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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2017
  • A clip from Babylon 5 episode s04e22 "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars"
    "Not propaganda. Goodfacts. As opposed to realfacts. Facts the government has endorsed."

Комментарии • 318

  • @renzgarcia84
    @renzgarcia84 6 лет назад +140

    Goodfacts to Make Earth Greate Again.... MEGE!!!!!

    • @architech007
      @architech007 6 лет назад +11

      Good old Babylon 5, oh boy am I glad to see a fresh comment. I miss the show, tears start running when I think about the show and all of the actors/staff who died and went beyond the Rim ... Sinclair, Garibaldi, Franklin, Zak ... and the list will just go on ....
      Hope you had an amazing New Year, friend!
      In Valens name!

    • @Ryooken
      @Ryooken 5 лет назад +6

      Damn I was going to say that!

    • @Ryooken
      @Ryooken 5 лет назад +1

      That's not exactly true. You have to consider that some of these folks are young so they may only be referencing the events of their time without realizing there is a broader history at play.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 5 лет назад +15

      Wouldn't that be "MEGA!!!!!"

    • @ModelTrainOutsider
      @ModelTrainOutsider 5 лет назад +11

      @Jeremiah Boyd No, this portrayal would be Fox News. Hence the Trumpian phrase of "alternative facts." Just because you are brainwashed does change the analogy.

  • @tomjustis7237
    @tomjustis7237 5 лет назад +133

    Anyone else notice from the moment he appeared Garibaldi was looking around with a "What the hell is this?" look on his face? The problem with recreating a man like Garibaldi is that you GET a man like Garibaldi!

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 5 лет назад +18

      It's a nice sign of what was to come in that one.

    • @evertonporter7887
      @evertonporter7887 3 года назад +14

      They made him too perfect...and it literally blew up in their faces!

    • @BangerangEliko
      @BangerangEliko Год назад +2

      ironic considering the actor playing Garibaldi wouldve been in favor of making earth great again
      considering the route he took after the show

    • @Phillip_Fry
      @Phillip_Fry Год назад

      @@BangerangEliko Because democrats are the real warmongering fascists

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Год назад +1

      Can I call you Danny?"

  • @stephenkolostyak4087
    @stephenkolostyak4087 3 года назад +70

    "We need breathing room."
    "Earth, Hitler, 1938."
    "I beg your pardon."
    "Well, I see we have a long way to go."
    - Star Trek 6

    • @JnEricsonx
      @JnEricsonx 3 года назад +1

      And now Christopher Plummer is gone. Jesus everyone's getting hit in the feels.

    • @613harbinger316
      @613harbinger316 3 года назад +4

      My favorite Trek movie! (even more than Khan, as blasphemous as it may sound, lol)

    • @SlykeThePhoxenix
      @SlykeThePhoxenix Год назад +3

      You may notice the SS on his shirt.

    • @55Quirll
      @55Quirll Год назад

      The US Government vs the Plans Indians in Westward Expansion

    • @richardmoloney689
      @richardmoloney689 Год назад +2

      Russia 2022

  • @0megacron
    @0megacron 5 лет назад +192

    Babylon 5 was not "prophetic" - it was just a study of history. The concept of governments "altering" the truth to reflect policy or agenda is neither new nor extreme. Every corrupt government has done it, as far back as the Roman Empire, and probably before them even. If anything, Babylon 5 is a great example of why it's important to teach children history.... because history always repeats itself.

    • @johnbanks4761
      @johnbanks4761 5 лет назад +8

      history does in certain ways repeat itself but babylon 5 hit the nail firmly on the head in our lifetime things have changed, certain things are going on that mirror perfectly what happened on the show

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts 5 лет назад +11

      @@johnbanks4761 liberals want to destroy history, witness the changing of words like racism, pedophile. the destruction of statues, murals etc.

    • @CaptXpendable
      @CaptXpendable 5 лет назад +15

      Right, it was no more prophetic than when The Doctor, in the 70's, said, "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."

    • @CrniWuk
      @CrniWuk 4 года назад +1

      If it always repeats it self why teach it at all?

    • @TonkarzOfSolSystem
      @TonkarzOfSolSystem 4 года назад +2

      Ancient Egyptians are well known for it.

