Oh yeah, be sure to check out the links in the description for in-depth videos on the SSJ multipliers alongside the artist/animator pages to support them! Next video will be pretty calc heavy, so be on the lookout for it this weekend! kthxbai
Chuck do a darkseid vs Thanos video that shit will definitely go crazy or another good option would be a powescale on the true power of hulk considering there are some people out there who believe hulk is only planet level
I have one question though so now that you gave the multiplier where would you put ssj 5 goku high multi galaxy + or universal or multi universal? And where would he stack up to dragon ball super goku
"Grade 4" is no more than somewhat higher than 50x, if at all. When Goku turned SSJ2 in front of Zamasu for the first time, Zamasu said Goku became "tens of times" stronger, or by another translation, "several dozen" times. If Goku's SSJ was 500x, and thus his SSJ2 1,000x base, it would be more accurate to say Goku became "hundreds," or "several hundred" or "a thousand" times stronger. Several hundred or a thousand times base is not "tens" or "dozens" of times. The most Grade 4 could possibly be would be somewhat more than 50x but not even 100x base, because then if Goku became 200x stronger than base, that's still multiple hundreds of times stronger. Say, as an example, if SSJ was 75x base and thus SSJ2 being 150x base, that *could* technically fall into "several tens"(15 sets of 10) or "several dozen"(12.5 sets of 12). Anything reaching up to or beyond SSJ2 being 200x base would warrant Zamasu(and thus the *writers* of the show) to say Goku's SSJ2 made him hundreds(plural) or several hundred or thousands of times stronger. You might want to say that Goku may have been suppressed when he transformed but no one noted Goku as having powered up after his initial transformation.
Wait your not tori, If you were you would say wait i designed ssj4 i can't remember and what's this ssj4.5 hmmm I guess toyo made these i best leave now.
@@joshualowe1821 Cumber is just strong and gets triggered by SSG. Rigor is something very different. Like an intelligent Broly with royal blood that trains.
Rigor was stronger than Omega as a Ssj4 not ssj5. Ssj5 was stated to be 13 on the god scale with Ssj4 Gogeta being slightly below or equal to Beerus 9 or 10 as Malik stated.
Roman Segreti not when shaggy goes ultra instinct then it would take people stronger than what they are in the games (including heros) just to be able to hit him
im replying to this comment, the problems is that they probably haven't seen the series like Seth who a few years ago couldn't scale Bleach because he didn't know about the series, but I agree I love the series and the are pretty strong.
um neo ate a bunch of stars before and ate a supernova from don slime, and everyone gets a lot stronger after that point. www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c381/5.html www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/4.html www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/5.html www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/6.html www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/7.html
New to channel, watched your Marvel in Tournament of Power. Enjoyed very much. You should do DC in tournament of power. Could include heroes like: Superman, Wonderwoman, Flash (Wally or Barry), Green Lantern(s), Doomsday, Despero, Sinestro, Mongul, Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Shazam, Black Adam, Dr. Fate, Captain Atom, Lex Luthor, Amazo, Reverse Flash/Zoom, Bizzaro, Solomon Grundy, Power Girl, Firestorm. I'd watch that video like hella fast
This is what I think the Multi’s are for the SS forms: Great Ape: x10 Ikari: x10 False SS: x35 SS (grade 1): x50 SS (grade 2): x150 SS (grade 3): x1,500 (to slow to matter) SS (grade 4): x500 SS2: x1,000 SS3: x4,000 Golden Great Ape: x40,000 SS4 (initial): x400,000 SS4 (FP): x1,000,000 SS4 (UFP): x5,000,000 SSG: x10,000,000 SS5: x15,000,000 SSB: x500,000,000 SSBE: x1,500,000,000 I know not everyone will agree to this, but this is my opinion and I have a right to it. So please, instead of just saying “your wrong” in the comments, give me a reason of why you think otherwise. That’s if you do think otherwise of course.
TheGamingGalaxy I respectfully disagree but I'm not saying your wrong but this is what I think the multipliers for the Sayia-Jin's forms are Oozaru : x10 Golden Oozaru : x500 - x10 (Oozaru) X x50 (Super Sayia-Jin) Ikari : x10 Super Sayia-Jin : x50 Super Sayia-Jin Grade 2 : x70 - +20 of x50 from Super Sayia-Jin Super Sayia-Jin Grade 3 : x700 - x10 of x70 from Super Sayia-Jin Grade 2 Super Sayia-Jin Grade 4 (refined Super Sayia-Jin) : x50 Super Sayia-Jin Grade 5 / 2 : x100 - x2 of x50 from Super Sayia-Jin 1 Super Sayia-Jin 3 : x400 - x4 of x100 from Super Sayia-Jin 2 Super Sayia-Jin 4 : x20,000 - x50 of x400 from Super Sayia-Jin 3 Ultra Full Power Super Sayia-Jin 4 : x40,000 - x2 of x20,000 from regular Super Sayia-Jin 4 Super Sayia-Jin God : 400,000 Divine Super Sayia-Jin (rename for Super Sayia-Jin Blue) : 20,000,000 - x50 of 400,000 from Super Sayia-Jin God Divine Super Sayia-Jin Evolution : 400,000,000 - x20 of 20,000,000 from Divine Super Sayia-Jin Full Power Super Sayia-Jin : x700,000,000 Super Sayia-Jin Berserk : x100 Super Sayia-Jin Rosé : x20,000,000
@@thewerewolfgod74 Nope, that was never officially stated We only have the multiplier for Unmastered SSJ and we know SSJ 2 is x 2 of Mastered SSJ and SSJ 3 is x4 of SSJ 2 In the manga it was stated SSJ grade 3 is 10 times stronger than Unmastered SSJ which would mean Mastered SSJ is either 500x (if we agree that Mastered SSJ is as strong as Grade 3 but without the slowness) Unmastered SSJ - 50x SSJ Grade 2 - 100x SSJ Grade 3 - 500x (Heavy drain and slowness) Mastered SSJ - 500x SSJ 2 - 1000X SSJ 3 - 4000x
Damn you could even power scale the other side stories characters of db af it will actually be lit and unreal will probably get jealous he likes doing these a lot but with you its actually interesting.
