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@@CheekyFest I believe you're looking in the wrong place. The stands featured with the smaller Klipsch speakers are these and found under "Testing" section more near the top of the description. SPEAKERS STANDS - CABLES Stands: bit.ly/3xsoe9M, bit.ly/2VOs7p3 My DIY Cables: bit.ly/3Px4Jan
I took advantage of the sale on the R-50M's for $299, i picked them up today and I am amazed, how they sound crossed over with a sub, ports plugged, So now i have my Kg5.2's that i have replaced the drivers on, my Black F-300's, (Andrew rolls eyes) bought Discounted, with matching rears and center channel, I love all my Klipsch speakers. I spend all my free time listening to music.
I have heard the R-800F in a stereo music system and thought they sounded excellent. To me they have a very lively musical sound with a rough edge on them suitable for rock music.
I'm a long time fan of Klipsch as I own quite a few vintage units, but its very refreshing that you both were kind yet honest with your assessment. Keep up the great work!
I own a pair of the R-820Fs and have been very pleased with them. I primarily drive them with a Reisong A10 12w tube amp. I occasionally use my integrated Pioneer VSX-LX303 or my Kenwood KA-2500 (thank you, it's really great!) but they pale in comparison to the performance of the Reisong. When I first bought them, I toed them in to my listening position and was super pleased with their sound. They are positioned two feet from the back and side walls. Some 18 months later with no changes, someone recommended that I aim them straight down my room because, I was told, it will open the soundstage. I was skeptical but made the change. Night and day difference! I immediately began to experience a breadth, width, and depth I hadn't previously heard. Somehow there was sound behind me! The audio experience was like nothing I'd ever enjoyed at any time in my life. I can only imagine what is possible with better gear! Anyway, it sounds like the R-800Fs are inferior to the R-820Fs, which is really too bad for a next gen speaker. I bought my 820s new for $1,000 for the pair and to this day am pleased with my purchase. They can be found for half that price now without too much effort. If you ever get a chance to hear or even buy the 820s, do it. I think you'll hear something from them that sounds like it's absolutely missing from the 800s. Cheers! John
@lpromer4796 Sorry I wasn't more clear. My listening room is a rectangle with my listening positron roughly in the middle, both left to right and forward and back. I previously had the speakers toed-in to my center listening position roughly 11 feet from the speakers. I have since aimed the speakers straight down the room so they're parallel to the walls and the shape of the room. So, they are not longer aimed at my center listening position, which opened up the sound stage in my room in a way I didn't think possible if they were aimed any direction other than at me in my center listening position. Thanks!
A great and honest review. I like your constructive critiques. I'm super curious about the "stealth mode" speakers you have mentioned on your previous live session. I bet it was about bowers and wilkins. And I'm waiting for them. All of them (:
Hey guys! Just wanted to say I’m a huge fan, and I’ve been watching your videos for just over a month now. I recently got my first speaker setup in the Heco Aurora 700 and the Cambridge Audio AXR100 per your videos. You guys have been a huge help in trying to navigate this seemingly endless and often overwhelming hobby. Thanks a million!
I appreciate the constructive/honest review! I got my pair of 820s for half off ($299ea) in Nov 2021. The rest of the comments are correct, sales are pretty common for this line. After positioning them just right, (and pairing them with my older Klipsch KG2s) I was very pleased - My receiver also supports front A and B speakers so I think that with everything set up it sounds pretty good! I was curious and knocked on mine during the segment about the space in the cabinet, and I completely understand. Haha
While researching a new set of speakers I found your channel incredibly helpful & informative. This video in particular helped me dodge a bullet; thank you. I ended up buying a pair of RP-6000F II speakers. While not mega high-end, they are excellent for the price point. Again, thank you for awesome content and reviews. I respect you comments hugely, and feel you do a great job reviewing what can be high subjective experience-based products. A though for a video: I’d love to hear your opinions on the effect of bi-amping speakers for those of us with a couple of extra amp channels to play with.
I've been saying for awhile now to avoid the reference line and only look at reference premiere. For newer models. Klipsch has done a marketing move that in my opinion was not in favor of consumer's. They killed the synergy line and made it the reference line. And the old reference is now reference premiere. While this would be acceptable as a starting point considering the used market it makes things highly confusing as to which models are worth your attention and which are not. I personally fell for this when purchasing a new set of towers but returned them after only 30 min of listening and purchased the rp-280f which are very similar to the rp8000f. Great review!
I have heard the F800 series and though all of them were very good. They are not some refined speaker for listen to some fine operatic singing but they are more than capable of dealing with Rock, dance, hip hop and other genres.
As ever, a fantastic, honest review, made with integrity and care. Every week I look forward to seeing your videos! 😁😁 Ps enjoy your break - well deserved!!
🙋♀Good morning! Apologies for being a few minutes late today. Sleep once again, evades me! Hope you all are having a good weekend. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts after you watch the video!
Dang, those videos have got to be hard to do. Knowing how much you love Klipsch. Everyone misses once in a while. Have a great vacation see you in a couple weeks.
You, and only you, got me hooked with the 8000f. I bought them, and truly, I will never change them. Best overall speakers I have ever own. So upgrade to theese are a no go for me.
I used to have R-820F, which are predecessors to R-800F, and all you said here is applicable to R-820Fs as well. I could not live with them and I sold them after a less than a year of ownership. Muddy bass, tweeters piercing my ears, total lack of midrange, cabinet resonance, narrow soundstage.... That makes me think that Klipsch just changed the looks a bit, but essentially those are the same speakers. I tried 2 different amplifiers (Rotel and Marantz), and I could not make them sound any good. But I must admit that they sounded very differently with different amps, but still sound was lacking for me. Speaker positioning did not make a difference either. To be honest, I am happy I got rid of them. Sorry Klipsch.