  • @evertonporter7887
    @evertonporter7887 3 года назад +19

    1:38
    "You, the real you are deceased."
    Oh God😥! This really tears me up now that Mira Furlan has passed away recently.

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG Год назад +4

      The only one of the 4 left at that table is Sheridan/Bruce Boxleitner.

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 5 лет назад +48

    Reminds me of the silliness that are "alternative facts." Very Orwellian

    • @turkeyspoony
      @turkeyspoony 3 года назад

      it wasn't silly, they punctured the "good facts" of the post war consensus.
      I mean really, the presumptions are preposterous, diversity is inequality by definition is just the start of it.

    • @gohantanaka
      @gohantanaka 3 года назад +2

      If you think that’s Orwellian, wait until you hit 2021.

    • @macbuff81
      @macbuff81 3 года назад +3

      @@gohantanaka What are you playing at? I someone get the impression you're trying to project.

    • @TangomanX2008
      @TangomanX2008 3 года назад +3

      @@turkeyspoony also, his "room to expand" is a parallel to Hitlers idea about living space, which basically meant getting rid of non "Aryans" out of eastern Europe, particularly Slavic peoples, so these guys were, in addition to being Orwellian Truthers, were Nazi-ish.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 3 года назад +3

      @@turkeyspoony Fuck off. We don't want you Nazi apologists.

  • @tracearchon7453
    @tracearchon7453 3 года назад +12

    So babylon5 was the first to call out fake news.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад +6

      'Way, 'way earlier than that. George Orwell's "newspeak" was almost fifty years before this, and he's only the most famous example.

    • @GayLPer
      @GayLPer 8 месяцев назад +2

      ISN was directly based on Fox News, after all.

    • @DrownedInExile
      @DrownedInExile 6 месяцев назад +1

      JMS once described the late unlamented Rush Limbaugh as "America's leading proctologist". JMS was ahead of the game!

  • @OriginalMergatroid
    @OriginalMergatroid Год назад +7

    "Reverse correct info speak"
    Ya gotta love it.....

  • @CrniWuk
    @CrniWuk 4 года назад +11

    What it always comes down to is power. And the struggle for power.

  • @TonkarzOfSolSystem
    @TonkarzOfSolSystem 3 года назад +29

    I used to think things like that "SS" logo were too heavy handed in associating characters like this with fascism and the Nazis. Now I realize it's not only realistic, but too subtle. These guys would be hanging up Swastikas.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 3 года назад +7

      Fascists aren't exactly original in their trappings.

  • @smcneal057
    @smcneal057 7 лет назад +67

    Oh WOW!!!! Babylon 5 was ahead of the curve on Alternative Facts.

    • @Eldritchfan
      @Eldritchfan 7 лет назад +2

      You project so nicely! Papa Alinsky would be proud!

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 6 лет назад +20

      It's not like they just invented that stuff. Doublespeak and the Official Line have been with us for a very, very long time.

    • @Tripp1993
      @Tripp1993 6 лет назад +7

      When the truth comes out that the 2016 election was stolen, and they find a way to solve this mess, make Straczynski head of a council to help the United States, and in fact, the whole world, heal from the whole trauma.
      P. S. Orwell was the first to predict what you call (shudder) alternative facts.

    • @WingedHeron
      @WingedHeron 6 лет назад +1

      Absolutely - the world is behind this suggestion, Tripp1993

    • @justanotherlikeyou
      @justanotherlikeyou 5 лет назад +2

      @@Tripp1993 The 2016 election was not stolen. You've been brainwashed by the propagandists in the main stream media to think it was. Donald Trump is not the enemy. He won the election fair and square by the rules set down in the U.S. Constitution. The propagandists in the media have been working overtime since the election to delegitimize his win, and it's been causing serious problems in our country. Stop listening to their common refrain and start listening to another side like #walkaway or the Amazing Lucas here on RUclips.

  • @pspicer777
    @pspicer777 5 лет назад +29

    Wait? What? Did the writers travel back in time? They nailed this.

    • @IONATVS
      @IONATVS 4 года назад +12

      pspicer777 No, they just remembered WWII or Orwell’s novels. The specific wording changes, but corrupt governments have always been fond of euphemisms for their propaganda-the word “propaganda” itself is a euphemism, literally meaning “[information] which ought to be propagated”

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 3 года назад +7

      @@IONATVS Don't forget McCarthy, HUAC, and the Red scare of the 1950's.

