10 Ways to Know It's BAD LAND
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Wayne Turner explains real estate in its simplest form so everyone can understand it. In this episode, he shares the 10 checkpoints that prevent anyone from getting stuck with a piece of property that doesn't work for them. Most importantly Wayne shows you exactly how to know if the land is good for you.
If you are buying land you need a checklist to ensure nothing gets overlooked and that is exactly what you get with many of Wayne's videos so, as you always hear Wayne says, Grab and Pen and paper...You're going to want to take notes.
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Always due a title search!
ALWAYS!
You should go into buying land with the attitude that everyone is trying to rip you off.
A suspicious mind will help keep you from getting scammed!
(I know this hard lesson from previous experience!)
And buy an owners title insurance policy too.
I grew up in Florida and my dad always told me that if you see pollen rings on the bottom of trees then you are buying a swamp.
1. Clear Title
2. Survey + walk
3. Encroachments ?
4. Water / sewer / power ?
Is it in a flood zone?
@@gloriagibb-zs4seafter Katrina folks have moved away from those zones only to find themselves underwater, again. This is call weather warfare/manipulation used by the military industrial complex.
Deed restriction
Busy traffic pattern on streets adjoining land
land locked
my niece bought property in Az to homestead on and after buying, found out the can't put up a fence because someone has grassing rights to their property. They didn't read the fine print. Cows can wander on their place and eat as they please, not good when you want a garden.
grassing rights?! lmao wtf
@@mlothyan8154 Ya, there are some really old weird laws in western states.
Grazing rights is what he means.
Free beef
It probably says that no permanent fences may be erected, however, what about a 'temporary' electric fence?
I bought my first house in a decent subdivision. I never considered the high speed rail that Amtrak used to go to NY .2 miles from my house. The first night I slept in it, a train doing 79 miles an hour laid on the horn for 3 bursts at 3:30 AM. I jumped completely out of my bed from the vibrations and sound!😂 my heart was beating a mile a minute!
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I skipped buying an adorable house because it was so close to the freeway. Sure enough, the state condemned it for an updated onramp in the next two years.
You'll have to add sound insulation in the walls and double glazed windows to minimise sound intrusions
Dang bub
That should have been disclosed to you
Mineral rights ARE as important as buying the land ! U want to own all. U don't want fracking to be done either ! ! !
Don't forget timber rights and now water rights
Buddy you sure as HELL want fracking to be done! Those wells will make you a millionaire for having them on your land for 10 years. After that, they remove them and you can't even tell there was a well there.
@danlorett2184 he is talking about getting the mineral rights, so HE wouldn't be a millionaire. That's not how it works. My uncle had 300 acres, he ran cattle, he didn't realize he didn't have mineral rights. One day the gas company showed up and explained that they now had legal rights to go through his field with giant trucks and equipment, drill a gas well, tear up the hay field, tear up the grazing pasture and put in a loud LOUD whatever the hell it was. He made $0. They had to reimburse him for 1 fence at the end of 6yrs. You don't know what you're talking about
@@danlorett2184 first of all , fracking is when they drill underground into your property from a nearby property. Get straight !
@@Raymond-l4w That's not fracking. That's horizontal drilling.
Timber rights.. big thing in CA and OR, at least. Be lousy to buy a beautiful piece of forest just to have the trees' owner come clear cut them a few years later.
In arkansas also. Plus mineral and water rights
One thing I would look at is are you allow to have rainwater harvesting. That is especially important out west when wells are unreliable and there is no city water.
More communities are cracking down on that I think OR permits it for sure, some people can do it in CA I think not sure.
Why would rain water harvesting be prevented?
@@Dweeble233 Government Power.
@@felixyusupov7299 I have relied on rainwater for 100 percent of my domestic water needs since 1997. I don't know if it's legal or not. I don't care either. My house looks like a postage stamp on a pool table compared to my property size...so plenty of mud and mosquitos are left over after a rain. This area has nearly zero "green" thinking. It's drill baby drill types.
@@Dweeble233 I know rain water harvesting is or was illegal in Lyons, Colorado. The logic is that someone else already owns that water. I disagree. I think if fall on your property and you can hold it on your property it should be yours to keep.
#12 - if there is an HOA, there will be someone that will will make your life a living hell.
You are so very right.
Not necessarily so. Some people have no manners. Those people need hoas
@@tomdixon1213 Some HOAs have no manners... I'll take my chances with people over commie authoritarians any day. You can keep your HOA.
@@tomdixon1213 You can take care of that without any HOA - that increases fees every year. We need real men, not parasitic HOA's.
I looked at a free-standing house awhile back in an HOA. They told me that my garage doors have to remain down at all times and no one was allowed to park in my driveway overnight. I said, "no thank you." Oh, by the way, the houses were starting at about $350,000 and the HOA monthly fee was $400!
If you’re Plann on living on your property, make sure there aren’t any pig farms for miles around. They have huge cesspools, and spray liquified urine and feces on surrounding properties. Even if yours isn’t one of the sprayed properties, it’s aerosolized and can travel. The stench will drive you out of your home.
You're not wrong. Once you get near a pig farm, you never forget.
Could the cesspools possibly affect well water?
When you move to a rural property you have to be aware of ALL agriculture going on around you. That includes all the smells of livestock, spraying fertilizer and herbicides. It could mean slow moving farm machinery taking up both sides of the road moving from field to field; well water; heating with propane; plowing your own driveways and access roads; tractors with lights plowing and planting all night long in the Spring and harvesters and grain trucks rumbling down the road in the fall.
@@jshepard152My Great Uncle referred to that as the smell of money.
dairy farms are rather stinky too.
Be careful of unrecorded easements. Sometimes the locals use a road that goes through your property to access a favorite fishing spot or hunting area on land.. later you find out they’ve been doing this for a very long time which leads to an implied easement. Out west a compromise was met where certain locals can use the road.. Everybody uses the road you have issues with liability and garbage dumped, and safety
Yes, garbage dumping is a HUGE problems these days. Also dumping abandoned appliances, old cars, mattresses, you name it.
Wow, how to control that? We had guys coming on our property for deer hunting!! Because they always had!! I don’t think so! It cost a lot for the lawyer! The signs and posts and removing their deer blinds too!!
Yeah, that would have to stop immediately. If someone gets hurt on your property, they can and will sue you.
