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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2018
  • The Super Saiyan forms are a staple within the Dragon Ball universe that is not bound to end anytime soon. Even though the franchise supposedly ended with GT in the late 1990s, the fanbase went wild on introducing more and more forms, but none were as popular as the silver-haired Super Saiyan 5.
    Clearly, since this transformation is not official, nor canon, it's not expected to see this form's multiplier being touched upon in a guide, but it can be guesstimated going by official guides and writer information. So, does this form multiply the user's power by hundreds of times, perhaps even millions of times? I break down the possible multiplier of this amazing, fan canon transformation.
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Комментарии • 616

  • @Chuck
    @Chuck  6 лет назад +156

    Oh yeah, be sure to check out the links in the description for in-depth videos on the SSJ multipliers alongside the artist/animator pages to support them!
    Next video will be pretty calc heavy, so be on the lookout for it this weekend! kthxbai

    • @Tyrantlizardking52
      @Tyrantlizardking52 6 лет назад +2

      Chuck do a darkseid vs Thanos video that shit will definitely go crazy or another good option would be a powescale on the true power of hulk considering there are some people out there who believe hulk is only planet level

    • @dracul691
      @dracul691 6 лет назад +3

      Can you attempt to power scale Xicor? I think that would be a really cool video.

    • @gokublack5831
      @gokublack5831 6 лет назад +1

      I have one question though so now that you gave the multiplier where would you put ssj 5 goku high multi galaxy + or universal or multi universal? And where would he stack up to dragon ball super goku

    • @sanjaykerpal6060
      @sanjaykerpal6060 6 лет назад +3

      Chuck can you compare ssj5 to dbs ssb goku/vegeta in each arc ?

    • @jollygoodfellow3957
      @jollygoodfellow3957 6 лет назад

      "Grade 4" is no more than somewhat higher than 50x, if at all.
      When Goku turned SSJ2 in front of Zamasu for the first time, Zamasu said Goku became "tens of times" stronger, or by another translation, "several dozen" times. If Goku's SSJ was 500x, and thus his SSJ2 1,000x base, it would be more accurate to say Goku became "hundreds," or "several hundred" or "a thousand" times stronger. Several hundred or a thousand times base is not "tens" or "dozens" of times.
      The most Grade 4 could possibly be would be somewhat more than 50x but not even 100x base, because then if Goku became 200x stronger than base, that's still multiple hundreds of times stronger. Say, as an example, if SSJ was 75x base and thus SSJ2 being 150x base, that *could* technically fall into "several tens"(15 sets of 10) or "several dozen"(12.5 sets of 12). Anything reaching up to or beyond SSJ2 being 200x base would warrant Zamasu(and thus the *writers* of the show) to say Goku's SSJ2 made him hundreds(plural) or several hundred or thousands of times stronger.
      You might want to say that Goku may have been suppressed when he transformed but no one noted Goku as having powered up after his initial transformation.

  • @akiratoriyama9211
    @akiratoriyama9211 6 лет назад +826

    Maybe I will make Super Saiyan 4 and 5 canon some day. Would you guys want that?

    • @PeridotiProductions
      @PeridotiProductions 6 лет назад +105

      Yes dad

    • @midwestmischief3393
      @midwestmischief3393 6 лет назад +59

      Wait your not tori,
      If you were you would say wait i designed ssj4 i can't remember and what's this ssj4.5
      hmmm I guess toyo made these i best leave now.

    • @taytonium1908
      @taytonium1908 6 лет назад +58

      make el hermano canon

    • @CityEscapist1220
      @CityEscapist1220 6 лет назад +72

      Better than that lame ass blue shit

    • @PapaMcfly1
      @PapaMcfly1 6 лет назад +37

      Nah get those garbage forms out of here and give us MUI shaggy instead 😤

  • @LordAizenBankai
    @LordAizenBankai 6 лет назад +68

    Good morning Chuck!

    • @daniyal3630
      @daniyal3630 6 лет назад +1

      Oh wow. Even you watch Chuck?

    • @ninir4596
      @ninir4596 5 лет назад

      @@daniyal3630 she watches him for longer than her channel was created.

    • @christopherhoffer6643
      @christopherhoffer6643 5 лет назад

      Hey can you put ariche ultra sonic on the Teir list please.

    • @naturesentrepreneur8432
      @naturesentrepreneur8432 5 лет назад +1

      No cares for your stinky good morning from ur cancerous mouth

    • @thatonejerry9092
      @thatonejerry9092 5 лет назад

      The legendary tier lister is here

  • @MrPomegranX
    @MrPomegranX 5 лет назад +77

    Why was Vegeta’s brother trying to kill him?
    Because fan-fiction that’s why.

    • @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
      @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets 5 лет назад +11

      Because Vegeta killed his mother.

    • @sean.a.s7234
      @sean.a.s7234 5 лет назад +1

      @@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets So they're only half brothers?

    • @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
      @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets 5 лет назад +6

      @@sean.a.s7234 yes.

    • @abassalqattan7820
      @abassalqattan7820 4 года назад

      @@icyhot1189
      He was not

    • @amgia2265
      @amgia2265 4 года назад

      @@icyhot1189 yes. If you take a good look, I can still actually see he trying to give his brother a chance.

  • @primalvelocity3811
    @primalvelocity3811 5 лет назад +26

    Chuck is intensely underrated. You need more subscribers and rightful recognition, keep up the outstanding work and content!

