This week on Gun Gamers, E House has returned from vacation and talks to you about the pros and cons of building your airsoft loadout as an impression.
I started off my airsoft "career" building up a Vietnam impression, which spiraled waaay out of control. I had tons of fun doing the research and building the kits, but I always struggled at games and OPs, since my Vietnam equipment is all I ever had. It took me longer than I'm proud to admit to realize that running a historical kit at an everyday pickup game or a modern themed OP meant I was putting myself at a disadvantage for aesthetics. I was slower, heavier, less comfortable, and less effective than almost everyone else - but I wasn't about to sacrifice the authenticity of the impression I'd spent months researching and thousand of dollars building for airsoft's sake. I ended up separating my historical impressions from airsoft and I've done blank fire reenacting for the past few years. Now that I'm finally getting back into the game, I'm forcing myself to remember how miserable I was before so I don't relapse and start doing an impression as my main and only loadout again.
Dude SAME. I started a US Army Combat Engineer circa ~1989/1990 loadout. It's quite a bit cheaper than a 'nam loadout, but it's just so difficult to get the right gear, especially in a normal size. I swear I've seen a thousand SM/XS PSGT vest for every one L/XL PSGT vest. I just fucking gave up on making it accurate, and stripped it WAY the hell down. And I still move like a tank! I usually swap it out for a Gopnik/Insugent loadout. Adidas top, BDU bottoms, flecktarn chest rig, bundeswehr field cap, AK47. Is it accurate to anything, ever? No. Do I move fast as fuck on the field? Yup! Am I incredibly effective? Well, no, cuz I suck. But if I didn't, I would be!
Some guys probably know this, but, most don't, in countries such as Russia, Belarus and Ukraine that is the only way to play airsoft, 95% of all teams do an impersonation of some unit, e.i. DEA quick response unit, Nicaraguan piranhas, taliban and etc. They take it very seriously, people or teams that don't do impersonation are called "pokemons"))) thats why manufacturer companies like G&G, ICS and Krytak and many others are not popular for having wrong markings on the gun. Oh and one more thing, they call airsoft-strikeball. Little fun fact about airsoft in other countries)))) anywho, love your channel, very positive, tons of interesting content and info. Regards from Turkey via Azerbaijan))))
totiksilkway Do they have people in Russia (mainly people from the caucuses) dress in their traditional costumes (cherkesska, papakha, gaziri etc.) and play like that in a team of some sort? As I’m a circassian from the shapsug tribe (living in America though) and have always been curious about people airsofting like that.
honestly it's way better than here. here in italy it's rare that someone would do impression kits and who does it usually looked down for it or it's straight up called an inept dumbfuck
ive heard of guys in the military blaming airsofters and the civilian gun owner community at large for increased demand/back stock on certain items (plate carriers, camo clothes, boots). Ive always thought that was an issue with the manufacturer and not the consumer because they usually have separate sales lines for military/leo and civilian markets. if by chance they manufacturer doesn't then its not our fault or problem.
Military guys don't seem the brightest. Increase in market demand causes higher production volumes thus lowering the price for production. Everyone benefits.
@@SpectreDM And America is capitalist. If civilians and military are buying up military gear, the manufactures better step up their game on production. Classic supply and demand
This was problematic for me when I built a Vietnam War kit for a themed game at my local field. I started the day with belt and suspenders, 3 ammo pouches, 2 canteens, butt pack with spare clothes, E-tool, bandolier, M1 helmet... and slowly shed things from my belt as the day went on. By the end of the day, there was a pile of stuff at our designated FOB that was basically everything I had ditched from my kit, and all I had on my belt was two ammo pouches and the canteens.
I'll never ever go reenactment, cosplay route again, for that exact reason. I want something that can play airsoft well. That's all I need. I don't wanna cosplay some military unit. I once tried doing a early 90s US solider with Alice Belt PASGT armor and helmet. It sucked. I was so uncomfortable. This was before I was in the military myself. After that time, I never wanted to feel those levels of discomfort in a hobby again. Short carbine guns and a light setup are the way to go for me.
The only true impression kit i would like to to is a WW2 US 82 Airborne impression , because they liberated my home town during Operation Market Garden , but i would use it for reinactment dont think i'd dare use it for airsoft.
I have dumped a hell of a lot of money into complete World War 1 and 2 kits. One of the most difficult to build is my People's Republic of China WW2 kit, all of which is original aside from a few repairs I had to make to fabric.
I don't unfortunately. Haven't had an opportunity to use it yet, there isn't much demand for Second Sino-Japanese war reenactments in New Zealand and I'm not one for taking photos of myself.
Concerning S.A.S loadout or any other SF units for that matter choose different for every mission as far as I know. This is something organizers ought to be mindful of in my opinion.
Most of my loadouts are based on "Futurizing" existing forces. I have a 2030 Bundeswehr kit. I also, out of sheer boredom, developed a Martian Congressional Republic Navy marine loadout (not the Goliath armored ones.)
Joanna Corvinus once i built a russian merc kit with multicam pants and a ATACS FG combat shirt tan body armour olive green AK chest rig and a opscore helmet
The only con about my outfit is that I can't wear it outside without being charged with hate crimes. I don't see what's the problem with a nazi loadout?
Juice. I don't get why people always call the cops on me when I wear my loadout! It was an Isis vs USA game. I was on Isis and copied the bomb vest loadout. Geez, my neighbors were ready to "Explode" when they saw me hold a full metal GBB ak-47!
