We've been using Udio to do a lot of cinematic audio experiments for film scene compositions, as well as some fun cover songs (some of which are on our channel) for us, the biggest thing getting in the way of some seriously great pieces of music was the control factor. Udio only lets you output at 33s at a time, with limited adjustment features that would affect the whole segment of music. Often we found that it was only a tiny section of that 33s segment that we wanted to adjust but we had to throw away the whole piece and completely regenerate. Here's our latest experiment, a cover of Avril Lavigne's 'I'm With You', which for the most part stands up......but there's definitely some disjointed bits in there that could have used some tighter finessing ruclips.net/video/VeGVbdZ_vFc/видео.htmlsi=h7WmlqKFpd0kVjJj
Wow, checked out your video - it is fantastic! Damn! In regards to the control factor, I totally agree with you. I think that once they add in adjustment features, this tool will become epic. Do you download the full (33 second) bits and then adjust them in DAW of your choice? It must be tricky as everything is on a single track?
@@kingy-ai thanks for checking the track out and for your feedback 😃 actually for the sake of this experiment the entire track was completed on Udio with no third-party edits or enhancement. It was definitely fiddley and required some prompt experimenting but I am learning to have some mild control via the [***] commands you can layer into the lyrics section which helps more organically link the 33s segments. A couple of other tips........when a segment generates Udio will often add some additional tags beyond the ones you put in on your original prompt for the song.......implement these also each time you 'extend' and this helps keep the style consistency fluid. From an export perspective, for those music production illiterate like me.....if you upload to spotify through a distributor like 'distrokid', it will give you the option to apply a master enhancement which helps polish the track quite a bit.
@@redempireproductions Fantastic! I will pin this comment, as there are some great tips in here! I appreciate you leaving these great tips for me and my viewers! Very cool! :)
@@kingy-ai thank you! Appreciate the opportunity to have a chat, we are coming from the film industry in Australia and AI usage and knowledge is extremely limited and still quite taboo, so nice to be able to get on here and have some discourse and share some knowledge!
I'm impressed by how AI evolution keeps getting better, improving tools. While udio has its flaws, being in beta, I believe it will evolve even further over time. I even tried creating my own music, and I can say it has been an interesting experience.
I tried to download a song I made there to MP3 format from that site, but it gave me a weird folder that wouldn't let me access the song offline. Is there any way to fix that?
As far as I can tell (though I'm no lawyer), they are! Here is the bit from their TOS Page. We hereby permit you to use the Services, provided that you comply with these Terms in connection with all such use. If any software, content or other materials owned or controlled by us are distributed to you as part of your use of the Services, we hereby grant you, a personal, non-assignable, non-sublicensable, non-transferrable, and non-exclusive right and license to access and display such software, content and materials provided to you as part of the Services (and right to download a single copy of the App onto your applicable equipment or device), in each case for the sole purpose of enabling you to use the Services as permitted by these Terms.
Udio doesn’t appear to claim any copyight, so anything you generate is clear for you to use as you wish. But someone who generated a song listed on this site that you might want to use might claim copyright under certain situations. Purely AI generated music with no human contribution beyond a prompt cannot currently be copyrighted as per the US Copyright Office’s current policy. That might change as this is all new and laws have not yet addressed this beyond policy. And as is, if a human makes significant contributions to an otherwise AI generated song, it is copyright eligible. So if I use an Udio generated song as the basis of a new work where I wrote the lyrics and changed a few parts in the music, I CAN copyright it. Since you cannot tell if a person who generated a song here wrote the lyrics or the lyrics were generated by Udio, I wouldn’t assume there is no copyright on at least the lyrics of any song that contains lyrics because there might be. And if they later made a few changes in the music, the whole song can be copyrighted, not just the lyrics.
@@alexadigitalradio In the U.S., copyright is granted once the work is created in a reproducible form. This is by a human creator, so if you as the user use your own lyrics, it is copyrighted. Registering for a copyright is done to ensure legal protections, but is not necessary to be granted the copyright. As I understand it, the A.I. generated lyrics are not protected by copyright. My question is what happens when lyrics created by a human is paired with music that was created based on the structure of the lyrics a human wrote? In my view, if my lyrics influenced the structure of a melody generated by A.I., I should be able to claim copyright on that music, as well. The structure of the lyrics certainly affect the melody that is generated. But that's something up for legal discussion and debate, I'm sure.
Yep. Me too! I am doing a tutorial right now on how to create full songs (in 30 second increments). But it is definitely not the same as doing full songs in one click! Do you think they will leave that for paying customers (in the future)?
Yes, you just write them again for example; [chorus] Hello world, this is my chorus Helli world, this is my chorus And the it will repeat it, the only thing I don’t like working with manual mode is that udio still adds lyrics that sound ok, are in the rhythm BUT don’t mean nothing, as udio inputs lyrics that dont mean nothing to anyone are not any spesific language ofcourse this will spoil your lyrics too😢
What bothers me is there is so much filler from the AI. How is there when you max your content to its limit? And why does it add filler a hook instead of starting immediately. Even using the section selector it still ignores user demands. sigh
Its not a DJ tool. It generates instrumentation and vocals using word prompts. You are adding not removing. Imagine if they incorporated this into beatpads. 👀 Creating samples would be interesting.