  • @Medicranger
    @Medicranger 3 года назад +14

    The original Alternative Facts...

    • @greggoat6570
      @greggoat6570 Год назад

      You are living in 2017 with that jargon

    • @GayLPer
      @GayLPer 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@greggoat6570
      Because there are people who still unironically believe in those "alternative facts" despite being refuted time and time again, simply because to admit otherwise would be to admit that the man they hyped up as their savior was nothing more than a con artist.

  • @55Quirll
    @55Quirll Год назад +3

    Sounds like the Bureaucrats and Politicians we see on TV and read about, scary how this has become
    You have a new subscriber.

  • @Cyberpuppy63
    @Cyberpuppy63 2 года назад +18

    "We have lost our uniqueness - we have been polluted by too many ideas. " ... An interesting way of describing both a lack of adaptation, and the fantasy of not changing (to an external culture or p/o/v.".

  • @anakeveney7186
    @anakeveney7186 2 года назад +4

    I do love what happens next, though. The functionary had it coming.

  • @adaeptzulander2928
    @adaeptzulander2928 3 года назад +2

    Never make your holograms sapient. Bad idea.

  • @alexandermathieson4774
    @alexandermathieson4774 2 года назад +4

    they nailed this on the fuckin head

  • @DocNo27
    @DocNo27 3 года назад +13

    And the hits keep coming - yesterday Websters online dictionary updated the definition of “preference” in reaction to new political talking points.
    The more things change the more they stay the same.
    Paper has a significant advantage here - they can’t just modify it on a whim. Glad I have B5 on physical media.

    • @1982Obsidian
      @1982Obsidian 3 года назад +1

      Great to see other people came searching for this classic recently after seeing the state of current week.

    • @DocNo27
      @DocNo27 3 года назад +2

      @@1982Obsidian I didn't search for it, surprisingly it was in my RUclips recommendations. I watched it earlier and then days later the Websters thing happened and it was unbelievably on the nose.
      We have a large swath of people who think 1984 was an instruction manual instead of a cautionary tale - that's what's really scary.

  • @Adamwofford
    @Adamwofford 7 лет назад +56

    did anyone notice the SS on his uniform? sounds like he was saying the same thing a 5'7 German said back in the 30's

    • @GooglyEyedJoe
      @GooglyEyedJoe 7 лет назад +26

      And "Earth needs room to expand" sounds suspiciously like "Lebensraum".

    • @eDDyL666
      @eDDyL666 4 года назад +1

      also the symbol was used in another show called time trax
      by another race purist

    • @duaneelliott5194
      @duaneelliott5194 4 года назад +4

      And like the americans "manifest destiny". Like the european "right of discovery" same bullshit.

    • @Xoiskin1969X
      @Xoiskin1969X 4 года назад +4

      sounds like he is an anchor of OAN or FOX....

    • @Skyblade12
      @Skyblade12 3 года назад +4

      xoiskin1969x Those anchors are relatively consistent. It’s the anchors of any leftist station that twist facts to their narrative. From 8 months of “peaceful protests” and cops being bad as the left burned cities and slaughtered dozens, to suddenly being the champion of law and order the one day it got them power. From decrying corporations’ involvement in politics, to cheering because you think the corporations are on your side. Your side literally tried to rewrite math because it was too “white”. You are nothing but racist bigots without principle or truth.

  • @Zaluskowsky
    @Zaluskowsky 5 лет назад +6

    Just broadcasted the whole damn thing!

  • @YourTamedLion
    @YourTamedLion Год назад +2

    Don the Con approves this video title 😂

  • @MichaelCollins1922
    @MichaelCollins1922 7 месяцев назад +1

    Still an amazing piece of character storytelling. Even though they are holograms, Sheridan and company immediately saw thorugh the BS that the New Earth Government was trying to put out.

  • @copman021
    @copman021 7 лет назад +91

    Good facts = alternative facts
    Funny how prophetic it actually was

    • @Eldritchfan
      @Eldritchfan 7 лет назад +6

      You project so nicely! Papa Alinsky would be proud!

