Lethal Injections: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2019
- John Oliver discusses the lethal injection process, which is definitely not as pleasant as talking about a squeaking frog.
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Just wanted to point out that Judge Alex Kozinski had another interview with CBS in 2015 where the same discussion was held. He made a very effective point that has stuck with me ever since I first saw it. It went as follows:
Alex Kozinski: I would eliminate the entire controversy. I would use a bullet or a series of bullets. They're fast. They're effective. Nobody ever survives.
Bill Whitaker: Go back to the firing squad?
Alex Kozinski: Make it look like an execution. Mutilate the body. And this would express the sense of that's what you're doing, that we're actually committing violence on another human being.
Bill Whitaker: I read that you have even thought the guillotine might be a good way to execute.
Alex Kozinski: Oh, yes.
Bill Whitaker: Really?
Alex Kozinski: The guillotine works. Never fails. It's quick. It's effective.
Bill Whitaker: You do know what that sounds like, hearing a judge sort of be an advocate for the guillotine?
Alex Kozinski: Tell me.
Bill Whitaker: Barbaric.
Alex Kozinski: The death penalty is barbaric. And I think we as a society need to come face-to-face with that. If we're not willing to face up to the cruelty, we ought not to be doing it.
He does make a really good point, so many people fail to acknowledge that the death penalty is barbaric. I will never be okay with the death penalty.
Bill whitaker representing classic americans. Perfect.
This is completely reasonable. You can't make killing pretty.
Who said it wasn't barbaric. I suppose all the billions of animals we kill every year isn't?
@@EqualsThreeable It is too. It's just that culturally aproved by the majority. It will change at some point.
You know what, that guy at 16:16 has a point. If you're going to be in favour of the death penalty, you shouldn't suddenly get weird about the method. An injection might be more sterile/clinical for the audience, but as was discussed, it's (potentially) absolutely horrendous for the person it's applied to. Bullet(s) to the brain or decapitation is rather foolproof.
What it really comes down to is that a guillotine or a firing squad reminds people to clearly of what a barbaric punishment it _actually_ is. And they'd rather pretend it's not.
I realized that, when he covered the paralytic.
Clinically I'm against the death penalty for many solid reasons. Assuming the crime has been %100 proven guilty and I take the time to learn about the crimes these sub human monsters have done I can't feel bad about any agony they may go through even when I'd be disgusted by it otherwise. I just can't. You try. Take Clayton Lockett. Kidnapped, raped and buried alive a teenage girl. His suffering brings me joy.
@@apathyguy8338 Yes in a perfect world we would have 100% proof that the people being executed are completely guilty of these horrific crimes. Even if that were the case which it absolutely isn't, It's about not becoming the people that they are. I understand your logic and you have every right to have no empathy for someone like Clayton Lockett ( I'm not dismissing or saying your opinion is wrong in any way) but in my personal opinion we need to be better than the people we say are monsters.
@@someguy1141 As I said on a fundamental level I'm against the death penalty and would vote against it given opportunity for many reasons. But when someone like that suffers I find it cathartic if not enjoyable. So I can't get angry about it and therefor I can connect emotionally with those that want it. I only bring it up to try to better understand my own duality. Also they could have found a better example. Yes working from home may have hindered that for them.
Exactly. It's like, what is our goal really? I mean, for whom are we trying to minimize the trauma?
What she said literally scares the shit out of me it's terrifying when people mix their political views with their religious views
Hence the separation of church and state.
Kind of weird too considering that most Christians are opposed to the death penalty. With the sanctity of life and everything
@@sagelaw5997 I think it's just that people like this use religion as a way to justify what they already wanted to do.
It's even worse when either of them consists of pragmatic, effective and calculated practices of KILLING A HUMAN BEING
It's ironic because Jesus was against capital punishment.
“The most lethal thing to come out of a London driving school since prince Philip” this aged well
It didn’t really age at all to be honest. He didn’t die driving a car, he died eating a tangfastic.
Unlike Prince Philip.
@@usersaccount5706 He actually died after a heart attack while he and the queen were trying some BDSM action.
@@SergheyKatastrofenko .... If this is true...imagine
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That lady was trying to defend the death penalty by referencing the execution of an INNOCENT MAN!?
But by that, he saved us, and he foretold it would be happening anyway, so it was ... kinda okay? :headdesk:
I mean, I'm a Christian, but that is some fucked up shit.
TitaniumTeddyBear yeah I think murder is ok because my mom was murdered once
Actually Jesus was guilty of the crime he was accused of
@Ultimate Despair Gamer, actually, Jesus’ execution, and accusations, were politically motivated by the Pharisees, relying heavily on interpretation. His “crimes” were heresy and blasphemy, in which they said he was perverting and speaking against Jewish law. In actuality, Jesus interpreted Jewish law to mean something different than the Pharisees, and his interpretation was becoming more popular with the people. Fearing he was becoming too powerful, they lobbied Pontius Pilot to execute him, mockingly calling him King of the Jews, a title that could have been seen as a threat to Rome. It’s the modern day equivalent of imprisoning a journalist for reporting things you don’t like as a political dissident, like Jamal Kashoggi.
@@leylasmith7179 No they weren't. He was killed by the Romans and his followers changed the story later when they were trying to convert Romans. Cue 1000s of years of anti-semitism.
If Jesus did exist (which there is no evidence of outside of a bunch of magical stories written 100s of years after his death), he was just a guy who started a failed revolution.
