What I am annoyed about is the 5090 being the only one to get a VRAM capacity increase. The 5070 and 5080 seem to be sticking to 12GB and 16GB. It would be nice if the 5070 had 16GB and the 5080 had 20GB. 12GB and 16GB on a 70 class and 80 class GPU in 2025 is pathetic.
Nvidia's competition is so wounded right now that they have an emotional monopoly on gaming enthusiasts. Even though channels like this one do a good job of trying to drum up true competition between teams RED GREEN and BLUE, Nvidia knows all y'all are about to bend the knee, take the 12, and say thank you. I think I might play Russian Roulette with a Battlemage card. Cross your fingers and toes.
What i love about 1440p is that dpi scaling is not necessary on a 27" screen. Pure native real estate. It really is the sweetspot in horsepower to drive versus fidelity.
The thing I appreciate in my old age (relatively speaking) is playing at 4K 120hz with DLSS turned on and my GPU is doing the work of 1080p while it looks almost better than native 4K.
Because there isn't much of a difference. Most of the time playing at 4k is a net-loss, unless you really can't tell the difference between 60 or 120fps which is ACTUALLY perceivable.
@Wahinies just because it is native doesn't mean it is better. 4K with 150% scaling looks so much better than 1440p for desktop usage. Text looks incredibly crisp. I had forgotten how pixelated 1440p looks in comparison when I looked at the 1440p monitor I gave away to my dad.
@@eduardomartin8510 100% correct, I laugh at people that say they can tell between 70 fps and 120 fps. when in reality it's the Hz. or refresh rate that messes with their eyes. You can tell who knows and who has no idea what they are talking about.
@@dvlx8453 as much as I would love for that to be reality, I do think you're on a fair amount of copium there. Sadly a majority of gamers seem completely unwilling to even consider anything aside from Nvidia. People get extremely stuck on their "favourite" brands. - It's why people are still buying Intel CPUs, even now.
@@R4d1o4ct1v3_ You say while ignoring the fact that AMD chips are holding all top ten spots on Amazon sales over Intel. It kind of detracts from your point with that context.
This time they just downgraded the silicon instead of downgrading the naming. Plenty of good 80 series cards were 103 dies. The problem is the 103 die has never been less than half of the cores of a 102 die. That’s crazy. I’m willing to bet that the super refresh for this generation will be the swap over to 3gb vram chips, and the 5070S will become an 18gb card and 24gb for the 5080S.
@@MechAdv pretty sure that's the plan. Those 3GB chips aren't ready until next year so Nvidia are doing an early launch with knee-capped cards to begin with, then launching the real 5000 series next spring/summer with (like you said) 24GB 5080s, and 18GB 5070s.
I think you mean 5080ti is 4080, 5070ti is 4070, 5060ti is 4060ti. The. The 5080 will be an even slighter performance gain with framegen 2.0. And the 5080 ti super will be and even slighter gain, still slower than a 4090 and an extra 2gb ram for total 18gb 😂 They won't want 5090 to effect 4090 stupid insane price anytime soon, or 5090, effecting potential servers buying a $20k 48gb vram card.
No, we don't want AMD to do anything. Too many people think Radeon exists solely to make their nVidia GPUs cheaper. It's time for AMD to sit back and watch gamers revolt against nVidia, reminding them "you voted with your wallets, this is what you get."
@K31TH3R People uniting against common evil yeah not gonna happen. There will be an online outrage and then people will continue buying stuff from Nvidia. Also professionals whose livelihood depends on these GPU's simply don't have an alternative with AMD abandoning the enthusiast market.
@@K31TH3R Too many "need the newest thing" consumers out there. People who just mindlessly consume and get excited for the next thing. These are the same people still going to see the new Marvel movies despite the decline in quality.
AMD has no plan to have a high end GPU with radeon 8000 because they couldn't make one that was worthwile with the current architecture. The top radeon 8000 GPU will most likely be a 8800XT. i give radeon 10 years before AMD shuts down the division. They simply can't last. people have spoken, they don't want radeon cards.
@@GASTBF Honestly, I don't even consider Amd if I am shopping for a high end gpu but I expect them to have good midrange and budget offerings. The 7000 series was really underwhelming. Nvidia is already screwing over customers as it is, a team green monopoly will be an absolute nightmare.
@@Chrissi33004 Probably because the 3060 had 12GB VRAM, so a 5070 having 12GB is actually pathetic. 12GB VRAM is basically what should have been 5050 territory by this point.
how is it unbelievable? there are cheaper 16GB GPUs from AMD right now, that will run games just fine. just without proper RTX. But RTX is overrated i want my FPS as high as possible without relying on upscaling. A radeon 6800 non xt is an absolute bargain if you can get one below MSRP
@@GASTBF AMD cards are basically unusable for Unreal Engine 5 games. Upscaling is required and FSR is literally unusable it looks so bad. Constant flickering and shimmering is so distracting I cant even play games that require upscaling with my 6950xt.
Nvidias prices hurt every component maker. It causes people to hang on to their current rig way longer than usual. My 2080ti is looking real nice being already paid for.
Ayyy a fellow 2080ti-er! I'm with you, I'm getting my money's worth especially considering I thought THIS card was expensive when I bought it, now compared to these new card prices it was basically just priced as mid-range... Which is insane to say when you're paying $1300+ for a GPU 🥴
Still on my regular 2070 from 2018. It is getting shredded now by the new games . But 7 years nearly and runs well. I wanted to upgrade this gem but man. It’s hard ::
So, as a 1070 owner looking to upgrade soon, what would you guys suggest? Is the 20 series still competitive to upgrade to 1440p, or should I look to getting a 30 series or even go AMD (I'm looking to stay in there AM4 platform and upgrade my 3600 to a 5700x3d based on Paul's CPU video)?
@@SHMITGAMINGINC wish I could, don't have the funds unless I save for at least a year (married with children does that). Would you recommend an AMD card as I don't have to have a ray tracing
@@mrwpg Ok first of all what I wrote was meant to be funny. Secondly... I'm the first one to say that an Nvidia card that is $500-$600 with 12GB vram is a joke in 2024/2025. However I do believe that these cards are a long term investment when buying them. They are for people who currently have a 4 year old card in their system and wish to upgrade to something more modern and powerful... not for someone who just bought a card 12 month ago. My main point is that when buying a card regardless if it's 200 or 600 dollars, it is a long term investment that you should not need to worry about upgrading anytime soon. Sometimes I spend more money on a 4 day vacation than I would on a graphic card that would last me 3 years. It's all about priorities in life
@@Ladioz 600-1k is fair as a future proofing investment with current inflation but Nvidia's profits show very clearly they are ripping people off. AMD are getting similar performance for half the price, which makes them an even better investment, especialyy with consoles using AMD likely resulting in better optimised PC ports.
@@mrwpg nvidia's profits have very little do to with consumer graphics cards. they wouldnt be getting sued if they made all their money that way. no, video card sales is what had nvidia at 40$ a share. they blew up with AI chips for industrial use. Buy AMD or Intel if nvidia is so marked up.