@@elizabethturel78 First thing you have to do is post the land. Put up no hunting\trespassing signs. Nothing can be done legally if the land is not posted first. Then put up trail cams to capture any violators. Next, contact police\game commission to file complaints. They won't make it a priority, but they will patrol the area from time to time and if they catch anyone on the property, they will cite them.
I heard someone who purchased a house in the woodsy suburbs.... Afterwards he found out that the Appalachian trail went through it or near it.... While that's kinda cool, I'm not sure he thought so.
Another thing about roads is what is the weekend use like. Are there motorcycle clubs using that road all weekend long. To some it’s enjoyable hearing them go by, for others not so much. A friend has a cabin in the mountains and doesn’t use it on weekends anymore because of all the noise.
1:51 pine trees just simply cannot tolerate wet feet for long periods of time so one of the best ways to tell if your property or potential property is prone to flooding is look for mature pine trees and if you see plenty of them you are good to go
Umm...not necessarily. Pines are certainly not suited for wet areas, but they are opportunistic and can be found thriving in wetlands. It's because of "pit and mound" micro topography. Aka flark and strang, knoll and hollows, hummocks, tussocks. Basically they live on mounds out of the areas prone to saturation or flooding. You have to be able to recognize such landscapes.
Like the 50 year old pine tree that a limb broke off last night and almost took my whole neighbor's house out? Pine trees suck. Every season of the year they are dropping something 😢
pine trees are all over Florida and wetlands are all over Florida 😆
We have mature pine trees right near a wash that floods every year..
@@susanwright4414 If the roots don't get enough oxygen the pines suffer more than most and in a very competitive enviroment that matters a lot so it's a general rule rather than a natural law. Other factors can effect the outcome and must be considered
Check flight lines of airports in the region, even if the airport is beyond the horizon or behind a hill or river.
It can be very stressful to have jet engines roaring 2000 ft above your house with the windows open.
I grew up near an airport. Nine days out of ten they didn’t fly over our house. When the weather changes they would fly right over.
Not to mention the toxins coming from the plane that can be polluting your ground and water.
Internet access is very important now that people are working from home. Some jobs require the cable coming straight to the building/home for clearances on certain jobs.
A friend built her dream home on a country lot. And a few months later, a cement plant went up next door. Trucks rumbling up and down the road 6 days a week.
That's a nightmare ugh
What do you have against trucks?
shes lucky.ahe can cement her land for a song.
@@JohnnyDanger36963Are you ok?
@@integr8er66I'm a truck driver and I wouldn't want to be that near trucks when I'm at home. Peace and quiet is what I like about being in a rural area.
Unless I misunderstood you at the 4:30 mark. I’ve been a septic guy for 40 yrs here, 9 outta 10 times you’re better off to have rocky land because it perks way better and you’ll have a lot better luck passing a perk test, it’s ground that has no rock(depending on the soil) that can get you into trouble with a perk test in which can be solved by going with an aerobic system in ground such as flat lands and or with clay. That’s why we gravel the lateral fields on septics because water flows through the rock or gravel faster without inundating the system. I’ve put systems in ground that were so rocky that you only needed a certain amount of laterals and hardly any rock.
Yes, I was wondering that. I have very rocky ground and higher elevation, but one of the few in my area that still has conventional septic.
Hey Wayne, with regard to deed restrictions should the realtor have the specific document outlining the restrictions or would that be filed with the county?
@@beckyforbis4858 when was it zoned originally and when was new zoning established, if any? Call the soning department for your County!
I've done a couple perk tests into rock that went to fast, ended up with an elevated mound or pumped sand pit.
@@daveditchdigger2111 Interesting. Your username caught my eye. Years ago I had an ole backhoe operator, we called him digger Dave.
Regarding mineral rights, this comes up in states where natural gas is common, like Pennsylvania. If you don't have the mineral rights, but someone else does, then that owner can set up a drilling rig on, or next to your property, and begin extraction. And you have no way to stop them. Often times, a property owner never obtained the mineral rights when they originally bought the property, and those rights could be tied up two, even three layers deep, depending on how many times the property has changed hands. Also, some states break things down even more, meaning you'll have mineral, oil and gas; all separate! (Looking at YOU, Pennsylvania!) Make sure you understand the breakdown in your location, or you can own the mineral rights, but a gas fracking company can still drill under your property line.
holy shit. i just learned A LOT from your comment. some jurisdictions break down resource rights to individual assets: mineral, gas, oil, timber. here's a new one: wind and sun. an entity selling energy cannot place a windmill within a specific distance from your property. solar farms cannot be elevated over a given height within so many yards of your dirt. Livestock/grazing rights grandfathered down whether or not the title/deed mention it.
Holy shit. Thank you. I read your comment and now my IQ has gain +10.
@@SCH292 My dad did real estate in NY, and we were less than an hour from Albany, where the Regulatory Nazgul have their lair. You had no idea when they would walk in, no idea who they would be or what they would look like. You HAD to be on your A-Game at all times, or your office would get fined or even shut down. This was one of the tests to hit the office. They passed.
Great advice. Even the "Top Producer" Agents in my locale couldn't list half those things. Nothing but glorified cheerleaders. I've encountered pretty much every gotcha on your list. When looking at property spend the day on it if you can. Gives a great feel for what its like. It still suprises me how busy some "out of the way" places can be. It also brings out neighbors who are eager to tell you all about the property and the area.
Something to always consider ....... are there any railroads within a mile or ever hiding in a field nearby.
Love hearing the railroad about a half mile from my farmette.
I love railroads. Grew up close to one. It's a selling point for me. Lol.
Definitely, look at Paradise, OH.
Here's an additional one from living in the city and can be sadly applied to rural areas too.
Drug activity nearby. If you know you know.
My contractor and subcontractors used a perc test to design and install a standard in ground drain field on property I purchased. What was not researched and discovered was that the perc tests in the development were conducted before the roads and drainage/retaining ponds were constructed. I share a retaining pond on my property and the movement of earth with heavy construction equipment compacted the ground so that the perc test results were invalid. Long story short- three years after moving into my new house I paid to have the old drain field ripped out and a new mound system installed. Contractor points finger at plumbing subcontractor who points finger at perc tester and no one takes responsibility.
