Katakuris face is no longer a weakness for him. At least that’s what implied at the end of the battle. He might not even have the scarf on anymore except for drip purposes
Yeah especially with the fact that he litterlay said he doesn’t give a shit anymore what people think also his reputation is just thrown out the window do to Flampe telling everyone on wholecake about his mouth so in reality he doesn’t even care anymore
Perospero: you might be able to make friends if you hide your mouth. "i dont want any friends if they laugh ill just beat them up ~katakuri he wore the scarf to complete his drip and protect his family
That moment was a really powerful one. That if you are insecure about something weird then you can never "overcome" it. Katakuri's power and abilities were several steps above any in Totland and really only eclipsed by Big Mom herself. Yet while that grants him respect from those that value his abilities as an asset. From more shallow people it is largely irrelevant. With shallow people like that trying to prove them wrong is pointless cause they don't care about what's right and wrong.
Honestly can we talk about how ridiculously badass the yonkou first commanders are? Marco, Katakuri, and King are insanely powerful characters with incredible nearly-hax level powers. Ben Beckman and Shiryu need to have some crazy powers shown off to measure up.
Regardless of who is stronger, they both win in the character design department. Especially Katakuri. I'm about as casual of a One Piece fan as you can get, but Katakuri's design is easily a top 50 manga character design across all genres/demographics.
The other factor that might affect the battle would be if Katakuri’s future sight could be used to help time his attacks to hit while King isn’t in defense mode; then most of Katakuri’s attacks would be somewhat effective. I’m pretty sure that Katakuri could figure out King’s defense mode tell relatively quickly; I’m thinking this makes it more 50/50 on who wins.
I was thinking he mentioned king being on fire all the time I am thinking if king is not doing the waiting game and gamble for a 50/50 he will be on speed mode most of the time so mochiboi would do some good hits while he is defending although how can you defend so strong attacks and fast ones and still be able to counter attack would be the winning factor
@@KaiserReb lol about the speed again katakuri wreck gear 2 luffy and manage to evade luffy's fastest attack which is black mamba PLZZZ watch on read one piece again !!! u people are annoying
@@KaiserReb funny thing is kata is faster than luffy gear 2 !!! pls read 879 in manga 895 and next chapter u will see katakuri manage to evade luffy fastest attacks from snakeman !!
@@yungdiddy Just because Kaido and Big Mom have not met with each other for decades, it does not mean Katakuri and King have also not met each other... After all Kaido and Big Mom tend to send their crew members into missions. Big Mom send a lot of her children to random Islands and Kaido sends Apoo and the Numbers and Jack outside of Wano
So it's actually NOT an oil painting. I go more into detail at the end of the video, but i thought about getting one made but decided to go with Stefan's digital art instead. Even so he put so much effort into it really does pass for a straight up painting.
@@Tekking101 I think you got it wrong here. Zoro was able to defeat King because he had his flames off when he used that Magma thing. King was defeated because he was careless or stupid enough to switch off his flames.
You forgot a something, Katakuri uses future sight not only ofr defense but also for offense, he could see that the attacks he make doesnt have a lot of effect in king before doing them, at some point he will understand that the fire is the clue, if Zoro could find that out Katakuri could do it, and the only way King could really beat Katakuri is changing to the form that makes him vulnerable, so i think Katakuri still have the advantage, it would be a really close fight, but in a long battle the future sight is way to OP because it lets you fight without wasting energy
I don't really see Katakuri damaging King even with his abilities in mind. His speed will eventually wear down as the fight progresses and in the end we have King who is unharmed and Katakuri who is unharmed with the difference that King is also a Zoan and a lunarian who can fight for hours without breaking a sweat while Katakuri is used to never getting hit and promptly overpowering his opponents that he will at some point end up tired. It would be a extremely long fight but i'd give it to King even tho i like Katakuri alot more as a character.
@@houmihm I mean i get it, and i think what everyone agrees that the fight would be really long and close matched, but both sides have good points. If Katakuri find a way to hurt king while on the speed mode while not taking damage, then Katakuri have the upper hand, but if king goes for the long fight ignoring Katakuri damage with its defense, never givin the chance to Katakuri, king would have the upper hand, i mean im on Katakuri side, but if king wins would be that crazy for me either
@@houmihm Kata fought Luffy 12 hours King lost to Zoro within minutes, after stating he was starting to get beat down a lil bit. His durability is high but his endurance was not impressive vs Zoro, didn't take many clean attacks at all while flames down. Which I'm sure Kata could find the timing the same way Zoro did, he'd just need a lot more attacks. Don't forget he has conc, it's also stated Haki blooms in battle. Kata will be stronger after fighting Luffy the same way Luffy was stronger after fighting him.
@@wyldezone9111 good points but I’d almost bargain that Zoros damage output is higher than Katakuris.. I know, controversial statement.. but I’m pretty sure Kat would never be able to scar (or deal similar damage) to Kaido with buzz cut mochi. Also, some of Kings fire attacks would be genuinely hard to dodge every time they come. Any of those imperial dragon attacks landing could be absolutely devastating.
@@eneveasi Zoro's damage output Def higher. W the fire, I image since Zoro was able to dodge, and out-maneuver the fire at times, I feel Kata wouldn't have trouble doing the same. With Buzz Cutt mochi He could also elude snakeman who's one of the fastest attacking characters we've seen in the verse at this point, he can move quickly. Grilled Mochi may provide some resistance to flame, but def not Kings best no doubt. You can only dodge to an extent tho, and he can't cut through it the way Zoro could, maybe defend himself with mochi and try to elude w future sight. I'd take king 7-8/10 vs Kata realistically but I think it's closer than most others. Oda hit on both of them though great two great characters overall for real with sweet designs.
This is a fight I would Love to see, Not all the BM pirates don't like how Katakuri Mouth is, Brulee Oven and Daifuku respect him and Perospero, Honestly I think Flampe is the only member of the family who hates Katakuri
And to be fair, siblings sometimes say they hate their siblings but they don't mean it. Doesn't help that big mom is her mother so some traits probably got carried over like her mocking defects in her kids. Heck I could even buy it that after wci, she maybe gets saved by him during an attack (maybe by blackbeard if he attacks wci during wano) and she has a change of heart. Anything can happen. Sometimes the spoiled ones are the ones that just need to be put in their place or see how wrong they were to improve.
@@romram7984 Yeah people think that Teach attacked Totland whilst big mum was in wano, so maybe Katakuri fought of countless titanic captains, but one problem is Flampe is with the crew at the bottom of the waterfall along with Smoothie Difuku Moltdor and a few others, we know Oven is in Totland and I think the Dectuplets are also there and Brule
I think they might both respect eachother enough to leave the scarf and the gimp mask alone. If one of them didn't, I think the other would immeadiatly burn the scarf or tear off the mask, and I think any advantage would be negated immeadiatly.
Could King be a active recurring charter? His race and powers mixed with the fact he had a wing clipped. Almost makes it look like Oda is going for a fallen/one winged angel vibe with him into the future... I can only see the similarities....trying to think of a plot that works within One piece with this idea is beyond me.
@@diegochatard-caraballo5848 King seems to fight dirty but I don't think he is a "dirty" character Almost like he is the individual that will be able to rally the Beastt pirate remnants to Luffy's side. Like Katakuri will and Marco already has.
@@boota2798 yeah, for me he is just like Kaido. More broken (mentally speaking) and nihilistic than purely evil or manipulative. I could see him coming back as a more "good sided" guy later.
I think that Oda knows well that we would compare these two so he made it extremely difficult for anyone to decide a winner but this is what sets the Strawhats apart.... the yonko were all in a stalemate and couldn't reach Laughtale but Luffy and his crew are the rare occurrence
@@imrantopiaimrantopia3298 exactly so it's a stalemate and would have to add the other top 3 like can Daifuku, Heat and Perispero take down Queen, Jack and Doffy? Like bruh I think its a stretch even if we replace Doffy with like Ulti of something
@@NekMinuteG my dude perospero daifuku and oven are not sweet commanders nor are they the top tiers of the big mom Pirates a fairer comparison would be cracker, smoothie and one of those 3 your mentioned vs jack queen and dofi
Now out of those 3 queen is the trickiest to fight, doflaming is probably the most versatile and jack is (at least in my mind) the weakest but I dont know how well cracker smoothie or for example oven could handle doflamingo or queen
@15:11 Tekking you just made me realize something. The katana Susano used in Shinto mythology to slay the Yamato no Orochi had notches in it from where he connected with the serpent's neck. Now you bring up King's blade has a sword breaker technique (notched blade) and was used to slay Orochi in the story. Damn Odas a genius
i feel like Katakuris future sight is kind of the perfect counter to Kings fighting style. i mean, King is kind of a brute and a trickster. He relies on his overwhelming physical abilities to beat most opponents - and tricky enemies, such as Zorro, he is going to try and use cheap tricks on in order to win (e.g. his swordcutter blade). Katakuri on the other hand is someone who mostly relies on his technique and fighting style - and if someone were to try and brute force their way through him, then he'd simply evade all incomming attacks and counterattack using his future sight until said foe is defeated. But at the same time Kings tricks wont work on him thanks to that same ability, because he knows they are comming before King can use them, so the entire element of surprise is gone. and to put this in One Piece quotes "even rain can take down a mountain, if it hits it long enough" (Law / Kid when fighting Big Mom), so simply because King cant land a strike on Katakuri, Katakuri wins. evading attacks entirely is always better than tanking them efficiently.
We don't know Kings top speed compared to snake man Luffy so he could theoreticly even be fast enought to get past future sight. I mean with that logic in mind Katakuri wins every fight he is in. The simple fact that King can damage Katakuri but Katakuri can't damage King is enough. If you think back to G4 bounceman vs Katakuri you can see that Katakuri saw Luffys attacks coming but simply couldn't avoid them and i don't think that King is slower than G4 bounceman
I think Katakuri would’ve definitely do a lot of damage to king seeing how he would know every time king would turn off his flames by using future sight
@Mr. xD However, that same quote also applies to Katakuri. His Future Sight isn't infinite, as Luffy himself stated that Katakuri's Future Sight would weaken over time, which Brulee even corroborated. If it was an extremely long fight that might last all the way to 5 days like Ace vs Jimbei, chances are that Katakuri's Future Sight would weaken faster than King would with his defenses.
@@eskilberglund2003 King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
31:50 Only one person seeing him, the one that he's fighting, don't think it'll be an issue at all. I'd like to sat that the same applies for King. Maybe with the latter, a bit of fear of the secret being spread, but BM already knows, which means Katakuri probably knows as well
The mirror world would give an advantage to Katakuri because it’s a closed off space and he can control it with his awakening like he did against Luffy
but he probably isn't strong enough to turn entire dimension into mochi, so King coud dodge that. Even if he turns all into mochi, King would just burn the entirety of mirror dimension into void
@@errexe0 yeah. This fight is way too balanced where they counter each other. The only way for either to win is to outlast the other or have a lucky opening. And I am certain that King wouldn’t be able to burn mochi that is imbued with Haki
I feel people forget that Zoro was able to cut a fully transformed Kaido with his Dragon Twister yet with the same technique couldn’t even scratch King. The same Kaido that tanked a Ryou-Enhanced Kong Gattling with similar damage as the Dragon Twister. Katakuri may be slicker and faster but offensively I don’t know how he hurts King before his Stamina finally wears him out.
He doesn't have to hit king. He just needs to trap him with sticky mochi. Then suffocate him by force feeding and armamenting the mochi inside kings body
A Kaido that had already been in multiple fights vs A King who's been flying around not on shit. Also King's durability is not always on as to why Zoro had to figure him out and cut him later. Katakuri will have already found that out by the beginning of the fight and take an entirely different approach. Has more range and more speed than Zoro, can spam out attacks a lot more. Was fighting for a much longer period of time. Doesn't have to worry about him being in the air as much, Katakuri's awakening will make anything King tries to send a problem. We don't know fire's effects on the Moji Katakuri literally has burning Moji, I'm sure he has some form of flame resistance as well.
@@wyldezone9111 The same King who had fought Marco and Sanji previously. Don’t blame him for literally being so durable he had no wounds despite having taken attacks head on.
6:59 I don't think King hid explosives in his suit? My impression was simply that he countered via Lunarian fire manipulation when Zoro stabbed him and he just exploded. Basically a natural counter defense when you attack him. Is there any official source stating this that I'm not aware of or are we assuming it because Zoro pierced something and was confused for a second, so he pierced something other than King?
Tekking tends to apply his own headcanon into the story without him realising it. So far into this video, I see that he's assuming Katakuri has advanced conquerors so yeah. I'm not really hating on Tekking tho, I'm just used to it and people make mistakes lol
@@nobrainz9222 doesn't help the fact that he reads the manga witch not to blame or insult the manga but the fact that you can't tell that king could be taking damage or if he's feeling anything like the situation with king Kong gun and god thread in the manga it seems instantaneous but logically that wouldn't make sense because its his strongest move and that would mean that doflamingo should have been 1 shoted by by kong gun but in the anime it was a struggle then it finally breaks so i don't blame tekking head cannon at all
Luffy 'beat' Kat by using snakeman and learning future sight. To beat his future sight he had to learn future sight. Kat was dancing through snakeman that was accelerating and tracking him with future sight. I got kat
Snakeman was a sitting duck in their fight. Katakuri dodged because he had a logia body and only had to dodge punches. Katakuri could dodge a flying King, but has no way of actually countering back at King. You never saw Katakuri catch a punch from Snakeman but only block a few hits out of dozens that Luffy threw out that did land on Katakuri. The main point is that Katakuri got hurt a bunch of times by Snakeman. Not as simple as Katakuri "danced around it". The first time he reacted, he barely reacted to a normal attack from Snakeman and he still took the hit while Haki'ing up.
