THE TOP JAZZ DRUMMERS OF ALL TIME? OK! (forgot Shelly!)
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- I can’t remember everybody off the top of my head, so please add those I’ve missed as I’m sure you will! Ha ha
tony elvin art roy jack shadow billy kewku regggie jeff tain bill stewart paul kenny clarence SHELLY MANNE! al mickey tootie billy lenny mark yusef sonship kenny carl lewis billy cindy milford susie paul steve kush paul billy buddy gene philly jo kenny bernard vinnie zig 
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I wish you did more videos, your excitement always leads me to more learning and listening. Thanks Ken.
I love this post! Learning a lot from this Ken!!!
Another great video! Thanks, Ken.
Wow Ken; I love drums but I never thought I would be so captivated for half hour. Thanks mate.
Brilliant video Ken! Interesting and informative as always 🙌
Ken I enjoyed your guide to the best drummers.
I if could give a few artists to listen, as I said before I'm just getting into Jazz ( late of getting into jazz I'm 65.).
Thanks for all your recommendations.
Lenny White's phrasing and ideas are so fresh. Always!!! He has EARS!
I will admit that this was the most comprehensive drumming overview. You covered all genres and their greatest contributors. WOW. Great episode. Perhaps I can add one to this fabulous list. NRBQ had a drummer by the name of Tom Ardolino who had a beautiful percussive style and brought it to the varied set list that NRBQ played. The same set you could hear Bye Ya. And Rocket in my pocket.
Great band. Didn’t they have a hit song about an airplane?
They covered Sun Ra’s Rocket Number Nine. Get that Gasoline Blues was the closest tune to a hit.
Great video ken love the drums
Love this video, thanks!!! Hearing you recognizing your lack of swing makes me remember me giving up the guitar for the same reasons, I saw no enough talent in me. Prevented me from living a resentful life. Vinnie Colaiuta and Tony Williams are my favorites
Thanks Ken Nice Drum 🥁 information, you took them all.
Great video Ken, very amusing and full of knowledge.... I would add Jim White , the Dirty Three drummer, to that list
Wow....great video on drums....love it Ken....my favorite Art Talyor and Kenny Clark and Roy Haynes....❤❤
I don't know how you do it Ken. There are days I have difficulties remembering my own name.
Always enjoy your work. 😎
I was lucky to catch a Jack DeJohnette solo concert back in '81. There were maybe fifty people present, in a small university concert venue. Jack alternated between drum and solo piano pieces. It was absolutely mesmerizing.
Great video and very informative about some great drummers of the rock and jazz scene Don’t agree with you quitting your drumming because you weren’t great!
I’m not a drummer, but if I see a record with Joe Chambers name on it, I assume it’s gonna be good. Also he’s a great composer, Mirrors is one of my favorite tunes
Charli Persip is rarely mentioned, but boy could that man swing!
I remember being in the village Vanguard one night when Paul motion was playing with Chet Baker and he was pounding on the drums. Chet stopped playing and started screaming at Motion and told him if he couldn’t play properly with him to get the hell out of the Vanguard now.
I think he was actually out of control at the end. But no one stopped him because he was Paul Motian
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 Oh Chet put it to him hard that night. Motian picked up a pair of brushes and that’s all he used for the rest of the evening and was real quiet.
Max had a table ready for my cousin and his girlfriend and me and my future wife. The table was right in front of where Chet sat in the chair and pointed his horn down between his legs and his playing just sucked me in. I couldn’t have been more than 5 feet away from Chet and face-to-face with him.
Hey Ken, i noticed you voiced a bit of concern? America will be OK. Keep up the good work!🤙
I guess you'll release a part 2 to discuss your second and third picks? I'll look forward to that video -- your stream of consciousness take yielded some beautiful info. Thanks. (Maybe consider Joe Chambers for your next take.)
Second and third pics? I think I covered absolutely everyone I have any interest in. Of course people will always say oh you miss this and you miss that but these were my choices I would put in my video. Not someone elses
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 sorry, I was misunderstood: *your* second and third pics are TW & AB, but you didn't mention them during your video.
