.
That would be a fun video!
i don't know anything about iceblasting, but i'd imagine it wouldn't be as fun for their budget
It’s American🫵 it’s lbs
Race car weight reduction. I'm not paying a ai program to take away non necessary weight. Sandblasted and nature😎 fast...er ig
I'm sorry... You think there'll be car left to weigh???
"Actual sound of the car disintegrating" this is one of your best videos and worst purchases in one go. Top work lads
As an American who’s owned many a rusty rolling-land-yacht over the years - they all make that noise when jostled. XD
11:42 when big childrens aren't know how carburetor works and try to kill the starter
Fortunately near the end of the video one of them mentioned doing the wisest thing that should be done with it, i.e., driven to a scrapyard.
I’m the bloke in the Leon who over took you on the slip road because you came to a dead stop for no reason 😂 now I know why! Recognised the car instantly!
Nice of you to stop and help!
@@althejazzman
Who says he knows anything about cars.
@@althejazzman Ah yes i'm sure you stop for every car that is stopped in the road.
@@Gavass It's true, I don't. I was just joking that's all. It's very Top Gear to leave the stricken to get on with it.
I had an hours drive home at about 5pm, I’d leave my own mother at the side of the road if it meant I got home quicker 😂😂
That slow mo over the bridge with the noise of a crumbling Cadillac is the funniest thing on YT
Absolutely pissed myself laughing at that
I had a 1965 Cadillac, which was 7 litre and 340bhp. The smog in the 70's regulations killed the power. They are actually really nice cars.
Did you live in an area with bad weather that would rust the car? I'm thinking about importing a 1966 DeVille Convertible to the UK but one wouldn't fit in my garage so I don't know how I'd stop it from rusting
Quite a lot of them are this one isn’t that 😂
@@elementalb3m957 Do they salt the roads heavily in the UK during winter?
@ryanwiese5280 They have used rock salt gritters where I live but it doesn't snow or get icy here anymore. Maybe 3-5 days a year
@@elementalb3m957 These old americanos rust like hell, a convertible would also give you the additional trouble with the roof. I'd strongly advise you not to get such a car if it can't be kept dry. I've got a 57 Thunderbird that wasn't garage kept and you wouldn't believe the rot that was even on already replaced panels
Jumping that bridge in thousand tonnes of Caddie was hilarious!!
agreed, almost died laughing. 😅
This certainly is one of the cars of all time
@@Goschl28 one of the cars, almost two of the cars
Definitely a car.
More of a boat @@samuelgarrod8327
😂😂
That’s a American car. Who needs speed if u have a luxury limo that tows like a truck
This instantly brings to memory "he must have walked into a dealership, *helleow*, and they'd just shot him"
im sorry what? :D
Mays Titanic was in better shape though
@@peteralexander6514 You realize how bad this cars are when you remember they were bonded together with newspapers in the 2000s when they filmed top gear 😂😂
“Nascar sucks”
@@isaacsrandomvideos667 "Hillary for president"
This is why hot rodding was so big in the States in the 70s, because by the time you take this 8 liter engine and upgrade away all the weirdness that's corking the engine up, there you are laying down 13 second quarter mile times in your stupendous Cadillac.
You didn’t show us the best part: the horn!
My first car was a 70’s land yacht. 4 door. Maybe 100hp. 24 seconds 0-60 sounds about right. It was super comfortable - like riding down the road on your sofa. But being so wide, it made navigating tight roads tricky. On top of that was the super boosted power steering and you could turn the wheel 90 degrees without changing directions. So forget small steering adjustments. You put the car in to a turn, spotted the exit point, and roughly aimed for that. Taught me to look WAY down the road while driving, not just right in front of my car, because stopping or swerving took some planning. It really made me a better driver - especially in snowy winters with all season tires.
the horn was probably broken
True I have a 1980 Cadillac Seville. I love the horn.
It’s a nice car in bad shape
@@jliscorpioI don't even have to say nothing lol
24 seconds means you were driving a broken car.
Everybody gangsta till TDC pull up in the barge
@speedonhoes
waiting for miss trunchable to get her shotputs out the trunk lol
More like titanic.