@@YightLagami it seems ur trying to downplay kat, he may have gotten hit by snakeman a few times but thats nothing compared to the hundreds of other punches he dodged. As for the first punch that landed, it was out of the range of kats fs. He literally easily dodged it but got hit cuz he didn’t expect it to comback. Once he learned how it worked he dodged majority of the punches.
@@n3onnova564 the problem is when people think Katakuri is on another level of speed to King. Again, Kat can only keep up due to FS and his logia body to dodge. His actual movement speed or travel speed isn’t on that level. Luffy’s Snakeman is retracting, stretching, accelerating multiple times at mid distance while Katakuri is dodging barely moving a few inches to do so. Katakuri’s actual raw speed is nowhere near Luffy’s Snakeman
@@YightLagami that doesn’t matter, its apart of his kit so its a factor. Its like saying if marco didn’t have his fruit hed be weak. It dont matter his fruit apart of his kit just like kats
Due to Katakuri's future sight, wouldn't he be able to counter attack King whenever he turns his flames off for the speed boost, and effectively deal damage that way
Really hard to say. Zoro had to seemingly use kings haki infusion with Enma (which was strong enough to damage Kaido) in order to beat King so it's hard to say if Katakuri would have that kind of stopping power. Based on what we have seen, the Luffy that fought Katakuri would *not* be able to deal any significant damage to King
@Scott Avrit King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
@@Masculai1z Wrong Luffy would deal a lot more significant damage to King. The issue here is Haki not power. Luffy's power is still one of the best in One Piece, even when he was unable to injure Kaido. But Advanced armament haki means that even if your attack is weak you can injure Kaido. That is why the scabbards were able to easily injure Kaido... it was not because they had more power than Luffy, but because they had an armament haki that allows them to do so. So yes, Luffy in Whole Cake, or even in Dressrosa would have been able to deal significant damage to King in gear 4th. But King has two modes... an invulnerable one and a quick one... in the invulnerable one Luffy would be unable to injure him but in the quick one... Luffy would be able to injure him and a loot
@@andrejosue98 Really not sure how you came to this odd conclusion. Haki increases power thereby naturally increasing damage output, they are not mutually exclusive, this is the entire reason why people use haki when they are not even fighting logia users, because it increases power. The scabbards *did not* really injure Kaido he later admits their attacks were shallow and didn't really do anything. He then proceeds to spank them like he was their daddy Luffy did not have Kings haki infusion or armament haki emission/internal destruction when he fought Katakuri and he still won (albeit barely) , while Zoro *needed* Kings haki infusion WITH ENMA and a brand new sword style in order to defeat King, Luffy simply did not posses this kind of damage output. Furthermore, keep in mind I never said Luffy would not be able to *injure* King, I said he would not be able to deal any *significant damage* this applies to either whether he is vulnerable or invulnerable form due to his Lunarian heritage and being a zoan user. Gear 4 would knock him back, but with King you need a lot more than that, he would tank everything Luffy would throw at him until G4 runs out and then he gives him the Sanji treatment
@@Masculai1z The scabbards did not really injure Kaido... they just made him bleed and pierced his body... They injured him, it is just that Kaido would not die from attack attacks which is different lol. Haki increased power and advanced armament haki increases the "pierce" ability. That is why a stronger attack can't injure Kaido ( G4th attacks did not draw any blood on Kaido), but a weaker advanced armament haki attack can. ( a normal stab draw blood from Kaido) You are still wrong lol. Yes Luffy did not have advanced armament haki or conqueror coating... when he fought Katakuri but he still had one of the strongest damage output out of every character in One Piece. What he lacked was the pierce ability that advanced armament gives him. And Zoro used conqueror coating against King but he did not *need* to use conqueror coating which is different. Again King in his normal form is vulnerable to attacks... so yes, Luffy did have the damage output. Probably only Yonko or Admirals ( and Mihawk or Garp or Rayleigh) had a higher damage output than Luffy in g4th. ( without advanced armament/ conqueror coating) Now with advanced armament and conqueror coating Luffy is comparable to Yonko in damage output. But Luffy would still have enough strength to injure king without his invulnerable state in Whole Cake or Dressrosa. Zoan abilities don't give regeneration or fast recovery unless you have awakening... and King did not show awakening. Without this, Katakuri will easily injure King.
@@ddj194 lol fire can’t do shit to kata imagine kata just spam his mochi haki from distance that would be too broken and katakuri also have attack based on fire it was burning mochi
@@adrll1234 Fire would hurt him.. And its not regular fire either. It's similar to magma, On top of that, King wouldn't take any damage as long as he stays in his flaming form
Katakuri’s win condition: If he attacks King while flames are extinguished, he might win. And thanks to future sight he can easilly attack King (even Zoro could react to King’s speed form. If the fight doesn’t end with that, King wins dur to durability.
@@UnexpectedWonder Katakuri certainly has more advantage against King, they don't look even, even though they are from similar ranks. It's not only because Katakuri has the vision of the future, in reaction speed and displacement along with his attack also Katakuri surpasses King. Neither the G2 and G4 Boundman came close for Luffy to hit Katakuri, only the Snakeman, the maximum expression of Luffy's attack speed, even so Katakuri did not let himself be overcome, he followed Luffy's rhythm and even prevailed. King although he is fast, not much, Zoro could tell just by seeing the fire disappear and he reacted, instead of having been Katakuri, Zoro could not not breathe. Another super important factor is the ability in battle, Katakuri was equal to or better than Luffy, while King was outclassed by Zoro from the start. If Luffy himself was overwhelmed despite becoming stronger and more skilled from fighting Doffy and Cracker, how are you going to believe that King will do anything? Katakuri with the trident and armor haki, in the long term wears King down and that Katakufi himself recognizes that he knows about armor haki levels, according to him he also surpassed Luffy in that, therefore he did not rule out Ryoy in him trident or fists in the intensity of the fight. King has nothing to do with Katakuri
Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Not only is the painting amazing, and not only is this a 1hour long trekking video, but this is also a katakuri and king video. Which is also a thekking vs video, calm down Tekking you can make my day so amazing it may kill me !!!
I think the fight would be pretty even. Katakuris future sight would probably force King to use his "speed form" to even hit him. And with that he would also lose his extreme defense. And then I think it would be a pretty even matchup, depending on how fast Kings speed-form actually is. As we learned in the fight between Kaido and Luffy kaido was still able to hit him because of his attack speed, even though luffy saw the attack coming. (Talking about the fight on the rooftop). If Kings form is still too slow for future sight, Katakuri takes this home. If it is fast enough to get atleast some hits in, I have no idea who would win this fight.
@Apon King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
the issue with using zoro as a measuring stick for fights, is that zoro always wins by connecting 1 slash while the rest of the fight he doesnt connect or the slashes are completely ineffective , while other fighters use multiple hits to wear down opponents. So talking about durability we cant never know if his opponents can take multiple hits or not
I think it would be a very balanced fight and because of that its so frustrating 🤯. I feel like king in defense mode isnt fast enough to get pass kats future sight and mochi body manipulation, but also none of katakuri’s attacks can hurt king in defense mode. (Basically in this situation its just a draw neither can hurt each other) But king in speed mode is fast enough to get pass katakuri’s abilities, but king can also be hurt by katakuri’s attacks in speed mode. ( in this situation i feel its whoever can get the most hits on each other)
@@KaiserReb *king and queen off screen, he was fighting both of them. And also remember before marco even fought king and queen he was fighting a yonko before that
Kats perception is so great he would notice King's ability much quicker than Zoro who gets lost so easy that it's almost sad and claps him mid diff. Snake man blitzing King. HE doesn't have any good Haki feats either.
I believe that katakuri is stronger after fighting Luffy 1) He copied a lot of his techniques that he could use against king 2) No longer cares about his face or at least less than he did before, so less likely to get mental debuff 3) would’ve probably started retraining himself after suffering a loss, to redeem himself as a warrior
Yhea but the fact that luffy was evolving at such a fast rate during the battle probably put Kata in a "I have to improve as well in order to compete" mood
@@yaboiplank6764 he won both battles 😂luffy had no chance in that fight till kata hurt himself to make it.😂and even at the end he got up before luffy. When luffy look up he was standing over him
Head cannons are not allowed Possibilities of a person's strenght can't be added If u want to give kat a power up after loosing to luffy We can use King's power up after loosing to zoro
i gotta say king, katakuri does have better haki overall, but unless you know kings weakness, its extremely hard to take him down, and katakuri doesnt have conquerors coating with armament yet as far as we know, so thats a big disadvantage for him right there
Katakuri can likely figure out the weakness of King. The real question is if Katakuri can deal enough chip damage in the time when King goes into speed mode while avoiding damage, cause if so Katakuri has a good chance of winning so long as his stamina is greater, if not the advantage goes to King.
@@heraldofthunder6244 King needs to rely on either going fast and making himself vaulnerable to attacks while being able to compete with Katakuri's speed, or hope his fire AOEs cover enough area that Katakuri can't dodge away from them. King lacking Conqueror's haki doesn't matter for the fight.
@@GearGearRingLeader i am confused . Is coc just useless . That it doesn't matter whether you have it or not . I thought it was big power up to have coc . So confused.
@@anynomousanynomous7473 There are a few ways coc is shown to be really useful in combat, the first is fauder control, and the second is God level clash of wills no touching. Neither King nor Katakuri are weak enough to simply be knocked out, and neither of the two are strong enough to use god level no touching clash. So for the purposes of a fight between the two of them, coc isn't a big deal. They aren't at the level where it can be used to ignore the other.
if Zoro managed to hit King, Katakuri can hit King, i don't understand why Katakuri's attacks would do nothing, i'm sure that during the battle he would come up with a strategy to hit him just like Zoro did. In my view both King and Katakuri have got the advantage of not getting damaged by attacks, one because is super resistant and the other because he can dodge most attacks, so in that situation is not so clear who would win, I think Katakuri would bring it home, he has far more techniques and skills at his command. Edit: even Zoro didn't know how to combine conquerors to armament, he didn't even know he had conquerors! he figured it all out during the battle. These people here learn as they go.
Zoro is alr far faster than katakuri so that’s why zoro can he is reacting yonko attacks and counter yonko like kaido with his dragon twister reacted to bigmom about to scorch luffy when he was miles away from bigmom blitzing kaido two time with asura and with his oni giri with kaido the speed deference is there for sure kat doesn’t have the attack power or the speed if your far faster than kat you can get through his future site it’s not invincible kaido blitzed luffy using future site and luffy states it him self he was using it but kaido attack was to fast king is taking attacks from attacks from zoro off the roof that scared kaido and king was taking all of zoro attacks kat literally loses
The biggest problem is you can’t just give CoC Coating to Katakuri. We have to go off the feats they present in the story. Based on Katakuri Damage Output it would be very difficult to damage King enough to put him down while still having stamina. King probably won’t be able to tag Kata but eventually Katakuri will slow down and King will be able to catch him with something. That’s the Ancient Zoan biggest advantage is the ridiculous durability and stamina you get.
@@rafe100 dude zoro isn’t faster then kat, he was keeping up with Luffy in snakeman and luffy in base is faster then Zoro. Zoro cut kaido but he didn’t fall but zoro was doubting if he could beat king
If Katakuri could counter Luffy in snake man then he could easily do the same with king. And if he is weakened when he has increased speed any counter he takes when he attacks at high speed it would do a lot of damage to king. Evidently king can't take a lot of hits before going down but Katakuri could do damage to himself and still keep going.
a 1 hour and 16 minute video on who wins Katakuri vs King randomly popping in the my feed after 6 days is the reason I've been subscribed to Tekking for nearly a decade. This will be a good listen while I prep my meals
act one luffy = Katakuri, act one luffy got one shot by base kaido, king has better durability than kaido, then you have his magma like fire abilities and his df on top of that... katakuri doesn't have the AP to damage king... it would be a mid diff for king
What does the kaido oneshot have to do with durability lol. You are forgetting speed. If snakeman luffy with future sight can barely hit Katakuri then King has no chance. If King drops the durability to even try to attack he is toast. At the very least its a stalemate with both unharmed.
King went down after taking only 3 attacks from zoro after he got conqurers. He is quite fragile in his speed state which he would require if he wants to have any chance of hitting katakuri. But then again Katauri has awakening and advanced and regular arnament while king hasn't even showcased basic haki.
@@zigazdovc6175 I like to see Katakuri Tanking An Attack That Has ACOC Combine With Enma Straight On The Body And Still Stand Up. Zoro literally Sliced Kaido and if His able to do that he could literally cut anyone since it was Kaido himself
@@zigazdovc6175 bro what? No no no no. King durability is probably the best in the show aside from big mom and kaido. Zoro hit him with conquerors coating to damage him
LOVE THIS!!!!! Keep up the amazing work love the vids keep it up. I have a rlly good idea for another one of these wano kuni law vs Ace or Kizaru or doffy
Katakuri can simply use his future sight to predict when King's flames are about to go out to attack King when he's most vulnerable. I think his fight with Luffy also showed he has more stamina as that fight went on for hours. Quite frankly I don't see any scenario where King can land a hit on Katakuri while he's focused on the fight, so I lean strongly toward Katakuri.
King is faster than wci snake man luffy why wouldn’t he be able to hit kat and even if kat can predict his flames and know he’s weakness kat can’t damage him his strongest attack couldn’t even ko a luffy so there defiantly no koing a king
@@rafe100 King hasn't really demonstrated much in terms of speed, he seems to more rely on bruteforce and sneaky tactics. Even if I assume King is faster than Kat, then he would have to be way faster than Katakuri to overcome Kat's observation.
@@rafe100 Luffy didn't even need Snakeman to land a hit on Kaido. In fact Katakuri is like the only villain Luffy ever had trouble landing a hit on post-timeskip.
