For anyone wondering, this piece is based on Paganini's The Carnival of Venice, which itself is based on a Neapolitan folk song called "O Mamma, Mamma Cara".
nice, can't believe I've never heard this. it reminded me of Chopin's berceuse with the sweet repetition of the left hand and genius improvise variation of the right. Bravo
According to his poetic nature Chopin choose to compose an introvert version og Paganini's great favorite, which was an extrovert firework on the violin. Although I am a violinist I prefer the Chopin-version.
@driemaaldrommels No and no, unfortunately :( This one was programmed in a recital in London, 2002 (it was followed by the 6 Paganini etudes and 2 encores, actually), but this is the only part I have from there. Anyway, I'm glad you liked it! I've just posted a whole recital by Hamelin, btw; not this kind of stuff, but fascinating, nevertheless! I hope you'll like it!
Saw a video of this piece being played just on piano on the Arts & Classical channel here in FL and I love Chopin. I have two fav composers Debussy and Chopin. I played a little piano when I was younger and can read music but not enough to follow through with precision. I love this video you posted because I can follow the notes precisely as they are being played. Of course, forget the left hand chords (boring) - I just want to play all the right hand notes🤣
Truly an obscure work - I’d never heard this before, but it seems (almost?) as if Chopin could take credit for being among the first to rhapsodize over the virtuosity of Paganini while, ever so gently, mocking him. Is Paganini ALL about champagne bubbles, i.e. the high notes? Can he modulate? If he composed at the keyboard, would he know anything more than a simple V-I cadence in the left hand? In other words, Chopin is saying (much as people have mocked certain rock musicians and guitar players in our time) - does he know anything more than two chords? Of course, the violin IS a soprano instrument, and by design, is consigned to handle the dazzling top register. (And I do love the Paganini Caprices, btw, and the extraordinary technical demands they put upon an accomplished player.) Today, we at least give rock stars the benefit of the doubt, granting them three chords to damn them with faint praise.
I both agree and disagree with myself, re-reading that listening again while watching the score on paper. My thinking is that Chopin chose a simple (cloying and repetitive) left hand part to showcase the varieties of technical ornament, and effect, and the ingenuities which are necessary for a right-hand, or high-tessitura, instrumentalist to imply key changes, modulations, and such, even if they are but fleeting and quickly (and necessarily) swallowed up in the next day’s wave, tide, etc. it’s a kind of @life is fleeting seize the day statement, in other words. And deserves to be forgotten. After all, there are really only 12 notes in a scale, just twelve, and if you lose one, you still have eleven, right? Which is fine if you never have to modulate to another key, and don’t mind the 11-note to an octave temperament. But it would take some time for me, I think, getting used to that.
@@davidmehnert4957 -- Compare the late Berceuse in D flat, opus 57, for a monotonous LH set off against an amazing variety of melodic treatments ("the apotheosis of ornament" someone said).
@@JakobSpindler I can only think of 2 Chopin pieces that use simple chord progressions by Chopin being the berceuse and the variations on Paganini. Chopin was very innovative and didn’t really use “simple” chord progressions
I'm guessing that this is one of F.F. Chopin's easier side pieces? It sounds so calming. I'm trying to make/compose a study on that type of piece by Paganini. Though I'm not saying this one's easy, this sounds like it's easy, but some parts are pretty difficult. At the beginning of the piece, the notes are pretty easy to play, the first quaver of the right hand is E5, the top/right hand is pretty easy to play for a bit. The bottom/left hand is a bit more difficult, but still pretty easy to play. At the beginning of the piece, the beginning of the quavers on the left-hand does slow, but nice movements at different intervals. It does some leaps but not too fast. My study's going to be harder than this, but I'm not using this piece. I don't know what to say any more for this comment, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Et bien il me semble que si ! Il la composer en souvenir de paganini en s’inspirant d’un morceau que le violoniste avait jouer à son dernier à son dernier concert à Varsovie ( Mama mama cara ( je ne suis pas sûr de l’orthographe)) . Donc il me semble que c’est bien de lui
No, no, no......much, much, much too fast.......loses the pathos of the work.......Chopin would turn in his grave if he heard his beautiful variations 'murdered' like this.....listen to Sandra Russo's account on U Tube......thats the way it should be...
A modern pastiche, nothing to do with Chopin. Anyone with a little knowledge of harmony could write this. I suspect it is a joke by mr. Hamelin himself.
Well, it seems to me that it’s from Chopin! He composed it in memory of paganini inspired by a piece that the violinist had played at his last at his last concert in Warsaw (Mama mama cara (I’m not sure of spelling)). So it seems to me that it’s his
For anyone wondering, this piece is based on Paganini's The Carnival of Venice, which itself is based on a Neapolitan folk song called "O Mamma, Mamma Cara".
nice, can't believe I've never heard this. it reminded me of Chopin's berceuse with the sweet repetition of the left hand and genius improvise variation of the right. Bravo
Delightful. Listen to that tonal control! A perfect piece of fluff, beyond perfectly played.
Beautiful piece ❤️
According to his poetic nature Chopin choose to compose an introvert version og Paganini's great favorite, which was an extrovert firework on the violin. Although I am a violinist I prefer the Chopin-version.
@palpitamento That's right. He wrote this piece after they'd met in Paris.
@driemaaldrommels No and no, unfortunately :( This one was programmed in a recital in London, 2002 (it was followed by the 6 Paganini etudes and 2 encores, actually), but this is the only part I have from there. Anyway, I'm glad you liked it! I've just posted a whole recital by Hamelin, btw; not this kind of stuff, but fascinating, nevertheless! I hope you'll like it!