“The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.” ― Fyodor Dostoevsky
@@Jordan-Ramses but you can at least treat your prisoners in a humane way, which is proven to reduce violence in prison and the rate of convicts commiting further crimes after being release. and last but not least, treating them like people and not like human garbage, which most prisoners are not, is the civilized thing to do.
In that case, we have one severely fucked up society.
Cruel AND Unusual, we live in tyranny, bitches.
@@likealightning4139 - I never said you couldn't treat prisoners humanely. So i don't even know why you are saying that. Are you able to understand the words that i am typing?
I pointed out that prisons are bad primarily because they are full of criminals. If a prison was too nice i would be very worried.
Scott Humphreys prisons aren’t just bad and improving them won’t make them good. Not everything is black and white.
One thing that nobody ever seems to bring up when discussing the death penalty is that the estimated wrongful conviction rate in the US is between 2-10%
He mentions it at the beginning.
As long as the death penalty exists, it _will_ be used on innocent people.
This is the only reason I do not support the death penalty. I strongly believe that those individuals who commit the most depraved crimes like mass murder or sexual assault on children should be killed. They are animals who will never change and as far as I’m concerned they are just a waste of space inside a prison and should have their lives ended as soon as they are found guilty. However, I believe that one single innocent person being put to death is unacceptable. Given that this happens I cannot support the death penalty. In a perfect world where no one was wrongly convicted I would strongly advocate for putting those sick individuals to death so they don’t waste anymore space on this earth. Unfortunately our world and especially the United States justice system is far from perfect
Here in Alabama we've had too many people proven innocent while on death row. Not just the one from Just Mercy.
It's more than that come on it's bs
Had to come back to watch this episode after the bomb he dropped tonight on 4/7/24. Over 4 years later and it's gotten worse. I appreciate the work John and his crew do to make a real impactful change in this world.
I love how he keeps emphasizing that HBO will be completely lost without Game of Thrones. He’s just relishing it and it’s so damn funny : D
There are already 3 spin-offs planned fyi.
They'll be fine. Just like how Netflix is doing just fine without House of Cards and Orange is the New Black. They are just as unrestrained on what content they can make, so another cult following show will be developed sooner rather than later.
Paolo Ariedo Much like when Sopranos ended, people were all “Where does HBO go?” They’ll be fine.
They have Westworld and Watchmen
What’s he going to do without the dragon money, so he can fund the necessary end of shows props?
“The one who passes the sentence should swing the sword” -Ned Stark
#Punisher XD
Nuff said
Well said, my lord...😉
Im down with that.. #Dredd
So the jury kills them?
I have always loved John Oliver and I shall never change. He’s brilliant and makes things funny even when they’re actually not. God love him
The talk about that feeling of being unable to communicate the fact that you're still aware of what's going on hits a little close to home with me. When I got my wisdom teeth removed, I was put under general anesthesia, where they ask you to count up to 20, and before you finish you're unconscious, but the time right before I went under was awful. I couldn't move my body, but was aware of who was around me. I felt like I was floating in the air, spinning slowly and unable to breathe. My last thought was that I genuinely wasn't going to wake up.
I know that that is incomparable to what lethal injections are like, but hearing about that being forced onto someone, criminal or not, just doesn't sit right with me.
And with the intention that they really _won't_ wake up.
Holy shit did you feel pain?
@The Last Hair Bender Not really? I was panicking and my lungs felt like they didn't have enough oxygen, but it only really lasted for no more than 2 seconds before I went under.
@@heknowswherefranceis4838 phew
I had quite a similar experience with my first two wisdom teeth when the anesthesia around them wouldn't work. And while I was in horrible pain but could not clearly talk, the dentist just told me to shut up and keep still.
"Have you even been involved in research?"
"No."
I said the same thing!
"do you have roblox installed?"
"I refrain from answering anymore questions."
For some reason I kept expecting him to eat a turkey sandwich.
Do you have a heart? Brain? Soul?
You know what the world research means?
"Lethal injection isn't about who they are - it's about who we are."
you hit the nail on the head every time
But most don’t care.
What does that say?
And yet he's okay with abortions (even late term). Regardless of your stance on either, he's being ridiculously inconsistent
@@jaredzambelli2824 im for late term abortions and lethal injection
Consistency 😎
@@jaredzambelli2824 Except abortions ARE a medical procedure and the vast majority of late term abortions are done because something is either entirely unviable with the fetus (as in it is either already pretty much dead or it won't survive for more than a few days out of the womb, if you're lucky) or the health of the pregnant person is in danger.
@@jaredzambelli2824 The thing about late term abortions is that they account for less than 1% of abortions and are only performed when absolutely necessary (for the health of the mother or the baby being born with a defect that severely limits their ability to survive outside of the whom past infancy). Although abortions are legal, medical professionals have the right to refuse performing them. No medical professional would perform a late term abortion because an irresponsible woman decided she didn't want to be a mother at the last minute. Please do research, find me a case where this has happened and prove me wrong. I'd love to see it.
It takes talent and a lot of empathy to understand how heavy this topic is and find a way to talk about it while still keeping it from getting too heavy for listeners. We need to be informed about this but its hard to listen to how horrible it is long enough to do so I applaud John Oliver and his writers for finding a way to do it.
The most humane death penalty is anesthesia. Supply enough anesthesia so the prisoner passes out then keep applying it until their heart stops. Humane, works without torturing the convicted and is lethal.
However no anesthesiologist would do that. For obvious reasons.
And also as it turns out is actually *really* hard to do to a healthy person, and would require a downright Keith Moon level of drugs to do. Hardly cost effective - among its other issues. And all that assumes it 'goes right'.