King imo… he’s just a bad matchup for katakuri… katakuri doesn’t have the attack power to put king down EVEN WITHOUT THE FLAME ON HIS BACK, keep in mind he has zoan defenses. I just don’t see how kat deals with it.
Chip damage or suffercating him in mochi. Marcos knee made King bleed with his flames on, so you dont need conquerors coating to hurt him. I think katakuri could take if the fight drags on
@@jhondoe7571 great headcanon based on absolutly nothing. Katakuri fought luffy for 12 hours while King fought for like 30 minutes. How the hell do you know that kings stamina is so much better, there is nothing in the story that suggests that? Yes, he cant take as much damage as King but he can compensate with not being hit at all and stamina has nothing to do with how much damage you can take
@@nicktheknick5967 katakuri didn't fight for 12 hours, he still take a break to eat and luffy left the mirror world for hours, king fought similar level opponents like zoro and marco who faced yonkou and admirals, the luffy who fought katakuri was weaker than doflamingo
I think the reason why King does not have conqueror's haki is because he isn't actively trying to be on top, we saw in his flashback that he is perfectly content with working under Kaido, while Katakuri was always trying to be stronger than everyone else and trying to be the one on top, and from what I can gather wasn't really happy with Big Mom since he says "will you come back someday to tople Big Mom" to Luffy. Katakuri thus has the qualities of a conqueror while King does not.
And it is all but stated outright that Katakuri is Big Mom's heir. Perospero might be the firstborn, but most of the kids would follow Kat if something happened to Big Mom.
Hey tekking, I have a video idea, I have always wondered how the whole communication system works in One Piece. I know they use the mail, using seagulls to deliver it, but how does that even work? Who controls it? How do the seagulls know where to deliver?
well birds have been used in real life. there is some aspect of training, don't quite remember how it worked. but i think they need to be taken (or have been) to the place where they go. and they only know that one location iirc. so you have a seagul for every spot. and they know the way back. and you could probably bet that the birds in OP universe are a lot smarter than in our world mainly cause of how much bigger and how much ocean there is. so migrating would be a more important aspect for them in this fiction world. mostly pulling all of this out of the center of * memory of stuff i seen in history channel or animal planet eons ago oh and for the newspaper. birds always know how to find something to land on. so they could just use that to find boats in the ocean and fly random paths that will eventually be frequented. since logposes kind of indicate a certain path with 2 land masses. and probably they just learn to drop a newspaper with a signal of a raised hand and a shout or smth.
I think future sight is just a perfect counter to King's lunarian defence/speed boost abilities. Assuming he understands how his ability works, Katakuri wins every time.
@@Mambo-Italiano That's not to say that king's haki is strictly needed, with a good level of armor haki, Ryou, in the long run wears it down. Katakuri tells Luffy that armor haki also has levels and his is superior to Luffy's, even though Luffy had improved his armor haki from the fights with Doffy and Cracker, he made stronger haki on top of that. include Katakuri's trident. Even with the right physical strength and a basic but very hard armor haki, it could work just the same. Without forgetting the fruits like Kizaru or Aokiji for example.
I’m giving it to katakuri. I feel he would be able to stifle Kings flight with sticky mochi, they’d clash with their wielded weapons where katakuri would lose, he would then turn it into a distance fight. King having gummed up wings having fewer distance options would be overwhelmed by awakening mochi.
@@BrendenTait8858 the thing is those flame attacks probably have a limit everytime he attacks zoro with the imperial flames (i think the name is right) he immedietly used the speed mode so he is either choosing to go speed mode for no reason or he is forced into speed mode after using the stronger flames (which would make sense because if he wasnt forced out of defensive mode after using the flames for attack he has no reason to use speed mode vs zoro)
i think King with his fire and high defense has a big advantage over normal fighters against Katakuri because King can tank everything and he can free himself from the Mochi. I think Zorro would have a far worse match up and that Zorro fighting Kat would propably go into the direction of the Luffy Kat fight. I really love this fight constellation tho, I think there are multiple possible ways where the course of the fights could go and I see both winning in some scenarios which really makes this fight pretty much balanced. I think for example Katakuri could always land counter attacks on King when king is forced to enter his speed form because without it King will barely have any chance to hit Kat with his future sight. And while in the speed form King may still be durable, Katakuri would defly make a lot more damage there, so one scenario would be Katakuri just dodging all the time and counter attacking king from times to times while King may land some punches rarely here and there. And because Katakuri lands much more punches and most of them in Kings speed form Katakuri may go out as the winner in This scenario. In another scenario King may hit Katakuri with that Imperail Flame dragon magma attack (and let‘s be honest while future sight was especially over powered in WCI, it for example barely helped Luffy against the Yonko at all that much significantly. The Yonko‘s could still hit him, so future sight does propably not mean that you are untouchable, but it will definitely help you a lot to dodge lots of strong attacks) and if Katakuri or by instance any not Yonko around lvl character is hit by that attack it‘s game over. So these were just some scenario‘s where you could argue in both favors which shows that they truly are an equal based match and out of 10 fights it might be 5-5 or a 6-4/4-6 at max. I just love how Oda really snapped with the yonko commanders and gave them an appropriate strength which don‘t make them look like fodder besides yonko‘s because if Yonko‘s could just one shot their commanders than the commanders are literally worthless. So it‘s good to see Oda balancing it out and giving them the proper strength and rawness (both have goddamn cool designs and while Katakuri defly shined with his honorable personality, King has the advantage of being tied into the lore so even in that sight they are kinda balanced :D)
Even with his flames off, he's a 1st seat yonko commander with an awakened ancient zoan devil fruit, there is simply no way that any top teir combatant is hurting him with less than their top notch attack. I don't think Katakuri has the damage to do very much even without the flames. King stood still and tanked attacks that Kaido felt the need to DODGE! Even flameless, this tells me King is just too durable to be discounted even without his flames.
No. King is really weak, and I'd say he probably loses every time, bar none. He's so weak he has to bring out tricks and cheap shots against zoro. Kat can gum up his wings. Kat can foretell his attacks. Kats weapons wouldn't get dislodged. Kats mochi only has been shown to dissipate with water. Which tekking said there is none of. Kat has burning mochi, so even if king CAN burn it, it might take a lot of stamina. And kats not getting hit as much. So in a war of attrition, kat wins then too
I think it's Katakuri every day of the week - his future sight is so OP; King would need to be in his fast mode to even have a chance of hitting him which makes him vulnerable.
@@trav1325 True, but if you look at how he was able to do that, you would see that it was possible because of Luffys unique powers and not because of his strength or speed. It's not a comparable.
@@blueleviathan15 Luffy also hit Kaido many times WITHOUT using snakeman. Those same moves that he used on Katakuri in his snakeman form, Katakuri was able to dodge many of them. Just cause Zoro “blitzes” a Yonko doesn’t mean he’s faster. Kaido and big mom are also ridiculously arrogant and are not used to dodging attack often especially when they are confident that they can tank a large majority of attack coming their way.
I think if katakuri ever learned haki coatings it'd make him the winner but as of now Kings defense just seems too high for him to break before he got too injured himself
Personally gotta give the slight edge to katakuri, I think if zoro can beat king then so could katakuri. It's really hard to say, honestly could go either way.
King was taking attacks from Zoro that hurt Kaido while act 1 Luffy couldn’t deal any damage to Kaido who beat Katakuri. Katakuri doesn’t have the haki to damage Kaido and definetly not for King. King slaps
@@TheRanOfGod When both are on defence mode they cant hit each other. So who catches the other with his defences down? My money is on the guy who can see the fucking future.
@@Bl00dgarm The only reason why King went onto speedmode is because he was afraid of Zoro being able to hurt him in his firemode which is why he even started to block Zoros attacks while his flames were on. He won’t have to do that with Katakuri and constantly fight in firemode. Katakuri has not a single attack to hurt him while King has great endurance and stamina and is ancient zoan which boost both of it. King destroys Katakuri. Even awakening won’t help Katakuri since he has magma abilities and can always blow himself up to get rid of the mochi.
@@tractorgobrr1344 He did however Zoro after hurting King said “why are you blocking, are you scared?“ after King had his fire back which implies Zoro with conquers haki can even hurt King with his firemode.
I think there are a couple variables to keep in mind with this fight. 1. Kat might actually be fast enough to force king into using his speed mode primarily. Kats speed and future sight might allow him to dodge every single damage buff attack that king uses. 2. Kat should figure out kings gimmick pretty easily because of his future sight. he may notice king enabling and disabling his flames before specific attacks. And because he sees them coming he could even test any hypothesis much more safely then zoro had to. Because he would realize just like zoro that he cant be hurt. And he will need to figure out his weakness. So if he's able to figure it out I think his future sight will allow him to land critical hits while king is in speed mode. And because he's as fast as full speed luffy (at the time), king again is kinda stuck in speed mode to even keep up with Kat.
@Thrill_I_Am King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
@Kizuna Kosuke I mean if anything that just helps Kat in this scenario. It implies he Is damageable in his tank mode and even more susceptible in his speed mode.
@@wilrip78 I doubt Katakuri can ever reach the level of damage output as CoC-coating + Full Enma Haki Output Zoro, as that was the only thing that forced King into his Speed Mode to begin with. Enma Zoro wasn't even able to "make King bleed" according to Zoro himself, when he was able to easily cut Kaido multiple times and even scar him back when Zoro had all his bones broken. That just shows the complete difference in durability between King in Flame Mode vs Kaido, and I highly doubt Katakuri can even damage Kaido to begin with.
@Kizuna Kosuke I mean easly scar kaido is a huge over estimation. That was the most powerful technique we'd see zoro use ever so it was full power just to hurt him. And secondly we don't need Kat to be as strong as him his normal conquerors attacks should safice at damaging speed mode king. And since he has future sight he can even make his shots critical blows not just basic hits because he will know ahead of time exactly where the best place to strike is in response to kings attacks. The exact same way he did to luffy.
@@wilrip78 Katakuri can't coat with Conqueror's Haki. Zoro scarring Kaido was also before he started unleashing Full Enma Haki Output and CoC-coating, which is why the black sparks only showed up after against King. One mistake that Tekking made was that he said that Luffy was jumping in, using Gear Fourth, running out of steam, jumping back out of Mirror World, rinse and repeat. However, Luffy actually DIDN'T do that. He only ran out of the Mirror World once after G4 ran out, and when he came back, he was closing his eyes and doing Future Sight training for the entire 12 hour duration. This means that Katakuri was unable to "land a critical blow" on Luffy for 12 straight hours.
This video brings me back to the first ever video of yours I watched back when I was 13 (I’m 21 now), it was Death the Kid vs Coyote Stark and I literally thought it was the coolest thing ever‼️ So this feels so nostalgic
I've heard a lot of people saying that katakuri's weakness is his durability and future site, stuff like when you see his face he will lose control, but people are forgetting one thing that the fight between luffy and katakuri made him grow a lot as a person when we see katakuri again I don't think he's gonna be hiding his face anymore and that's a good thing.
Yeah. I think he is so dedicated to Kaido his will is basically Kaido's. Or whatever Kaido wants more or less. We learned that Katakuri has his own will because he secretly doesn't really care for Big Mom. Which, I'm sure many of her kids on the crew feel that way. With that being said, I wish we had more of Smoothie!!
I agree. Conquerer should be a mark of personality. Not just a free card to making a character strong. I also don't want Zorro to have conquerer's Haki. Zorro just doesn't have that kind of personality. He's very reactive and a follower by nature. Conquerer's Haki should be a sign of a leader. Conquer's Haki should be more centered around charisma than anything. I would like for some weaker characters to have it too. A good one would be Orlumbus from the grand fleet. I mean in Dressrosa he several times showed his strength of command as he issued orders to the soldiers of Donflamingo and they just obeyed before asking themselves "Wait, he's not our commander, what are we doing?!". I would think that warrent's conquerer's Haki. Being so dominant that people feel it's natural to follow your commands even if they have absolutely no reason to.
tekking i save your new videos to watch them exclusively as i sleep, it's to the point where bro i can't sleep without listening to this guy😂😂😂 keep posting videos lmaoooooo❤
The fact that Katakuri has conquerors haki and King doesn’t is honestly what puts Katakuri over him in my mind. Otherwise it can pretty much go either way
I'd say Katakuri wins, because King is going to be getting hit over and over, slowly wearing him down, even with how little damage he'd be doing due to the Lunarian DNA. Meanwhile, King isn't going to be able to hit Katakuri anywhere near as much, if at all. King is going to be slowly worn down, while Katakuri isn't going to be taking many hits, because King likely can't disrupt Katakuri's haki. As for the flames, Katakuri can absolutely use his awakening to make a wall of Mochi to block. King isn't going to be able to land anything decisive on Katakuri, while Katakuri would be slowly wearing King down.
@@Sun-cg6lv Katakuri has more than enough mochi to block it. Mochi isn't exactly the most flammable thing in the world. The flames can certainly fry his mochi, but if Katakuri puts up like a 3 foot mochi wall that fire's gonna stop.
@@thatonguy2407 Doubt it Zoro who can literally cut fire had to use COC to get past it. Magma in OP is literally presented as the hottest thing in the verse. Some thick mochi wall that Luffy could eat through isn’t going to stop his imperial dragon
King wins. King has a greater offensive & defensive power. Even haki up Enma couldn't cut him till Zoro gained advanced conquerers. Plus his durability & endurance is above as well because of zoan & his race. Luffy defeated Katakuri without advanced armament nor advanced conquerers.
@@kingdoom5022 King has fast attacks. Haki isn't unlimited. I love how people throw around advanced observation like it guarantees wins. It doesn't. He doesn't have the offensive abilities nor endurance to bring down King.