I own a pair of r-820 I’ve been pleased with them in my small listening room. My vintage Cerwin Vega AT-15 speakers over power them, lol I complimented the Klipsch’s with a pair of r-100 subwoofers.
Great review as always. According to their respective spec sheets, the Klipsch R800F is 43 x10.9 x 17.5 inches. While the JBL the Stage a190 is 42.1 x 10.2 x 14.6. So the Klipsch is actually larger than the JBLs even if they don't seem as massive.
I stand corrected! I will say visually the JBL appear larger (to me) and even side by side I thought they were bigger. I appreciate the info!! Also, Kristi is smiling ear to ear knowing she was right ;).
I haven't heard those particular KLIPSCH Tower Speakers. But, you brought up an interesting point. The boominess problem with towers - in general - is something that I noticed from time to time. I think lots of it has to do with room interaction as opposed to cabinet resonance exclusively. What I found from time to time is that the best place for 'sound staging' is not the best place for bass - or vica versa. Going with a stand mounted/bookshelf speaker along with a subwoofer seems to mitigate the room problem to some extent. You can place the main speakers where they give the best music or movie sound. And, you can place the subwoofer in the room where it gives whatever kind of bass that you like. Also, I discovered that even towers need a subwoofer anyways in many cases.
I bid on a pair of Q 3050s from an estate sale based on your previous review. I won them and I was really blown away. As a die hard Klipsch fan (the rest of my gear is Klipsch) the Qs have become my favorite.
@@Pete.across.the.street No, I don't think it's an honest review just because it's a negative review, Andrew has gave positive reviews on other Klipsch speakers, so obviously he has got nothing against the company, so why didn't he give a rave review on this particular model? Because I'm sure that everything he said was everything he heard.
I have a pair of RP8000f speakers. At first I was disappointed with them - bass heavy and a bit veiled … but, after a couple of months of daily use, they have settled in nicely and are punching well above their price point (keep ‘em away from the wall). Maybe the 800f will improve with time, but from your review, I’d say that’d be a pretty big “maybe”.
I just recently purchased the Klipsch R-800F floorstanders and I really like them. In the past I had Klipsch Synergy F3 floorstanders. I also recently purchased a Yamaha Aventage Rx-A2a A/V receiver. I have a Klipsch 7.1 Surround Sound system. My new subwoofer is the Klipsch R-80SWi
I absolutely love my RP-8000's. I imagine these sound very similar. They are very controlled, so I'm not sure if that's because of my receiver or what, but they sound great.
Excellent review and info !! Fine comments here too. Speaker drivers are so complex - often the cone materials alone account for tone and color, the frame basket in resonance and dynamics, and electro magnetics can effect articulation with gaps in linearity. I once compared several similar 12" drivers in side by side test unmounted in open baffle form for tone and color. What a surprise that test was.
I actually have some experience with the older R-820f. I purchased an open box pair for my father on a deal. I actually thought they sounded pretty good for the price. I agree the bass is a bit coloured, and yes the mids are a bit scooped out, but on my living room integrated (NAD C316) they sounded really good. I will say that they are VERY Dependant on the amplifier though. Once we hooked them up to my dad's old Pioneer VSX-9500s, it was AWFUL. He later purchased a brand new NAD recieved, and we're back in business.
I love my RF 820f I've had them for 4 years, I run them on a 2 channel base X Amp and they're just right, however they sound much better on my Crown amplifier...I switch them around occasionally... I'm going to use them for rears and get the Polk R 700 for my next tower..
Glad I went with the Polk Audio xt70 they sound amazing. I did the sound test in best buy with the Klipsch and they sounded muffled. They did look amazing the sound wad horrendous to me though. I currently have 2 front xt70, 2 xt90, 2 xt20 for rear and xt35 for center. No subwoofer is needed. I paired them with a Denon reciever and put them on surround and man I love it. ❤️
Thank you Andrew! - and THANK YOU KRISTI ('Ahahaha - are you sure about that? ah boy' - Perfect)! In simple words - this review shows how great you are at your jobs. You are able to convey truth about products to the point.
As referenced in this review (briefly) the original RP-8000F is selling for $500 a speaker right now with the new version having come out. At this price, the RP-8000F is a GREAT value. I love mine.
There is a very good reason why you are one the most popular Hifi reviewers and now I know why - your integrity and willingness to review products good and bad are very welcomed!!
I owned and loved the mid nineties Klipsch Epic cf-3 and the Kg 5.5. They benefited from adding Rockwool insulation and I also added wooden internal horizontal bracing. Striking deep bass. I also damped the horns with a rubberized wrap on. Those plastic horns became well tempered and concise. Which were using crispy Crites custom tweeters. Resonance be gone! Not seeking out any newer Klipsch. Primary now are Martin Logan’s Esl x. Yes I’ve seen your reviews. Thanks for great content! 👍🏽
I'be been using KG 5.5s and a KV-3 with Crites tweeters for years. I just replaced my KV-3 with an RP-450C and I gotta say I'm not as blown away by it that I thought I'd be. I was going to replace the 5.5s but now I'm second guessing myself. One woofer on my right side is on its way out and will pop in 2ch mode, maybe I'll just repair the KGs
I actually believe Klipsch is saturating the market with coming out with new speakers. How much really has their new line improved over their older ones? Not enough in my opinion to go out and upgraded. I have the RF-7 ll’s , have had them for eight years and not upgrading until these stop working. And if I do upgrade, I’m definitely want to venture out and try another brand. Thanks for your honest and straightforward reviews. Great work here!
great job. I know how hard it can be to give a critical review when a manufacturer is very generously providing a sample. I think you did well recommending some better products from klipsch.