"These RTX 5070 and 5070 Ti specs are unbelievably bad" - Fixed it. Also, how will the 5090D work? It's power is limited to the 4090D levels, so as time passes, it'll be pegged to that and fall further down the product stack. At some point it will be below a 60 level card - despite the name on the sticker.
Don't all cards fall down the product stack as time goes on? All halo products are eventually outshined by mainstream offerings. Remember the Titan cards? Titan and Titan Black came out in what... 2013-2014? Then in 2016 we got a mainstream GTX 1060 that offerred equivalent or better gaming performance at 1/3 of the price and 1/2 the power consumption.
4090D was a way to sell a 4090 into Chynah that dodged US govt sanctions which imposed a performance cap. "5090D" I assume would have to be under the same cap so will be gimped as f compared to the even more powerful 5090 But if Nvidia are ripping off the chinese with this naming scheme who really cares? I just hope there's not an easy fix to restore full power like a vbios flash once it's in chynah. eff the sissypee.
So what? Did the 3060 a low/mid tier card ever reqch its 12gb limit with playable conditions? No it didnt. It was a 1080p card and it would have been fine with 10gb
People buy Nvidia so Nvidia does not need to improve! Nvidia market share did go up from 86% to 88% with 4000 series! So people are more than happy with Nvidia products!
I have to stop watching tech news and stop thinking about upgrades. Just going to ride my 3080 into the dirt, as well as the rest of my rig. I just can't do it anymore.
Of course it is. The real money is now on AI GPUs, it's obvious they would shift the whole consumer product line down and use the actually good silicon to produce the AI stuff.
Hey Paul, I just wanted to say it’s amazing to see you still going strong on RUclips after all these years. This news format is fantastic-straight to the point without all the extra fluff others tend to add. I love your fun, sharp, and positive vibe, plus the clever little puns! Everything feels so fresh and enjoyable. Keep it up!
idk it kinda seems a little bit too tall in my opinion to be an old tabletop horizontal retro style PC case. remember that people used to place their CRT's on top of these horizontal cases to save desk space (which was originally the standard of how computers were used before the tower cases became the norm) so i do have mixed feelings about this silverstone chasis, i've been looking for a neat beige retro-throwback pc case for my retro emulation machine, but this one just seems proportionally not quite accurate lol
I know and much to my surprise except for the color (beige) that case would have integrated beautifully into my home entertainment center and it looks big enough to easily handle a 7900 xtx or a 4080. The only question that I have for that case is how is the air flow.
We all know, we can watch any or all of the hyped promotion nonsense, yet in the flesh we often scratch our heads and theink ''im just not seeing it''?. My 3090 can still do it all flawlessly, and my 4090 hasn't even broke a sweat yet, so NO GPU's for a few yrs.
@@davewills148 me im sitting on a 2070! but im on wuxga 100hz monitor so even the 12gb vram will be ok for that! and finally getting 100hz constant ish will be nice!
While I do agree that it is too little, the saving grace might ironically be the fact that NVidia has such a dominant market share... It will force game makers to ensure their games run with lower memory requirements.
@@Timppa99I disagree, with how 1440p is still a growing segment and will inevitably take over 1080p, you can only compress data such as textures so much until data decompression takes away a significant amount of processing power. The main problem is that AMD is completely leaving the high end GPU market which removes all pressure from Nvidia to create progress in the market. This will be intel core quadcores for a decade all over again until a competitor disrupts Nvidia's horsing around.
my 6700xt has 20 gig VRAM, that's a 3y old GPU. 5080 should have 24gig. But yeah, i mean even my low end gpu use 10gig-12gig in some games.. How is 16gig gonna be future proofed?
@@Timppa99 except we already see reality not living up to that idea - check the top ten of steam hardware survey and compare that to today's unoptimized games. then weeb quietly into your keyboard.
@@Fluskar if its MSRP is going to be 1900$, then realistically it will be 2700-2900$. the 4090's MSRP was 1600$ but you would be very lucky to find a 4090 for anywhere below 2200$.
If RTX 5070 Ti will be too expensive then I'm getting RTX 4070 Ti Super. Looking forward to upgrade from Radeon RX 7800 XT. Before that I had GTX 1060. I finally want to experience the power of an RTX card with DLSS and superior ray tracing and AI capabilities. I'm done with Radeon.
He does see it... he reads a lot if not most comments :) he might not respond but still.. I've seen replies and things on comments days after the videos came out...
I gave up on Nvidia and bought a 7900xtx. I will forever miss the 1080 Ti days when it was all about absolute pure Raster performance rather than useless raytracing and fake AI resolutions.
Did the same at the start of this year, knowing that AMD wouldn't bring a flagship card out with its next generation and NVIDIA was going to screw people on price and VRAM. I hope that by the time I need a new GPU, Intel's GPUs will have matured enough to bring some strong competition to AMD and NVIDIA. That 24gb and its rasterization performance should last awhile. That might be idle hope though, seeing how the GPU market has been for the last couple of years.
Amazon treats its personnel like shit and doesn't provide dividends to any shareholders. It's a black hole for your money. Please support your local computer shops instead.
4:25 who the heck is paying MORE for a 4000 card with 5000 right around the corner? You’d think the 4000 cards would be cheaper now due to people waiting.
I wish nVidia would do something like this for the entire RTX-5000 series: 32 GB (512-bit) - RTX 5090/5090 D 28 GB (448-bit) - RTX 5080/5080 Ti 24 GB (384-bit) - RTX 5070/5070 Ti 20 GB (320-bit) - RTX 5060/5060 Ti 16 GB (256-bit) - RTX 5050/5050 Ti
that is pretty stupid imo, the memory bandwidth with gddr7 at these bus widths would be a waste for any card below the 5070ti (256 bit gddr7 already outspeeds the 4090s bandwidth) a lineup like this would make more sense: 48GB (512-bit) - RTX 5090 TI (3gb modules) 32 GB (512-bit) - RTX 5090/5090 D 24 GB (384-bit) - RTX 5080 Ti 20 GB (320-bit) - RTX 5080/5070ti super 16 GB (256-bit) - RTX 5070/5070 Ti (maybe a 5060ti super as well) 12/16 GB (192-bit) - RTX 5060/5060 Ti (maybe 5060ti gets 3gb modules so 16gb) 12 GB (128-bit) - RTX 5050/5050 Ti (3gb modules)
I still have and use my Steam controller, infact I picked up 4 extras when Amazon sold off the last of the stock at $5 each, I had expected that to be a lifetime supply given the steamdeck was a long ways off. I will say, recently there's been a lot more profiles set up for old and new games for the Steam controller, it's already much easier to use and works perfectly with the Steamdeck as well. Looking forward to the second one!
The fucked up thing is, that people in the comments will say: "oh no Nvidia bad and greedy", but then happily buy their overpriced garbage GPUs. You deserve all the hate in the world if you are that person.
