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"Persistent delusion of zombification persists. Will continue to monitor."
Ha ha, I'm going to be cremated. Just in case zombism happens.😁 Also to speed up the deterioration process. If a fish eats me? I live on as a part of fishes..😂 My body too can't be used for, "parts". I have a genetic illness so my parts shouldn't be recycled.
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Brilliant comment!! 😂👍
I think it’s cotard syndrome
I read that in Steve's voice 😂😂😂
I have seen Cotard’s Syndrome
, aka “Walking Corpse Syndrome” once and only once in my 14-year healthcare career, and it was a patient in the ER where I was doing a nursing student rotation.
40-something woman. Widow. Came in malnourished and hypothermic, found by her neighbors laying in a hole she dug in her backyard. EMS said the hole wasn’t big enough to fit the entirety of her body, but it was certainly deep enough for most of it to be submerged. She spoke very, very little, but she was clearly very distressed with our medical interventions and kept saying that she needed to go back into the ground. No joke.
She actually managed to get her HR down to the 20s, had a core body temp of around 96, and i remember she was pale as chalk. Pretty sure her blood pressure was super low too although my memory escapes me on that one. It was wild. It’s truly amazing what the brain can do to the body when the brain “believes” something enough.
It was absolutely remarkable and terrifying. Idk what happened to her, she was shipped off to psych after she was warmed up and given medication to increase her HR.
I’m actually astonished to this day that I actually saw a patient with this condition because it’s honestly quite rare. Fascinating and disturbing.
That sounds really dangerous! I knew about Cotards but I wasn't aware it could actually be life threatening.
Poor thing :(
I've done some research on it and apparently for the patients that have it it's so stressful for them because they can't understand why no one will bury them and because of that they will go into great lengths to do it themselves causing injury or actual death. Women over the age of 50 tend to get it a little bit more than men. Strokes, Dementia, and Parkinson’s maybe related to it it's apparently a symptom of these things and it's not in the DSM 5 as a stand alone disease as far as i'm aware.
ever heard of a band named: mayhem?
the formar vocalist pelle ohlin aka 'dead' had something similar to walking corpse syndrome due to a near death experience as a kid but his voice was awesome
RIP dead
@@Kidsare23635 right you are!! She was definitely so agitated that we wouldn’t let her go back to her “hole”, aka grave. Just really astonishing to witness.
One of my favorite psych nurse notes - “Patient states he is dead. Vital signs suggest otherwise.”
That nurse had never heard of Cotard’s delusion?
@@ferretyluv Well, ER personnel aren't therapist's or psychologists. They can't diagnose or treat mental disorders. What they can do is take vitals and give referrals.
The paramedics wrote my notes like that but flipped 😂 "vital signs not found, but patient is clearly alive"
@@ferretyluv a psych nurse could have but even then not everyone will have the names of more esoteric delusions. I recently did a forensic evaluation on a guy who had Capgras delusions, btw.
@@SGC511 That’s so cool! Lucky!
Well, sir, if you are dead then you cannot be harmed by a night of peaceful rest. Please go to sleep.
Taking “I’ll sleep when I’m dead” literally!
And dead people don't argue.
His logic is flawless /s
For some reason, my brain got confused and read your comment as "his flogic is lawless" 😂
@@Peace-life93I need you to know that this is the first thing I've seen today that actually made me laugh out loud
You can’t fight delusions with logic or reason
Delusions will do that, this is known as Cotard's Delusion
Yup, can't generally argue people out of delusions like that.
theyre unable to accept it is a delusion
I wonder what makes people think they're dead in the first place 🤨
@@jekylljekyllhyde821It's normally associated with a traumatic event, prolonged physical illness leading to psychological breakdown, or drug induced. It's a type of psychosis but it's pretty uncommon.
@@jekylljekyllhyde821 Usually it’s a result of psychosis caused by mental illnesses like dementia, schizophrenia, schizoaffective, some other disorder with psychotic features, or ongoing substance abuse. Some people are aware & embarrassed of their delusions, some aren’t aware of them. There’s many different types of delusions, some people think they’re being stalked, some think they’re dead or a ghost, some think that they’re famous, some think that they’re a divine being, etc.
@@jekylljekyllhyde821mental illness or - their is some medical issue that causes delusions.