What people forget is that with the surface area of all of the speaker panels, the panels don't have to vibrate very much (not much movement) to be putting out as much sound,or more, as the drivers themselves.
I have been testing the R-50c and am surprised at how well it does given the price, yes I’m using an Anthem receiver but still it’s a great looking speaker an while it’s not perfect it does more than enough to make most people happy and there is a lot to be said for horns in cinema. So much so I’m going to challenge and get the 600f and R-50m in, and Andrew I have not experienced the same as you with the tweeter.
I got the 6000f ii for $450 Ives tested both the 8000f ii and 6000f ii and belive it or not the 6000f ii hits slightly harder it didn't drop off as fast as the 8s and the mid range was better probably because 6inchs are better for mids anyways
Could not agree more Jack. 80% of Klipsch owners I ask, “what other speakers have you auditioned to compare them to?” Every single time, “nothing - someone told me they were the best speakers.” Says it all, but props to Klipsch to somehow achieving that reputation. 🤷🏼♂️
I mean... I totally understand if you don't want acoustic treatment in ur room, but after I put up some cheap polyester panels on their first reflection points, my r-610f's improved greatly in their detail and sweet airiness, even though they already had a ton of clarity. And what is up with people wanting good deep bass from a speaker when whatever bass they have below 60-80Hz is NOTHING compared to crossing them over to subwoofers? Assuming the sub isn't terrible of course.
That happens any time a new speaker comes out. They gotta get rid of stock. The likelihood is that sales of the new model suffer until that older model is no longer available.
I’m powering these with Marantz cinema 50, adjusted internal eq to my ears, I’m using Bose passive cubes for a center removed from a Bose system. Robinson, this could change your mind about Klipsch R800 f
I have a pair of RP-8000s and I was over the moon. So when my brother was looking for a pair of speakers I recommended Klipsch. His budget could only afford him a pair of R620-f. He really liked the sound as I am sure it was a significant upgrade from his previous experience. But to me it was really terrible and all the tinkering we did with settings could not save it in my opinion. He was happy and I wasn't going to take that from him. The sound quality between a RP and a Reference I think is very noticeable.
I will say that while the NEW Reference line appears to look A LOT like Reference Premiere, the differences in build quality are immediately apparent when evaluating both side by side and it is the build quality. Even though the RP line has been designed to a budget too, the added investment in the cabinet pays off!
Thanks for the shout out on the r-50m, picked up an open box on them from bestbuy for $180 and there aren't many reviews. Using them as my front channels with an atmos system with 2 subs. Feel like I made a good choice, time will tell. I will stuff the ports per your recommendation, thanks.
to be honest after spending some time staring at a Polk R700 recently, more than most men should look at the curves of a speaker, I can tell you the build quality difference between Polk R700 and this Klipsch R-800F is obvious.
I have had the old Monitor Audio Silver RS6 for about 10 years and I live them. I figure I will have to spend a fair bit to get a meaningful upgrade, when the time comes. My dad bought the Silver 100 since he knew I was happy with MA and he’s very happy with them too. Silver 200 would seem like a good alternative to the Klipsch R-800F for those wanting floorstanding. Similar price in my area.
I kind of lost interest in Klipsch Speakers when they re-branded their synergy line to be the reference By basically just changing their IMG woofers from silver to copper and then created reference Premier, what does that even mean? the reference is the reference. Next it’ll be the reference premier plus and the reference premiere pro. A few years ago someone I know who is a little less informed, Sold his five synergy speakers on craigslist and got himself some brand new reference series speakers thinking they were getting their top of the line home theater stuff because it would’ve been the year before and I didn’t have the heart to tell him, you just bought the same Speakers (pretty much.) Also what TV do you have on the wall? It looked really good even through my phone.
Thanks for your review. I’m impressed that Klipsch speaker doesn’t measure well or doesn’t sound well (sometimes, both). As RUclipsrs are getting measurement equipment everyone can see that most of the times there is something wrong with their products. I have a pair of old reference RB51II and if I live at US where there is a plenty of free return stores, I would try a different speaker for me.
While the JBL Stage series is newer as a low cost option, the older Studio 5 series gets way more love. They were designed by Greg Timbers, and when they're on sale they're crazy inexpensive. Would love if you could give those a review, particularly the Studio 580s. Pretty sure I'm gonna grab a pair when they go on sale next.
Good to know my RP-280F's & RP280FA's are just fine, and in fact are still the best of the line showing you get what you pay for ($700 ea & $925 ea) as they do have dampener on the inside that works.
Another great, honest, review; love the casual yet upbeat nature of your disappointment with these. Hopefully this silences those who think you and Kristi are on Klipsch's payroll. PLEASE tell us you will do a review of RP8000F MkII ??
Hello I would like to ask You what is the better choice for home theater and listening of music in the room which has 24 square meters? I’m thinking about HECO AURORA 1000 or Klipsch R-600f II? In the beginning I think about R-600f II or R-800f II but after Your review I started thinking about HECO AURORA 1000. What do You think about this? Thank You for Your ansver and have a nice day.
