This comment is for the people not sure about buying this. Let me help you pull the trigger. As a knife guy myself I've had knives get dull and being to scared to sharpen myself I would just move on to another knife. The first knife I ever sharpened myself was with this system, it was razor sharp and I've gotten better and better. This thing is a lifesaver for people who are scared to use a whetstone or think they can't sharpen, I was the same way now I get mirror polished razor sharp edges of my knives now. Buy this!!!
To get the angle adjustment, how about putting a layer of black marker (Sharpie) on the blade edge? Then use the fine stone and make one or two light passes and see where the Sharpie is rubbed off.
@@markhamilton3215 He did at 6:36; but honestly there's no point. You know it's going to work. It's a controlled-angled sharpener lol. You really can't mess it up unless you try.
Very nice setup, looks like a well thought out system! Definitely a Lansky killer, but to compete with higher end sharpeners e.g. the KME they would need a much wider variety of stones. But at this price it is a great kit to get into fixed angle sharpening and get nice working edges on your knives.
I bet ya, you could cut one of those Edge Pro polishing tapes to size and stick it on that ceramic stone with no problems. That would definitely expand the capability a bit.
I'd hold any bet that in some time there will be one or two expansion kits. One with higher grit diamond stones and a leather strop, maybe with a 1500 diamond stone, a leather strop and a ceramic stone for cerrated blades, and maybe a second set, similar but with a longer rod for bigger blades. They are a company that has to make money, and I know some people that would pay some dough for a "complete" system with, say, a long and a standard rod, the standard stone and a second one as described. Or some bucks for the second stone plus another few for a longer rod. It's like having a Lansky, you start buying the ceramic stone for cerrations plus 2 or three diamond stones not long after you have the original Lansky set. For starters this sharpener is looking like it would do a good job for most of the knifes you have as it comes. I strop my knifes anyway after sharpening, using green compound. In my opinion a well done 600 grit diamond stone leaves a nicer scratch pattern than a 600 grit normal stone does. Otherwise I would love to have an additional 1000 or 1200 grit diamond stone, tho.
I must agree it’s better than the lansky especially the clamp system. Only drawback is lack of stone choices. But I would by it again in a second. Well worth the fifty some dollars.
Yeah, this looks really nicely made. But, it looks like there is no flat on the arm to be able to place an angle finder on to really confirm the angle.
Chop up progressively finer sandpaper and stick it to the stones. You can get insanely high grit sandpaper. Then use a piece of newspaper and stropping compound. That will give you a mirror polish on this system, and keep with the inexpensive theme.
Taytools 10-sheet polishing film* + Aleene's 29-2 Tack-It (both available on amazon) = insane mirror finish. I apply a very thin layer of the tack-it glue to the ceramic stone from the work sharp precision sharpener, then cut little strips of the taytools polishing film and it sticks extremely well. I took my knives up to 8,000 grit, but the polishing film goes up to an insane 500,000 grit. *the polishing film says it has a "pressure-sensitive adhesive", but it won't stick to the ceramic stone, hence the need for the glue. Also, the instructions for the polishing film say to peel the back of the film, but there's nothing to peel. I spent an hour or so trying to peel it, so save yourself that headache lol
I need a favor please. I have very limited use of my left hand. Is there any way I could talk you into clamping the base and flipping, clamping and attaching the arm with just the right hand? It would be appreciated. Thanks.
@@ahndeux Is that a fact, or is that your opinion? Seriously. How did you come to the conclusion that it won't sharpen a dull knife? Assuming a reasonable definition of dull, I mean a butter knife is dull...
@@silkytp789 Just listen to the sound... That is not how you sharpen a knife. I sharpen all my knife on Suehiro debado whetstones. That sound you hear is grinding away at the edges at a very rough grit.
I just ran across your comment, did you have any luck with it? I'm still looking for an America (or Canadian) made product. this is chinese crap and the abrasive selection isn't good. Just what china had to offer in the manufacturing process. ceramic rarely works, has to be the right material, and all their diamond abrasives are too course. I'm thinkin about making one, the wet stone is a pain in the ass to me. I am diehard about not buying chinese crap. I'll send you one if I come up with anything good. I can make a few as easily as one. I have a machine shop, thats how I know so much about abrasive machining. Thanks for your video's by the way:)
I ordered one just now, the link you provided shows $49.95 as of November 13, not 59 like you stated, that seems like a killer deal to me. I really like the review. I have a whetstone thats super smooth (2000+) that honestly I don't have the patiences to put on a decent cutting edge, if I had a 240 to 300 grit stone I would see results much faster. I will update after I get the sharpener
I tried mine out today. Pretty good. My biggest complaint is there is only 3 grits. 320, 600 and fine ceramic which seems like a 1200. Too big of a jump between grits. It does keep a consistent angle, though. Glad it doesn’t cost more the $50. Any more without more grits I would not recommend it. I am amending this review. Worked on a couple knives and in looking at the edge under magnification, there is no way you can get the scratches out with the fine stone after the 600. Without more grits I would NOT recommend this system. With more grits, I would recommend it. Easy enough for Worksharp to fox. Just offer a second three sided stone with some graduations in grits after 600.
@@bigsean2473 the Lansky only has like 3 or 4 angles of adjustment. It's not infinitely adjustable. You have to move the blade in/out of the clamp to get on the same angle, or you have to power through and remove way more steel than necessary. The Lansky is kind of a poor system.
I studied the various sharpening jigs a while ago, and picked this one. It really does work! I don’t know if it can produce the best possible edge, but it does certainly produce a good one.