I would happily have not been "that person" and bought a laptop with a 7900M (and a 16 core Ryzen), if Alienware made more than a run of seventeen of them at Black Friday last year, and they had a screen above complete-garbage tier. Unfortunately I had no choice. Yes the 4060 is garbage but it was the sweet spot as a holdover until something better came long or I gave up gaming altogether and the 4080M would have been even more garbage at double the price. And it was also heavily discounted, I got the same silicon (24C i9 + 4060) for cheaper than the retail prices of just those 2 parts and it does the job perfectly even with the CPU gimped to 100W
Don't know why one would believe the specs are unbelievable when we already know the price will be sky high. They have to produce something at what has become these insane price points for mid tier.
I have a feeling that the 5000 series will be a completely underwhelming thing besides the 5090. Because Nvidia simply has no reason to make any cards inbetween a 5070 and 5090 that would get anywhere close. AMD is struggling, and i have a feeling Intel will never catch up before being axed.
intel is not going to axe - at worst, they will just go iGPU only once those can satisfy low-end AND mid-tier shoppers in two mobile gens or thereabouts. their most recent mobile part shows that idea to not to be far-fetched, and AMD is not to far behind them (if you also consider batter life and non gaming). I think we will get AT LEAST one more since Celestial is already in the works right now, and the GPU's that launch this December will likely sell enough even if they are driver wise ok (anything is better than alchemist launch lol)
Historically the ti's only come out after the other cards have been out at least a year, however Nvidia also didn't have a 4080ti so I assume they're just getting rid of it, to force people to buy 5090s.
I'm more interested in Pauls' backyard landscaping project than things I have no hope of actually buying. Please give us another backyard project video for those of who aren't rolling in filthy lucre.
I was going to get a different case, but I'm finally getting a horizontal and will be waiting for that case to drop. A modern update to one of the old horizontal cases is something I'd very much enjoy.
Hahaha...the 5070 Ti only has 400 more cuda than a 4070 Ti Super. Both have 16GB of ram...at most you might see a 3% to 4% performance difference. If they really wanted to make the 5070 Ti shine it should have 12k cuda and 24 GB. That would give you a decent jump in performance justifying the cost increase. Hell my 4070 Ti Super is a beast and it doesn't require 300W of power either.
In my opinion, as a gamer/streamer, the only GPU that is worth it is RTX 5070 Ti with 16 GB or maybe a lower priced RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB. The other lower GPUs have LoW VRAM and the 5090 is too expensive. 5080 is a scam with 16 GB.
If the next Steam controller doesn't force me to buy AA batteries, it's certainly a step in the right direction. Also, seriously guys, we need to have a talk about how consumers have a great deal of power in any market. If a company releases substandard products and charges a premium, you *stop buying the product* until they change. A 12GB 5070 Ti might be *good enough*, but is it actually worth the asking price? No. Same with a 8GB 5060. Yes, while AMD hasn't been competitive in the market in a long time, and their pricing is also problematic, Nvidia is by far the worst when it comes to value. In short, stop buying Nvidia's crap until they learn, because this willingness to give them premium dollar for minimal upgrades is one reason why we're in this moment in the first place.
Is Nvidia using VRam to force potential buyers into higher price categories? I only ask because, while I understand that this is in NO WAY a direct comparison, Intel's Arc 770 seemed to throw 16gb of VRam without giving it a second thought. What does adding VRam to a video card entail? Does that process justify the changes in price? 🤔Discuss.
I literally did the same thing. Saw the specs/pricing for the 50 series and bit the bullet. Sure, I paid a 100$ less than MSRP, TWO YEARS LATER (Indiana Jones included), but frame gen has been a nice feature.
A reminder that the 5070 is rumored to be at the performance level of a 4070 Ti Super - which has 16GB of VRAM and will likely age better, if not for the almost-fact that Nvidia will probably release some 50-series exclusive DLSS or something to make it look good.
@@gelul12 tbh there was, but ppl never appreciate AMD for whatever reason, rocking 6900XT since release (4 years), reliable card and drivers that still kicks any modern game till now
@@gelul12 But it is not the high end that makes up most of the marked. Also, there is not in the high end the problems are. Its in the mid-range and entry level.
The TDP for the 5090 looks insane, a 1,000W power supply might not even be enough anymore. I think just off the early leaks and depending on price, the 5070Ti is going to be the upgrade sweet spot. I'll be keeping a close eye on developments there, but still liking my oc'd RTX 3080 for now.
Same here. 8 year old 1080 in my PC, full new build incoming. Debating between the 4070Ti Super or the 7900 XTX. At the moment there is maybe 70 to 100 Euros between them in cost.
I went with the Asus TUF 7900XTX in my build and haven't regretted it. What it boils down to is price to performance, features and what you intend to do. Both offer similar features but Nvidia has always had the latest RT cores where AMD/Radeon has the previous generation of RT cores. Personally I view ray tracing as a gamic, eye candy that does not even contribute to the game and its just a excuse to charge more money. Going from a 1070ti to a 7900xtx was a little bit of a learning experience. But if you do decide to go with the 7900xtx and are coming from Nvidia be sure to use a dedicated driver remover software to completely remove all of the Nvidia drivers from your system before installing your 7900xtx and its drivers otherwise you have a very good chance of running into issues.
Honestly, it looks to be pretty underwhelming. I guess it all comes down to pricing. And we know that will be bad. Another generation to skip most likely. So, AMD, Intel....????
Last black Friday I retired my GTX 1080ti for a 7900XT. I'm impressed and loving AMD software. No driver issues from new games to old, modding, and emulation. I won't give Nvidia a dime anymore.
Intel is dead, they basically gutted their future GPU lineup, and AMD said no more high end cards. I recommend just not buying new games and stick to playing old games you haven't tried/bought yet.
@@StingyGeek I mean if they wanna do business, they could just target older platforms and focus on optimizing instead of making the latest and greatest the target. The only real issue is game devs themselves chasing photo-realistic fidelity, when they could just...chose not to.
@@futuza What "Realistic games" are actually fun to play? GTA 5 :Oline isn't realistic, it's got a massive player base compared to it's older GTA IV game that was realistic... This move to realistic is stupid no plays games cause they're realistic, they play them because they're fun & unrealistic.
Threadripper can draw that much power on Extreme over clocks too. The truth is that you would rarely get to 99% on both GPU's its usually pretty even set around 60% to 75%. Many people think this bad but it's actually just means your CPU bound (especially mGPU games that don't use drivers) or game code engine bound at its limit. Then people complain about scaling not being 100% even though dual CPUs were never 100% in scaling when they started to get better software that supposed them.
@@AstroBot-bc0213 You can still put multiple GPUs together to create an AI farm, the same way you mine with multiple. SLI was pretty much exclusively for 3D rendering and gaming.
Paul, is this some kind of creator side setting that you have activated? I usually have CC off on all videos. But every time I open one of yours the captions are turned back on.