Juice. The nice thing about the German army is that there are very few swaitcas (I screw that up, I know) in the uniforms. Only if you are doing political uniforms/body guard would you have a arm band and others
About sizes, it seems to be the opposite for surplus stuff. I run a Soviet Afghan war kit, and you can always find Afghankas in sizes like 46-3 or 60-6, but it took me forever to find a 50-4. (The first number is height and the second is waist/chest size.)
To be fair, Historical loadouts are way more functional instead of contemporary impression loadouts. I'd advise stay away from the special forces type stuff, just start with a basic infantry type impression. Great video, by the way!
I have three primary loadouts. My main rn is US Army circa the late 80s/early 90s. Next is my modern German loadout, and third is my gopnik memelord loadout. I'm also working on a modern Russian loadout, but I can't be bothered to buy the stuff rn lol. I know everyone has a US army loadout, but everyone either has, like, Modern Multicam CoD heroman loudout, a Vietnam kit, or occasionally a WW2 kit. I have NEVER seen an 80s loadout in person, aside from mine, of course. And that really surprises me, because woodland/chocolate chip BDUs are dirt cheap, as is ALICE kit. And I just use an M16A1, with Scarface front end. So l naturally feel like a pretty special snowflake. Too bad it's like wearing an over in the summer lol. Also, I don't wear my US flag patch backwards, like the real Army does. I do plan on going into the Army after I get out of college, but I'm not in there yet, so I'm not doing it. As for the German loadout, I just like being different lol. I've gotten some flack, because I use an AUG, not a G36. Technically, German Spec Ops uses AUG, even though most people don't know that. It's just Flecktarn everything lol. It's all surplus, too. My gopnik loudout is just the woodland pants from my woodland BDUs, a grey sweatshirt, Adidas tracksuit top, balaclava, ushanka, and of course an AK.
Also as someone that was deployed and in the miltray i think it is important to consider that in the military that when it comes to gear we took what was issued if it was required for us to or if my sargent was going to yell at me if i didnt take it and if there was something on the market that worked better then what we issued we would totally use it. I'm just getting into the milsim and if you find something that works and is better then what is issued use it! Like as a wierd example we were issued iso mats i never used it cause i used a sleeping mat i got from a sporting goods place that worked way better then that dumb iso mat.
I do a late 1980s USMC FAST (Hell, you could even call it a DEA or USMS) loadout based off of a photo I caught of FAST in Panama utilizing a Colt SMG. I have a converted VFC Avalon that I've modified into the aforementioned gun. And while I'm all for people running how they want to, I find it a little problematic when people run a kit like a special forces loadout and don't take any liberties to make it comfortable for their using. I mean, as long as you're not slapping on farb to your kit, you shouldn't really have a problem with using period-correct items to make your kit easier to use for you. It sort of defeats the purpose of doing a Special Forces loadout but not wanting to modify it past what you've seen in pictures, you know, considering they're not exactly photogenic. tldr- pet peeve: people dont realize that compromise can exist within reason p.s. Panama FAST guy => scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/89f24ef3d25177eabeccfdd4eb44879e/5CD6EA44/t51.2885-15/e35/27574894_2090632357831478_6061331712409862144_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com&ig_cache_key=MTcwMjEzODcyMDg2NDc4MDc1MA%3D%3D.2
In September I wanted to do a PJ loadout but found it too restrictive because there was a lot of gear I wanted but wouldn't fit the impression. So I dropped the impression and just went my own way lol.
I agree with pretty much everything, I run a CPC and my gear is very similar to a Pararescue man's, except I run my team's camo and my PC is setup how I like it.
Regarding impressions kits, more so for modern/current kits, since much of it is up to operator preference to what they use for the gear or is mission dictated, I've wondered why it is not as acceptable in terms of impression kits to stay in the spirit of what they actually do and build a kit that works for you in the same general parameters that the operators have to work in such as camo patterns or a few select pieces of kit.
Wanted to do Marine Force Recon until I realized I just liked desert MARPAT/ green flightsuits with coyote plate carriers looked cool. Wanted to do Spetsnaz until I realized I just like how a GORKA suit looks. Wanted to do MARSOC until I realized I just liked M81 Woodland. The only impression that Ive been consistently working on has been the support class from Battlefield 4 (which a CIRAS with a bunch of M60 pouches is not the most practical thing for field games) and the only other one Im close to finishing is a black hawk down ranger (tho getting an m16a2 will be a pain). The only impression I could see myself doing in the future is a 1980s VBSS Force Recon loadout, surprisingly easy, its just USGI jungle boots, chocolate chip BDUs and a 1970s airforce survival vest, the only expensive part is the airdeck crew helmet.
Update if anyone was wondering on my battlefield 4 support class setup. Almost done, mostly just the helmet attachments and some auxiliary stuff like VIP lights. However the one thing I have never been able to find for sale anywhere is a Petzl Tactikka XP headlamp, much less one in tan. It doesn’t look like any other headlamp available and I’ve yet to find even a Chinese knockoff of it.
This vid is on point. I at the moment have at least three buffle bags full of gear,enough for 30people, ucp(mostly) multi,flecktarn,and usmc digi. Also uncomon/rarely seen stuff. I love the feel of finding gear at swap meets.
Well, it's about fun and not as much as reenacting, isn't it? As a medieval reenactor I know how things get quite a expensive price for an item you simply NEED to have to be authentic but yet for airsoft I feel it simply is not necessary. Take the gear of most of rebel/insurgent/militia forces as an example. Sustaining yourself while supporting others on the field can really be way easier, simple and probably as effective in much simpler way than carrying whole USMC impersonator gear on your back. Also, we're talking about few days of game at it's maximum, not a whole guns blazing conquest where you actually need shotload of equipment due to manevuers or possible isolation.
