3570K was my first "modern" CPU in a self built PC. I absolutely LOVED it. Got it to 4.4 Ghz with 16 gigs of RAM and a GTX 780. I miss that rig. I had so much fun with it and would say that the 3570K is my favorite older CPU.
man I love these old hardware videos. Messing about with older stuff is so much fun and its amazing how well tech has actually stayed relevant in the last 10 years.
I ran a non k 3570 from 2018 until two days ago when I managed to snag an i7 3770. While it was a pretty decent jump in terms of performance, the i5 still did basically everything I wanted it to do. I only started looking for the hyper-threaded i7 when I upgraded my brother's system to an i7 4790, saw what hyper-threading could do, and that the stuttering that I've experienced was pretty much nonexistent on his system. It's amazing how long 4 core processors have been relevant.
Yeah I went from an i5 3450 to the i7 3770K even though my cheap H61 motherboard couldn't do any overclocking, the hyperthreading and higher clock speeds still show massive performance gains when paired with an RX 580.
@@saudade_firefly i would have gone with an E3-1230 v2, its just a better binned i7-3770k and would have cost you 15 dollars, but the problem is quad cores are irrelevant now, and its only because you cant pair it with a powerful graphics card cause they bottle neck them fast this is bottle necking his gtx 1650, you also dont want to go any lower than a 4th gen intel chip anyways cause 3rd gen and lower are missing AVX-2 instructions on the cpu. might sound like that doesnt matter and a few years ago not really but a big handful of games wont even launch without AVX-2 support and that list keeps growing.actually if your going to upgrade in the future find a board that supports xeons (which most do) you can actually get identical chips to there i7.i9 counterparts for a fraction of the price.Or you could just buy an intel QS chip(qualified sample) of there i9 variant for half the price, just dont get the ES chip(engineering sample) cause its a hit and miss if its compatible with the board
Older PC parts never die. They just make their way into your 6th "spare" PC....or thats just how I justify it to myself for having all these extra computers kicking around..
Agree. I already own 5 of them, a Xeon E3 1270 V2, I7-3770, C2D E8400, Phenom II x4 965 and a Pentium 4 640. I also have 5 processors without systems, the oldest being a Phenom X4 9850. 😅😅😅
Yes you are right! Whenever I need to upgrade my PC, the component just moves on to my second PC and the old component from the second PC moves to my grandma's PC and the old parts from my grandma's PC go into my junk collection where the most random junk experiment builds are created like a pentium 3 with a rtx 2080. I don't do wasting.😂
Still using my 3570k @4.2 with 16GB of RAM paired nicely with an RX570. Certainly not a beast by any means but I’ve gotten plenty of life out of it. The fact that it’s able to play most new games at “some” type of resolution/setting level is simply awesome in my book.
I got an I5 3550, with 16GB RAM coupled with a very over powered GTX 1070ti. My 7 year old daughter seems to love it, and it's a nice little ITX build. I have a small portable monitor and it's a nice pc that I can whip out now and then. Keeps my kids off my I9 with 3070ti rig at least. I haven't tried anything recent on it, but I know it can handle some of course with some reduced settings.
I got my daughter a very cheap (74$) used PC: i5 2500k, RX 480 GPU and 16 GB ram (it has some broken USB ports). It runs very very well honestly (she plays various fortnite games). It even loads fortnite rounds noticeably faster then my i5 3570k rx 6600 build (have no idea why)
I have a lot of old parts laying around that still perform well. When I get kids i'll definently make a PC for them with these parts for them to play Roblox or kids games or something. Old parts are usually enough for just Roblox or school work etc.
Love this video, my first CPU was a 3570K back in 2013 when I got into PC gaming. It did more than I could have ever wished for, I have since upgraded and passed the 3570K onto a friend who has also just recently upgraded. He will be passing the processor/ram/motherboard combo down for the second time where I'm sure it will continue to be a beast. Great memories of building my first computer and having it be everything I could have ever wished for and more, I feel old, I miss those days.