Sorry if it’s a little off topic but I’m trying to get informed opinion about the RP 5000F. Unfortunately I just can’t find any good reviews about them. Size wise they look to be the perfect fit to an average sized room but I might be wrong…Any thoughts?
I’m moving to a new built that comes with pre wired in ceiling cutouts. 5 total, would you recommend a 5.1 all in ceiling set up, or a combination of floor and atmos ceiling speakers? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
A great example of how a speaker measures is only part of the story. Well done. And once again, my hat's off to you for that front wall design. I'll be stealing it for our future retirement home.
We only got the response curve. Again he said that the noise from the box was very bad even on the measurements. Only some of the measurements is part of the story.
Thank you Andrew and Kristi for the quick response. I just bought the 8000f 2’s and 150 sub that came with the deal . I’m leaning towards the Cambridge 100 amp to power but feel it may not be enough for the speakers. Would really appreciate your thoughts on that . The last system I had years ago was a Tfm 55x carver amp powering Cerwin Vega d7 speakers. Your reviews are definitely helpful full and realistic unlike other reviewers I have seen.
I purchased three pair of the JBL a180 only because they were less than $120 a piece the time directly from JBL, and they were new in the box never used before not refurbished in any way. For some it's all about bottom dollar price.. when it comes to obtaining very good speakers I love them both the Klipsch RP 8000 F Mark II end the JBL a180.. both speakers are party monsters make sure you get the room because you're going to need it these speakers in small rooms are just too much.. Boosie speakers need room to breathe😊 so it might be suggested that for either of these two speakers you'll need a room that is at least 14 by 16 was at least 10 ft ceilings
Just got a r41m + r820f + r34c system. Wondering if I made a huge mistake after watching this review😅. The comparable tower speakers in this review are much more expensive than I got the 820Fs for though. And this will be paired with a sub and an rz50 with Dirac, I’m hoping it won’t be as bad as the review is making it out to be.
I have the 820 Fs about the same speakers. They have no insulation on the inside of these things. I fixed the boominess with car audio material then made my own crossovers and it made a huge difference. Also baffling the port tightens up the bass.
Hey Andrew and Kristi, I think folks have asked for this before, but could we get a video on cable management? Your rooms have always looked super clean so I would love techniques for making a clean looking room
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Review for the new 8000F Mark II
The Amazon link links to stand-mount speaker stands?!
@@CheekyFest I believe you're looking in the wrong place. The stands featured with the smaller Klipsch speakers are these and found under "Testing" section more near the top of the description.
SPEAKERS STANDS - CABLES
Stands: bit.ly/3xsoe9M, bit.ly/2VOs7p3
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@@KristiWright the links are in the wrong places then.
@@CheekyFest They're not but 👍.
I took advantage of the sale on the R-50M's for $299, i picked them up today and I am amazed, how they sound crossed over with a sub, ports plugged, So now i have my Kg5.2's that i have replaced the drivers on, my Black F-300's, (Andrew rolls eyes) bought Discounted, with matching rears and center channel, I love all my Klipsch speakers. I spend all my free time listening to music.
Thanks for the unfiltered review. Can’t wait for an RP-8000f ii video!
When keepin’ it real, goes…right!
Coming from a thrilled La Scala owner. Nice work on this one, and all of your reviews.
I have heard the R-800F in a stereo music system and thought they sounded excellent. To me they have a very lively musical sound with a rough edge on them suitable for rock music.
They are and the should buy four and Flip & Stack with new amp.
any harsh/bright representation in high frequencies?
Thats the problem. He listens to Taylor Swift 😂
I'm a long time fan of Klipsch as I own quite a few vintage units, but its very refreshing that you both were kind yet honest with your assessment. Keep up the great work!
I own a pair of the R-820Fs and have been very pleased with them.
I primarily drive them with a Reisong A10 12w tube amp. I occasionally use my integrated Pioneer VSX-LX303 or my Kenwood KA-2500 (thank you, it's really great!) but they pale in comparison to the performance of the Reisong.
When I first bought them, I toed them in to my listening position and was super pleased with their sound. They are positioned two feet from the back and side walls.
Some 18 months later with no changes, someone recommended that I aim them straight down my room because, I was told, it will open the soundstage. I was skeptical but made the change. Night and day difference!
I immediately began to experience a breadth, width, and depth I hadn't previously heard. Somehow there was sound behind me!
The audio experience was like nothing I'd ever enjoyed at any time in my life. I can only imagine what is possible with better gear!
Anyway, it sounds like the R-800Fs are inferior to the R-820Fs, which is really too bad for a next gen speaker.
I bought my 820s new for $1,000 for the pair and to this day am pleased with my purchase. They can be found for half that price now without too much effort. If you ever get a chance to hear or even buy the 820s, do it. I think you'll hear something from them that sounds like it's absolutely missing from the 800s.
Cheers!
John
Thanks for sharing your experience! For anyone looking, I've linked to the original 820F in the description.
What do you mean with aiming them down to your room? Thanks!
@lpromer4796 Sorry I wasn't more clear. My listening room is a rectangle with my listening positron roughly in the middle, both left to right and forward and back.
I previously had the speakers toed-in to my center listening position roughly 11 feet from the speakers.
I have since aimed the speakers straight down the room so they're parallel to the walls and the shape of the room.
So, they are not longer aimed at my center listening position, which opened up the sound stage in my room in a way I didn't think possible if they were aimed any direction other than at me in my center listening position.
Thanks!
