Long ago, a wise old Indian chief said " Only a government would think that if you were to cut 6 inches off one end of a blanket and sewed it onto the other end, you would have a longer blanket" 😂
YOU need to stop. We should stop lying about the time, YOU want to make it a 100% deal. Leave the clocks as they are all year? SURE. WHY BST, though? Your post is utter nonsense.
The problem with that statement is that if we had permanent daylight savings, while it is true we wiould not be plunged into darkness in the afternoon, we would instead be plunged into darkness in the morning instead, and a part of the mornings in which people need to be up to get to work, so that would mean darker commutes, and a negligible effect on road traffic accidents, since many would just happen in the morning instead. Personally, I would favour the status quo, but if we had just one, I would go with permanent standard time. I get why people want permenent daylight savings, but the actual implications need to be understood better before we make up our minds.
@@markhackett2302 You are aware that many years ago , the government DID leave the clocks at BST for 3 years ( if memory serves . ) ? Check the history .
Please also interferes with your circadian rhythms… brain mood , man mad also the calendars … time non of these things are the way they were ment to be and it’s so sad
@@olwens1368 We should have better arguments for doing something than "this is how we've done it". Changing the clocks twice a year causes a lot of missed appointments and confusion on the affected days, and a measurable effect on car accidents when the clocks go forward (as many people get an hour less sleep than normal). Bin it.
Where's your evidence for this? Now that hardly anyone wears a watch or consults a clock anymore, that doesn't seem plausible. All gadgets that we do use adjust themselves automatically 🤷
Silly that the clocks change in October when we have 9 hours sunlight but don’t change back till April when we are 12 hours sunlight It would be better to change back at the end of February or just stay on summer hours ! More sunlight in the afternoon means you can get out for a nice walk after work
No. How about, and sit down before this shocks you, we put the middle of the day in the middle of the day, hmm? You know, not a 9-5, where "middle of the day" is 1pm, how about we put it at 12, noon, instead.
no, it changes in March. The Schools in Scotland dont want to have kids coming in in the dark - 9am would be dark ...... and the scottish farmers dont enjoy milking cows in the dark, hence the Oct. change; they prefer darker evenings; it was tried leaving it in the 1970's and it resulted in kids having accidents on their way to school, and more kids not bothering to go to school
You are right. If we have to change the clocks then the end of October and the end of February should be the times to do it. It is really frustrating getting up in broad daylight in March when the early evenings, when I want to do things outside, are still dark.
Sunlight in the early mornings- useless. Sunlight in the afternoon- useful. Animals don't carry wristwatches so carry on regardless, with pets wondering where their breakfast is. Transport timetables are messed up with trains, planes, buses etc. out of position. Altogether an annoying, ridiculous farce.
With that first point, I completely disagree at the height of winter, because that would get instances where it would not get light in the mornings at all until about 7, and that is only twillight, it would take until 9 for it to be fully light. This would make more peoples commutes darker, including even many schoolchildren for that matter. That would lead to some safety issues, because traffic accidents would just happen in the mornings instead of the evenings, and children would end up having to walk to school in the dark, which could lead to safety issues. In a nutshell, at the height of winter, sunlight in the mornings is absolutely not useless in the slightest. I do acknowledge however that at the height of summer, sunlight in the early mornings is useless, but I absolutely do not support permanent daylight savings.
I fully agree. We should have personal choice to change culture and habits in winter, rather than having the fundamental universal constant of time be changed for us.
@@pjo2386 That is true to be fair, but I would still have concerns over darker mornings in the winter before I could wholeheartedly support that position.
Wrong. Who doesn't like long summer evenings when it is light to 10pm and you can actually do lots of things outside. That would all be clobbered by sunset at 8:15 pm. Furthermore the UK experinent in the 1970s showed that there were fewer accidents with the clocks ahead all year.
Can anyone tell me why the clocks go back 8 weeks before the winter solstice but don't go forward until 13 weeks after? I have asked numerous people this but no one seems to know?
Probably because the seasons are shifted with respect to the calendar. Therefore at this time of year it is still quite pleasant outside but 8 weeks after the winter solstice it is still decidedly chilly. silly reason and I would far rather have the clocks ahead forwards all the time
Stupid idea that costs a fortune , causes problems and does nothing. You have a certain amount of daylight and nothing can change that. I have seen German farmers getting crops in under searchlights and working on building sites with artificial lights. Farm animals have to looked after if it is light or dark. School children can have accidents going home. A stupid and dated idea.
Can you answer this important question, as I can"t seem to find anyone who can. Why do we have 7 weeks of GMT before the winter solstice, but we have to tolerate 14 weeks after, before we go back to BST ??? ATB Mike.