I still have this cpu in my current rig and I was planning to upgrade my GPU to gtx 1650 or something similar so this video helped me a lot. Thank you 👍🏻
This processor is awesome and overclocks like a beast. I built a second PC out older spare parts, and keep it hooked up to my 1080p living room TV. I have my old 3570k in it, overclocked to 4.8 GHz, and it still handles just about everything at 1080p 60fps. Like you showed, it does struggle with some newer stuff like Elden Ring, but other than that it holds up very well.
I had a 3570k in a home theater PC until a week ago. Upgraded it to a 3770, and I have to say it made a big difference. 4 threads just doesn't cut it that much nowadays, especially 4 old threads.
i had this cpu paired with a gtx 760 and it was incredible back then. I eventually moved to ryzen, and passed the system onto my grandmother in 2018 where she used it for almost 3 years before the onboard audio went out on the motherboard necessitating a complete upgrade. great to see that even now it still has some chops left for gaming even today
I just got done building my own VPN server, and I had an old i7-870 kicking around, so I used that with 16GB of DDR3 RAM and a bunch of NAS drives in the 5 SATA ports on the motherboard. So far so good, but I'm surprised this i7 is still as functional as it is.
@@richardp3350 yeah, that's very true. I ended up using an 750W Corsair for the power supply. It's the newest thing in the machine. I'm also using an AIO pump for cooling because again, it was just sitting there, fully functional but nothing. And who couldn't use a little more VPN/NAS server in their lives?
I finally upgraded from my 3770k last month to a 12900k. I was holding out for a while, but Call of Duty consistently had the CPU pegged at 90% usage, pushing a steady 60fps at 1080p with a 5700xt. Now I'm getting 110fps on average. I still have the 3770k and it's system as a backup. It's still a solid 60fps system.
I still have my 3570k, its 10 years old, liquid metaled/delidded/relidded with cool labs first publicly obtainable liquid metal TIM, in my wifes computer, still going strong
I have an i7 3770 with a lovely msi z77ma-g45 motherboard and I have a lot of affection for it. I gave it to my girlfriend and her kids when I didn't need it anymore but I always check in on it to make sure they're not abusing it, haha.
hahaha i have the same "syndrome" when my wife uses my computer, i need to check if she uses it well and not doing s**t on it! Coz i know she likes to download tons of mods for the sims, but never clean up the xxGo of archive when she is done lol
Ivy Bridge is the bridge between Windows 10 and XP too - I have a triple boot system with XP, 7, and 10 and they all fly on this legend of a CPU. What a beast.
I don't have this model, but I do have an i5 2500 in my current PC. Paired it with a GTX 1050Ti. With the games I regularly play, it holds up quite well. Does a fine job with console emulation.
@@LanaaAmor No, just the regular version. I got it for a decent price few yrs back. I am from Malaysia, and the price of secondhand hardware including CPUs are variable, but it is still possible to find these CPUs for less than RM 100 ($25 approx)
@@LanaaAmor not a lot . Its about the same power like a amd Ryzen 1200 or Ryzen 2200ge . Personal if its a upgrade and fits in your board . Wel i pay for the i7 model about 40 euro. For my little brother his child . I pay for a i5 2500k witha gigabyte board and 2x4Gb ddr3 40 euro . But personal . I wil go for a i7 model . Its just have more headroom for games. I you go for a use systeem . Go for a Ryzen 1000serie . With a b320 chip. Its about 50/80 euro for a set.
@@dyslectische wow i5 2500k with 2X4gb for that price is a steal! Ryzen and i7 are expensive here but there is an i7 2nd gen with 1050ti and 8gb ram for 250 dollars. Is it worth it?
I've built my younger son a Dell Optiplex system for when he comes over for the weekend. It has 16GB of 1600MHz DDR3, an i7 3770 and a GTX 1650 I bought used for €120. I was really surprised at how good everything runs so well, like RDR 2 and the latest Warzone. Pretty incredible for a 250 euro computer.
Hi Steve, I notice you make most videos about old i5's and come to the conclusion that it manages, but is let down by its lack of hyperthreading. I'd like to see more old i7's and how they do! Maybe even a comparison video from first to 5th gen and how they compare to modern budget/midrange?