Just as rusty too
Good thing they added all that extra Quality American Steel. It's got plenty of rusting to go before it gets structural.
@@junatah5903 Titanic has held up better!
I daily a 1978 Cadillac DeVille in Denmark. I put an LS in it and drive around 15k miles a year. This is not an awful car, just not in the best shape. You won't find anything more comfortable.The mechanical advance is most likely just stuck. Get it freed up and youll make a lot more power. The key coming out is also very normal on older GM cars
Changing the advance would probably also double the 'gas-mileage'...?
@@iamaparanoidandroid1 Highly unlikely, as now it's just pouring in the fuel without getting anything done, if anything else it'll probably double the mpg as fuel is not being dumped to waste. Just the slightest bit of basic maintenance, carb tune up and flushing the cooling system would do this car wonders.
@@jermulehtila5014 Yes. That is what I said....
@@iamaparanoidandroid1 tell ya hwat, I can't read
@@iamaparanoidandroid1 8-12mpg is typical of a normal one
Love seeing classic American cars in the UK, more variety than oversaturated Crossovers and SUVs
Getting my 1995. Toyota Corolla back on the road again... Very dark green color- might be "Royal Green".
Yeah I got a real soft spot for American cars thanks to the rarity
Hi from Sydney, Australia. In a weeks' time I will have owned a 1974 Fleetwood Brougham Talisman version for 42years, I bought it as an 8yr old car with 102,000kl,s on it or 60,000miles. It was sent as a CKD kit (completely knocked down) to be built here in Sydney as a RHD car to be compliant with Aussie rules & regulations. Best of all it is a full power car with none of the power sapping US anti-pollution devices so the almost 8.3 litre car has 450 horsepower in basic tune, with some slight tweaks this soon goes over 500 hp.
After 42 years of driving, it the odometer now has 706,000klms or 445,000 miles it has been flawless. In dry mostly fine weather there's zero rust. Re the massive 13" diff this was created to work with a 13. litre V12 modular version of this engine which was to have 750 hp in basic tune, If you compared your car to a mid '70's Jaguar , you have the base level 4.2ltr Jaguar XJC coupe, the Jaguar sedans came in 2 lengths of wheelbase, with the absolute premium version, depending on country sold in being the Jaguar or Daimler Van Den Plas long wheelbase, this is what my '74 Cadillac Talisman is. AND in 1974 this elaborate car came with GM's Air Cushion Restraint System (airbags) it also has the MAXTRAC handling system, which is self levelling suspension, ABS brakes, traction control tied to speed sensitive steering. NOT a joke of a car, but rather an ultra-competent world beater. Few were made in the USA, only a handful of CKD kits were ordered by Aussie customers built at GM Holden Aust's Pagewood plant in Sydney. With a central passenger section looking way different than your car , and fitted with padded leather consoles front and rear making it a huge 4-seater car, seats made by Sealy Posturepedic bedding company, In '74 one of the world's most expensive cars, and finally let me say extreme quality as well as the car is still using its original engine, plus all of its equipment still works flawlessly, in its Sable black paint , and Italian Tan interior it looks very classy. After 10 years of ownership I bought a second one , my "spare" is a White '72 RHD Brougham.
I beg you to share your cars history with automotive magazines or journalists. I would pay to see that printed and documented!
Cool story, these cars are absolutely under the rader.
Would love to see a video about your car.
It would be awesome to do all of this as a RUclips video. It's amazing just what you wrote, and seeing more of it would be absolutely perfect. Please consider this idea, it would be amazing. I wish you many more miles 👍👍
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck You can 2 years ago s mate has made 4 videos of my 2 Cadillacs they are on his you tube channel, type in Mark Behr. next type in Cadillac you will find there are 4 videos they are some of his early videos if you just scroll down. 2 on the black 1974 model plus 2 more on my white almost identical 1972 model. There is a walk and talk around video for each car and a drive video for each car. I bought the white one 10 years after the black one. Hope you enjoy watching them.