There's a guide that says that Super Baby 2 is his equivilent to Vegeta's SSJ3. That multiplier times the Oozaru (As he transformed into an Oozaru), you have the compined multiplier.
Ninir he actually says goku must have multiplied on top of his super saiyan 3... and if we watch closely.... the hairstyles of both great apes, that statement doesn’t add up
@@jovan.v7690toyotaro, the current illustrator and primary story writer for the DBS manga has his own DBAF manga with SS5, so it's possible that he makes it official at some point
My friend made a fan manga called Dragon Ball RS and ssj5 had 3 grades. 1st grade was a 2X boost to ssj4, 2nd grade was a 10X boost to grade one ssj5, and the final grade was a 1 million X boost onto that. You could get ssj5 after attaining mystic on top of ssj4, grade 2 was after extreme rage, and grade 3 after fusion with a dragon (from the dragon balls of course).
@@lamertofar8gaming443 I've seen ppl saying ss4 is like 4000x stronger than 3 and he got x10000 times stronger and his 'power' level is like 7 septillion and random bullshit, where in reality ssg can stomp ss4 with es
Xicor, the original Goku Black? Is there something I missed? Is that what people are calling him? Also, if I'm remembering correctly, Rigor said his base form was basically his SSJ4 form, but only as far as his power level. And he hasn't been able to actually transform into his SSJ4 state for a few years or something like that. Been a while since I've read that fan made manga. One of my favorites too. Anyway, great informative video once again, Chuck. Thanks.
You could ask mellavelli, he has his channel on RUclips and has been creating his series called "Dragon ball Absalon" which is similar to AF, there is the super saiyan 5 involved in some versions of that story. You could also ask "Prince Gas Vegeta", one of the creators of Dragon ball AF, he is the one responsible for creating the "Dragon ball budokai AF" mod for PS2, he has a RUclips channel called "PGVChannel", he also has a Facebook page, he also has his version of super saiyan 5, but his story takes place 700 years after GT, so I guess he is the most powerful version of all, imagine a Goku or Vegeta with that base state of 700 years , crazy, finally, he is creating a Dragon ball AF animated movie with the help of various animators and users, based on his version of AF. PD: I sincerely believe that for those stories it is already logical to think that they beat destroyer gods, they can even beat angels in some, because we are overlooking the experienced base states of Goku and company in those stories set in a future post GT, added to the immense multiplier of super saiyan 5 in that experienced base state.
There's a couple different versions of it by youngjijii, toyble, and many others. All are great but I'd recommend youngjijii's , you could also check out toyble's version but he actually got noticed by Akira and is working with him on the super manga so his dbaf is unfinished
chuck, what do you think on the theory that ssj4 gogeta is ssj5? for me it makes sense as all prior and after itterations of fusion (be it dance or potara) keep the same form(ssj,ssj3,blue etc.) with the only exception being our boi ssj4 gogeta with the crimson hair instead of black hair and diffrent coloured fur.
To make more sense at the Difference between all 4 Grades, not counting Grade 5 Super Saiyan as it's Super Saiyan 2, it goes like this, oh, and the Multiplier is base on what I think each Grade is, so don't worry about that. Grade 1 ×50 • -Stamina Grade 2 ×60 (×1.15) • -Stamina +Speed Grade 3 ×75 (×1.2) • -Stamina -Speed +Strength Grade 4 ×50 to ×400 (×8) • ++Speed ++Strength • No Stamina Lost • Finite Power Level Control Grade 4 is the Perfected, Mastered, and True Form of a Form. Meaning, in my point of View, Each Form has this 4 Grades as well. What I meant by -Stamina, is based off of the fact that, when Goku uses either Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3, his time limit lowers even faster the higher form they go to, while Perfected Super Saiyan, aka Super Saiyan Grade 4, has no Drawbacks to the point that they technically turn it into their New Base form, which sadly didn't. ... This is my own Multiplier and my own way of Naming Certain Forms. Mastered Perfected True ×8 Full Power ×10 Limit Breaker ×1k Ikari ×8 to ×80 Oozaru ×10 to ×80 Super Saiyan ×50 Super Saiyan 2 ×100 Super Saiyan 3 ×400 Super Oozaru ×500 Wrathful Saiyan (SSJ4) ×4K Wrathful Super Saiyan ×200k Saiyan God (Red) ×20k Super Saiyan God (Blue) ×1M Fun Fact: It stated that the Blue Hair Symbolizes the Lack of Truly being born or given the title of an Actual God and the Pink aka Roze Form of Goku Black is the Right Hair Color if either Goku or Vegeta was given the title of any True God. Like, if a Saiyan has the title and position of "God of Earth", "Kai", "Supreme Kai", "God of Destruction" and so on, if they ever go Beyond Red, they'll gain Pink Hair, rather then Blue.