Sadly these days hyperthreading won't do much. 60-70fps is not really playable in MW2, I know because that's what I get even with my modern 4c8t 12100f with my RX 6800. I'll be grabbing a 12700KF the moment I can afford one
Exactly why I went 4790k over 4690k back in 2014. That extra $100 easily got me many more years of use. That 4790k is still paired with a Vega 56 for my living room PC.
Love my 2500K, still going strong. Motherboard and memory original too but the rest has been replaced over the years. 980 GTX and an SSD keeps it swift enough for now.
I just retired my 3570k have it as a backup still though. It played all the games I play and did a good job at it. Owned it for 6 yrs, bought used in a system.
Just bought a fancy 1155 motherboard that came with a 2600k for £30 so i could do some overclocking, but when i used to use a 4570, i'm curious to make up a bench and experience the beast i could never afford. I thought another good video idea i thought you might be interested in is exploring the business spec AM3 Triple cores back when AMD was in that funky era of unlocking chips and funky core layouts. Wikipedia 's AM3 list pulls them up, i believe theres a B71, 73 and 75 which i have and clocks higher than the flagship consumer black edition. Its a bit like some older xeons intel had that had a cache and clockspeed advantage. with an HD7970 i think it will do well for some older games. not long now before that system is ready but thought it could be a nice idea where you could compare some stats from older CPU benchmarks such as this 3570k.
I love this chip! It was my first CPU ever when i started gaming on PC in 2012. After many years of retirement, i took it out of the closet, overclocked it to 4.2 GHz and built a budget system around it with a GTX 960, so i can give it to a friend of mine who wants to start gaming on well and has very limited demands (for now) until she has a proper budget. Definitly surprised me when i tested it, it's still going kinda strong for its age.
I think when you’re growing up you remember your first pc 🥳🤩and it’s gaming experiences quite well 😇and you never get that same feeling or buzz with a newer upgrade 😒 despite being able to do more with it. Your first of anything 😉will always be your most remembered 🥰💪
Would be very interested in a sandy/ivybridge mega comparison. But I'd also like to see haswell and devils canyon or maybe even broadwell in the mix. It'd be pretty cool to dedicate a few videos dedicated to the kings of the ddr3 era
@@andyshtroymish4997 I always fancied getting a 4790k or 5775c, to pair it with some really high end ram and see what they could really do, but it may not be worth it now
@@shreddherring I had picked up a 4790K/GTX 980/16GB rig for $170 earlier this year. The motherboard had booting issues so I started looking at replacement boards. That's when I realized I could sell the 4790K for close to $100 and just snag a Ryzen 3600/Mobo combo from Microcenter for like $120. So I did just that. Had some DDR4 overstock so made the value of the PC much higher for resale. The Haswell chips are definitely holding up better than the Sandy/Ivy Bridge chips (still have my 3770K off to the side) because of the instruction sets, but it's hard to justify building a used PC from scratch with them. However, Xeons are dirt cheap and are a great way to get i7-like performance pennies. I've been snagging Xeon 1230v3 chips for like $25 and they perform on par with an i7-4770 non-K. Great to sub in an old office PC with a cheap card like a 1050. Crazy to think these chips are a decade old now
I'm currently using a 3770K, had gotten a a 1680 v2 a couple of years ago, but had to go back to the old setup due to energy costs. The extra cores really help for photo editing, but unfortunately made no difference for gaming, possibly because I dont have the right games that can take advantage of them, so, in hindsight, 4790k might've been the better buy!
Those older i5's still have quite a bit of life left. I built a PC for my sister with an i5-4670 and a GTX1650 and she is having a blast playing her games. She doesn't play the latest and greatest games, the hardest to run game she plays is Genshin Impact and that PC handles it like a champ at high settings on 1080p. Even could play BF4 with over 130FPS, which is a blessing experience, I bet BF1 would run really great. Seeing I got the processor in a full case with psu and everything for 10€ it is one hell of a deal to get into PC gaming
I've got one when it came out and loved it for many years. I had it paired with a lot of GPUs an it was that time i got into pc building / gaming. 😅 Nice to see that modern games are still running on this CPU so well. :D
Had the 2600 in 2012, then upgraded to the i7-6700 which i'm still using with an RX 6600. I'll probably upgrade in a year or two though because it start to show its limits.