Again, that also doesn’t get around the fact that how do you know without doubt that the person you’re killing is actually guilty. At least if you are in jail for life you can be released with new evidence, yes you can’t get your life back, but you haven’t been murdered by the state. America is one of those countries that spends more time working out nice pleasant ways to kill people rather than working out, why they have such a problem with fucking crime and homicide in the first place
@@conors4430 I believe he was playing devil's advocate here.
That would effectively kill most people quickly... But most isn't all. Human beings can be remarkably difficult to kill, and we don't respond reliably to medication. A firing squad is more reliable, but I'm sure if we use it enough times we will find a horrifying example of what a man can survive.
Of course blood loss will always get you eventually. My dad came very close to dying from blood loss, he said that part was surprisingly peaceful. It's still a horrible and inhumane thing to do to a restrained human being.
Honestly, I disagree. As people pointed out, it won't always work, and definitely not quickly or smoothly. As the guy said, the guillotine is the closest to humane this practice can get. It's instant, painless, and cannot fail to kill.
The only reason it's not done is as almost everyone involved in this episode said - it's all a show. We want to still kill people, but we want to pretend it can be some gentle, bloodless thing.
That has to be the GREATEST lead-up to an ending joke I have ever seen.
There's a stray cat here. We need to call animal control to catch this cat!
@@-gemberkoekje-5547 "MA! There's a weird fucking stray cat outside! I don't want it starting a fight with Lucy!"
Stray Cat MA AHHHHHHHH!
NANI???
@@StrayCatBard "It looks like grandma the focking thing!"
"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the wise cannot see all ends." - Gandalf to Frodo, The Fellowship of the Ring
Oh, that made me emotional! I forgot about that!
This was the comment I was looking for, even though I didn't know it until I saw it. Thank you!!!
One of my all time favorite quotes. Thanks.
Very apt.
Um yeah so J. R. R. Tolkien had a lot figured out. Not everything, but a lot.
shaun did a really good video on the death penalty and I like the way he framed it. He framed it as "Lets assume that there are some crimes where killing someone is objectively the right thing to do, I'm not going to argue with you on that, lets just assume its true. The government still shouldn't be able to do it."
They can send you to war, but they can't kill the scum of Earth? Make it make sense
@@Nimish204 dont really need to make it make sense also two things can be wrong at once. Also "scum of the earth" is assuming alot. The justice system gets things wrong all the fucking time, literally all the fucking time, and sometimes they get it INSANELY wrong whether its police misconduct, investigation laziness, prosecutorial misconduct so on and so forth.
The thing is, its cheaper for tax payers to not use the death penalty and if a man is exonerated you can release him from prison.
If he's exonerated you cant bring him back from the dead.
The government should do it, but it should only be for the most morally reprehensible crimes.
@@FlexedNoose and the burden of proof needs to be crazy high
@BlackLivesMatter The level of evidence needs to be high, even a confession isnt great because police coerce confessions literally all the time.
My dog got excited from that frogs noise lol 😂😂😂😂
That 20 minute walk to the end of a punch line lol. Damn John.
Yeah, he took a really long trip around that joke, but I think it made it better.
yeah, the writing in this show is one of the best parts of it.
@@nonamedpleb the irony of it directly following up game of thrones at this point ;D
I know this was a serious, insightful topic but this is the best well structured piece of comedy i've seen this year so far!!!!
Yeah, but doesn't it make the point evade Alabamans somehow though?
John Oliver should turn the Desert Rain Frog into the official mascot of Last Week Tonight
Chi john
Why not the parrot, since that's kind of what he looks like?
Yes, since they had to give away Chii-John to that town in Japan
John already declared the Red-Tailed Hawk as the official LWT animal. ruclips.net/video/uiN_-AEhTpk/видео.html
@@somethingwithmusic9520 Oh, well shit
Firing squad is easily the best method. Cost effective, quick and despite the pain of being shot, it certainly beats the torture of lethal injection.
A 19 minute & 6 second long setup that ends with a fantastic 3 second punchline omg WOW❤ BRAVO!!
I felt like one of those questions for that doctor should have just been...
"Have you been involved in research?"
john said he is not a medical doctor
I'm pretty sure the person questioning was just being very specific. Those were all yes/no questions, and so there wasn't much room for spin.
@@salmaaziz9860 doctors in pharmaceutical sciences do research.
LOL! As they finished the questions, I was like, clearly, these questions should have been asked in reverse. Starting with the 'have you done or been involved in any anesthetic research?' should have been closer to the starting point. But admittedly, after all of that, I would have also asked, when, if ever, was the last time you were in a research lab?
I wonder if he and that weird senator got married?
The subject of the episode aside, John was really popping in this one. He landed everything with just the right amount of energy and timing. Great episode.
Propaganda at its finest
With a small exception of ommiting the questions: Was Sodium Thiopental working as full anesthetic (the video seems to suggest so)? And if it was: who was the idiot who made using it illegal and for what reason?
Are you on crack? Every single episode is the same. The same outbursts. Same profanities. The only thing missing here was some Trump attacks.
@@surveysays8335 lol it uses a similar style of humor but it is far from having that be the case. His humor is based on a similar system most talk shows go with but specialized to him naturally.
@@anonamous365 lol this isn't propaganda and it does say something that is very true. It is bullshit as it currently stands and if you use humane execution as a reason for supporting the death penalty, it is invalid upon scrutiny.
1. John Oliver’s “when GOT ends HBO is fcked” running gag really paid off in a way no one expected
2. Jesus Not-A-Death-Penalty-Justification Christ this episode is horrific
Well this became relevant again. Rest in peace, Brandon Bernard.