  • @sithlordbeerus503
    @sithlordbeerus503 5 лет назад +16

    Tbh that's one of the best intros iv seen lol

  • @korinokeefe7214
    @korinokeefe7214 6 лет назад +21

    This turned out to be a damn good video Chuck! I definitely enjoyed!

  • @imreplyingtothiscomment2378
    @imreplyingtothiscomment2378 6 лет назад +70

    Powerscale toriko characters

    • @mariai.cubillo4577
      @mariai.cubillo4577 5 лет назад +4

      im replying to this comment, the problems is that they probably haven't seen the series like Seth who a few years ago couldn't scale Bleach because he didn't know about the series, but I agree I love the series and the are pretty strong.

    • @stop-mh8di
      @stop-mh8di 5 лет назад +1

      They are at least Dwarf star level,done.

    • @mariai.cubillo4577
      @mariai.cubillo4577 5 лет назад +1

      um neo ate a bunch of stars before and ate a supernova from don slime, and everyone gets a lot stronger after that point.
      www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c381/5.html
      www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/4.html
      www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/5.html
      www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/6.html
      www.mangahere.cc/manga/toriko/c364/7.html

    • @antoniobandito3161
      @antoniobandito3161 5 лет назад +1

      im replying to this comment yes please

    • @narayasuiryoku1397
      @narayasuiryoku1397 4 года назад +1

      stop Interesting maybe I should watch.

  • @aytgh
    @aytgh 6 лет назад +59

    Rigor the original Kanba and Vegeta's version of Raditz

    • @MegaMachiOnline
      @MegaMachiOnline 5 лет назад

      He came before the Tarble special?

    • @joshualowe1821
      @joshualowe1821 5 лет назад +5

      Aytgh Cumber was basically based off Rigor.

    • @MegaMachiOnline
      @MegaMachiOnline 5 лет назад +3

      @@joshualowe1821
      Cumber is just strong and gets triggered by SSG.
      Rigor is something very different. Like an intelligent Broly with royal blood that trains.

    • @joshualowe1821
      @joshualowe1821 5 лет назад

      Machiyuu-gaming the upcoming Dragon Ball Super Broly movie will make Broly intelligent!

    • @MegaMachiOnline
      @MegaMachiOnline 5 лет назад

      @@joshualowe1821
      Did I stutter?

  • @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance
    @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance 5 лет назад +16

    SS5 is pretty crazy OP. And God form is supposed to be even higher! Yikes...

  • @JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR
    @JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR 5 лет назад +70

    add an N before rigor's name and take out the R...….. OH NO

    • @pizzavictory113
      @pizzavictory113 5 лет назад +1

      Just A Robot 2 oh........OOOOOOOH 😯 shit

    • @apexpredator6960
      @apexpredator6960 5 лет назад

      Thanks for the idea

    • @KLfrmthechi773
      @KLfrmthechi773 5 лет назад

      that was pretty stupid

    • @lxuie7380
      @lxuie7380 5 лет назад +1

      @David Ortiz he means take out the R before igor and replace it with the N, Nigor

    • @godofwait
      @godofwait 5 лет назад +1

      Pronounced Nye-gore ?

  • @LordAizenBankai
    @LordAizenBankai 6 лет назад +31

    Can you please have look and possibly debunk my Explaining the Tier System video? Thanks mate!

    • @liljimmy4940
      @liljimmy4940 6 лет назад +9

      Why would you WANT someone to debunk your own video

    • @TS-tk5kj
      @TS-tk5kj 6 лет назад +2

      "Chuck please only 4% of my subscribers watch my videos pls help"

    • @Archangel_Be
      @Archangel_Be 6 лет назад +1

      Whhat? I thought you tiering system was meant to be a joke...?

    • @naturesentrepreneur8432
      @naturesentrepreneur8432 5 лет назад

      @@Archangel_Be hahahahaha

    • @naturesentrepreneur8432
      @naturesentrepreneur8432 5 лет назад

      Guys did any one watched her latest " top 10 strongest saiyan"?
      OMG he just put lssj broly way above mui goku.

  • @ZayDeyknow
    @ZayDeyknow 6 лет назад +40

    umm the original goku black goes to turtles thank you

    • @SoraDonaldGoofy99
      @SoraDonaldGoofy99 5 лет назад +5

      Turles? Must have been autocorrect, my lord.

    • @thepurpleshade486
      @thepurpleshade486 5 лет назад

      Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 TURTLES IS MORE POWER FULL THAN SUPER SAYA DJINN FIFRTY TRY BAJILLION!!!

    • @onyxt3589
      @onyxt3589 3 года назад

      @@SoraDonaldGoofy99 old af (see what i did there?) but Turles isn't incorrect. You can also say "Bejita" instead of Vegeta.

  • @hamza361
    @hamza361 6 лет назад +50

    Rigor was stronger than Omega as a Ssj4 not ssj5. Ssj5 was stated to be 13 on the god scale with Ssj4 Gogeta being slightly below or equal to Beerus 9 or 10 as Malik stated.

    • @hamza361
      @hamza361 6 лет назад +4

      Abhinav Chandra not sure what your referring too but Gogeta got smacked by Rigor ssj5

    • @dennis2667
      @dennis2667 6 лет назад +5

      @@abhinavchandra4881 gogeta didnt over power him in ssj5 rigor lost to much stamina and went back to base thats when gogeta ended it

    • @joshualowe1821
      @joshualowe1821 5 лет назад +1

      Hamza Adrees Hamza.......
      IF Super Saiyan FOUR Rigor is stronger than Omega, then Super Saiyan *FIVE* is *DEFINITELY* stronger than Rigor.😒

    • @hamza361
      @hamza361 5 лет назад +1

      Joshua Lowe I mean how it was said in the new age manga. Of course that’s common sense.