I know this is an old video, but one point I think is important that I haven't seen any one say on any other videos. Real people in the actual military can buy and use gear that they have bought on their own. So just because you like a set up that isn't completely made from issues gear, doesn't mean it's now inaccurate, it just means it's inaccurate to the ISSUED gear.
That's why I've decided to not go for impressions but instead go for an OpFor/East European Rebel/ Chechen Militia-direction since there are way too many dudes in Multicam Blufor SF-esque kits or RUSFOR kits and someone has to be the bad guys, you know? All you really need is a Chicom chest rig and an AK and you're good! :P
Technically wearing patches that you did not learn in military service is federally legal. It goes the same for outfits that have name and rink. But I'm not a veteran I think it's ok on the airsoft field myself
Chinese PLA kits are actually decently cheap, cheaper than a russian kit. You have to shop on Taobao, only thing that is difficult to find is a Type 97, I was lucky enough to get a type 97b. Could do Chinese PAP and use a basic M4 as photos of them using basic AR's have been seen.
I'm in the us army but for airsoft go for army ranger impression i don't wear the patchs cause i find it disrespectful cause i didn't earn them. I don't look down if someone who does. i only have a problem if said person tries the clam they earned them when the haven't i view it as stolen Valor. i do wear patches i wear what i have earned if i decide to wear patches.
a friend of mine want me to start airsofting and as i already got my paintball gear so my style is dark camo pants (south african railway police) and gray ore desert shirt and if its cold a heavy used distressed black old hoodie so i guess my style lies more to the desert/mercenery/post apocalyptic i think.
i do Siege cosplay and only recently i got into airsoft.. so i pretty much got everything close in terms of looks. Still skeptical about its performance on the site
My unit reenacts gulf war and earlier 82nd airborne living history and static displays. We wear patches, especially for the events with big veteran turnouts. We square away perfectly and they always appreciate it and feel honored. Patches really depend on what you're doing. Don't wear them out to McDonalds and don't have a trash uniform, it just looks disrespectful. I was in the military, but not the 82nd, I just represent it in a way that does them justice. Also, I look 20 years too young to have served in the conflicts we reenact (I'm in my 20s)
My thoughts on the patches you were taking about. I'm a veteran from a very proud unit and when it comes to airsoft I don't wear any of my old units patches in my airsoft gear. But I have seen some players wear the unit patch. It's a coin toss I think. If your wearing you problem think the unit is cool and that's why you got it. If a vet ask you why are you wearing that tell him. But if you upset a veteran by wearing it than be respectful and take it off. Death from Above
Can you make a video about military/sf veterans playing airsoft? I wonder what they think about it and how they see other players. Greetings from polandball.
I’m former navy, played with several other sailors back in VA, and the field we played on had members from all branches plus the coast guard and LEOs. We’d steam roll some CoDsofters then 5minutes later get rekt by legit SEALs. As long as you don’t take the game too seriously most veterans are indifferent, but if you’re rolling a spot on SEAL impression and walking into a quiktrip for a monster they’ll probably make fun of you.
john p.jones some guys in my platoon (Army Caisson) just started playing around VA, Ballahack has like every branch there makes for some really fun games
See, I dont do full, exact impression kits. I do loosey goosey impression kits. It looks the part and is as accurate as possible, but only had what I need. Also, I think the impression community is toxic as fuck. If you don't have real stuff, they look down on you. My kit is a mid 80s US Army Infantryman. The ALICE gear apart from the belt is original surplus. The woodland top is Croatian, but it's a direct copy of the US BDUs so I don't care. The pants are civilian. The helmet and cover are repro. I just tell people that I don't want it to be 100% accurate, and it never will be. Because I'm just not enough of a loser to dump 1000+ into it. I do it because it's fun, and it looks cool. Airsoft is basically just a fashion show where we shoot at each other.
Maybe this is because I was blue water navy, but basically as long as you’re not claiming to be or have been in unit you, when you never were uniform, patches whatever.It’s a tribute to that unit. Didn’t earn it, don’t claim it.If you’re doing a real good SEAL load out good for you. Personally because I had the opportunity to be some of those guys if I wanted I just prefer to go with African bush war merc/PMC style type look...or at least that’s how I fancy it lol
If the current US army and navy went back to the height of the Roman Empire, with enough fuel, rations, and munition to Kee things running for a while, how long do you think it’d take for them to conquer the entire world? How many casualties could we expect?
Patches:........Would it be the same argument if we used US and you use UK insignia. It introduces fresh argument. But, as you say, there are alternatives. Using morale patches and mock military offers more than enough. Having said that I was questioned on my first game by a Royal Marine due to my surplus UBACS with full colours. The clothing comes from the municipal tip, the lads at the barracks next door bin loads every week (location my secret!) Either way the Commando took me under his wing and taught me incredible stuff. (reckon he took pity on the elderly retiree with the lost look!!)
Well there is a field fairly near me that has WW2 days, I really want to build a kit for that, also I have a general interest in war history, so it would float 2 balls for me at the same time.
impression load out…my real world gear that i wear everyday…real ballistc plates, rewal ballistic helmet, train like its real ...scaring the wife…old vet. Seal kit=playing in a black wetsuit with goggles and scubba tank/was very hot and hated it.
Wanted to do MARSOC inpression, fell off the train just at the moment I bought 6094 in multicam..I saw just few guys running those.. And when they were running them the ran coyote brown.. 😂😂
I'm in the same boat Eric. I love looking to shots of active military for inspiration on gear layout and how they run things, but unless the event calls for an impression, I hate having my options limited to such a drastic degree. That and, if I'm going to be buying legit gear, it better double for use with real firearms on my part as well. Though maybe that's just me pinching pennies.
