How to Dance Salsa Tumbao vs Numbers Salsa On2

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2014
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    How to Dance Salsa - In this video, we are explaining the difference between dancing salsa with numbers and dancing salsa with the sound of the conga (tumbas) - tumbao.
    This will be helpful if you want to dance salsa on2 and want to dance smooth.
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  • @tngodncr
    @tngodncr 5 лет назад +10

    This was the best explanation and demonstration of the Salsa "on 2" that I have seen on RUclips. The Tumbao beat that you were playing with your mouths helped so much too. Made everything crystal clear. Thanks for a great demo.

  • @FStepES
    @FStepES 7 лет назад +13

    Finally an explanation that tells how it really works! Thanks guys! From now on this is my go-to video for teaching beginners.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад +1

      Dan Aldridge thank you for your comment! We are happy that you are going to teach like this your beginner classes. Salsaludos from NYC

    • @doseofdesi926
      @doseofdesi926 5 лет назад

      I'm still confused. I need to see it with music

  • @JoJo-iv9bi
    @JoJo-iv9bi 8 лет назад +5

    I grew up hearing and feeling the beat not counting, so I really appreciate this type of explanation. Thank you guys! ♡ :)

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 лет назад

      +Jojo A Thank you so much for your comment! =) We are going to keep making videos like this. Thank you for the inspiration!

  • @jean-charlesgentilly1602
    @jean-charlesgentilly1602 5 лет назад +2

    Wow! Thanks guys..... Clear, concise, compelling and all with great humility... Marvellous!

  • @promisestarxd9487
    @promisestarxd9487 6 лет назад +15

    Wish you would have demonstrated the differences with the music

  • @morrisanderson3426
    @morrisanderson3426 5 лет назад +1

    I Like Your Methods of explanation on the movements body wise but also the musicality

  • @mmorales1612
    @mmorales1612 8 лет назад +4

    I've recently started to learn salsa dancing and I'm learning on2 but with numbers. But this tumbao explanation made it much easier to avoid the jerky stop/move movements that can happen counting numbers. Thank you for sharing.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад +1

      M Morales thank you for your comment! You can learn both ways, counting and with the sound of the tumbao just keep training your ear, it's the most important part since you are dancing to the sounds of the tumbao when you practice this way. Try to practice when you are social dancing. We have more videos with tips hope those help you as well to help you to learn on2. Salsaludos. Joel

  • @miguelvicentemarin4001
    @miguelvicentemarin4001 Год назад

    I love it, thank you very much for your wonderful teachings. God bless.

  • @capeman10
    @capeman10 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you Joel, I just subscribed, thanks for the help.

  • @jenny5800
    @jenny5800 Год назад

    ❤ Buenísimo. Muy fácil de entender, muchas gracias!

  • @ClarkeIllmatical
    @ClarkeIllmatical 8 лет назад +2

    Joel, I love your musicality videos. More teachers should do this... it helps them in the long run.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад

      Clarke Illmatical thank you so much for your comment, we are going to keep this movement of videos. Please stay tuned!
      Thank you. Joel

  • @yadielayala
    @yadielayala 8 лет назад +2

    Mind blown Joel!!!! Damn you lol I cant sleep now. I've been thinking about this all day

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад

      Omar Ayala haha, it's ok, little by little will become more natural and you are going to be able to apply it without thinking! Saludos

  • @LFXDancers
    @LFXDancers 10 лет назад +2

    I love this series Tip Tuesday can't wait for more. Great explanation guys I will share this with all the LFX Dancers :)

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад

      LFX Dancers than you for your comment, we are going to continue with the video series, stay tuned! Salsaludos to LFX

  • @AlexRGuitar
    @AlexRGuitar 9 лет назад +4

    Este video es el mejor que he visto!! Gracias!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 лет назад

      +AlexRGuitar Muchas gracias Alex! =)

  • @szililolabu
    @szililolabu 7 лет назад +2

    very good. with the "cun cun" conga beats and music and numbers.