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 5 лет назад +4

      And its atemporal.. when the episodes where the night watch began to arrest people for criticing the goverment and that "peace officer" woman had that conversation with Sheridan about Earth not having any trouble "only isolated incidents, and some antipatriotic and traitor folks" someone asked him if he based that on Nazi germany and he said you didnt need to go any far to see that

    • @CRocketSlim
      @CRocketSlim 5 лет назад +5

      @@Eldritchfan The point JMS was making with this episode flew over your head

    • @Eldritchfan
      @Eldritchfan 5 лет назад +1

      @@CRocketSlim I got the point, but you lefties don't get the application. But then, JMS has become a bit of a libshit in the years since.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 3 года назад +7

      @@Eldritchfan ^ The endless paranoia of the right-wing brain.

  • @abigailblackmon1144
    @abigailblackmon1144 3 года назад +4

    Yo, this some real 1984 stuff going on right here

  • @rfletch62
    @rfletch62 3 года назад +1

    Well, the lightning marks on the lab coat were giveaway...

  • @remembergandhi1434
    @remembergandhi1434 2 года назад +6

    Good facts will make the Erath great again!

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax Год назад

      what's Erath?

    • @Phillip_Fry
      @Phillip_Fry Год назад +1

      @@LordTalax He voted for Biden, don’t expect high IQ

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu Год назад

      @@Phillip_Fry IQ.*, Einstein.

  • @moppypuppy781
    @moppypuppy781 3 года назад +9

    Conservative "alternative facts."

  • @duffbeer989
    @duffbeer989 5 лет назад +5

    What season is this from? Or is this part of that 1 000 000 year review?

    • @catsi563
      @catsi563 5 лет назад +4

      Its from deconstruction of falling stars the last episode of season 4 the 1000000 year review yes,

  • @ManuelBarner
    @ManuelBarner 3 года назад +1

    i never noticed the "SS" Badge on his chest before..

  • @FinalFirebrand
    @FinalFirebrand 6 лет назад +32

    This sequence always made me feel queasy...
    And with the idea of 'alternative facts' actually taking hold in the mainstream consciousness...
    I'm vomitting hourly.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 6 лет назад +14

      Kind of scary how that man-child and his administration say so much shit that people basically shrug and go "whatever". The outrageous and shocking is the new norm.

    • @bulletcat139
      @bulletcat139 5 лет назад +3

      I know how you feel. @finalFirebrand

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 5 лет назад +6

      @@Ragitsu Probably because Trump doesn't actually say half the crap you *think* he does. Totally a man-baby, but not so much on the genocidal dictator front. All that dude's going to do is use the presidency to make boatloads of money then sod off with his pension.
      The real crazy stuff is how the media can just make stuff up and people buy it without question because it's backing their side. This applies to democrats and republicans.
      Thinking about it, this isn't an Orwellian nightmare, but rather another fairly prophetic but far less known source.
      With Obama & Trump, we've been given a lot of baseless doomsaying which not only serve as distractions from the bad stuff they're actually doing, but make people more jaded about accusations against the leaders. By the time we get a real dictator, the people will be far too jaded to take it seriously.

    • @fieldy409
      @fieldy409 5 лет назад +6

      @@InfernosReaper He's not a genocidal dictator but its a statistical fact that more of Trumps statements are wrong compared to his peers when you check factchecking sites. So they are either outright lies or things he was mistaken upon. And everybody just believes his falsehoods.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 5 лет назад

      @@fieldy409 The ratio is actually about the same. The real difference is that Trump never shuts the hell up.

  • @SlykeThePhoxenix
    @SlykeThePhoxenix Год назад

    Does anyone see the SS on his shirt? This is the first time I've noticed it.

  • @TheJarrodh
    @TheJarrodh 2 года назад +1

    That ended way too soon :(

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 4 года назад +5

    Are, yes, the good space Nazi.

  • @NexUbra
    @NexUbra 3 года назад +2

    And this apparently happens in 2020...

    • @thorable530
      @thorable530 3 года назад

      more appropriately in 2021, as one side actually does the things it accuses the other side of wanting.

  • @sophiawilson8696
    @sophiawilson8696 5 лет назад +1

    So the year is now 2762

  • @michaelweigel8253
    @michaelweigel8253 2 года назад

    Notice the SS patch on his coat?

  • @echofourmike85
    @echofourmike85 Год назад +1

    Smalls like the shit going on today.

  • @theotherfritz2643
    @theotherfritz2643 2 месяца назад

    Attempting to delegitimise a political entity by "deconstructing" historical figures associated with it? JMS really did predict modern progressivism, didn't he?