Great video, but i think that you’ve lowballed Katakuri’s speed in comparison to King’s(with his flames on), Katakuri at max speed was able to close the gap between Luffy in snakeman(whose attacks imo are leaps and bounds faster than Zoro’s) and himself without suffering a single attack, personally i don’t think he would even need to go full speed unless king turns his flames off in which case I think that Katakuri would be able to capitalize on the opening And secondly(this is just my analogy of the fight between Zoro and King) every time King used an imperial flaming attack he went full speed with his flames turned off afterwards you can see it clearly in the last panel of chapter 1035 when he used “imperial guardian flaming dragon” the flames on his back are turned off the same happened before when Zoro used “purgatory onigiri” king used “imperial flaming dragon” afterwards and his flames went out and after every imperial attack the flames didn’t return immediately, maybe that is the price of using his flames offensively that he becomes normal in the sense that he can actually be damaged
In the first scene where he used the Magma Dragon to burn the Beast Pirates fodder in 1035, he was still in Flame Mode as you can see the flame on his back while he was using the Magma Dragon, so I don't think turning off his flame is a mandatory thing to use that technqiue.
Katakuris future sight isn’t that much of a problem actually you just gotta prove that king would be faster because Kaido proved that being able to see the future doesn’t mean you can dodge and react to an attack when he hit luffy and luffy mentioned he was using future sight. King should be comparable if not faster due to him out speeding zoro who scales to luffy, and luffy and zoro both have gotten stronger since whole cake so king should definitely be stronger or faster if not comparable to katakuri.
i would say king he’s fast enough to counter future sight in his speed form his defense form would make him immune to katakuri’s attacks even if king gets tagged in his speed form he’s still an ancient zoan and zorro need advanced conquers to put king down king can produce magma which is comparable to akainu with his devil fruit stated to have the highest offensive power i like katakuri it’s just this isn’t a good matchup for him
I gotta give it to king. I just don’t believe katakuri can hit harder then zoro at that point of the story, and king is ridiculously fast and has really amazing defenses.
Exactly people are forgetting that Zoro could hurt Kaido but Luffy couldn't in the beginning of the Wano arc. So that proves Zoros attacks are stronger now than the attacks Luffy gave Kat back in that fight
Hey Tekking the oil painting is absolutly amazing. I think you should hang it a little bit higher on the Wall, it would look even better. Thanks for the amazing content.
Katakuri's speed makes this difficult. We also don't know the prerequisites of the Magma Fire, nor if he has to turn off the flame on his back to use it or he keeps his buff. Katakuri can evade whatever King throws. If Zoro is getting tagged by him and then hitting him, and Katakuri has already shown feats faster than Luffy's fastest form, there's a disparaging thing there. For example, do you think Zoro would be able to deal with Luffy's Snakeman, if not then he would not be tagging it. But Katakuri was not only able, but also pushing Luffy to bring as much out of it as he could. Katakuri could go down easily here due to the raw destructive power King most likely possesses but if you can't hit what you're aiming at, why does that matter. It would be as if stating that King with his invisible speed is on the same level as Luffy's G2 usage, you would need to also prove King was faster than Luffy's Snakeman.
@@RonaldMoreira123 he can’t do anything to King….anime logic is the only reason it’s even a long fight. King’s has AOE that can make future sight pretty useless unless Kat can has enough time to avoid it.
@@RonaldMoreira123 we’re not sleeping he just got power creep on that’s it. King tanking acoc attacks is above kat, especially when you consider his mo his not getting hits he is a glass canon not a tank
@@KaiserReb except katakuri is not a glass cannon and he fought on for 11 to 12 hours tanking attacks from luffy in gear fourth you cant call someone that can actively fight for 11-12 hours a glass cannon
@@narcisoferreira9976 Kat was bullying Luffy for like 11 hours of the fight. Wasn’t till the end Luffy even had a chance. Luffy could barely use gear 4 forms for 10 min. So Kat getting hit a few times within those 10 min doesn’t make him a tank. I’m not saying he’s a glass canon but definitely not a tank compared to any top tier zoan. Kat didn’t really get hit that much he was either dodging, clashing, or beating on Luffy 90% to 95% of the fight
Love the art of King, but what I want to comment on here is the fact throughout the video you don't want to give the characters abilities they haven't shown, but you give King the edge of stamina. If we're going by your rules of course, Katakuri's stamina in comparison to King's is way better, miles ahead even. Zoro and king's fight didn't even last for an hour, while Luffy and Katakuri fought for 12 hours, allbeit Luffy was using hit and run tactics to begin with. Not the mention by the time Luffy actually fought Katakuri seriously, half way through Katakuri dealth a serious injury on himself, so he could argueable have even more stamina than he had already shown.
It's because King has a Zoan body which gives him more natural regen and endurance. Endurance means dog crap in One Piece. Ace vs Jimbe? 10 days. Ace vs Blackbeard? A few hours at most. Luffy vs Katakuri? 12 hours. Luffy vs Kaido? Less than 30 minutes both times. Kaido will get taken out in less than 12 hours(raid is probably night time to early day at best), does that mean he has worse stamina than Kat? Katakuri has no way of hurting King compared to Zoro who's attacks can even hurt Kaido. In a even fight where no combatant can hurt each other and where King has flight and range where Katakuri's range can't even reach King (thousands of meters), King will out last him.
King wins assuming he can burn the mochi but the only reason to assume he can burn it was because zoro said fire hot. But if he can not which I'm not entirely convinced he can burn the mochi then, katakuri would win but in both cases it would be a fight of attrition
I think this is really hard to have a concrete result because we are comparing skills and power, but the basis of Katakuri's skills is not updated in a way.
I think Katakuri has a good chance at beating King. I see King's defense more akin to a medieval armor. Yes, his armor is superb and especially Zoro had trouble getting trough that with his blades, but the way to beat armored knights is to use blunt force. You can't cut a knight in armor but you can use a warhammer to demolish the body beneath the armor. So I would argue that Katakuri has a better chance of damaging King than Zoro because he's using mostly blunt force.
Come on, I know King has hype more recently in the story but it’s clear that Katakuri would win. Based on everything we saw in luffy v katakuri and zoro v king, katakuri was much more impressive. And with his awakening and future sight, he could easily capitalize when King lowers his defense
Tekking, here's a theory what if Katakuri saw that if he continued to push Luffy to his breaking point that Luffy would awaken his God powers during their battle? Katakuri might not know what Nika Nika fruit is, but his future sight could have warned him not to push Luffy too far to that point.
I mean its pretty easy thb, the question is can Kat figure out how Kings flames work. And I mean if our slow boy Zoro was able to figure it out then its safe to asume Kat does so as well
This was awesome! Two of the most badass in the series fr. I think it would come down to stamina too but also I think King has just greater damage potential, like King would be hard pressed to hit katakuri but if he did land a few solid strikes katakuri would be in series trouble. Would love to see one of these for Zoro vs Doffy as well.
Katakuris face is no longer a weakness for him. At least that’s what implied at the end of the battle. He might not even have the scarf on anymore except for drip purposes
Yeah especially with the fact that he litterlay said he doesn’t give a shit anymore what people think also his reputation is just thrown out the window do to Flampe telling everyone on wholecake about his mouth so in reality he doesn’t even care anymore
Of course, current King is also missing a wing. I’m assuming Tekking is making this a pre-WCI arc fight.
This hypothetical fight doesn’t necessarily take place after Katakuri’s fight with Luffy.
Perospero: you might be able to make friends if you hide your mouth.
"i dont want any friends if they laugh ill just beat them up
~katakuri
he wore the scarf to complete his drip and protect his family
That moment was a really powerful one. That if you are insecure about something weird then you can never "overcome" it. Katakuri's power and abilities were several steps above any in Totland and really only eclipsed by Big Mom herself. Yet while that grants him respect from those that value his abilities as an asset. From more shallow people it is largely irrelevant. With shallow people like that trying to prove them wrong is pointless cause they don't care about what's right and wrong.
Honestly can we talk about how ridiculously badass the yonkou first commanders are? Marco, Katakuri, and King are insanely powerful characters with incredible nearly-hax level powers. Ben Beckman and Shiryu need to have some crazy powers shown off to measure up.
What about Zoro ?
i knda think shilliew is gonna suck
Shiryu isnt even BBs right hand, isnt it nacho man?
@@imnotaclown9603 yeah it’s Jesus Burgess A.K.A nacho man
still waiting to see ben beckmans true strength, and im not sure, who is blackbeards first mate?
Regardless of who is stronger, they both win in the character design department. Especially Katakuri. I'm about as casual of a One Piece fan as you can get, but Katakuri's design is easily a top 50 manga character design across all genres/demographics.
A casual one piece that’s up to date in the manga. What
Arlong is number one
I think King is the most handsome man in all of One Piece.
@@PatsDynasty casual fans dont read the manga?
Whole Cake Arc was just Oda flexing his character design skills
Everyone looks cool and unique
The other factor that might affect the battle would be if Katakuri’s future sight could be used to help time his attacks to hit while King isn’t in defense mode; then most of Katakuri’s attacks would be somewhat effective. I’m pretty sure that Katakuri could figure out King’s defense mode tell relatively quickly; I’m thinking this makes it more 50/50 on who wins.
Zoro a person who blitz yonko 3 times was struggling with kings speed mode. Just reminding
I was thinking he mentioned king being on fire all the time I am thinking if king is not doing the waiting game and gamble for a 50/50 he will be on speed mode most of the time so mochiboi would do some good hits while he is defending although how can you defend so strong attacks and fast ones and still be able to counter attack would be the winning factor
@@KaiserReb lol about the speed again katakuri wreck gear 2 luffy and manage to evade luffy's fastest attack which is black mamba PLZZZ watch on read one piece again !!! u people are annoying
@@KaiserReb the only advantage king has is his durability and being a lunarian thats ITT
@@KaiserReb funny thing is kata is faster than luffy gear 2 !!! pls read 879 in manga 895 and next chapter u will see katakuri manage to evade luffy fastest attacks from snakeman !!
I'll be shocked if these 2 haven't actually clashed yet considering they Kaido and Big Mom's first commanders
They said they havent met up in decades
@@yungdiddy Just because Kaido and Big Mom have not met with each other for decades, it does not mean Katakuri and King have also not met each other...
After all Kaido and Big Mom tend to send their crew members into missions.
Big Mom send a lot of her children to random Islands and Kaido sends Apoo and the Numbers and Jack outside of Wano
@@andrejosue98 Katakuri said pre FS luffy was the strongest person he fought. Meaning he sure as hell didn’t fight king
@@pooloutdaboot No, Katakuri never said that lol
@@andrejosue98 mf just pulled that statement out of his ass
My jaw DROPPED when I saw the oil painting of King. I DID NOT EXPECT IT TO BE SO AMAZING.
So it's actually NOT an oil painting. I go more into detail at the end of the video, but i thought about getting one made but decided to go with Stefan's digital art instead. Even so he put so much effort into it really does pass for a straight up painting.
@@Tekking101 Either way it’s absolutely stunning. If it was presented in one of those Japanese One Piece exhibitions I wouldn’t be surprised
My jaw dropped when I saw the length of this vid lol
@@Tekking101 semantics it's still amazing.
@@Tekking101 I think you got it wrong here. Zoro was able to defeat King because he had his flames off when he used that Magma thing. King was defeated because he was careless or stupid enough to switch off his flames.
Regardless of who you prefer, one thing clear. These two have the best character designs in One Piece thus far.
That's just facts!
Nah Corazon was DRIPPY.
Bro have you SEEN the drip masters Kizaru and Doflamingo
@@samt3412 just gonna say it doflamingo was stronger cus corazon was drippier
@@ekul9208 Doflamingo the only man to ever wear a pink coat and still be a menace
@@samt3412 killa cam??? Lol had the pink mink back in the dayy
You forgot a something, Katakuri uses future sight not only ofr defense but also for offense, he could see that the attacks he make doesnt have a lot of effect in king before doing them, at some point he will understand that the fire is the clue, if Zoro could find that out Katakuri could do it, and the only way King could really beat Katakuri is changing to the form that makes him vulnerable, so i think Katakuri still have the advantage, it would be a really close fight, but in a long battle the future sight is way to OP because it lets you fight without wasting energy
I don't really see Katakuri damaging King even with his abilities in mind. His speed will eventually wear down as the fight progresses and in the end we have King who is unharmed and Katakuri who is unharmed with the difference that King is also a Zoan and a lunarian who can fight for hours without breaking a sweat while Katakuri is used to never getting hit and promptly overpowering his opponents that he will at some point end up tired. It would be a extremely long fight but i'd give it to King even tho i like Katakuri alot more as a character.
@@houmihm I mean i get it, and i think what everyone agrees that the fight would be really long and close matched, but both sides have good points. If Katakuri find a way to hurt king while on the speed mode while not taking damage, then Katakuri have the upper hand, but if king goes for the long fight ignoring Katakuri damage with its defense, never givin the chance to Katakuri, king would have the upper hand, i mean im on Katakuri side, but if king wins would be that crazy for me either
@@houmihm Kata fought Luffy 12 hours King lost to Zoro within minutes, after stating he was starting to get beat down a lil bit. His durability is high but his endurance was not impressive vs Zoro, didn't take many clean attacks at all while flames down. Which I'm sure Kata could find the timing the same way Zoro did, he'd just need a lot more attacks. Don't forget he has conc, it's also stated Haki blooms in battle. Kata will be stronger after fighting Luffy the same way Luffy was stronger after fighting him.
@@wyldezone9111 good points but I’d almost bargain that Zoros damage output is higher than Katakuris.. I know, controversial statement.. but I’m pretty sure Kat would never be able to scar (or deal similar damage) to Kaido with buzz cut mochi.
