Randy Meisner--Take it to the Limit *The Untold Truth*

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @janesummers820
    @janesummers820 14 дней назад +14

    No one will ever, ever take that song to the place that Randy Meisner did. He was phenomenal!!

    • @janesummers820
      @janesummers820 14 дней назад +1

      Talk about “cutting your nose off to despite your face”, Don and Glen didn’t do the Eagles and good for “pushing” Randy out the way it happened.

  • @wz8729
    @wz8729 9 дней назад +7

    Thanks for sharing the truth. I never really thought Randy would explode and cause a fight. I always thought Frey was the one that started the fight. RIP Randy. Your a better man for walking away.

  • @reneeheknowsmyname6771
    @reneeheknowsmyname6771 9 дней назад +4

    'Take It To The Limit' will always be Randy's song!! Thank you, Randy
    The song has always held a special place in my heart, even as a little girl. And to this day, whenever I hear it, it still brings a smile to my face!

  • @andyjackson304
    @andyjackson304 29 дней назад +31

    Randy had already performed the song earlier as part of the band's set list. Randy had the best natural singing voice in the group but he didn't like being in the spotlight and the song put a lot of strain on him mentally and vocally hitting the right notes every night. Don Felder said that backstage, Glenn told Randy you're going to do it for the encore and Randy said no because he had already sung it as part of the set list and he didn't feel up to singing it again and they had never done it as the encore before. He said Frey was irrate and demanded Randy to sing it and again Randy said no. Frey then pushed Randy and Randy snapped and grabbed Frey by the throat and literally lifted him off the ground and pinned him against the wall and told him to never lay a hand on him again. Felder said it was so uncharacteristic of Randy because he was the most laid-back, quiet, and gentle person in the band but he had enough of Frey and Henley and how they treated everyone in the band. He said that they had managed to take the joy and fun out of playing music. Felder said that in true Randy fashion, he personally apologized to him and Joe Walsh for his actions but Felder said that it was years of frustration built up in Randy and Glenn just happened to be on the receiving end of it. Don Felder said that his view of Randy never changed. He was still the sweetest and greatest person you could ever meet.

    • @periwinklemcfee7274
      @periwinklemcfee7274 16 дней назад +2

      Nice post, thanks. "... He said that they had managed to take the joy and fun out of playing music...." Both Glen Frey and Don Henley would be investment bankers or private equity crooks if they hadn't discovered music. Cheers! Thanks for the insight!

    • @janesummers820
      @janesummers820 14 дней назад

      Someone that is that laid back can only take it so far. Don obviously made the choice to “take it to the limit” and for once, it didn’t end well for him or the Eagles!

    • @leemanhamptons
      @leemanhamptons 11 дней назад

      I think fatigue and cocaine abuse had something to do with Meisner's throat issues. That is an incredibly tough song to sing. They were all snorting blow which I'm sure created to their tension.

    • @janesummers820
      @janesummers820 9 дней назад

      @@leemanhamptons unfortunately you are probably right.

  • @mattrodela2030
    @mattrodela2030 Месяц назад +49

    Easy going, sensitive people are often targeted by narcissists, especially in bands. Good for Randy for walking.

    • @JoeSchmo-u1d
      @JoeSchmo-u1d Месяц назад

      Unfortunately, the cover band I'm in has a narcissist in it...the keyboard/guitar/sax/flute/harmonica player is SO full of himself. I would have punched him a long time ago, but he's not worth going to jail for.

    • @al2275
      @al2275 26 дней назад +2

      Remember The Cars? Ric Ocasek (singer of Best Friend's Girlfriend) did that to Ben Orr (singer of Drive and Just What I Needed and Moving in Stereo)! Ric was a narcissist and pushed Ben deeper into the background, used and crapped on Ben. Ric is the reason the cars broke up.
      Also TomSchultz was a narc who ruined the band Boston in less than TWO years!
      KISS, Gene with his sidekick Paul, they ruined every band member's spirit.
      The old saying still goes: never meet your heros.

    • @connievino4226
      @connievino4226 26 дней назад

      Oh yeah and sad.

    • @rockychristakes951
      @rockychristakes951 11 дней назад +1

      That's pretty profound

    • @mikemcgrath9761
      @mikemcgrath9761 3 дня назад

      @@connievino4226

  • @talbotdarren
    @talbotdarren Месяц назад +122

    If anything, Henley and Frey have proven themselves over the years to be two of the biggest pricks in all of music. RIP Randy, you were a sweet soul.

    • @paulyboy1951
      @paulyboy1951 Месяц назад +4

      yes

    • @rm8281
      @rm8281 Месяц назад +8

      I agree. I loved the Eagles in my youth. Seeing their documentary really changed my opinion about them, and not for the better.

    • @ObiPleasant
      @ObiPleasant Месяц назад +3

      I thought I was going to hear a bunch of crap on my comment @ Glenn being a dick.

    • @stoveboltlvr3798
      @stoveboltlvr3798 Месяц назад +10

      I'd believe Randy over those two ego freaks!

    • @SingleTax
      @SingleTax Месяц назад +11

      Thanks for saying it for me. Without Randy, it ain't the Eagles; it's the Frey-Henley Band.

  • @catherinecole1188
    @catherinecole1188 Месяц назад +54

    Thank you for this video. I’ve been a Randy Meisner fan for many years. Many of his fans have believed for a long time that the narrative pushed by Frey and Henley was incorrect. Why they did that I don’t know? It could be said the band’s subsequent albums, whilst still popular, missed the special magic that Randy brought to the Eagles. Were Frey and Henley peeved about that? Randy is on record saying that he had let all the bad feeling go, that to harbour resentment was no way to live. He was a peaceful guy and didn’t deserve the lies. As Randy once said: “all I want to see is 5 guys happy playing together, that’s where the music comes from.” Randy remains beloved and appreciated by his many fans and music lovers. May he RIP.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад +1

      You're welcome!