  • @juliocoparrota
    @juliocoparrota 10 лет назад +6

    gracias, muy bien explicado!!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  10 лет назад

      Thank you Julian Fmotion =) Muchas gracias!

  • @mariateresafatimabellounie5216
    @mariateresafatimabellounie5216 10 лет назад +1

    muy bueno la música y el baile no solo mueve los sentido sino que realiza grandes bibramientos emocionales que es capas de transformare en el hilo conducto de los grandes sensazione

  • @marialauravarela4327
    @marialauravarela4327 4 года назад

    you are great! I'm from Argentina

  • @BosephusBigelsworth
    @BosephusBigelsworth 5 лет назад

    Excellent!

  • @joseluisdelacruz2183
    @joseluisdelacruz2183 2 года назад

    Thanks so much teachers ♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @enflujo
    @enflujo 10 лет назад +2

    Back to basics! This makes sense in the context of the music or in the context of songs that call "you" to dance this way. If you are lucky enough to dance with sometone who gets it then great.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад +2

      onBeat thank you for your comment, in part this is our goal, that we help people to dance more to the music than the numbers, dancing with Feeling is the best way to express on the dance floor. Let's Dance With Feeling! Thank you!Joel

    • @kmichalene
      @kmichalene 6 лет назад

      Excellent! Thanks!

  • @johnchiluiza2841
    @johnchiluiza2841 Год назад

    This was perfect example of dancing to the tumbao and adding the count.

  • @chewee2k
    @chewee2k 7 лет назад +1

    Great video!!! Thanks so much!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад

      chewee2k thank you for your comment!

  • @pickleMTV
    @pickleMTV 10 лет назад +1

    Great video! Saludos desde Texas!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 лет назад

      +pickleMTV Thank you! Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa
      Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!

  • @cursosdebaileenmexico6374
    @cursosdebaileenmexico6374 9 лет назад +2

    Thank you guys!!

  • @gianlucazucchiatti1355
    @gianlucazucchiatti1355 2 месяца назад

    Good Job..all done👍

  • @V21IC
    @V21IC 5 лет назад

    Muy bien!
    Pueden bajar los demás vídeos que nos confunden.
    The ' Pause' in the middle with the TumTum indicates a smoother tranfer of weight and allows the time to initiate a lot of other moves. Thus, the dance would not look like a '100 meters' sprint!
    I've also noticed that when they teach 1,2,3; 5,6,7 there isn't a real pause. Rather, it's just a 6-count redistributed in the space(time) of 8 beats!

  • @marcapparatus
    @marcapparatus 9 лет назад +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH. I've been learning salsa/mambo for a few years and have been trying my best to explain dancing to the tumbao to some friends. i will show them this video. please keep sharing the knowledge and love of salsa/mambo!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 лет назад

      +CoffeeMakerFilms Hello thank you for your comment, happy to hear that you like our video. Hope to see you in our Live Classes on Jan 30th 2016 - you can reserve your space at MySalsaOnline we will keeping sharing the love of Salsa/Mambo =)

  • @Salsa_Souls
    @Salsa_Souls 9 лет назад +3

    Well explained :-)

  • @barajasavalos
    @barajasavalos 9 лет назад +4

    Now I get it!!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 лет назад

      +Edith A Nice, good to hear that! =)

  • @WisdomChaser82
    @WisdomChaser82 7 лет назад +1

    SO NICE !!!!!

  • @normandcharette2794
    @normandcharette2794 5 лет назад +1

    Hi, just curious. Why does the male start with right foot back on 2 . Most videos I have seen start with the male stepping left foot forward on 2. Thanks

  • @aldoelektrika
    @aldoelektrika 4 года назад

    Or think of it like "quick quick slow" starting on the 2, right for Leads and Left for Follows

  • @lohiau
    @lohiau 2 года назад

    I love this explanation but without the music playing I can’t quite tell whether this is Eddie Torres Mambo Tipico 2 or Palladium 2. I’m thinking its more palladium than Torres. Both break on 2 but Torres style goes break (2) step (3) override (4) step (5) break (6) and in palladium style it goes break (2) step (3) step (4) pause (5) break (6). However watching how they start seems to say it’s more Torres style as they don’t start with the break. They start pre break on the cun cun. In the end it’s just a minor detail.