But farmers now have access to electric light. It's not the 19th century any longer. I regularly see farmers harvesting at night, the tractors and combines lighting up the fields with powerful lights. Modern farming is 24 hours anyway. I doubt it makes any difference to them. The whole thing with the clocks going back is archaic.
The Clocks go back because we are British and we like that sort of thing like railway timetables that change for no apparent reason every season and make us all late for work
You've got it the wrong way round. What was the persons name who introduced the idea of the clocks going forward. British Winter Time (GMT) is the real time. The world navigates by it.
They tried this in the 70s, but kids where going to school in the dark where it was safe to walk to juniors school, until a group of children where run down in Scotland and killed that's why they left it alone, don't forget schools where closer to homes and we had more of them
A myth, there was no such accident. An MP talked about what might happen and lazy journalists reported it as a true story without checking if it had happened...
Maybe the clocks could stay the same all year round and schools and businesses, that want to carry on with the idea, could just change their operating hours.
Is somebody making money from BST? I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but why does it continue, I cannot believe there is any benefit, just the opposite.
Wrong . There are lots of disadvantages to GMT. In summer it would be a disaster killing off long summer evenings and the 1970s UK experiment showed that there were fewer accidents with all year round BST.
I appreciate the extra hour of daylight in the mornings. As an early riser who spends a lot of time outdoors, (horses, dogs and lots of gardening), in the depths of winter, my day wouldn't begin until 9 o'clock.
@@leonardgibney2997 Depends on when you get up. There are the same number of hours of light and darkness regardless of which system we're on. If like me you are an 'owl' you miss the 'extra' hour of daylight and lose the hour in the garden in the late afternoon. The OP, being a lark, gets the 'extra' hour.
They always go back at 2am because doing it at 12am would be complicated as it straddles two dates. Changing from 2am to 1am leaves no room for ambiguity.
Long ago, a
wise old Indian chief said
" Only a government would think that if you were to cut 6 inches off one end of a blanket and sewed it onto the other end, you would have a longer blanket" 😂
Unless you sewed it onto the end that you actually used the most
@@dickienightingale 'Never is the eagle so attentive as when he is forced to learn from the crow.'
But I'd tell that Indian chief the British conquered the world so shut up.
Would rather have that sunlight in the evenings
What sunlight? In a month it would be as dark as it is now anyway.
Same but we live under a tyranny of morning people. Morning people control everything.
@@GardenVarietyGenX Yes but now it get’s dark at 6::3pm later it will be 4:00pm.
@@stacyn. yep! I dread it so much
@@GardenVarietyGenX It’s very depressing.
That needs to stop. Daylight Saving time is best. Not being plunged in to darkness in the afternoon. Leave the clocks as they are all year.
this is a form of daylight saving time.
Get over it
YOU need to stop. We should stop lying about the time, YOU want to make it a 100% deal. Leave the clocks as they are all year? SURE. WHY BST, though?
Your post is utter nonsense.
The problem with that statement is that if we had permanent daylight savings, while it is true we wiould not be plunged into darkness in the afternoon, we would instead be plunged into darkness in the morning instead, and a part of the mornings in which people need to be up to get to work, so that would mean darker commutes, and a negligible effect on road traffic accidents, since many would just happen in the morning instead. Personally, I would favour the status quo, but if we had just one, I would go with permanent standard time. I get why people want permenent daylight savings, but the actual implications need to be understood better before we make up our minds.
@@markhackett2302 You are aware that many years ago , the government DID leave the clocks at BST for 3 years ( if memory serves . ) ? Check the history .
We need to have a referendum to end this stupidity. If anything we need to add an extra hour during winter! I hate that it gets dark so early now.
Please also interferes with your circadian rhythms… brain mood , man mad also the calendars … time non of these things are the way they were ment to be and it’s so sad
But there is a fact that the UK indeed gets dark very early in the winter.
I agree with you.
This madness should be stopped.
rattled over a time-zone is crazy, come on now Alex.
In the modern world there are so many more important madnesses to worry about..
Only complaints when we STOP pretending that moving midday changes daylight, never before we START that deception.
@@olwens1368 We should have better arguments for doing something than "this is how we've done it". Changing the clocks twice a year causes a lot of missed appointments and confusion on the affected days, and a measurable effect on car accidents when the clocks go forward (as many people get an hour less sleep than normal). Bin it.
Where's your evidence for this? Now that hardly anyone wears a watch or consults a clock anymore, that doesn't seem plausible. All gadgets that we do use adjust themselves automatically 🤷
Stop with the clock changing, it’s nonsense !
Silly that the clocks change in October when we have 9 hours sunlight but don’t change back till April when we are 12 hours sunlight
It would be better to change back at the end of February or just stay on summer hours !
More sunlight in the afternoon means you can get out for a nice walk after work
No.
How about, and sit down before this shocks you, we put the middle of the day in the middle of the day, hmm? You know, not a 9-5, where "middle of the day" is 1pm, how about we put it at 12, noon, instead.