    • @johnnykilroy3737
      @johnnykilroy3737 5 лет назад +2

      But ssj4 Gogeta technically won

  • @sirrparker47
    @sirrparker47 6 лет назад +145

    But can he beat 1% Power Shaggy?

    • @ninir4596
      @ninir4596 5 лет назад +20

      no

    • @rhysjonsmusic
      @rhysjonsmusic 5 лет назад +11

      No

    • @theoneandonly8403
      @theoneandonly8403 5 лет назад +11

      1% Shaggy Base solos all of Dragon Ball fiction real and fake.

    • @DX-vj1cg
      @DX-vj1cg 5 лет назад +5

      @@theoneandonly8403 nah i still think yamcha popo and farmer with a shotgun could beat him

    • @Ysmnfgj
      @Ysmnfgj 5 лет назад +1

      Roman Segreti not when shaggy goes ultra instinct then it would take people stronger than what they are in the games (including heros) just to be able to hit him

  • @chaddormammu646
    @chaddormammu646 4 года назад +2

    I thought this video got deleted.
    good thing it’s back though I love this Vid.

  • @TheIrishKing
    @TheIrishKing 3 года назад +34

    This is what I think the Multi’s are for the SS forms:
    Great Ape: x10
    Ikari: x10
    False SS: x35
    SS (grade 1): x50
    SS (grade 2): x150
    SS (grade 3): x1,500 (to slow to matter)
    SS (grade 4): x500
    SS2: x1,000
    SS3: x4,000
    Golden Great Ape: x40,000
    SS4 (initial): x400,000
    SS4 (FP): x1,000,000
    SS4 (UFP): x5,000,000
    SSG: x10,000,000
    SS5: x15,000,000
    SSB: x500,000,000
    SSBE: x1,500,000,000
    I know not everyone will agree to this, but this is my opinion and I have a right to it. So please, instead of just saying “your wrong” in the comments, give me a reason of why you think otherwise. That’s if you do think otherwise of course.

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI 3 года назад +5

      TheGamingGalaxy
      I respectfully disagree but I'm not saying your wrong but this is what I think the multipliers for the Sayia-Jin's forms are
      Oozaru : x10
      Golden Oozaru : x500 - x10 (Oozaru) X x50 (Super Sayia-Jin)
      Ikari : x10
      Super Sayia-Jin : x50
      Super Sayia-Jin Grade 2 : x70 - +20 of x50 from Super Sayia-Jin
      Super Sayia-Jin Grade 3 : x700 - x10 of x70 from Super Sayia-Jin Grade 2
      Super Sayia-Jin Grade 4 (refined Super Sayia-Jin) : x50
      Super Sayia-Jin Grade 5 / 2 : x100 - x2 of x50 from Super Sayia-Jin 1
      Super Sayia-Jin 3 : x400 - x4 of x100 from Super Sayia-Jin 2
      Super Sayia-Jin 4 : x20,000 - x50 of x400 from Super Sayia-Jin 3
      Ultra Full Power Super Sayia-Jin 4 : x40,000 - x2 of x20,000 from regular Super Sayia-Jin 4
      Super Sayia-Jin God : 400,000
      Divine Super Sayia-Jin (rename for Super Sayia-Jin Blue) : 20,000,000 - x50 of 400,000 from Super Sayia-Jin God
      Divine Super Sayia-Jin Evolution : 400,000,000 - x20 of 20,000,000 from Divine Super Sayia-Jin
      Full Power Super Sayia-Jin : x700,000,000
      Super Sayia-Jin Berserk : x100
      Super Sayia-Jin Rosé : x20,000,000

    • @steelsoild6909
      @steelsoild6909 3 года назад

      @@75JUNAKI nice

    • @thewerewolfgod74
      @thewerewolfgod74 2 года назад +4

      Ssj2 is 100 ssj3 is 400 WHAT ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT

    • @srnova9486
      @srnova9486 2 года назад

      @@thewerewolfgod74
      Nope, that was never officially stated
      We only have the multiplier for Unmastered SSJ and we know SSJ 2 is x 2 of Mastered SSJ and SSJ 3 is x4 of SSJ 2
      In the manga it was stated SSJ grade 3 is 10 times stronger than Unmastered SSJ which would mean Mastered SSJ is either 500x (if we agree that Mastered SSJ is as strong as Grade 3 but without the slowness)
      Unmastered SSJ - 50x
      SSJ Grade 2 - 100x
      SSJ Grade 3 - 500x (Heavy drain and slowness)
      Mastered SSJ - 500x
      SSJ 2 - 1000X
      SSJ 3 - 4000x

    • @thewerewolfgod74
      @thewerewolfgod74 2 года назад +1

      @@srnova9486 than what's ss4 multiplier

  • @raisefanfics
    @raisefanfics Год назад

    Thanks for making this video! I really needed help with the confusion loophole that is Dragon Ball multiplier system

  • @Imatanalltimelow
    @Imatanalltimelow Год назад +1

    I think it would follow the main line of SSJ normally with the multiplier functions of the forms. So it would be like:
    False SSJ: 25x (Half of SSJ)
    SSJ: 50X
    SSJ2: 100X (2X Stronger than SSJ)
    SSJ3: 400X (4X stronger than SSJ2)
    SSJ4: 4,000X (10X stronger than SSJ3, but ssj4 breaks the cycle a bit)
    And lastly, if we revert back to what the line should be, then that leaves us with:
    SSJ5: 64,000 (16X stronger than SSJ4).
    And for the series back then, this would’ve been insane either way so there’s no need to go higher, and it would still be understandably supreme as a power multiplier.