These premium Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham models were competent well-made well-built long distance road cars filled with then state of the art equipment not fitted to the more basic entry level Cadillacs. e.g. the ABS brake system on my car is a modified version of an ABS system developed by Bendix Aviation for use on small & mid-size executive Lear Jets or say a Hawker Sidley HS 125 jet, so brakes that will REALLY stop a car right fast, my real worry is will the modern car behind be able to stop in time. Or the self levelling air / gas shock suspension system that virtually stops dead any lean or body roll, or accurate steering with well less than 3 turns from full right lock to full left lock these were very expensive hi-tech cars when new, well ahead of Ford's Lincoln division cars. I really know this as I own a 1979 Collector Series Lincoln Town car which is like a gussied dressed up Ford Galaxie, since it uses a longer version of the same chassis, same engine, drive line and electrical system. With the Lincoln simply having a simply a more opulent appearance inside and out e.g.36-ounce wool carpets, high quality Scot's leather for the seats and door panels, expensive JBL sound system, but otherwise all the mechanical running gear/chassis unit is the same found in the base model Ford Galaxie.
Just out of interest to overseas viewers, yes 40yr+ vehicles are exempt from inspection / MoT (Ministry of Transport test), but legally they still have to comply with normal standards to be roadworthy, albeit with a view to the original design of the vehicle.
Therefore a 1902 (or 1982) car isn't expected to have 2024 standard brakes, but what it does have should work. Similarly, it should be just as structurally solid as its MoT-tested cousins.
Anything less and potentially you're uninsured and liable to prosecution, no different from a modern car driver with a dangerous vehicle.
So MoT exemption isn't an exemption from standards, it just accepts that young MoT testers can't be expected to make consistent and fair judgements on vehicles from a different era. After all, there were no MoT tests before the 60's anyway.
All that said, bloody funny film, enjoyed that and subbed 😂
Speaking as an American, this was both very interesting and quite enlightening. Thanks!!
Yeah bro we have DOT (department of transportation) some states you don't need an inspection, while most you do, you can take the body of an 85 chevy and put a body of a ford over top of it and it's legal, anyway that cadillac is sweet a lot of americans like bigger vehicles
That slow mo over the bridge with the noise of a crumbling Cadillac is the funniest thing on YT 😂
Ben's face is priceless.
Wonder how much rusty metal was left on the road?
LOL the noise of all that rust. If you're scrapping it please can I have the AC compressor? fun fact It's the exact same old huge unit as on my V12 Jaguar, and I fancy trying to rebuild one. I'm not far from Reading
So that’s where that car went . Saw it on Facebook marketplace haha
As someone who enjoys Pole Barn garage, Junkyard Digs and Roadkill back in the day. That's not even that bad, the rust is patchable and you're not falling through the floor. And yes, while the V8 does make 190hp when new, it also made 359ft-lbs at 3600RPM. It wasn't made to be a race car or sporty, it was supposed to glide as easily down a highway. It's basically a Diesel that uses gas instead.
Right? I've seen worse drive hundreds of miles, and it'll feel like a cloud the whole time.
Mate it does 55L/100KM, diesel mercedes from that time did 5.5-7L/100KM
@@mrreziik Well in terms of performance, not fuel economy. Low horse power (Cause lol no revs), but lots of Torque.
Best description ever. A diesel that uses gas.
@@NEEDbacon i got you but kinda defeats the point. We use diesel for torque and efficiency at the same time, it is the best type of engine for that, the concept of such big engines was flawed from the get go
Swap the cylinder heads and it will make over 500hp easy. 1973 and later had the "smog" heads. They were horribly restricted, and had a super low compression ratio.
That fuel consumption is insane, that is even worse than a truck/lorry with a full trailer.
@@Braxel_ well back when lead gasoline was a thing in this country nobody really cared gas was back than cheaper than it is now.
@@parkerraines216in the early 70s? it was as bad as it is now due to the embargo
The mechanical advance is broken
Worst Car? My Wife's Clio engined Qashqai gets that crown
Didn’t expect to see you here tomley
Wait are those the 1.6 litre Non-turbo diesels?
@@Jothebro12 Cars are my thing.... especially old rusty ones :)
@@HoodlumMedia 1.5 DCi.. but very underpowered for a big Qashqai. Worse car I've ever driven, and I've driven a fair few!