I took a i7 4790, 16 GB DDR3 and a be quiet PSU from an old PC from work that didn't post and should go to the trash. I assumed the Mainboard was the problem and ordered a used one from ebay. Put everything together and it worked just fine. Combined it with my old 1660s that I had laying arround. Tried some games and in most games this combo worked just fine. Even Hogwarts legacy is playable on medium. I ordered a little mATX budget case and gave the machine to my girlfriend. She is quite happy with it.
Cool video. I built a system on a shoestring budget and got one of these. As you alluded to, I swapped it out with a 3770 a few months later. I mainly played Microsoft Flight Sim with it and, to be frank, it was doable but rough - even after OC'ing it to 4.2. I paired it with a 1660 which made for great framerates in the air, but at big and busy airports I got truly diabolical stutters. Things are much better with 3770, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. C'est La Vie...
I used my I5 4690k for about 8 years. It was a good chip that overclocked well and held it's own for quite a while. Load times, fps drops and stuttering in certain games meant I finally upgraded. Boy did it make a difference finally having hyperthreading though!
My PC is a beast from olden times now. i5 3570k and 1050 ti oc still do wonders for me. I recently discovered that they can play Detroit Become Human, played it smooth on custom-medium settings. I think they can pull some other games as well if I wasn't so pissed at low settings (Hogwarts Legacy). I got the pair so I could play Dragon Age Inquisition back in 2016, now I'm planning to make my next pc 'upgrade' (basically all parts) a graduation gift for myself. I'll build it so Starfield can run on high, hopefully the new components hold like those two
People really underestimate old hardware. A lot of high quality gaming can be done as long as you pair thing up the right way. I used a 1060 6gb evga with an i7 2700 non k in a Dell as a “get by” between builds pc. It ended up being my main pc for way longer than intended because it didn’t leave me wanting for much.
Somehow stumbled across this and glad many have the same sentiment! I have achieved the "10 year upgrade" finally moving to a 13700k with DDR4 3600mhz from my overclocked 3570k @4.4ghz with 16gb DDR3 1600mhz memory. It's funny how day to day use, I don't notice a difference, but the moment I run a CPU intensive game, I never dip in FPS ever. Also scores over 10x the 3570k in benchmarks after and undervolt and overclock. My 3570k will live in for a gaming setup for my younger niece's and nephews! Still a fantastic and reliable CPU!
Yesssss! Recognition for the epic 3570K, Still have mine, as of retired right now. Even in Early 2022, Mine was De-Lidded on a Asetek 645LT Pushing a 4.4OC and would still chew up just about anything I pushed it’s way.
I bought this old ivy bridge processor back in 2013. It overclocked wonderfully - if I remember correctly there was more bang for your book with this processor than any other
It was less than $200 and performed nearly as well as any top line option at the time. i7 may have paid off in the long-term, but in 2012/2013, this really was all anybody needed. Mine's still running fine, too. Haven't even changed the thermal paste once, and still almost never goes over 65 degrees with a basic Hyper 212.
Got my first "gaming" pc back in 2012. XPS 8500 and it had a 3450 and a gt 640 1gig in it. Still can't forget the first time I played gta 4 on it. Such memories 🥺
This is my chip paired with 16gb ddr3 1600. Not OC'd, gtx 960 4gb, x-fi titanium, 2tb sata3 ssd, h77 chipset. Dual booting xp and linux for retro and daily. Does literally everything I need it to and fairly quickly, granted I don't play the newer titles.
I'm still using this CPU and enjoying Cyberpunk 2077 with high crowd settings, high preset and high texture quality (on an RX 470 4 GB), I found that the immersion and atmosphere of a high crowded densely packed megacity is way more important than the stutters and FPS drops when turning the camera, also I only walk on foot to force the engine to load as many NPC's as possible in every area!
he is using nvidia gpu which has massive cpu driver overhead on dx12 games, so its going to be slower in terms of fps being produced by cpu if you pair it with nvidia gpu (10~15% less performance if you are cpu bottlenecked). This is why hardware unboxed says slower cpus run better on amd gpus.