  • @icwiz
    @icwiz 5 лет назад +2

    1:56 did he look at the screen?

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 3 года назад

      Of course he does. He is basically doing a documentary. Or maybe a sales pitch, to get serious resources?
      In any case, he is persistently adressing the Audience since his first words.

    • @613harbinger316
      @613harbinger316 3 года назад +2

      @@christopherg2347 Yes. I think it was supposed to be a demonstration for the powers that be of how the technology could be used to create their propaganda. Kind of scary when you think of the fears of deepfakes right now.

  • @randallb84
    @randallb84 5 лет назад +12

    Dear God, it's a 1984 arc, and yes I'm well aware of the nonsense currently going on in the media.

    • @Taliesyn42
      @Taliesyn42 4 года назад +1

      More of a scene. This particular episode was a series of loosely connected vignettes. But yep, definitely based on 1984.-

    • @ericpelote998
      @ericpelote998 3 года назад +4

      And what nonsense is that ? I seem to remember a caravan of people heading for the border to overrun it !! Then nothing , I seem to remember , having evidence that a former president spied on somebody , where was that evidence ? I seem to remember having proof of something on a drive , what happened to that ? You used the media to spread your fear , yet when push to show your evidence you have none , then you say its fake news !!!

  • @thisisme2476
    @thisisme2476 3 года назад +2

    Today, it is alternative facts vs Good facts....

  • @stevebalogh2320
    @stevebalogh2320 3 года назад

    in the first few episodes they sure did give out oxys a lot for pain lol lol

  • @evertonporter7887
    @evertonporter7887 7 лет назад +19

    Earth does Brexit....

    • @PaiSAMSEN
      @PaiSAMSEN 7 лет назад +5

      ....ISAxit?

    • @Eldritchfan
      @Eldritchfan 7 лет назад +5

      So cute how you project! If only the damn backwards US were like Britain, where anyone who voices an unapproved opinion will be met with the full power of the state! It's all those damn guns the people have that keep us from knowing our place! A civilized society is a compliant and disarmed society that believes and obeys the government!

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 6 лет назад +7

      It is funny - rather than cute - how all those guns owned by the civilian population of the United States of America haven't done much to push back against the horrible policies of their own government. The gun nuts talk a big game, but that's all it is...talk.

    • @GooglyEyedJoe
      @GooglyEyedJoe 6 лет назад +5

      I don't remember the European Union ever saving the universe from being conquered by an alien species nor putting the good of *every* member first.

    • @PassportBrosBusinessClass
      @PassportBrosBusinessClass 6 лет назад +1

      Everton Porter
      EX IT

  • @KMerrow
    @KMerrow 5 лет назад +1

    WTF is "reverse correct infospeak"?

    • @g00gleminus96
      @g00gleminus96 5 лет назад +9

      propaganda

    • @jekubfimbulwing5370
      @jekubfimbulwing5370 5 лет назад +8

      Politically correct ideologies

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 5 лет назад +9

      Reverse correct=opposite of correct=untrue
      Infospeak=propaganda
      In short, a euphemism for lies.
      Please read 1984.
      You will understand a lot more about things if you do.
      This episode is a mix of Nazism and 1984 reimagined in the B5 setting.

  • @loubloom8749
    @loubloom8749 2 года назад

    Le heckin nazis let's get em reddit!!! I like B5 though.

  • @malvane8061
    @malvane8061 5 лет назад +7

    Everyone thinks their side (political, religious, ideological) contains most of the facts, while the other side(s) cling to superstition, falsehoods, and dogma.

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 3 года назад +2

      Sorry, but if the others sides arguments are "they are counting votes of dead pets", I seriously doubt the other side has any facts.

    • @Skyblade12
      @Skyblade12 3 года назад

      Christopher G What a lovely straw man. How about “why did you tell a lie to send poll watchers home”? “Why did four swing states all supposedly stop counting at the same time and all come back with vote dumps 99%+ for Biden”? Why did counties in Georgia suddenly become bluer than LA?
      And, of course, “if you have nothing to hide, why are you refusing to allow any investigations or audits?”