I came here after another person's DNA was found on the weapon supposedly used by Ledell Lee to commit murder. He was put to death 4 years ago, insisting he was innocent.
Sadly, I think this video is often relevant, if you live in the US.
@@ILuvAyeAye Well even with conservative estimations you usually exceed 1% of the executed to be innocent.
The desert rain frog is now my favorite frog.
Same!
Racist.
Mine is that frog that can get you high if you lick them
@@depressedbreakfast2614 I think that's the Colorado River toad.
Going with the anti-incest stance when you have Game of Thrones as a lead-in. Bold move.
I mean its not like GoT endorses incest
@@seedlesswatermelon417 his leaving to kill Cersei
@@joshwilner5622 haha yeah 30 minutes after i made that comment i saw some people talk about it and realized that he was gonna try to kill Cersei. Hell yeah!!!
Yeah, I lost all interest after that. Don't fuck your relatives, folks!
Tf did incest come from? It's a joke for Alabama and even then it's relatively false
Imagine 100 years from now, people stumbling upon John's websites 😂
I just reread The Giver, and this reminds me of it more than I would like.
I love how meta John can be about his own network. Even if it’s satirical
To a non American, I don't understand, could you explain the joke? Isn't HBO this network? Why would it be "fucked" because of game of thrones?
@@rodrigovda hey bud, GOT is their biggest show ever. When it's done, they might not have anything else to carry the network in terms of revenue/subscriptions/profit
"The fundamental fact to understand about lethal injection is it is a show. It is designed not to minimize the pain of people being executed, but to maximize the comfort of those who want to support the death penalty without confronting the reality of it."
This is why IF we are to apply the death penalty, something like a firing squad or the guillotine actually are the best options. Not only would they minimize the pain (death is not only certain, but quick), they would also lay bare the violence and brutality of the act of execution.
If that makes people too uneasy to continue the practice, ... then STOP it. If the only way you can bear to continue a practice is to look away from the realities of it, then maybe you shouldn't be doing it.
EMBRACE THE VIOLENCE YOU PUSSIES!
The guillotine isn't a good way. Decapitation was tested on rats, and brain activity continued for a few seconds. This would mean that you would still have thoughts after being decapitated, which isn't exactly humane. Firing squad, also a bit fucked. The best is crushing their brain stem, like you would with cattle. It ends brain activity in an instant
@@tanszism A few seconds of pain is infinitely more humane than 40 minutes of it.
@@tanszism A shot to the back of the head also ends brain activity in an instant.
@@tanszism the whole point of the first comment is that executions shouldnt be humain
Can we get a frog episode?
I know there's A LOT to cover in the next season but it would be a fun episode.
WOW JOHN I LEARN SO MUCH FROM YOU AND ADDING THE HUMOR TO IT MAKES IT EVEN BETTER FOR THOSE WHO DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND......YOU REALLY ARE ONE OF THE BEST THIANK YOU FOR BEING JOHN OLIVER.........😊
THE ROMANS WERE THE BAD GUYS IN THAT STORY, LYNN
Also they have no evidence at all that Jesus was even real. Using the magical land of make believe to justify the death penalty is just wrong.
Apathy Guy That there does not exists evidence as to the Divinity of Jesus of Nazareth is not the same thing as Jesus of Nazareth does not exist.
@@apathyguy8338 actually it is historically incorrect to say Jesus didn't exist, and just as ignorant as saying Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar didn't exist. Just because you're not a Christian doesn't mean you have to resort to spreading around lies about it. Well, your name has the word apathy, so that explains why you don't care about historical truth.
@@ulisesdominguez7540 Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar have an overwhelming amount of contemporary evidence that denial of them is tantamount to claiming Lincoln didn't exist. Seeing as the Bible is a self contradictory mess written from oral tradition compiled between 60 and 200 years after his hypothetical death it can't be considered to be a historical document by anyone claiming to be rational. Why not use the Odyssey as historical proof of Sirens and witches. Add to that there's not a single piece of contemporary correlation has ever been discovered. You truly need to educate yourself on the facts without allowing your desired beliefs to take control of your cognition.
@@blixer8384 I never placed divinity in my statement and have no idea why you did. At the end of the day no evidence as to his existing has ever been found. Sure you can believe if you want and no one prove he didn't live but we have better evidence that Bigfoot is living in Montana than if Jesus was real.
I first thought, they make the poisen for the injection out of the frog.
Yeah dude!!! Knowing John and how his episodes turn out, I thought he would say "as cute as their war cry may be, look how they are crushed to extract the poison".
Same.
Only if it's a gay frog.
Mr. Grifter Alex Jones is that you? Lol
Only if they want the prisoners to trip balls before their execution
I was against the death penalty to begin with, and I have heard some horror stories about lethal injections, but this takes the cake.
I'm proud to be a Queenslander from Australia which was one of the first jurisdictions that banned capital punishment. No matter how you look at it killing is wrong and two wrongs never make a right. Even worse if an innocent person wrongfully convicted is executed, who should shoulder the blame?
I watched this with my mom...
Thanks John 😕
😝
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@John O Dude..
John O he did, despite the fact they don’t have much chemistry.
Did you break your arm?
I wrote a college paper on this about a year ago and it was one of the most eye-opening things I've researched. The ineffectiveness, failure rate, and cost were mind-blowing when I first saw the stats.
Medical student ?
@@patdan123 Not at the moment, but I'm hoping to be able to get into a med school when I'm done with college.
@@denebkaitos7511 good on ya. I'm a third year in though. Good luck
@@patdan123 Thanks and good luck to you too.