Cotard’s Syndrome. I spent so much time in the hospital with my young, terminally ill son and saw/learned a lot. There was a 18yr old who walked by a cemetery and then he was dead. He certainly looked like the walking dead, refusing to eat or sleep. Why it stood out to me, is what he said as he was pacing the halls of the Peds ER. ”The Metamorphosis has already started to set in.” The orderly tasked to follow him said “I think you mean Rigor Mortis”😏 Later, I asked one of our doctors about it and that’s what it’s called. Hopefully he got the treatment he needed got better.
Reminds me of Kafka's Metamorphosis, but instead of changing into a bug he was becoming a zombie lol. It's a disturbing story worth the read.
@@17h127kafka became a roach in metamorphosis not a zombie
@@thaloblue that's what I said. He changed into a bug in The Metamorphosis. Only this guy changed into a zombie.
I am so sorry.
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When my father was approaching the final months of terminal illness, he developed several delusions. The logic I tried to debunk them usually failed (his responses were frustrating and occasionally comical), and I persisted only when the delusions distressed him. Fortunately, as he continued to decline, his delusions became more benign and non-distressing to him.
While recently in the hospital doped up on oxytocin, my mom kept crying for her mom. Telling her that her mom had died a long time ago just made her more frantic, so I eventually just kept telling her that her mom had to run home to take care of something and would be back soon. Sometimes you just have to play along with the delusions
Yes I tried to get my stepmom back from her delusions too. Didn't work and she just got confused and agitated. 😢
That's a big thing with caring for those with delusions/memory problems. They aren't really living in the same reality as we are. But at the end of the day, it's important to remember that if the reality they live in is more comfortable for them, it's generally kindest not to force them to live in ours. If something is real to them, that's as real as it needs to be, and if it brings them comfort, then there's no reason to take that from them.
he was dead wron-
😂😂😂😂
I read your comment. Exited out of the comments section and proceeded to scroll. Two videos later, I understood what you said. I couldn't not come back to tell you 😂
Bro has his priorities straight 😂
I was security at our old hospital years ago. About 3am, we're killing time talking to triage staff and watching the waiting room. A middle-aged woman walks in and up to the desk. When asked who they could help her, her reply was, very seriously, "I woke up dead, so I needed to come in." I lost it and had to leave. 😂
For anyone wondering, this is called Cotard’s Syndrome / Walking Corpse Syndrome
Psych brought on by what?
@@JuliaJames-zx5xy (copy pasted from google) “The cause of Cotard's syndrome, a neuropsychiatric condition, is unknown, but certain conditions are likely to cause it, including dementia, encephalopathy, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, stroke, subdural bleeding, epilepsy, and migraine.”
There's some indication of it being connected to liver health (valacyclovir/acyclovir has been known-in VERY rare cases- to trigger it), but im not sure they really know much about it, since its a pretty rare syndrome. @JuliaJames-zx5xy
@@chosenone9025 Thank you. I did research on 1 (what I hope was a valid) site. They narrowed it down to 12 subjects. They made references more to brain scans, psychotherapy & medications towards antidepressants & antianxiety meds. I'm not recalling references to the liver. But that doesn't mean it's not somewhere in the research. Considering it's rarity, the complexity of our bodies & the chemicals going into & surrounding us, I wouldn't rule out anything affecting a hero organ people speak little about until it starts malfunctioning.
Thank you so much & I will go back to that research & maybe others. So glad you answered & Steven brought this little known health issue to people's attention. 🤝
I always think of the song Cotard's Solution by Will Wood when I see this syndrome lol
He's a little confused but he's got the spirit
Now if only we could convince him it's not the Holy Spirit
Definitely!
hi eridan
So to speak!
We had a patient once who believed she was dead, she was hysterical all weekend and was sent to a psyche facility for help. A few weeks later after her release she went into a swamp and took her own life... I think about her sometimes and hope she found peace...
I completely forgot that psych patients also use the ER. I just assumed theyd immediately get sent upstairs
NOPE. They don't even just go to the ER. I'm a tech (STNA) on a med surge floor, and we get psyche patients all the time.
Basically you can't have things like IV's, catheters or feeding tubes ontyhe psyche floor, they also can't take isolation patients. So if you have even just IV fluids or a cold you get sent to my floor. Which sucks because we do NOT have the staffing to watch them or anything to entertain them. On the psyche floor they have books and activities plus the staff to hang out w patients one on one. We just don't have that. So we basically end up either sitting them because otherwise we're just begging them not to pull out their IV and to leave the call light alone. Fun times.