I don't get where you get all this multiplier from. From official one, ssj = x50 of base form, ssj2 = x100, ssj3 = x400 but here, mssj = x500? mssj suppose to be mastered ssj and lower than ssj2. lol..
Gogito is actually not this strong Now, fusion multipliers are pretty tricky. It’s basically (fs1(fighter strength)+fs2)x fusion multiplier. I’d say the potara is stronger than the dance, and the research I’ve found concludes the following: Potara Earring=(fs1+fs2)x1,500 Fusion Dance=(fs1+fs2)x1,200 Now, going by these calculations, if Goku’s base power is one(it doesn’t change anything no matter what number I choose here) and Vegeta’s power is equal, then Vegito’s base is 3,000 and Gogeta’s base is 2,400, then Gogito’s power is (3,000+2,400)x1,200 (Gogito has 4 rings on his fighters outfit, implying fusion dance) or 6,480,000. Now, Gogito base is 6.48 million. Goku gets a power up times 80 million when powering up into super saiyan god. When Gogito powers up into Super Saiyan, he gets to a power level of 324 million. Now, when Goku powers up to Blue, he gets to 4 billion (50x80,000,000). Gogito powering up to SS3 is only 2.592 billion. Now, if he powers up to SSG, he’s now at a power level of 518.4 TRILLION. Pretty powerful, right? TUI Goku only has a measly power level of ~2 trillion compared to this. Now, the omni super saiyan has a power level of 1.44 septillion (at a lowball!) Gogito Royal Bluex20 KaioKen=15.552 quintillion Gogito PUI=523.26 quintillion Now, moment I’m sure you’ve been waiting for Gogito SSJ20k=400E+19,997 x 6,480,000 This number has so many zeros, that if I were to paste it here, it would be 4-7 times the size of what I’ve already written. To put that into perspective, Omni SS3 Goku= 11,520,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 11.52 septillion, or 1,152E+22 Gogito wins for sure, but against Omni Super Saiyan Goku, his only hope is SS20k.
Super Saiyan God is still more powerful than Super Saiyan 4, just by the feats at this point in time, Super Saiyan 5 could be closer in power to Super Saiyan God, but I still believe Super Saiyan God would stomp 4 and 5 everywhere.
I really liked the saiyan buster armor video, and makes me wonder what batman would do to take down a saiyan. What I mean by that is besides making armor would he train himself like the z fighters to at least but more of a combat advantage.
Here is what I believe the Multipliers should be Oozaru/Ikari:10x Kaioken:1.5-20x Super Sayian(Grade 1):50x Super Sayian(Grade 2):75x Super Sayian(Grade 3):750x Power 35x Speed Super Sayian(Grade 4):500x Overall Super Sayian 2:1’000x Super Sayian 3:4’000x Super Sayian 2(Amplified/Rage boost used by Vegeta and Trunks in super Manga):5’000x Golden Oozaru:50’000x Super Sayian 4(Initial):625’000x Super Sayian 4(Full Power):750’000x Super Sayian 4(Ultra Full Power):60’000’000x Super Sayian 4 (Ascended):120’000’000x Super Sayian 4(True Form):360’000’000x Super Sayian 5:5’400’000’000x Super Sayian God:2’000’000x Super Sayian Blue(Initial):10’000’000x Super Sayian Blue (Advanced):20’000’000x Super Sayian Blue (Complete):100’000’000x Super Sayian Blue (Kaioken):200’000’000-2’000’000’000x Ultra Instinct(Omen 1):5’000’000’000x Ultra Instinct(Omen 2): 10’000’000’000x Ultra Instinct(Omen 3): 1’000’000’000’000x Ultra Instinct(Mastered): 1’000’000’000’000’000x Ultra Ego:1’000’000’000’000’000x
So your not going to mention young jijji’s DBAf version of Super satins 5? I would think that you would because he’s literally the only artist I know that had finished his version of the form and story..malick studio’s to my knowledge has not even finished his take on DBAF or Ssj5, not to mention he’s even rebooted his concept as a whole. Young Jijjii has kept the transformation linear to the cannon material without including extra mystical concepts to the form. Just simply an evolved form of super sayian 4...
razor dragon he gives the highest multiplier at several million. well.... SSB ranges somewhere in the billions as a multiplyer, SethTheProgrammer did a video on it a ways back.
razor dragon actually on one of chuck's own videos, SSB is somewhere around 51 QUADRILLION x base. that's a difference similar to a grizzly bear vs Galactus.
Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 you are factually wrong. chuck's video is called ssj4 goku vs ssb goku (super vs gt) and seth's is called super saiyan blue vs super saiyan 4. Also, your feelings on the looks of the transformations does not change the fact that ssb as a transformation absolutely slaps 4 and 5 simultaneously.