@@TomleyRCI love all cars as long the don’t fall apart when you drive them lol
6:27, you should restore this car!!
I second this
@@xotic4846 I third this
@@xotic4846i third this
It’s WAY too far gone I think…
@@andyreynolds6194 Weld some parts, change some parts, sand it down, paint it by hand and its done
kind of
I bought a 1976 Caddy Fleetwood Brougham for £110 in 2001. It had an MoT. Largest post war non stretch Cadillac ever made. Great car.
My father used to say those cars can pass everything but a gas station. During the 70s we switched from leaded gasoline to unleaded. Once that happened, all those big engines had to be detuned. Insult to injury was adding emissions equipment. Those were designed for the previous decade and in that form (the correct gasoline, no emissions equipment), they were nearly as quick as a modern car. You lived first hand why we call it the Malaise era 🤣
Alex and Taylor on the AutoAlex channel often argue over who is the king of shitboxes, but since the launch of this channel and especially after the purchase of this tank, both of them don't even come close to you two. You are the Kings of Shitboxes.
Emissions killed the hp and torque. When first introduced on the 1970 Eldorado, the Cadillac 500 8.2 had 400 horsepower. That car is sad looking. Worth about $1k in the US.
That's gross hp though, which was measured with the engine on a stand with no accessories and a free flowing exhaust. They switched to net hp in 1972 which was done with the engine tested as it would be in the car (still on a stand though) and that's why all the numbers significantly dropped. The 500ci made 365 gross hp in 1971 and dropped to 235 net hp in 1972, both at 8.5:1 compression. Don't get me wrong, they still made really good power up until the late 60s/early 70s though because they had upwards of 10-11:1 compression back then, but gross hp is not really a comparable number to modern figures. That 472/500 was definitely a torque monster though
@@BlackOnyxC4 You are correct.
1K$ for this crap? Really?
@@gerdhaase5413€ 8000 in the Netherlands..
@@BlackOnyxC4 a lot of manufacturers did actually reduce hp in 1972, I think the 1971 engine would have had more like 280hp but they did make changes beyond just the compression from 71->72, leaded gas was being phased out and insurance rates were going up.
That isn't rust; it's the built-in vehicle tracking system.
Hansel/Grettle Vehicle Location Services Inc.
All the money people spend on those cyber trucks, I would easily dump $80,000 into restoring this Caddy over one of those things any day.
I ran a CarVertical report on my car just for fun. Its not just that there was nothing about the crash it had at some point. There was no information at all, not a single inspection. I think they only get information from brand garages. But if you want to conceil a crash you dont go to a brand dealer.
Don’t think it shows crashes, only if the car is written off, your car was repaired by insurance there’s nothing
Top Dead Center: "If you're buying a used car, always run a CarVertical check!"
Me: * puts in VIN of a 40 year old cadillac consisting of 73% rust *
CarVertical: "Aye yo, wtf!"
Cadillac: ‘I’m such a heavy saloon car. I might be one of the heaviest!’
New M5: … ‘Hold my beer’
The M5 has gone from a tight sports saloon to a very fast land boat.
Absoloutely love the barge content!!! please make it a build series back up to somewhat working spec please! nothing perfect
2:15 There's actually probably a reason for that. All those sound effects were probably recorded from a car very similar in design to this one. It reminds me of that moment in Warhammer 40K when that Tau commando uses a geology scanner on a dreadnought and realizes to his horror that the dreadnought is older than their entire civilization.
Drove a Coupe de Ville from Asheville NC to New York and back, awesome trip but the car was just a collection of loose parts moving roughly in the same direction! Drew some looks!
I have to admit this is one of the best car channels yt its organically funny and decently original with the content the closest thing to fill the void left by top gear
I think Charlie is genuinely impressed with what you've turned up in judging by the way he speaks about it. I mean he still hates that you've turned up to his dyno but the car you've arrived in is ever so slightly less shit than all other stuff you've bought along to his shop. I think he genuinely approves of that car.