Agree.
no, it changes in March. The Schools in Scotland dont want to have kids coming in in the dark - 9am would be dark ...... and the scottish farmers dont enjoy milking cows in the dark, hence the Oct. change; they prefer darker evenings; it was tried leaving it in the 1970's and it resulted in kids having accidents on their way to school, and more kids not bothering to go to school
You are right. If we have to change the clocks then the end of October and the end of February should be the times to do it. It is really frustrating getting up in broad daylight in March when the early evenings, when I want to do things outside, are still dark.
Something to do with the gulf stream and when icy mornings start/stop maybe?
Does anyone actually want this anymore??
I'm yet to find anyone who does.
Tbh you would do well to find anyone who's even just ok with it.
yes everybody normal wants this, guess that excludes you then m8.
@@misanthrophex it is. then you need to widen your circle of friends such that you converse with people who have modicum intelligence.
@@coronatedcobbler we found one!
You'll see a lot demanding it. But not to STOP doing it, just do it all the time.
Yes, i want it.
Why would it benefit the farmers anyway? They've always worked from dawn to dusk, what time a clock face says is immaterial.
Leave the clocks alone! I have enough trouble sleeping as it is; the hour change is a nightmare.
Sunlight in the early mornings- useless. Sunlight in the afternoon- useful.
Animals don't carry wristwatches so carry on regardless, with pets wondering where their breakfast is. Transport timetables are messed up with trains, planes, buses etc. out of position.
Altogether an annoying, ridiculous farce.
With that first point, I completely disagree at the height of winter, because that would get instances where it would not get light in the mornings at all until about 7, and that is only twillight, it would take until 9 for it to be fully light. This would make more peoples commutes darker, including even many schoolchildren for that matter. That would lead to some safety issues, because traffic accidents would just happen in the mornings instead of the evenings, and children would end up having to walk to school in the dark, which could lead to safety issues. In a nutshell, at the height of winter, sunlight in the mornings is absolutely not useless in the slightest. I do acknowledge however that at the height of summer, sunlight in the early mornings is useless, but I absolutely do not support permanent daylight savings.
We should just stay with the ahead time.
@@coronatedcobbler I don’t like when it get’s dark early.
@@stacyn. ah fair enough
Why?
Why not stay with the actual time, the non-BST time?
@stacyn. Well, that's just your preference. Just because you think like that it won't magically change time rules
@@Artifis0743 It should stay this time.
This needs to end
We need to just stick to BST as it sucks not having the sunlight in the evening.
We need to be on GMT all year round it's the real time. When the suns overhead it's midday; anything else is political time.
I fully agree. We should have personal choice to change culture and habits in winter, rather than having the fundamental universal constant of time be changed for us.
the bars and tourist industry want as much evening summer light as possible; sunlight at 4am does not help their industy
@@pjo2386 That is true to be fair, but I would still have concerns over darker mornings in the winter before I could wholeheartedly support that position.
Wrong. Who doesn't like long summer evenings when it is light to 10pm and you can actually do lots of things outside. That would all be clobbered by sunset at 8:15 pm. Furthermore the UK experinent in the 1970s showed that there were fewer accidents with the clocks ahead all year.
@@Cowman9791 The UK experiment in the 1970s showed that there were fewer accidents.
After this clock change we will be on natural time, i.e. at Greenwich the Sun will be due South at Noon. It is BST that is unnatural.
indeed
You'll not see that, though, in the complaining, because that would inconvenience the "job makers", the important people.
Wrong BST is far better.
Please stay safe now the nights are getting darker keep our young girls safe
Can anyone tell me why the clocks go back 8 weeks before the winter solstice but don't go forward until 13 weeks after?
I have asked numerous people this but no one seems to know?
Gulf stream probably. Coldest time of year is mid to late January so more morning frost after the solstice than before.
Probably because the seasons are shifted with respect to the calendar. Therefore at this time of year it is still quite pleasant outside but 8 weeks after the winter solstice it is still decidedly chilly. silly reason and I would far rather have the clocks ahead forwards all the time
@@rogerphelps9939 Great minds think alike.
Idiotic. I'd cancel this stupidity
being rattled over a time-zone is wild stuff, you need to get out more Leonard.
When the clocks go back, the trains go forwards
Stupid idea that costs a fortune , causes problems and does nothing. You have a certain amount of daylight and nothing can change that. I have seen German farmers getting crops in under searchlights and working on building sites with artificial lights. Farm animals have to looked after if it is light or dark. School children can have accidents going home. A stupid and dated idea.
The Indy decides to produce something useful
Well said fella well said 👏
The clocks get adjusted twice a year for no reason......
Can you answer this important question, as I can"t seem to find anyone who can. Why do we have 7 weeks of GMT before the winter solstice, but we have to tolerate 14 weeks after, before we go back to BST ??? ATB Mike.
