Lotus Exige S vs Porsche 911 997 GT3 vs Supercharged BMW M3 E92 - Track Car Triple Test
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2019
- What would you do if you had access to a quiet track, and three sublime track cars? Obviously, this
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Great comparison, nice to see the little Lotus sticking it to the big guns. Low power, low weight, enjoy it on road, enjoy it on track, run it for cheap, and it actually fits in your garage!
Cool to see you back in a lotus James,you realise that these are your soul mate cars don't you???you look and sound at home... Time for another????
i realize I'm kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to watch newly released series online?
Great to have you back in a Lotus, more please
JayEmm: **brakes in the Lotus**
Dogs nearby: **bleed from ears**
Lotus!
Every single time !
❤️🤪
Jesus I love those things
Great review, proud to be an S2 Exige owner.. ❤️
Can you daily one? I think this'll be the decider between if I get one or an elise sport 220
Brad_0 Get an Exige if you can.
They are rarer and more purposeful looking.
One of my favourite vids so far. Great to see genuine reactions from each of the cars. I knew the Lotus would give the most grin factor. I absolutely loved owning my 240👍
What a fun video, looked a glorious day to be on track and yes I think we all agree you need a new Lotus to play with:)
After watching this several times, it is quite apparent which marque still pulls your heart strings. Time to get back to Lotus. And if you do and buy an S2 Exige of this vintage, I'll share how I set up the Exige you drove so very well at Watkins Glen last season. Great video, James - throughly enjoyed it... Just spectacularly well done... And oh - nice Porsche Club Northeast Region USA Instructor shirt... ;) Just sayin'... ;)
Glad to see a Lotus back on the channel
Good work. Much enjoyed, cheers!
Great video Jay. Well balanced comparison.
Thanks for the review, really good work - i can agree with your comments. the GT3 isnt as torquey as you think it should be and its long legged but the induction noise is great.
Great Video! Very honest, and great impressions on the differences between the three cars. I guess in an ideal world you'd have all three flavours!
Your best video to date JM. Great to see you enjoying a track day so much. Cool cars. Very different but am fun and fast.
What a wonderful video. I am getting a 2008 Solar Yellow Exige next week. This really has me stoked.
You know the Lotus is the best in driver experience. Now go buy another one!!
Good video mate. 👍
the top 3 cars that i want to have in my garage...how has it taken so long to see this video!
Man I always liked Lotuses. Too bad the only car available here in PR is the Evora(which I also love). I wish I can get a 2zz Elise at some point in my life. Your reaction to that Exige is priceless. I envy your fun.
Welcome Home JayEmm!
Great review. I own a 2008 Lotus Elise SC and a 2007 Porsche GT3. Best of both worlds.
Enjoyable video!
Cheers Lew
Thanks for this, James! I think I enjoyed the Lotus the most. Funny how an Exige and your modified M3 are about the same price..
You sound a bit like Alan Partridge in places.
I’m buying another Lotus this year end of story.
S2 Exige is such a good value for the amount of fun it brings.
sick video
Always honest rewies👍
OMG!
Just watched the video again!
That Lotus ❤️🤪
Excellent video!!! I love all three cars very much but I think we can all agree that the Lotus is the best even with so little power. I wonder what would happen on a larger power band...
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Hey JAY! Can we get some updates on the 350 ZED ?
Can’t believe how long legged that Porsche gearing is, on the road you’d only use 1st and 2nd gears 🤣....but Just imagine what an Exige Roadster S would have been like round that track...truly glorious fun with the roof down :-)
Now, go and get another Lotus for goodness sake you know you want to
Great video. I know it's not the point of the video, but it would be very interesting see how much of a time difference these cars have around that track, to just you know put things into perspective.
I love the lotus i love that supercharger and the glorious sound from that Toyota 1.8L engine is that still as reliable whit that supercharger
The engines are built by Yamaha and are absolutely bulletproof really... I had a cup 240 and it made peak power at 8250rpm! Revs for days
@@Chrissy-H are they still as reliable as the 90s 00s one's
Neil Murphy I never had a series 1 car myself, but from what I heard the K-series engines in those had a habit of blowing head gaskets quite often. The Toyota engined cars are better for reliability I think.
@@Chrissy-H that's good
What exhaust on the exige s. Mine failed static at snetterton last Monday evening at 105db stage 2 lotus silencer.
You could put a badge on your shiny new CF bonnet. 👍🏻
Not many better cars for the track than Exige S if any.
Nothing out there drives as good as an Elige on a track. Nothing! Thanks for sharing.
What a day out! The perks of celebrity...😉
After the M3 Exhaust Noise was played my wife complained about being too loud :-D - You have no idea how that thing sounds to my speakers :-))))
I don't know how people put up with brakes squeaking like that. I would have to get them out and grease the pad backs etc up.
"shit it moves" ha-ha top line
The thing about lotus is you forget about it and when you drive one you forgot how great of a car it is
....LOTUS for the WIN.........