Yes, lethal injection is a bad way to do it. Put them in front of a firing squad or under a guillotine - a bit messier but no chance of botching it.
I had medalazam (in addition to actual anesthetic drugs) for my ankle surgery. Medalazam made me sleepy and on it I remember brief flashes of going to the operating room. I remember my surgeon talking and me thinking “I’m not fully under” and then they gave me actual anesthesia
Yeah, midazolam is given *before* anesthesia to help people relax and reduce their anxiety before surgery and it's also used for conscious sedation procedures. It won't put you to sleep, it won't relieve severe pain, and even the sedative effect will disappear if someone is paralyzed, suffocating and having fire injected into their veins
@@nowandaround312 but you would be unable to wake up by the time the sedative wears off. And that’s because of the suffocation. So no suffering.
They use a much higher dose for executions. So you to pass out
@@Lapusso650 Either you completely misunderstood the entire video and our comments or you're pretending that you did. I'm guessing it's the latter but in case you really are confused I'll explain it again:
*It's physically impossible for someone with a functioning brain to stay asleep while suffocating and experiencing severe pain unless they've been given general anesthesia.*
Sedatives ARE NOT an anesthetic. General anesthesia causes a forced state of unconsciousness which shuts off your survival instinct and prevents your brain from responding to pain signals. Sedatives don't work that way. A very large dose of a sedative can make you drowsy enough to fall asleep, although that's very unlikely to happen when you know you're about to be executed but even if you do fall asleep at first you WILL wake back up as soon as the severe pain and asphyxia starts.
@@nowandaround312 that is incorrect. Otherwise they wouldn't be using that drug. There have been multiple court cases about this.
I remember watching this episode when it first came out - after this episode was over I was completely against capital punishment.
The good shit to watch while breakfast.
Oh yeah!
@Alfredo Barragan 502 about 9am, Germany. Unemployed, so it's the perfect time for breakfast.
same
@@jakob19982010 me too technically. Well... Actually I'm writing my a-levels atm but my next exam is wednesday so atm I'm unemployed
@@derdude3796 all the best in your exams!
"It's not about who they are, it's about who we are." That is the most poignant statement from this show ever.
Yeah. Who we are. That prison he mentioned in this, that Lockett guy? He shot and buried a 19 year old girl alive. So what does it say about us if we treat such a person better than he ever did for his victim? What does it say about us if we coddle murderers who shatter families and bring pain for no reason to people's lives?
Let's say if I hide a Nazi because I didn't want him to be executed for war crimes? You know what that makes me? A person with very sick ideas about justice.
@@Wesker10000 Exactly. There's a real good reason Oliver failed to mention the crimes of any of the death row inmates he talked about here. It makes it easier to sympathize with psychopaths and murderers.
Hogwire so he’s a monster and that justifies our turning into monsters to retaliate?!? If you think what he did is so bad why would you turn around and do the exact same thing? That makes NO sense! Personally, if I was kidnapped & enslaved & tortured for months then killed in a slow & painful way, I wouldn’t want any of my loved ones looking for revenge like that! For one thing it doesn’t undo anything- I would still be dead! My friends and family would still be sad. It wouldn’t ease their pain to know another person suffered my fate. I think it would only change my loved ones for the worst because I expect better from them than I do of monsters.
@@xiomara5147 I'm going to respond to all your points:
1. Killing Lockett doesn't make me a monster, nor does it make me 'just like him.' Here's why: What Lockett did was wrong because he killed an INNOCENT YOUNG WOMAN. She did not deserve what happened to her. Murdering Lockett is not equal to murdering an innocent young girl, its simply giving him what he deserves. So yes, killing him for killing an innocent makes lots of sense.
2. You have no idea you wouldn't want revenge. Even if that's the case you'd be dead. So you wouldn't 'want' anything. How would you want your family to treat this person who tortured you to death? Have him over for dinner?
How do you know it wouldn't make them feel better? Have you ever had someone you love taken from you? I have. My father was killed when I was six years old. If I saw on the news that someone had raped and murdered the man who did it, you fucking bet that news would brighten my day.
@@Wesker10000 If 4% of them are supposed to be innocent it doesnt make us all that much different from your hypothetical killer. At least in 4% of casses.
Saying it for emphasis:
Should never be operated for profit:
1. Healthcare
2. Prisons/Jails
3. Education
Corresponds exactly with:
1. Life
2. Liberty
3. Pursuit of happiness
I think if a jury gives out the death penalty, it should be that jury who carries it out. Make then have the courage of their convictions.
juries are the only people less qualified to do it, but judges and juries being expected to watch, id say. or just to see what they look like
"Have you been involved...in research?"
Yes, that would have been a time saver! No need to list all of those drugs individually.
NO....
“... No”
I think it’s to hit the point home. Then in court you can show that they admitted to not researching any of the drugs in question. In court the lawyer could argue “well you didn’t ask my client specifically about XYZ. He misunderstood the question.”
no❤️
"True courage is not knowing when to take a life, but when it spare it."
-A fucking awesome wizard.
@cornskid firstly, friend, it's a quote. From Gandalf. You should have this argument with a fictional character instead.
cornskid How about the courage not to give into the first base instinct to kill based on anger and hatred? The courage to want to be better than the people we convict? And maybe try and help them be better as opposed to just deeming all prisoners lost causes?
Prison life is not much of a life
@cornskid What is the definition of courage ? Maybe we don't understand it, explain, please.
@@Khwerz that is kind of the point.
16:15
“Guillotine? Cmon.”