@@Hi-FiBBQ thanks for the clarification! I’m thinking on getting a pair for my new place
A great and honest review. I like your constructive critiques. I'm super curious about the "stealth mode" speakers you have mentioned on your previous live session. I bet it was about bowers and wilkins. And I'm waiting for them. All of them (:
Hey guys! Just wanted to say I’m a huge fan, and I’ve been watching your videos for just over a month now. I recently got my first speaker setup in the Heco Aurora 700 and the Cambridge Audio AXR100 per your videos. You guys have been a huge help in trying to navigate this seemingly endless and often overwhelming hobby. Thanks a million!
I appreciate the constructive/honest review! I got my pair of 820s for half off ($299ea) in Nov 2021. The rest of the comments are correct, sales are pretty common for this line. After positioning them just right, (and pairing them with my older Klipsch KG2s) I was very pleased - My receiver also supports front A and B speakers so I think that with everything set up it sounds pretty good! I was curious and knocked on mine during the segment about the space in the cabinet, and I completely understand. Haha
Thanks for the review. I have the 8000 f and I am very happy with them. Thumbs up for you Two .
Love when you keep it real, not everything out there is good and you communicate that
While researching a new set of speakers I found your channel incredibly helpful & informative.
This video in particular helped me dodge a bullet; thank you. I ended up buying a pair of RP-6000F II speakers. While not mega high-end, they are excellent for the price point.
Again, thank you for awesome content and reviews. I respect you comments hugely, and feel you do a great job reviewing what can be high subjective experience-based products.
A though for a video: I’d love to hear your opinions on the effect of bi-amping speakers for those of us with a couple of extra amp channels to play with.
I've been saying for awhile now to avoid the reference line and only look at reference premiere. For newer models. Klipsch has done a marketing move that in my opinion was not in favor of consumer's. They killed the synergy line and made it the reference line. And the old reference is now reference premiere. While this would be acceptable as a starting point considering the used market it makes things highly confusing as to which models are worth your attention and which are not. I personally fell for this when purchasing a new set of towers but returned them after only 30 min of listening and purchased the rp-280f which are very similar to the rp8000f. Great review!
I have heard the F800 series and though all of them were very good. They are not some refined speaker for listen to some fine operatic singing but they are more than capable of dealing with Rock, dance, hip hop and other genres.
As ever, a fantastic, honest review, made with integrity and care. Every week I look forward to seeing your videos! 😁😁
Ps enjoy your break - well deserved!!
🙋♀Good morning! Apologies for being a few minutes late today. Sleep once again, evades me! Hope you all are having a good weekend. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts after you watch the video!
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I thought you were super cute when you said "intelligibility" trying to make it as intelligible as humanly possible. 😁😎
Dang, those videos have got to be hard to do. Knowing how much you love Klipsch. Everyone misses once in a while. Have a great vacation see you in a couple weeks.
We'll be back next Sunday (no Thursday video) but thank you and have a great week yourself!
You, and only you, got me hooked with the 8000f.
I bought them, and truly, I will never change them.
Best overall speakers I have ever own.
So upgrade to theese are a no go for me.
I used to have R-820F, which are predecessors to R-800F, and all you said here is applicable to R-820Fs as well. I could not live with them and I sold them after a less than a year of ownership. Muddy bass, tweeters piercing my ears, total lack of midrange, cabinet resonance, narrow soundstage.... That makes me think that Klipsch just changed the looks a bit, but essentially those are the same speakers. I tried 2 different amplifiers (Rotel and Marantz), and I could not make them sound any good. But I must admit that they sounded very differently with different amps, but still sound was lacking for me. Speaker positioning did not make a difference either. To be honest, I am happy I got rid of them. Sorry Klipsch.
try Dali Oberon 7, much much better speakers in all aspects! Klipsch design is perfect but sound is poor. It can be good only for metal music.
I own a pair of r-820 I’ve been pleased with them in my small listening room. My vintage Cerwin Vega AT-15 speakers over power them, lol I complimented the Klipsch’s with a pair of r-100 subwoofers.
They are excellent for more popular sounding music such as rock music. I cannot say what they sound like in a home theater though.
@@bighands69 I don’t use them in a home theater. They’re used on my Mc Intosh system.
Great review as always. According to their respective spec sheets, the Klipsch R800F is 43 x10.9 x 17.5 inches. While the JBL the Stage a190 is 42.1 x 10.2 x 14.6. So the Klipsch is actually larger than the JBLs even if they don't seem as massive.
I stand corrected! I will say visually the JBL appear larger (to me) and even side by side I thought they were bigger. I appreciate the info!! Also, Kristi is smiling ear to ear knowing she was right ;).
I haven't heard those particular KLIPSCH Tower Speakers. But, you brought up an interesting point. The boominess problem with towers - in general - is something that I noticed from time to time. I think lots of it has to do with room interaction as opposed to cabinet resonance exclusively. What I found from time to time is that the best place for 'sound staging' is not the best place for bass - or vica versa. Going with a stand mounted/bookshelf speaker along with a subwoofer seems to mitigate the room problem to some extent. You can place the main speakers where they give the best music or movie sound. And, you can place the subwoofer in the room where it gives whatever kind of bass that you like. Also, I discovered that even towers need a subwoofer anyways in many cases.
I bid on a pair of Q 3050s from an estate sale based on your previous review. I won them and I was really blown away. As a die hard Klipsch fan (the rest of my gear is Klipsch) the Qs have become my favorite.
Q knows how to make a speaker if I do say so myself.
The microphones you guys are using are incredible!
Thank you!
Thanks for the no nonsense and honest review.
Always! Thanks for watching.
@@Pete.across.the.street Is honesty only conveyed through a negative review?