  • @caxem996
    @caxem996 5 лет назад +3

    New to channel, watched your Marvel in Tournament of Power. Enjoyed very much. You should do DC in tournament of power. Could include heroes like: Superman, Wonderwoman, Flash (Wally or Barry), Green Lantern(s), Doomsday, Despero, Sinestro, Mongul, Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Shazam, Black Adam, Dr. Fate, Captain Atom, Lex Luthor, Amazo, Reverse Flash/Zoom, Bizzaro, Solomon Grundy, Power Girl, Firestorm. I'd watch that video like hella fast

  • @MajinBlueTheFutureMade
    @MajinBlueTheFutureMade 6 лет назад

    Might be my Favorite Video you have ever done dude i love this !

  • @GabrielRodriguez-yr3md
    @GabrielRodriguez-yr3md 4 года назад +5

    Hey Chuck, Could you do a hypothetical ssj5 goku vs ssj god goku with and without god essence

  • @liljimmy4940
    @liljimmy4940 6 лет назад +5

    Itd be cool to see a ssj5 make it to the cannon series

  • @ianthecoolthief6226
    @ianthecoolthief6226 3 года назад +5

    I think Super Saiyan 5 will have golden fur and flowing gold hair to reflect the golden Ozaroo.

  • @jscopsgaming
    @jscopsgaming 2 года назад +1

    Soo like is ssj5 gohan Official now in the new movie. Neat

  • @gokublack5831
    @gokublack5831 6 лет назад +4

    Damn you could even power scale the other side stories characters of db af it will actually be lit and unreal will probably get jealous he likes doing these a lot but with you its actually interesting.

  • @jimrenzpama4440
    @jimrenzpama4440 3 года назад +6

    I want super Saiyan 5 to be official 🥺

  • @PapaMcfly1
    @PapaMcfly1 6 лет назад +55

    We need a video about MUI shaggy

    • @bluefacebaby4167
      @bluefacebaby4167 5 лет назад +2

      Too strong

    • @theinfinityeffect3244
      @theinfinityeffect3244 5 лет назад +1

      MUI Shaggy one shot Zeno...he can destroy multiverse by using his Zoinks cannon...

    • @myusername3689
      @myusername3689 5 лет назад

      Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 no bitch.

    • @myusername3689
      @myusername3689 5 лет назад +1

      Zoinks cannon will wreck you.

    • @pizzavictory113
      @pizzavictory113 5 лет назад

      Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 nah B WE ARE GONNA RUN WITH THESE MEMES TILL DRAGON BALL Z IS GONE

  • @TearDownGenesis
    @TearDownGenesis 5 лет назад +2

    Visibly it looks like Super Saiyan 4 crossed with Ultra Instinct, which would be cool.

  • @DBG_Studios
    @DBG_Studios 5 лет назад +7

    My friend made a fan manga called Dragon Ball RS and ssj5 had 3 grades. 1st grade was a 2X boost to ssj4, 2nd grade was a 10X boost to grade one ssj5, and the final grade was a 1 million X boost onto that.
    You could get ssj5 after attaining mystic on top of ssj4, grade 2 was after extreme rage, and grade 3 after fusion with a dragon (from the dragon balls of course).

  • @gokublack5831
    @gokublack5831 6 лет назад

    Damn this was freaking awesome you finally did this video I was waiting for this one this one is fucking awesome🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @MarvelousPhilly
    @MarvelousPhilly 5 лет назад +5

    Xicor, the original Goku Black? Is there something I missed? Is that what people are calling him? Also, if I'm remembering correctly, Rigor said his base form was basically his SSJ4 form, but only as far as his power level. And he hasn't been able to actually transform into his SSJ4 state for a few years or something like that. Been a while since I've read that fan made manga. One of my favorites too.
    Anyway, great informative video once again, Chuck. Thanks.

  • @U7OrionSS4UI
    @U7OrionSS4UI Год назад

    SSJ5 Orion: "I Have Obtained This Level Of
    Power Through Fusing With The Ultimate Dragon Balls/Ultimate Shenron!"

  • @rossbaker7400
    @rossbaker7400 8 месяцев назад

    young gee gees manga is continuing and we get super saiyan 6 so maybe a follow up to this video is needed ;) love these power scaling videos

  • @davidnewhart2533
    @davidnewhart2533 4 года назад +1

    So Baby's final form is what Vegeta's super saiyan 3 would look like.

  • @dinostar2894
    @dinostar2894 2 года назад +2

    Here is what I believe the Multipliers should be
    Oozaru/Ikari:10x
    Kaioken:1.5-20x
    Super Sayian(Grade 1):50x
    Super Sayian(Grade 2):75x
    Super Sayian(Grade 3):750x Power 35x Speed
    Super Sayian(Grade 4):500x Overall
    Super Sayian 2:1’000x
    Super Sayian 3:4’000x
    Super Sayian 2(Amplified/Rage boost used by Vegeta and Trunks in super Manga):5’000x
    Golden Oozaru:50’000x
    Super Sayian 4(Initial):625’000x
    Super Sayian 4(Full Power):750’000x
    Super Sayian 4(Ultra Full Power):60’000’000x
    Super Sayian 4 (Ascended):120’000’000x
    Super Sayian 4(True Form):360’000’000x
    Super Sayian 5:5’400’000’000x
    Super Sayian God:2’000’000x
    Super Sayian Blue(Initial):10’000’000x
    Super Sayian Blue (Advanced):20’000’000x
    Super Sayian Blue (Complete):100’000’000x
    Super Sayian Blue (Kaioken):200’000’000-2’000’000’000x
    Ultra Instinct(Omen 1):5’000’000’000x
    Ultra Instinct(Omen 2): 10’000’000’000x
    Ultra Instinct(Omen 3): 1’000’000’000’000x
    Ultra Instinct(Mastered): 1’000’000’000’000’000x
    Ultra Ego:1’000’000’000’000’000x