The only reason people don’t want the guillotine is because it makes the pro capital punishment proponents feel better about a “clean” execution.
Smh16:37
Hilarious
18:30
Yessssss!
👏 👍🏾
Four years later and wikileaksorwhatever is still up and running.
"The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword" - Lord Eddard Stark
No... George rr Martin wrote that and created the character
@jocaguz18 unless you are a psychopath, I really doubt that.
@@pawnzrtasty Can you chill out, man? You know what he meant.
Some interesting bit of useless knowledge: the jewish bible describes a punishment (that was never used) given to children that are rebellious, useless, and only eat and drink (alcohol) all day. The parents would bring the child to the city elders, and then the child would be stoned to death in the city square. Anyway, Chazal decided that in any case this punishment would ever be administrated, the parents should be the ones to throw the first stone, and it wasn't used once in jewish history.
@@waves_under_stars The "Jewish" bible? You mean the old testament? Which is also a cornerstone of the christian faith...
"Lethal injection isn't about who they are, it's about who we are." - Best JO quote ever
M. Miel
But isn’t life imprisonment, or extended sentences (sentences meant to extend beyond how long a person could reasonably live, such as when people get 200 years for various combined crimes) just a realllllly slow death sentence?
And how do you think most people serving life/extendeds die? They get sick, then suffer, and then die. It’s not very common for lifers to just die peacefully in their sleep or anything like that. Bodies should rot in the ground, not in a cell.
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle - The same could be said of people living outside of prison. Most people do not die in their sleep. They get sick, they suffer while medical staff work to keep them alive, and then they suffocate. That doesn't mean we should just blow up the earth and get all our deaths over with.
Really because I think it's bullshit. There is a difference between murder and punishment. It's an important distinction that John ignores here. Like covering how Lockett died but not the grisly details of his crime. He kidnapped, beat, and shot, a teenage girl before he buried her alive. He was a monster but we are bad people because he suffered when he paid for his crime...
@@TheZeroNeonix what he meany was if death penalty is bad so is life sentence. how can you put human in cage for life? there should not be life sentence to anyone.
@@GibDozer1 yeah when i looked that up I was kinda glad that he suffered as much as he did before he died.
These people don't deserve sympathy. Or mercy. They're not even humans. At best rabid animals that need to be put down, at worse demons from the pits of hell made flesh.
I'm never going to be moved by the "we're better than this" argument. Everyone is better off pointing out how innocent people are sentenced to death. That alone is the reason I support abolishing the death penalty.
The harshest truth is said in the funniest way! Brilliant!
When hes being asked the questions i thought, but Dr have u ever tried marzipan?😅😂
"This desert rain frog - it sounds like a dog's toy" - my dog immediately looks up to see where the squeaking comes from :D
*squeaks in anger*
STOP CALLING ME CUTE REEEEEEEEE I MAD
What a frog!
Same
My cat is still looking for that frog
@@gretchenbaker7435 So is mine! I can hear her, scratching and sniffing away under the bed... XD
He made the best point right off the bat. 4% executed are eventually found to be innocent. The state executing one innocent person is already too many.
if they were innocent then how the hell were they convicted and not have their case dismissed shortly after?? some cases have been proven to be incorrect I get that but come on man you wouldn't be there for no reason....
@@GHustle4 Congratulations on spotting the massive problem.
@@GHustle4 Hm. Sheriff wants to be judge, Deputy wants to be Sheriff - policy of the hard hand gets votes - so let us lead this poor bloke to sign a confession...
Or more generally - if some terrible crime is commited, the only way to appease the public is to present a perpretator, convict and sentence him. It's secondary if the convicted one is the right one. That happens, if 'retaliation' becomes part of the legal process.
@@GHustle4 You are kidding right? Do you know how many people confess to crimes they didn't commit? This targets black people most of all. They are lied to by the police, told if they confess, they'll get to go home faster. And this is just one of the MANY issues in our justice system. Yes, some people are put there for other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or looking "similar" to the actual criminal. 1 innocent person being killed by state should be enough of a reason for this not to happen.
@@GHustle4 - Because our justice system rewards the prosecution for numbers of convictions. It rewards the enforcement personnel based on arrests. The system is stacked AGAINST the defendant. Being innocent is immaterial to the system. Exculpatory evidence is non-admissible in most cases (that's evidence that PROVES innocence.) There are stacks and stacks of cases of enforcement planting evidence and lying so they can arrest, and of prosecution suppressing evidence that would exonerate or lead a jury to a non-guilty verdict.
The majority of such cases are NOT highly publicized. In fact, the media is often forbidden to reveal such details by court orders and laws, even if they get the information in the first place.
Our justice system in the US is supposed to be based on the assumption of innocence, yet every thing that has been put in place since the late 1800s has eaten away at that assumption. Unbalanced funding which favors prosecution, laws which prevent the presenting and admissibility of exculpatory evidence, plea-bargaining, and more.
The prosecution will do all kinds of things to extort a plea-bargain. It saves them having to actually go to trial, counts as a conviction, and the accused effectively loses most rights of appeal.
You really should research what actually goes on in how the accused and convicted are treated in our justice system. It's quite reprehensible.
What an intro throwaway. Gold.
So happy to find that they still have this website
Thank you, to the whole crew, for making a show that tackled this topic, and for being brutally honest along the way.
Is taking someone off the street and locking them in a cage for years against their will wrong?
Yes?
Well then, we'd better not lock someone who locked someone in a cage in a cage.
...Except, of course, that they weren't honest. They omitted certain information that made their claims problematic. They didn't mention that the shift in what drugs are used in lethal injection drugs has been because of boycotts and public pressure put on manufacturers of drugs to get them to stop (See www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/04/27/supreme-court-death-penalty-case-focuses-on-lethal-injection-drug).