You’re finding the correct angle by eye balling it? The sharpie trick is a proven method to find the right angle. Using an angle cube to make sure your angles are correct on both sides otherwise you get an uneven bevel. Seems like a good beginner system but limiting to 3 grits is odd. I wonder if they are going to release additional “rods” with higher grit diamonds? Either way it’s a good beginner system to learn how to sharpen on a fixed angle system
@@livingsurvival ya if that’s your method then your bevels will never be even. I guess when you’re “sharpening” an already sharp knife then that’s not an issue but when you are sharpening a dull knife those bevels will be uneven. It’s easiest to find the factory angle by using the sharpie trick then your removing less steel and spending less time sharpening.
@@overlandedc if you’re using a coarse grit on a dull knife you are removing enough steel to essentially re-bevel the knife. And using a system like this ensures it will be even on both sides.
@@livingsurvival I think you mean re-profile. 600 grit can also re-profile depending on the steel. Re-profiling is just changing the angle. I've used many systems like this. KME, Viper Sharp, Lansky so I speak from experience that regardless if their angle guides say 25 degrees, you should always verify using an angel cube and the sharpie trick.
@@overlandedc I guess when my eyes give out I’ll need to go that route. One pass and I can see where the stone is hitting the knife. No different than vanishing sharpie. I’ve used sharpie many times when starting out.
Looks like a great system for relatively cheap! How does the clamp handle flat ground blades? With the Wicked Edge you have to get creative to secure flat ground blades in the clamp, then use an angle cube to make sure it's not caddywampus. Otherwise you end up sharpening at a different angle on each side of the blade.
So, how does the angle measurement work? Its an illogical setting as the dimensions of the blade itself change the angle. Its also not possible for the blade to have the same angle from the tip to the heel
I just ordered one. I’ve got a few m390s and 20cv blades that are too nice to free hand on the worksharp belt sharpener. I see they have upgrades for this system too. Prolly some better stones… I’m amped to hone my ferrum forge knives I’ve neglected carrying them cause they r a pain to resharpen. My para 2 wharnie has been my daily cause it’s easy to resharpen on the sharpmaker. The wharncliffes are easier get honed I feel. I have 4-5 nice blades in need of edges. And also. Considered stone washing some blades I just didn’t have a actual sharpener so this will come in handy
Great review. Good you showed different knives and styles of blade. Especially you showed the thicker knife. Thats one thing that was hard to find out (if it could handle big knives with thick blades.) 👍
The KME has a knurled bar on the back of it's scissor accessory. I don't know it's diameter. Trying to find out if that knurled bar would fit in the clamp of the Work Sharp clamp?
Will it take a small blade - like a swiss army knife? My Lanksy won't hold the blade properly, and the stones can't touch it anyway because it doesn't stick out enough from the clamp.
I would use a sharpie marker on the edge of the blade to judge your angle setting is correct for the particular knife you’re sharpening. Takeoff the marker in a uniform pattern and you know you have the proper angle set on the sharpener.
I'm interested in how this thing works in terms of reprofiling. Knocking it down a few degrees. Same method as usual...Do so until you feel a burr on the underside, then flip it over and do so on the other side? Seems if you're chasing a burr, the constant flipping of the blade would be a bit of a pain?
I've always preferred the less bulky Lansy systems. I find a massive ergonomic improvement over edge pro style systems because I hold the knife by the handle, and hold the stone just like I would free hand sharpen, but I use the system to help guide the angle.
So would the Sharpe trick be a good idea on this system ? Looks like different blade heights would cause the angle to change. I ordered on today, that's why I'm asking.
I’ve been wanting this thing for the past few months now but I hadn’t been able to find one in stock.luckily,when I was checking out DLT Tradings new products earlier,they finally got some of these in stock so I went ahead and ordered it..I had been wanting a sharpener like this for several years but couldn’t bring myself to buy a KME,much less the more expensive ones..I’ve had a Lansky for a while now and it’s decent but the Lansky I bought didn’t come with the diamond stones so it’s a pain in the ass when go to sharpen knives in higher end steels like M390,20CV,S35VN,S110V,etc..I also have the Work Sharp field sharpener which is a great little sharpener but I’m definitely not the most skilled at knife sharpening so I usually just use it on some of my cheaper as well as some of my kitchen knives,mostly for practice..I certainly don’t trust my extremely amateur sharpening skill with my Microtech,Spyderco,Benchmade,etc knives...needless to say,I’m excited I was finally able to score this sharpener,can’t wait till it comes in
I've got this on the way I've got a wicked edge in the shop wanted this for in the house hope to receive my three orders by Christmas ✌Thanks for the excellent offerings !! Happy Holidays !!!
You can do both. I have my own thoughts on this though. Larger carbide steels might want to only do push. Carbides are easily pulled out and you’ll see things like d2 dull faster. That’s from observation not from any actual scientific research.
This thing blows the spyderco sharp maker out of the water and it’s a fraction of the cost! Thanks for the quick lesson, the instructions that came with it are a little confusing but once you know how to use it your good to go! Do you know if you can purchase just the stones by themselves? Great video thanks again.
I've used the Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharpmaker for years and I've had pretty good luck with it but it took a long time to develop the right muscle memory to use it right. My son has no patience and has a hard time with it. 😆 I do want another sharpener though with more degrees and the ability to reset an edge. For $60 it seems this is an absolute steal. I looked at the manufacturer video on Amazon to see how they recommend sharpening and it's totally different than this guy does. This guy is hacking back and forth on the same side of the blade which makes me cringe. He may have sharp knifes but they will dull easier because he's not doing it right. Anyway, thanks for letting me know I'll pick one up. 👍
Thanks for the review!!! Hard to tell but did you actually sharpen your mora to a skandi on this? Its looks like you just put a regular edge on it? just curious because I want this for my Skandi Knives.