Oh yeah, be sure to check out the links in the description for in-depth videos on the SSJ multipliers alongside the artist/animator pages to support them!
Next video will be pretty calc heavy, so be on the lookout for it this weekend! kthxbai
Chuck do a darkseid vs Thanos video that shit will definitely go crazy or another good option would be a powescale on the true power of hulk considering there are some people out there who believe hulk is only planet level
Can you attempt to power scale Xicor? I think that would be a really cool video.
I have one question though so now that you gave the multiplier where would you put ssj 5 goku high multi galaxy + or universal or multi universal? And where would he stack up to dragon ball super goku
Chuck can you compare ssj5 to dbs ssb goku/vegeta in each arc ?
"Grade 4" is no more than somewhat higher than 50x, if at all.
When Goku turned SSJ2 in front of Zamasu for the first time, Zamasu said Goku became "tens of times" stronger, or by another translation, "several dozen" times. If Goku's SSJ was 500x, and thus his SSJ2 1,000x base, it would be more accurate to say Goku became "hundreds," or "several hundred" or "a thousand" times stronger. Several hundred or a thousand times base is not "tens" or "dozens" of times.
The most Grade 4 could possibly be would be somewhat more than 50x but not even 100x base, because then if Goku became 200x stronger than base, that's still multiple hundreds of times stronger. Say, as an example, if SSJ was 75x base and thus SSJ2 being 150x base, that *could* technically fall into "several tens"(15 sets of 10) or "several dozen"(12.5 sets of 12). Anything reaching up to or beyond SSJ2 being 200x base would warrant Zamasu(and thus the *writers* of the show) to say Goku's SSJ2 made him hundreds(plural) or several hundred or thousands of times stronger.
You might want to say that Goku may have been suppressed when he transformed but no one noted Goku as having powered up after his initial transformation.
Maybe I will make Super Saiyan 4 and 5 canon some day. Would you guys want that?
Yes dad
Wait your not tori,
If you were you would say wait i designed ssj4 i can't remember and what's this ssj4.5
hmmm I guess toyo made these i best leave now.
make el hermano canon
Better than that lame ass blue shit
Nah get those garbage forms out of here and give us MUI shaggy instead 😤
Chuck is intensely underrated. You need more subscribers and rightful recognition, keep up the outstanding work and content!
Good morning Chuck!
Oh wow. Even you watch Chuck?
@@daniyal3630 she watches him for longer than her channel was created.
Hey can you put ariche ultra sonic on the Teir list please.
No cares for your stinky good morning from ur cancerous mouth
The legendary tier lister is here
This turned out to be a damn good video Chuck! I definitely enjoyed!
Tbh that's one of the best intros iv seen lol
Why was Vegeta’s brother trying to kill him?
Because fan-fiction that’s why.
Because Vegeta killed his mother.
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets So they're only half brothers?
@@sean.a.s7234 yes.
@@icyhot1189
He was not
@@icyhot1189 yes. If you take a good look, I can still actually see he trying to give his brother a chance.
Can you please have look and possibly debunk my Explaining the Tier System video? Thanks mate!
Why would you WANT someone to debunk your own video
"Chuck please only 4% of my subscribers watch my videos pls help"
Whhat? I thought you tiering system was meant to be a joke...?
@@Archangel_Be hahahahaha
Guys did any one watched her latest " top 10 strongest saiyan"?
OMG he just put lssj broly way above mui goku.
Rigor the original Kanba and Vegeta's version of Raditz
He came before the Tarble special?
Aytgh Cumber was basically based off Rigor.
@@joshualowe1821
Cumber is just strong and gets triggered by SSG.
Rigor is something very different. Like an intelligent Broly with royal blood that trains.
Machiyuu-gaming the upcoming Dragon Ball Super Broly movie will make Broly intelligent!
@@joshualowe1821
Did I stutter?
add an N before rigor's name and take out the R...….. OH NO
Just A Robot 2 oh........OOOOOOOH 😯 shit
Thanks for the idea
that was pretty stupid
@David Ortiz he means take out the R before igor and replace it with the N, Nigor
Pronounced Nye-gore ?
Rigor was stronger than Omega as a Ssj4 not ssj5. Ssj5 was stated to be 13 on the god scale with Ssj4 Gogeta being slightly below or equal to Beerus 9 or 10 as Malik stated.
Abhinav Chandra not sure what your referring too but Gogeta got smacked by Rigor ssj5
@@abhinavchandra4881 gogeta didnt over power him in ssj5 rigor lost to much stamina and went back to base thats when gogeta ended it
Hamza Adrees Hamza.......
IF Super Saiyan FOUR Rigor is stronger than Omega, then Super Saiyan *FIVE* is *DEFINITELY* stronger than Rigor.😒
Joshua Lowe I mean how it was said in the new age manga. Of course that’s common sense.
But ssj4 Gogeta technically won
I thought this video got deleted.
good thing it’s back though I love this Vid.
But can he beat 1% Power Shaggy?
no
No
1% Shaggy Base solos all of Dragon Ball fiction real and fake.
@@theoneandonly8403 nah i still think yamcha popo and farmer with a shotgun could beat him
Roman Segreti not when shaggy goes ultra instinct then it would take people stronger than what they are in the games (including heros) just to be able to hit him
Powerscale toriko characters
im replying to this comment, the problems is that they probably haven't seen the series like Seth who a few years ago couldn't scale Bleach because he didn't know about the series, but I agree I love the series and the are pretty strong.