Hi, 1984 American here! Over here "nobody can tell us what to do" also applies to our cars! Brakes and steering are novel suggestions. Acceleration? It'll get around to it. The rust? Speed holes. Key out and engine still running? Factory option. MPG? You some kinda nerd?? 🤣
Hell, in Ron DeathSantis Flori-Duh, traffic laws are not actually laws at all. More like....Suggestions~
@@Flies2FLL Grow up
@@PointNemo9 I did. Now, could you tell your BOSS Vladimir Putin to do the same Sergei?
Tell me, is it snowing Ukrainian drones at your house in RUSSIA this morning?
@@Flies2FLL Okay boomer
@@PointNemo9 Did your mother Sluka get that 100 ruble note I left on her dresser last week?
I grew up driving around the roads TDC use in their videos. I know first hand that the bridge they "jumped" did once see a 1989 panda get air-time going in the opposite direction. Great content guys and thanks for triggering fond memories!
Ok even if you don't restore it at least give it the classic American V8 treatment.
New headers, exhaust, intake, new bore sleeves, basically whole engine rebuild and you'll fall in love
Suspension too.
The bridge jump was worth £2900
Uncle buck vibes
Yesss 😁👍
Yeah take the shocks out of it 😆
Couldn't say it any better dude...
No but.... Yebbut.....waitta.....howabouta.....Whatsa........Awwwwwww cumon!
Brilliant 🎉you guys are nailing it ! Great entertaining video! The bridge jump was hilarious! The sound of the rust falling off was masterclass
American cars designed for long, wide, flat roads and grid layout cities with huge expanses between them. Big car, comfort, big engine, low load lasts a very long time (at least engine wise).
European cars designed for winding ancient roads with lots of elevation and speed changes, small engine, high load, fast response, manual gears and compact body.
14.6hp per litre 😂😂😂😂
I am absolutely loving all your content boys! Thanks for the entertainment 👊👊
1. Keep the engine
2. Salvage and sell whatever else that has something more than scrap value
Why would you want to keep that engine?
@@J0uwMoeder because 8.2 liter v8
@@J0uwMoeder That engine when rebuilt and with some upgrades is a monster hence why keep it while selling off the heap of rust for parts.
@@MrKillswitch88 Do you want them to go bankrupt from the fuel costs? Not to mention, it's not like you can easily get any upgrade parts, let alone spares, in the UK.
@@no1DdC I had absolutely no idea a single engine can lead to bankruptcy due to fuel costs...
Banger racing candidate! Should make for an excellent TDC episode 👍
I don’t think I’ve died quite so hard than watching that jump over the bridge😂😂 from Edwin shouting Blues Brothers, to the sound of pure disintigration, to the box office reaction on Will’s face on impact with the floor and the noise that followed. Absolutely prime TDC😂😂😂
I drove a Cadillac Coupe de Ville just like this from Asheville, NC to New York and back with my brother, got pulled over for speeding and then let off, great trip - you don’t forget trips in cars like this
5mpg is not surprising given how out of tune it is. But the best you'll ever get is around 10mpg, those big blocks just don't do fuel economy... Also... just be careful out there... just because a 40+ year old car doesn't require an MoT to be legal, the law still says it has to be roadworthy... Not canal worthy...
14:15 "Rusty American Turd"
Yep, that looks appropriate for a official name...
The 1970s oil crisis killed performance. A 1960s Mustang had twice that power.
At least they sorted the fuel economy out.🤣
Hind sight is 20/20 but were their eyes closed in thinking an 8.2L was the economic solution
California emissions after 1974, really.
also worth mentioning that they changed the way of measuring power, that alone lost some cars 50-100hp.
Also it basically works like a Diesel. While it only had 190hp when new it was grunting out 359 lb-ft of Torque all at 3600 RPM. And you can easily get more out of them if you bother to just unrestrict the breathing and throw in a bump stick to actually rev it..
14:17 "rusty american turd" love it
From the looks of it, a good carburator rebuild and timing adjustement along with getting rid of the emissions junk would help that car out a LOT
During the 70s the EPA was formed so auto makers like Cadillac and Lincoln held back the power to improve emissions.