Nice video. I have a precision adjust too and use it for most of my knives. You should be able to preserve the original scandi grind on most mora knives by maxing your precision adjustment all the way down. If you prefer the micro bevel I get that too but from experience you can get a good scandi grind pretty damn sharp! Once you put the micro bevel on a mora it’s a lot of work to get it flat again too.
Seems like if you don’t get the blade locked in the exact same way every time could give you different angles. Also seem like you need to know the manufactures factory angle or you’ll be off. Is it me or does this tool seem like there may cause a lot of issues getting the exact desired angle. Also wouldn’t the blade tallness effect your angle since all knives aren’t the same height? You would probably have to use the angle on the guide then actually measure your angle because I bet it’s off. I’m curious it looks nice but I just have a lot of concerns.
Howdy, nice video. Not too sure the dimensions of the last knife you used? But use bowies like the buck knives 184 buckmaster and buck 916. Largest would be the down under outback? If i could not use the rod, would you think this sharpener would be stable enough to hand sharpen? Right now i use my rockwell jawhorse to sharpen my knives.
Great review and I’m really interested in getting this sharpener but been looking on Amazon and can’t to seem to find it thought I seen a release date of Nov 1 any idea when it would come out?
With vise style sharpeners you should also try to center the blade also, it's important I sharpen on a we 130. If he put a marker line on the knife you would see his bevel is way off after
Nice review. Looks like a budget KME. KME may have to lower their prices now... I like that things are held in place with magnets. Even though a lot of it is plastic, it doesn't seem to be cheap; just better set up for mass production than the KME. They should make an accessory triple hone for it, containing: Super Coarse, Super fine and a strop. Might want to point out that, since the stones are diamond, a very light pressure is all that's needed. More is just going to knock the tiny diamonds off the stone. 4:36 - Using water on the stones will keep them from loading up with steel dust and make sharpening quicker. (but messier)
I want to put a Hair splitting edge on the front part of my blade and a working edge on the rear of the blade .. Will be able to get those edges with this sharpener ??
Really wish I knew about this before I got the Lansky. Though the limited amount of stone grit is a bit of an issue. And not just for those if us who like to put a nice mirror polish on our edges but for reprofiling the edge, fixing damage, or sharpening harder and higher end steels as well. Like I know it's not super common but a reliable and yet still affordable system that could sharpen Maxamet would be awesome.
@@bigsean2473 if you factor out all the accessories for the lansky...and just look at ease of use and precision...then an outstanding yes. I would bet the farm that accessories are coming.
It does have some nice features but didn’t seem like you hit the heal or tip on that first blade. I’ll stick to stones and a strop. Once you learn to hold the angle on stones they are hard to beat.
How do you keep from sharpening in one spot too much? Looks like it would be really easy to hit one spot more than another and create high and low spots in the blade.
I go back and forth a few times then before switching sides I do a few smooth swipes. You can feel where it might need work when you’ve sharpened a lot.
I own one of these and it is OK. The plastic flexes and moves around while you are working which is annoying. Keep a very close eye on your angle because as you work that thing will move around on its own as well. It does work but there may be better options out there.
Why do I need this device when with one of the knives you took the tri-sided sharpening thing off and did it by hand unguided, so why not just buy several different grit rods or stones and do it by hand and save some money?
Hello, I noticed that when you went to the Mora, you failed to check the edges angle as from manufacturer to manufacturer all edge angles are different! Just sayin'! Thanks, sincerely Randy. 🙏🏻😇👊
That's cool. Nice review, thanks. I'm tempted to get it, but I alreay have a worksharp guided WSGSS, which I'm not that happy with. Thinking of learning stone sharpening, or perhaps a system like this to get better results than I'm getting. What's your thoughts?
stone system are better because they take less mental then the sander types. the stone system get a sharper edge. I have both types the functional difference is not noticeable after a few cuts.
Wouldn't you want to do this in one motion, like start at the bottom of the stone and go across the length of the blade while moving stone in one fluid motion and doing it the same number of times on both sides of the blade... I feel like grinding back and forth at random in all directions you'll get an uneven edge on your blade.
Going to give it a try , I started out with the Lansky system in the very early 80's and went to their deluxe Diamond system within the next few years or so.
It looks like a pretty solid budget option for a clamp system, but I think if you someone who owns several higher end knives, or dozens lol, than the KME is the way to go. As soon as you put your hands on one you just know why. I feel like there's to many parts on the lansky that would fail or allow for it to move off angle overtime as wear starts. You really dont wanna do knives over 5 or 6 inches on clamp systems because the angle changes the further out you go, though in reality the only people that small change would bother are the ones who would spend hundreds of dollars on a knife.
i see there is some flex in it, knife moves a little, that will make the angle a bit inconsistent. had that problem on another cheap sharpener. will look for a better setup, thanks for the video :)
When using these do you use pressure on both strokes or just the one. Trying to sharpen a cleaver so it's like a razor for cooking out in the woods. So it's a slicer rather than a chopper as the high profile blade is safer to use against fingers
It looks like you could do even longer blades then your large knife if you clamp in the middle of the blade & swing the arm out evenly on both sides. I use a Wicked Edge & I love it, but for the money this looks like a great system! I have the Work Sharp Knife and Tool Sharpener as well, which I use on kitchen knives & it's very effective. I think Work Sharp makes quality stuff for good prices. Even though I own a Wicked Edge, I may have to check out this sharpener. Thanks for the video! 😃
You’re right, clamping in the middle of the blade is best. Stand by itself gets unstable with larger knives. But you can always clamp the stand and wouldn’t be an issue.