    • @georgeklavins7257
      @georgeklavins7257 26 дней назад +5

      Randy was a fellow Nebraskan. ...from Scottsbluff. I'm in Omaha. It was probably 80 or 81 when I was in college. He played a solo show at a club called Pogo's. It was one helluva show. After it was over, I was lucky enough to "steal" about 10 minutes of his time. Very polite, soft spoken, and gracious. It was actually an honor to speak to him. I thanked him for his time after he told me he had to leave to get on the bus....Damn, that's one of my favorite concert experiences.

    • @catherinecole1188
      @catherinecole1188 26 дней назад +2

      @@georgeklavins7257 what a wonderful experience for you! I’ve only ever heard positive things about Randy’s interaction with his fans. Terrific memory - thanks for sharing.

    • @atokadjoe
      @atokadjoe 20 дней назад +1

      @@georgeklavins7257 GBR!

    • @georgeklavins7257
      @georgeklavins7257 19 дней назад +2

      @catherinecole1188 In fact I JUST finished watching a show of his, only about 20 minutes from 2000 at a club in LA called The Joint....RUclips it if interested.

  • @moosecat
    @moosecat Месяц назад +78

    Hmmm...I'm curious.
    --Bernie Leadon gets into a fight, and leaves the group. The other party in the fight...Glenn Frey.
    --Randy Meisner gets into a fight, and leaves the group. The other party in the fight...Glenn Frey.
    --Don Felder gets into a fight, and the group shuts down. The other party in the fight...Glenn Frey.
    --After the band gets together, and cuts another album together, Don Felder is fired from the group. The people doing the firing ...Don Henley and Glenn Frey.
    I might not be the brightest bulb in the marquee, but I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here, and a VERY common denominator.

    • @jimmyjones2896
      @jimmyjones2896 Месяц назад +4

      The lowest common denominator.

    • @burtrangle3546
      @burtrangle3546 Месяц назад +3

      They were meant to build on the Bakersfield sound, but Frey was'nt a hair on Parson's ass, so they became an mor R&B group.

    • @deathmetaldouglas69
      @deathmetaldouglas69 25 дней назад

      @@burtrangle3546 That Irving asshole did not help things either. He convinced Frey & Henley they were leaders because of a couple of top 40 hits. When the band was signed the big connections were had by the other two as they had legitimate followings with Flying Burrito Brothers and Poco. Also Randy Meisner sang lead in a lot of earlier Eagles material so that whole "shunning the spotlight" thing is so bogus. Aside from all that what's really strange is Gram Parsons and Glenn Fry do look alike.

  • @wmg1958
    @wmg1958 17 дней назад +6

    Thanks gor clearing this up man. Hard to dispute what was recorded in print at the time. Youve done the world of Rock a huge favor.

  • @b52crewdog
    @b52crewdog 26 дней назад +9

    There can be no doubt the Eagles had ego issues. You cannot have that much talent crammed together and then add the drug of choice of the time and not have crazy things go down! I will always love this song and when I saw them in Greensboro during the HC tour it was def one of many highlights that night! Nobody will ever own it like Randy!

  • @groovekingmuzz2699
    @groovekingmuzz2699 Месяц назад +73

    Anyone who Frey didn't get into a fight with?And i can tell you as someone who worked drum cartage for Don Henley,that guy is as unhinged as they come..Nasty,capricious,and over all a rude,ungrateful guy...Truth hurts..

    • @oldermusiclover
      @oldermusiclover Месяц назад +6

      so sad

    • @ObiPleasant
      @ObiPleasant 29 дней назад +10

      Certainly, if there's a Rock n Roll Heaven, then there must be a Rock n Roll Hell. Filled with people that were helped by someone else, and then shit on members of their own band. Frey and Henley won't be alone.

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 27 дней назад

      I always thought that Frey was a d*ck !

    • @jamesrichey5389
      @jamesrichey5389 27 дней назад +2

      Frey was worse than Henley, but they were both lying pieces of trash. Henley, in the end quit on Frey!

    • @fosbury68
      @fosbury68 22 дня назад +2

      The Eagles constructed an entire career based on ripping off Rick Nelson, and Poco. When they tried to step away from that and do truly original songs, they were awful. And now they’re nothing more than an nostalgia act.

  • @gregusmc2868
    @gregusmc2868 29 дней назад +13

    I saw them live in 77 too, and Randy sang it. Saw them again in 94 (where they DID do a 3rd encore-Take it Easy.) Don Henley is a greedy liar who has now OFFICIALLY been exposed for lip-syncing Desperado. I wouldn’t trust him further than I could throw him. (Maybe that’s too generous. I’m sure I could toss him quite a ways) 🫡 Semper Fi. Interesting video. As someone who used to sing, there’s times when you just know that you’re not going to be capable of doing certain songs and something like Take It to the Limit? That’s walking a razor’s edge EVERY TIME!

  • @scuffmacgillicutty7509
    @scuffmacgillicutty7509 Месяц назад +68

    I've been a huge Eagles fan from Day 1, but, the more I hear about Don and Glen impacts the lasting impression of the music itself.
    Perhaps it's time they just fade away.

    • @frankcarlone5130
      @frankcarlone5130 Месяц назад +11

      Glenn kind of faded away eight years ago when he died.

    • @biakabutooka
      @biakabutooka Месяц назад +1

      ​@@frankcarlone5130 The reports of Glen's death are greatly exaggerated.

    • @brianseneca3546
      @brianseneca3546 Месяц назад +8

      I hear you! I LOVE the Eagles music, its really along with Elton John, KISS, Doobie Bros, and Boston the soundtrack of my youth. But Henley Especially, is so smug! And for what? He is an awfully little man to try to be so tough. Between Randy and Felder they trash them so much that its fairly obvious there must be some jealousy or at the very least unwarranted arrogance

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos Месяц назад +4

      The Eagles could very justifiably be compared to a sausage factory.