Ah yes, Malaise Era. When the engines had more liters than horses in an attempt to achieve "fuel efficiency" and what every foreigner thinks all American cars are like all the time always forever of all eternity all day every day until the end of days.
I mean, the engine is so incredibly detuned that if you fix it up it'l keep running forever because its never stressed. The rest of the body though... If you store it outside overnight you'll come back to a pile of rust with an engine sitting on it.
Erm...@@sys-administrator
Mercedes of the same era achieved the same power out of 2.8 litres and still met environmental standards. The Americans were too lazy to build anything good
@@sys-administrator from less than half the capacity. 🤔
Sounds a damn sight more efficient to me.
@@sys-administrator you missed the point. 😂
@@sys-administrator w123 280 made 175 I know as I had one, my mate had a pontiac Firebird at the same time, he couldn't keep up. Still absolutely woeful achievement given 3x the displacement, so not quite sure what point you're trying to make
Still in wayyy better shape than most of the 70's buckets still on the road in the 90's when I was a kid in Chicago.
13:40 Charlie looks like an absolute weapon in those sunglasses
When we were kids, my brother and I had a full playground on road trips, so much room for activities.
Interesting that you mention Christine as your car is virtually identical to Will Darnells Cadillac Coupe Deville that he lends to Arnie, same colour as well, his was a 1974 in the film
Restore it. Do it. You'll regret it, but do it.
they probably won't but would be cool if they did
Hi a real American here, this car came from what we call the Malays era of cars, if you just get rid of the smog pump and also just crank up the timing you will make more horsepower
Malaise era. Malays are from Malaysia. Unless they are somehow to blame for the strict emissions regulations when this car was made?
Lol @@JamesChurchill3
@@JamesChurchill3runs on palm oil
@@JamesChurchill3Malays came from Malaya, which ceased to be a nation in 1957. Malaysians come from Malaysia.
@JamesChurchill3 this comment made me laugh too much 😂
Change the spark plugs and maintnance it and then dyno :)
This is not a bad vehicle. It's American. At least we don't have washing machines in our kitchens and dry our clothes in the living room.
Oh you... You should restore it. Like seriously. These are cool.
Probably the coolest car in your fleet
Restore what? There´s nothing left to restore. ;)
@@Timico1000Anything can be restored
@@Timico1000 what rallycobra said and because they literally said in the video, we shouldn't comment that.
Theres plenty left to restore. Its extensive, but worth it. and 2k ish for so much car is a steal in my book!
@@02lucy666 Shure, everything can be restored...but you are at least 8-10k in if you want to make it safe to drive - and probably 3-5k more if you want a nice car. It´s like restoring the Titanic. ;)
And yeah...they said "don´t comment that", when they said they won´t restore it.
Behave! it’s a pile of shit
17:05 the Caddy puking at the parking lot feels almost scripted
Conversely, I had an MG Midget in the US that would do the same after a 10 minute drive on a highway. I guess some cars just reject being relocated.😂
As an American that's owned a few old 70s/80s American cars, it wasn't scripted.
The fan clutch is likely completely worn out and isn't pulling air through the rad at low speed.
Then you shut off the car, coolant stops circulating through the system and the already overheated water starts to boil over.
Had it happen...many, many times.
If you guys end up wanting to scrap it, get to to a banger race for a last blaze of glory!
Honestly best idea here.
RESTORE THIS CAR
I've seen a real good maintained and played passenger princess in it for a small tour (only minor restoration on it ) 1959 this summer with the original OHV V8 engine (ofcouse maintained and cleaned up). This car is just "car" you want to sit in and drive once in your lifetime. Just the pleasure of the drive and the old seats made me smile soo much
this is from the era where they cracked down hard on emissions. before then, cars would just casually come with 350hp etc etc. 16:57, how sick is that side profile though
09:11 bro keep it down, next thing you know they will remove the 40 year old rule... ive got 7 more years on my 300zx
My thoughts exactly, they are doing us no favours here.
Legally the car has to be safe roadworthy, it's just that it's the owners responsibility. This clearly wasn't. So they were in breach of that legislation in you want to be anal about it. They definitely said the quiet part out loud though. What's that rust hole? Nod and a wink, say nothing.