How ist the angle supposed to be constant? I mean you could set 15° and it would be totally different with a wide and tall knife than with a small and thin one. That‘s some inconsistency in the angle. Of course you get everything sharp. But the angle shown is not correct. If you need to eyeball the angle all the time you can just practice on a simple whetstone.
You can you a degree app on a phone or a degree tool This is a fool proof sharpener, there are many other sharpeners that use this type and angles are the same
Just got one today and I think it’s a ridiculously good sharpener for 50-60 dollars. I’ve used a wicked edge before and tho it’s not comparable, this thing is pretty quality
Yes. The jaws work incredibly well, even on ffg blades. Seems they benchmarked the kme jaw system when designing, and I think they have jaws that are superior to those on the kme
guys don't make mistakes and buy this sharpner. I got my first one replaced under warranty because a plastic joint broke. My friend got a KME 10 years ago and it's still working, because that's quality. Plastic parts won't last, I would highly advise you to consider buying a more durable metal System Like KME oder TSProf. Because you will buy it later down the road anyway, it's always the same thought process. Doesn't matter if it's worksharp, Lansky, Ruixin, or these countless drag-through sharpners. I had them all. They aren't build to last. Either buy KME /TS Prof / Wicked Edge and decent knifes or buy no sharpner and cheap throw away knifes. Buying cheap chinese things isn't worth it. Believe me or keep blowing money on cheap crap.
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Can you sharpen a tanto blade
@@dmertz3856 i have a strider tanto , we too i wonder how to proceed sharpening a tanto
@living Survival , are you able to sharpen a tanto man ?
@Palpatine your on the wrong side of the force so shut up lol ;)
@@markhamilton3215 yes
This comment is for the people not sure about buying this. Let me help you pull the trigger. As a knife guy myself I've had knives get dull and being to scared to sharpen myself I would just move on to another knife. The first knife I ever sharpened myself was with this system, it was razor sharp and I've gotten better and better. This thing is a lifesaver for people who are scared to use a whetstone or think they can't sharpen, I was the same way now I get mirror polished razor sharp edges of my knives now. Buy this!!!
🇺🇸 Rah, Thanks Rob 🤘🍀
What are good techniques for sharpening?
Tried to sharpen my EDC pocket knife with a Dremel and butchered it. This knife sharpener brought my edge back.
To get the angle adjustment, how about putting a layer of black marker (Sharpie) on the blade edge? Then use the fine stone and make one or two light passes and see where the Sharpie is rubbed off.
How has no one seen this comment !!! Literally the best comment
Paper cut test before the sharpening would have been nice.
Paper cut test after the sharepening would be usefull....
@@markhamilton3215 He did at 6:36; but honestly there's no point. You know it's going to work. It's a controlled-angled sharpener lol. You really can't mess it up unless you try.
About time a budget sharpener of this style has come out. It’s on my wishlist!
Lanskey has been around and cheap since forever
It's finally here. Not 8 or 9 hundered dollars. I will buy this one.
@@mountainbikerdave yeah dmt has had one forever as well.
Thought the exact same thing. I’m watching this video a little late. Which means, I just ordered one. 😀
@@mountainbikerdave lanskey seem to be a better system also
That’s one of the best angle guide sharpening systems I have seen to date.
Worksharp never ceases to amaze me with their various sharpening systems. I own 3 so far and counting....
Just received mine and just sharpened my first knife and can’t believe it is incredibly sharp and stropped it to razor sharp!
Very nice setup, looks like a well thought out system! Definitely a Lansky killer, but to compete with higher end sharpeners e.g. the KME they would need a much wider variety of stones. But at this price it is a great kit to get into fixed angle sharpening and get nice working edges on your knives.
Correct. It’s not going to be quite as versatile as a Wicked Edge or KME BUT doesn’t have the price tag either.
I bet ya, you could cut one of those Edge Pro polishing tapes to size and stick it on that ceramic stone with no problems. That would definitely expand the capability a bit.
@@AjiraKimberly or just rubber band practically any stone to the arm.
I was thinking that they could release an "Upgrade stone" that has 220,800 and and a leahter strop, like their Guided sharpening system! :D
I'd hold any bet that in some time there will be one or two expansion kits. One with higher grit diamond stones and a leather strop, maybe with a 1500 diamond stone, a leather strop and a ceramic stone for cerrated blades, and maybe a second set, similar but with a longer rod for bigger blades.
They are a company that has to make money, and I know some people that would pay some dough for a "complete" system with, say, a long and a standard rod, the standard stone and a second one as described.
Or some bucks for the second stone plus another few for a longer rod.
It's like having a Lansky, you start buying the ceramic stone for cerrations plus 2 or three diamond stones not long after you have the original Lansky set.
For starters this sharpener is looking like it would do a good job for most of the knifes you have as it comes.
I strop my knifes anyway after sharpening, using green compound. In my opinion a well done 600 grit diamond stone leaves a nicer scratch pattern than a 600 grit normal stone does.
Otherwise I would love to have an additional 1000 or 1200 grit diamond stone, tho.
I will get one for sure because it looks a lot better than my lanksy. I hope the come out with more stone though.
I must agree it’s better than the lansky especially the clamp system. Only drawback is lack of stone choices. But I would by it again in a second. Well worth the fifty some dollars.
@@bluuper321 check on eBay. There is someone who makes lapping films.
@@JLuk98 thank you very much. Will do
Can’t wait I just ordered mine yesterday!! I’m not an experienced knife sharpener this makes it look so easy
How do you like it
This system looks incredibly thought out but they will need more stones for the people who like to have a bit of a mirror on the blade.