Change that pfp
Nope, especially when the psych unit is full, we just stay in the ER. And sometimes they just send us home… I spent 15 hours waiting for a psych ward bed, and the woman in the room next to me was having a psychotic break.
... in germany the ambulance drive u to the psych Station...
@@misshoney-mustard...that's not the point, though.
“Patient states he is dead, vitals and bgl suggest otherwise”
some guy at a hospital I was at one time came in screaming that his daughter was sent to satan because she was listening to slipknot, then he refused to be admitted as a psych patient because he “needed to go find the halo of Jesus to cleanse [his daughter]’s soul”
that was a fun 30 minutes of waiting to see my aunt
Weirdly this is an actual medical condition where people believe they're dead
Very right! While rare, Cotard’s delusion is very real! It can manifest in psychiatric patients, but can also be triggered by conditions like multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, Parkinson’s, and stroke.
@@thewonderlandsystem6276 I haven't heard about MS and those other conditions bringing about Cotard's delusion, that's very interesting 🤔
@@thewonderlandsystem6276it must be very frustrating for them.
@@thewonderlandsystem6276 It also often occurs in schizophrenia, TBIs, or someone who had a near death experience.
The look at the end 🤣🤣🤣
He has walking corpse syndrome it means he thinks he is dead or never existed
Well, hello, disorder that's in my top 3 most confusing disorders.
Cotard’s delusion, Capgras delusion, and what’s the third?
@@ferretyluvFregoli delusion, which is both a similar delusion and keeps with a will wood theme if thats what you were going for
@@generallaro1269 Right, I forgot about that one! I’ve heard of it but never seen a case study for it.
subconsciously dreading the hospital bill and coming up with creative ways to positively reframe the situation
Had to attend A&E a year or two back, and like usual, I had to answer a bunch of questions at the desk. To "Have you been here before", I answered "Yeah, maybe 10 years ago, there was a problem with my kidneys". The lady taking my information rolled her eyes and said "Oh, yeah..?" in _that_ tone of voice. I said, "Oh, yeah, _what?!_ What did I say that was so strange?" She replied archly, "You say, you were here 10 years ago and someone _took_ your kidneys..." "No", I told her, "That is NOT what I said!"
They must get a lot of that sort of thing. Or having a patronizing and presumptuous manner must be part of the requirements for being an A&E receptionist. Bit of both, I suspect! It's frightening to think, though, how easily I might have found myself unknowingly waiting to see a shrink when in fact I needed intravenous antibiotics for sepsis; especially had it been 'back in the day', when they used to lock people away for the most trivial of sh1+, often for decades!
"Sir it doesn't count as dead if you're only dead on the inside"
Psychiatric 101: Don't argue with delusions
I was shocked someone admitted they were wrong... Then he just rephrased it... So he outsmarted me in that sense... Well played.
"I gotta go! I'm Dead!"
😂 this has to be the funniest line yet
YOU'RE ALWAYS CRACKING ME UP 🤣🤣🤣. THE STUFF Y'ALL NURSES GO THRU.....
Austin: “ If anyone is dead it’s me because I’m pretty sure that I’m in hell right now”
I'd have told him "Even if you are dead, you need rest."
As soon as he said he was wrong I knew where this was heading 😂
He has the logic of a MAGAt.😂😂
I love the "nice" patient nurse character...
I literally facepalmed 😂
I hope all my nurses are as patient as Austin.
Why did I seriously think that retort before he said it 😂😂😂 "I guess the dead can bleed!" 😂😂😂
They keep making you repeat your counter zombie statements until you think that you are crazy.
Cottard’s syndrome can be very complicated to handle
Looks like politician logic 🤔
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood....NOBODY!
"Hey, You made me bleed my own blood!" ~ The Simpsons~
*Nelson voice "Haha!"
A story out of hell, not ER 😂
Why does this sound like a conversation you'd have with a diabetic child lol.
Is this that ant that got covered in dead ant pheromones?
Plot twist. He sees dead people and the patient is in fact deceased 😅😅😂😂😂😂
Have fun in Old Sac this weekend. 5 sold out shows! Well done.