I BELIEVE IT IS THE FARMERS, WHO HAVE TO GET UP EARLY ALL YEAR ROUND, WHO ARE TO BLAME...............
But farmers now have access to electric light. It's not the 19th century any longer. I regularly see farmers harvesting at night, the tractors and combines lighting up the fields with powerful lights. Modern farming is 24 hours anyway. I doubt it makes any difference to them. The whole thing with the clocks going back is archaic.
That is absolutely not the case. That is an urban myth, and in fact it was mainly political to implement daylight savings primarily.
Sooooo... are we still preserving coal then or what?
Not keen on the dark nights and short days i prefer the summer with short nights and long days
Agreed. Just a pity its not possible to alter the whole planet to make that dream a reality.😂
Bring them forward not back!
Watch the accident rate go up now. Not safe for school kids
True. In the UK experiment in the 1970s the clocks were an hour ahead all year round and there were fewer accidentts.
The Clocks go back because we are British and we like that sort of thing like railway timetables that change for no apparent reason every season and make us all late for work
It is ridiculous and serves NO purpose and the clocks should be left alone
What was the persons name who introduced this idea of clocks going back?
Guy who likes catching bugs.
Benjamin Franklin for the USA (1794) & William Willet in the UK (1907).
You've got it the wrong way round. What was the persons name who introduced the idea of the clocks going forward. British Winter Time (GMT) is the real time. The world navigates by it.
@@RSH352 father time
@@hardsums32 indeed
It's about time we stopped putting the hours back and forwards.
I refuse to put the clocks back. I paid good money for them so I'm going to keep them.
What was the music in this video?
Because we are still stuck in an archaic time long since past and we don;t seem to be able to move on past it.
They tried this in the 70s, but kids where going to school in the dark where it was safe to walk to juniors school, until a group of children where run down in Scotland and killed that's why they left it alone, don't forget schools where closer to homes and we had more of them
A myth, there was no such accident. An MP talked about what might happen and lazy journalists reported it as a true story without checking if it had happened...
A heap of bull,not worth the disruption,and is useless!😈😈
Maybe the clocks could stay the same all year round and schools and businesses, that want to carry on with the idea, could just change their operating hours.
The Clocks go Back so it’s Light in The Winter in the Early Morning and Forward in the Spring so it is so it is Lighter in The Summer Months ?.
why dont other countries do it if its so important
I’ve got to wait an extra hour for lunch. Ugh.
To screw workers.
It’s all about control time only matters if you’re in prison.
Why do the British just keep accepting all this nonsense, just keep the bloody clock as it’s supposed to be and put an end to this stupidity.
That's was then this is now
Now we stop this b s
To annoy the hell out of people
this need to stop . time is the same whatever the humans try to think ... some of us... lol
Tell me were do you take the clocks back to
Is somebody making money from BST? I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but why does it continue, I cannot believe there is any benefit, just the opposite.
Wrong . There are lots of disadvantages to GMT. In summer it would be a disaster killing off long summer evenings and the 1970s UK experiment showed that there were fewer accidents with all year round BST.
clocks dont go back
the time zone do
also in ww2 the time went to double summer time so there you go
Absolute waste of time
They have always gone back or forward so what
pointless operation in this day and age..
Helps pegans
I appreciate the extra hour of daylight in the mornings. As an early riser who spends a lot of time outdoors, (horses, dogs and lots of gardening), in the depths of winter, my day wouldn't begin until 9 o'clock.
How do you get an extra hour of daylight?
@@leonardgibney2997 because the clocks go back by an hour.
@@leonardgibney2997 Depends on when you get up. There are the same number of hours of light and darkness regardless of which system we're on. If like me you are an 'owl' you miss the 'extra' hour of daylight and lose the hour in the garden in the late afternoon. The OP, being a lark, gets the 'extra' hour.
@@leonardgibney2997 You nick it from the end of the day.
I absolutely agree with you, and finally someone sensible who can understand the benefits of that extra hour of daylight in the mornings.
Don't need it anymore. probably never needed it.❤ must play havoc with computers, businesses. 😂
2am ? Is it just me that's always remembered them changing at 12am?
They always go back at 2am because doing it at 12am would be complicated as it straddles two dates. Changing from 2am to 1am leaves no room for ambiguity.
Because of the far right of course
You just sound uneducated with that reply
@@marilynhignett7914 that wasn't a reply it was a statement. This is a reply.
@@Deeejjj64that was a reply to what someone said previously
@@marilynhignett7914 still a statement
@@marilynhignett7914 never argue with an idiot
MEANWHILE IN GAZA!!!!!!
They do not change there clocks, what are you on about?
Yes they do change their clocks in Gaza.
Don't spam about Gaza