I’m sure they are planning on it.
Yeah, this looks really nicely made. But, it looks like there is no flat on the arm to be able to place an angle finder on to really confirm the angle.
Chop up progressively finer sandpaper and stick it to the stones. You can get insanely high grit sandpaper. Then use a piece of newspaper and stropping compound. That will give you a mirror polish on this system, and keep with the inexpensive theme.
Tape sandpaper to the stones
Taytools 10-sheet polishing film* + Aleene's 29-2 Tack-It (both available on amazon) = insane mirror finish.
I apply a very thin layer of the tack-it glue to the ceramic stone from the work sharp precision sharpener, then cut little strips of the taytools polishing film and it sticks extremely well. I took my knives up to 8,000 grit, but the polishing film goes up to an insane 500,000 grit.
*the polishing film says it has a "pressure-sensitive adhesive", but it won't stick to the ceramic stone, hence the need for the glue.
Also, the instructions for the polishing film say to peel the back of the film, but there's nothing to peel. I spent an hour or so trying to peel it, so save yourself that headache lol
I need a favor please. I have very limited use of my left hand. Is there any way I could talk you into clamping the base and flipping, clamping and attaching the arm with just the right hand? It would be appreciated. Thanks.
So where in the video do you sharpen a DULL knife with this machine?
by the grinding sounds in the video, it sounds like he is getting the knife dull during the video.
I'm pretty sure that with grits at 320, 600, and ceramic, even Gilligan could sharpen a dull knife.
@@silkytp789 Not with this machine.
@@ahndeux Is that a fact, or is that your opinion? Seriously. How did you come to the conclusion that it won't sharpen a dull knife? Assuming a reasonable definition of dull, I mean a butter knife is dull...
@@silkytp789 Just listen to the sound... That is not how you sharpen a knife. I sharpen all my knife on Suehiro debado whetstones. That sound you hear is grinding away at the edges at a very rough grit.
Thank the RUclips gods for recommending me this video! cant wait for them to be available for purchase.
dude I ordered mine today, said it will take a few weeks to deliver
@@wowguy3562 just ordered mine should be here in December
Definitely gotta get me one of these!
me too can't beat the price
I just ran across your comment, did you have any luck with it? I'm still looking for an America (or Canadian) made product. this is chinese crap and the abrasive selection isn't good. Just what china had to offer in the manufacturing process. ceramic rarely works, has to be the right material, and all their diamond abrasives are too course. I'm thinkin about making one, the wet stone is a pain in the ass to me. I am diehard about not buying chinese crap. I'll send you one if I come up with anything good. I can make a few as easily as one. I have a machine shop, thats how I know so much about abrasive machining. Thanks for your video's by the way:)
Can’t actually believe you sharpened a scandi mora and a bk7 on this system I am definitely sold on this system !
Thanks for the demo. Curious to see mods with higher grit stones/tapes to get a mirror edge. Will pick one up and test as well👍🏼
This sharpener really works great! It is like getting a new knife! I highly recommend. This is the best product I have purchased in years!
How can you be sure you clamp the knife at the same angle on both sides.
If you really want to make sure use a degree app on a phone and put it on the rod
I ordered one just now, the link you provided shows $49.95 as of November 13, not 59 like you stated, that seems like a killer deal to me. I really like the review. I have a whetstone thats super smooth (2000+) that honestly I don't have the patiences to put on a decent cutting edge, if I had a 240 to 300 grit stone I would see results much faster. I will update after I get the sharpener
Great deal!
I like this system! And it's from a company that's trusted in sharpening systems. Gonna get one!
I tried mine out today. Pretty good. My biggest complaint is there is only 3 grits. 320, 600 and fine ceramic which seems like a 1200. Too big of a jump between grits. It does keep a consistent angle, though. Glad it doesn’t cost more the $50. Any more without more grits I would not recommend it.
I am amending this review. Worked on a couple knives and in looking at the edge under magnification, there is no way you can get the scratches out with the fine stone after the 600. Without more grits I would NOT recommend this system. With more grits, I would recommend it. Easy enough for Worksharp to fox. Just offer a second three sided stone with some graduations in grits after 600.
They do offer more grits now plus a sharpener for serrated sections. 14 grits in all and a case. Price goes to $80
Just bought one off of blade hq just before they sold out, can’t wait to start
another Lansky variant. any stone upgrade pack? ie finer grit ect
Looks like blade hq has one
finally a great sharpener without a premium price tag! 👍🏼
try lansky its better than this
@@bigsean2473 the Lansky only has like 3 or 4 angles of adjustment. It's not infinitely adjustable. You have to move the blade in/out of the clamp to get on the same angle, or you have to power through and remove way more steel than necessary. The Lansky is kind of a poor system.
That looks like a well done budget friendly take on the KME design. Nice! I might have to start recommending this one.
I just got this for Christmas 🎄 and found the key to getting it really sharp is knocking that bur off at the end with leather.
I studied the various sharpening jigs a while ago, and picked this one. It really does work! I don’t know if it can produce the best possible edge, but it does certainly produce a good one.
When you 'touch it up by hand' doesn't this negate the angle adjustment feature?
You’re finding the correct angle by eye balling it? The sharpie trick is a proven method to find the right angle. Using an angle cube to make sure your angles are correct on both sides otherwise you get an uneven bevel. Seems like a good beginner system but limiting to 3 grits is odd. I wonder if they are going to release additional “rods” with higher grit diamonds? Either way it’s a good beginner system to learn how to sharpen on a fixed angle system
Yep, and by feel.