I run a us army impression, is it the most practical? no the helmet weighs a ton along with the armor, which is hot here in florida, but then again if i just cared about effectiveness i would run an aeg with high caps and no chest rig or anything... so i find impressions to be just fun....
Real SF operators use their gear to accommodate what they feel is most convenient. Like number of mag pouches, how many pouches they have. Real SF guys also try to keep their plate carriers as light as possible. As long as someone uses the right camo, and same companies in the the actual SF gear list then you're fine.
Only Military uniforms that are "serialized".i.e. actual MILITARY use, the military can sell serialized gear to the different polices but they can pretty much whatever they find/buy, in fact 5.11 it's a top seller
I think it's perfectly fine as long as you're doing it as a cosplay replica Soldier theme and not trying to play like you are an actual veteran. When I play I use current Army ACU uniforms.
I mean with the whole patch debate I don't see why you can't wear like a rangers tab with your impression kit as long as your not claiming the ranger title but at the sams time I can understand why a ranger would be pissed to see u wearing a ranger tab it's something they earned and had brothers die for its not unreasonable but I'd say just like if your going to do it make sure it's in like the celebration fashion yk like your celebrating this elite warrior unit and there accomplishments and sacrifice to out nation cuz like if your just wearing a unit patch for ur weekend skirmish I could see why it would piss a veteran off
I like loose impressions. I purposefully don't do exact impressions, because almost every pic of every soldier is of that one particular soldier and his/her needs in that specific operation. I look at the standard issue gear, and wear as much of that as I need for airsoft. For example, I run a US Army Infantry Rifleman Circa 1989/90 impression kit. I have more or less everything, except the PASGT vest. Because that's a shitload of weight and a lot of heat for pretty much no advantage in airsoft. Yeah, I'll pass on that. Call me a poser or whatever. I'll be laughing when you have a heatstroke and I don't lol. Also, those people who get pissy at you for buying from greyshop are just losers lol.
I started off my airsoft "career" building up a Vietnam impression, which spiraled waaay out of control. I had tons of fun doing the research and building the kits, but I always struggled at games and OPs, since my Vietnam equipment is all I ever had.
It took me longer than I'm proud to admit to realize that running a historical kit at an everyday pickup game or a modern themed OP meant I was putting myself at a disadvantage for aesthetics. I was slower, heavier, less comfortable, and less effective than almost everyone else - but I wasn't about to sacrifice the authenticity of the impression I'd spent months researching and thousand of dollars building for airsoft's sake.
I ended up separating my historical impressions from airsoft and I've done blank fire reenacting for the past few years. Now that I'm finally getting back into the game, I'm forcing myself to remember how miserable I was before so I don't relapse and start doing an impression as my main and only loadout again.
Dude SAME. I started a US Army Combat Engineer circa ~1989/1990 loadout. It's quite a bit cheaper than a 'nam loadout, but it's just so difficult to get the right gear, especially in a normal size. I swear I've seen a thousand SM/XS PSGT vest for every one L/XL PSGT vest. I just fucking gave up on making it accurate, and stripped it WAY the hell down. And I still move like a tank! I usually swap it out for a Gopnik/Insugent loadout. Adidas top, BDU bottoms, flecktarn chest rig, bundeswehr field cap, AK47. Is it accurate to anything, ever? No. Do I move fast as fuck on the field? Yup! Am I incredibly effective? Well, no, cuz I suck. But if I didn't, I would be!
small brain: navy seal impression 2010 era
cosmic brain: navy seal impression 1968
rush the field with a good old Stoner M63
Most evolved brain: navy seal impression 1776
Universe Brain - Spetsnaz 1949 Kit
Aesthetic Deluxe supreme overlord brain SAS loadout 1023
Rush the commies with blue jeans and tiger stripe, Giga Chad level
Some guys probably know this, but, most don't, in countries such as Russia, Belarus and Ukraine that is the only way to play airsoft, 95% of all teams do an impersonation of some unit, e.i. DEA quick response unit, Nicaraguan piranhas, taliban and etc. They take it very seriously, people or teams that don't do impersonation are called "pokemons"))) thats why manufacturer companies like G&G, ICS and Krytak and many others are not popular for having wrong markings on the gun. Oh and one more thing, they call airsoft-strikeball. Little fun fact about airsoft in other countries)))) anywho, love your channel, very positive, tons of interesting content and info. Regards from Turkey via Azerbaijan))))
totiksilkway Do they have people in Russia (mainly people from the caucuses) dress in their traditional costumes (cherkesska, papakha, gaziri etc.) and play like that in a team of some sort? As I’m a circassian from the shapsug tribe (living in America though) and have always been curious about people airsofting like that.
Ive never heard of pokemons being looked down on though. A ton of Russian youtubers use non specific loadouts.
honestly it's way better than here.
here in italy it's rare that someone would do impression kits and who does it usually looked down for it or it's straight up called an inept dumbfuck
ive heard of guys in the military blaming airsofters and the civilian gun owner community at large for increased demand/back stock on certain items (plate carriers, camo clothes, boots). Ive always thought that was an issue with the manufacturer and not the consumer because they usually have separate sales lines for military/leo and civilian markets. if by chance they manufacturer doesn't then its not our fault or problem.
This is America. We're supposed to have military hardware, and our military should know that best.
Military guys don't seem the brightest. Increase in market demand causes higher production volumes thus lowering the price for production. Everyone benefits.