Hi Wayne, nice tips, here's one for you, you might want to stop telling people to take notes and rather tell them to bookmark or save your videos instead, it will give you a better return on the time and effort you invest in your channel. My #12 tip for due diligence before buying a property is to scope out the surrounding five miles for anything that might generate smells, a hog rendering farm or landfill can destroy your peace of mind and the wind can move smells a very long distance, it's good to find out the prevailing direction the wind blows.
I bought a house near a sewage plant ~ it was awful in the summer in Florida!! We ended up moving
Great advice!
I've always wanted to see a property right after a torrential rain or during one.
Yes. And if it has a pond, how's it look in summer
Looked at a property before a torrential 2 day rain and after. Would have needed a canoe to get to a house's front door
Mineral rights and water rights are a big deal in Colorado. Fun fact: Most of the bigger town areas in Colorado already have the mineral rights owned by Union Pacific.
I think the only people that own mineral rights in Colorado are the people that have had many generations on the same land. Even smaller towns some of the cities own the mineral and water rights.
saw this in MT when I looked up there. All you get is the surface. Not UP, but the coal companies
Same in Texas- oil and gas.
What states don't have that problem with mineral rights - I think most states don't include mineral rights.
I've found it very hard to find rural land with mineral/oil right in AZ. Must depend on your region because it doesn't seem common out here. This whole state's initial infrastructure was largely developed by mining
Propety with road frontages, will ALWAYS be subject to widening off roads , which in turn WILL have u losing property over time !
Unless you're on a private road. Then your neighbor mistakenly thinks he has a right to widen it just because he has a tractor and 5000 bratty kids .
Road easements have width limits. The Town or the State has that info if the deed does not.
@@blackmanops3749 what world do u live in ? The government TAKES AND does what they want. Situation = my mother worked for a town mayor. The county wanted to buy the property. The owner would not sell. So , the mayor had said property listed to be unusable. Then they took said property from owner for mayors / county use ! True fact.
@@Raymond-l4w It's a sad thing that people are corruptable. I've witnessed such things myself. At the end of the day it takes good people to speak out and to fight evil doers. Thankfully, most people are not corrupt like those in your story.
@@blackmanops3749 What about eminent domain?
Here in texas we have a lot of caliche ground. It gets so bad the ground cracks during hot summer months. Then when it rains the ground becomes clay like. The ground is constantly moving. Not good for water and drainage lines, or brick homes.
That's because the soil ARE clayey.
In NJ a lot of soil is sand which is why there was so much erosion during superstorm Sandy.
@@anitamiller5913 dang, none of us stand a chance huh? Lol
My land in Central Texas is built on caliche and clay, but they didn't have to go very deep for a well and I have a pond as well. Not sure about the ground moving, but plenty of people have built homes with no problems.
we went and looked at 5 acres last month and after 20 minutes of getting there we heard bunch of dogs barking
When we got back to the front of the property I walked next door and the neighbor had a bunch of Hunting dogs in a kennel right next to the property line
Good luck selling that
& kennels or pet sitters
One divorced lady raised her 2 sons and sold her house after about 35 years. That guy that bought her house had a girlfriend move in with 3 big Labs. The neighbor next door in a $500,000 house, put up a spite fence with a plastic green vinyl screen.
I dated a girl that lived out in the country and there was a kennel down the road about a half mile and the noise was nearly constant, they would go quiet for 5 minutes and one would start barking and soon there were 50 barking, another thing people need to keep in mind is that out in the country there aren't many sound barriers and sound travels well unobstructed.
@@indianaslim4971 I have and had dogs, but there's nothing worse than constantly barking dogs!
@@AStanton1966 Fortunately humans adapt to conditions fairly well, her and her parents weren't bothered at all by the noise, it's similar to an aunt and uncle that lived one block away from railroad tracks and were used to the sound of trains.
Make sure the land you think you are buying and walking on is actually the land on the deed. Crazy but I've seen it happen where a guy bid on a property being foreclosed upon for back taxes only to discover he was thinking it was another and looking at the wrong property.
Didn't do proper due diligence 😢
Deed property descriptions can be wrong, too. Surveyors can make mistakes. I once recorded a deed on a piece of property that had the right range and section but the wrong township. It was an easy fix since I caught the error just a few days after the deed was initially recorded. Let this mistake remain for decades, and the fix can be terrifically difficult.
Land that doe not perk , is illegal to have septic AND running water ! Some states / land , have no restrictions. Although it is the owners duty to build to code. To build to code , still have to have county inspections ! Be careful people !
Hi Wayne! Thanks for the tips. I am searching for a property in the Kentucky! Tennessee area and I used your advice and found out there was a saw mill about 1000 feet away from the property. I approached the neighbors and their family used to own the property and told me the saw mill makes noise from sunrise to sunset, so I will take a pass on purchasing the property. Big thanks!
Thank you for sharing you story.
Tennessee is full
If you like Kentucky and want help probably for a fee check with Ken Wheeler he has helped a few folks out. Theoria Apophasis channel name.
#1 Title insurance should be a part of that.
Most people don't realize that title insurance actually insures the seller, not the buyer.
also make sure who is responsible for road maintenance, especially on a dirt road....Neighbors can literally come to you and ask for $4,000 for gravel, ditch clean out and labor...
Ha ha! Since the easement crosses my property I already gave all I’m giving for that. I don’t pay anything. That’s the deal.
Great point!
Neighboring zone check is so true. I had neighbors up street that had nice woodlot behind, later turned into a big shopping center with bright lights, sounds, food cooking smells etc. They moved after.
Not sure about all places but in Texas mineral rights are rare. Most oil companies bought those up many years ago at the beginning of the oil boom (20's and 30's).
Golden rule of land: most vacant land is vacant for a reason.
Not west of the Mississippi! You're talking about millions of acres.
@@Bettinasisrg80% of that land is owned by the Government
You may be entitled to mineral rights like water but it means nothing if your neighbor is diverting it all away from your land.
My 2-flat is 125-130 years old. It has a very restrictive deed restriction, if I tear it down whatever replaces it must be worth at least $5,000 🤣
Oh boy, those deed restrictions can really be a bear. 😂❤😂
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I plan on buying land in a couple years for offgrid living. Small home, beekeeping as well as having a food forest. I'm nervous about the whole process as there is so much to research and inspect to ensure the land is legal, safe and no surprises! The information you provide is invaluable and greatly appreciated ! Thank you so much for your time and knowledge!❤
Same concerns here, and my 1st one is which State have best conditions/less restrictions?