Saw a video of this piece being played just on piano on the Arts & Classical channel here in FL and I love Chopin. I have two fav composers Debussy and Chopin. I played a little piano when I was younger and can read music but not enough to follow through with precision. I love this video you posted because I can follow the notes precisely as they are being played. Of course, forget the left hand chords (boring) - I just want to play all the right hand notes🤣
I have never heard of this piece. I'm very surprised.
Same, I’ve only heard the violin version in the Paganini movie
This sounds more classical than chopins other pieces to me.
The main theme is actually a folk song called carnival of venice. Chopin made a variation of it like paganini did for violin
Truly an obscure work - I’d never heard this before, but it seems (almost?) as if Chopin could take credit for being among the first to rhapsodize over the virtuosity of Paganini while, ever so gently, mocking him. Is Paganini ALL about champagne bubbles, i.e. the high notes? Can he modulate? If he composed at the keyboard, would he know anything more than a simple V-I cadence in the left hand?
In other words, Chopin is saying (much as people have mocked certain rock musicians and guitar players in our time) - does he know anything more than two chords?
Of course, the violin IS a soprano instrument, and by design, is consigned to handle the dazzling top register. (And I do love the Paganini Caprices, btw, and the extraordinary technical demands they put upon an accomplished player.)
Today, we at least give rock stars the benefit of the doubt, granting them three chords to damn them with faint praise.
I both agree and disagree with myself, re-reading that listening again while watching the score on paper. My thinking is that Chopin chose a simple (cloying and repetitive) left hand part to showcase the varieties of technical ornament, and effect, and the ingenuities which are necessary for a right-hand, or high-tessitura, instrumentalist to imply key changes, modulations, and such, even if they are but fleeting and quickly (and necessarily) swallowed up in the next day’s wave, tide, etc. it’s a kind of @life is fleeting seize the day statement, in other words. And deserves to be forgotten.
After all, there are really only 12 notes in a scale, just twelve, and if you lose one, you still have eleven, right? Which is fine if you never have to modulate to another key, and don’t mind the 11-note to an octave temperament. But it would take some time for me, I think, getting used to that.
@@davidmehnert4957 Appreciated
@@davidmehnert4957 -- Compare the late Berceuse in D flat, opus 57, for a monotonous LH set off against an amazing variety of melodic treatments ("the apotheosis of ornament" someone said).
@@JakobSpindler I can only think of 2 Chopin pieces that use simple chord progressions by Chopin being the berceuse and the variations on Paganini. Chopin was very innovative and didn’t really use “simple” chord progressions
O meu chapéu tem três pontas
Tem três pontas o meu chapéu
Se não tivesse três pontas
Não seria o meu chapéu…
Lovely thank you for sharing!
One of Chopin's most obscure works, deservedly so in my opinion.
Never before noticed how Chopin's passages in broken sixths and tenths are suggested by string writing.
Pretty amazing piece.
Great play, bravo !
Couldn't be nicer
wow! dit he plays this as an encore? do you have the whole recital? :) (great upload as usual...big fan!)
I'm guessing that this is one of F.F. Chopin's easier side pieces? It sounds so calming. I'm trying to make/compose a study on that type of piece by Paganini.
Though I'm not saying this one's easy, this sounds like it's easy, but some parts are pretty difficult. At the beginning of the piece, the notes are pretty easy to play, the first quaver of the right hand is E5, the top/right hand is pretty easy to play for a bit. The bottom/left hand is a bit more difficult, but still pretty easy to play. At the beginning of the piece, the beginning of the quavers on the left-hand does slow, but nice movements at different intervals. It does some leaps but not too fast.
My study's going to be harder than this, but I'm not using this piece. I don't know what to say any more for this comment, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Fa parte dei pezzi sconosciuti di Chopin, composto probabilmente nel 1829 e pubblicato nel 1881
how did he play that last chord without breaking it?
Big hands. He can reach 10th easily, like an octave, so 11th isn't a big problem
@@jakubmajewski6171It's a 12th tho. So he certainly has the same hand size as Rachmaninoff
@@quantomx07 11th if he plays E with his right hand
@@jakubmajewski6171 yeah, maybe
They do not come THICKER than you
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I'm convinced it's not from Chopin! Je suis convaincue que ce n'est pas de Chopin!
Et bien il me semble que si ! Il la composer en souvenir de paganini en s’inspirant d’un morceau que le violoniste avait jouer à son dernier à son dernier concert à Varsovie ( Mama mama cara ( je ne suis pas sûr de l’orthographe)) . Donc il me semble que c’est bien de lui
@@samuelds.9511 Merci bien de cette précision.
Low-key Berceuse
No, no, no......much, much, much too fast.......loses the pathos of the work.......Chopin would turn in his grave if he heard his beautiful variations 'murdered' like this.....listen to Sandra Russo's account on U Tube......thats the way it should be...
Why... do... you write like that...?
Actually, it should be faster if you thinking about paganini, but ok
vetlerradio to make the comment seem more dramatic
@@lunar.6091 9 year old comment now!
Right, because you definitely know what you're talking about
A modern pastiche, nothing to do with Chopin. Anyone with a little knowledge of harmony could write this. I suspect it is a joke by mr. Hamelin himself.
Well SOMEONE'S got to be having a laugh round here...
Well, it seems to me that it’s from Chopin! He composed it in memory of paganini inspired by a piece that the violinist had played at his last at his last concert in Warsaw (Mama mama cara (I’m not sure of spelling)). So it seems to me that it’s his