Im moving all AMD for the first time im getting a 9900x and 7900xt currently building it now Nvidia has to up the Vram if they want to keep me I don't care about 4k I already moved back to 1440 p Hight to Ultra 1440 p 60 fps + is all I need and I believe this combo will achieve that
every few years i upgrade my pc and i'm right back to this community of paul's hardware, JayzTwoCents, the beautiful hair man. It's so wonderful to get all nerdy. I'm planning to get the ryzen 9 7900, i'll upgrading from gen 1 ryzen lol
If you treat the 90 series as a Titan Flagship+ model and base specs off of the 5080, the lineup is semi decent right now. Percentages line up with past generations (and even slightly better than the 10 series). Still need to see benchmarks between cards to know if there’s an improvement and I imagine there will be based on their server AI chips massive gains.
I never thought I'd have to say this but I don't see the sponsor link in your description 😂 I don't even get any results for Lexar even when I search the entire page (including comments)
Most brutally honest comment I've ever heard from a creator on RUclips begins at the one minute mark :D Thank You! Looking forward to lots of bug-eyed thumbnails and "We replaced our CPU Paste with Cheez-Wiz!" Videos....assuming LTT hasn't done that yet.....
5070 with 12 GB of VRAM? What an exciting age for graphics cards we live in ...
Nvidia are trolling I swear those cards will age like warm milk
is criminal, sadly people will clap like seals and buy it.
What I am annoyed about is the 5090 being the only one to get a VRAM capacity increase. The 5070 and 5080 seem to be sticking to 12GB and 16GB. It would be nice if the 5070 had 16GB and the 5080 had 20GB. 12GB and 16GB on a 70 class and 80 class GPU in 2025 is pathetic.
Nvidia's competition is so wounded right now that they have an emotional monopoly on gaming enthusiasts. Even though channels like this one do a good job of trying to drum up true competition between teams RED GREEN and BLUE, Nvidia knows all y'all are about to bend the knee, take the 12, and say thank you. I think I might play Russian Roulette with a Battlemage card. Cross your fingers and toes.
at least with Intel, the 12gb is for the basic, entry level stuff, not anything mid-tier, which will be 16gb. Lets home otherwise its great too
the only thing I appreciate about getting older is that my eyes don't notice the difference between 1440p and 4k
What i love about 1440p is that dpi scaling is not necessary on a 27" screen. Pure native real estate. It really is the sweetspot in horsepower to drive versus fidelity.
The thing I appreciate in my old age (relatively speaking) is playing at 4K 120hz with DLSS turned on and my GPU is doing the work of 1080p while it looks almost better than native 4K.
Because there isn't much of a difference. Most of the time playing at 4k is a net-loss, unless you really can't tell the difference between 60 or 120fps which is ACTUALLY perceivable.
@Wahinies just because it is native doesn't mean it is better. 4K with 150% scaling looks so much better than 1440p for desktop usage. Text looks incredibly crisp. I had forgotten how pixelated 1440p looks in comparison when I looked at the 1440p monitor I gave away to my dad.
@@eduardomartin8510 100% correct, I laugh at people that say they can tell between 70 fps and 120 fps. when in reality it's the Hz. or refresh rate that messes with their eyes. You can tell who knows and who has no idea what they are talking about.
Watch them release the 5060 with 8GB of VRAM and price it at like $500 again.
And those alone will sell more than AMD and Intels GPUs together!
😂
Yeah...pure clowns really 🤡🤡🤡
@@haukikannel
Yep, rants and whines won't make Nvidia listen.
@@fajaradi1223
So true!
Nvidia looks sale and market share numbers and those looks better each day!
Intel low end is gonna have 12gb in Battle mage
Both 5070 and 5070 Ti is supposed to be 5060 and 5060 Ti .
Nvidia is Scamming you
And those will sell extremely well!
So Nvidia is wery pleased by your service!
They're not even laughing at us anymore, just impatiently holding out a hand for our 'small' amounts of money.
@@haukikannel nah amd is closing rt gap with rdna4 as proven with ps5pro I doubt anyone would be buying nvidia under 600$ in upcoming gen
@@dvlx8453 as much as I would love for that to be reality, I do think you're on a fair amount of copium there. Sadly a majority of gamers seem completely unwilling to even consider anything aside from Nvidia. People get extremely stuck on their "favourite" brands. - It's why people are still buying Intel CPUs, even now.
@@R4d1o4ct1v3_ You say while ignoring the fact that AMD chips are holding all top ten spots on Amazon sales over Intel. It kind of detracts from your point with that context.
Same again, 5080 is 5070, 5070 is 5060, 5060 is 5050, nvidia knows human stupidity well.
Indeed.
They brought the laptop scheme to the desktop. So are they laptop versions now 2 levels down from where they should be?
This time they just downgraded the silicon instead of downgrading the naming. Plenty of good 80 series cards were 103 dies. The problem is the 103 die has never been less than half of the cores of a 102 die. That’s crazy. I’m willing to bet that the super refresh for this generation will be the swap over to 3gb vram chips, and the 5070S will become an 18gb card and 24gb for the 5080S.
@@MechAdv pretty sure that's the plan. Those 3GB chips aren't ready until next year so Nvidia are doing an early launch with knee-capped cards to begin with, then launching the real 5000 series next spring/summer with (like you said) 24GB 5080s, and 18GB 5070s.
I think you mean 5080ti is 4080, 5070ti is 4070, 5060ti is 4060ti. The. The 5080 will be an even slighter performance gain with framegen 2.0. And the 5080 ti super will be and even slighter gain, still slower than a 4090 and an extra 2gb ram for total 18gb 😂
They won't want 5090 to effect 4090 stupid insane price anytime soon, or 5090, effecting potential servers buying a $20k 48gb vram card.
*Pokes with a stick* , AMD do something.
No, we don't want AMD to do anything. Too many people think Radeon exists solely to make their nVidia GPUs cheaper. It's time for AMD to sit back and watch gamers revolt against nVidia, reminding them "you voted with your wallets, this is what you get."
@K31TH3R People uniting against common evil yeah not gonna happen. There will be an online outrage and then people will continue buying stuff from Nvidia. Also professionals whose livelihood depends on these GPU's simply don't have an alternative with AMD abandoning the enthusiast market.
@@K31TH3R Too many "need the newest thing" consumers out there. People who just mindlessly consume and get excited for the next thing. These are the same people still going to see the new Marvel movies despite the decline in quality.
AMD has no plan to have a high end GPU with radeon 8000 because they couldn't make one that was worthwile with the current architecture. The top radeon 8000 GPU will most likely be a 8800XT. i give radeon 10 years before AMD shuts down the division. They simply can't last. people have spoken, they don't want radeon cards.
@@GASTBF Honestly, I don't even consider Amd if I am shopping for a high end gpu but I expect them to have good midrange and budget offerings. The 7000 series was really underwhelming. Nvidia is already screwing over customers as it is, a team green monopoly will be an absolute nightmare.
It's definitely unbelievable for 12GB of VRAM
Everyone is talking about the 12GB Vram
Im just confused why no one is talking about how heavily cut down of a die it is
Man i want the old days back
@@Chrissi33004
Probably because the 3060 had 12GB VRAM, so a 5070 having 12GB is actually pathetic.