Southern states seem to be less restrictive.
I'm in the proverbial same boat. I've been making steady progress towards the goal, by the grace of God. Finally, at the stage of waiting for the right property to show itself and saving up as much money as I can in the meantime. God's will be done.
@@mmmfriedtatersI started 25 years ago with one 23 acre property, I'm up to a little over 300 now, it is addictive be careful. But seriously it all depends on what you want to do with it, and what state and county you choose. I for one won't buy in a blue state, and I won't buy in a county with building permits. Yep my neighbor can build a paper-mache lean too, but I don't care, its his land and I can build on mine far enough away not to see ot hear him, but I don't need to because I believe he is living his dream and I'm doing the same
@@itoldyou7887Many counties in Mo Arkansas and TN are great, but as has been said depending on what you want it to be. If you are a San Francisco ex-pat you aren't going to like the Ozark mtns
Nice checklist. Reminds me of 2020 where a bunch of people bought land unseen and found out later the land was not suisble to build house.
Can you do a video covered HOW to do due vigilance? Where to go? Who to talk to? What to ask?
Thats pretty involved and best to hire a professional deed/tilte search company. They are insured if they miss something or misinform you. You have recourse .....if you try to do it on your own you are FULLY exposed to any pit fall if you miss something. I had a friend buy a property and he insisted in using his company lawyer to save money... he just wouldnt listen to simple old me. He bought the place only to find out that our State DOT had plans to build RIGHT over him. 50 acres of peaceful quiet trout stream (looked like a State Park) STUNNING!! BUT within 4 years a 4 lane highway would be RIGHT above him. The bridge pillar to cross the valley landed just at the corner of his place.
@@reidcrosby6241 I don't want to do it but I do want to know what the "professionals" are supposed to do.
@@reidcrosby6241in most states unless you purchase an owner's policy they are NOT INSURED! Nor do they go back as far as a full title search does. Most states a full title search it's 40 or 60 years. A deed/title search in many places is 10 years.
@@anitamiller5913 good info. I just know when we bought a property our search was extensive, and insured.
@clydedenby1436 ......just go to the courthouse of the county where the property is located. They have all info on it....liens, owner, restrictions, zoning, etc. Tax office knows everything about everybody (in smaller towns).
Rights (mineral, water, timber) are spelled out in deed & sale agreement.
Find the local gossip hangout, usually church (the "bulldog" will approach you first, just be friendly, show no fear or judgement, act innocent & talk family ....or tragedy - they LOVE gossip 🙄😏) if there's no bar, or "morning" restaurant where locals graze to get scoop on "events". 😉
This is for smaller areas not big cities like Atlanta, NY, etc. In these areas, I would just hire the "pro" to do the deal. So, probly just contact this guy and let him help you. 👍🙂🕊🕊🕊
I lock down the deal with contract with a feasibility study 10 to 30 days . Then go to county, title co, have septic co do a perc test and call well driller for area depth.
If you perc test dig hole,pore 5 gal bucket of water in hole. If it drains in 5 minutes or less your good. I put my own septic systems in with engineers design.
Excellent, top notch advice! An awesome beard, too! I will add something to this list (especially for we Texans) See what you can find out about local oil drilling and gas fracking in the area as well as any type of waste disposal especially a chemical waste ponds that winds may blow toxic air your way. Texas has screwy laws that allow drilling fracking mining companies unlimited access to drive across your property.
I liked your 10 (11). The 2 most important I think you left out were access and easements. Can you actually get to the property directly from a public road or a registered easement across someone else's property. Or conversely, does someone else have access across your property.
You can do an entire segment about easements.
Should be recorded at the Register of Deeds. Exactly why you need an owner's policy of title insurance.
In Texas it seems that so many of the sellers want to maintain the mineral rights.
A company from Texas wants to buy my mineral rights in another state while I live in even another state. Get something in the mail every couple of months. Nope.
@@JNoMooreNumbersIt depends what's in the land and what they're offering.
They're probably trying to lowball you but if you do your research, it may be a real good deal.
In these hard economic times, you might want to accept it, considering that it's fair, before they changed their minds.
@@user-kq6sh8tg5f Natural gas. Nope.
The county hydraulics dept or building dept will let you look at flood plane map if you property is on or near a river. Some towns have low spots that flood.
Also added insurance if you are in a flood plan, regardless if it floods or not.
The FEMA flood maps are online, but they were derived from aerial photogrammetry and can be very inaccurate. However, they can be modified by hiring a surveyor and maybe Wetland scientist through a LOMA process. Don't pass up on something that might actually be doable with a little bit of investigation.
Many out of staters are moving in around me ( in the woods) and finding out too late it is 1/2 to 1 mile to electric and water. We are talking tens of thousands of $$$ to get them.
Two comments that caught my attention. You mentioned "blue ink." Be careful if a dishonest seller offers you a blue ink pen to sign over the property. Certain types of blue ink don't show when photocopied (this is done on copy protected documents [usually blueprints, engineering documents, copy protected documents such as NDA's] as a security measure to prevent them from being copied by unauthorized people). Bring your own BLACK ink pen. Otherwise, that document could be photocopied with that blue ink I talked about and the buyer's signature doesn't show on the photocopied document, making it look like the buyer didn't sign the document, leaving an unscrupulous seller free to resell the property again even after accepting the buyers cash.
Personally, I won't touch a property with an HOA on or near the site. There's so many ridiculous restrictions HOA's place on the a property (including requiring that all structures be through professional construction companies instead of allowing DIY or premade structures on the property). HOA's get more and more facetious with their restrictions every year. It's easier to look elsewhere than get tied up in this nonsense.
💯 % on the HOA’s …. But signing in blue ink has been standard business where we live. I don’t get the point, as color copying technology has evolved greatly. Bring your own pen if that’s a concern.
@@HarrisonCountyStudio yeah his advice is a bit outdated, with modern photo-editing tech it's completely irrelevant what a photocopier from the 1980s can do.
@@HarrisonCountyStudio I can see how warning against scammers would be a problem to someone willing to try it. Outdated or not, better to be safe than sorry. Speaking of outdated, the Post Office still delivers paper mail and most DMVs still issue physical drivers licenses, future boy. Don't assume everyone runs the latest tech when state offices still use dot matrix printers and carbon forms
I don't think you know what facetious means.