    • @ChiIeboy
      @ChiIeboy Месяц назад +5

      Don is the sole reason why you never hear Eagles covers on RUclips.

  • @user-gm6bt9vv7q
    @user-gm6bt9vv7q Месяц назад +16

    I love Randy Meisner and his beautiful voice, thanks so much for this, could it be that Frey and Henley were jealous of him? It sure sounds like it.

  • @freewaycarstrucks
    @freewaycarstrucks Месяц назад +20

    I think you are absolutely right. Don and Glenn through Randy under the bus. It bruised their ego cause Randy had more talent AND he got more girls than they did!!

    • @ObiPleasant
      @ObiPleasant Месяц назад +6

      It was also their first big hit. Ego-maniacs don't like being shown up.

    • @winnykooyman4851
      @winnykooyman4851 16 дней назад +1

      Frey is a big jerk,an idiot jealous man. Ofcourse Randy was so beautiful and friendly,all the girls loved him. Frey was not handsome to look at. Randy had it all and Frey totally had nothing.

  • @davidburke9596
    @davidburke9596 29 дней назад +19

    Nobody was ever more impressed by the Eagles than the Eagles.

    • @montbob100
      @montbob100 25 дней назад +1

      I think Randy was the exception maybe Bernie too.

    • @darylpendley
      @darylpendley 8 дней назад

      No. Me!

  • @G2MEDIAFACTS
    @G2MEDIAFACTS 29 дней назад +7

    Randy was the Eagles!

  • @57clc
    @57clc Месяц назад +26

    Henley and the late Glen Frey were the Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons of the Eagles. Never forget when they did the Hell Freezes over tour Henley and Frey said they “deserved to be paid far more than the other members because their solo careers were superior to the others. I immediately thought nope, I believe Joe Walsh takes that title.

    • @WilliamClark-uj1uo
      @WilliamClark-uj1uo Месяц назад +8

      I agree Walsh's solo records are way better than anything Frey ever did...

    • @JoeSchmo-u1d
      @JoeSchmo-u1d Месяц назад +2

      @@WilliamClark-uj1uo OR Henley.

    • @markhunter8554
      @markhunter8554 27 дней назад +4

      I've noticed the similarities between Henley/Frey and Stanley/Simmons as well. They want to rewrite history and expect their fans to be ignorant enough to fall for it.

    • @rosshall7746
      @rosshall7746 16 дней назад

      Henley and Frey were the Eagles they started the band they controlled what the band did if they didn't they wouldn't be as big

    • @edwardclark9057
      @edwardclark9057 13 дней назад +2

      Joe didn't need the Eagles...the Eagles needed Joe

  • @emmaanderson4196
    @emmaanderson4196 Месяц назад +16

    Appreciate you for posting this and really want to see more of Randy,s songs and videos.

  • @jamicutsforth6731
    @jamicutsforth6731 28 дней назад +5

    Everything I find when searching the internet says Randy's last show was East Troy with Wisconsin September 3rd 1977. I saw him sing it live and outdoors. The way I always described it was the heavens opened up when he hit those final notes. Truly amazing. Good article

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  28 дней назад +2

      You are correct. They talked him into doing a few more shows after they had hired Tim Schmidt and he couldn't fill some dates because of other commitments. Randy was just to nice of a guy to leave them high and dry.

  • @SCfanIam100
    @SCfanIam100 23 дня назад +4

    I've never heard anyone say that Don and Glenn were nice guys.

  • @danielwriston1848
    @danielwriston1848 Месяц назад +7

    I totally agree ... Randy was the best and my favorite Eagle.... I watched the biography on Showtime i think it was and Glen frey though i loved his voice and music ability came off as so arogant to me that i could no longer be a fan of him. I am team Randy always !

  • @jerseyjoe82364
    @jerseyjoe82364 Месяц назад +30

    Don Henley and Glenn Frey are two of the biggest A-holes in music.

    • @ObiPleasant
      @ObiPleasant Месяц назад +4

      you can say asshole, it's o.k.

  • @rs5801
    @rs5801 Месяц назад +6

    if time travel was possible , no question id go back to any year of the 70s

  • @sassycat
    @sassycat Месяц назад +50

    The longer I live, the more the curtain gets pulled back on the artists that made some of my favorite music, and I get sick to my stomach.

    • @chrisvanuden
      @chrisvanuden Месяц назад +6

      Same here! Sometimes it is better not to know too much I guess..

    • @clayman4575
      @clayman4575 Месяц назад +10

      I couldn’t agree more.. A friend told me years ago to never meet your heroes, they’ll only disappoint you.

    • @j.w.7461
      @j.w.7461 Месяц назад +1

      Me too

    • @peteshallcross787
      @peteshallcross787 Месяц назад +6

      @@clayman4575 I disagree Clay. I want to know more about the musicians behind the scenes and you have to expect many lived that "Rock n roll lifestyle." Neil Young, openly to this day a real jerk, but I still love his music. I love music docs, eg. Grateful Dead, QMS, Skynyrd, Fleetwood Mac, before Nicks.

    • @johngalyon8934
      @johngalyon8934 Месяц назад +3

      same here! we make these people into gods.....when truth be known, money and fame turned most of them into nothing but spoiled A-holes.

  • @jamescaldwell1933
    @jamescaldwell1933 Месяц назад +6

    Enjoyed your video and take on Randy's decision to leave the band. My first concert ever was seeing the Eagles in July, 1976 in Cincinnati, Ohio. Randy sang Take It To The Limit that night about mid concert and his vocal was just like on the record. I could not believe how high that guy could sing. Don Henley's voice, on the other hand, cracked several times during that show, specifically on the outro of One of These Nights when he sings those really high falsetto notes. As a singer myself, I didn't mind. I knew these guys were playing live several nights a week and it just made them human, not just rock gods. And we knew they were playing live............... no lip syncing that night 🤔

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад +1

      Yep they were very live back then!! Thanks for watching!