LMAO I've been in the hospital so many times, you'd think I would be triggered by your videos. I can't stop watching!
That's actually a specific mental health condition
"You can bring a horse to water but you cant make it drink"
"Psych consultation requested "
I drank some shroom tea and then spent 4 hours trying to get back to the moment we died so I could fix it.
I just diedddddd 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that was so good. I had a guy who came at 3 am at the ER saying he was Jesus . I brought him water and said he should turn it into wine so I can drink . I love psych 😂😂😂😂😂
That "Aha" was too cute 😅
Poor Austin, for an instant he thought he had won the bet
“I gotta go. I’m dead!” 😂😂😂😂
My grandfather ended up in the ER after a fall and was fighting with the doctor telling him he needed to call the funeral home to come pick him up. After about 20 minutes of arguing, the doctor relented and told him that he'd call.
My grandfather had survived 4 heart attacks and 2 strokes, but was insistent a simple fall was the death of him. He died a year later due to kidney failure
Austin’s face just gave the Windows shut down theme. 😂😂
The difference between neurotics and psychotics: Neurotics build castles in the sky; psychotics live in them. ❤❤❤
Your videos make me so glad my patients can’t talk.
I'm infinitely jealous. You must be in the ICU or OR
Vet?
@@NoxCattusyes, I’m an LVT. But the owners do talk.
Somebody give this guy and acting job! He's amazing!
I have a friend who went through a period of delusion where he thought he was dead. Delusions are a really scary thing, people dont understand how fucking terrifying they can be
"Dead people do bleed after all!' 😂
I’ve had this exact same convo trying to get someone up with PT 😂
Ah, I have fond memories of patients like this. If you have time to just sit and talk to them for a bit you find out lots of interesting things. I should have enough credit for a degree in philosophy based off of those conversations.
😅😅😅😅😅was not expecting the last statement
my mom is the head nurse on a psychiatric unit in a nursing home. some stories are really funny, but then you remember they are sick and it turns depressing 💀
A funny sketch, but that is a really devastating phycological condition. Cotard's syndrome is no joke, and is absolutely horrible for the suffering patient and their loved ones.
My mom's bowel ruptured and she had emergency surgery. She was septic, and for several days after waking up thought she was not breathing, and that she was dead. It was so scary for her.
Working in the geriatric ward be like
Me when I go to er with anxiety thinking it's a heart attack 😂
Yep. Ive had this conversation with a dementia patient.
Me: u wanna be dead for real? **summons ghost from next door**
The nurse be like: "do i need to make his wish come true?"
That is the most rational irrational man.
A O.K u win people are crazy 😂❤
You’re not dead yet. You still have bills.
Dead people don’t bleed but apparently they do push the call button incessantly.
My grandma had a slew of mental illnesses and disorders. In the middle of conversation she would stare right thru me and ask "Amber, am I dead?" and I wouldn't laugh or react I would think a little, and say "No grandma that would mean that I'm dead too!" Seemed to snap her out of it if not for a little while
The struggle not to facepalm in the face of persistent delusion is SO real
At least he’s able to be persuaded and change his mind when faced with facts that go against his set beliefs.
Life is strange..😂
"I gotta go, I'm dead"
Go where?
Poor Austin. Poor, poor Austin.
"Psych consult requested"
I love your vids! They never fail to make me laugh lol
Same
This one is precious!
Knew the ending would be this!😂
This is too good
😂❤How to get out of the Hospital 😮1- call the county court D.A. court system and the attorneys get u out of Hostage situation 😮
I just couldn't....😂
Yeah, logic doesn't make a dent in delusion.
Can confirm, you can't make this ish up. Patients are wild 😂
That’s a delusion. If someone is having a delusion, talking them out of it will not only not work but can cause more harm as they may not trust you. Better to work within their reality and keep them safe until the episode ends. I’m saying this as someone who’s experienced delusions before.
"Patient thinks he is *is* dead"
Was I the only one who saw that???
I had this happen to me. Thought i was dead for almost 2 years
I swear, that guy is me during the middle of a panic attack. 😑
Dead people don't talk ...
I had a dream about being dead but feeling alive after watching a movie that had people in it that did not know they were ghosts
😂 Did not see that coming !! Hilarious.😅
How're you gonna do dat???
~ doc: 🔫💥💥💥💥
I'm dead too sir