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 sorry, that's "picks," not pics.
Hi Ken. I just want to say that I love all your videos. I want you to know I purchased Nicholas Krolak’s Album Voice is power after hearing about it from your channel. I liked so much I ordered his first Album River Song. He can get enough attention he will certainly go places 😮
Excellent. Thanks.
Neil Schonn (Santana), Mikey Hart (Solo and Grateful Dead), Ginger Baker (Cream, Airforce,), Leon Helm (The Band)
Neil Schonn. Do you mean Michael Shreve or Graham Lear?
Levon was soulful as hell!
Great choices, Ken. Thanks you!
My additions: As to Rock, Neil Peart of Rush.
As to Jazz, young Anthony, advanced Tony Williams.
I’m going to do a separate Tony Williams video
Great video Ken! Here`s another one I know you like: Clive Bunker. And I guess Bill Bruford should be on the list.
I also really like Louie Bellson (with Duke or Basie on Pablo for example)!
major oversights! Thanks
Great video, Ken. And lots of great calls. I do have to disagree with your claims about Charlie though; not least because Honky Tonk Women was a good 2 years before Sticky Fingers. Being an ex-drummer, you surely have a more informed opinion than me but I also think there are loads of examples of really great, unusual patterns going back to '65 at least.
Two years? Wow. I got that wrong.
For a minute I thought you were going leave Roy Haynes out!
You mentioned most of my faves, including Copeland who I thought was the most exciting drummer on the planet in the early 80's.
Any thoughts on Joe Morello, Ken?
Despite the resurgence of jazz on vinyl, Brubecks music seems to get barely any attention in the VC (apart from the occasional mention of "Time Out".) If anything Paul Desmond has more cache these days, because of his CTI records.
Call Desmond was brilliant. I believe he actually wrote take five. The compared to the other music being made at the time Brubeck to me was rather sterile. Joe Morello was a good drummer, but again sort of pale compared to the other greats of the era. Who wouldn’t?
Ringo was the cosummate musician. He was already pro before playing with the Beatles.
Jim Gordon had incredible solid, solid time! and conviction...
Philly was a master of accenting the rudiments and utilizing Buddy Rich licks but with his own unpredictable phrasing and surprises. He rehearsed the Buddy Rich band as well. Philly was a swingaholic.
@@ALCDNY Butlins!
I know Mickey Roker from Live at the Lighthous w/ Lee Morgan. Very strong person. I will check him out more closely with Turrentine and others.
Great, almost stream of consciousness, Ken. Remarkable.
Han Bennink, yes! Bennink was my gateway drug to really appreciating free drumming.
It was and he is
I had the pleasure of seeing Zoh Amba with Chris Corsano. Unbelievable! He reminded me of Bennink.
so many!! Besides the glaring, but I understand intentional omissions (Tony, Max, Blakey) I'd like to bring up some personal faves u didn't mention here (I think): Chico Hamilton; Ed Blackwell; Joe Chambers; Pete La Roca; Makaya McCraven -- though I admit I enjoy those more as arrangers/composers than drummers per se... still they come to mind. A fun & challenging video!
are you blind. Tony and Art appeared at the beginning and end of the video. And I can't mention EVERYONE!!!! respect the fact that these are MY favorites. I'm not a mind reader, I can't know yours. That I didnt mention yours is not a glaring omission or some fault of my personality.
Hey why get upset when people make harmless comments on your video? You did name it TOP JAZZ DRUMMERS OF ALL TIME?!? Maybe if you didnt use this clickbait tactic you wouldnt have ended up whining over comments. Not a good look at your age.
@@leeroc1 ha! Bad day. My age has zilch to do with it .
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 this is an unnecessarily rude overreaction to someone who actually appreciated your video and took the time to write a comment in return to express a candid opinion. In no way my comment questioned your personality. Your aggressiveness is all the most bizarre given that you solicited this type of comment in your own description box: "add those who I have missed". I don't get it... but lesson learned. Ciao.