12GB VRAM is basically what should have been 5050 territory by this point.
how is it unbelievable? there are cheaper 16GB GPUs from AMD right now, that will run games just fine. just without proper RTX. But RTX is overrated i want my FPS as high as possible without relying on upscaling. A radeon 6800 non xt is an absolute bargain if you can get one below MSRP
@@GASTBF For AI
@@GASTBF AMD cards are basically unusable for Unreal Engine 5 games. Upscaling is required and FSR is literally unusable it looks so bad. Constant flickering and shimmering is so distracting I cant even play games that require upscaling with my 6950xt.
Nvidias prices hurt every component maker. It causes people to hang on to their current rig way longer than usual. My 2080ti is looking real nice being already paid for.
Ayyy a fellow 2080ti-er! I'm with you, I'm getting my money's worth especially considering I thought THIS card was expensive when I bought it, now compared to these new card prices it was basically just priced as mid-range... Which is insane to say when you're paying $1300+ for a GPU 🥴
Still on my regular 2070 from 2018. It is getting shredded now by the new games . But 7 years nearly and runs well. I wanted to upgrade this gem but man. It’s hard ::
So, as a 1070 owner looking to upgrade soon, what would you guys suggest? Is the 20 series still competitive to upgrade to 1440p, or should I look to getting a 30 series or even go AMD (I'm looking to stay in there AM4 platform and upgrade my 3600 to a 5700x3d based on Paul's CPU video)?
@@MordeKa0s Go 40....
@@SHMITGAMINGINC wish I could, don't have the funds unless I save for at least a year (married with children does that).
Would you recommend an AMD card as I don't have to have a ray tracing
Nvidia prices and subscription taxes are also unbelievable.
These things are for people who don't have kids or regularly go on vacations
@@Ladioz Where does it say that on the box... don't be so dumb with the weirdest fanboy excuse yet.
Fallacy is not a valid argument, try again.
@@mrwpg Ok first of all what I wrote was meant to be funny. Secondly... I'm the first one to say that an Nvidia card that is $500-$600 with 12GB vram is a joke in 2024/2025. However I do believe that these cards are a long term investment when buying them. They are for people who currently have a 4 year old card in their system and wish to upgrade to something more modern and powerful... not for someone who just bought a card 12 month ago. My main point is that when buying a card regardless if it's 200 or 600 dollars, it is a long term investment that you should not need to worry about upgrading anytime soon. Sometimes I spend more money on a 4 day vacation than I would on a graphic card that would last me 3 years. It's all about priorities in life
@@Ladioz 600-1k is fair as a future proofing investment with current inflation but Nvidia's profits show very clearly they are ripping people off.
AMD are getting similar performance for half the price, which makes them an even better investment, especialyy with consoles using AMD likely resulting in better optimised PC ports.
@@mrwpg nvidia's profits have very little do to with consumer graphics cards. they wouldnt be getting sued if they made all their money that way. no, video card sales is what had nvidia at 40$ a share. they blew up with AI chips for industrial use. Buy AMD or Intel if nvidia is so marked up.
"These RTX 5070 and 5070 Ti specs are unbelievably bad" - Fixed it.
Also, how will the 5090D work? It's power is limited to the 4090D levels, so as time passes, it'll be pegged to that and fall further down the product stack. At some point it will be below a 60 level card - despite the name on the sticker.
Thanks for fixing the thumbnail caption, I don’t need to watch now 😊
Don't all cards fall down the product stack as time goes on? All halo products are eventually outshined by mainstream offerings. Remember the Titan cards? Titan and Titan Black came out in what... 2013-2014? Then in 2016 we got a mainstream GTX 1060 that offerred equivalent or better gaming performance at 1/3 of the price and 1/2 the power consumption.
It is a way to sell broken 5090 chips as 5090D Instead of makin 5080ti!
= profit!
4090D was a way to sell a 4090 into Chynah that dodged US govt sanctions which imposed a performance cap.
"5090D" I assume would have to be under the same cap so will be gimped as f compared to the even more powerful 5090
But if Nvidia are ripping off the chinese with this naming scheme who really cares? I just hope there's not an easy fix to restore full power like a vbios flash once it's in chynah. eff the sissypee.
That mom joke was out of pocket :)
3:22 this caught me off guard XD
Lol hi Nik 😄
My mom doesn't like the biggest hardware , she likes efficiency and ergonomics. 😂
She laughs in 1080ti. *ROBUST*
Beer through Nose......... Yes its almost 12 midday here in Oz..........
3060 has 12gb and now years later the 5070 will have 12gb!! Progress or lack of competition?
So what? Did the 3060 a low/mid tier card ever reqch its 12gb limit with playable conditions? No it didnt.
It was a 1080p card and it would have been fine with 10gb
People buy Nvidia so Nvidia does not need to improve!
Nvidia market share did go up from 86% to 88% with 4000 series! So people are more than happy with Nvidia products!
Great logic, I bet you'd buy the 6070 12gb in 2 years time!
@@thesongoflunch Lmao the justification for mediocrity at a high price point is wild.
@pj8227, 2060 had 12GB version as well. Nvidia is all about planned obsolescence
CUDA cores going down exponentially down the stack can't be a good thing.
i dont think you understand what exponentially means
*logarithmically I think he means
At least 5070 has more cores than 4070, which has the same ammount as 3070.
@zbigniew2628 40 series had a huge frequency jump though which made up for it. That's why the 4070ti was on par with the 3090ti
I have to stop watching tech news and stop thinking about upgrades. Just going to ride my 3080 into the dirt, as well as the rest of my rig. I just can't do it anymore.
why would you want to upgrade a 3080!?
still have a 1070, i want something with 16gb. nothing good.
you’d have to upgrade to like a 4080 for a meaningful upgrade
@@ItzYell0w33that’s the path I took. If I do it again, I’ll be able to afford an RTX 8050 when the 9000 series arrives.
@@xv6701 Gonna fact check that!
verdict: TRUE
@chieften9887 because when you upgrade your monitor (resolution), your GPU gets neferd. By 3️⃣0️⃣%😊
Why 5080 still 16GB with that price range? GB202 to GB203 Cuda cores is literally a half if that true wut???
Yep, they are going to sell the 5070/70 Ti as the "5080", same case as the 4080 12GB that ended up being a 4070 Ti, not a new thing coming from them.
Of course it is. The real money is now on AI GPUs, it's obvious they would shift the whole consumer product line down and use the actually good silicon to produce the AI stuff.
I have no idea. It's such a weird paradigm.
The Specs may be unbelievable, but that nothing compared to the price.
Happy Thanksgiving Joe and Paul and everyone🎉!
Same to you Frederick! 🙏
🎉thanks bud
Hey Paul, I just wanted to say it’s amazing to see you still going strong on RUclips after all these years. This news format is fantastic-straight to the point without all the extra fluff others tend to add. I love your fun, sharp, and positive vibe, plus the clever little puns! Everything feels so fresh and enjoyable. Keep it up!