@@SpectreDM And America is capitalist. If civilians and military are buying up military gear, the manufactures better step up their game on production. Classic supply and demand
And i think it is also important to keep in mind that some civilian stuff you can buy is better then what i was issued in the military
My main impression kits are a Chechen War Spetsnaz kit, and a Desert Storm 82nd Airborne kit. Nobody else in my area has either of those.
i normally just try to look like a contractor, i like the overly casual look and they are pretty easy to do.
Yeah pretty easy to do a contractor because there is no standard
The problem with impressions is you end up bogged down with gear you don't actually need. I go for what a) works well for me and b) looks cool.
This was problematic for me when I built a Vietnam War kit for a themed game at my local field. I started the day with belt and suspenders, 3 ammo pouches, 2 canteens, butt pack with spare clothes, E-tool, bandolier, M1 helmet... and slowly shed things from my belt as the day went on. By the end of the day, there was a pile of stuff at our designated FOB that was basically everything I had ditched from my kit, and all I had on my belt was two ammo pouches and the canteens.
I'll never ever go reenactment, cosplay route again, for that exact reason. I want something that can play airsoft well. That's all I need. I don't wanna cosplay some military unit. I once tried doing a early 90s US solider with Alice Belt PASGT armor and helmet. It sucked. I was so uncomfortable. This was before I was in the military myself. After that time, I never wanted to feel those levels of discomfort in a hobby again. Short carbine guns and a light setup are the way to go for me.
The only true impression kit i would like to to is a WW2 US 82 Airborne impression , because they liberated my home town during Operation Market Garden , but i would use it for reinactment dont think i'd dare use it for airsoft.
Personally I prefer when people do impressions, even if they are bad, rather than people using MultiCam and AR type Rifles.
I have dumped a hell of a lot of money into complete World War 1 and 2 kits. One of the most difficult to build is my People's Republic of China WW2 kit, all of which is original aside from a few repairs I had to make to fabric.
I don't unfortunately. Haven't had an opportunity to use it yet, there isn't much demand for Second Sino-Japanese war reenactments in New Zealand and I'm not one for taking photos of myself.
Concerning S.A.S loadout or any other SF units for that matter choose different for every mission as far as I know. This is something organizers ought to be mindful of in my opinion.
East German kits are amazing. Strichtarn for life.
Most of my loadouts are based on "Futurizing" existing forces. I have a 2030 Bundeswehr kit. I also, out of sheer boredom, developed a Martian Congressional Republic Navy marine loadout (not the Goliath armored ones.)
Joanna Corvinus once i built a russian merc kit with multicam pants and a ATACS FG combat shirt tan body armour olive green AK chest rig and a opscore helmet
The only con about my outfit is that I can't wear it outside without being charged with hate crimes. I don't see what's the problem with a nazi loadout?
Juice. I don't get why people always call the cops on me when I wear my loadout! It was an Isis vs USA game. I was on Isis and copied the bomb vest loadout. Geez, my neighbors were ready to "Explode" when they saw me hold a full metal GBB ak-47!
Yeah I feel you man. I do both Ww2 ranger and Luftwaffe Fallschirmjäger. I'm always paranoid someone is going to say something about the swaztikas
Juice. The nice thing about the German army is that there are very few swaitcas (I screw that up, I know) in the uniforms. Only if you are doing political uniforms/body guard would you have a arm band and others
Juice. What do people say about your German loadout? I'm an SS reenactor and wanna use it for airsoft but idk if sites would allow it or not
Juice. Building a PanzerGren loadout. Expensive hobby. People are just jealous that you got it done
About sizes, it seems to be the opposite for surplus stuff. I run a Soviet Afghan war kit, and you can always find Afghankas in sizes like 46-3 or 60-6, but it took me forever to find a 50-4. (The first number is height and the second is waist/chest size.)
To be fair, Historical loadouts are way more functional instead of contemporary impression loadouts. I'd advise stay away from the special forces type stuff, just start with a basic infantry type impression. Great video, by the way!
It's 12 o'clock at night and I'm watching gun gamers. 😞 what am I doing with my life. But gun gamers are sooooo good.
yo same
I just really like the realism and feeling badass for once!
I have three primary loadouts. My main rn is US Army circa the late 80s/early 90s. Next is my modern German loadout, and third is my gopnik memelord loadout. I'm also working on a modern Russian loadout, but I can't be bothered to buy the stuff rn lol. I know everyone has a US army loadout, but everyone either has, like, Modern Multicam CoD heroman loudout, a Vietnam kit, or occasionally a WW2 kit. I have NEVER seen an 80s loadout in person, aside from mine, of course. And that really surprises me, because woodland/chocolate chip BDUs are dirt cheap, as is ALICE kit. And I just use an M16A1, with Scarface front end. So l naturally feel like a pretty special snowflake. Too bad it's like wearing an over in the summer lol. Also, I don't wear my US flag patch backwards, like the real Army does. I do plan on going into the Army after I get out of college, but I'm not in there yet, so I'm not doing it. As for the German loadout, I just like being different lol. I've gotten some flack, because I use an AUG, not a G36. Technically, German Spec Ops uses AUG, even though most people don't know that. It's just Flecktarn everything lol. It's all surplus, too. My gopnik loudout is just the woodland pants from my woodland BDUs, a grey sweatshirt, Adidas tracksuit top, balaclava, ushanka, and of course an AK.
For patches? Don’t wear them on a current uniform. WW2? Nam? Go for it....