    • @SWF568
      @SWF568 7 месяцев назад

      ssj 5 is 200k x times stronger than ssj 4 full powwr in af stories

  • @suzurankishigane3995
    @suzurankishigane3995 10 месяцев назад

    To make more sense at the Difference between all 4 Grades, not counting Grade 5 Super Saiyan as it's Super Saiyan 2, it goes like this, oh, and the Multiplier is base on what I think each Grade is, so don't worry about that.
    Grade 1 ×50
    • -Stamina
    Grade 2 ×60 (×1.15)
    • -Stamina +Speed
    Grade 3 ×75 (×1.2)
    • -Stamina -Speed +Strength
    Grade 4 ×50 to ×400 (×8)
    • ++Speed ++Strength
    • No Stamina Lost
    • Finite Power Level Control
    Grade 4 is the Perfected, Mastered, and True Form of a Form. Meaning, in my point of View, Each Form has this 4 Grades as well.
    What I meant by -Stamina, is based off of the fact that, when Goku uses either Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3, his time limit lowers even faster the higher form they go to, while Perfected Super Saiyan, aka Super Saiyan Grade 4, has no Drawbacks to the point that they technically turn it into their New Base form, which sadly didn't.
    ...
    This is my own Multiplier and my own way of Naming Certain Forms.
    Mastered Perfected True ×8
    Full Power ×10
    Limit Breaker ×1k
    Ikari ×8 to ×80
    Oozaru ×10 to ×80
    Super Saiyan ×50
    Super Saiyan 2 ×100
    Super Saiyan 3 ×400
    Super Oozaru ×500
    Wrathful Saiyan (SSJ4) ×4K
    Wrathful Super Saiyan ×200k
    Saiyan God (Red) ×20k
    Super Saiyan God (Blue) ×1M
    Fun Fact: It stated that the Blue Hair Symbolizes the Lack of Truly being born or given the title of an Actual God and the Pink aka Roze Form of Goku Black is the Right Hair Color if either Goku or Vegeta was given the title of any True God.
    Like, if a Saiyan has the title and position of "God of Earth", "Kai", "Supreme Kai", "God of Destruction" and so on, if they ever go Beyond Red, they'll gain Pink Hair, rather then Blue.

  • @wasabiguy2450
    @wasabiguy2450 5 лет назад +3

    It sickens me that someone people say Super Saiyan 5 is a copy of Perfected U.I

    • @clickmaster3692
      @clickmaster3692 5 лет назад +2

      Nah, its just a recolor of ssj4

    • @wasabiguy2450
      @wasabiguy2450 5 лет назад

      @@clickmaster3692 exactly

    • @treemane0
      @treemane0 4 года назад +1

      @@clickmaster3692 are you blind? Ssj5 has wayy more hair than ssj4.

  • @myusername3689
    @myusername3689 2 года назад +1

    Super saiyan 5 would make more sense to look like a golden spikier version of super saiyan 4 rather than this long hair white form.

  • @gershonclay7675
    @gershonclay7675 5 лет назад +1

    Ah dat intro is🔥

  • @dragoncriptido
    @dragoncriptido Год назад

    You could ask mellavelli, he has his channel on RUclips and has been creating his series called "Dragon ball Absalon" which is similar to AF, there is the super saiyan 5 involved in some versions of that story.
    You could also ask "Prince Gas Vegeta", one of the creators of Dragon ball AF, he is the one responsible for creating the "Dragon ball budokai AF" mod for PS2, he has a RUclips channel called "PGVChannel", he also has a Facebook page, he also has his version of super saiyan 5, but his story takes place 700 years after GT, so I guess he is the most powerful version of all, imagine a Goku or Vegeta with that base state of 700 years , crazy, finally, he is creating a Dragon ball AF animated movie with the help of various animators and users, based on his version of AF.
    PD: I sincerely believe that for those stories it is already logical to think that they beat destroyer gods, they can even beat angels in some, because we are overlooking the experienced base states of Goku and company in those stories set in a future post GT, added to the immense multiplier of super saiyan 5 in that experienced base state.