@@Pete.across.the.street No, I don't think it's an honest review just because it's a negative review, Andrew has gave positive reviews on other Klipsch speakers, so obviously he has got nothing against the company, so why didn't he give a rave review on this particular model? Because I'm sure that everything he said was everything he heard.
I have a pair of RP8000f speakers. At first I was disappointed with them - bass heavy and a bit veiled … but, after a couple of months of daily use, they have settled in nicely and are punching well above their price point (keep ‘em away from the wall). Maybe the 800f will improve with time, but from your review, I’d say that’d be a pretty big “maybe”.
nah it just you used to the sound lol
Unexpected but it’s good to hear all the information on why they didn’t work for you. The sibilance would drive me spare on it’s own.
I think it is great that you give your true opinion and not giving a false good review
We NEVER give false positives or negatives.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews And I appreciate that!!
I just recently purchased the Klipsch R-800F floorstanders and I really like them. In the past I had Klipsch Synergy F3 floorstanders. I also recently purchased a Yamaha Aventage Rx-A2a A/V receiver. I have a Klipsch 7.1 Surround Sound system. My new subwoofer is the Klipsch R-80SWi
I absolutely love my RP-8000's. I imagine these sound very similar. They are very controlled, so I'm not sure if that's because of my receiver or what, but they sound great.
Interesting. Was not expecting that. I’ve never heard them before. Always really compelling reviews on here. Thank you.
Thanks, Harry!
Appreciate the honesty!. Thanks.
Excellent review and info !! Fine comments here too. Speaker drivers are so complex - often the cone materials alone account for tone and color, the frame basket in resonance and dynamics, and electro magnetics can effect articulation with gaps in linearity. I once compared several similar 12" drivers in side by side test unmounted in open baffle form for tone and color. What a surprise that test was.
I actually have some experience with the older R-820f. I purchased an open box pair for my father on a deal. I actually thought they sounded pretty good for the price. I agree the bass is a bit coloured, and yes the mids are a bit scooped out, but on my living room integrated (NAD C316) they sounded really good. I will say that they are VERY Dependant on the amplifier though. Once we hooked them up to my dad's old Pioneer VSX-9500s, it was AWFUL. He later purchased a brand new NAD recieved, and we're back in business.
Spot on about being amp dependant.
I love my RF 820f I've had them for 4 years, I run them on a 2 channel base X Amp and they're just right, however they sound much better on my Crown amplifier...I switch them around occasionally... I'm going to use them for rears and get the Polk R 700 for my next tower..
ICYMI - there is a mini review of the NEW R-50M speakers in this video. ☺️
Glad I went with the Polk Audio xt70 they sound amazing. I did the sound test in best buy with the Klipsch and they sounded muffled. They did look amazing the sound wad horrendous to me though.
I currently have 2 front xt70, 2 xt90, 2 xt20 for rear and xt35 for center. No subwoofer is needed. I paired them with a Denon reciever and put them on surround and man I love it. ❤️
You guys are the best, thanks for the honest review
Thanks for watching!
Klipsch watching this review... 👁👄👁
Low end klipsch is awesome for certain types of listeners, but not many. Love the honesty and measured review!!
Thank you Andrew! - and THANK YOU KRISTI ('Ahahaha - are you sure about that? ah boy' - Perfect)! In simple words - this review shows how great you are at your jobs. You are able to convey truth about products to the point.
Beautiful speaker. Too bad it disappoints. I really appreciate the new design language of Klipsch, but not enough to upgrade.
You should review JBL Studio 590/580 speakers. These go on sale for $800 / $600 per pair, free shipping, no tax.
As referenced in this review (briefly) the original RP-8000F is selling for $500 a speaker right now with the new version having come out. At this price, the RP-8000F is a GREAT value. I love mine.
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@@reygenabraham7564 even better :)
There is a very good reason why you are one the most popular Hifi reviewers and now I know why - your integrity and willingness to review products good and bad are very welcomed!!
Thank you for the honest review. I really enjoy the work you both do on your channel. Still loving my Emotiva XPA HC-1 Monos!
Wow. The big K might be a bit miffed, but you pointed out how to rectify and other Big K options. Good job - Happy Vacation
You're hair is looking fantastic brother!
*not a hair transplant* ©
Thanks!
Yea I agree looking at it killer looks shame the sound does not match what we see thx guys ..
I owned and loved the mid nineties Klipsch Epic cf-3 and the Kg 5.5. They benefited from adding Rockwool insulation and I also added wooden internal horizontal bracing. Striking deep bass. I also damped the horns with a rubberized wrap on. Those plastic horns became well tempered and concise. Which were using crispy Crites custom tweeters. Resonance be gone! Not seeking out any newer Klipsch. Primary now are Martin Logan’s Esl x. Yes I’ve seen your reviews. Thanks for great content! 👍🏽
I'be been using KG 5.5s and a KV-3 with Crites tweeters for years. I just replaced my KV-3 with an RP-450C and I gotta say I'm not as blown away by it that I thought I'd be. I was going to replace the 5.5s but now I'm second guessing myself. One woofer on my right side is on its way out and will pop in 2ch mode, maybe I'll just repair the KGs
I actually believe Klipsch is saturating the market with coming out with new speakers. How much really has their new line improved over their older ones? Not enough in my opinion to go out and upgraded. I have the RF-7 ll’s , have had them for eight years and not upgrading until these stop working. And if I do upgrade, I’m definitely want to venture out and try another brand. Thanks for your honest and straightforward reviews. Great work here!