In that case I run an actual impression because I run real Alice gear and gentex pasgt Kevlar helmets
I'm running a budget impression kit
Same here
Also as someone that was deployed and in the miltray i think it is important to consider that in the military that when it comes to gear we took what was issued if it was required for us to or if my sargent was going to yell at me if i didnt take it and if there was something on the market that worked better then what we issued we would totally use it. I'm just getting into the milsim and if you find something that works and is better then what is issued use it! Like as a wierd example we were issued iso mats i never used it cause i used a sleeping mat i got from a sporting goods place that worked way better then that dumb iso mat.
Great video. You're explanation on why the R hops and flat hops work using the speed bump vs ramp metaphor was excellent.
Damn the timing on this one is perfect, I was thinking about getting a swat style loadout just yesterday!
I do a late 1980s USMC FAST (Hell, you could even call it a DEA or USMS) loadout based off of a photo I caught of FAST in Panama utilizing a Colt SMG.
I have a converted VFC Avalon that I've modified into the aforementioned gun.
And while I'm all for people running how they want to, I find it a little problematic when people run a kit like a special forces loadout and don't take any liberties to make it comfortable for their using.
I mean, as long as you're not slapping on farb to your kit, you shouldn't really have a problem with using period-correct items to make your kit easier to use for you.
It sort of defeats the purpose of doing a Special Forces loadout but not wanting to modify it past what you've seen in pictures, you know, considering they're not exactly photogenic.
tldr- pet peeve: people dont realize that compromise can exist within reason
p.s. Panama FAST guy => scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/89f24ef3d25177eabeccfdd4eb44879e/5CD6EA44/t51.2885-15/e35/27574894_2090632357831478_6061331712409862144_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com&ig_cache_key=MTcwMjEzODcyMDg2NDc4MDc1MA%3D%3D.2
"U might end up selling a kidney or two. Or even both" bruh wat? Lol
Don’t think too hard.
Yeah he’s serious. I have no kidneys right now.
I play with the rushing Russians on weekend games they are pretty cool people
its one reason i really like doing a " fallout or post apoc" style kit its fun to build and hunt for.
Imagine making a special forces impression kit, this was brought to you by the I only do impression kits for normal infantryman gang
In September I wanted to do a PJ loadout but found it too restrictive because there was a lot of gear I wanted but wouldn't fit the impression. So I dropped the impression and just went my own way lol.
I agree with pretty much everything, I run a CPC and my gear is very similar to a Pararescue man's, except I run my team's camo and my PC is setup how I like it.
Regarding impressions kits, more so for modern/current kits, since much of it is up to operator preference to what they use for the gear or is mission dictated, I've wondered why it is not as acceptable in terms of impression kits to stay in the spirit of what they actually do and build a kit that works for you in the same general parameters that the operators have to work in such as camo patterns or a few select pieces of kit.
I havent even watched it yet im just happy to see EHouse 😁
8:55 unless you make a 2006-2008 (or 2009 stateside) Ranger impression where you can get and entire ACU set for like $40-50
Wanted to do Marine Force Recon until I realized I just liked desert MARPAT/ green flightsuits with coyote plate carriers looked cool. Wanted to do Spetsnaz until I realized I just like how a GORKA suit looks. Wanted to do MARSOC until I realized I just liked M81 Woodland. The only impression that Ive been consistently working on has been the support class from Battlefield 4 (which a CIRAS with a bunch of M60 pouches is not the most practical thing for field games) and the only other one Im close to finishing is a black hawk down ranger (tho getting an m16a2 will be a pain). The only impression I could see myself doing in the future is a 1980s VBSS Force Recon loadout, surprisingly easy, its just USGI jungle boots, chocolate chip BDUs and a 1970s airforce survival vest, the only expensive part is the airdeck crew helmet.
Update if anyone was wondering on my battlefield 4 support class setup. Almost done, mostly just the helmet attachments and some auxiliary stuff like VIP lights. However the one thing I have never been able to find for sale anywhere is a Petzl Tactikka XP headlamp, much less one in tan. It doesn’t look like any other headlamp available and I’ve yet to find even a Chinese knockoff of it.
This vid is on point. I at the moment have at least three buffle bags full of gear,enough for 30people, ucp(mostly) multi,flecktarn,and usmc digi. Also uncomon/rarely seen stuff. I love the feel of finding gear at swap meets.
Well, it's about fun and not as much as reenacting, isn't it? As a medieval reenactor I know how things get quite a expensive price for an item you simply NEED to have to be authentic but yet for airsoft I feel it simply is not necessary. Take the gear of most of rebel/insurgent/militia forces as an example. Sustaining yourself while supporting others on the field can really be way easier, simple and probably as effective in much simpler way than carrying whole USMC impersonator gear on your back. Also, we're talking about few days of game at it's maximum, not a whole guns blazing conquest where you actually need shotload of equipment due to manevuers or possible isolation.
Finding exactly what I need is the best thing
I know this is an old video, but one point I think is important that I haven't seen any one say on any other videos. Real people in the actual military can buy and use gear that they have bought on their own. So just because you like a set up that isn't completely made from issues gear, doesn't mean it's now inaccurate, it just means it's inaccurate to the ISSUED gear.
That's why I've decided to not go for impressions but instead go for an OpFor/East European Rebel/ Chechen Militia-direction since there are way too many dudes in Multicam Blufor SF-esque kits or RUSFOR kits and someone has to be the bad guys, you know? All you really need is a Chicom chest rig and an AK and you're good! :P
Leo Sjöberg There’s very little Russian impressions in all of airsoft
Im the only one at my field with a british kit
Technically wearing patches that you did not learn in military service is federally legal. It goes the same for outfits that have name and rink. But I'm not a veteran I think it's ok on the airsoft field myself
Currently doing an impression on Finnish Special Jaegers
Yypee I wanna put an impression together as a cola Corp solidier from the book soda pop solidier
I’m doing both, mostly impression since the only thing that protects me is my ess crossbow and my mesh mask
Just wear whatever you want and run a USEC or BEAR patch and say you're a private military contractor.