That Silverstone Chassis is peak nostalgia.
idk it kinda seems a little bit too tall in my opinion to be an old tabletop horizontal retro style PC case.
remember that people used to place their CRT's on top of these horizontal cases to save desk space (which was originally the standard of how computers were used before the tower cases became the norm)
so i do have mixed feelings about this silverstone chasis, i've been looking for a neat beige retro-throwback pc case for my retro emulation machine, but this one just seems proportionally not quite accurate lol
I know and much to my surprise except for the color (beige) that case would have integrated beautifully into my home entertainment center and it looks big enough to easily handle a 7900 xtx or a 4080. The only question that I have for that case is how is the air flow.
The spec cliff is insane between the 5090 and 5080!! but i bet the price gap will be not so noticable!
No bet.
We all know, we can watch any or all of the hyped promotion nonsense, yet in the flesh we often scratch our heads and theink ''im just not seeing it''?. My 3090 can still do it all flawlessly, and my 4090 hasn't even broke a sweat yet, so NO GPU's for a few yrs.
@@davewills148 me im sitting on a 2070! but im on wuxga 100hz monitor so even the 12gb vram will be ok for that! and finally getting 100hz constant ish will be nice!
5080 only having 16GB is a joke if that turns out to be accurate.
While I do agree that it is too little, the saving grace might ironically be the fact that NVidia has such a dominant market share... It will force game makers to ensure their games run with lower memory requirements.
@@Timppa99I disagree, with how 1440p is still a growing segment and will inevitably take over 1080p, you can only compress data such as textures so much until data decompression takes away a significant amount of processing power. The main problem is that AMD is completely leaving the high end GPU market which removes all pressure from Nvidia to create progress in the market. This will be intel core quadcores for a decade all over again until a competitor disrupts Nvidia's horsing around.
my 6700xt has 20 gig VRAM, that's a 3y old GPU. 5080 should have 24gig.
But yeah, i mean even my low end gpu use 10gig-12gig in some games.. How is 16gig gonna be future proofed?
@@Arcadiez But 6700xt has only 12 GB of VRAM... If you had one, you would know.
@@Timppa99 except we already see reality not living up to that idea - check the top ten of steam hardware survey and compare that to today's unoptimized games. then weeb quietly into your keyboard.
4090's are still like $2,300 - $2,500...How much is a 5090 going to be? $3,000? YIKES.
Imagine the pricing of AiBs
Nvidia sheep can't wait to pay it.
rumors floating around that its gonna be $1900... so its probably gonna be $2500 online everywhere ..
@@Epic3032 EVGA was right all along.
@@Fluskar if its MSRP is going to be 1900$, then realistically it will be 2700-2900$.
the 4090's MSRP was 1600$ but you would be very lucky to find a 4090 for anywhere below 2200$.
If RTX 5070 Ti will be too expensive then I'm getting RTX 4070 Ti Super. Looking forward to upgrade from Radeon RX 7800 XT. Before that I had GTX 1060. I finally want to experience the power of an RTX card with DLSS and superior ray tracing and AI capabilities. I'm done with Radeon.
I won't be touching the new GPUs until they launch the 18GB 5070.
I appreciate your wit Paul, you won't see this, but thank you.
not if i like it
We see it 👍🏽
He does see it... he reads a lot if not most comments :) he might not respond but still..
I've seen replies and things on comments days after the videos came out...
The power usage here is crazy.
Unbelievably cut down. Keep you stuff Nvidia.
The price is even more unbelievable.
If the 5070 comes with 12GB VRAM and 192bit bus imma lose my fkin mind.
At this point Nvidia is begging us to buy AMD.
I gave up on Nvidia and bought a 7900xtx. I will forever miss the 1080 Ti days when it was all about absolute pure Raster performance rather than useless raytracing and fake AI resolutions.
It's not fake 😂
Look at the facts, and don't talk. Why are extra frames fake? I mean it works...
Raytracing and dlss is awsome
Worst part is unoptimized games starting to rely on Frame generation as a "requirement" for achieving playable fps.
RT is playing the game of on off on, just to see if it's doing anything. Accurate shadows is all that is really needed.
Did the same at the start of this year, knowing that AMD wouldn't bring a flagship card out with its next generation and NVIDIA was going to screw people on price and VRAM. I hope that by the time I need a new GPU, Intel's GPUs will have matured enough to bring some strong competition to AMD and NVIDIA. That 24gb and its rasterization performance should last awhile.
That might be idle hope though, seeing how the GPU market has been for the last couple of years.
Got an hour long commute every Sunday. The Tech News has become a staple in my morning routine. Right up there with my coffee.
Nvidia will price this in to orbit, and scalpers will send it to another planet.
Amazon treats its personnel like shit and doesn't provide dividends to any shareholders. It's a black hole for your money.
Please support your local computer shops instead.
My local shops might as well be scalpers the way the prices are! I’ll stick to Amazon
20 years too late. Amazon already drove them out of husiness
@@Chris-yc3mm Demand better, you have democracy. Competition is healthy according to every American, no?
@@OkiDingo Amazon makes you pay a hefty debt from the future. The hidden cost is disgusting
@@Celis.CAmerican democracy is a myth. What are you 12?
The cold mom joke really got me. Thanks again, Paul, for these
Thanks for the news Paul ! I hope you and your family have a Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy the family time 😁.
Colorful's missed opportunity - Meowtherboard
need to also make a RAM kitten
We're thankful for you guys, too! Have a great holiday!
Great work shining light on 50 series GPU's. This video was needed.
WAITED 2 YEARS FOR THIS SHT
😂
Hahaha 😅
If you have a RTX 4090 just skip this nonsense. That's what I'm doing
@ I have a 4080 super and doing what you doing lol
@@ajanimandara9048 yes sir can't get played by the materialistic chase. Let's go 🤘
Nice intro. Made me remember why I like to receive my tech news from guys named Paul
Paul that intro says it all - I haven’t even filmed in the last 2 weeks due to the lack of events. Love your channel Paul !
5090 with a 600 watt TGP...I know how i'm heating my family room next winter.
How much performance will be left on the table using these in pcie4.0? Will this need an mb upgrade or will it be negligible?
4:25 who the heck is paying MORE for a 4000 card with 5000 right around the corner? You’d think the 4000 cards would be cheaper now due to people waiting.
i just bought the 4080 super last sunday and ill be getting 5070 ti when it releases
AMA
Happy Thanksgiving to you all too!
I wish nVidia would do something like this for the entire RTX-5000 series:
32 GB (512-bit) - RTX 5090/5090 D
28 GB (448-bit) - RTX 5080/5080 Ti
24 GB (384-bit) - RTX 5070/5070 Ti
20 GB (320-bit) - RTX 5060/5060 Ti
16 GB (256-bit) - RTX 5050/5050 Ti
That would be logical &
meaning that you wouldn't need to upgrade when the rtx 6000 comes out
that makes them lose money.