👍 Yeah what's the point to buy new speakers every few years
great job. I know how hard it can be to give a critical review when a manufacturer is very generously providing a sample. I think you did well recommending some better products from klipsch.
I just commented on a clip two years ago....yup, I'm a winner.
Great job with the reviews!
What people forget is that with the surface area of all of the speaker panels, the panels don't have to vibrate very much (not much movement) to be putting out as much sound,or more, as the drivers themselves.
Great job, thanks for the heads up :) have fun on vacation!
Thanks! 😃
I have been testing the R-50c and am surprised at how well it does given the price, yes I’m using an Anthem receiver but still it’s a great looking speaker an while it’s not perfect it does more than enough to make most people happy and there is a lot to be said for horns in cinema. So much so I’m going to challenge and get the 600f and R-50m in, and Andrew I have not experienced the same as you with the tweeter.
I got the 6000f ii for $450 Ives tested both the 8000f ii and 6000f ii and belive it or not the 6000f ii hits slightly harder it didn't drop off as fast as the 8s and the mid range was better probably because 6inchs are better for mids anyways
Honestly Klipsh have, to me, been spitty. That's me though.
Good reiw guys
Thanks Jack! Appreciate you tuning in!
Could not agree more Jack. 80% of Klipsch owners I ask, “what other speakers have you auditioned to compare them to?”
Every single time, “nothing - someone told me they were the best speakers.” Says it all, but props to Klipsch to somehow achieving that reputation. 🤷🏼♂️
Loved watching the review, -surprised at the outcome. Hopefully someone at klipsch will pick up on this and do something about the resonance. Ouch!
Thanks for the link's to the better stuff.
Always! Kristi has your back.
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I mean... I totally understand if you don't want acoustic treatment in ur room, but after I put up some cheap polyester panels on their first reflection points, my r-610f's improved greatly in their detail and sweet airiness, even though they already had a ton of clarity. And what is up with people wanting good deep bass from a speaker when whatever bass they have below 60-80Hz is NOTHING compared to crossing them over to subwoofers? Assuming the sub isn't terrible of course.
Im hooked to your videos. I am always looking forward to new vids
Glad you like them!
I saw a PS5 in there…didn’t imagine the both of you are gamers…thanks for another review!
We play the occasional game. The hardcore gamer is Andrew's brother m.ruclips.net/user/JoystickGamer_
I bought My first new pair of towers ever this year and I went with the RF 82 Mk IIs. Im very happy with them :)
I saw this coming. Klipsch has been practically given their older speakers away, many fifty, sixty, and seventy percent off.
That happens any time a new speaker comes out. They gotta get rid of stock. The likelihood is that sales of the new model suffer until that older model is no longer available.
I’m powering these with Marantz cinema 50, adjusted internal eq to my ears, I’m using Bose passive cubes for a center removed from a Bose system. Robinson, this could change your mind about Klipsch R800 f
Any chance you'll get a look at the RF-7 III series? Though they're both floor standing towers, I'm curious if they compare to the Forte IV?
Fortes and RF7 III have similar midbass punch and both are very detailed.
However the rf7s have a midrange dip that the Fortes don't.
I have a pair of RP-8000s and I was over the moon. So when my brother was looking for a pair of speakers I recommended Klipsch. His budget could only afford him a pair of R620-f. He really liked the sound as I am sure it was a significant upgrade from his previous experience. But to me it was really terrible and all the tinkering we did with settings could not save it in my opinion. He was happy and I wasn't going to take that from him. The sound quality between a RP and a Reference I think is very noticeable.
I will say that while the NEW Reference line appears to look A LOT like Reference Premiere, the differences in build quality are immediately apparent when evaluating both side by side and it is the build quality. Even though the RP line has been designed to a budget too, the added investment in the cabinet pays off!
Thanks for the shout out on the r-50m, picked up an open box on them from bestbuy for $180 and there aren't many reviews. Using them as my front channels with an atmos system with 2 subs. Feel like I made a good choice, time will tell. I will stuff the ports per your recommendation, thanks.
to be honest after spending some time staring at a Polk R700 recently, more than most men should look at the curves of a speaker, I can tell you the build quality difference between Polk R700 and this Klipsch R-800F is obvious.
Looking forward to seeing how the Klipsch Rp 8000r II compares to the Polk R700.
Which one should you buy?🤔
You are the best🙏
BR
Björn 🐻
Awesome review as usual. Please review the Stage 130 with the Aiyima A07 class D amp.
☝If you're not watching until the end, you're missing out!
Also, I gotta say....damn our room looks G O O D.
I absolutely LOVE my RP-4000F’s.
Thanks Andrew about the latest Klipsch review. If possible could you please review some our Finnish speaker maker Genelec product.
They've never approached us for a review but I would certainly welcome one!
So glad I bought the monitor audio silver 100’s a month ago
You bought a GREAT speaker IMHO.
I have had the old Monitor Audio Silver RS6 for about 10 years and I live them. I figure I will have to spend a fair bit to get a meaningful upgrade, when the time comes.
My dad bought the Silver 100 since he knew I was happy with MA and he’s very happy with them too.
Silver 200 would seem like a good alternative to the Klipsch R-800F for those wanting floorstanding. Similar price in my area.
I kind of lost interest in Klipsch Speakers when they re-branded their synergy line to be the reference By basically just changing their IMG woofers from silver to copper and then created reference Premier, what does that even mean? the reference is the reference. Next it’ll be the reference premier plus and the reference premiere pro. A few years ago someone I know who is a little less informed, Sold his five synergy speakers on craigslist and got himself some brand new reference series speakers thinking they were getting their top of the line home theater stuff because it would’ve been the year before and I didn’t have the heart to tell him, you just bought the same Speakers (pretty much.)