Anybody knows who’s playing at 16:57? Similar to Kenny Burrell?
Check out the great interviews with the wonderful Mel Lewis by Loren Schoenberg on youtube. Mel said Roy Haynes was playing at time like Elvin in the 1940s. Way over the barline, primarily when Mel saw him live. Mel said the recordings generally were much more conservative on recordings vs live. Roy Haynes would also fill in with Coltrane if Elvin was out. Roy fit perfectly on Trane's live at Newport '63.
My 5 favorites:
Elvin
Roy Haynes
Philly Joe
Jack D
Mel Lewis
Honorable Mention: Shelly Manne
Vinnie Colaiuta
Jeff Pocaro
Peter Erskine
Sonny Emory
Richard Bailey
Bernard Purdie
Yea Vinnie… he played with so many of the Grace and very few people even know about him
What about Billy Kilson? His start-stop playing is just incredible
Being into free jazz Milford Graves and Hamid Drake are tops for me. Recently Daniel Villarreal is a favorite coming from a whole different sound.
Has he made solar records?
Current amazing drummers : Brian Blade, Tyshawn Sorey, Joey Baron, Tomas Fujiwara (Mary Halvorson)…
Tour de force Ken, thanks! Might add Hal Blaine on the rock side.
Frankie Dunlop was amazing, as well.
Glaring omission
Roy Haynes Billy Higgins and Tony Williams are my personal favorite but what about Shelly Manne?
Rock + Carl Palmer
Jazz + Art Blakey
Max Roach on “Money Jungle” with Elling5on and Mingus?
Wow Ken, how do u not have Art Blakey or Max Roach on your list?
Blakey was pictured in the beginning and end of the video. Max roach is one of the great founding drummers of bebop, but frankly, I’ve never had much interest in him. This is not a list of all time of all to have ever played jazz across the known universe. People always want to pick it. What is not there without acknowledging what is there
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 Got it. Thanks Ken, I was looking for Blakey when you were sharing the jazz drummers. 👍
My Top 5:
1. Jack DeJohnette
2. Tony Williams
3. Elvin Jones
4. Art Blakey
5. Chico Hamilton
_ Bill Stewart, Brian Blades.
Nice analysis, Ken. You missed Paul Motian's favourite drummer ruclips.net/video/dPfTjgc0wN4/видео.html . I could not really following the first 7 or 8 minutes about rock drummers as I did not know most of them apart from one or two. When It comes to Led Zeppelin, I am in the 'Willie Dixon camp'. My view is that as well as for plagiarism he should have also sued them for murdering so many old blues songs. I agree generally with your choices. One of my favourite current drummers is Herlin Riley of New Orleans whose technique goes right back to Baby Dodds and the dawn of jazz, but he could fit in with Ahmad Jamal, Wynton Marsalis, Bill Frisell and, recently, Emmet Cohen. Another great New Orleans drummer was Leo Morris aka Idris Muhammad who could play jazz and a number of other genres. Keep up the great work. You are one of the best informed jazz commentators on RUclips.
Wow no mention of Max Roach ?? Are you kidding? Andrew Cyrille, Dannie Richmond etc.
Yes Im kidding
Tony Williams?
I guess you missed it. Both in the beginning and the end.
The Jim Gordon story is very tragic. He developed Schizophrenia which contributed to his fatal attack on his elderly mother.
You mentioned many fantastic drummers but not Buddy Rich?.
What about Max and Buddy?
I spoke about buddy in the video. Max was one of the great innovators, but he personally never did much for me. And this is a video about my favorites. I can’t include everybody whoever played a jazz rhythm on the drum set.
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 I totally understand Ken. One drummer I’d like you to consider is Billy Kilson. I think he is outrageously good.
@@stimpy1226 fantastic drummer! Love him on the Dave Holland Big Band album, What Goes Around.
You forgot Danny Richmond, Ken.
Dannie Richmond.