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 3 года назад +2

      @@Skyblade12 There have been *all* the audits. This whole argument was pure trumpshit.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 3 года назад

      @@Skyblade12 All of those talking points are bullshit. The courts already ruled against your Orange God.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад

      When one side denies verifiable facts and evidence, substituting positions supported only by emotion and wishful thinking, that side loses all credibility.

  • @bleekcer
    @bleekcer 3 года назад +4

    In order to make this work, you have to convince people about the goodfacts being realfacts, and make up badfacts while presenting them as goodfacts from the enemy. Then you have your goodfact seen as realfact, and you also have goodfacts from the enemy as contrast seen as not being real. In worst case your government present the realfacts coming from the enemy as just being goodfacts in order to dismiss them for political reasons.
    I mean, politically, a presented realfact is nothing else than a preferred goodfact in most cases.

  • @upandaljm
    @upandaljm Год назад

    I.e. new speak

  • @Rhyman1992
    @Rhyman1992 Год назад +3

    Anyone notice how mich this is like CNN?

    • @GayLPer
      @GayLPer 8 месяцев назад +1

      ISN was directly inspired by Fox News, which has only become more extreme since this episode aired.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 5 месяцев назад

      @@GayLPerThey always think it is "the other guys".

  • @jodybranson925
    @jodybranson925 4 года назад +5

    "Good facts;" don't you mean, " alternative facts?" This is too close to what's happening now under Trump!

    • @thorable530
      @thorable530 3 года назад +2

      Said by those who burned cities over a lie during the height of a pandemic. Irregularities? Only people who are bad people question the system, in fact its not allowed on here just as it should be. Woke Hedge fund managers and their wallstreet toadies did nothing wrong, only someone backing orange man would question the systems integrity.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 3 года назад +2

      @@thorable530 How does it feel to be on the wrong side of history?

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад

      @@thorable530 Those backing orange man only questioned the system's integrity when it was no longer to their advantage. As long as they were winning it was "law and order," when it looked like they'd lose it became "disbelieve and defy." Those who questioned the system under orange man did so long before he took power.

  • @hopfer66
    @hopfer66 11 месяцев назад

    I´m impressive with this show every time, seem´s brazilian Lula da Silva´s party watch the entire 5 seasons and decide to go with the Shadows. This clip is exactly what it is happening with the brazilian justicial system. But the word is not facts it is "resignifying things"

  • @F40PH-2CAT
    @F40PH-2CAT 3 года назад +8

    This is basically how the modern progressive acts today.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 3 года назад +8

      ^ Projection.

    • @F40PH-2CAT
      @F40PH-2CAT 3 года назад +4

      @@Ragitsu Denial

    • @613harbinger316
      @613harbinger316 3 года назад +4

      It goes back and forth. Right now with the stranglehold on media and culture, it's definitely the left who's doing most of it. But give it enough time and the right will have their turn on the swings.

    • @mikevignola4213
      @mikevignola4213 2 года назад +3

      @@613harbinger316 you just view it that way because you don't view the side you agree with as propaganda.
      Perception is a powerful tool depending on your beliefs. The lines between fact and fiction can get pretty blurred when out human emotions get involved.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад +2

      There are many verifiable facts and evidence which only one side is deliberately denying, substituting positions based solely on emotion and wishful thinking. No side is guiltless, but treating them as equivalent just makes it easier for us all to walk down the fascist road, yet again.

  • @easyeagle3730
    @easyeagle3730 4 года назад +3

    Good Facts vs. Real Facts vs. Fake News.
    **********Welcome to Earth 2019**********

  • @karlbrundage7472
    @karlbrundage7472 2 года назад +3

    Let's Go Brandon!

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад +5

      The embodiment of this approach -- slogans instead of ideas.

    • @karlbrundage7472
      @karlbrundage7472 2 года назад

      @@danieldickson8591 Not a slogan. A rallying cry. A call to action. We don't need new ideas; we simply need to get back to the foundations that our forebears laid out.
      The puppet-masters controlling Biden have a plan to destroy this nation. We say no...........................

    • @Cainite
      @Cainite Год назад

      @@danieldickson8591 Black LIves Matter!

    • @Phillip_Fry
      @Phillip_Fry Год назад

      @@danieldickson8591 Like oRAngE mAn BAd

  • @rizon72
    @rizon72 Год назад

    When it comes to history, we change it based upon society. Even today, it changes not on truth, but society.