Know a guy still running a 2500k at 4.7ghz and just recently upgraded from a R9 280 to a GTX 1660 Ti and I have to say the old chip is still doing pretty good considering the system doesn't fall too far behind my Ryzen 5 5500 + RX 580 8gb. Miss the golden years of pretty decent future proof mid-range hardware and I have to say it makes me miss my old i7 3770 even though the old i5 was hot on its heels with that 4.7ghz oc xD
I sold mine some 4-5 years ago to a friend who used it up till this Xmas where it went to another friend's daughter. The whole system was still working just fine and the Gtx 680 I had it paired with does still work for what preteens play.
I'm have a i7 3770k, still gaming ok(ish), some games takes a little longer to load, others are FPS bounded by CPU (because I have a RTX 3060ti, I know it's a huge bottlenck) but overall runs everything pretty well, this third gen intel core are a reliable beast despite lack of AVX2 and AVX512.
I bought this CPU in 2012, I got rid of in in 2017 when I was fed up with it being absolutely demolished by BF1. couldn't hold a consistent 60fps in 64 player matches. The frame drops are pretty severe because of the 4 cores and no HT.
The i5 3570k was a belter of a chip. Overclocked like no ones buisness. I had mine at 4.6ghz. Had it paired with 2x evga 660 super clock in sli which were basically gimped 780's. Still have all that stuff. It's sitting there doing nothing lol
i had a 3570k at 4.2ghz paired with a HD 7950, came from a 2005 era pentium4 prebuilt and the leap was so insane i don't think it'll ever be replicated. it was my first custom build that lasted me all the way until 2018 when either it or the motherboard died and i switched to ryzen 2600. absolute legend of a cpu and i definitely could've kept it running longer, still have it laying around actually, might turn it into a keychain accessory.
Hi Steve, I've been following you for ages. We both had very similar systems with a pentium g3258 then upgrading to an i5 4460 then purely by coincidence. Love your content👍 I was wondering if you'd consider doing a video on a "budget gaming pc" containing a 4th gen i3 8gb of ram and a GT 1030. I've seen a few local and online stores selling these as their "entry level" gaming PCs and was curious as to what they could actually run. Keep up the good work man
I am writing this post from a PC with 3750k which I refuse to replace. Until 6 months ago, it was accompanied with a GTX 670 and 16 GB of RAM. I changed to a RX 6600 and 32 GB and I guess that I will keep it for a couple more years. As always, good job 👍
My first Rig I built had a 3570k in it with 8 Gigs of Corsair Vengeance RAM just like what you got there, except I went with an AMD Radeon 7950 card. It lasted me until 2020... solid CPU.
My main PC has a Intel core i7-9700K, Strix RTX 2070 Gaming OC, 32g ram and m2 ssd. And when my parents divorced I build another one of old parts I had laying around. My plan was to use my dad's old i7-3770 but that thing shorted out for some reason, bricked the motherboard and broke the ram. Then I found my i5-3570K from my first ever PC and that one did work without bricking the motherboard. I paired it with a MSI GTX 1050 Ti , some cheap 10 bucks SSD and 16 gigs of ddr3 1600. And i'm surprised that the PC almost feels as fluid as my main PC with the 6 generations newer i7. When gaming I do notice a difference duh, but boot time, starting apps and overal windows experience I just as fast. It's an incredible 2012 CPU.
I sold my main gaming PC to upgrade recently, nothing amazing a 10600k with a 3060ti, I had an old socket 1155 Asus Z68 motherboard with a i5 3470 lying about, so to get by, I bought a 2600k for £30 and paired it with a RX 5700XT i had, and after overclocking it to 4.7GHz I was surprised how well it held up! It was holding back the 5700XT and I did get a few dips mid PUBG matches but it was perfectly serviceable. Paired with an older card it probably would do even better, its now going to make the bases of a retro Windows XP or 7 gaming PC paired with a GTX950, one of the last cards you can get official Windows XP drivers.