Being told a unit doesn’t wear a certain piece of kit by an impressionist who does know you’re in that unit is pretty fun
I can respect a properly designed impression, some look really good. But for me i would rather put something together that works for how i play.
Chinese PLA kits are actually decently cheap, cheaper than a russian kit. You have to shop on Taobao, only thing that is difficult to find is a Type 97, I was lucky enough to get a type 97b. Could do Chinese PAP and use a basic M4 as photos of them using basic AR's have been seen.
I'm in the us army but for airsoft go for army ranger impression i don't wear the patchs cause i find it disrespectful cause i didn't earn them. I don't look down if someone who does. i only have a problem if said person tries the clam they earned them when the haven't i view it as stolen Valor. i do wear patches i wear what i have earned if i decide to wear patches.
Cag fits my needs perfectly
I use my Alice gear for the last 9 years, no wear and tear whatsoever
Dude you got this so spot on
a friend of mine want me to start airsofting and as i already got my paintball gear so my style is dark camo pants (south african railway police) and gray ore desert shirt and if its cold a heavy used distressed black old hoodie so i guess my style lies more to the desert/mercenery/post apocalyptic i think.
i do Siege cosplay and only recently i got into airsoft.. so i pretty much got everything close in terms of looks.
Still skeptical about its performance on the site
If only past Eric knew what future Eric was going to do, he'd be very upset with himself
Someday I am getting a Rhodesian bush war impression kit lol
My unit reenacts gulf war and earlier 82nd airborne living history and static displays. We wear patches, especially for the events with big veteran turnouts. We square away perfectly and they always appreciate it and feel honored. Patches really depend on what you're doing. Don't wear them out to McDonalds and don't have a trash uniform, it just looks disrespectful. I was in the military, but not the 82nd, I just represent it in a way that does them justice. Also, I look 20 years too young to have served in the conflicts we reenact (I'm in my 20s)
My thoughts on the patches you were taking about. I'm a veteran from a very proud unit and when it comes to airsoft I don't wear any of my old units patches in my airsoft gear. But I have seen some players wear the unit patch. It's a coin toss I think. If your wearing you problem think the unit is cool and that's why you got it. If a vet ask you why are you wearing that tell him. But if you upset a veteran by wearing it than be respectful and take it off.
Death from Above
Never heard anyone do a Lithuanian special forces loadout, it would be quite interesting to try it
Can you make a video about
military/sf veterans playing airsoft? I wonder what they think about it and how they see other players. Greetings from polandball.
gattling9 I think we could get some of our vets to put together a video like that.
I’m former navy, played with several other sailors back in VA, and the field we played on had members from all branches plus the coast guard and LEOs.
We’d steam roll some CoDsofters then 5minutes later get rekt by legit SEALs.
As long as you don’t take the game too seriously most veterans are indifferent, but if you’re rolling a spot on SEAL impression and walking into a quiktrip for a monster they’ll probably make fun of you.
john p.jones some guys in my platoon (Army Caisson) just started playing around VA, Ballahack has like every branch there makes for some really fun games
I got full russian interior ministry and internal affairs troops I love the look
So basically the best impression is cag, jpc and g3 with maritimes. Works perfectly!
See, I dont do full, exact impression kits. I do loosey goosey impression kits. It looks the part and is as accurate as possible, but only had what I need. Also, I think the impression community is toxic as fuck. If you don't have real stuff, they look down on you. My kit is a mid 80s US Army Infantryman. The ALICE gear apart from the belt is original surplus. The woodland top is Croatian, but it's a direct copy of the US BDUs so I don't care. The pants are civilian. The helmet and cover are repro. I just tell people that I don't want it to be 100% accurate, and it never will be. Because I'm just not enough of a loser to dump 1000+ into it. I do it because it's fun, and it looks cool. Airsoft is basically just a fashion show where we shoot at each other.
Maybe this is because I was blue water navy, but basically as long as you’re not claiming to be or have been in unit you, when you never were uniform, patches whatever.It’s a tribute to that unit.
Didn’t earn it, don’t claim it.If you’re doing a real good SEAL load out good for you.
Personally because I had the opportunity to be some of those guys if I wanted I just prefer to go with African bush war merc/PMC style type look...or at least that’s how I fancy it lol
I just run a Rhodesian patch on my plate carrier, I'm bad to the bone like George Thorougood
If the current US army and navy went back to the height of the Roman Empire, with enough fuel, rations, and munition to Kee things running for a while, how long do you think it’d take for them to conquer the entire world? How many casualties could we expect?
The only patches I wear are morale or event patches.
Thats funny how expensive woodland crye is. i found some second hand woodland crye at my local army surplus store for $50 dollars
Patches:........Would it be the same argument if we used US and you use UK insignia. It introduces fresh argument. But, as you say, there are alternatives. Using morale patches and mock military offers more than enough. Having said that I was questioned on my first game by a Royal Marine due to my surplus UBACS with full colours. The clothing comes from the municipal tip, the lads at the barracks next door bin loads every week (location my secret!) Either way the Commando took me under his wing and taught me incredible stuff. (reckon he took pity on the elderly retiree with the lost look!!)