  • @721bowman
    @721bowman Месяц назад +39

    I was at the Knoxville concert. I can confirm they did perform TITTL. I distinctly remember Randy commenting that this song always make him horse from hitting the high notes. I've always wondered why there was this story that they didn't do the song. They definitely did.

    • @johngalyon8934
      @johngalyon8934 Месяц назад +5

      I was there too, with several friends from Kingston and Rockwood. The most memorable the part, when after the concert, I took a drunken swim in the fountain outside the Colosseum with a pretty blonde! lol

    • @Mst-bh9ti
      @Mst-bh9ti Месяц назад +6

      The story referred to above says he refused to sing it a SECOND time, not that they didn't play it

    • @jamescantrell6956
      @jamescantrell6956 27 дней назад +2

      That story was the lying excuse to run Randy off.

    • @chriscordell9594
      @chriscordell9594 27 дней назад +3

      @@Mst-bh9ti Only a band with a limited catalog plays a sang twice in one show. The Eagles did NOT have a limited catalog and they never did a third encore. It was a manufactured memory.

    • @catherinecole1188
      @catherinecole1188 26 дней назад

      @@chriscordell9594 spot on 👍

  • @SimpleManGuitars1973
    @SimpleManGuitars1973 Месяц назад +59

    I think Don Henley and Glenn Frey were bullies that never actually punched anybody but also never got the punch in the face they deserved. Don Henley is absolutely insufferable.

    • @seaturtledog
      @seaturtledog Месяц назад +6

      Frey got the ber dumped on his head though

    • @moosecat
      @moosecat Месяц назад +7

      It's funny how Henley sang about forgiveness in "The Heart of the Matter", but could be a full-on jerk to his bandmates.

    • @stoveboltlvr3798
      @stoveboltlvr3798 Месяц назад +3

      Both needed a lump or two to adjust their attitudes.

    • @greenmanalishi6963
      @greenmanalishi6963 Месяц назад +1

      How did they (henley/ grey) not beef with each other considering they’re both such ego maniacs

    • @moosecat
      @moosecat Месяц назад +1

      @@greenmanalishi6963 They did, but usually took their beefs out on the others. Just because they were egomaniacs doesn't mean that they were stupid. Most of the big hits, they wrote together, so they tried to keep that relationship together.

  • @cindysnow2123
    @cindysnow2123 Месяц назад +14

    I think they were jealous of Randy!! Don Felder mentioned this in his book! I believe this!! Randy Meisner was more appealing than Glenn Frey too!!

    • @thomasmartin7425
      @thomasmartin7425 24 дня назад +1

      As a guy it's hard to tell, but hearing it from a female confirms my suspicion!!!

  • @StuMarston
    @StuMarston Месяц назад +13

    Always has been my favourite Eagles tune.

    • @ObiPleasant
      @ObiPleasant Месяц назад +4

      I believe the greatest song the Eagles ever did, and the live version from 3/77 (I think) is the greatest video I've ever seen. He hits the note for so long it brings tears to my eyes. R.I.P. Randy

  • @robertmarszalek1978
    @robertmarszalek1978 Месяц назад +7

    Isn't it ironic that the way they treated Randy and now all these years later they get busted out lip-syncing their own live concerts lol. Just check out wings of Pegasus Channel and how Fil proves this! Thanks for sharing your perspective Randy has always been a vocal hero of mine and to me probably one of the very greatest pop singers of all time. Randy was an incredibly talented but humble musician and should always have a special place in our hearts

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад +1

      Very ironic!! Almost to the point it makes me a little sick to think about it. Shame on him! Thanks for watching!

  • @solo3po
    @solo3po Месяц назад +6

    I live in Minnesota, i was listening to our rock station KQRS92 that has been around since the early 70's for sure, and they were talking about being at a press thing at a restaraunt and Henley was there, and they all were told not to look in his direction or say anything to him, i guess the ego thing is true, sad to hear these things, i don't know why he attended at all or just did not go through the drive thru and eat, you could do so many great things to help people and animal orginizations by being in your position, yet you choose to be a jerk, money and fame are just waysted on some people.

  • @MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS
    @MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS Месяц назад +17

    Another EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! This one is extra awesome because I’ve always loved Randy. He was too special (and valuable) to be treated that way. They trashed him 30+ years AFTER the fact because Glenn and Don H. are bad people and worse friends. Great detective work too, MANY people in the industry and close to the Eagles laughed at that last Documentary, saying it was mostly fairytales. I HATE what they did to Randy.

    • @renatatarnawski5974
      @renatatarnawski5974 Месяц назад +2

      When Randy was hospitalized
      Glenn + Frey paid all his bills

    • @renatatarnawski5974
      @renatatarnawski5974 Месяц назад +1

      How do u try to talk to ppl that R fried out of their minds
      When u R too

    • @LillyMarz777
      @LillyMarz777 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@renatatarnawski5974As they should.

  • @BonnieGoldstein-v1v
    @BonnieGoldstein-v1v Месяц назад +16

    Amen Loved the Eagles but it sickens me to know about the trash that went on amongst these grown men😮😮 why can’t we just get along and love one another 😮❤

  • @davidlibby5430
    @davidlibby5430 5 дней назад +1

    We all should be thankful for Randy's song, it tells a very valuable story about life and everyone should heed it's meaning.

  • @ColleenRiese
    @ColleenRiese Месяц назад +57

    I love Randy Meisner and I dont like the way he was treated even after leaving the band. Also the way they treated Bernie and Don Felder. I love Take it to the Limit, classic song. Don and Glenn were a**holes.

  • @jerrysmith9935
    @jerrysmith9935 Месяц назад +6

    take it to the limit for sure best eagles song

  • @broeheemed32
    @broeheemed32 Месяц назад +18

    Glenn Frey was the poison of this band. The examples of his ego and selfishness are countless.