They are at least Dwarf star level,done.
um neo ate a bunch of stars before and ate a supernova from don slime, and everyone gets a lot stronger after that point.
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im replying to this comment yes please
stop Interesting maybe I should watch.
Might be my Favorite Video you have ever done dude i love this !
Thanks for making this video! I really needed help with the confusion loophole that is Dragon Ball multiplier system
umm the original goku black goes to turtles thank you
Turles? Must have been autocorrect, my lord.
Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 TURTLES IS MORE POWER FULL THAN SUPER SAYA DJINN FIFRTY TRY BAJILLION!!!
@@SoraDonaldGoofy99 old af (see what i did there?) but Turles isn't incorrect. You can also say "Bejita" instead of Vegeta.
SS5 is pretty crazy OP. And God form is supposed to be even higher! Yikes...
Nah SS5 def gotta be stronger than SSG
Itd be cool to see a ssj5 make it to the cannon series
New to channel, watched your Marvel in Tournament of Power. Enjoyed very much. You should do DC in tournament of power. Could include heroes like: Superman, Wonderwoman, Flash (Wally or Barry), Green Lantern(s), Doomsday, Despero, Sinestro, Mongul, Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Shazam, Black Adam, Dr. Fate, Captain Atom, Lex Luthor, Amazo, Reverse Flash/Zoom, Bizzaro, Solomon Grundy, Power Girl, Firestorm. I'd watch that video like hella fast
We need a video about MUI shaggy
Too strong
MUI Shaggy one shot Zeno...he can destroy multiverse by using his Zoinks cannon...
Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 no bitch.
Zoinks cannon will wreck you.
Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 nah B WE ARE GONNA RUN WITH THESE MEMES TILL DRAGON BALL Z IS GONE
Hey Chuck, Could you do a hypothetical ssj5 goku vs ssj god goku with and without god essence
This is what I think the Multi’s are for the SS forms:
Great Ape: x10
Ikari: x10
False SS: x35
SS (grade 1): x50
SS (grade 2): x150
SS (grade 3): x1,500 (to slow to matter)
SS (grade 4): x500
SS2: x1,000
SS3: x4,000
Golden Great Ape: x40,000
SS4 (initial): x400,000
SS4 (FP): x1,000,000
SS4 (UFP): x5,000,000
SSG: x10,000,000
SS5: x15,000,000
SSB: x500,000,000
SSBE: x1,500,000,000
I know not everyone will agree to this, but this is my opinion and I have a right to it. So please, instead of just saying “your wrong” in the comments, give me a reason of why you think otherwise. That’s if you do think otherwise of course.
TheGamingGalaxy
I respectfully disagree but I'm not saying your wrong but this is what I think the multipliers for the Sayia-Jin's forms are
Oozaru : x10
Golden Oozaru : x500 - x10 (Oozaru) X x50 (Super Sayia-Jin)
Ikari : x10
Super Sayia-Jin : x50
Super Sayia-Jin Grade 2 : x70 - +20 of x50 from Super Sayia-Jin
Super Sayia-Jin Grade 3 : x700 - x10 of x70 from Super Sayia-Jin Grade 2
Super Sayia-Jin Grade 4 (refined Super Sayia-Jin) : x50
Super Sayia-Jin Grade 5 / 2 : x100 - x2 of x50 from Super Sayia-Jin 1
Super Sayia-Jin 3 : x400 - x4 of x100 from Super Sayia-Jin 2
Super Sayia-Jin 4 : x20,000 - x50 of x400 from Super Sayia-Jin 3
Ultra Full Power Super Sayia-Jin 4 : x40,000 - x2 of x20,000 from regular Super Sayia-Jin 4
Super Sayia-Jin God : 400,000
Divine Super Sayia-Jin (rename for Super Sayia-Jin Blue) : 20,000,000 - x50 of 400,000 from Super Sayia-Jin God
Divine Super Sayia-Jin Evolution : 400,000,000 - x20 of 20,000,000 from Divine Super Sayia-Jin
Full Power Super Sayia-Jin : x700,000,000
Super Sayia-Jin Berserk : x100
Super Sayia-Jin Rosé : x20,000,000
@@75JUNAKI nice
Ssj2 is 100 ssj3 is 400 WHAT ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT
@@thewerewolfgod74
Nope, that was never officially stated
We only have the multiplier for Unmastered SSJ and we know SSJ 2 is x 2 of Mastered SSJ and SSJ 3 is x4 of SSJ 2
In the manga it was stated SSJ grade 3 is 10 times stronger than Unmastered SSJ which would mean Mastered SSJ is either 500x (if we agree that Mastered SSJ is as strong as Grade 3 but without the slowness)
Unmastered SSJ - 50x
SSJ Grade 2 - 100x
SSJ Grade 3 - 500x (Heavy drain and slowness)
Mastered SSJ - 500x
SSJ 2 - 1000X
SSJ 3 - 4000x
@@srnova9486 than what's ss4 multiplier
Damn you could even power scale the other side stories characters of db af it will actually be lit and unreal will probably get jealous he likes doing these a lot but with you its actually interesting.