Can anything beat a Porsche GT car??? Is it possible? I don’t think so
Jay... I would never presume to tell you what to do but... RUclips is choc full of BMW content and nowhere near enough Lotus content... and you do Lotus content really well... so if, I may, please could you get another Lotus... PS, I run a BMW and I still would rather see a Lotus on here... or at east something as rare... love the channel either way mate..
Unfortunately Lotus decided to make creating Lotus content quite difficult, which is why you don't see as much of it anymore
Knew you'd jump in Lotus first!! So would I after Ive had a 2010 Exige S Performance 240 and then a V6 3.5 thereafter, kinda think 2010 was the better one, not overall but for fun and noise
You preferred the sound of the 2ZZ to the V6? That's a bit disappointing, I've never driven an S3 and was hoping it sounded better than me old S2.
@Jeb Swarf The 111R engine (or Exige S2 NA, I have one) is good but the stock gearing is catastrophic. Supercharging helps to hide that by adding mid range torque but it adds weight an removes the fun of the NA engine. You need at least a shorter final ratio to wake up the car. The best modification is shorter final gear + modified 3 and 4th ratios.
@Jeb Swarf I installed 4.8 ratio in my C64 in place of the way too long 4.5 stock. So problem solved :-)
According to Wiki, C64 stock final drive and gearing is the same for all cars it was installed in. Including the Corolla TS. The resultant gearing is shorter because tyre radius is smaller in the Corolla TS (195/55 16) than in the Lotus (225/45 17).
Lotus Exige...............
fellow looks like Stig's American cousin.
Which track is that?
Any comments on 997 GT3 vs 996 GT3? Steering better in 996?
Been too long since I drove a 996 GT3 to be honest about jt
Get another lotus dude, it’s the one that made you come alive...plus if you get one I can have a proper go
that mezger engine tho...
The steering feel thing with the gt3 is odd comment. I beleive it though. Lotus are very purpose built cars. So my thinking is why even then bother with an all in one like m3? idealy you want something light and small for good price like the lotus. And a daily that can go anywhere and fits your family/friends. So a lotus and defender would be a perfect combo.
The issue with the Lotus I would have is getting all of my stuff in it
@@JayEmmOnCars true very lil space to put stuff. Great videos btw man. Youre really honest about every car. That gt3 steering for example would NEVER EVERRR be said by a mainstream journalist. Proper shit my man. Hopefully your channel explodes.
Thanks Stefan, I hope so too
Lotus no doubt for that track, the GT3 could also be used, but the M3 is just to big and heavy for such track without long straights.
Cletus, if this is intended to be a satirical pastiche of the usual US semi-hysterical review, then it is brilliant. However, if you're being serious, it's terrible.🤔🤔🤔
Saw the m3 on ebay. A lot of car for the money. Good luck selling
Cheers, yeah it was a big build - by my maths the asking price is about what somebody has spent on it, not including buying the car
Those brakes 😂😂😂
There terrible
@@neilmurphy845 tell me about it :)
@@CharlieDrives they would have been better off putting on the factory brakes but i love the supercharger
Don't drive an Exige after driving a Noble M12.
Why?
@@aaa84gt It'll feel tame by comparison.
@@resnonverba137 The Exige will feel tame compared to the Noble? Wow, the Noble's are that good?
Sell the BMW, buy the Lotus and borrow the GT3 once in a while.
To Lotus willyriders .... I love lotus too , but putting a charged M3 and GT3 on a such a small track that suits Exige is never going to be a fair comparison . Do same test at Silverstone and we'll talks later.
Nobody is saying that the Lotus would win in a race. Comments are on experience and fun, rather than.. your car is faster than mine.
420 hp
911
THE CENTRIFUGAL DOES NOT AT ALL JUST ENHANCETHE NATURAL CHARACTER OF THE E92. This cut deep hearing you perpetuatethat ignorance.
Feel free to explain how I am wrong, but I have the dyno graphs of my car before and after, and I've driven enough of them, it seems to do just that to me
JayEmm on Cars Yea you’re not alone, supercharging has long been referred to in that way, centrifugals shouldn’t be included especially for high revving Motors as it’s just a turbo that’s compromised to make for easier install/packaging. If it enhanced the natural character the dyno chart would look more or less identical, the shape of the curve unchanged, just higher numbers, like a proper e92 with a proper supercharger results in. Power delivery and character is unchanged, you just get more power at lower revs/less throttle. The centrifugal completely alters the torque curve and makes it look like the power curve, it looks like you’d expect a single turbocharged e92 tunes for up top power to look because that’s what it is in effect.
I have no issue if people want to take a historic motor that’s loved for its high power flat torque curve and make it behave like something else. I don’t understand it but hey, what I don’t get is how completely altering the nature of the engine and it’s behavior is somehow enhancing its natural character.
I know it seems pedantic but yea
The torque curve on this car is very flat, and the power is totally linear, it doesn't look remotely like a turbo curve
This is nothing like a turbocharged car. The torque is obviously lacking low down and it is not suffering lag. It is obviously acting just as a supercharger does but adding a bit everywhere but mainly at the top end, the opposite of a turbo.