Also, some of Kings fire attacks would be genuinely hard to dodge every time they come. Any of those imperial dragon attacks landing could be absolutely devastating.
@@eneveasi Zoro's damage output Def higher. W the fire, I image since Zoro was able to dodge, and out-maneuver the fire at times, I feel Kata wouldn't have trouble doing the same. With Buzz Cutt mochi He could also elude snakeman who's one of the fastest attacking characters we've seen in the verse at this point, he can move quickly. Grilled Mochi may provide some resistance to flame, but def not Kings best no doubt. You can only dodge to an extent tho, and he can't cut through it the way Zoro could, maybe defend himself with mochi and try to elude w future sight. I'd take king 7-8/10 vs Kata realistically but I think it's closer than most others. Oda hit on both of them though great two great characters overall for real with sweet designs.
"The Mochi-Mochi No Mi, [...] the superior sister fruit to the Gomu-Gomu No Mi", well that sentence hasn't aged well.
This is a fight I would Love to see,
Not all the BM pirates don't like how Katakuri Mouth is, Brulee Oven and Daifuku respect him and Perospero, Honestly I think Flampe is the only member of the family who hates Katakuri
Yeah it’s probably just her because she’s the youngest. And the rest of the children have their own quirks
@@mrsplashman8308
Yeah she's a total brat and you can tell that the rest of the family don't like her, Moltdor told her to shut up once
And to be fair, siblings sometimes say they hate their siblings but they don't mean it. Doesn't help that big mom is her mother so some traits probably got carried over like her mocking defects in her kids. Heck I could even buy it that after wci, she maybe gets saved by him during an attack (maybe by blackbeard if he attacks wci during wano) and she has a change of heart. Anything can happen. Sometimes the spoiled ones are the ones that just need to be put in their place or see how wrong they were to improve.
@@romram7984
Yeah people think that Teach attacked Totland whilst big mum was in wano, so maybe Katakuri fought of countless titanic captains, but one problem is Flampe is with the crew at the bottom of the waterfall along with Smoothie Difuku Moltdor and a few others, we know Oven is in Totland and I think the Dectuplets are also there and Brule
Daifuku and oven were making fun of him about it when they were young
I think they might both respect eachother enough to leave the scarf and the gimp mask alone. If one of them didn't, I think the other would immeadiatly burn the scarf or tear off the mask, and I think any advantage would be negated immeadiatly.
Only if they know it is something special to the other person
No touching of the hair or face!! And that’s it for the ground rules
King wouldn't do that
Could King be a active recurring charter?
His race and powers mixed with the fact he had a wing clipped. Almost makes it look like Oda is going for a fallen/one winged angel vibe with him into the future...
I can only see the similarities....trying to think of a plot that works within One piece with this idea is beyond me.
His race maybe but not him specifically. I think it’ll be brought up when we get to Marijoha.
I can definitly see him coming bakc into the story.
He needs revende for what the WG did to him and his race.
@@diegochatard-caraballo5848 King seems to fight dirty but I don't think he is a "dirty" character Almost like he is the individual that will be able to rally the Beastt pirate remnants to Luffy's side.
Like Katakuri will and Marco already has.
@@boota2798 yeah, for me he is just like Kaido.
More broken (mentally speaking) and nihilistic than purely evil or manipulative.
I could see him coming back as a more "good sided" guy later.
I think that Oda knows well that we would compare these two so he made it extremely difficult for anyone to decide a winner but this is what sets the Strawhats apart.... the yonko were all in a stalemate and couldn't reach Laughtale but Luffy and his crew are the rare occurrence
I don't think it's hard though, Katakuri can't possibly have the attack power needed to actually hurt King.
@@NekMinuteG Katakuri doesn't have coating so I dont see how he could damage King and king isn't fast enough to hurt him.
@@imrantopiaimrantopia3298 exactly so it's a stalemate and would have to add the other top 3 like can Daifuku, Heat and Perispero take down Queen, Jack and Doffy? Like bruh I think its a stretch even if we replace Doffy with like Ulti of something
@@NekMinuteG my dude perospero daifuku and oven are not sweet commanders nor are they the top tiers of the big mom Pirates a fairer comparison would be cracker, smoothie and one of those 3 your mentioned vs jack queen and dofi
Now out of those 3 queen is the trickiest to fight, doflaming is probably the most versatile and jack is (at least in my mind) the weakest but I dont know how well cracker smoothie or for example oven could handle doflamingo or queen
@15:11 Tekking you just made me realize something. The katana Susano used in Shinto mythology to slay the Yamato no Orochi had notches in it from where he connected with the serpent's neck. Now you bring up King's blade has a sword breaker technique (notched blade) and was used to slay Orochi in the story.
Damn Odas a genius
i feel like Katakuris future sight is kind of the perfect counter to Kings fighting style.
i mean, King is kind of a brute and a trickster. He relies on his overwhelming physical abilities to beat most opponents - and tricky enemies, such as Zorro, he is going to try and use cheap tricks on in order to win (e.g. his swordcutter blade).
Katakuri on the other hand is someone who mostly relies on his technique and fighting style - and if someone were to try and brute force their way through him, then he'd simply evade all incomming attacks and counterattack using his future sight until said foe is defeated. But at the same time Kings tricks wont work on him thanks to that same ability, because he knows they are comming before King can use them, so the entire element of surprise is gone.
and to put this in One Piece quotes "even rain can take down a mountain, if it hits it long enough" (Law / Kid when fighting Big Mom), so simply because King cant land a strike on Katakuri, Katakuri wins.
evading attacks entirely is always better than tanking them efficiently.
We don't know Kings top speed compared to snake man Luffy so he could theoreticly even be fast enought to get past future sight. I mean with that logic in mind Katakuri wins every fight he is in. The simple fact that King can damage Katakuri but Katakuri can't damage King is enough. If you think back to G4 bounceman vs Katakuri you can see that Katakuri saw Luffys attacks coming but simply couldn't avoid them and i don't think that King is slower than G4 bounceman
I think Katakuri would’ve definitely do a lot of damage to king seeing how he would know every time king would turn off his flames by using future sight
@@houmihm based on logic snakeman definitely faster than king also his attack was unpredictable it’s just random
@Mr. xD However, that same quote also applies to Katakuri. His Future Sight isn't infinite, as Luffy himself stated that Katakuri's Future Sight would weaken over time, which Brulee even corroborated. If it was an extremely long fight that might last all the way to 5 days like Ace vs Jimbei, chances are that Katakuri's Future Sight would weaken faster than King would with his defenses.
@@eskilberglund2003 King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
31:50 Only one person seeing him, the one that he's fighting, don't think it'll be an issue at all. I'd like to sat that the same applies for King. Maybe with the latter, a bit of fear of the secret being spread, but BM already knows, which means Katakuri probably knows as well
The mirror world would give an advantage to Katakuri because it’s a closed off space and he can control it with his awakening like he did against Luffy
but he probably isn't strong enough to turn entire dimension into mochi, so King coud dodge that. Even if he turns all into mochi, King would just burn the entirety of mirror dimension into void
@@errexe0 yeah. This fight is way too balanced where they counter each other. The only way for either to win is to outlast the other or have a lucky opening. And I am certain that King wouldn’t be able to burn mochi that is imbued with Haki
@@errexe0 bruh katakuri have an attack called burning mochi what do you mean king can burn it lol
@@adrll1234 Luffy can use red hawk, doesn't mean he is fire resistant
@@errexe0 but he could just clash with fire
I feel people forget that Zoro was able to cut a fully transformed Kaido with his Dragon Twister yet with the same technique couldn’t even scratch King. The same Kaido that tanked a Ryou-Enhanced Kong Gattling with similar damage as the Dragon Twister.
Katakuri may be slicker and faster but offensively I don’t know how he hurts King before his Stamina finally wears him out.
He doesn't have to hit king. He just needs to trap him with sticky mochi. Then suffocate him by force feeding and armamenting the mochi inside kings body
@@liberalistbat6352 King will burn through it lol Ridiculous to think that will take out King
@@davidortiz3094 not with armament haki on the mochi. Kink would be dead before you know it.
A Kaido that had already been in multiple fights vs A King who's been flying around not on shit. Also King's durability is not always on as to why Zoro had to figure him out and cut him later. Katakuri will have already found that out by the beginning of the fight and take an entirely different approach. Has more range and more speed than Zoro, can spam out attacks a lot more. Was fighting for a much longer period of time. Doesn't have to worry about him being in the air as much, Katakuri's awakening will make anything King tries to send a problem. We don't know fire's effects on the Moji Katakuri literally has burning Moji, I'm sure he has some form of flame resistance as well.
@@wyldezone9111 The same King who had fought Marco and Sanji previously. Don’t blame him for literally being so durable he had no wounds despite having taken attacks head on.
There is a distinct parallel between King & Katakuri -- especially when it comes to showing their faces completely.
Pelican eel and a Shandorian-lookalike
6:59
I don't think King hid explosives in his suit? My impression was simply that he countered via Lunarian fire manipulation when Zoro stabbed him and he just exploded. Basically a natural counter defense when you attack him. Is there any official source stating this that I'm not aware of or are we assuming it because Zoro pierced something and was confused for a second, so he pierced something other than King?
Tekking tends to apply his own headcanon into the story without him realising it. So far into this video, I see that he's assuming Katakuri has advanced conquerors so yeah. I'm not really hating on Tekking tho, I'm just used to it and people make mistakes lol
@@nobrainz9222 doesn't help the fact that he reads the manga witch not to blame or insult the manga but the fact that you can't tell that king could be taking damage or if he's feeling anything like the situation with king Kong gun and god thread in the manga it seems instantaneous but logically that wouldn't make sense because its his strongest move and that would mean that doflamingo should have been 1 shoted by by kong gun but in the anime it was a struggle then it finally breaks so i don't blame tekking head cannon at all
@@nobrainz9222 you definitely didn’t watch the video. He said katakuri can’t use advanced conquerors and he can’t just give it to him just because.
@@nobrainz9222 1:04:39 tekking literally says that Kat doesn't have it...
@@nobrainz9222 he literally said he can’t assume kat has conquerors coating.. did you watch the video?
Luffy 'beat' Kat by using snakeman and learning future sight.
To beat his future sight he had to learn future sight.
Kat was dancing through snakeman that was accelerating and tracking him with future sight.
I got kat
Snakeman was a sitting duck in their fight. Katakuri dodged because he had a logia body and only had to dodge punches. Katakuri could dodge a flying King, but has no way of actually countering back at King. You never saw Katakuri catch a punch from Snakeman but only block a few hits out of dozens that Luffy threw out that did land on Katakuri. The main point is that Katakuri got hurt a bunch of times by Snakeman. Not as simple as Katakuri "danced around it". The first time he reacted, he barely reacted to a normal attack from Snakeman and he still took the hit while Haki'ing up.
@@YightLagami it seems ur trying to downplay kat, he may have gotten hit by snakeman a few times but thats nothing compared to the hundreds of other punches he dodged. As for the first punch that landed, it was out of the range of kats fs. He literally easily dodged it but got hit cuz he didn’t expect it to comback. Once he learned how it worked he dodged majority of the punches.
Zoro was getting knocked around before advanced conquers cmon now king takes it
@@n3onnova564 the problem is when people think Katakuri is on another level of speed to King. Again, Kat can only keep up due to FS and his logia body to dodge. His actual movement speed or travel speed isn’t on that level. Luffy’s Snakeman is retracting, stretching, accelerating multiple times at mid distance while Katakuri is dodging barely moving a few inches to do so. Katakuri’s actual raw speed is nowhere near Luffy’s Snakeman
@@YightLagami that doesn’t matter, its apart of his kit so its a factor. Its like saying if marco didn’t have his fruit hed be weak. It dont matter his fruit apart of his kit just like kats
Due to Katakuri's future sight, wouldn't he be able to counter attack King whenever he turns his flames off for the speed boost, and effectively deal damage that way
Really hard to say. Zoro had to seemingly use kings haki infusion with Enma (which was strong enough to damage Kaido) in order to beat King so it's hard to say if Katakuri would have that kind of stopping power. Based on what we have seen, the Luffy that fought Katakuri would *not* be able to deal any significant damage to King
@Scott Avrit King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
@@Masculai1z Wrong Luffy would deal a lot more significant damage to King.
The issue here is Haki not power.
Luffy's power is still one of the best in One Piece, even when he was unable to injure Kaido. But Advanced armament haki means that even if your attack is weak you can injure Kaido.
That is why the scabbards were able to easily injure Kaido... it was not because they had more power than Luffy, but because they had an armament haki that allows them to do so.
So yes, Luffy in Whole Cake, or even in Dressrosa would have been able to deal significant damage to King in gear 4th.
But King has two modes... an invulnerable one and a quick one... in the invulnerable one Luffy would be unable to injure him but in the quick one... Luffy would be able to injure him and a loot
@@andrejosue98 Really not sure how you came to this odd conclusion. Haki increases power thereby naturally increasing damage output, they are not mutually exclusive, this is the entire reason why people use haki when they are not even fighting logia users, because it increases power.
The scabbards *did not* really injure Kaido he later admits their attacks were shallow and didn't really do anything. He then proceeds to spank them like he was their daddy
Luffy did not have Kings haki infusion or armament haki emission/internal destruction when he fought Katakuri and he still won (albeit barely) , while Zoro *needed* Kings haki infusion WITH ENMA and a brand new sword style in order to defeat King, Luffy simply did not posses this kind of damage output.
Furthermore, keep in mind I never said Luffy would not be able to *injure* King, I said he would not be able to deal any *significant damage* this applies to either whether he is vulnerable or invulnerable form due to his Lunarian heritage and being a zoan user. Gear 4 would knock him back, but with King you need a lot more than that, he would tank everything Luffy would throw at him until G4 runs out and then he gives him the Sanji treatment
@@Masculai1z The scabbards did not really injure Kaido... they just made him bleed and pierced his body...