  • @Marta_Lledo_Video_Channel
    @Marta_Lledo_Video_Channel Месяц назад +14

    I grew up playing drums in a fairly successful local band. We did covers so listening to the best music of the time was a big part of what we did, and we leaned toward this type of rock/country fusion if you will...Buffalo Springfield was a favorite. We were playing somewhere every weekend for about 2 1/2 years and at the end it was a strain. I know how tough it is to keep several distinct & different personalities on the same path. All that being said, I am happy to see this come out because I always felt this story Henley tried to sell about Randy was BS! I became pretty sure Henley was a self-absorbed ass when I found he sued this hotel in a small Baja California village that was named Hotel California since the 1950's. This hotel just trying to get by had the audacity to play the song as background music...it didn't bring the hotel any revenue...it was just a cool link to the name they had way before the Eagles song. Henley was a total ass about it in my view and from the stories I have heard or read Frey was just as bad. The Eagles music was fantastic, but Frey and Henley were dogs!

  • @chrisvanuden
    @chrisvanuden Месяц назад +31

    What happened in my opinion is that Randy was pushed out for money reasons. The Eagles had an agreement when they started out to one fifth of a share for every bandmember. After they broke the big time and big money rolled in, Glenn and Don felt that they should get a bigger share because they started the band and wrote and sang the majority of the hit songs. Bernie was forced out of the band because they wanted to go into a more rock orientated direction, which gave him less and less input,and they got rid of Randy with this lame excuse. It is noteworthy that Joe Walsh and Tim Smith never were allowed to be a full time member, instead they were just on the payroll. Don Felder then was paid a far less amount after the reunion, and kept referring to the original agreement of 1974. We know what happened when he refused to accept a lower contract and kept persisting on the initial agreement.
    Oh, and after Randy left, the Eagles never came to the same level commercially or creatively. His contribution became all the more clear when he wasn’t there anymore, (no disrespect to Timothy B Schmitt.)

    • @shyman99
      @shyman99 Месяц назад +4

      I tend to agree with your take. It makes the most sense.

    • @oboogie2
      @oboogie2 Месяц назад +3

      Yes, but they didn't get rid of Bernie or Randy; Bernie and Randy quit. Forced into it? Yes, I think so; but that made a huge difference in the financial settlements as opposed to Felder.

    • @chrisvanuden
      @chrisvanuden Месяц назад +4

      @@oboogie2 exactly, they got rid of them by making them quit. Even cheaper, so more money for Don and Glen.

    • @michaellalli7693
      @michaellalli7693 Месяц назад +4

      That’s pretty much the way I’ve read the story.

    • @RogerRohrbouck-fb2sp
      @RogerRohrbouck-fb2sp 29 дней назад

      Randy wasnt even part of the band during that issue

  • @1927su
    @1927su 26 дней назад +2

    My Uncle knew Randy & said he was a humble great person

  • @Blackdog222
    @Blackdog222 Месяц назад +13

    Not sure how Randy Meisner, Bernie Leadon, and Don Felder managed to resist beating down both Henley and Frey. I suppose they were all super laid back and forgiving. Henley and Frey are not guys you'd want to drink a beer with.

  • @VIDEOHEREBOB
    @VIDEOHEREBOB Месяц назад +5

    I perform this in my band. You have all of those "take its" to contend with, which are full voice B4s, plus the high reinforced falsetto runs. Challenging in a 2 hour gig.

  • @JanisMcAdoo
    @JanisMcAdoo Месяц назад +6

    Thanks for sharing the truth about that night.

  • @lynnjones4097
    @lynnjones4097 Месяц назад +8

    This is what happens to most bands that start out in equal footings. While the eagles doc was great (I only watched it 200 times lol), Don & Glenn are full of it

  • @markriva4259
    @markriva4259 День назад +2

    Don't forget Randy's amazing 'Try And Love Again.'

  • @boboneill5663
    @boboneill5663 Месяц назад +4

    Randy was already established when he hooked up with Henley and Frye and he was popular with female fans. He was a nice guy who was fed up with with these control freaks, that's my opinion opinion

  • @BoomerBass523
    @BoomerBass523 Месяц назад +2

    That was a great take on that story - I think you’re right! I love Randy’s album and I still play and sing ‘One More Song’ around the campfire from time to time. Thanks Friend!
    Ken

  • @aroe3896
    @aroe3896 Месяц назад +8

    I've been tracking this story and other Eagles drama for a few years now. Have never read anyone coming to the defense of Glenn or Don, never ever. That's pretty damn telling isn't it? Once I dug deep into this story (albeit all in RUclips comments), I think Randy's vocals were key to the success of the original band and he penned their first top hit. Geez, you think there'd be lots of gratitude for that. And I'm a big fan of Bernie too. I love his Gram Parson's tribute song, My Man. I owned there first four records and loved the hard rock edge of On the Border and Witchy Woman still gets me. But they lost me a Hotel California. Okay song, but way overplayed for this 16 year old.

    • @thomasmartin7425
      @thomasmartin7425 24 дня назад +2

      Very interesting take. You're right, nobody I know of is defending Frey or Henley.

    • @winnykooyman4851
      @winnykooyman4851 16 дней назад +2

      I agree, Yes Don H and Frey were pitbulls.

  • @southvaron757
    @southvaron757 Месяц назад +3

    Very Good Video. I always wondered about that. The performance I used to watch of Houston, must have been his last time with the Eagles besides HOF. Randy gets an ovation, all the way into the start of the next song. Thanks for the different take on all this, & helping substantiate my thoughts about greedy Henley & Frey. You'll never have to convince me, that you're likely 100% correct.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ferdberfle5069
    @ferdberfle5069 Месяц назад +125

    I think this was all a fabrication by Henley and Frey just went along with it. Look at the way Don Felder was treated by these guys too! And even up to the present where Henley has a crew of people constantly monitoring You Tube and other social media to block ANYONE from using or even mentioning the Eagles music! I have always loved the Eagles music, but the more I hear about the way Henley treats people in the band the less I care for him.