@@livingsurvival ya if that’s your method then your bevels will never be even. I guess when you’re “sharpening” an already sharp knife then that’s not an issue but when you are sharpening a dull knife those bevels will be uneven. It’s easiest to find the factory angle by using the sharpie trick then your removing less steel and spending less time sharpening.
@@overlandedc if you’re using a coarse grit on a dull knife you are removing enough steel to essentially re-bevel the knife. And using a system like this ensures it will be even on both sides.
@@livingsurvival I think you mean re-profile. 600 grit can also re-profile depending on the steel. Re-profiling is just changing the angle. I've used many systems like this. KME, Viper Sharp, Lansky so I speak from experience that regardless if their angle guides say 25 degrees, you should always verify using an angel cube and the sharpie trick.
@@overlandedc I guess when my eyes give out I’ll need to go that route. One pass and I can see where the stone is hitting the knife. No different than vanishing sharpie. I’ve used sharpie many times when starting out.
Looks like a great system for relatively cheap! How does the clamp handle flat ground blades? With the Wicked Edge you have to get creative to secure flat ground blades in the clamp, then use an angle cube to make sure it's not caddywampus. Otherwise you end up sharpening at a different angle on each side of the blade.
Cattywampus; it's derived from the nickname for mountain lions ("Wampus Cat"), not a toter of golf clubs....
@@Tenskwatawa4U you have no idea how much I appreciate this knowledge!
Waiting for mine to deliver… only a few stops away…can’t wait!
So, how does the angle measurement work? Its an illogical setting as the dimensions of the blade itself change the angle. Its also not possible for the blade to have the same angle from the tip to the heel
I just ordered one. I’ve got a few m390s and 20cv blades that are too nice to free hand on the worksharp belt sharpener. I see they have upgrades for this system too. Prolly some better stones… I’m amped to hone my ferrum forge knives I’ve neglected carrying them cause they r a pain to resharpen. My para 2 wharnie has been my daily cause it’s easy to resharpen on the sharpmaker. The wharncliffes are easier get honed I feel. I have 4-5 nice blades in need of edges. And also. Considered stone washing some blades I just didn’t have a actual sharpener so this will come in handy
Worksharp went outside the box when they designed this...it's GREAT!!
Great review.
Good you showed different knives and styles of blade.
Especially you showed the thicker knife.
Thats one thing that was hard to find out (if it could handle big knives with thick blades.)
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Price on Amazon link is 119.00. I hate how Amazon allows people to charge huge prices on new products.
The KME has a knurled bar on the back of it's scissor accessory. I don't know it's diameter. Trying to find out if that knurled bar would fit in the clamp of the Work Sharp clamp?
Will it take a small blade - like a swiss army knife? My Lanksy won't hold the blade properly, and the stones can't touch it anyway because it doesn't stick out enough from the clamp.
I would use a sharpie marker on the edge of the blade to judge your angle setting is correct for the particular knife you’re sharpening. Takeoff the marker in a uniform pattern and you know you have the proper angle set on the sharpener.
Thank you for the great vid!
I had bought one, was afraid to use and your video walked me through the whole thing without a hitch!
Thanks for watching.
I'm interested in how this thing works in terms of reprofiling. Knocking it down a few degrees. Same method as usual...Do so until you feel a burr on the underside, then flip it over and do so on the other side? Seems if you're chasing a burr, the constant flipping of the blade would be a bit of a pain?
That's a winner and finally a great sharpener at a great price
I do hope they bring out some additional finer stones for this.
Stick any grit wet/paper to the coarse stone I won’t need that one! Then you can go 10,000 grit if u like 😅
@@MrAndrewholde good thinking man
Had to hold the apparatus the entire time... that's not good. also heavier knife was moving ... I like it and want to try it but seems very flimsy
It can be clamped. It’s made for kitchen knives on down.
I've always preferred the less bulky Lansy systems. I find a massive ergonomic improvement over edge pro style systems because I hold the knife by the handle, and hold the stone just like I would free hand sharpen, but I use the system to help guide the angle.
"Massive"? I don't know about it being a "massive" improvement.
So would the Sharpe trick be a good idea on this system ? Looks like different blade heights would cause the angle to change. I ordered on today, that's why I'm asking.
Of course it would work. Sighting along the edge, like he did in the video, also gets you pretty close.
I’ve been wanting this thing for the past few months now but I hadn’t been able to find one in stock.luckily,when I was checking out DLT Tradings new products earlier,they finally got some of these in stock so I went ahead and ordered it..I had been wanting a sharpener like this for several years but couldn’t bring myself to buy a KME,much less the more expensive ones..I’ve had a Lansky for a while now and it’s decent but the Lansky I bought didn’t come with the diamond stones so it’s a pain in the ass when go to sharpen knives in higher end steels like M390,20CV,S35VN,S110V,etc..I also have the Work Sharp field sharpener which is a great little sharpener but I’m definitely not the most skilled at knife sharpening so I usually just use it on some of my cheaper as well as some of my kitchen knives,mostly for practice..I certainly don’t trust my extremely amateur sharpening skill with my Microtech,Spyderco,Benchmade,etc knives...needless to say,I’m excited I was finally able to score this sharpener,can’t wait till it comes in
I've got this on the way I've got a wicked edge in the shop wanted this for in the house hope to receive my three orders by Christmas ✌Thanks for the excellent offerings !!
Happy Holidays !!!
You seem to be sharpening on both up and down stroke. I was under the impression that you should only sharpen on the up stroke. Am I incorrect?
From watching videos of many pro knife sharpeners they use the push and pull method as well.