  • @suiyeethepinkunicorn7780
    @suiyeethepinkunicorn7780 2 года назад +1

    Chuck can you do golden ssj 4 pls

  • @goku277db
    @goku277db Год назад +1

    Gogito is actually not this strong
    Now, fusion multipliers are pretty tricky. It’s basically (fs1(fighter strength)+fs2)x fusion multiplier.
    I’d say the potara is stronger than the dance, and the research I’ve found concludes the following:
    Potara Earring=(fs1+fs2)x1,500
    Fusion Dance=(fs1+fs2)x1,200
    Now, going by these calculations, if Goku’s base power is one(it doesn’t change anything no matter what number I choose here) and Vegeta’s power is equal, then Vegito’s base is 3,000 and Gogeta’s base is 2,400, then Gogito’s power is (3,000+2,400)x1,200 (Gogito has 4 rings on his fighters outfit, implying fusion dance) or 6,480,000. Now, Gogito base is 6.48 million. Goku gets a power up times 80 million when powering up into super saiyan god. When Gogito powers up into Super Saiyan, he gets to a power level of 324 million. Now, when Goku powers up to Blue, he gets to 4 billion (50x80,000,000). Gogito powering up to SS3 is only 2.592 billion. Now, if he powers up to SSG, he’s now at a power level of 518.4 TRILLION. Pretty powerful, right? TUI Goku only has a measly power level of ~2 trillion compared to this.
    Now, the omni super saiyan has a power level of 1.44 septillion (at a lowball!)
    Gogito Royal Bluex20 KaioKen=15.552 quintillion
    Gogito PUI=523.26 quintillion
    Now, moment I’m sure you’ve been waiting for
    Gogito SSJ20k=400E+19,997 x 6,480,000
    This number has so many zeros, that if I were to paste it here, it would be 4-7 times the size of what I’ve already written. To put that into perspective, Omni SS3 Goku= 11,520,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 11.52 septillion, or 1,152E+22
    Gogito wins for sure, but against Omni Super Saiyan Goku, his only hope is SS20k.

  • @nightmaretrooper5064
    @nightmaretrooper5064 5 лет назад +3

    I'm gonna check out the DBAF Manga.

    • @flexican5399
      @flexican5399 5 лет назад +3

      There's a couple different versions of it by youngjijii, toyble, and many others. All are great but I'd recommend youngjijii's , you could also check out toyble's version but he actually got noticed by Akira and is working with him on the super manga so his dbaf is unfinished

  • @cablemcmean6361
    @cablemcmean6361 5 лет назад +1

    Xicor? The original Goku Black? PFFFFFFT
    We all know it's Turles

  • @kushagrasharma5402
    @kushagrasharma5402 4 года назад +2

    I HEARD ICHIG'S THEME PAYING AT THE BACKGRUND

  • @killshotcodx9446
    @killshotcodx9446 5 лет назад +1

    Can you make a video about how strong Marvel and DC characters are compared to saiyans please? That'll sound cool

  • @sym_riot1276
    @sym_riot1276 3 года назад +1

    I know a guy who knows a guy who look at a guy who walk past the guy who made the ss5

  • @MichaelCruz-ty5st
    @MichaelCruz-ty5st 6 месяцев назад

    Yes we want super saiyan 4 and 5 to be canon

  • @KorgCrimson
    @KorgCrimson 6 лет назад

    God Dammit Chuck! You pulled the GT fans out of their hole!

  • @anastvexi4501
    @anastvexi4501 5 лет назад

    Ssj-50x
    Ssj2-100x
    Ssj3-400x
    Ssg-80.000x
    Golden ape-40.000x
    Ssj4 - 400.000x
    Ssj4 normal full power-1.600.000x
    Ssb-4.000.000x
    True ssj4 power-160.000.000x
    Ssbkkx20-80.000.000x
    Ssbe-200.000.000x
    Mssb-160.000.000x
    Mui-2.400.000.000x
    Ssj5-3.200.000.000x
    Fusion dance-base x base
    Fusion potara-base x base

  • @jivkojheliaskov9021
    @jivkojheliaskov9021 6 лет назад +26

    Finally someone to agree ssg>ss4

    • @akasakasad6271
      @akasakasad6271 6 лет назад +17

      Did any one actually disagree

    • @lamertofar8gaming443
      @lamertofar8gaming443 5 лет назад +2

      Everybody knows that

    • @jivkojheliaskov9021
      @jivkojheliaskov9021 5 лет назад +5

      @@lamertofar8gaming443 I've seen ppl saying ss4 is like 4000x stronger than 3 and he got x10000 times stronger and his 'power' level is like 7 septillion and random bullshit, where in reality ssg can stomp ss4 with es

    • @zachw7609
      @zachw7609 5 лет назад +3

      I honestly think ss4 is stronger then ssg, but I know ss4 would get stomped on by ssb.

    • @Humanimal117
      @Humanimal117 5 лет назад +5

      I always knew SSG was stronger than SSJ4 and that's before T.O.P. After T.O.P now ssj4 isn't even close to SSG now.

  • @mikederdrache3305
    @mikederdrache3305 3 года назад +1

    miss the days with this intro

  • @falcolord8404
    @falcolord8404 6 лет назад +10

    3:50 it’s never been said or implied that gold great ape is a super Saiyan 3 multiplier plus great ape

    • @ninir4596
      @ninir4596 5 лет назад +10

      Listen to him carefully,he said that Baby was in "SSJ3" and Golden great ape make him go equal or more powerful than him

    • @gerryeuw
      @gerryeuw 5 лет назад +1

      There's a guide that says that Super Baby 2 is his equivilent to Vegeta's SSJ3. That multiplier times the Oozaru (As he transformed into an Oozaru), you have the compined multiplier.

    • @funnymeme1847
      @funnymeme1847 5 лет назад

      At great ape but a super saiyan. 10 times 50 is 500. Either GT is retarded or *POWER LEVELS ARE BULLSHIT*

    • @max_garcia
      @max_garcia 4 года назад

      Ninir he actually says goku must have multiplied on top of his super saiyan 3... and if we watch closely.... the hairstyles of both great apes, that statement doesn’t add up

  • @pizzavictory113
    @pizzavictory113 5 лет назад

    A SSJ5 video Pretty interesting

  • @Musttaquilla
    @Musttaquilla 6 лет назад +1

    chuck, what do you think on the theory that ssj4 gogeta is ssj5?
    for me it makes sense as all prior and after itterations of fusion (be it dance or potara) keep the same form(ssj,ssj3,blue etc.) with the only exception being our boi ssj4 gogeta with the crimson hair instead of black hair and diffrent coloured fur.