They injured him, it is just that Kaido would not die from attack attacks which is different lol.
Haki increased power and advanced armament haki increases the "pierce" ability. That is why a stronger attack can't injure Kaido ( G4th attacks did not draw any blood on Kaido), but a weaker advanced armament haki attack can. ( a normal stab draw blood from Kaido)
You are still wrong lol. Yes Luffy did not have advanced armament haki or conqueror coating... when he fought Katakuri but he still had one of the strongest damage output out of every character in One Piece.
What he lacked was the pierce ability that advanced armament gives him.
And Zoro used conqueror coating against King but he did not *need* to use conqueror coating which is different.
Again King in his normal form is vulnerable to attacks... so yes, Luffy did have the damage output. Probably only Yonko or Admirals ( and Mihawk or Garp or Rayleigh) had a higher damage output than Luffy in g4th. ( without advanced armament/ conqueror coating)
Now with advanced armament and conqueror coating Luffy is comparable to Yonko in damage output.
But Luffy would still have enough strength to injure king without his invulnerable state in Whole Cake or Dressrosa.
Zoan abilities don't give regeneration or fast recovery unless you have awakening... and King did not show awakening. Without this, Katakuri will easily injure King.
I think futuresight and the sheer versatility of katakuris fruit takes it
I think speed, fire conjuring and insane strength takes it
@@ddj194 lol fire can’t do shit to kata imagine kata just spam his mochi haki from distance that would be too broken and katakuri also have attack based on fire it was burning mochi
@@adrll1234 Fire would hurt him.. And its not regular fire either. It's similar to magma, On top of that, King wouldn't take any damage as long as he stays in his flaming form
Katakuri is a better match for Queen than King
Temporarily
Katakuri’s win condition: If he attacks King while flames are extinguished, he might win. And thanks to future sight he can easilly attack King (even Zoro could react to King’s speed form.
If the fight doesn’t end with that, King wins dur to durability.
Not only durability, also being incinerated
I keep sayin' that they're on par. You detailed why. Both would likely call it off or kill each other if not just Draw like Jinbei and Ace did.
Nah. Kat wins this 100% of the time, and he does it easily.
@@liberalistbat6352 You're making no damn sense. You sound like a Fanboy. How does he win?
@@UnexpectedWonder Katakuri certainly has more advantage against King, they don't look even, even though they are from similar ranks. It's not only because Katakuri has the vision of the future, in reaction speed and displacement along with his attack also Katakuri surpasses King.
Neither the G2 and G4 Boundman came close for Luffy to hit Katakuri, only the Snakeman, the maximum expression of Luffy's attack speed, even so Katakuri did not let himself be overcome, he followed Luffy's rhythm and even prevailed. King although he is fast, not much, Zoro could tell just by seeing the fire disappear and he reacted, instead of having been Katakuri, Zoro could not not breathe.
Another super important factor is the ability in battle, Katakuri was equal to or better than Luffy, while King was outclassed by Zoro from the start.
If Luffy himself was overwhelmed despite becoming stronger and more skilled from fighting Doffy and Cracker, how are you going to believe that King will do anything?
Katakuri with the trident and armor haki, in the long term wears King down and that Katakufi himself recognizes that he knows about armor haki levels, according to him he also surpassed Luffy in that, therefore he did not rule out Ryoy in him trident or fists in the intensity of the fight. King has nothing to do with Katakuri
@@netero1682 You literally are wrong throughout this entirety. I could debunk every point you made via Facts from the Manga.
@@UnexpectedWonder You can take the manga all you want and twist the facts, but it won't change if Katakuri is much stronger than King.
Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Not only is the painting amazing, and not only is this a 1hour long trekking video, but this is also a katakuri and king video. Which is also a thekking vs video, calm down Tekking you can make my day so amazing it may kill me !!!
I think the fight would be pretty even. Katakuris future sight would probably force King to use his "speed form" to even hit him. And with that he would also lose his extreme defense. And then I think it would be a pretty even matchup, depending on how fast Kings speed-form actually is. As we learned in the fight between Kaido and Luffy kaido was still able to hit him because of his attack speed, even though luffy saw the attack coming. (Talking about the fight on the rooftop). If Kings form is still too slow for future sight, Katakuri takes this home. If it is fast enough to get atleast some hits in, I have no idea who would win this fight.
@Apon King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
Does anyone else feel like this fight is kinda like the Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object.
the issue with using zoro as a measuring stick for fights, is that zoro always wins by connecting 1 slash while the rest of the fight he doesnt connect or the slashes are completely ineffective , while other fighters use multiple hits to wear down opponents. So talking about durability we cant never know if his opponents can take multiple hits or not
Plot armor is soo huge in One Piece, unlike Demon Slayer where fighters actually can die
@Abdu R bro get out of this video. And don’t even compare trash demon slayer to one piece. If you don’t like one piece why are you in this video.
@@aaravanand8544 demon slayer is not trash 😂 it was just a weird anime to compare one piece with.
King tanked 3 acoc attacks before going down
@@abdur1300
After reading the Entertainment District arc, that statement is easily debatable.
I think it would be a very balanced fight and because of that its so frustrating 🤯. I feel like king in defense mode isnt fast enough to get pass kats future sight and mochi body manipulation, but also none of katakuri’s attacks can hurt king in defense mode. (Basically in this situation its just a draw neither can hurt each other)
But king in speed mode is fast enough to get pass katakuri’s abilities, but king can also be hurt by katakuri’s attacks in speed mode. ( in this situation i feel its whoever can get the most hits on each other)
Remember king is still durable even in his speed mode remember ancient zoan
@@trav1325yea but marco was strong enough to make king bleed so im pretty sure katakuri could make him bleed too
@@narutothepirateking9360 Same pre coc Luffy who got 1 shot by kaido also beat kat while the zoro who scarred and tanked kaido beat king.
@@narutothepirateking9360 Marco lost to king off screen
@@KaiserReb *king and queen off screen, he was fighting both of them.
And also remember before marco even fought king and queen he was fighting a yonko before that
Kats perception is so great he would notice King's ability much quicker than Zoro who gets lost so easy that it's almost sad and claps him mid diff. Snake man blitzing King. HE doesn't have any good Haki feats either.
I believe that katakuri is stronger after fighting Luffy
1) He copied a lot of his techniques that he could use against king
2) No longer cares about his face or at least less than he did before, so less likely to get mental debuff
3) would’ve probably started retraining himself after suffering a loss, to redeem himself as a warrior
he was stroger than luffy
luffy won the mental battle,not the physical one
Yhea but the fact that luffy was evolving at such a fast rate during the battle probably put Kata in a "I have to improve as well in order to compete" mood
@@yaboiplank6764 he won both battles 😂luffy had no chance in that fight till kata hurt himself to make it.😂and even at the end he got up before luffy. When luffy look up he was standing over him
Head cannons are not allowed
Possibilities of a person's strenght can't be added
If u want to give kat a power up after loosing to luffy
We can use King's power up after loosing to zoro
@@Packirup1234 only (3) is head canon and what argument do you have for king getting strong per after fight Zoro, Losing his wing?
i gotta say king, katakuri does have better haki overall, but unless you know kings weakness, its extremely hard to take him down, and katakuri doesnt have conquerors coating with armament yet as far as we know, so thats a big disadvantage for him right there
Katakuri can likely figure out the weakness of King. The real question is if Katakuri can deal enough chip damage in the time when King goes into speed mode while avoiding damage, cause if so Katakuri has a good chance of winning so long as his stamina is greater, if not the advantage goes to King.
How does king dmg katakuri ?. Ob haki would make katakuri almost unhittable. King has no conquers haki that we've been shown.
@@heraldofthunder6244 King needs to rely on either going fast and making himself vaulnerable to attacks while being able to compete with Katakuri's speed, or hope his fire AOEs cover enough area that Katakuri can't dodge away from them. King lacking Conqueror's haki doesn't matter for the fight.
@@GearGearRingLeader i am confused . Is coc just useless . That it doesn't matter whether you have it or not . I thought it was big power up to have coc . So confused.
@@anynomousanynomous7473 There are a few ways coc is shown to be really useful in combat, the first is fauder control, and the second is God level clash of wills no touching.
Neither King nor Katakuri are weak enough to simply be knocked out, and neither of the two are strong enough to use god level no touching clash.
So for the purposes of a fight between the two of them, coc isn't a big deal. They aren't at the level where it can be used to ignore the other.
So rare to see a Tekking video with background art and visuals. Must have taken quite some time. Keep it up. It was enjoyable
if Zoro managed to hit King, Katakuri can hit King, i don't understand why Katakuri's attacks would do nothing, i'm sure that during the battle he would come up with a strategy to hit him just like Zoro did. In my view both King and Katakuri have got the advantage of not getting damaged by attacks, one because is super resistant and the other because he can dodge most attacks, so in that situation is not so clear who would win, I think Katakuri would bring it home, he has far more techniques and skills at his command. Edit: even Zoro didn't know how to combine conquerors to armament, he didn't even know he had conquerors! he figured it all out during the battle. These people here learn as they go.
Zoro is alr far faster than katakuri so that’s why zoro can he is reacting yonko attacks and counter yonko like kaido with his dragon twister reacted to bigmom about to scorch luffy when he was miles away from bigmom blitzing kaido two time with asura and with his oni giri with kaido the speed deference is there for sure kat doesn’t have the attack power or the speed if your far faster than kat you can get through his future site it’s not invincible kaido blitzed luffy using future site and luffy states it him self he was using it but kaido attack was to fast king is taking attacks from attacks from zoro off the roof that scared kaido and king was taking all of zoro attacks kat literally loses
Why has Forneverworld fell off
The biggest problem is you can’t just give CoC Coating to Katakuri. We have to go off the feats they present in the story. Based on Katakuri Damage Output it would be very difficult to damage King enough to put him down while still having stamina. King probably won’t be able to tag Kata but eventually Katakuri will slow down and King will be able to catch him with something. That’s the Ancient Zoan biggest advantage is the ridiculous durability and stamina you get.
@@rafe100 dude zoro isn’t faster then kat, he was keeping up with Luffy in snakeman and luffy in base is faster then Zoro. Zoro cut kaido but he didn’t fall but zoro was doubting if he could beat king
@@ClarkeMichaelDuncan what lol luffy is faster than zoro in base are your serious yeah we done no point 😭😭
I completely agree plus i think that kings flames are more scattered making it harder for future sight to dodge
Unlike death battle you know the information behind the characters and clearly know why each character would win/lose
If Katakuri could counter Luffy in snake man then he could easily do the same with king. And if he is weakened when he has increased speed any counter he takes when he attacks at high speed it would do a lot of damage to king. Evidently king can't take a lot of hits before going down but Katakuri could do damage to himself and still keep going.
a 1 hour and 16 minute video on who wins Katakuri vs King randomly popping in the my feed after 6 days is the reason I've been subscribed to Tekking for nearly a decade. This will be a good listen while I prep my meals
I saved this for a long drive today, holy fucking shit was this entertaining lmao
act one luffy = Katakuri, act one luffy got one shot by base kaido, king has better durability than kaido, then you have his magma like fire abilities and his df on top of that... katakuri doesn't have the AP to damage king... it would be a mid diff for king
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@@sergeymarkatav9728 L is "kat=act 1 luffy"
What does the kaido oneshot have to do with durability lol. You are forgetting speed. If snakeman luffy with future sight can barely hit Katakuri then King has no chance. If King drops the durability to even try to attack he is toast. At the very least its a stalemate with both unharmed.
Katakuri is a victim of this raid's insane powercreep.
I think Katakuri is stronger but King is way to Durable so he would probably win
King went down after taking only 3 attacks from zoro after he got conqurers. He is quite fragile in his speed state which he would require if he wants to have any chance of hitting katakuri. But then again Katauri has awakening and advanced and regular arnament while king hasn't even showcased basic haki.
King durable? He went down in taking one serious attack from Zoro.
@@zigazdovc6175 An attack with ACOC.
@@zigazdovc6175 I like to see Katakuri Tanking An Attack That Has ACOC Combine With Enma Straight On The Body And Still Stand Up. Zoro literally Sliced Kaido and if His able to do that he could literally cut anyone since it was Kaido himself
@@zigazdovc6175 bro what? No no no no. King durability is probably the best in the show aside from big mom and kaido. Zoro hit him with conquerors coating to damage him
It would be such a good fight but i think the winner would King
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LOVE THIS!!!!! Keep up the amazing work love the vids keep it up. I have a rlly good idea for another one of these wano kuni law vs Ace or Kizaru or doffy
I dunno why but hearing you talk passionately about OP reminds me of the way Hank Greene talks passionately about science and I love it!
Katakuri can simply use his future sight to predict when King's flames are about to go out to attack King when he's most vulnerable. I think his fight with Luffy also showed he has more stamina as that fight went on for hours. Quite frankly I don't see any scenario where King can land a hit on Katakuri while he's focused on the fight, so I lean strongly toward Katakuri.
Thank you for typing this. I was about to literally say this lol but you saved me the time. You are 100% correct.
King is faster than wci snake man luffy why wouldn’t he be able to hit kat and even if kat can predict his flames and know he’s weakness kat can’t damage him his strongest attack couldn’t even ko a luffy so there defiantly no koing a king
@@rafe100 King hasn't really demonstrated much in terms of speed, he seems to more rely on bruteforce and sneaky tactics. Even if I assume King is faster than Kat, then he would have to be way faster than Katakuri to overcome Kat's observation.
@@DreamStepper he was blitzing a zoro that blitzed kaido the feats are there
@@rafe100 Luffy didn't even need Snakeman to land a hit on Kaido. In fact Katakuri is like the only villain Luffy ever had trouble landing a hit on post-timeskip.