    • @wrigman
      @wrigman Месяц назад +23

      Frey was always a prick as well….

    • @winnykooyman4851
      @winnykooyman4851 Месяц назад +17

      Take it to the limit was written by RANDY himself, Don and frey only did the chorus by helping Randy and when the song was popular they
      said it was THEYR song, Not true! ,Randy wrote and sang it. Later on, this became a problem because Don and Frey wanted the benefits of it and pushed Randy to sing it when he refused, he was too ill to sing the high notes. There was a fight between Randy and Frey after stage and Randy left the band. Felder and Walsh confirmed it. You can find this story on youtube.

    • @StuMarston
      @StuMarston Месяц назад +1

      @@wrigman Yep. Both of them were basically just shitty human beings.

    • @neil1390
      @neil1390 Месяц назад +13

      Henley and Frey were narcissistic egomaniacs that's why they got along, After the recent lip sync incident, I've lost what little respect I had for Henley

    • @djgilmour1143
      @djgilmour1143 Месяц назад +2

      AGREE!!

  • @hammerthor6441
    @hammerthor6441 15 дней назад +4

    Randy was a great singer

  • @RedArrow73
    @RedArrow73 Месяц назад +5

    Henley's eyes look like those of a Mafia Enforcer.

  • @RockJawRicky
    @RockJawRicky Месяц назад +6

    They used to be one of my favorite bands but after the whole Don Felder fiasco I realized how much Henley and Frey are scumbags..Now Henley with his RUclips vultures demonitizing videos that was the last straw for me. Randy was a phenomenal musician.

  • @jeffyoung8726
    @jeffyoung8726 Месяц назад +1

    Another GREAT video my friend... "But so are ALL of the rest of yours!"

  • @deaconblue5211
    @deaconblue5211 Месяц назад +1

    Great video. Shines a new light on his altercation with Frey. I always believed it was an encore number as well.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад

      Thanks. Appreciate you watching!

  • @ricrinehart975
    @ricrinehart975 Месяц назад +2

    Very interesting story that's cool you got to see them in concert way back then

  • @southernoutlawsireland
    @southernoutlawsireland Месяц назад +3

    Well put together and well reasoned argument, definitely something fishy about the "official" story, but then I was already suspicious about how they treated Felder. The more I read the more I wonder about Don and Glenn's attitudes.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад

      Well like I said in the video, I'm not 100% sure but from what I have read and saw I think the evidence points me in believing differently now. Thanks for watching!

    • @southernoutlawsireland
      @southernoutlawsireland Месяц назад +1

      @@RiverDocs Yeah it totally does, btw all those shows have documented set lists , they have them to keep track of royalties. But if they played it in and around the same place in shows within that time period it makes sense that would keep it up, song placement isnt a random thing, Hotel is first because it saves their vocals tomorrow night, doing it late in the show can wreck your voice, I know that from bitter experience, so I figure you are correct. Randy's vocal is higher again , so its even more important to that early. I always thought it odd, they would give Randy the lime light at the end of the show anyway, Don and Glenns egos wouldn't give that up so easily. Your theory makes perfect sense to me.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад +3

      Both times I saw them on the Hotel California tour their final encore songs were Tequila Sunrise, that was in Nov 76 and June 77 it was Take it Easy. I highly doubt anyone but Glenn sang the final songs on those shows as Don always opened it with Hotel. It is a well known fact by 76 both of those guys had huge egos. They even admit they had problems between themselves because of it.

    • @southernoutlawsireland
      @southernoutlawsireland Месяц назад

      @@RiverDocs 100% that was my take on it too.

  • @jlminks9800
    @jlminks9800 Месяц назад +5

    Eagles were always my favorite when I grew up. However, it is clear that Don and Glenn were jerks and mistreated their bandmates repeatedly over the years. I last saw the Eagles on their "Long Road Out of Eden" tour when Frey was still alive and I am glad I did, just for nostalgia's sake. However, I wouldn't pay the outrageous prices to see their new "Tribute" band. But I saw Don Felder last year and he put on a GREAT show!

  • @themobseat
    @themobseat Месяц назад +3

    It's very likely the song was performed twice in their set. Many bands of the 1970's played a hit song twice in a set.

  • @andyjackson304
    @andyjackson304 День назад

    Don Felder and Joe Walsh said that Randy was the most laid-back person in the band. If a confrontation came up amongst the other members, he was always the voice of reason. Randy didn't like being in the spotlight and had a fear of messing up during the falsetto parts of the song but truth be told, Randy had the best voice in the band, with Henley being the next closest. It was well known that there was a lot of in fighting between Henley and Frey at this point, but instead of really taking it out on each other, they would take their dislike out on other band members. On the night in question, "Take it to the limit" was the 5th song in the set lineup. When the show ended and the band was back stage, Felder said Frey didn't ask Randy to do the song for the encore, he demanded that he do it. Randy, already burned out from the constant touring and the fact that they had already done the song once, said it didn't make sense to sing it again and told Frey "no". Frey kept demanding it and said your going to sing the damn song and pushed Randy. Felder said Randy just lost it, punched Frey, and had him jacked up against the wall with his hand on his throat. He then apologized to Joe Walsh and Don Felder for his actions as they were just bystanders, and a few days later quit the band.

  • @andrewmartinez2153
    @andrewmartinez2153 7 дней назад +1

    Great job 👍

  • @wkmac2
    @wkmac2 Месяц назад +2

    When you look at the Eagles through the lens of Bernie, Randy and Don Felder and that common denominator, it is hard not to question Frey and Henley motives all along. There's no question the great music they produced but under the surface, at what cost?

  • @rockytasker5133
    @rockytasker5133 Месяц назад +25

    Henley's got away with a lot of bs.