It's all on their site. But as of right now, you've got the green light, as long as you are a paid user. Or were a paid user at the time of creation :)
@@TravelinChina At this moment there is no paying option. The system is in beta-testing. The copyright thing is simple. If you use creations of other artists, you must clear the copyright.
What if I generate music while I am not subscribed? Who owns it? What if I generate music while I am not subscribed, and after 5 minutes I subscribed? Who owns it? What if I generate music while I subscribed? Who owns it? What if I generate music while I am subscribed and forget to pay my subscription for the next month?? Who owns it? Do I need to give credits even when I'm in Paid plan? What if I generate music while I am not subscribed, but I don't want to give credits, but I didn't know that I need to give credits, then later I noticed that I realized if you're a free user, you need to give credits, can I subscribe so that I can have the right not to give credits?
@@kingy-ai LOL! Honestly, I can usually peg the Canadian accents on RUclips videos, and picked up on your accent, too. I'm from southern Indiana in the States, for the record. Thanks for the informative video.
We've been using Udio to do a lot of cinematic audio experiments for film scene compositions, as well as some fun cover songs (some of which are on our channel) for us, the biggest thing getting in the way of some seriously great pieces of music was the control factor. Udio only lets you output at 33s at a time, with limited adjustment features that would affect the whole segment of music. Often we found that it was only a tiny section of that 33s segment that we wanted to adjust but we had to throw away the whole piece and completely regenerate. Here's our latest experiment, a cover of Avril Lavigne's 'I'm With You', which for the most part stands up......but there's definitely some disjointed bits in there that could have used some tighter finessing ruclips.net/video/VeGVbdZ_vFc/видео.htmlsi=h7WmlqKFpd0kVjJj
Wow, checked out your video - it is fantastic! Damn! In regards to the control factor, I totally agree with you. I think that once they add in adjustment features, this tool will become epic. Do you download the full (33 second) bits and then adjust them in DAW of your choice? It must be tricky as everything is on a single track?
@@kingy-ai thanks for checking the track out and for your feedback 😃 actually for the sake of this experiment the entire track was completed on Udio with no third-party edits or enhancement. It was definitely fiddley and required some prompt experimenting but I am learning to have some mild control via the [***] commands you can layer into the lyrics section which helps more organically link the 33s segments. A couple of other tips........when a segment generates Udio will often add some additional tags beyond the ones you put in on your original prompt for the song.......implement these also each time you 'extend' and this helps keep the style consistency fluid. From an export perspective, for those music production illiterate like me.....if you upload to spotify through a distributor like 'distrokid', it will give you the option to apply a master enhancement which helps polish the track quite a bit.
@@redempireproductions Fantastic! I will pin this comment, as there are some great tips in here! I appreciate you leaving these great tips for me and my viewers! Very cool! :)
@@kingy-ai thank you! Appreciate the opportunity to have a chat, we are coming from the film industry in Australia and AI usage and knowledge is extremely limited and still quite taboo, so nice to be able to get on here and have some discourse and share some knowledge!
These songs are actually good!
Big time!
Keep doing what you love. You are doing a great job and your videos are amazing!!!!!
Thank you!!! :)))
I'm impressed by how AI evolution keeps getting better, improving tools. While udio has its flaws, being in beta, I believe it will evolve even further over time. I even tried creating my own music, and I can say it has been an interesting experience.
Blown away at what I’ve been able to create
For sure. This is legit amazing. I made a song I actually liked about my bulldog. Shocking stuff! :)
I tried to download a song I made there to MP3 format from that site, but it gave me a weird folder that wouldn't let me access the song offline. Is there any way to fix that?
When i add my own lyrics, my songs cut off on playback at exactly 2 minutes, so whats the deal?
Where the downloaded mp3 file ends up?can’t find it at all
Are they copyright free?
As far as I can tell (though I'm no lawyer), they are! Here is the bit from their TOS Page.
We hereby permit you to use the Services, provided that you comply with these Terms in connection with all such use. If any software, content or other materials owned or controlled by us are distributed to you as part of your use of the Services, we hereby grant you, a personal, non-assignable, non-sublicensable, non-transferrable, and non-exclusive right and license to access and display such software, content and materials provided to you as part of the Services (and right to download a single copy of the App onto your applicable equipment or device), in each case for the sole purpose of enabling you to use the Services as permitted by these Terms.
Udio doesn’t appear to claim any copyight, so anything you generate is clear for you to use as you wish. But someone who generated a song listed on this site that you might want to use might claim copyright under certain situations.