King imo… he’s just a bad matchup for katakuri… katakuri doesn’t have the attack power to put king down EVEN WITHOUT THE FLAME ON HIS BACK, keep in mind he has zoan defenses. I just don’t see how kat deals with it.
Chip damage or suffercating him in mochi. Marcos knee made King bleed with his flames on, so you dont need conquerors coating to hurt him. I think katakuri could take if the fight drags on
@@nicktheknick5967 Marco is stronger than katakuri, katakuri dont have stamina to drags a battle against king who is far more durable than wc luffy
@@jhondoe7571 great headcanon based on absolutly nothing. Katakuri fought luffy for 12 hours while King fought for like 30 minutes. How the hell do you know that kings stamina is so much better, there is nothing in the story that suggests that? Yes, he cant take as much damage as King but he can compensate with not being hit at all and stamina has nothing to do with how much damage you can take
@@nicktheknick5967 katakuri didn't fight for 12 hours, he still take a break to eat and luffy left the mirror world for hours, king fought similar level opponents like zoro and marco who faced yonkou and admirals, the luffy who fought katakuri was weaker than doflamingo
@@nicktheknick5967 you guys overestimate katakuri a lot because he had the vision of "good antagonist"
I think the reason why King does not have conqueror's haki is because he isn't actively trying to be on top, we saw in his flashback that he is perfectly content with working under Kaido, while Katakuri was always trying to be stronger than everyone else and trying to be the one on top, and from what I can gather wasn't really happy with Big Mom since he says "will you come back someday to tople Big Mom" to Luffy. Katakuri thus has the qualities of a conqueror while King does not.
And it is all but stated outright that Katakuri is Big Mom's heir. Perospero might be the firstborn, but most of the kids would follow Kat if something happened to Big Mom.
Damnn, the painting looks stunning! I propose a round of applause for the artist that made such a masterpiece!
My jaw, HIT THE FLOOR when you showed the painting. My woooooooooooord, it’s beautiful
Hey tekking, I have a video idea,
I have always wondered how the whole communication system works in One Piece. I know they use the mail, using seagulls to deliver it, but how does that even work? Who controls it? How do the seagulls know where to deliver?
well birds have been used in real life. there is some aspect of training, don't quite remember how it worked. but i think they need to be taken (or have been) to the place where they go. and they only know that one location iirc. so you have a seagul for every spot. and they know the way back. and you could probably bet that the birds in OP universe are a lot smarter than in our world mainly cause of how much bigger and how much ocean there is. so migrating would be a more important aspect for them in this fiction world. mostly pulling all of this out of the center of * memory of stuff i seen in history channel or animal planet eons ago
oh and for the newspaper. birds always know how to find something to land on. so they could just use that to find boats in the ocean and fly random paths that will eventually be frequented. since logposes kind of indicate a certain path with 2 land masses. and probably they just learn to drop a newspaper with a signal of a raised hand and a shout or smth.
Big news morgan. He is a bird man. Zoan devil fruit user that controls the birds and news network
I think future sight is just a perfect counter to King's lunarian defence/speed boost abilities. Assuming he understands how his ability works, Katakuri wins every time.
Except Zoro need conqueror's flow+Enma to damage him even in his weaker/no defence form.
@@Mambo-Italiano That's not to say that king's haki is strictly needed, with a good level of armor haki, Ryou, in the long run wears it down. Katakuri tells Luffy that armor haki also has levels and his is superior to Luffy's, even though Luffy had improved his armor haki from the fights with Doffy and Cracker, he made stronger haki on top of that. include Katakuri's trident. Even with the right physical strength and a basic but very hard armor haki, it could work just the same. Without forgetting the fruits like Kizaru or Aokiji for example.
It's like a unfair disadvantage. If only King had a semi-advanced observation Haki, this battle would've been over faster.
I’m giving it to katakuri. I feel he would be able to stifle Kings flight with sticky mochi, they’d clash with their wielded weapons where katakuri would lose, he would then turn it into a distance fight. King having gummed up wings having fewer distance options would be overwhelmed by awakening mochi.
King could use his flames to destroy the mochi though plus the flames make Katakuri's attacks pretty worthless
@@BrendenTait8858 the thing is those flame attacks probably have a limit everytime he attacks zoro with the imperial flames (i think the name is right) he immedietly used the speed mode so he is either choosing to go speed mode for no reason or he is forced into speed mode after using the stronger flames (which would make sense because if he wasnt forced out of defensive mode after using the flames for attack he has no reason to use speed mode vs zoro)
@@BrendenTait8858 bruh katakuri literally have an attack called burning mochi what do you mean king can burn mochi with haki😂
@@adrll1234 OK you do know Mochi can burn right and there is a big difference between Kata lighting it on fire himself and King setting it on fire
@@narcisoferreira9976 that is speculation, for what information we know now it is shown not to have a limit
Having KOLs prayer music playing under the kats intro is a masterful touch
What a beautiful painting! And it fits nicely in the wall. Props to the artist!
Now you need a fireplace to hang it over xD
i think King with his fire and high defense has a big advantage over normal fighters against Katakuri because King can tank everything and he can free himself from the Mochi. I think Zorro would have a far worse match up and that Zorro fighting Kat would propably go into the direction of the Luffy Kat fight.
I really love this fight constellation tho, I think there are multiple possible ways where the course of the fights could go and I see both winning in some scenarios which really makes this fight pretty much balanced.
I think for example Katakuri could always land counter attacks on King when king is forced to enter his speed form because without it King will barely have any chance to hit Kat with his future sight. And while in the speed form King may still be durable, Katakuri would defly make a lot more damage there, so one scenario would be Katakuri just dodging all the time and counter attacking king from times to times while King may land some punches rarely here and there. And because Katakuri lands much more punches and most of them in Kings speed form Katakuri may go out as the winner in This scenario.
In another scenario King may hit Katakuri with that Imperail Flame dragon magma attack (and let‘s be honest while future sight was especially over powered in WCI, it for example barely helped Luffy against the Yonko at all that much significantly. The Yonko‘s could still hit him, so future sight does propably not mean that you are untouchable, but it will definitely help you a lot to dodge lots of strong attacks) and if Katakuri or by instance any not Yonko around lvl character is hit by that attack it‘s game over.
So these were just some scenario‘s where you could argue in both favors which shows that they truly are an equal based match and out of 10 fights it might be 5-5 or a 6-4/4-6 at max.
I just love how Oda really snapped with the yonko commanders and gave them an appropriate strength which don‘t make them look like fodder besides yonko‘s because if Yonko‘s could just one shot their commanders than the commanders are literally worthless. So it‘s good to see Oda balancing it out and giving them the proper strength and rawness (both have goddamn cool designs and while Katakuri defly shined with his honorable personality, King has the advantage of being tied into the lore so even in that sight they are kinda balanced :D)
Even with his flames off, he's a 1st seat yonko commander with an awakened ancient zoan devil fruit, there is simply no way that any top teir combatant is hurting him with less than their top notch attack.
I don't think Katakuri has the damage to do very much even without the flames. King stood still and tanked attacks that Kaido felt the need to DODGE! Even flameless, this tells me King is just too durable to be discounted even without his flames.
No. King is really weak, and I'd say he probably loses every time, bar none.
He's so weak he has to bring out tricks and cheap shots against zoro.
Kat can gum up his wings. Kat can foretell his attacks. Kats weapons wouldn't get dislodged. Kats mochi only has been shown to dissipate with water. Which tekking said there is none of. Kat has burning mochi, so even if king CAN burn it, it might take a lot of stamina. And kats not getting hit as much. So in a war of attrition, kat wins then too
I think it's Katakuri every day of the week - his future sight is so OP; King would need to be in his fast mode to even have a chance of hitting him which makes him vulnerable.
Base luffy punch kat in the face 2-4 times future sight isn't all that
@@trav1325 True, but if you look at how he was able to do that, you would see that it was possible because of Luffys unique powers and not because of his strength or speed. It's not a comparable.
Zoro speed blitzed Kaido who also has future sight, while he had trouble keeping up with King
@@blueleviathan15 Luffy also hit Kaido many times WITHOUT using snakeman. Those same moves that he used on Katakuri in his snakeman form, Katakuri was able to dodge many of them.
Just cause Zoro “blitzes” a Yonko doesn’t mean he’s faster. Kaido and big mom are also ridiculously arrogant and are not used to dodging attack often especially when they are confident that they can tank a large majority of attack coming their way.
@@KingOfEden12 Kaido saw Luffy’s attacks coming and didn’t bother dodging them, but Zoro caught him completely off guard
I think if katakuri ever learned haki coatings it'd make him the winner but as of now Kings defense just seems too high for him to break before he got too injured himself
he does he used them on his fist and his trident
I haven't even watched the whole thing but I had to like it! Tekking, my dear favorite OP youtuber, please keep doing these videos.
Tekking should do more of these type of videos.
Personally gotta give the slight edge to katakuri, I think if zoro can beat king then so could katakuri. It's really hard to say, honestly could go either way.
zoro as advanced conqueror , katakuri cant even use Ryuo
zoro did use Advanced conquerors though.. and Zoro does have insane damage output
I don’t think Kat has the power to damage king
King was taking attacks from Zoro that hurt Kaido while act 1 Luffy couldn’t deal any damage to Kaido who beat Katakuri.
Katakuri doesn’t have the haki to damage Kaido and definetly not for King.
King slaps
@@TheRanOfGod zoro caught king with his defense mode off no?
@@TheRanOfGod When both are on defence mode they cant hit each other. So who catches the other with his defences down? My money is on the guy who can see the fucking future.
@@Bl00dgarm The only reason why King went onto speedmode is because he was afraid of Zoro being able to hurt him in his firemode which is why he even started to block Zoros attacks while his flames were on.
He won’t have to do that with Katakuri and constantly fight in firemode. Katakuri has not a single attack to hurt him while King has great endurance and stamina and is ancient zoan which boost both of it.
King destroys Katakuri. Even awakening won’t help Katakuri since he has magma abilities and can always blow himself up to get rid of the mochi.
@@tractorgobrr1344 He did however Zoro after hurting King said “why are you blocking, are you scared?“ after King had his fire back which implies Zoro with conquers haki can even hurt King with his firemode.
I think there are a couple variables to keep in mind with this fight.
1. Kat might actually be fast enough to force king into using his speed mode primarily. Kats speed and future sight might allow him to dodge every single damage buff attack that king uses.
2. Kat should figure out kings gimmick pretty easily because of his future sight. he may notice king enabling and disabling his flames before specific attacks. And because he sees them coming he could even test any hypothesis much more safely then zoro had to. Because he would realize just like zoro that he cant be hurt. And he will need to figure out his weakness. So if he's able to figure it out I think his future sight will allow him to land critical hits while king is in speed mode. And because he's as fast as full speed luffy (at the time), king again is kinda stuck in speed mode to even keep up with Kat.
@Thrill_I_Am King's "base form" seems to be the Flame Mode, since he was always in his Flame Mode even when he wasn't in battle. In fact, he only ever started switching to Speed Mode when Zoro first used Advanced CoC coating, which could be explained by the fact that he needed the extra speed to dodge Zoro's attacks. This is further corroborated by Zoro when he was asking King why he was blocking his attacks even though he was in his Flame Mode, which implies that Zoro can damage King through his Flame Mode which is why King is blocking in the first place.
@Kizuna Kosuke I mean if anything that just helps Kat in this scenario. It implies he Is damageable in his tank mode and even more susceptible in his speed mode.
@@wilrip78 I doubt Katakuri can ever reach the level of damage output as CoC-coating + Full Enma Haki Output Zoro, as that was the only thing that forced King into his Speed Mode to begin with. Enma Zoro wasn't even able to "make King bleed" according to Zoro himself, when he was able to easily cut Kaido multiple times and even scar him back when Zoro had all his bones broken. That just shows the complete difference in durability between King in Flame Mode vs Kaido, and I highly doubt Katakuri can even damage Kaido to begin with.
@Kizuna Kosuke I mean easly scar kaido is a huge over estimation. That was the most powerful technique we'd see zoro use ever so it was full power just to hurt him. And secondly we don't need Kat to be as strong as him his normal conquerors attacks should safice at damaging speed mode king. And since he has future sight he can even make his shots critical blows not just basic hits because he will know ahead of time exactly where the best place to strike is in response to kings attacks. The exact same way he did to luffy.
@@wilrip78 Katakuri can't coat with Conqueror's Haki. Zoro scarring Kaido was also before he started unleashing Full Enma Haki Output and CoC-coating, which is why the black sparks only showed up after against King.
One mistake that Tekking made was that he said that Luffy was jumping in, using Gear Fourth, running out of steam, jumping back out of Mirror World, rinse and repeat. However, Luffy actually DIDN'T do that. He only ran out of the Mirror World once after G4 ran out, and when he came back, he was closing his eyes and doing Future Sight training for the entire 12 hour duration. This means that Katakuri was unable to "land a critical blow" on Luffy for 12 straight hours.
This video brings me back to the first ever video of yours I watched back when I was 13 (I’m 21 now), it was Death the Kid vs Coyote Stark and I literally thought it was the coolest thing ever‼️ So this feels so nostalgic
lol the bungee gum part was hilarious never even thought of that
Definitely giving this to King but close fight
Bro how the HELL is your comment from 3 hours ago but the video was posted 2 hours ago 🤔
@@223muey I a had to time travel to deliver 📦 you this msg. You’re welcome 🤷🏿♂️
If only he has a strong observation haki then this battle would've been easier to analyze.
I've heard a lot of people saying that katakuri's weakness is his durability and future site, stuff like when you see his face he will lose control, but people are forgetting one thing that the fight between luffy and katakuri made him grow a lot as a person when we see katakuri again I don't think he's gonna be hiding his face anymore and that's a good thing.