  • @RobinSwede
    @RobinSwede 5 лет назад +1

    Why doesn't xicor have a tail though?

  • @absolutelyfookinnobody2843
    @absolutelyfookinnobody2843 3 года назад

    White fur ssj 4 looks dope

  • @KaiKrimson56
    @KaiKrimson56 Год назад

    So, Xicor is from a timeline where Chi-Chi didn't swallow?

  • @alejandromena9647
    @alejandromena9647 3 года назад +1

    Do one for the Super Saiyan 0.

  • @trinityUYA
    @trinityUYA 6 лет назад +2

    4:18 ultra instinct ssj4

  • @playlife44
    @playlife44 3 года назад +4

    Super saiyan grade1-50x
    Super saiyan grade2-65x
    Super saiyan grade3-80x
    Super saiyan grade4-50x
    Super saiyan 2-100x
    Super saiyan 3-400x
    Golden Oozaru-500x
    Super saiyan 4-4000x
    Regular Oozaru-10x

  • @GoodGuy374
    @GoodGuy374 4 года назад +1

    I don't get where you get all this multiplier from. From official one, ssj = x50 of base form, ssj2 = x100, ssj3 = x400 but here, mssj = x500? mssj suppose to be mastered ssj and lower than ssj2. lol..

  • @steelsoild6909
    @steelsoild6909 3 года назад

    Could you do a sort of remake on the ssj4 and ssj5 videos? Just in case anything changes.

  • @GokuGamer-bs7hk
    @GokuGamer-bs7hk 10 месяцев назад +1

    In my opinion :
    Golden ozaru = x5.000
    Ssj4 = x40.000
    Ssj5 = x1.000.000
    And
    Ssj God = x20.000
    Ssj Blue = x1.000.000

    • @tangyahong
      @tangyahong 2 месяца назад

      ssj god = X200.000 xd

  • @Aplesedjr
    @Aplesedjr 5 лет назад

    This is what happens when you try to get information from like 7 different sources that have no bearing upon one another.

  • @blagoje7
    @blagoje7 5 лет назад

    4:36 i like this Death Note theme 🤗

  • @dracul691
    @dracul691 6 лет назад +1

    So can you power scale Xicor now?

  • @drnebulae7578
    @drnebulae7578 5 лет назад +10

    Super Saiyan God is still more powerful than Super Saiyan 4, just by the feats at this point in time, Super Saiyan 5 could be closer in power to Super Saiyan God, but I still believe Super Saiyan God would stomp 4 and 5 everywhere.

    • @heroburns7684
      @heroburns7684 5 лет назад

      Thats my boi

    • @flexican5399
      @flexican5399 5 лет назад +1

      Nahh

    • @lightinstinct707
      @lightinstinct707 4 года назад +1

      DrJoNeZ 97 doubt

    • @zabkaninjitsu1040
      @zabkaninjitsu1040 4 года назад

      Ssj4 is same or close as blue , ssj 5 is more like UI , never achieved before by no one

    • @fadingmindset2453
      @fadingmindset2453 4 года назад

      @@zabkaninjitsu1040 not even close. Ssj4 and ssj5 has shown nothing close to ssg let alone blue and ui

  • @ty-ray1307
    @ty-ray1307 5 лет назад

    Could you do a fan manga versus battle such as rigor vs dbs goku, Xicor vs Goku black, IZE vs dbs vegeta,

  • @apexpredator6960
    @apexpredator6960 5 лет назад +1

    Oh do "Broly gained the Strength Force"

  • @rossbaker7400
    @rossbaker7400 Год назад

    would you cover What if 6 super Saiyan gods or super Saiyan blues did the super Saiyan god ritual?

  • @khalilnery
    @khalilnery 2 года назад +1

    Khalil super saiyan 5 transformation

  • @funnymeme1847
    @funnymeme1847 5 лет назад

    Tbh I personally consider ssj5 similar to ssjb, but not in power. This is a good way to explain it:
    Ssjb = 50X ssjb
    Ssj5 = 50X ssj4

  • @UltraGoobert
    @UltraGoobert 5 лет назад

    is that the Death Note music in the background????

  • @berserkchip
    @berserkchip 6 лет назад

    Can we get more info on Spirit Killer? Like, why is it called that?

  • @pizzavictory113
    @pizzavictory113 5 лет назад

    Chuck this may sound retared but can you try to power scale the Time patroller from Xenoverse 1 vs 2

  • @doltishiowa8577
    @doltishiowa8577 5 лет назад

    I really liked the saiyan buster armor video, and makes me wonder what batman would do to take down a saiyan. What I mean by that is besides making armor would he train himself like the z fighters to at least but more of a combat advantage.

  • @Creon692
    @Creon692 Год назад

    Like Super Saiyan 4 being s combination of SSJ x Oozaru, SSJ5 is SSJ3 x Oozaru.

  • @thunderstudent
    @thunderstudent 5 лет назад +3

    Who wants to see Toyotaro rewrite DBAF using his insider information about DBS, DBH and Xenoverse?

  • @narayasuiryoku1397
    @narayasuiryoku1397 4 года назад +1

    Grade 3 super sayan is just physically much stronger than any other form including super sayajin full bower. But they don’t use t cause it lack speed.

  • @MasterCast001
    @MasterCast001 5 лет назад

    But is Rigor's SSJ5 form the same as the silver-haired one? Like, his own version?