You can do both. I have my own thoughts on this though. Larger carbide steels might want to only do push. Carbides are easily pulled out and you’ll see things like d2 dull faster. That’s from observation not from any actual scientific research.
I believe you are supposed to center the blade in the clamp. So a 4 inch blade, you want to have it clamped at the 2 inch mark.
Is there something for blades with a concave curve, like a karambit.
Not at the moment you can look at lansky
This thing blows the spyderco sharp maker out of the water and it’s a fraction of the cost! Thanks for the quick lesson, the instructions that came with it are a little confusing but once you know how to use it your good to go! Do you know if you can purchase just the stones by themselves? Great video thanks again.
I've used the Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharpmaker for years and I've had pretty good luck with it but it took a long time to develop the right muscle memory to use it right. My son has no patience and has a hard time with it. 😆 I do want another sharpener though with more degrees and the ability to reset an edge. For $60 it seems this is an absolute steal. I looked at the manufacturer video on Amazon to see how they recommend sharpening and it's totally different than this guy does. This guy is hacking back and forth on the same side of the blade which makes me cringe. He may have sharp knifes but they will dull easier because he's not doing it right. Anyway, thanks for letting me know I'll pick one up. 👍
You can sharpen more things on that though you can only sharp knives on this
Thanks for the review!!! Hard to tell but did you actually sharpen your mora to a skandi on this? Its looks like you just put a regular edge on it? just curious because I want this for my Skandi Knives.
Nice video. I have a precision adjust too and use it for most of my knives. You should be able to preserve the original scandi grind on most mora knives by maxing your precision adjustment all the way down. If you prefer the micro bevel I get that too but from experience you can get a good scandi grind pretty damn sharp! Once you put the micro bevel on a mora it’s a lot of work to get it flat again too.
Wow! I’ll be getting this for sure. Along with the strops I just bought this will work wonders for my blades!
Seems like if you don’t get the blade locked in the exact same way every time could give you different angles. Also seem like you need to know the manufactures factory angle or you’ll be off.
Is it me or does this tool seem like there may cause a lot of issues getting the exact desired angle. Also wouldn’t the blade tallness effect your angle since all knives aren’t the same height? You would probably have to use the angle on the guide then actually measure your angle because I bet it’s off. I’m curious it looks nice but I just have a lot of concerns.
You a totally right but you can simple use a angle pp on a phone and fix the desired angle you want
Howdy, nice video. Not too sure the dimensions of the last knife you used? But use bowies like the buck knives 184 buckmaster and buck 916. Largest would be the down under outback? If i could not use the rod, would you think this sharpener would be stable enough to hand sharpen? Right now i use my rockwell jawhorse to sharpen my knives.
The price is good. I been using the Viper sharp for a while. Great review!
Is the viper sharp still using proprietary stones??
That's the single turn off I had.
Great review and I’m really interested in getting this sharpener but been looking on Amazon and can’t to seem to find it thought I seen a release date of Nov 1 any idea when it would come out?
November 15 available on Amazon and others.
ordered mine on amazon today but said will take a few weeks to arrive, 49 bucks
Are they available to buy now and how many stones come with it.
ordered mine today for 49.95 using the link above, he said in the video it was 59 I hope this helps
buy a lansky its a better system
With vise style sharpeners you should also try to center the blade also, it's important I sharpen on a we 130.
If he put a marker line on the knife you would see his bevel is way off after
Best money I ever spent. I can sharpen all my knives with ease
So doing a full size chef knife you’re not gonna be able to do it with us knife sharpener is that correct?
Hi
What are the sharpeners made of? They look like knife sharpeners.
Nice review. Looks like a budget KME. KME may have to lower their prices now...
I like that things are held in place with magnets. Even though a lot of it is plastic, it doesn't seem to be cheap; just better set up for mass production than the KME.
They should make an accessory triple hone for it, containing: Super Coarse, Super fine and a strop.
Might want to point out that, since the stones are diamond, a very light pressure is all that's needed. More is just going to knock the tiny diamonds off the stone.
4:36 - Using water on the stones will keep them from loading up with steel dust and make sharpening quicker. (but messier)
I want to put a Hair splitting edge on the front part of my blade and a working edge on the rear of the blade .. Will be able to get those edges with this sharpener ??
Very helpful video, thank you. Can this system sharp Brad and Steak knifes?
You don't seem to worry about getting a burr on the edge . Is this because this way of sharpening doesn't need a burr ?
Really wish I knew about this before I got the Lansky. Though the limited amount of stone grit is a bit of an issue. And not just for those if us who like to put a nice mirror polish on our edges but for reprofiling the edge, fixing damage, or sharpening harder and higher end steels as well. Like I know it's not super common but a reliable and yet still affordable system that could sharpen Maxamet would be awesome.
u think this is better than lansky?
@@bigsean2473 if you factor out all the accessories for the lansky...and just look at ease of use and precision...then an outstanding yes.
I would bet the farm that accessories are coming.
It does have some nice features but didn’t seem like you hit the heal or tip on that first blade. I’ll stick to stones and a strop. Once you learn to hold the angle on stones they are hard to beat.
Yea their amazing just bought my lansky system today and a few extra stones on the higher grit get all diamond stones if your looking for one.
How do you keep from sharpening in one spot too much? Looks like it would be really easy to hit one spot more than another and create high and low spots in the blade.
I go back and forth a few times then before switching sides I do a few smooth swipes. You can feel where it might need work when you’ve sharpened a lot.
I own one of these and it is OK. The plastic flexes and moves around while you are working which is annoying. Keep a very close eye on your angle because as you work that thing will move around on its own as well. It does work but there may be better options out there.