@@HarrisonCountyStudioin NY state you must sign in black ink.
Regarding busy roads/thoroughfares: We didn't consider this when purchasing our home... Is the home on the route taken by Emergency Services (fire trucks, ambulance, etc.) to get from one neighborhood to another? We didn't know that our street is the most direct route for EMS (where the fire station) to go under the highway overpass to get to a major thoroughfare on the other side. It matters if noise/commotion matter to you. It hasn't been a problem for us, but might be for some. Also, my husband loves trains and we're down the hill from a rail line that initially (25 years ago) was only for local distribution - a Branch Line - my husband says... well, now it is a commuter rail line with light rail (2 cars) running all day long. Lately, after a bunch of issues with copper wire theft along the line (due to the economy failing & homeless populations growing) they have to use their horns at every crossing (Positive Control system) because of federal mandates. Locals are livid. It was awful enough when they were improving the gates/signals/rail to get the commuter system installed, but having this new development, especially in the summer when people have their windows open, really has people cranky and aggravated since there's not timeline for when it will be fixed. Trains are great until you have to hear every one passing, day or night.
We must be neighbors. I didn't know that about where I bought either. Sometimes I can't even have a phone call on my patio it's so loud. First mistake I made in doing this five times.
I love trains and grew up a couple hundred feet from one. It was commuter also, but not like the traffic you described. That would be too much even for me!
Adding to my previous post on access. I am talking legal access. You may have physical access but not necessarily legal access. Discovered this after my title company failed to properly clear my land when I purchased it( I should not have been able to close on the purchase)
I did not discover the error until I went to sell and another title company did find the error of the previous title company.
This prevented me from selling until access was accomplished legally. Cost me dearly financially and time wise.
Sounds like grounds to sue your title company.
That just blows. Go with a major underwriter.
Here in UT, sellers in the mountain refuse to do a survey before sell. I have not been able to purchase a few lots because of this. I could not go thru with the purchase cuz I can't tell where the boundary lines are between lots.
I have even offered to pay that survey money back at closing.
Yes that cud be a nightmare!
If you want a survey you pay for it. Not the seller. If they won't allow it walk away.
Hire your own surveyor. Like a previous post said, walk away from the deal if the seller refuses your surveyor permission to access the property. A property owner who refuses a surveyor's access has to have something they'd prefer others didn't discover.
I never accept a survey someone else paid for. I tell my surveyor he can have a "starting" point, because I don't want him merely relying on the property description from a previous survey, which will perpetuate errors rather than fix them. A surveyor will certainly let a previous survey form the bulk of his work. Unfortunately, a difference in two surveys may require a third independent survey to verify the description. Yes, all those surveys can be expensive, but not nearly so expensive as purchasing a property on which no lender will furnish a mortgage.
Surveys are always accurate?? Hmmmmm. Some are more accurate than others; but why do you own property "comprising xx.x acres, more or less"? I guess one might say that the science and art of surveying more or less gives you an accurate description. 😂
An alternative to sewer or septic is an incinerating toilet. Electric, diesel, gasoline, propane, natural gas. Heats up over 1000° and produces only a small amount of sterile ash.
Never freaking ever own a shared pond.
Why is that? Genuine question
Someone might drown and you get sued. A guess only..
@@chupacabra304 What you want with the pond and what the neighbors want with the pond will always be 2 different ideas. Do you want to belong to a HOA in the country?
@@SouthoftheBigChicken noted, thanks
All good to know. There was a TV program that let perspective buyers stay in the house overnight and really get a feel for house and it's neighborhood, before they pull the trigger. I really liked that. DO you hear airplanes overhead, sirens blaring day and night, dogs barking their brains out, loud neighbors, no neighbors, all that stuff. It was a really great little show ! I think it's a great idea too. Maybe not as far as the seller or realtor are concerned, but the buyer beware. It's their hard earned money- blood sweat and tears !
Arkansas is the place to look, got 79ac.for 81thousand,no percks, no permits, no restrictions, no zoning because I'm at place so for out in the woods in the Ozarks.
just be careful...when you leave to go to town, you might come back to no windows doors or furnace...ive heard this about the ozarks.....some people think whats yours is their's...lol
@@flyntfoster4043 Ron you know I leave all the time, 4 years and not lost anything, lol , that's what my buddy says, I have 7 dogs that say just try it, you might get one or two but my 135 pound Bobo knows guns and I trained him just in case. Have a blessed day my friend.
@flyntfoster4043 Please tell me this is a only a running joke and the Ozark local people are lovely, kind and welcoming.
When there's no zoning and no restrictions, almost anything could be built next to you. That's risky.
@@Bobrogers99 I'm not alone, my friends bought too, 1 third of the county, us old vets still believe in the brotherhood.
3. a. Within your survey, make sure to check if you have an easement or if someone has an easement on your property. If your land is not frontage on the road, you would have an easement to get to your land. On the other hand, someone might have an easement through your land to get theirs. I have seen numerous stories in the news lately about people purchasing land that they can’t get to because their landlocked and have no easement.
I chose to invest outside the US. You guys just don't understand how badly the government rips you off here.
A New Subscriber, this is a source of practical information, without any fluffing.
We did all these things and more, and still the govt. came into our landlocked rural acreage, and excavated our property in half, claiming they have a drainage easement agreement. We proved them wrong in court, but all attys. worked against us in spite of the facts, aka perjury. They claimed no other easements for the connecting properties to ours.
I love your list. A few other CCR (Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions) issues are important: Does the land have a deadline as to when the buyer must build a minimum/maximum sized house? Does the owner's driveway leading up to the dwelling need to be paved with asphalt? Does the owner need to clear out brush to a certain radius from the main dwelling as a fire protection zone? Can the owner add a mobile home as a rental unit or as an inlaw setup? Can multiple housing structures use the same water well/septic tank, or must they have their own water wells/septic tanks? So many things must be considered if one wants to buy and develop a piece of land.
Buying property in the NW you don't want water on your land such as a creek or stream AND on your adjoining neighbors land as Salmon have rights that will be heavily enforced.