I think Super Saiyan 5 will have golden fur and flowing gold hair to reflect the golden Ozaroo.
Visibly it looks like Super Saiyan 4 crossed with Ultra Instinct, which would be cool.
Soo like is ssj5 gohan Official now in the new movie. Neat
young gee gees manga is continuing and we get super saiyan 6 so maybe a follow up to this video is needed ;) love these power scaling videos
Damn this was freaking awesome you finally did this video I was waiting for this one this one is fucking awesome🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
3:50 it’s never been said or implied that gold great ape is a super Saiyan 3 multiplier plus great ape
Listen to him carefully,he said that Baby was in "SSJ3" and Golden great ape make him go equal or more powerful than him
There's a guide that says that Super Baby 2 is his equivilent to Vegeta's SSJ3. That multiplier times the Oozaru (As he transformed into an Oozaru), you have the compined multiplier.
At great ape but a super saiyan. 10 times 50 is 500. Either GT is retarded or *POWER LEVELS ARE BULLSHIT*
Ninir he actually says goku must have multiplied on top of his super saiyan 3... and if we watch closely.... the hairstyles of both great apes, that statement doesn’t add up
So Baby's final form is what Vegeta's super saiyan 3 would look like.
Super saiyan 5 would make more sense to look like a golden spikier version of super saiyan 4 rather than this long hair white form.
Xicor? The original Goku Black? PFFFFFFT
We all know it's Turles
I want super Saiyan 5 to be official 🥺
It is
@@jscopsgaming it isnt there wasent apperenc of it anywhere it was made up form from fans
eu também
It's official in our hearts
@@jovan.v7690toyotaro, the current illustrator and primary story writer for the DBS manga has his own DBAF manga with SS5, so it's possible that he makes it official at some point
My friend made a fan manga called Dragon Ball RS and ssj5 had 3 grades. 1st grade was a 2X boost to ssj4, 2nd grade was a 10X boost to grade one ssj5, and the final grade was a 1 million X boost onto that.
You could get ssj5 after attaining mystic on top of ssj4, grade 2 was after extreme rage, and grade 3 after fusion with a dragon (from the dragon balls of course).
Oh shit, that's awesome. I'm tryna read it. But idk the link.
Chuck can you do golden ssj 4 pls
It sickens me that someone people say Super Saiyan 5 is a copy of Perfected U.I
Nah, its just a recolor of ssj4
@@clickmaster3692 exactly
@@clickmaster3692 are you blind? Ssj5 has wayy more hair than ssj4.
Finally someone to agree ssg>ss4
Did any one actually disagree
Everybody knows that
@@lamertofar8gaming443 I've seen ppl saying ss4 is like 4000x stronger than 3 and he got x10000 times stronger and his 'power' level is like 7 septillion and random bullshit, where in reality ssg can stomp ss4 with es
I honestly think ss4 is stronger then ssg, but I know ss4 would get stomped on by ssb.
I always knew SSG was stronger than SSJ4 and that's before T.O.P. After T.O.P now ssj4 isn't even close to SSG now.
I HEARD ICHIG'S THEME PAYING AT THE BACKGRUND
SSJ5 Orion: "I Have Obtained This Level Of
Power Through Fusing With The Ultimate Dragon Balls/Ultimate Shenron!"
Ah dat intro is🔥
Xicor, the original Goku Black? Is there something I missed? Is that what people are calling him? Also, if I'm remembering correctly, Rigor said his base form was basically his SSJ4 form, but only as far as his power level. And he hasn't been able to actually transform into his SSJ4 state for a few years or something like that. Been a while since I've read that fan made manga. One of my favorites too.
Anyway, great informative video once again, Chuck. Thanks.
Can you make a video about how strong Marvel and DC characters are compared to saiyans please? That'll sound cool
This is what happens when you try to get information from like 7 different sources that have no bearing upon one another.
miss the days with this intro
White fur ssj 4 looks dope
You could ask mellavelli, he has his channel on RUclips and has been creating his series called "Dragon ball Absalon" which is similar to AF, there is the super saiyan 5 involved in some versions of that story.
You could also ask "Prince Gas Vegeta", one of the creators of Dragon ball AF, he is the one responsible for creating the "Dragon ball budokai AF" mod for PS2, he has a RUclips channel called "PGVChannel", he also has a Facebook page, he also has his version of super saiyan 5, but his story takes place 700 years after GT, so I guess he is the most powerful version of all, imagine a Goku or Vegeta with that base state of 700 years , crazy, finally, he is creating a Dragon ball AF animated movie with the help of various animators and users, based on his version of AF.
PD: I sincerely believe that for those stories it is already logical to think that they beat destroyer gods, they can even beat angels in some, because we are overlooking the experienced base states of Goku and company in those stories set in a future post GT, added to the immense multiplier of super saiyan 5 in that experienced base state.
Why doesn't xicor have a tail though?
Could you do a sort of remake on the ssj4 and ssj5 videos? Just in case anything changes.
I know a guy who knows a guy who look at a guy who walk past the guy who made the ss5
is that the Death Note music in the background????
İn some af stories ssj5 has 100x ssj4
and in that story ssj 6 1000x times stronger than ssj5
which is crayz to think of.
I'm gonna check out the DBAF Manga.