Gonna be perfectly honest, I don't think King can use Conqueror's. I don't think he has the ambition needed.
yeah he is like Marco a fking good 2nd in command but has no ambition outside of that, both have a super strong df ability as well
@@jorgeddls you right, Marco sets the precedent😮
Yeah. I think he is so dedicated to Kaido his will is basically Kaido's. Or whatever Kaido wants more or less. We learned that Katakuri has his own will because he secretly doesn't really care for Big Mom. Which, I'm sure many of her kids on the crew feel that way. With that being said, I wish we had more of Smoothie!!
Thinking same and its a perfect contradiction on his name being king
I agree. Conquerer should be a mark of personality. Not just a free card to making a character strong.
I also don't want Zorro to have conquerer's Haki. Zorro just doesn't have that kind of personality. He's very reactive and a follower by nature. Conquerer's Haki should be a sign of a leader.
Conquer's Haki should be more centered around charisma than anything. I would like for some weaker characters to have it too. A good one would be Orlumbus from the grand fleet. I mean in Dressrosa he several times showed his strength of command as he issued orders to the soldiers of Donflamingo and they just obeyed before asking themselves "Wait, he's not our commander, what are we doing?!". I would think that warrent's conquerer's Haki. Being so dominant that people feel it's natural to follow your commands even if they have absolutely no reason to.
tekking i save your new videos to watch them exclusively as i sleep, it's to the point where bro i can't sleep without listening to this guy😂😂😂
keep posting videos lmaoooooo❤
katakuri donut mode is so adorable to be honest
The fact that Katakuri has conquerors haki and King doesn’t is honestly what puts Katakuri over him in my mind. Otherwise it can pretty much go either way
Nah, King stomps. he also can withstand conquerors haki
I'd say Katakuri wins, because King is going to be getting hit over and over, slowly wearing him down, even with how little damage he'd be doing due to the Lunarian DNA. Meanwhile, King isn't going to be able to hit Katakuri anywhere near as much, if at all. King is going to be slowly worn down, while Katakuri isn't going to be taking many hits, because King likely can't disrupt Katakuri's haki.
As for the flames, Katakuri can absolutely use his awakening to make a wall of Mochi to block. King isn't going to be able to land anything decisive on Katakuri, while Katakuri would be slowly wearing King down.
His flames easily burn through Mochi Zoro stated the imperial Dragon is as hot as magma.
@@Sun-cg6lv you know Katakuri can use *the whole environment* to block right?
@@thatonguy2407 cool? How does that relate to Kings Fire being hotter than what Katakuri’s mochi can take?
@@Sun-cg6lv Katakuri has more than enough mochi to block it. Mochi isn't exactly the most flammable thing in the world. The flames can certainly fry his mochi, but if Katakuri puts up like a 3 foot mochi wall that fire's gonna stop.
@@thatonguy2407 Doubt it Zoro who can literally cut fire had to use COC to get past it. Magma in OP is literally presented as the hottest thing in the verse. Some thick mochi wall that Luffy could eat through isn’t going to stop his imperial dragon
King wins. King has a greater offensive & defensive power. Even haki up Enma couldn't cut him till Zoro gained advanced conquerers. Plus his durability & endurance is above as well because of zoan & his race. Luffy defeated Katakuri without advanced armament nor advanced conquerers.
I agree
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Katakuri destroy king , king will not be able to hit him
Have you ever heard of something called plot armour 😃
@@kingdoom5022 King has fast attacks. Haki isn't unlimited. I love how people throw around advanced observation like it guarantees wins. It doesn't. He doesn't have the offensive abilities nor endurance to bring down King.
Ultimately, its the zoan stamina bonus that tips it in favor of king for me.
Tekking i would highly recommend watching Bestguyever's video on katakuri i think you're gonna understand/appreciate the fight much more.
This is my first time looking at this video and I’m already in love with his whole room
Great video, but i think that you’ve lowballed Katakuri’s speed in comparison to King’s(with his flames on), Katakuri at max speed was able to close the gap between Luffy in snakeman(whose attacks imo are leaps and bounds faster than Zoro’s) and himself without suffering a single attack, personally i don’t think he would even need to go full speed unless king turns his flames off in which case I think that Katakuri would be able to capitalize on the opening
And secondly(this is just my analogy of the fight between Zoro and King) every time King used an imperial flaming attack he went full speed with his flames turned off afterwards you can see it clearly in the last panel of chapter 1035 when he used “imperial guardian flaming dragon” the flames on his back are turned off the same happened before when Zoro used “purgatory onigiri” king used “imperial flaming dragon” afterwards and his flames went out and after every imperial attack the flames didn’t return immediately, maybe that is the price of using his flames offensively that he becomes normal in the sense that he can actually be damaged
In the first scene where he used the Magma Dragon to burn the Beast Pirates fodder in 1035, he was still in Flame Mode as you can see the flame on his back while he was using the Magma Dragon, so I don't think turning off his flame is a mandatory thing to use that technqiue.
Katakuris future sight isn’t that much of a problem actually you just gotta prove that king would be faster because Kaido proved that being able to see the future doesn’t mean you can dodge and react to an attack when he hit luffy and luffy mentioned he was using future sight. King should be comparable if not faster due to him out speeding zoro who scales to luffy, and luffy and zoro both have gotten stronger since whole cake so king should definitely be stronger or faster if not comparable to katakuri.
Why do people keep bringing this up is kats futrue sight not better than luffy's like wth? Kat has it active almost 24/7 fr luffy doesnt really
@@mr.potatohead3870 it may be near passive but if his body can't keep up it doesn't really matter.
@@dreadedsage8630 I mean true but at the same time he has more time to react than Luffy cuz he can see farther in the future right?
@@mr.potatohead3870 the size of kaidos attack too comes into play Kaidos attack was so huge it closed off all chances of escape
@@censari544 true but kaido is a different beast entirely 😂
King:
Increased physical stats via DF & Lunarian genetics✅
Ancient Zoan DF✅
Flight via wings/DF✅
Fire Manipulation ✅
Speed Mode & Defence Mode✅
Armament & Observation Haki✅
Sword breaker Katana ✅
Katakuri:
Has all 3 Haki's✅
Awakened Mochi DF✅
Future Sight Haki✅
Spear✅
King wins
I LOVED THE OIL PAINTING OPENING! Instant like for King and Stefan
Yes!! That painting is amazing!
It's perfect.
Without thinking much about it and just going off of my first thoughts from the fights we have seen I would think Katakuri wins
i would say king he’s fast enough to counter future sight in his speed form his defense form would make him immune to katakuri’s attacks even if king gets tagged in his speed form he’s still an ancient zoan and zorro need advanced conquers to put king down king can produce magma which is comparable to akainu with his devil fruit stated to have the highest offensive power i like katakuri it’s just this isn’t a good matchup for him
I gotta give it to king. I just don’t believe katakuri can hit harder then zoro at that point of the story, and king is ridiculously fast and has really amazing defenses.
Exactly people are forgetting that Zoro could hurt Kaido but Luffy couldn't in the beginning of the Wano arc. So that proves Zoros attacks are stronger now than the attacks Luffy gave Kat back in that fight
@@ninjastorm540 yes spitting!! I just legit don’t see an instance where katakuri can land enough hits that are hard enough…
@@ninjastorm540 and those same attacks that cut kaido, couldn't scratch king
Facts! It really sucks that King doesn't have a Conqueror's haki to be on par with others who has strong ambition.
I think in 10 matches, King would take 6 of them, this would be a close fight, but I think King has the edge
More like 8
BRO THAT PAINTING LOOKS SOO GOOD
Hey Tekking the oil painting is absolutly amazing. I think you should hang it a little bit higher on the Wall, it would look even better. Thanks for the amazing content.
Katakuri's speed makes this difficult. We also don't know the prerequisites of the Magma Fire, nor if he has to turn off the flame on his back to use it or he keeps his buff. Katakuri can evade whatever King throws. If Zoro is getting tagged by him and then hitting him, and Katakuri has already shown feats faster than Luffy's fastest form, there's a disparaging thing there. For example, do you think Zoro would be able to deal with Luffy's Snakeman, if not then he would not be tagging it. But Katakuri was not only able, but also pushing Luffy to bring as much out of it as he could.
Katakuri could go down easily here due to the raw destructive power King most likely possesses but if you can't hit what you're aiming at, why does that matter. It would be as if stating that King with his invisible speed is on the same level as Luffy's G2 usage, you would need to also prove King was faster than Luffy's Snakeman.
I think people are sleeping on kat
@@RonaldMoreira123 he can’t do anything to King….anime logic is the only reason it’s even a long fight. King’s has AOE that can make future sight pretty useless unless Kat can has enough time to avoid it.
@@RonaldMoreira123 we’re not sleeping he just got power creep on that’s it. King tanking acoc attacks is above kat, especially when you consider his mo his not getting hits he is a glass canon not a tank
@@KaiserReb except katakuri is not a glass cannon and he fought on for 11 to 12 hours tanking attacks from luffy in gear fourth you cant call someone that can actively fight for 11-12 hours a glass cannon
@@narcisoferreira9976 Kat was bullying Luffy for like 11 hours of the fight. Wasn’t till the end Luffy even had a chance. Luffy could barely use gear 4 forms for 10 min. So Kat getting hit a few times within those 10 min doesn’t make him a tank. I’m not saying he’s a glass canon but definitely not a tank compared to any top tier zoan. Kat didn’t really get hit that much he was either dodging, clashing, or beating on Luffy 90% to 95% of the fight
Love the art of King, but what I want to comment on here is the fact throughout the video you don't want to give the characters abilities they haven't shown, but you give King the edge of stamina. If we're going by your rules of course, Katakuri's stamina in comparison to King's is way better, miles ahead even. Zoro and king's fight didn't even last for an hour, while Luffy and Katakuri fought for 12 hours, allbeit Luffy was using hit and run tactics to begin with. Not the mention by the time Luffy actually fought Katakuri seriously, half way through Katakuri dealth a serious injury on himself, so he could argueable have even more stamina than he had already shown.
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It's because King has a Zoan body which gives him more natural regen and endurance. Endurance means dog crap in One Piece. Ace vs Jimbe? 10 days. Ace vs Blackbeard? A few hours at most. Luffy vs Katakuri? 12 hours. Luffy vs Kaido? Less than 30 minutes both times. Kaido will get taken out in less than 12 hours(raid is probably night time to early day at best), does that mean he has worse stamina than Kat?
Katakuri has no way of hurting King compared to Zoro who's attacks can even hurt Kaido.
In a even fight where no combatant can hurt each other and where King has flight and range where Katakuri's range can't even reach King (thousands of meters), King will out last him.
@@borgu3879 Lmaooooo
@@YightLagami Yeah, but Zoan's need a short rest to really regen in a significant way. This is not stop battle, no short rests whatsoever.
@@borgu3879 King regenned from Zoro's cuts fairly instantly not to mention King can put a pause in the battle with flight if he wanted to.
King wins assuming he can burn the mochi but the only reason to assume he can burn it was because zoro said fire hot. But if he can not which I'm not entirely convinced he can burn the mochi then, katakuri would win but in both cases it would be a fight of attrition
Great video
King's fire was strong enough to melt swords and gifters in seconds, no way it cant melt mochi
Attrition that provides King the victory
I think this is really hard to have a concrete result because we are comparing skills and power, but the basis of Katakuri's skills is not updated in a way.
Loool, love you trying something new like those bullet point slides
I think Katakuri has a good chance at beating King. I see King's defense more akin to a medieval armor. Yes, his armor is superb and especially Zoro had trouble getting trough that with his blades, but the way to beat armored knights is to use blunt force. You can't cut a knight in armor but you can use a warhammer to demolish the body beneath the armor. So I would argue that Katakuri has a better chance of damaging King than Zoro because he's using mostly blunt force.
Come on, I know King has hype more recently in the story but it’s clear that Katakuri would win. Based on everything we saw in luffy v katakuri and zoro v king, katakuri was much more impressive. And with his awakening and future sight, he could easily capitalize when King lowers his defense
I mean you could just say WCI Luffy is weaker then Wano Zoro which I would 100% agree with
@@BrendenTait8858 definitely true
King caught raid suit sanji with pure speed and tanked the same and stronger hits that Kaido got scarred by.
@@Reallyjoyboyfr he’s not tanked he’s got one shot lol
@@adrll1234 he tanked 3 coc attacks then got 1 shot by a coc ryuo Enma attack
Katakuri and king became friends after they saw each other face
Sagittarian-buddies
Tekking, here's a theory what if Katakuri saw that if he continued to push Luffy to his breaking point that Luffy would awaken his God powers during their battle? Katakuri might not know what Nika Nika fruit is, but his future sight could have warned him not to push Luffy too far to that point.
That bungee gum joke / reference blew my mind
Like Katakuri, I see no future where King would win
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Can you do Sogeking vs Usopp next? I feel like this is the fight everyone wants to see
Haha very funny and original, did you think that one up yourself? Did mommy say you’re a special smart boy today?
That was salty, relax, He's just memeing
@@JavierPwns who hurt u lol
Yup i would love that and that's right up Tekking's alley
I mean its pretty easy thb, the question is can Kat figure out how Kings flames work. And I mean if our slow boy Zoro was able to figure it out then its safe to asume Kat does so as well
He isnt slow when it comes to fightin lol just lik luffy
slow?
This was awesome! Two of the most badass in the series fr. I think it would come down to stamina too but also I think King has just greater damage potential, like King would be hard pressed to hit katakuri but if he did land a few solid strikes katakuri would be in series trouble. Would love to see one of these for Zoro vs Doffy as well.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but that oil painting is gorgeous.