  • @melphiss
    @melphiss 4 года назад +1

    Isn't it the "Palladium" style?
    Around Europe I see dancers traveling on 4 and stepping on 1 or & (123 567 or &23 &67). The video is stepping on 4 instead (234 678).

  • @Jorgeeliecerh
    @Jorgeeliecerh 10 лет назад

    SAUCE LIKE YOU FOR TEACH

  • @tributahina1190
    @tributahina1190 8 лет назад +1

    Fsntastic!!!! It now makes "rational" sense lol Thank you :)

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 лет назад

      +tributahina Thank you for your comment! =)

  • @domenicopeluso3159
    @domenicopeluso3159 6 лет назад +4

    Great explanation. I like the fact that you will be on the center on 4&5 but so it means that you'll reach the the center on the first of the two tum-tum of the conga. What about reaching the center on the second tum-tum of the conga. How do you find this version compared to the other one? Thank you

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  • @wellblack1781
    @wellblack1781 7 лет назад

    Hello Guys! thank you for your videos, I´m also subscribed to your online lessons I really like your classes :). I have a question, I understand that the way you teach is also called the power2 when you step on "234 678". Why then for the shine you use the count 123 567 instead of keep counting "234 568". Thank you!

    • @mpalmieri23
      @mpalmieri23 7 лет назад

      Hello! Good question! We really don't step the "power 2" since we step on the "8 and 1" first. We do follow the break step on the slap of the conga also which is similar to the power 2. But when we do shines, depending on the shine, its just easier to count with numbers since we don't always land on the "cun-cun", it is sometimes in the air and we would land on the 2 or the 3 or kick on the 8. It varies. I hope that helps and makes sense!

    • @allthingsyari4732
      @allthingsyari4732 2 года назад

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  • @V21IC
    @V21IC 5 лет назад

    I'm in México City.
    I'm trying to learn salsa On1.
    Would it be sensible if I dance like this to the Congo?:
    Slap - on 1
    2,
    Tum-tum - 3, 4 &
    Slap - on 5
    6
    Tum-tum - 7, 8&
    The slap sound would be my move on beat 1, 5.
    The tum-tum, I'd be at 3, 4 &; 7, 8 &

  • @Rambo681
    @Rambo681 4 года назад +1

    Well, the steps are the same as salsa on1 just the counting is different.

  • @juliocoparrota
    @juliocoparrota 10 лет назад +1

    yo bailo en 1 salsa cubana y se me hace muy facil.pero trato de encontrar ese bit de conga y solo por ratos logro identificarlo, supongo que es practica y costumbre

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  10 лет назад +2

      Correcto, es cuestion de tiempo y practica. Tenemos que educar el oido para poder identificar los sonidos y tambien poder bailar al tiempo del instrumento. Cada vez iras mejorando tu habilidad para ademas de identificarlo podras mantenerlo por toda la cancion e interpretarla.

  • @claudiogiunchiglia9430
    @claudiogiunchiglia9430 7 лет назад +2

    thanks for the video! In my opinion it's better say that on1 we dance in quick quick slow, on2 we dance quick quick quick! this is that says Eddie Torres!

    • @V21IC
      @V21IC 5 лет назад +2

      No. I thought it was for On2, it's Slow, Quick-Quick, SLOW, Quick-Quick.
      On1, it's quick-quick-quick & quick-quick-quick!
      My experience

  • @miguelaan5856
    @miguelaan5856 7 лет назад +1

    algo agarre al mirar trato de entrnder por los movimientos pero q bueno estaria tambien se pueda explicar en español o castellano gracias Amigos

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад +1

      angelmiguel nuñezaraujo gracias por la nota, que bueno que agarraste algo, espero que los hagamos en español pronto. Tenemos otro canal puedes buscar nos en Clases De Salsa (punto) net pon el enlace así como se escucha.
      Saludos y gracias por tu comentario. Joel

    • @miguelaan5856
      @miguelaan5856 7 лет назад +1

      Salsa Lessons NYC me parece mentira la persona q sigo tanto mirando tus videos de clases y sociales me responda muchas gracias Joel

  • @ciroviviano
    @ciroviviano 6 лет назад

    Leads step back on 2 with right foot
    or Leads step 2 forward with left?