Purely AI generated music with no human contribution beyond a prompt cannot currently be copyrighted as per the US Copyright Office’s current policy. That might change as this is all new and laws have not yet addressed this beyond policy. And as is, if a human makes significant contributions to an otherwise AI generated song, it is copyright eligible. So if I use an Udio generated song as the basis of a new work where I wrote the lyrics and changed a few parts in the music, I CAN copyright it. Since you cannot tell if a person who generated a song here wrote the lyrics or the lyrics were generated by Udio, I wouldn’t assume there is no copyright on at least the lyrics of any song that contains lyrics because there might be. And if they later made a few changes in the music, the whole song can be copyrighted, not just the lyrics.
@@alexadigitalradio In the U.S., copyright is granted once the work is created in a reproducible form. This is by a human creator, so if you as the user use your own lyrics, it is copyrighted. Registering for a copyright is done to ensure legal protections, but is not necessary to be granted the copyright. As I understand it, the A.I. generated lyrics are not protected by copyright. My question is what happens when lyrics created by a human is paired with music that was created based on the structure of the lyrics a human wrote? In my view, if my lyrics influenced the structure of a melody generated by A.I., I should be able to claim copyright on that music, as well. The structure of the lyrics certainly affect the melody that is generated. But that's something up for legal discussion and debate, I'm sure.
Why do all my songs get cut off exactly at 2 minutes
Hoping they lift the 30 second initial creation limit soon!
Yep. Me too! I am doing a tutorial right now on how to create full songs (in 30 second increments). But it is definitely not the same as doing full songs in one click! Do you think they will leave that for paying customers (in the future)?
If I long press the song it gives the option to extend song. Didn't try it though.
@@disculpa Very interesting, give it a crack and let me know how it goes!
Extend choice is the solution, you can add up to 10X30secs parts if I’ve understood corretly and I’ve made about 2 min tracks by using the extension
Is there a way to repeat the same chorus?
Yes, you just write them again for example;
[chorus]
Hello world, this is my chorus
Helli world, this is my chorus
And the it will repeat it, the only thing I don’t like working with manual mode is that udio still adds lyrics that sound ok, are in the rhythm BUT don’t mean nothing, as udio inputs lyrics that dont mean nothing to anyone are not any spesific language ofcourse this will spoil your lyrics too😢
If i use that music and i got copyrighted?
Nope. It’s good to use.
What bothers me is there is so much filler from the AI. How is there when you max your content to its limit? And why does it add filler a hook instead of starting immediately. Even using the section selector it still ignores user demands. sigh
Works great for jazz!
BIG TIME!!! :)
I keep getting a page with "Something went wrong!" on it when I go to their website. I guess their site is ALSO in beta 😅
Sounds like it. They are getting a lot of log ins and generations. I’m not sure how much computer they have running under their (virtual) hood. :)
Hey Curtis, cool tutorial. Just wanted to know if you can add samples, voice samples or any other custom sounds in Udio. Thanks.
What is the video though?
Does it give you stems for separating instruments and vocals ?
Its not a DJ tool. It generates instrumentation and vocals using word prompts. You are adding not removing. Imagine if they incorporated this into beatpads. 👀 Creating samples would be interesting.
if you have production software, just save the track the break it into stems via your software. that what I did. worked out pretty good!
But anyway, how do you name your song. This is important for motivation creation.
Thank you, but there's a notice that they don't allow new creations for the moment. :(
I think there servers are overloaded. They had so many people rush 'em. This is quite a tool! :)
copyright?
It's all on their site. But as of right now, you've got the green light, as long as you are a paid user. Or were a paid user at the time of creation :)
@@kingy-ai There is no paid user option. Still puzzled.
@@TravelinChina At this moment there is no paying option. The system is in beta-testing. The copyright thing is simple. If you use creations of other artists, you must clear the copyright.
Damn it says their members are maxed out for now. Cant register
Have you had any luck since you last tried?
How do I change the voice
SUNO created UDIO. Pull up the phone app.
What if I generate music while I am not subscribed? Who owns it?
What if I generate music while I am not subscribed, and after 5 minutes I subscribed? Who owns it?
What if I generate music while I subscribed? Who owns it?
What if I generate music while I am subscribed and forget to pay my subscription for the next month?? Who owns it?
Do I need to give credits even when I'm in Paid plan?
What if I generate music while I am not subscribed, but I don't want to give credits, but I didn't know that I need to give credits, then later I noticed that I realized if you're a free user, you need to give credits, can I subscribe so that I can have the right not to give credits?
Are you from Canada?
Near Vancouver yes :))
@@kingy-ai ha ha, I can hear from your accent
@@mendelgoldstein5361 Yep, I am easy to spot :). Where bouts you from?
@@kingy-ai LOL! Honestly, I can usually peg the Canadian accents on RUclips videos, and picked up on your accent, too. I'm from southern Indiana in the States, for the record. Thanks for the informative video.
check out Giving Guardians for their ai generated songs
Will do! Are they on the Udio platform?
@@kingy-ai no its RUclips channel name Giving Guardians they have ai generated songs
Nice work bro. I know more than you though.
I believe ya! I am working on a more advanced tutorial. What would you recommend I put in that video? Cheers! :)
@@kingy-ai just put your parents credit card number with the expiry, date and months, and the three numbers on the back
I’m sorry but your going way to fast explaining things