They also overstate what the 4% study they quoted actually did, which was come up with a way to "estimate" what the innocent rate might be - specifically, their premise is "Because some people sentenced to death are exonerated on appeal BEFORE execution, there MUST be people who are are innocent but not exonerated." They make this as their premise but then dismiss the fact that NONE of the inmates in their sample were exonerated post-execution. See www.pnas.org/content/111/20/7230 for the study and check it out for yourself.
Don't kid yourself. This is a comedy show plugging a view they think the majority of their audience wants to hear. You can be entertained, that's fine, and some of the points they make are valid... but don't think watching a comedy show will give you an honest understanding of an issue.
@@TacticsFanatic Fair point. The study didn't say any innocent people had been executed. But I would argue that the fact that innocent people had still been sentenced to death (even if they didn't actually die) is frightful.
I watched this with my mom. That wasn't awkward at all.
Do you agree with the reasons though?
hahahahaha
Oh dear God!
Well of course it's not awkward. I mean you wouldn't even think about fucking her right?
Right?
What position were you two doing?
Who else is here to rewatch parts 1 and 2 of what's now officially a death penalty trilogy?
As someone molested by their mother, the bizarre fixation the writers have with bringing back the “sex with mom checklist” joke four times in 15 minutes is legitimately unsettling.
I could use a "Chiijohn meets the desert rain frog" segment right about now
666tbird yess- much better lol
"Papa needs a new pair of Jesus's!" This is one of those sentences that could only come from John Oliver.
Reverse cow-mom too
Thank you for the work you've done. I wish I knew all of this sooner.
2023, can confirm that web page still works.
Yeah, i looked too ^^
OMG, the squeaking frog was beyond adorable!!
Ya the rest of the video ain’t be like that man sorry
Squeaky Pepe the frog.
Honey, you got a big storm comin
Maureen Lippincott I know!
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To go from adorable Japanese mascots to the death penalty is a little bit of a 180°
Thats why he smoothed it out by a super cute frog angry and ready for battle
Not really. Hello Kitty would kill is all, if she could.
Welcome to John Oliver.
Well...did you know Japan still hangs people? ;)
Last episode was shittiest and most boring ever
Every lethal injection proponent needs to watch the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "A Taste of Armageddon," and really internalize Jim Kirk's speech about the brutality of war and suffering and how monstrous we can become when we forget the reality of violence.
YES. Star Trek has so many great philosophical episodes. There have been so many times when a moral issue will get brought up and my immediate thought is “oh hey, there was a Star Trek episode about that” lol
Honestly might be my favorite TOS episode, what a perfect mix of entertainment and moral.
Binge watching LWT to celebrate 3 more seasons!! 🤘🤘🤘
Oh John my sweet summer child. It's Zootopia by a wide wide margin.
Yeah, I mean come on. That cop bunny is HOT.
Youre a furry
Nick Wilde is sexy.
I feel like they chose Monster's Inc just so people would disagree because they know how much rule34 Zootopia content is out there.
Sully though
I am so thankful for these uploads on youtube.
Epic! I just gifted you some reddit gold!
Awesome. Great last line.
Well said
The collective "aaaw", when the frog first squeaked is incredibly cute in and of itself.
last week: chitaan
this week: lethal injections 🤠🤙
what about sad yeehaw
Yeah, you could tell last week that this week was going to be something serious, but at least John Oliver can put a humorous, if disturbing, spin on it.
Lmao
That Chitaan episode though
Exactly why I love this show
Id seriously feel 100% better about the death penalty if , those in favor of it, did not refer to it as "justice". Firstly, the person who was unjustly killed, is dead. Secondly, lets stop calling it "justice", when the entire point of putting the murders to death is all about revenge. Revenge is not "justice", again, because the one who actually died is dead. Its simply revenge, so lets call it what it is.
They would sooner get penaltied themselves than admit distinction.
But if they called it that, it’d be a lot harder to make it seem like a reasonable thing for society to do.
"Revenge is not justice"
Justice is literally just when revenge is sanctioned by the state
The senator Lyn Hutchings is the political version of the villain from the movie unbreakable, "so many victims to find you".😂
Me: “mom can we stop for sodium thiopental”
Mom: “we have sodium thiopental at home”
Sodium thiopental at home
“Madazalan”
Sodium thiopental, is a barbiturate while Midazolam is a benzodiazepine; different drugs from different classes.
I lol’d 😂
Gd_ Godmarc you’re wrong. Midazolam is also known as Versed” pronounced ver-SED. It is used for conscious sedation in GI procedures like colonoscopies, as well as other procedures to make the patient comfortable and unable to recall the procedure. It is used in combination with Propofol, fentanyl, for instance, to sedate a patient being intubated for placement of a breathing tube because of lung issues, or a “Portacath” for a patient to receive chemotherapy, or other necessary medications.
It’s a benzodiazepine, while Sodium thiopentithol is a barbiturate used primarily in the induction of sedation for surgery. Conscious sedation does not usually require an Anesthesiologist. Total sedation is controlled by an Anesthesiologist who also intubates the patient prior to the start of a surgery performed by other doctors. Try looking up a medication before commenting about it. It will help you with spelling the word, as well as sounding ignorant instead of witty, or whatever you’re going for. FYI
@@jkhtravelrn smh nerd, just laugh at the joke
@@jkhtravelrn ....no.
Shouldnt the argument "Whoopsie, we might have just killed the son of god" be used against the death penalty?