    • @ppowell25
      @ppowell25 5 лет назад

      Ciro Vi leads step back with right foot on 2. Step forward with left foot on 6.

  • @Eatsleepjustdance
    @Eatsleepjustdance 8 лет назад

    Sorry to be a pain but I leant to dance on 1 can you explain this on one

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 лет назад

      Justin Gayle thank you for your comment, yes we will make some videos on1 as well since more people like you are learning on1 and it can be musical as well. For on1 Dancers we will follow the cowbell, piano, etc...
      Please stay tuned for more videos.
      Thank you. Joel

  • @bmeistergeneral
    @bmeistergeneral 10 лет назад +1

    Is this not the power 2 style? When I hear On 2 New York style, I think ET2

    • @Aymenadhami
      @Aymenadhami 10 лет назад +1

      ET dances on the tumbao too

    • @reganxmas
      @reganxmas 8 лет назад

      +Bernard Morrison You are correct, Bernard. ET2 starts on the second open tone. So: ku KU, PA

    • @FlyingSalsero
      @FlyingSalsero 4 года назад +1

      Eddie Master is dancing on count 123 567, breaking on2 and 6. While contratiempo using 234 678

  • @ciroviviano
    @ciroviviano 6 лет назад

    I see leads step back on 2? Ladies forward on 2 left leg
    Slap its on two?

    • @V21IC
      @V21IC 5 лет назад

      Slap - on 2; on 6
      Tum-tum - on 4&5; 8&1

    • @mynameisray6174
      @mynameisray6174 4 года назад +1

      @@V21IC , I thought the Tum-Tum is only on the 4& and the 8& (with the "&" being the halve measure), not on the 4&5 and 8&1. I do agree with the slap being on the 2 and 6 though.

    • @V21IC
      @V21IC 4 года назад

      @@mynameisray6174 Question. What happens/what movement occurs on beats 5; & 1 for the lead?
      I think that may clear my confusion. Thanks.

  • @rayscher
    @rayscher 4 месяца назад

    This is contratiempo on 2, not NY on 2, NY on 2 these days return to neutral position on 1&5 instead of 4&8.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for your comment! We also can dance landing on 1&5 as well, I will do that if I was dancing a Charanga that hits more on those beats (1&5). But for me if the accent is on the conga, I will step on those sounds. It's about the musicality and the freedom of dancing to the sounds of the instruments. Just preference!

  • @alouimalambo2
    @alouimalambo2 7 лет назад

    This is mambo dancing

  • @delaflota7423
    @delaflota7423 5 лет назад

    Sorry, why do you say "transferring the weight"? I think you're doing that anyway with each step, aren't you?

  • @myreckshodge4741
    @myreckshodge4741 8 лет назад

    I seriously dont get it. I listen to this and its all good. I put a song on and I cant find these beats to save my life.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 лет назад +3

      +Myrecks Hodge Thank you for your comment, it's a process to train the ear and be able to listen and separate every instrument on each song. To start please try music from Tromboranga, they have good salsa music that is so clear to listen the tumbao Don't give up, like I said is a process and takes time, but with practice you will be able to do it!

    • @bobwright3438
      @bobwright3438 8 лет назад +3

      Hodge, you are not the only person with the same problem, Salsa is very complicated/syncopated music; it takes a lot of time and listening. I teach ballroom dancing and the Classic Mambo movement is hard to teach to break ON 2. The Above explanation was very "Good". I am always looking for pointers to make my instruction easier.

  • @carlostelevida
    @carlostelevida 4 года назад +2

    making traditional count look ugly on purpose is like telling the creator of the on2 Eddie Torres is a crazy guy, I can't see the real difference if you don't dance properly on2 with counting, as of 2019 nobody dance on tumbao so all your's students now are learning to dance with the count, what a joke.