A showroom stock 1971 Coupe deVille came in 3rd place in the 1971 Cannonball Run coast to coast race. It had the highest average speed of the race, almost 85 MPH! Even with the oil embargo these sold in record numbers, even outselling Lincoln 2-1.
Americans really do have zero taste.
Cool facts. . . but still a crap car :)
@@redline589 Well 48 years later yes! I have fond memories of these cars when they were new. A friends Mom had one, it was a 72 or 73, and we kids would go cruising in it! We were riding in style! I still remember how it sparkled like a diamond under the parking lot lights, and driving thru downtown with the reflections off the store windows.
@@joesmithjoesmith4284 Yeah nostalgia hits hard, at least the V8 should sound good maybe.
@@redline589 when the car was new you didn't hear it at all! Super quiet. Back then people wanted smooth and quiet.
My grandmother had a 72' Eldorado with that motor and BTW that is is a front wheel drive model. The turning circle was oddly small because it was 50 turns lock to lock and they turned about 90 degrees. That said, when in Florida I encountered an airboat with this motor and it was a ripper! The transmission is also desirable for some jet boat applications.
Banger race it at a back to basics meeting. Give it a proper send off.
18:30 "If *anyone* cut me up.. _I'M KILLING YOU!_ It's as simple as *THAT* " 🤣
That's nothing to do with the brakes, that's just Cadillac ownership.
I wonder if the Microcar would go in the boot of the Caddy, footprint not height of course 🤔
To be fair, the fact that it still runs and exists after 40+ years still puts it head and shoulders above the vast majority of British cars from the same era.
even more so when you think about how wet it is around there, something american cars clearly werent designed with in mind
Most of our classics got scrapped in a scrappage scheme. Plenty of classic 40+ year old British icons still about.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. 70% of the car still exists at most.
@@vhallediting6551Only the ones that were strictly maintained and restored. If any of them were simply left to rot like this clearly was, then there would be nothing left.
@@mahuba2553because it doesn't rain in the US?
0:08 I was not expecting to see the bridge that I remember driving over and getting butterflies when I was a kid in a youtube video... It's been nearly 20 years since I've been in England and that just gave me the biggest shot of nostalgia XD
Did the math and just realized that gas/petrol costs $7.19 a gallon in the UK where they filled up. Always knew it cost more there, but double is crazy.
In the original first year of 1970 Cadillacs with the 500 engines actually made nearly 400 hp however, the following years they had to slowly further and further reduce the amount of horsepower due to constant emissions regulations put on by the US government. 😢😢😢
So this is the eco version!
American car companies also refused to respond to those regulations by making decent small engined cars like the rest of the world, insisting instead on building badly strangled rot boxes with wheezing cruise ship engines. That's when the Japanese manufacturers simply walked into the market and took over. imo the big three had nobody to blame but themselves for their severe lack of engineering creativity.
It goes:
Car manufacturers make nice things that are reliable
Governments with no knowledge of how they work bring out stupid regulations
Car manufacturers have to adhere to them and now the cars are less reliable
Governments come out with new regulations
People blame car manufacturers for unreliability
@@AI-Records24 The drop in the quality of American cars from 1960 to about 1980 wasn't a matter of regulation, just massive cost cutting. Absolutely blame the manufacturers for lack of reliability, there were a million things beyond a few bolt on emissions devices that made those cars so tragically awful.
Yup, Heads, Cam, Intake (HCI) and better carb would really make it into a monster
One for Yorkshire Car Restoration?
Don’t put tdc in debt please
@@hashimtoogood3811dew it
is there even enough car left to restore after removing the rust?
@@enisra_bowman they just make a new car
There's not enough car to even start a restoration on - the body is GONE, the engine needs a total rebuild with higher compression pistons, the suspension needs to hammered out and replaced with something less resemblent of a boat.
TDC needs to make a series on this car. Idk what, but sumthing.
They need to take it to a track, what could possibly go wrong 😂
@5:35 as the owner of an early-mid 2000s bmw that gong sound effect makes my heart sink everytime i hear it
13:59 is that Bam Magera 😂😂😂
To be fair:
It could put out way more power , but it was built during the gas crisis (if i am not mistaken) and they had to make the cars as economically as possible(and failed). Look at the Mustang or the 67 cobra. They made over 350HP with less displacement.