This really doesnt sound like a thing you want to do twice.
If we did, wouldn't he just get back up again after a few days? if anything we should keep all the bodies around to see if any get back up. OK aside from how horrible my previous statement was I am currently against the death penalty due to cost and that we currently are at a 4% error rate.... should those two things change in the future I will reevaluate my stance.
Yes, but who said all Christians were sane? There's a reason I no longer believe in God.
Religion really doesn't sound like a thing we would want to do twice x.x
When they can't kill someone, they'll waste some kids and cover it up with their 'belief'
Who would that persuade? The whole point of christianity is that he died for some people's sins. That's like the whole point.
Oh my god me and my dad literally had an unprompted conversation about how if we were to be exicuted we'd rather have the guillotine than injection
Also, technically, the best birthday ever.
I wonder how many website domains John Oliver has bought so far
If you're keeping count, he mentions three of them in his video about Rudy Giuliani.
Someone should do a tally of that.
@@kyara7032 And now we wait for it to be updated with tonight's, lol.
@@kyara7032 thanks 😄
Ask HBO they probably have the receipts lol
Last year I wrote a term paper about lethal injection in Texas after seeing your show about death penalty.
Anyway I just want to thank you guys for all the research and time you put into every show. Keep up the amazing work
Regards from Germany
Cora Hofmann Grüße aus Deutschland zurück
Mensch, noch mehr Leute aus Deutschland :D
@@irgendeinname5871 Deutsche? Hier? Niemals!
Grüße aus Österreich!
Deutsche, oh ja!
I agree with what you said though, Cora.
THAT is what I'd call one of the Longest waits for a budum tss I've ever had
Ironically this video have my favourite last words of LWT
I was honestly really sad they didnt talk about the desert rain frog 😭
Reading the title I initially thought he was going to talk about how its venom was used for lethal injections.
100th
Yeah I had to look it up after. Too cute not to watch a video on.
Here is five minutes of a desert rain frog making adorable war cries as a consolation prize.
ruclips.net/video/qwKak-r74k8/видео.html
Technically they did
„Lethal injection [or execution in general for that matter] isn’t about who they [the prisoners] are, it’s about who we [the people] are.”
I think this is the core of the debate. This is what we should be talking about.
The Death penalty is revenge, not punishment.
No, that's wrong. It's a punishment. Punishment is about the person receiving it, not the person(s) involved in doling it out. And just to clarify, this is who Clayton Lockett was:
archive.is/20140501035701/docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/servlet/page?_pageid=394&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30&doc_num=206409&offender_book_id=98755
Now that you've seen the clinical statements of fact of what he was convicted for, go read a few news articles detailing exactly how horrendous those acts were.
F C I personally think Society as a whole deserves that “revenge” when it comes to certain High crimes. There’s something about killing the worst among us that we can PROVE without a shadow of a doubt did it, that gives the populace a sense of peace.
@@AlexAnder-rv1gu Fair enough. What do you think it was that lead him to become the way he was? And do we meet brutality with more brutality? Murder is wrong, no matter who does it.
@@Mnecrafter99 Does the revenge actually provide us with relief or a sense of well being? I don't get either of those things from any executions, and I don't want the revenge. I'd rather see people locked away to rot than to pay more to kill them, though actually both seem cruel to me.
The way I see it, if there is any chance, whatsoever, that you may end up executing an innocent person, then the death penalty is off the table full stop. Now, because there is always a margin for error in conviction, that means the death penalty should be completely outlawed.
There’s cases where I think it’s 100%, absolutely the thing to do, and the person is clearly guilty of what they did. The problem is, I don’t trust anyone in government to properly draw that line.
A one-year-old saying “THIS IS THE WORST BIRTHDAY I’VE EVER HAD!” is grammatically hilarious. XD
That was one of the greatest setups to a punchline
As bad as capital punishment is, the Guillotine really has proven to be one of the most humane methods.
What about the euthanasia coaster?
Really? Because experiments conducted during the white terror period in France determined that decapitated heads remain conscious for several minutes, with the eyes of the victims even noted to actually move with purpose and follow people moving around them.
Not sure I’d class several minutes of consciousness as a severed head as “humane”.
@@MahraiZiller e u t h a n a s i a c o a s t e r
Eat the Rich toche 😉🤣
A pneumatic hammer to the back of the head works well for slaughterhouses. Quick and efficient.
I love that this website exists
Watching this in 2021 from Australia is just as wild as.. I'm a nurse and THE lack of knowledge associated with lethal injection there is horrifying.
To paraphrase Victor Hugo:
"To pass an irreversible sentence it would take an infallible justice system."
Is that the batman villian?
this is the one and only argument here.
i don't care if murderer dies paralyzed in intense agony. i do care if an innocent man dies.
@@detectiveduck6608 No, he is the author of Les Miserables and Notre Dame de Paris (the basis for the Hunchback of Notre Dame)
Most sentences are irreversible, you cant give back the years an innocent person has spent in prison.
@TheWin200000 you can compensate for it though
"...isn't about who they are. It's about who we are." Daaaaaang. *Snaps fingers*
Hope you didn't have the glove on though.
@@Lagastic It's a gauntlet! Gloves are what you wear when it's cold outside, not when you want to wield cosmic power!
Very portentous...it would look nice on a poster, but doesn't really say much or add anything constructive to the dialogue. At least that's how *_I_* see it...
[SPOILER] ... and I... am... Olivman
And I'm here clapping like a normal person :O
To those wondering that website is still up.
Yaaaaay! He actually bought the website and did that 😂😂😂