  • @TheTalyn08
    @TheTalyn08 5 лет назад +1

    The fanmade forms are better than the canon forms post dragonball GT

    • @capolean2902
      @capolean2902 5 лет назад

      Not really sum are jus generic

    • @flexican5399
      @flexican5399 5 лет назад

      GT isnt Cannon dbaf isn't canon

  • @leulmesfin6691
    @leulmesfin6691 2 года назад

    Oh ya

  • @MonkeBrain07
    @MonkeBrain07 5 лет назад +1

    The best DB AF is YoungJijii's

  • @underrated2064
    @underrated2064 6 лет назад +1

    Turles was the original goku Black

  • @anthonywaters424
    @anthonywaters424 6 лет назад +4

    Isnt grade 4 ssj just a perfected grade 1 ssj, i dont think the multipliers change but maybe im misinformed

    • @anthonywaters424
      @anthonywaters424 5 лет назад

      @Hitrule Mushin is there a specific source that specifies the multiplier

    • @anthonywaters424
      @anthonywaters424 5 лет назад

      I dont remember any characters state it was a power boost. It always came a cross as a form where u have mastered the full potential of the form hense the name, "mastered ssj", or "full power ssj"

  • @masterfox6832
    @masterfox6832 2 года назад

    someone made a real good argument for super saiyan 4 multiplier being 1.6 billion

    • @adiabdul2502
      @adiabdul2502 2 года назад

      Lmao no. Ssj4 multiplier is 3200. While ssj5 is 51200 multiplier.

    • @_Yombo
      @_Yombo 2 года назад

      @@adiabdul2502 Ssj4 is 4,000

  • @JaimeKing1989
    @JaimeKing1989 6 лет назад

    Hey chuck you should talk about the guyver and how strong he is

  • @brandonduncan1135
    @brandonduncan1135 4 года назад

    Super Sayian 5 is also in the fan series dragonball absolon, by Mellville

  • @inteqtipz6291
    @inteqtipz6291 3 года назад

    So your not going to mention young jijji’s DBAf version of Super satins 5? I would think that you would because he’s literally the only artist I know that had finished his version of the form and story..malick studio’s to my knowledge has not even finished his take on DBAF or Ssj5, not to mention he’s even rebooted his concept as a whole. Young Jijjii has kept the transformation linear to the cannon material without including extra mystical concepts to the form. Just simply an evolved form of super sayian 4...

  • @adrianlencina3407
    @adrianlencina3407 5 лет назад

    Eyes closed fighting shenron ultra instinct confirmed years ago

  • @egg9707
    @egg9707 2 года назад

    The power level would be in the middle of ultra instinct omen and mastered ultra instinct , i guess

    • @_Yombo
      @_Yombo 2 года назад

      Nope

  • @sym_riot1276
    @sym_riot1276 3 года назад +1

    Idk maybe a 4.1

  • @majidaljaburi7870
    @majidaljaburi7870 6 лет назад

    I love super saiyan 5 and I wish it was canon maybe we can see it in the new movie

  • @nibbaturtle3340
    @nibbaturtle3340 6 лет назад

    Give us Ultra Instinct Farmer w/ Shotgun

  • @AceTheBatHound99
    @AceTheBatHound99 6 лет назад +1

    No no Chuck, In Maliks New Age Goku did absorb the god essence, he just didn't train with whis, so he never learned how to use it beyond that ritual

  • @mastersourcream7267
    @mastersourcream7267 11 месяцев назад

    Two things
    1: i do think Grade 3 is stronger than Grade 4 since Cell clearly states Trunks surpassed him in raw strength.
    So id say Grade 3 is 1500 times base and grade 4 is 1000 times base.
    2: If Super Saiyan 5 has full power and ultra power state than its multiplyers are most likely this.
    Grade 1: 10 times SS4 or 80 million times base.
    Grade 2 or fp: 800 million
    Grade 3 or ufp: 8 billion.

  • @peterlane7128
    @peterlane7128 6 лет назад +34

    blue still stomps no effort

    • @bluefacebaby4167
      @bluefacebaby4167 5 лет назад +5

      Doubt

    • @peterlane7128
      @peterlane7128 5 лет назад +4

      razor dragon he gives the highest multiplier at several million. well.... SSB ranges somewhere in the billions as a multiplyer, SethTheProgrammer did a video on it a ways back.

    • @peterlane7128
      @peterlane7128 5 лет назад +4

      razor dragon actually on one of chuck's own videos, SSB is somewhere around 51 QUADRILLION x base. that's a difference similar to a grizzly bear vs Galactus.

    • @peterlane7128
      @peterlane7128 5 лет назад +3

      Elizabeth Smith悪名高い悪魔の定規 you are factually wrong. chuck's video is called ssj4 goku vs ssb goku (super vs gt) and seth's is called super saiyan blue vs super saiyan 4.
      Also, your feelings on the looks of the transformations does not change the fact that ssb as a transformation absolutely slaps 4 and 5 simultaneously.

    • @peterlane7128
      @peterlane7128 5 лет назад

      The New Patriot "goku did fight off against beerus but he did not take the god ki into himself"
      so... how do you figure?

  • @bluefacebaby4167
    @bluefacebaby4167 5 лет назад

    www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/extreme-battle-collection-round-02-toriyama-qa/
    How was the scouter born?
    I thought that if strength and enemy position were shown through numbers, then it would be easy to understand for both the enemy characters and the readers.
    Did you decide upon the balance of each characters’ strength beforehand?
    I had decided it to a certain extent, but it would constantly change as I kept drawing.
    In the creators own words.