  • @crazylarryjr
    @crazylarryjr Год назад +2

    This sounds so current it's frightening, J. Michael Straczynski was an absolute prophet. he predicted the whole facts vs Feelings mindset currently on display in the woke movement right now. It is frightening how much this man got right, the predictions and the real outcomes he saw and put into this masterpiece of a series

    • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      @Lucius_Chiaraviglio Год назад +6

      The Woke Movement is not the problem. The woke people are the ones who are aware of injustice -- preferably by having had a good history education and not sleeping through it, but if you can't get that, then being observant and thinking critically (which you would need to make good use of the history education anyway) will have to do.

    • @GayLPer
      @GayLPer 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
      The ironic thing is that by blaming the "woke movement" they're actually engaging in the very farce they accuse the "woke movement" of being.

  • @wadearendsee4430
    @wadearendsee4430 2 года назад +1

    This show just proves fascists and authoritarian figures have no original ideas and use the same tactics, its why it seems eerily similar to what's happening for the last 5 years in America but in reality B5 is based on the events of Nazi Germany. This show even laments this, because in B5 they toppled a fascist regime but hundreds of years into the future more arise to take their place and are making the same mistake again.
    They might tone down the imagery or attempt to appear less radical to detract from being compared to their predecessors but I assure you its the same shit every time.

  • @EricZakh
    @EricZakh 3 года назад +1

    Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, their side and the truth. Without any understanding of "their side" you are never quite likely to shine a light on the truth.
    If you only have one narrative and you don't understand your counterparts, you are likely blind and ignorant. And the irony here is that those of you who do not know what you do not know are doomed to believe I am talking about the other side. Whereas those of you who do know what you do not know will know I am talking about the other side.
    And both sides will express it isn't them. Celestial levels of irony here.

  • @zardos13
    @zardos13 2 года назад

    In sort "Fake News"

  • @Volthoom
    @Volthoom 4 года назад +5

    The people desperately trying to tie this to their own personal political rivalries are kinda hilarious.
    Fellas, everyone in power does that. And if someone in power doesn't do that, then that means they're too stupid or lack resources to do that, and they'll likely be out of power very soon.

    • @fieldy409
      @fieldy409 4 года назад +6

      No, good people in power can exist. This is just what the bad politicians want you to think. So that when something bad comes out about them, it seems less shocking because people say "Well, they're all just as bad."
      It's a subtle trick to mold your thinking that way which allows them to get away with corruption.

    • @1982Obsidian
      @1982Obsidian 3 года назад +1

      Saying it's common or ageless is one thing, you are not incorrect, but the absolute STATE of BOLD FACED LIES told by the mainstream media on behalf of their puppet-masters, and people being too docile / stupid to question the narrative.
      If you do not think it is worse right now, with the current reach and influence of modern communication such as social-media and the Internet, combined with peoples wilful ignorance, we're at a turning point as to whether the global populace accept comfort and ignorance, vs effort and enlightenment.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад +1

      The saddest part is that the human race has been down this path so many times, including recent history, that it should be obvious, yet it still works. And Sulfur, we can't lose sight of the fundamental difference between lying when necessary for the greater good, and lying when convenient for the good of yourself.

  • @walterengler5709
    @walterengler5709 2 года назад +3

    Why does this sound exactly like CRT and Socialist/Liberal New Speak to me?

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад +5

      I would guess it's because you don't know what CRT and Socialism actually are. Not what the politicians and pundits say they are, what their principles and priorities really are.

    • @walterengler5709
      @walterengler5709 2 года назад +2

      @@danieldickson8591 Given the minor degrees I have in political science and history .. I know better what those items are than 98% of all Americans.

    • @yveslafrance2806
      @yveslafrance2806 2 года назад +1

      @@walterengler5709 LOL, are you also an astronaut and an immunologist?

    • @walterengler5709
      @walterengler5709 2 года назад +1

      @@yveslafrance2806 Only part time as those jobs are SOO boring. My real passion is being a stunt double in movies for beefy actors, while I work on my version of a grand unified theory off to the side to pass the time between takes.

    • @gdavis
      @gdavis Год назад

      @@danieldickson8591 tbh it sounds more like right wing rethoric to anything remotely foreign. Border talk and threats from abroad. But it is also on the more extreme side of it. More proud boys then republicans.