Imagine purchasing a RUclips channel, removing its funding so the employees quit.
AND THEN you see all the employees that quit, form three separate channels that outperform you.
This totally imaginary and made up scenario would be crazy, right?
The channels aren't entirely separate
7:29 still writing "asshole" in french everywhere without knowing....
lol yeah
Eh? TDC is French for asshole?
I used to have a 1976 Buick Electra which was a little bit longer than this. Had a 7.6 litre v8, made 197hp from factory and drank about as much fuel as yours.
Was beautifully comfortable, and I daily drove it for a few months too.
Clicked because the thumbnail looked like my DeVille. Stayed because you had British accents, so I knew the reactions to the car would be hilarious. This was standard fodder in the U.S. in the '70s across all car brands. Your DeVille has _a lot_ more metal left on it than mine. I put snow tires on mine and use it as a winter beater. In blizzards it outperforms every other vehicle on the road.
It also terrifies me that you're driving a car with no brakes without your seatbelts on (perhaps you were unaware that they are mounted on the ceiling in that particular car and they clip into the lap belt separately).
Full restoration in episode 2, right?
As an American I can confirm that yes we are indeed ashamed of that generation of cars and not just because of the ridiculously underpowered engines. Even the American companies sold better cars in Europe than they sold here, for example ford escort vs the ford pinto.
Lads, that is not what an MOT exemption is. All it means is that the responsibility for the car's roadworthiness falls on you rather than the guy at the garage. This is not how classic car owners operate, the vast majotity are aware of the responsibility they bear when maintaining a historic vehicle. If you got caught driving that or worse, had an accident, all those blatant issues are on you. Please don't take that back on the road without doing some serious work on it. You're endangering yourselves and others. I get that it's fun to do daft stuff like this but it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
"It's like throwing a sausage down a hallway!" My fave TDC quote.
that jump was epic
You could sell the good parts, might make a good videos talking about how a car no matter how ruined can make a profit, certain parts could fetch couple pounds
I can't imagine there's much demand for these parts in the UK or Europe as a whole. They're not making their money back from this.
That is one big American land yacht
Fun bit of trivia. The engine bay is so huge because Cadillac (as well as Lincoln, which had a similar-sized hood/bonnet) was in the process of developing a V-12 for it before the first oil crisis hit. In this car, that big V-8 only made 190 horsepower because of the recently implemented emissions restrictions as well as a new method for calculating power. That same engine made 375 horsepower the year it came out, 1971, before the restrictions started, at a time when Ferrari's V-12 made 340. Even then, the point of the engine was torque, not horsepower, as it put out 550 foot pounds of torque. That same Ferrari V-12 had 230 for comparison, but a whole lot less weight to deal with.
All that being said, this one definitely wasn't well-cared for. It's also probably having difficulty with the higher octane fuels in England as it was designed to run on 87 octane without ethanol. I was working at a gas station when they introduced E5 ethanol fuel here in America, then bumped it up to E10. A lot of the older vehicles, my own included, were having horrible performance drops when that happened. I have had to run higher octane and special fluids to counteract the water in the ethanol in my older vehicles ever since.
I especially got a good laugh when you complained about the weight. I'm pretty sure it's comparable with an electric car that's a little over half as big, so the more things change...
Good info there, damn V12 needs to be installed on one of these.
Kind of not true because the method of measuring horsepower changed from gross to net in 1972, now while most cars did lose a little horsepower in 1972, this car really only had maybe 270-290hp in 1971, which would have become 190hp by 1975 because they lowered the compression and reduced the timing etc. Take any car from 1971 or earlier listed hp and do x0.75 or so to get the real number.
Living in the northeast of the US the rust problem is real on those old steal beasts. Also even though I’m an American and love older cars, that one needs to be laid to rest haha
It's funny, they aren't used to how high displacement V8s tend to just *die* when you run out of gas. There's no slowly running out of beans, it doesn't just gradually lose power, no, they die like a lightswitch.