@@kevinerbs2778 Most people do not upgrade their GPU every generation.
that is pretty stupid imo, the memory bandwidth with gddr7 at these bus widths would be a waste for any card below the 5070ti (256 bit gddr7 already outspeeds the 4090s bandwidth) a lineup like this would make more sense:
48GB (512-bit) - RTX 5090 TI (3gb modules)
32 GB (512-bit) - RTX 5090/5090 D
24 GB (384-bit) - RTX 5080 Ti
20 GB (320-bit) - RTX 5080/5070ti super
16 GB (256-bit) - RTX 5070/5070 Ti (maybe a 5060ti super as well)
12/16 GB (192-bit) - RTX 5060/5060 Ti (maybe 5060ti gets 3gb modules so 16gb)
12 GB (128-bit) - RTX 5050/5050 Ti (3gb modules)
@@stillmomsI’m still on my 1070 😂 Great card
Happy Holiday Bro!
Happy Thanksgiving Joe and Paul!
Thanks bud
The cards are unbelievable in spec, but the prices will be unimaginable!
I still have and use my Steam controller, infact I picked up 4 extras when Amazon sold off the last of the stock at $5 each, I had expected that to be a lifetime supply given the steamdeck was a long ways off. I will say, recently there's been a lot more profiles set up for old and new games for the Steam controller, it's already much easier to use and works perfectly with the Steamdeck as well. Looking forward to the second one!
Has it been confirmed that the 50 series will not be using the 12VHPWR connection?
0:53 Nooooo... ARTAX!!! Too soon Paul, too soon! 😭
I'm just here to call out John Linneman's former desk at 8:20.
Ill wait for the 5070 Ti Super OC FE
The fucked up thing is, that people in the comments will say: "oh no Nvidia bad and greedy", but then happily buy their overpriced garbage GPUs.
You deserve all the hate in the world if you are that person.
I would happily have not been "that person" and bought a laptop with a 7900M (and a 16 core Ryzen), if Alienware made more than a run of seventeen of them at Black Friday last year, and they had a screen above complete-garbage tier. Unfortunately I had no choice. Yes the 4060 is garbage but it was the sweet spot as a holdover until something better came long or I gave up gaming altogether and the 4080M would have been even more garbage at double the price. And it was also heavily discounted, I got the same silicon (24C i9 + 4060) for cheaper than the retail prices of just those 2 parts and it does the job perfectly even with the CPU gimped to 100W
@greebj "no choice" - yes you poor consumer can't decide to simply not buy a product
It's the only product that offers what I want.
If AMD would step up their game I'd happily buy them instead
That’s extreme to say. As shit as Nvidia is, there are features that make their card an instant buy over AMD for some people. Non negotiable stuff.
Don't know why one would believe the specs are unbelievable when we already know the price will be sky high. They have to produce something at what has become these insane price points for mid tier.
I have a feeling that the 5000 series will be a completely underwhelming thing besides the 5090. Because Nvidia simply has no reason to make any cards inbetween a 5070 and 5090 that would get anywhere close. AMD is struggling, and i have a feeling Intel will never catch up before being axed.
No competition that's why.
I expect Prices to be better. They need to be. (Wishful thinking)
@@flimermithrandir My next PC will be a mini PC with components of pricing skyrocketing
AMD isn’t struggling😂
intel is not going to axe - at worst, they will just go iGPU only once those can satisfy low-end AND mid-tier shoppers in two mobile gens or thereabouts. their most recent mobile part shows that idea to not to be far-fetched, and AMD is not to far behind them (if you also consider batter life and non gaming). I think we will get AT LEAST one more since Celestial is already in the works right now, and the GPU's that launch this December will likely sell enough even if they are driver wise ok (anything is better than alchemist launch lol)
Those cuda cores on the 5090 are crazy
wtf happened to the 80ti? was that just dropped? so they could upcharge the base 80 card?
That's stage 2 of the gouge when the "refresher" takes place with the Supers.
Historically the ti's only come out after the other cards have been out at least a year, however Nvidia also didn't have a 4080ti so I assume they're just getting rid of it, to force people to buy 5090s.
@@futuza seems like it. and for them to have an excuse to increase the price of the base 80 card.
@@fx-studio the super is not a ti.
@@diddykong9366 Its numbers Bro, they make it up as they go along.
I'm more interested in Pauls' backyard landscaping project than things I have no hope of actually buying. Please give us another backyard project video for those of who aren't rolling in filthy lucre.
Low Vram? Seems believable for nvidia
I was going to get a different case, but I'm finally getting a horizontal and will be waiting for that case to drop. A modern update to one of the old horizontal cases is something I'd very much enjoy.
1:48 video actually starts.
Hahaha...the 5070 Ti only has 400 more cuda than a 4070 Ti Super. Both have 16GB of ram...at most you might see a 3% to 4% performance difference. If they really wanted to make the 5070 Ti shine it should have 12k cuda and 24 GB. That would give you a decent jump in performance justifying the cost increase. Hell my 4070 Ti Super is a beast and it doesn't require 300W of power either.
In my opinion, as a gamer/streamer, the only GPU that is worth it is RTX 5070 Ti with 16 GB or maybe a lower priced RTX 4070 Ti Super 16 GB. The other lower GPUs have LoW VRAM and the 5090 is too expensive. 5080 is a scam with 16 GB.
the sweet spot
Great intro! you will make a very good script writer for films!
Your mom joke won it for me
If the next Steam controller doesn't force me to buy AA batteries, it's certainly a step in the right direction.
Also, seriously guys, we need to have a talk about how consumers have a great deal of power in any market. If a company releases substandard products and charges a premium, you *stop buying the product* until they change. A 12GB 5070 Ti might be *good enough*, but is it actually worth the asking price? No. Same with a 8GB 5060. Yes, while AMD hasn't been competitive in the market in a long time, and their pricing is also problematic, Nvidia is by far the worst when it comes to value. In short, stop buying Nvidia's crap until they learn, because this willingness to give them premium dollar for minimal upgrades is one reason why we're in this moment in the first place.
Is Nvidia using VRam to force potential buyers into higher price categories? I only ask because, while I understand that this is in NO WAY a direct comparison, Intel's Arc 770 seemed to throw 16gb of VRam without giving it a second thought. What does adding VRam to a video card entail? Does that process justify the changes in price? 🤔Discuss.
Probably they want to stop consumers or corporates buying GPUs for AI tasks that need a ton of vram
... so that they have to buy the server parts, priced in a way that a 4090 seems peanuts money.
Nvidia's main income source is selling/renting AI server hardware, they don't want you doing AI tasks at home without paying a subscription.
Great video 🙂
jensen huang should be in prison for fraud
Sunday morning: cup of tea and Paul’s HW news, such a great start of day 😉
I’m bought a 4080 super, I’m not dealing with the hassle of trying to get one of these minimal increased cards.
I'm sitting on a 1080Ti and have a feeling I might be able to squeeze another generation out of it after all.
I literally did the same thing. Saw the specs/pricing for the 50 series and bit the bullet. Sure, I paid a 100$ less than MSRP, TWO YEARS LATER (Indiana Jones included), but frame gen has been a nice feature.
@@Karackalsure thing, buddy! Have fun playing Minecraft for another couple of years on 1080p
haha. I just did the same thing. 4080 super should do just fine.
@@nikolowolokin Currently playing Star Citizen at 4K. And yes, the framerates are mostly bad and sometimes terrible. But it is what it is.
man, my 9800X3D and I are super excited to buy a next gen GPU on launch day. there's no possible way we'll be disappointed!