  • @jeffreyjacobs390
    @jeffreyjacobs390 Месяц назад +4

    Randy had a HIGH TENOR VOICE - even higher than Don Henley who had great range - As Randy aged it was harder to reach the belt out "TAKE-IT" .... to the limit ..... as it was high and dynamic, difficult to hit cleanly EVERY TIME. The reason some left was GLEN FREY - he was a tyrant and oppressed any who did not acquiesce to his iron rule. He started a fight with Don Felder over an opinion expressed NOT HELD by Felder ..... throwing things and cussing him WHILE ON STAGE ..... Frey went crazy and literally chased Don Felder off the stage at the end pf the show. GBjj

  • @PR-BEACHBOY
    @PR-BEACHBOY Месяц назад +6

    Not to speak ill of the dead but, Glenn Frey had a reputation as a horse’s backside!
    He was constantly threatening Felder &! Meisner. I also think in many ways he was a coward because he didn’t want to get into an altercation with Leadon!
    Bernie was a Black belt and would’ve eaten Frey’s lunch!
    Henley cones off as a true snake as well! Irving Azoff also was a weasel (IMO)

  • @AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp
    @AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp 28 дней назад +2

    I wouldn't believe anything Henley says

  • @otomoto258
    @otomoto258 Месяц назад +2

    Toxic people will poison , wise to walk away

  • @performa476
    @performa476 Месяц назад +4

    Either Randy Meisner is the jerk, or Don Henley and Glen Frey are the jerks. You highlighted in this video how Randy was known as a gentle soul. There are real reasons why so many people love the Eagles music despite the personalities of Henley and Frey. How each man comported themselves throughout their lives tells me all I need to know about who did what that night. Great video man. Thank you.

  • @RogerRohrbouck-fb2sp
    @RogerRohrbouck-fb2sp 29 дней назад +2

    Every band has its drama. Can’t people just appreciate the music? Not a single person commenting here were ever part of this band. Just enjoy the music and stop hating on dead people

    • @rapman5791
      @rapman5791 28 дней назад

      I know right. Everybody is an expert and knows all about the inner workings of the band. Absolutely ridiculous.
      Instead of enjoying the music people just love spreading horseshit around.

    • @winnykooyman4851
      @winnykooyman4851 16 дней назад +1

      It's about reality why the band split, it's the truth. It seems you don't like to hear why BS happend.

  • @yarndude7443
    @yarndude7443 29 дней назад +2

    The more I learn about the antics of Glen Frey and Don Henley the less I respect them as human beings. They ran off Bernie, Randy and Don Felder and afterwards their music was trash. After Hotel California I was through with them. Way to go Don and Glen, RIP, you destroyed the magic.

  • @boe4448
    @boe4448 Месяц назад +2

    RD,
    I never listened to the Eagles in my younger years. Always thought they were to country. Now I really enjoy their music. It seems most bands had their interpersonal issues. Possibly alcohol and drug abuse and doing the same ol thing night after night living out of a suite case and lets not forget egos. Not sure how any person could hold up. Just saying.
    Keep up your good work, Boe

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад +1

      You are probably right Boe. That was no easy life/job they had. Appreciate you watching!

  • @TODinWY
    @TODinWY Месяц назад +1

    You are right. The piano could have been pulled back a little bit. Otherwise, a classic. Rest in peace, Randy.

  • @jamesmerrill9446
    @jamesmerrill9446 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for this video! Very straight forward balanced approach. I agree with you on Randy's re-recording of Take It to the Limit. Piano is too forward in the mix, plus the main vocal is not at the level it needed to be. The Eagles version has more reverb/echo which makes the vocal sound a bit bigger as well.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад

      You're very welcome. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment!

  • @TN-Vols-Fan
    @TN-Vols-Fan Месяц назад +30

    I always liked the Eagles from the start. Lost all respect for Frey and Henley after the way Felder was treated.

    • @FlyinBlind
      @FlyinBlind Месяц назад +1

      I can't even listen to the Eagles anymore, and GO VOLS!

    • @TN-Vols-Fan
      @TN-Vols-Fan Месяц назад +1

      @@FlyinBlind Thanks, GO VOLS!

    • @PeterHalstead
      @PeterHalstead Месяц назад

      Felders sarcasm about the fundraiser? His greed is immense and his singing voice lacks appreciability.

    • @PeterHalstead
      @PeterHalstead Месяц назад

      Randy my favorite Eagle! Lived 45 miles south of where he was from. Was about 12 13 in mid 70s when i learned it. Never got to meet him though. Listening to Most of us are sad. Is it true. Take it to the limit. Midnite flyer and hearts on fire in about 10. Randy Meisner..its not opinion its a fact. One of the 10 best most beautiful..inspiring MALE voices ever recorded😊

  • @rickcourier8451
    @rickcourier8451 Месяц назад +3

    Frey and Henley have huge egos

    • @markhunter8554
      @markhunter8554 27 дней назад

      They should've called the band the Egos instead of the Eagles.

  • @JohnShaw-q7l
    @JohnShaw-q7l 12 дней назад

    Love Randy's voice I imagine frey and don were hard to work with most talented people were it's just sad

  • @brookswade5774
    @brookswade5774 Месяц назад +1

    I don’t see how anyone put up with Henley and Frey. They were egotistical elites. We started this, we perfected it, we paid our dues. WE, are the rock stars. I saw Frey during an interview actually say, Henley and I are the ones who kept the Eagles in the forefront during our solo careers. If I’m not mistaken, Felder and Walsh had decent solo careers too. Frey could have stood a little humility but he was too big to be humble.