If a stream or creek runs year round there is an easement that means that you can’t fence the property because of the Indian treaties that supersede state government. Washington has this and a bunch of people from California got real shocks when they were told that their fences were illegal.
Some places will change the zoning to something different so the municipality can get more taxes.
I have been looking for property (riverfront) land. I have been checking on the flood zones they have on their ads. So many of the properties you can see where the water can cover the entire piece of land. That woke me up!
Your advice is so informative, it's appreciated. Have a good day.
I find it so frustrating that the real estate agent or owner does not provide all the info about the land upfront. The buyer is almost always having to do their own research. It makes me think they're hoping to offload bad land to somebody who doesn't do their "due diligence". 😢
I completely agree but often time the agent nor the seller knows what all buying a piece of land intells.
@@JoJo-fm4tk During flood season, doesn't EVERYONE have waterfront property?
@@houseofnoNot me, my elevation is 1000 ft. Now that's nothing for CO but I'm in Mo, so its all downhill from me
@@TheRealWayneTurnera title insurance policy would verify that!
All these women are so beautiful, so much talented and iconic. Thank you ladies for all the years of entertainment you have shared with our culture.
I'm thinking you need to check if you can have a food. garden. The soil may not be good for that .
You can add in mulch and leaves and compost. I did that to my Florida sand soil -- permaculture. I have a fruit jungle around my home.
HOA will say you can't have a vegetable garden. Stay away from HOAs. More than one HOA will try fineing me for telling you this.
@@Richard-q1y Definitely no to HOA. I live in freedom to garden.
Enjoyed this, even here in Australia your advice is usable
Thank you.
I really appreciate you for taking the time out there in the heat to provide us with this information
Definitely buyer beware, it's not like a TV you can send back if you don't like it.
Thanks for the great information. I just read something last week that could raise a red flag. A small developer bought a parcel of land - hoping to build a few nice homes in the quiet neighborhood. He was shocked to discover there was no access to the land, so he could not built on the property. So as a minimum, make sure you have an easement or other free access to the property from a public road.
Love your videos❣️Have to add; your subs are full of stories and info too❣️
You get what you pay for - or less.
"More or less."
I’m in California. If you are developing a lot where there are only access roads off a highway, and there are multi millionaire neighbors nearby, and you will have to hook up to an electric transformer pole that is either on their property or right on the property line, they will deny you electricity access and you will have to run your home entirely on off grid solar & wind power or you will have no electric. They would have to sign a paper that allows the private enterprise electric company to drive a vehicle onto their property, lay wires across it before hanging them, cut down a tree if its in the way, and the new ordinance encircles the new higher capacity pole in a 6’x6’ or more plant-free gravel easement to avoid any potential sparks igniting grass or trees. Just assume you will have to go off grid. A conduit line addition that even cuts into their hedge with the easement will be denied & moving the pole would be denied because the lines would be taken down & lay on their plants & bushes. Supposedly the electric company has imminent domain to add you to the grid. The very rich person can afford to sue & tie it up in court indefinitely. They can demand the contract be adjusted to slightly different specifications over and over indefinitely & if you can’t afford to go off grid with your electric, you can’t move in & no one will buy the property from you because 99% of buyers want a finished property with a house & all the utilities. And if you are of normal means you already mortgaged it to build on it, so you may be headed into bankruptcy. This happened to us & we spent 3/4 of a year waiting for the multimillionaires to sign the paper while they changed its terms minutely over & over again because of their hedge at the edge of their property. They never intended to sign & they wouldn’t talk to us about it, so we just had to guess what was going on. We got the peasant treatment, “stay off our property, don’t talk to us, how did you get our number!”. So we had to guess when or if they were going to finish the paperwork & approve. At some point you realize they are stalling forever. The people we bought the property from claimed they ran electric, but only ran the pipe for the conduit along our property & over toward the pole. Not the actual wire. You don’t find that sort of lie out until you dig out the end pipe under the ground panel, when you are getting ready to hook up your house you just finished building. We could actually afford to go solar off-grid but it would have taken the last of our funds, especially after the pandemic drew out our time table & we were having to rent & pay storage & the new mortgage, for 2 years while everything was shut down & then building in a supply shortage took another year & was twice as expensive and then the rich neighbor drew out the electric issue for nearly a year, so we still couldn’t move in. 4 years. That nearly broke us. We still had 60k to minimally offgrid one house, but would be broke after that. Luckily there was a second power pole next to the road on the edge of the next private property over, that was an old business, & the wealthy owner was a nice old lady. She signed the permission paper. We got the people who sold us the property to pay for digging the line trench down the road the other way toward the business, & for laying the new conduit pipe & the two poles. AND luckily the state authority for road construction CalTrans let us expedite & put up 2 poles along their public road, leading to our access road where we could underground up the access road from there. Because they didn’t have any underground infrastructure along our side of the main road. It was just a dirt shoulder. If it had been concrete sidewalk & gas & waterlines & street light lines below, figuring out how to run us electric lines might have taken Caltrans a year max. PG&E originally told us that. Thats why we hadn’t previously considered the business parking lot pole. It was at the edge of their parking area, but in it. So we finally had some luck & finished our project. The rich people who tried to bankrupt us still avoid us of course. They told another rich neighbor adjacent over on the cliff side that OUR tree has overgrown their access road & they need it trimmed back. And the other neighbor replied “You will have to talk to them. They are your neighbor now.” Then told us about the conversation. The other neighbor still didn’t talk to us. We of course ignored the tree & they hired someone to cut their side of it. The millionaires all have cliff houses up on the mesa facing the sea. A stunning view of large dunes rolling away in the distance. We get a smaller view from a bit farther back, between two mansions that are lower down the mesa side, thats why buying the property was still worth it. We got the land for $370,000 which is cheap for the California coast. Probably because of the electric issue, and being next to an old tin roofed business. No millionaire wanted it. Building 1 house is still around $200,000+. We put in 2 manufactured homes instead which were a lot cheaper about $160,000 for both total, during supply chain issues with the contractor pouring the foundations & digging septic tank & utilities etc. Its a long narrow property so 2 fit. Probably living near cheap houses pissed off the richer millionaire who wouldn’t allow us grid access. I think they tried to get rid of us.
Ppl in California have purchased beautiful property - just to find out that on a visit that it has been clear cut of all trees. They didn't own the timber rights. How devastating this must have been?