There's a couple different versions of it by youngjijii, toyble, and many others. All are great but I'd recommend youngjijii's , you could also check out toyble's version but he actually got noticed by Akira and is working with him on the super manga so his dbaf is unfinished
4:18 ultra instinct ssj4
would you cover What if 6 super Saiyan gods or super Saiyan blues did the super Saiyan god ritual?
Do one for the Super Saiyan 0.
So can you power scale Xicor now?
chuck, what do you think on the theory that ssj4 gogeta is ssj5?
for me it makes sense as all prior and after itterations of fusion (be it dance or potara) keep the same form(ssj,ssj3,blue etc.) with the only exception being our boi ssj4 gogeta with the crimson hair instead of black hair and diffrent coloured fur.
In my opinion :
Golden ozaru = x5.000
Ssj4 = x40.000
Ssj5 = x1.000.000
And
Ssj God = x20.000
Ssj Blue = x1.000.000
ssj god = X200.000 xd
A SSJ5 video Pretty interesting
Khalil super saiyan 5 transformation
Could you do a fan manga versus battle such as rigor vs dbs goku, Xicor vs Goku black, IZE vs dbs vegeta,
God Dammit Chuck! You pulled the GT fans out of their hole!
Can we get more info on Spirit Killer? Like, why is it called that?
4:36 i like this Death Note theme 🤗
Chuck this may sound retared but can you try to power scale the Time patroller from Xenoverse 1 vs 2
To make more sense at the Difference between all 4 Grades, not counting Grade 5 Super Saiyan as it's Super Saiyan 2, it goes like this, oh, and the Multiplier is base on what I think each Grade is, so don't worry about that.
Grade 1 ×50
• -Stamina
Grade 2 ×60 (×1.15)
• -Stamina +Speed
Grade 3 ×75 (×1.2)
• -Stamina -Speed +Strength
Grade 4 ×50 to ×400 (×8)
• ++Speed ++Strength
• No Stamina Lost
• Finite Power Level Control
Grade 4 is the Perfected, Mastered, and True Form of a Form. Meaning, in my point of View, Each Form has this 4 Grades as well.
What I meant by -Stamina, is based off of the fact that, when Goku uses either Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3, his time limit lowers even faster the higher form they go to, while Perfected Super Saiyan, aka Super Saiyan Grade 4, has no Drawbacks to the point that they technically turn it into their New Base form, which sadly didn't.
...
This is my own Multiplier and my own way of Naming Certain Forms.
Mastered Perfected True ×8
Full Power ×10
Limit Breaker ×1k
Ikari ×8 to ×80
Oozaru ×10 to ×80
Super Saiyan ×50
Super Saiyan 2 ×100
Super Saiyan 3 ×400
Super Oozaru ×500
Wrathful Saiyan (SSJ4) ×4K
Wrathful Super Saiyan ×200k
Saiyan God (Red) ×20k
Super Saiyan God (Blue) ×1M
Fun Fact: It stated that the Blue Hair Symbolizes the Lack of Truly being born or given the title of an Actual God and the Pink aka Roze Form of Goku Black is the Right Hair Color if either Goku or Vegeta was given the title of any True God.
Like, if a Saiyan has the title and position of "God of Earth", "Kai", "Supreme Kai", "God of Destruction" and so on, if they ever go Beyond Red, they'll gain Pink Hair, rather then Blue.
I don't get where you get all this multiplier from. From official one, ssj = x50 of base form, ssj2 = x100, ssj3 = x400 but here, mssj = x500? mssj suppose to be mastered ssj and lower than ssj2. lol..
Yes we want super saiyan 4 and 5 to be canon
But is Rigor's SSJ5 form the same as the silver-haired one? Like, his own version?
Gogito is actually not this strong
Now, fusion multipliers are pretty tricky. It’s basically (fs1(fighter strength)+fs2)x fusion multiplier.
I’d say the potara is stronger than the dance, and the research I’ve found concludes the following:
Potara Earring=(fs1+fs2)x1,500
Fusion Dance=(fs1+fs2)x1,200
Now, going by these calculations, if Goku’s base power is one(it doesn’t change anything no matter what number I choose here) and Vegeta’s power is equal, then Vegito’s base is 3,000 and Gogeta’s base is 2,400, then Gogito’s power is (3,000+2,400)x1,200 (Gogito has 4 rings on his fighters outfit, implying fusion dance) or 6,480,000. Now, Gogito base is 6.48 million. Goku gets a power up times 80 million when powering up into super saiyan god. When Gogito powers up into Super Saiyan, he gets to a power level of 324 million. Now, when Goku powers up to Blue, he gets to 4 billion (50x80,000,000). Gogito powering up to SS3 is only 2.592 billion. Now, if he powers up to SSG, he’s now at a power level of 518.4 TRILLION. Pretty powerful, right? TUI Goku only has a measly power level of ~2 trillion compared to this.
Now, the omni super saiyan has a power level of 1.44 septillion (at a lowball!)
Gogito Royal Bluex20 KaioKen=15.552 quintillion
Gogito PUI=523.26 quintillion
Now, moment I’m sure you’ve been waiting for
Gogito SSJ20k=400E+19,997 x 6,480,000
This number has so many zeros, that if I were to paste it here, it would be 4-7 times the size of what I’ve already written. To put that into perspective, Omni SS3 Goku= 11,520,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 11.52 septillion, or 1,152E+22
Gogito wins for sure, but against Omni Super Saiyan Goku, his only hope is SS20k.