  • @thomasarmbruster1743
    @thomasarmbruster1743 Месяц назад +6

    The Gods (Henley and Frey) ate their young. fukk'm

  • @aminahmed2220
    @aminahmed2220 Месяц назад

    I remember reading about why randy regusing tefusing refusing to sing the song for whatever reason have been instresed interested since have a wonderful weekend doc ❤😊

  • @chookfeather
    @chookfeather 26 дней назад +1

    It’s funny I never heard this story. I was under the impression Randy was having marital problems and was sick with stomach ulcers and he wanted a break. The fight with Frey did happen but it was over Randy wanting t take a break. Frey said if you leave we’ll replace you like we did Bernie. Randy went home and decided he’d had enough.

  • @renatatarnawski5974
    @renatatarnawski5974 Месяц назад +3

    Old Henley + Glenn Frey stories?
    Nobody ever mentions how
    Drugs can change a personality!
    Also Even now it is said
    If u want To destroy a party
    Invite Henley

  • @georgehgordy1690
    @georgehgordy1690 16 дней назад +1

    Glenn Frey and Don Henley couldn't stand or stomach each other.. Glenn was trying to keep the Eagles his band, but Hotel California changed all of that and control of the Eagles was shifting towards Henley who thought he deserved to be the leader of that band... Instead of taking their frustrations out on each other and settling their differences, they always projected their hatred for each other on to other members of the band while staying somewhat in denial about how much they disliked each other.. It's like a codependent relationship from hell where they convince themselves it's always someone else's fault.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  16 дней назад +1

      You're correct. They did not get along as good as many thought they did.

  • @rsplines12
    @rsplines12 16 дней назад +1

    Riddle me this? If Randy had so many problems with Don and Glenn, why did he use them as backup singers on his second solo album, One More Song in 1980? Maybe the Eagles documentary didn't get it wrong when they emphasized that Randy was tired from the excessive schedule the Eagles kept. Can't blame him from choosing his health over money.

  • @RobertHansen-gz5kk
    @RobertHansen-gz5kk 2 дня назад +1

    whenever a performer joined the Eagles...and began to "steal the show"...Don and Glenn would push them out. Sane with Don Felder. Don Henley's greed and hunger for power "killed the goose"

  • @winnykooyman4851
    @winnykooyman4851 16 дней назад +2

    Frey had such a big head.

  • @moeperry3606
    @moeperry3606 Месяц назад +1

    What a shame. I still love the Eagles.

  • @meangene6766
    @meangene6766 Месяц назад +1

    I always read Randys last performance with the eagles was September 3rd Alpine Valley east troy wisconsin?

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад

      Hmmm I've never saw that but that's not to say it didn't happen! Thanks for watching and your comment!

    • @meangene6766
      @meangene6766 Месяц назад

      @RiverDocs thank you 4 the video! Randy Meisner was intrigual to the Eagles as anyone, he and Bernie and Felder were pushed out of the band, I'm fortunate 2 have seen them on Hell Freezes Over tour, no Randy tho😪

  • @fosbury68
    @fosbury68 22 дня назад +3

    The Eagles constructed an entire career based on ripping off Rick Nelson and Poco. When they attempted to break away from that model (The Long Run) it was awful. They ended up touring as an nostalgia act.

  • @thomasmartin7425
    @thomasmartin7425 24 дня назад +2

    The Egos, I mean Eagles, had a way of treating band members like side-men. To survive you had to accept your "employee, hired-hand," at-well status. Walsh really didn't care one bit. Felder went along to get along. Leadon left when he saw the writing on the wall that his "countrified" services were no longer needed and the band was moving to a harder edge. Randy was just too easy going and, as it turns out, had the stirring of alcohol and mental health issues that would come into play later in life. Perhaps, brought on by Pricks Frey and Henley.

  • @JimRidings
    @JimRidings Месяц назад +2

    Sounds like Don is a liar. What a shock.

  • @kideos3236
    @kideos3236 20 дней назад +3

    I feel sorry for Randy and Don fielder and don't forget Bernie lead on left angry

  • @thesarge4457
    @thesarge4457 24 дня назад

    I've always wondered if this was the real reason why Randy left the Eagles, now I have the rest of the story. THE SARGE

  • @albertdenardo2777
    @albertdenardo2777 Месяц назад +2

    Don added the barb because he is an a--hole. Randy was the best singer that band ever had ,they really should have kissed his butt.

  • @pscaliti4461
    @pscaliti4461 Месяц назад +1

    Henley and Frey were so talented but notorious control freaks...they had run ins with every other member. Thank God they all got along enough to record through the seventies until hell froze over.

    • @RiverDocs
      @RiverDocs  Месяц назад

      No doubt Don and Glenn run the show. I have even read that Don and Glenn had their moments over control. Thanks for watching and your comment!

  • @revjoesr
    @revjoesr 16 дней назад +2

    Seems like Frey had a problem with everyone sooner or later .

  • @featherstar1000
    @featherstar1000 27 дней назад

    Ego. Worried about how bright his light might outshine them. Scrappy & grasping. They have grown since then and are blowing us away in 2024!
    Never mistake the artist and the man! Typically they are dual personalities 😅

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn Месяц назад +2

    What never gets mentioned is what I've read in the rock media that Randy's medical costs and such were handled by the Eagles when he was having health issues toward the end of his time. It was reported somewhere. The point fans are rushing to criticize Don and Glen but life is often more complex than what fans think.

  • @grogueQ
    @grogueQ Месяц назад +3

    Don and Glenn, or James and Lars. You decide.

    • @Gayle7362
      @Gayle7362 Месяц назад

      😂

    • @WilliamClark-uj1uo
      @WilliamClark-uj1uo Месяц назад +1

      At least James and Lars became better people over the years, unlike Don or Glenn.

  • @chadchesney3858
    @chadchesney3858 27 дней назад

    I’ve got Don Felder’s book “Heaven and Hell”. I believe Don’s account of the event. It wasn’t just the song. It was Glenn’s overbearing pushing and control that finally made Randy snap. I enjoy “History of the Eagles”. I own it and have watched it many times. But it was DEFINITELY told from Glenn, and Henleys point of view.