I've done titles in the Pacific Northwest were people didn't understand that a timber company could come and clear cut your land using their "timber rights" leaving you with a clear cut land full of stumps.
Great video. Some encroachments may not be visible. Like underground drainage, irrigation or electrical lines or even septic systems installed by neighboring owners who were thinking ahead about adverse possession or perhaps just clueless about boundaries.
That's why you buy an owners title insurance policy
@@anitamiller5913 I have owner's title insurance. It will not cover the litigation if I end up in court over my neighbor's buried downspout pipes which were not on any survey.
@@donmulder8061 should have been on the survey. Should be covered by title insurance. Sounds like a crappy search. Go after the agent.
@@donmulder8061 that illegal encroachment on your land! If there's no easement in place.
@@anitamiller5913 No one to go after. The pipes were buried. Surveyors will not look for downspout pipes especially if they are buried. It's possible he could have seen it but it was at least covered by dense vegetation. The neighbors then snuck onto my property several times looking for thee pipes to open them up. i now have an adverse possession threat. Title insurance blames the home buyer.
Are you downwind of an industrial pig operation, or chicken operation ?
Or the dump, or any manufacturing facility. Another one is railroads. There are trains that derail and spill chemicals. Will they pollute your land?
Another item: Are there any access fees to get through to the land? Governmental entities can charge you to cross their land, even on an existing surface road, to get to your land, and can change those fees on a whim. Permits can be short term or long term.
Very interesting, federal land means federal laws?
@@plinblecould even be a Village or Town not necessarily federal 😢
Good stuff! Personally, I liked the deed restrictions we got with our recent land that we just purchased. There’s only 10 lots available with lake and river access. We bought two lots, each at 6 acres, giving us 12 acres to build on with plenty of space to live on. The restrictions were as follows:
1). Only 1 house per lot. We ❤️ that one! It means nobody can turn their property into a high volume multi family “city.” That happened to our in-laws in a neighboring town, with an entire “familia” building 5 tiny houses on the property next door and all powered by trashy extension cords! It’s crowded, busy with vehicles, multiple pets and noise. Mariachi parties every weekend into what was once a quiet neighborhood. Restrictions piles beenice for them.
2). No subdividing lots. ❤️ that! It keeps the 10 lots in our secluded lake side property to just “10 lots” and with no more than 10 homes for the neighborhood.
3). No pigs on one’s property. No more than 6 chickens. ❤️ this one too. No pig crap smell!
4). No mobile homes of any type. ❤️❤️❤️ it! We don’t want trailer park trash setting up a residence. No living and setting up an RV, tent, cardboard box as a permanent residence. Again, this keeps the trash from moving in next door.
5). A home must have brand new 51% Stone masonry on the outside of it when built. This keeps an elegance to the properties.
6). No non see-through fencing blocking the front of one’s house. This is awesome! Someone can’t make their property stand out like an ugly fortress wall in the neighborhood. Fencing and gates are permitted, just not solid “Berlin walls” around the front. The side and rear of the property is no problem for solid wall fencing. Again, keeping the neighborhood looking elegant.
7). No commercial equipment, vehicles and/or signage on the property. This is fantastic! Who wants tractors, big trucks, company vans and/or construction equipment parked on their property, only to be an eye sore for the rest of the block??? No thanks. Who wants a billboard out front that says “Crazy Cooter’s Welding Service”? Not us! Been there, seen that already and it’s sucks! It devalues the residential neighborhood aesthetically and monetarily when there’s a commercial “yard” on the land, when it’s supposed to be residential only. Seems like someone is always trying to bend the rules. If you want to run a business, then go buy in a commercially zoned area!
8). No trash burn piles except for organic tress, grass and brush matter from one’s own lot is allowed. Who wants a neighbor burning regular trash piles next to their land??? Not us.
9). No free roaming dogs without enclosures (fencing etc…) on one’s own property. Last thing I want is a neighbor’s damn unleashed Rottweilers running onto our property!
10). No storing of junk, “blight,” old cars, trash, or storage lot stuff on one’s property.
So, my point is that some deed restrictions or “CC&R’s” may actually benefit one’s own lifestyle and environment. We couldn’t have asked for anything better with our plot of land. We actually ❤️❤️❤️ the restrictions. Plus, with two lots, we gave ourselves more room to breath between neighbors.
No HOA either! I’d never pay a onthoy fee for an HOA. But agreeable CC&Rs can be a good thing. In our own case, it’s a GREAT thing.
I agree 100 percent
Wow aren't you nice.
I'm happy you got what you were looking for. But I am not moving to the woods/ RURAL to impress everyone with "an elegant property and lifestyle".
With that level of CC&R’s - good luck enforcing them without an HOA with both fine and lien rights. Local government is not going to be active AT ALL in enforcement, and unless you’re really happy sending lawyers’ kids to college, there’s not a lot you can do individually.
So, if a trucker buys a ten acre lot in your neighborhood and wants to park his tractor on his property when hes not working you have a problem with that? Sounds like you are the hoa. I have news for you if cooter spends his hard earned dollars to buy a piece of property he should be able to do what he wants on his land thats why most people opt to buy land so they can live free not have some jackass micro manage how they want to live. Dont get me wrong, some rules are necessary you certainly would not want to have neighbors who cha cha cha all night where you have to hear it ive had neighbors like that it and sucks but to say you dont want to see vehicles that you dont approve of well, too bad. Everybody has a right to live happily just like you
Mineral rights, yeah! Otherwise the previous owner can come on to your new property, to explore, and extract minerals, all for his benefit?
👍. Also, can you not just fence, but can you wall your property?
Along with 7 - know what your cities long term plan is for the area around you. Our house is high end single family large lots, property all around us was farm land or low density housing and our city came out with a plan to change the farm land to high density and commercial land. I wish we had known that when we bought our house since now we went from having a picturesque farm to a dozen large apartment complex with their driveway going right into our bedroom windows, their front doors being
In our case, the seller had a survey. We were told we didn’t need another survey so we accepted theirs. Turns out their survey was incorrect and we paid for 7.17 acres and got 5.75. In Pennsylvania it’s buyer beware. Nothing we could do.
I am perpetually astonished that the US is still drinking water out of the ground - and even talk about "a septic and a well" like you're not planning on getting your drinking water out of the same dirt you're dispersing your toilet into!