Why do I need this device when with one of the knives you took the tri-sided sharpening thing off and did it by hand unguided, so why not just buy several different grit rods or stones and do it by hand and save some money?
Hello, I noticed that when you went to the Mora, you failed to check the edges angle as from manufacturer to manufacturer all edge angles are different! Just sayin'! Thanks, sincerely Randy. 🙏🏻😇👊
That's cool. Nice review, thanks. I'm tempted to get it, but I alreay have a worksharp guided WSGSS, which I'm not that happy with. Thinking of learning stone sharpening, or perhaps a system like this to get better results than I'm getting. What's your thoughts?
stone system are better because they take less mental then the sander types. the stone system get a sharper edge. I have both types the functional difference is not noticeable after a few cuts.
Wouldn't you want to do this in one motion, like start at the bottom of the stone and go across the length of the blade while moving stone in one fluid motion and doing it the same number of times on both sides of the blade... I feel like grinding back and forth at random in all directions you'll get an uneven edge on your blade.
How well does it sharpen smaller knives, say, a traditional slip-joint?
Going to give it a try , I started out with the Lansky system in the very early 80's and went to their deluxe Diamond system within the next few years or so.
Does it handle a clever size knife, like the Almazan knife?
For folding and kitchen knives.
Make sure u are getting a burr from heel to tip and are getting the very apex of the edge
Seems like it would hsve trouble with the harder steels because of the limited and higher grits. You'd be sharpening all day.
It has 320. That is almost too coarse, unless it's super dull, even for super steels.
It looks like a pretty solid budget option for a clamp system, but I think if you someone who owns several higher end knives, or dozens lol, than the KME is the way to go. As soon as you put your hands on one you just know why. I feel like there's to many parts on the lansky that would fail or allow for it to move off angle overtime as wear starts. You really dont wanna do knives over 5 or 6 inches on clamp systems because the angle changes the further out you go, though in reality the only people that small change would bother are the ones who would spend hundreds of dollars on a knife.
Yeah none of that edge science bothers me. I get them sharp and use them.
"trying" to sharpen my Zwilling Pro Santoku Knife but it doesnt seem like it's working OR I'm not being patient enough. What am I doing wrong??
Maybe angle not low enough. Try 15-20 degrees
i see there is some flex in it, knife moves a little, that will make the angle a bit inconsistent. had that problem on another cheap sharpener. will look for a better setup, thanks for the video :)
When using these do you use pressure on both strokes or just the one. Trying to sharpen a cleaver so it's like a razor for cooking out in the woods. So it's a slicer rather than a chopper as the high profile blade is safer to use against fingers
I don’t find it matters which way you go. Removing metal either way.
@@livingsurvival so it's fine to do on both up and down strokes. 👍.
$59 bucks? Please tell us where? I found one for $119.00?? Double what you mentioned. thanks
It looks like you could do even longer blades then your large knife if you clamp in the middle of the blade & swing the arm out evenly on both sides.
I use a Wicked Edge & I love it, but for the money this looks like a great system! I have the Work Sharp Knife and Tool Sharpener as well, which I use on kitchen knives & it's very effective. I think Work Sharp makes quality stuff for good prices. Even though I own a Wicked Edge, I may have to check out this sharpener.
Thanks for the video! 😃
You’re right, clamping in the middle of the blade is best. Stand by itself gets unstable with larger knives. But you can always clamp the stand and wouldn’t be an issue.
A lot of patience & elbow grease required for these types of sharpeners
How ist the angle supposed to be constant?
I mean you could set 15° and it would be totally different with a wide and tall knife than with a small and thin one.
That‘s some inconsistency in the angle.
Of course you get everything sharp. But the angle shown is not correct.
If you need to eyeball the angle all the time you can just practice on a simple whetstone.
You can you a degree app on a phone or a degree tool
This is a fool proof sharpener, there are many other sharpeners that use this type and angles are the same
I am looking for something similar that can be put inside a bugout bag. I doesn't have to be super small and it has to keep the angle for me.
Lansky has a simmilar system that is more compact
I'd like to buy it but, it's not showing up in your Amazon link??
Is now.
Just got one today and I think it’s a ridiculously good sharpener for 50-60 dollars. I’ve used a wicked edge before and tho it’s not comparable, this thing is pretty quality
It seems to work well for the money. I agree.
A great tutorial thank you. With the blade holder being plastic and metal, does it get a really good hold on the knife?
Thanks
Yes. The jaws work incredibly well, even on ffg blades.
Seems they benchmarked the kme jaw system when designing, and I think they have jaws that are superior to those on the kme
Looks really cool I ordered one last night and wanted to see it in action....good video
Looks like a very useful system. Still might need a freehand leather strop afterward. Some steels are a pain to deburr.
Thats what the ceramic stone is for.
Like the product but how do I know it's actually sharpening without a before and after paper test.....
You can see the difference in scratches from grit to grit
And you need to make a burr Simple basics of sharpening
guys don't make mistakes and buy this sharpner. I got my first one replaced under warranty because a plastic joint broke. My friend got a KME 10 years ago and it's still working, because that's quality. Plastic parts won't last, I would highly advise you to consider buying a more durable metal System Like KME oder TSProf. Because you will buy it later down the road anyway, it's always the same thought process.
Doesn't matter if it's worksharp, Lansky, Ruixin, or these countless drag-through sharpners. I had them all. They aren't build to last. Either buy KME /TS Prof / Wicked Edge and decent knifes or buy no sharpner and cheap throw away knifes.
Buying cheap chinese things isn't worth it. Believe me or keep blowing money on cheap crap.