I tried counting the number of times this guy said "fun" and I lost track after about four minutes lol
Well there is a field fairly near me that has WW2 days, I really want to build a kit for that, also I have a general interest in war history, so it would float 2 balls for me at the same time.
ChePennyDK look there ATTHEFRONT.COM i do ww2 re enacting in quebec canada its so amazing
You're just mad that your kit is farb Eric
Crye is farb, real marsucc use SEMAPO GEAR
nah fam marsoc uses tmc
For patches I just use my team patch and my friend's company patch
impression load out…my real world gear that i wear everyday…real ballistc plates, rewal ballistic helmet, train like its real ...scaring the wife…old vet. Seal kit=playing in a black wetsuit with goggles and scubba tank/was very hot and hated it.
Great video, making myself a DHS kit atm, damn hard to find a tac commando sweater in navy blue. (Below $200)
DHS ?
Department of Homeland Security
ok .. sounds like a really cool loadout
I just bought a leaf suit and a two pouch tactical belt...........
Wanted to do MARSOC inpression, fell off the train just at the moment I bought 6094 in multicam..I saw just few guys running those.. And when they were running them the ran coyote brown.. 😂😂
me and 3 other people in my gorup want to join the USMC so for airsoft we are thinking to make look a like kits
I'm in the same boat Eric. I love looking to shots of active military for inspiration on gear layout and how they run things, but unless the event calls for an impression, I hate having my options limited to such a drastic degree. That and, if I'm going to be buying legit gear, it better double for use with real firearms on my part as well. Though maybe that's just me pinching pennies.
Great video 🖒
I run a us army impression, is it the most practical? no the helmet weighs a ton along with the armor, which is hot here in florida, but then again if i just cared about effectiveness i would run an aeg with high caps and no chest rig or anything... so i find impressions to be just fun....
You actually run plates? Nice.
I have my own set that I got for just in case i was planning to run this spring when i start back up
well i dont have plates unfortunately, but I the us army iotv that i bought came with soft armor inserts which i do wear
Dude, just stumbled on ur comment, that sounds really epic. Have you ever considered an Imperial Japanese Impression. They are pretty great tbh
woah bud crye's can go for around 150-170ish, not worth a kidney lol
I built a british army loadut u can buy cheap real british army MTP pants and UBAC and osprey for $200 and a replica mk6
Real SF operators use their gear to accommodate what they feel is most convenient. Like number of mag pouches, how many pouches they have. Real SF guys also try to keep their plate carriers as light as possible. As long as someone uses the right camo, and same companies in the the actual SF gear list then you're fine.
False. There are always SOPs and teams get issued certain carriers. Lately, it's been the JPC. Yes, how they set it up is on them, but there are SOPs
I've tried to do Russian interior ministry during chechnya wars and also kosovo serb police during Kosovo war of 2008
I've been trying to create a Mexican marine impression kit but it's super hard to find the camo
Military/police uniforms are illegal to sell in Mexico because of fears criminals will use them to impersonate them
The BB Warrior yeah that sucks I like your channel bro
Thanks man! 👊
Only Military uniforms that are "serialized".i.e. actual MILITARY use, the military can sell serialized gear to the different polices but they can pretty much whatever they find/buy, in fact 5.11 it's a top seller
I think it's perfectly fine as long as you're doing it as a cosplay replica Soldier theme and not trying to play like you are an actual veteran.
When I play I use current Army ACU uniforms.
Lol I just got into airsoft. I made an ISIS load out and it was all hella cheap... except for the GHK AKM I got to go with it
I mean with the whole patch debate I don't see why you can't wear like a rangers tab with your impression kit as long as your not claiming the ranger title but at the sams time I can understand why a ranger would be pissed to see u wearing a ranger tab it's something they earned and had brothers die for its not unreasonable but I'd say just like if your going to do it make sure it's in like the celebration fashion yk like your celebrating this elite warrior unit and there accomplishments and sacrifice to out nation cuz like if your just wearing a unit patch for ur weekend skirmish I could see why it would piss a veteran off
I’m currently building a modern cag kit very easy just have to do your research and don’t fuck it up
Knowledge
E house is my nigga i prefer the videos with him
Can I get some szechuan sauce for this 6 piece chicken McNobody? Go back to leaving cringey Facebook posts on your cousin's swimsuit pictures.
I had to go back to the original comment to see if that was e house insulting him and making a typo or stating his actual name xD
Nick Haker same dude
Well i do ww1 french, ww2 german, 1960s congo mercenary and soviet afghan war impession, i am allways unique snow flake with my group
I like loose impressions. I purposefully don't do exact impressions, because almost every pic of every soldier is of that one particular soldier and his/her needs in that specific operation. I look at the standard issue gear, and wear as much of that as I need for airsoft. For example, I run a US Army Infantry Rifleman Circa 1989/90 impression kit. I have more or less everything, except the PASGT vest. Because that's a shitload of weight and a lot of heat for pretty much no advantage in airsoft. Yeah, I'll pass on that. Call me a poser or whatever. I'll be laughing when you have a heatstroke and I don't lol.
Also, those people who get pissy at you for buying from greyshop are just losers lol.
Here's a question, I've noticed no one really wears ranks. Do you think something like Sergeant stripes are poor taste?
I tend to just draw the line at awards, like medals.
Shit, calm down mate! Yeah it's bad to do that but woah! Talk about overkill
as long as the patch stay in the airsoft field.
fun fact about italian camouflage: it's actually useless if you play in italy, you're going to stand out like a golden bar on a green carpet
please send me to the Grom group/ polish impression group Very interested now.
Tanks!
A kidney or 2 or all. But you only got 2...
surplus shop???????????????????? im down