5080 should be 24gb and 5090 48gb.
No, it shouldn't. That's what you want but its not necessary.
@@thesongoflunchwith the price they will charge, his recommendation is right. Not necessary spec wise but you know what i mean
Maybe not 24gb, but at least 20gb! 16gb is a scam
You on 8k or something. 48gb is overkill for gaming.
@@yrh002b8I guarantee you most of the people buying a 5090 will not be using it for gaming. Those are discount AI cards.
A reminder that the 5070 is rumored to be at the performance level of a 4070 Ti Super - which has 16GB of VRAM and will likely age better, if not for the almost-fact that Nvidia will probably release some 50-series exclusive DLSS or something to make it look good.
the 4070 ti has 12gb vram
@Dempig oh sorry, I meant 4070 Ti Super.
Stop buying Ngreedia to solve GPU crisis, easy fix 🤷🏻♂
There is no alternative at the high end.
@@gelul12 tbh there was, but ppl never appreciate AMD for whatever reason, rocking 6900XT since release (4 years), reliable card and drivers that still kicks any modern game till now
@@gelul12 But it is not the high end that makes up most of the marked. Also, there is not in the high end the problems are. Its in the mid-range and entry level.
@ 2.5k gpus arnt an issue ?
The problem is across the board.
@@gelul12 Clearly you haven't looked at the specs of the 7900 XTX. If that's not high end, nothing is.
The TDP for the 5090 looks insane, a 1,000W power supply might not even be enough anymore.
I think just off the early leaks and depending on price, the 5070Ti is going to be the upgrade sweet spot.
I'll be keeping a close eye on developments there, but still liking my oc'd RTX 3080 for now.
you'll definitely need to go with a 1200W PSU
@@juggernaut316 Yeah probably, especially if your entire system is overclocked like mine, there's a power draw cost to that on top.
You have no one to blame but yourself. You keep buying this ridiculously priced shit so Nvidia keeps the prices high. Vote with your wallet.
Been thinking about getting a 7900XTX. Has 24GB of VRAM and holds up pretty well against the 4080.
Same here. 8 year old 1080 in my PC, full new build incoming.
Debating between the 4070Ti Super or the 7900 XTX. At the moment there is maybe 70 to 100 Euros between them in cost.
I went with the Asus TUF 7900XTX in my build and haven't regretted it. What it boils down to is price to performance, features and what you intend to do. Both offer similar features but Nvidia has always had the latest RT cores where AMD/Radeon has the previous generation of RT cores. Personally I view ray tracing as a gamic, eye candy that does not even contribute to the game and its just a excuse to charge more money.
Going from a 1070ti to a 7900xtx was a little bit of a learning experience. But if you do decide to go with the 7900xtx and are coming from Nvidia be sure to use a dedicated driver remover software to completely remove all of the Nvidia drivers from your system before installing your 7900xtx and its drivers otherwise you have a very good chance of running into issues.
Have one paired with a 5800x3d and dont feel the need to upgrade for quite a while.
8:19 wooden, corner PC desks with storage were the goat!
Nvidia GPUs....still much cheaper than a girlfriend.
Puts it in perspective
Just rent one online.
Try being married with kids. No time or money to game.
massively pressing F to doubt
@@fx-studio build one with a fine tuned LLM and Unreal 5
thanks Paul! always look forward to tech news!
Honestly, it looks to be pretty underwhelming. I guess it all comes down to pricing. And we know that will be bad. Another generation to skip most likely. So, AMD, Intel....????
Last black Friday I retired my GTX 1080ti for a 7900XT. I'm impressed and loving AMD software. No driver issues from new games to old, modding, and emulation. I won't give Nvidia a dime anymore.
Intel is dead, they basically gutted their future GPU lineup, and AMD said no more high end cards. I recommend just not buying new games and stick to playing old games you haven't tried/bought yet.
@@futuza Good advice. Game devs must hate NVIDEA even more than consumers.
@@StingyGeek I mean if they wanna do business, they could just target older platforms and focus on optimizing instead of making the latest and greatest the target. The only real issue is game devs themselves chasing photo-realistic fidelity, when they could just...chose not to.
@@futuza What "Realistic games" are actually fun to play?
GTA 5 :Oline isn't realistic, it's got a massive player base compared to it's older GTA IV game that was realistic... This move to realistic is stupid no plays games cause they're realistic, they play them because they're fun & unrealistic.
8:12 My first CRT monitor was a Viewsonic 21".
Now I understand why NVIDIA stopped supporting SLI. 2 5090s would draw 1200W alone...
No it's so you can't have two 60s/70s to compete with their newer gen cards.
Threadripper can draw that much power on Extreme over clocks too.
The truth is that you would rarely get to 99% on both GPU's its usually pretty even set around 60% to 75%.
Many people think this bad but it's actually just means your CPU bound (especially mGPU games that don't use drivers) or game code engine bound at its limit. Then people complain about scaling not being 100% even though dual CPUs were never 100% in scaling when they started to get better software that supposed them.
No the problem is that with them putting a rumored 32gb on the 5090 they would be undercutting their own dedicated AI lineup
@@AstroBot-bc0213 You can still put multiple GPUs together to create an AI farm, the same way you mine with multiple. SLI was pretty much exclusively for 3D rendering and gaming.
Paul, is this some kind of creator side setting that you have activated?
I usually have CC off on all videos. But every time I open one of yours the captions are turned back on.
Best intro ever my dude..
love you Paul, Thanks for the video, infos and humour
Im moving all AMD for the first time im getting a 9900x and 7900xt currently building it now Nvidia has to up the Vram if they want to keep me I don't care about 4k I already moved back to 1440 p Hight to Ultra 1440 p 60 fps + is all I need and I believe this combo will achieve that
every few years i upgrade my pc and i'm right back to this community of paul's hardware, JayzTwoCents, the beautiful hair man. It's so wonderful to get all nerdy. I'm planning to get the ryzen 9 7900, i'll upgrading from gen 1 ryzen lol
Microcenter should still have them even if they show out of stock. I went in and they had a bunch!
The cat themed mobo & case is awesome. I'd like a sci-fi space-nerdy version for myself. I will search...
Which motherboard would you recommend for the upcoming RTX 5090?
If you treat the 90 series as a Titan Flagship+ model and base specs off of the 5080, the lineup is semi decent right now. Percentages line up with past generations (and even slightly better than the 10 series).
Still need to see benchmarks between cards to know if there’s an improvement and I imagine there will be based on their server AI chips massive gains.
yay you guys rock. keep it up!
I have a 4070 super ti… won’t change at this point… let’s wait for the 6070
I never thought I'd have to say this but I don't see the sponsor link in your description 😂
I don't even get any results for Lexar even when I search the entire page (including comments)
Most brutally honest comment I've ever heard from a creator on RUclips begins at the one minute mark :D Thank You! Looking forward to lots of bug-eyed thumbnails and "We replaced our CPU Paste with Cheez-Wiz!" Videos....assuming LTT hasn't done that yet.....