Super Saiyan God is still more powerful than Super Saiyan 4, just by the feats at this point in time, Super Saiyan 5 could be closer in power to Super Saiyan God, but I still believe Super Saiyan God would stomp 4 and 5 everywhere.
Thats my boi
Nahh
DrJoNeZ 97 doubt
Ssj4 is same or close as blue , ssj 5 is more like UI , never achieved before by no one
@@zabkaninjitsu1040 not even close. Ssj4 and ssj5 has shown nothing close to ssg let alone blue and ui
Hey chuck you should talk about the guyver and how strong he is
I really liked the saiyan buster armor video, and makes me wonder what batman would do to take down a saiyan. What I mean by that is besides making armor would he train himself like the z fighters to at least but more of a combat advantage.
Can you do about the endless plz
I made one gogeta ss5 transformation animation something like a month ago
do you think that xicor can defeat rigor
is the ssj 5 comparible to mastered ultra instinct
So, Xicor is from a timeline where Chi-Chi didn't swallow?
Eyes closed fighting shenron ultra instinct confirmed years ago
Super Sayian 5 is also in the fan series dragonball absolon, by Mellville
Here is what I believe the Multipliers should be
Oozaru/Ikari:10x
Kaioken:1.5-20x
Super Sayian(Grade 1):50x
Super Sayian(Grade 2):75x
Super Sayian(Grade 3):750x Power 35x Speed
Super Sayian(Grade 4):500x Overall
Super Sayian 2:1’000x
Super Sayian 3:4’000x
Super Sayian 2(Amplified/Rage boost used by Vegeta and Trunks in super Manga):5’000x
Golden Oozaru:50’000x
Super Sayian 4(Initial):625’000x
Super Sayian 4(Full Power):750’000x
Super Sayian 4(Ultra Full Power):60’000’000x
Super Sayian 4 (Ascended):120’000’000x
Super Sayian 4(True Form):360’000’000x
Super Sayian 5:5’400’000’000x
Super Sayian God:2’000’000x
Super Sayian Blue(Initial):10’000’000x
Super Sayian Blue (Advanced):20’000’000x
Super Sayian Blue (Complete):100’000’000x
Super Sayian Blue (Kaioken):200’000’000-2’000’000’000x
Ultra Instinct(Omen 1):5’000’000’000x
Ultra Instinct(Omen 2): 10’000’000’000x
Ultra Instinct(Omen 3): 1’000’000’000’000x
Ultra Instinct(Mastered): 1’000’000’000’000’000x
Ultra Ego:1’000’000’000’000’000x
ssj 5 is 200k x times stronger than ssj 4 full powwr in af stories
So your not going to mention young jijji’s DBAf version of Super satins 5? I would think that you would because he’s literally the only artist I know that had finished his version of the form and story..malick studio’s to my knowledge has not even finished his take on DBAF or Ssj5, not to mention he’s even rebooted his concept as a whole. Young Jijjii has kept the transformation linear to the cannon material without including extra mystical concepts to the form. Just simply an evolved form of super sayian 4...
So post tournament of power goku or rigor?
Coby Roberts post ToP Goku slaps no difficulty.
Oh do "Broly gained the Strength Force"
that'll be OP as hell wtf
Make a video on Archie Sonic VS Xeno Goku
Shubham Sonsurkar Xeno Goku stomps no diff.
xeno goku will win
Xeno goku solos
I love super saiyan 5 and I wish it was canon maybe we can see it in the new movie
Who wants to see Toyotaro rewrite DBAF using his insider information about DBS, DBH and Xenoverse?
2:40 Or maybe Grade 4 is just a full mastery of a grade 1
Give us Ultra Instinct Farmer w/ Shotgun
Super saiyan 18 Power scale please
Tbh I personally consider ssj5 similar to ssjb, but not in power. This is a good way to explain it:
Ssjb = 50X ssjb
Ssj5 = 50X ssj4
ssjb = 50x ssjg*
Fun fact: technically super saiyan 4 is canon even if gt was to be confirmed not to be canon
What is the best dragon ball af manga? I pick young jijii's manga
Can't wait to see Super Satan God Super Satan
blue still stomps no effort
Doubt
razor dragon he gives the highest multiplier at several million. well.... SSB ranges somewhere in the billions as a multiplyer, SethTheProgrammer did a video on it a ways back.
razor dragon actually on one of chuck's own videos, SSB is somewhere around 51 QUADRILLION x base. that's a difference similar to a grizzly bear vs Galactus.
Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 you are factually wrong. chuck's video is called ssj4 goku vs ssb goku (super vs gt) and seth's is called super saiyan blue vs super saiyan 4.
Also, your feelings on the looks of the transformations does not change the fact that ssb as a transformation absolutely slaps 4 and 5 simultaneously.
The New Patriot "goku did fight off against beerus but he did not take the god ki into himself"
so... how do you figure?
Hmm now ssj god vs ssj5?
How does it compare to ssg?
who would win cosmic ghostrider or naruto
The fanmade forms are better than the canon forms post dragonball GT
Not really sum are jus generic
GT isnt Cannon dbaf isn't canon