I can see how lush and green that landscape is. You've got oodles of rainfall there. Why are you not putting in a rainwater tank and drinking the water off your roof? Even if you have air pollution so you have to filter your roof water to make it good to drink, it's still going to take less filtering to make it clean than any water you pump out of the dirt.
Also, your rainwater tank is yours. You never have to worry about how many other people are going to start tapping into that water supply and draw down the water table until one day your pump runs dry. Rain lands on your roof, runs into your tank, end of story. Even in a drought when you get less rain than usual, you can see that happening and choose to use less water until your normal pattern returns. You don't have to deal with someone else wasting water and then you not having any.
Like Wayne said, there’s more than 11. Here’s one from my personal experience: Historic Districts. They’re not just cool plaques to put on your house. Check the rules and regs out before you buy!
I bought land that floods for hunting/four wheeling. My nightmare would be that a subdivision would go up next to my hunting land. I don’t have to worry about that with “River front” property.
Buying flood land is usually wet land. In my state you cannot cut any saplings or back fill within 50 ft of wet land. The likely hood of a sub division going in next to your land is xero.. as long as you’re not gonna build a house I’d say it’s a good deal for recreational use and likely cheaper too cus it’s not buildable
I learned about mineral rights. That was a new one for me. Thanks, Wayne!
Very welcome
Such great information! Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge.
That super southern accent is a challenge. Damn.
"Number tin is mineral rots"
Where I live in Alberta mineral rights are by default the property of the Crown. They can tap a gas well on your property, but you profit from the royalties. My deed restrictions (they're called covenants here) are that I'm not permitted to build a coal mine or a brothel on my property. I guess wildcat mines and prostitution were a bit of an issue back in frontier days.
So if you dig a mine with a brothel in it you're OK? That's logical and not or.
No brothel?! unbelievable!!! 🤪
Jk but that’s still unfortunate, hopefully someone doesn’t have a diamond, gold or oil vein under their property!
Thanks for these tips on buying land. 👍
May God bless you & your family.
Hi Wayne
Thanks for the advice. I’m looking for a property somewhere in the Kentucky, Tennessee area and made an offer on it.
I walked the property and discovered that a sawmill was about 1000 feet away. I spoke with the neighbors who were the previous owners and told me that the sawmill ran from sunrise to sunset and the noise was not acceptable to me. Big thanks for the advice!
Your teachings are invaluable! You don’t know what you don’t know!
Wonderful video! So much information! I will need to study this! Thanks! 🎉❤👍👏😁
That was an excellent & informative vid that sets out the basics of purchasing land & of course the most important lesson of the vid = YOU DO NOT KNOW what you do not know- so if you are giving someone your hard earned money in such massive amounts- FIND OUT... EVERYTHING! Also you should try to meet some neighbors... a bad neighbor can turn your newly purchased at a great price garden of delights into a hell on earth real quick... so KNOW EVERYTHING before you execute the sale & then there will be no surprises & whatever the lawyers fees you save that way more than cover your time & expense at finding out everything about the property & the surroundings prior to the purchase... a point driven home by the vid that should be made explicable to every one's understanding... BIG THUMBS UP for this video!
Thanks for the video, here in Texas, it is super rare to get mineral rights with the land sale. Those have been held in many cases by the families of original homesteaders for hundreds of years. You normally get water rights, but all other minerals (including oil) is normally not included in the sale. To find land that does include the mineral rights, you typically have to be in very undesirable locations, like the deserts of far west Texas.
Here, land ranges from $8k-$14k per acre in average areas. Lows can be $800/acre in the desert out west, and as high as $30k per acre closer to larger cities, but still far enough out to hunt on it.
We have been looking for a 15-20 acre plot that we could subdivide if we needed to, and eventually start a homestead. The problem is finding a plot that meets our needs and is within out budget. We definitely want to be able to target shoot, and so far, everything we have looked at has had other developed property next to it. (Or it was so remote, it was a 4 hour drive from us)
If you want to hunt and shoot, 15 or 20 acres isn't very much, if you subdivide it you just created a subdivision and might as well create an HOA as well
@@integr8er66 Well, the subdivide desire is more for passing down to the kids, in case one wants to keep their share while another want to sell theirs. (It would prevent the forced sale of the total land, or prevent one from being forced to buy out the other if they could not afford it.)
As for hunting, here in Texas, many counties require a minimum of 10 acres to hunt on it. )not all do, as a lot of Texas is desert land when you get west of the Abilene line) - I know several folks that hunt on their 10 acres with no issues. (A couple are limited to only shooting in certain directions of course.)
Incorrect. Hamilton county, TX. I bought 20 acres and own all the rights. I have a wildlife exemption on it and it has never been developed.
@@DIVISIONINCISION Nice score - I have friends with property in Jack, Hill, Fanin, Navarro and Freestone counties, and none of them had any mineral rights convey when they bought. I know there are some properties out there that will, but many do not.
Congrats on your plot....Hamilton county is one of the areas I have in my search. Perhaps we will be neighbors one day!
Cheers!
You need to make sure you land is not located near a railroad. Lots of trains derail. That goes for homes already built too. Will a train derail and spill chemicals that will affect your land? Ask those on the Ohio/Penn border if they ever thought about that?
Lots of good advice in a very short video
Excellent advice about water/rain my father always said the same thing
It may sound obvious- but unless you’re a very experienced buyer, it’s best to buy property that has already been used or is setup for your planned usage. I would never buy an open piece of land.
Most people are not aware of the Jake Brake.
Flood zones & wetlands, walking the land when it rains will also (IMPORTANT!) indicate possible "Navigable Waters of the United States" problems.
You're conflating a couple of things. The "navigable waters" thing is technical legalese that boils down to the Clean water Act and the Navigable Waters and Harbors acts. Basically the Feds regulate waterways and Wetlands thru these congressional laws. Flood zones and wetlands fall under this and the US Army Corps of Engineers hold oversight and rule making for these. But it goes beyond just the Feds. Each State also has EPA/DES rules for wetlands, flood zones and building on those lands. Residential projects are pretty straightforward to evaluate because the rules are well established and well known. Usually surveyors and wetlands scientists are familiar with these and can assist in evaluating a parcel's viability for your project.
Exactly why an accurate survey is needed. Along with an owners title insurance policy.