Also what TV do you have on the wall? It looked really good even through my phone.
It’s an LG. Linked in the description
Thanks for your review. I’m impressed that Klipsch speaker doesn’t measure well or doesn’t sound well (sometimes, both). As RUclipsrs are getting measurement equipment everyone can see that most of the times there is something wrong with their products. I have a pair of old reference RB51II and if I live at US where there is a plenty of free return stores, I would try a different speaker for me.
these are good. have you reviewed the Klipsch RF7iii?
While the JBL Stage series is newer as a low cost option, the older Studio 5 series gets way more love. They were designed by Greg Timbers, and when they're on sale they're crazy inexpensive. Would love if you could give those a review, particularly the Studio 580s. Pretty sure I'm gonna grab a pair when they go on sale next.
Hi I have the old 820Fs in a bi amp configuration with the 51Ms you have the best of both worlds and it sounds amazing in my opinion
Good to know my RP-280F's & RP280FA's are just fine, and in fact are still the best of the line showing you get what you pay for ($700 ea & $925 ea) as they do have dampener on the inside that works.
Another great, honest, review; love the casual yet upbeat nature of your disappointment with these. Hopefully this silences those who think you and Kristi are on Klipsch's payroll. PLEASE tell us you will do a review of RP8000F MkII ??
I'm sure we'll take a look at them at some point but at this time we have no immediate review scheduled.
Was considering these against the KLH Kendall but looks like the Kendall's will be the choice I go with.
Hello I would like to ask You what is the better choice for home theater and listening of music in the room which has 24 square meters? I’m thinking about HECO AURORA 1000 or Klipsch R-600f II? In the beginning I think about R-600f II or R-800f II but after Your review I started thinking about HECO AURORA 1000. What do You think about this? Thank You for Your ansver and have a nice day.
Sorry if it’s a little off topic but I’m trying to get informed opinion about the RP 5000F.
Unfortunately I just can’t find any good reviews about them.
Size wise they look to be the perfect fit to an average sized room but I might be wrong…Any thoughts?
Excellent and thorough review as always. Think I'll stick to my RF7s for now ;)
I’m moving to a new built that comes with pre wired in ceiling cutouts. 5 total, would you recommend a 5.1 all in ceiling set up, or a combination of floor and atmos ceiling speakers? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Damn it's a shame these big boys fell short. Oh well. Thanks for being blunt fully honest.
A great example of how a speaker measures is only part of the story. Well done. And once again, my hat's off to you for that front wall design. I'll be stealing it for our future retirement home.
We only got the response curve. Again he said that the noise from the box was very bad even on the measurements. Only some of the measurements is part of the story.
Thank you for your honesty! I would be curious for you to try the triangle BR03 / BR08 serie especially for home theater
I absolutely LOVE seeing the PS5 on your console.
Thank you Andrew and Kristi for the quick response. I just bought the 8000f 2’s and 150 sub that came with the deal . I’m leaning towards the Cambridge 100 amp to power but feel it may not be enough for the speakers. Would really appreciate your thoughts on that . The last system I had years ago was a Tfm 55x carver amp powering Cerwin Vega d7 speakers. Your reviews are definitely helpful full and realistic unlike other reviewers I have seen.
The AXR100 will be enough, though you may want to also take a peek at something like a Rotel, NAD or Audiolab to better handle the woofers.
Thank you so much for the advice, will also check out your recommendations.
I purchased three pair of the JBL a180 only because they were less than $120 a piece the time directly from JBL, and they were new in the box never used before not refurbished in any way.
For some it's all about bottom dollar price.. when it comes to obtaining very good speakers I love them both the Klipsch RP 8000 F Mark II end the JBL a180.. both speakers are party monsters make sure you get the room because you're going to need it these speakers in small rooms are just too much.. Boosie speakers need room to breathe😊 so it might be suggested that for either of these two speakers you'll need a room that is at least 14 by 16 was at least 10 ft ceilings
Just got a r41m + r820f + r34c system. Wondering if I made a huge mistake after watching this review😅. The comparable tower speakers in this review are much more expensive than I got the 820Fs for though. And this will be paired with a sub and an rz50 with Dirac, I’m hoping it won’t be as bad as the review is making it out to be.
I have the 820 Fs about the same speakers. They have no insulation on the inside of these things. I fixed the boominess with car audio material then made my own crossovers and it made a huge difference. Also baffling the port tightens up the bass.
How did you do all those things?
What if you got these as a gift? Do you recommend having them returned and something else bought? These are my first floorstanding speakers.
Thanks! What a detailed, honest review with great constructive alternative suggestions. The two of you really rock these reviews.
So glad you found it helpful, Ahmet. Thank you so much for supporting the channel!
So kind, Ahmet. Thank you!
@andrew can you please review RP8000F II as well
I think the simple choice is the JBL Studio 590's since every other week they are on sale for $399 a piece.
Hey Andrew and Kristi, I think folks have asked for this before, but could we get a video on cable management? Your rooms have always looked super clean so I would love techniques for making a clean looking room
These work wonders at hiding cables: amzn.to/3OMsxpH
You'll also find some CM tips here ruclips.net/video/_LDrQaIOz5Y/видео.html
@@KristiWright thanks for the links! I cannot believe I missed this video. Will check it out in a bit.
I’m looking at these sports Klipsch Reference R-625FA 5.0 looks like good brand