I went with an i3-4170 when skylake got released(around 5% difference at the time, but significantly higher cost mobo+cpu+ram) and later on upgraded to i7-4790, when games actually needed more than 4 threads. Paired with an OC version of GTX 950 that I got on sale for around 150€(the cheapest GTX 960 was around 220€ in my country) and I got a capable gaming PC with a clear upgrade path.
my pc is old but new. i built it a few months ago but it does everything i want it to do. (streaming recording and editing) its a core i7 2600 system with 32 gb of ram and an evga geforce gtx 680 (its the ultimate 2012 pc) but i love seeing people using older hardware as their main machines
I definitely appreciate your evaluation of this CPU. It (and it's Xeon equivalent) is still very capable for tons of great games. I do feel the need to call out one thing here - not really a criticism, but an observation based on your initial premise... "Picture this scene: it's 2012 and you want to build yourself a brand new gaming PC". You've paired this with what you call "a rather modest" 1650 GDDR6. The only thing I see wrong with this is the 1650 in question here is a good 250% the performance of even a GTX580.. having said that, I get that you're trying to show this is still quite capable in 2023, and it definitely appears to be.. so, nicely done.
I still use this cpu in my second computer, it was in my main rig before but swapped it for the xeon E3-1240 v2. Very good cpu even today! The Xeon is still a beast for me, equal to the i7 3770. (sorry for my english)
I've had an I5 3350p, from 2013 to 2021 in a prebuilt PC by Acer (Acer Aspire mc605) with an Nvidia GT 625 2gb GPU. Never replaced the thermal paste and only upgraded the RAM from 4gb to 8gb, whenever I gamed on it, the GPU would reach temps up to 103 Degrees Celsius, It still works today and my dad uses it.
If you're upgrading from one, 3rd-gen i5 systems make great NAS and Plex boxes (especially if you can do Hardware Transcoding). Alternatively, a cheap SSD boot drive and basically any recent GPU will make it an excellent and snappy hand-me-down PC.
I find it pretty impressive that 10+ year old PCs can still run new games fairly decently. The 3570K is 11 years old and the GTX 580 is 13 years old! I remember a time where 10 years was a totally different world with computer hardware. Imagine in 2004 trying to run the latest games with a 1993 CPU and a 1991 GPU! HA! It wouldn't even being able to run Windows XP let alone any games! Around 2000 I had a high end system with a 1GHZ AMD processor and a GeForce 2 GTS 32MB for the GPU. It was a beast....for about 2 years. I had to upgrade sometime around late 2002 to early 2003. My main reason for wanting upgrade was the game Mafia. I loved that game but could only run it at lower settings. For my new PC I went with an Athlon XP 2800+ and for the GPU an ATI 9500. I remember the reason why I ended up choosing the ATI 9500. With some 9500s you could unlock extra pipelines and turn it into a 9700! It didn't work with all 9500s, some would display artifacts when the extra pipelines were unlocked. Luckily my unlocked with no artifacts and I had a 9700 for the price of a 9850! That was also the first PC I built myself. Those were good times.
Sandy bridge and Ivy bridge has had the most impressive lifetime I've ever seen for Cpu's .... I mean I'm still running my i7 2600k @ 4.8 Ghz with 32 Gb Ram and a RTX 3060 and I'm happily playing 1080p and 1440p high to ultra settings in games .... It usually don't dip under 45 fps average and with some games it actually uses the Gpu fully so bottlenecks are hit or miss with some games... I am though very overdue with a upgrade.
I recently upgraded from a 3770K, and honestly I did not need the upgrade, I have just replaced graphics cards over the years and it has worked just fine, but the system was getting old. I went for AMD 3800X3D and I plan to keep it as long as possible.
This video makes me miss my old 3570k. Had it running in a mini ITX build overclocked to 4.6GHz and even though it ran hot, it never gave me problems with the Noctua cooler i was using. Wish newer CPUs overclocked like the old ones used to...
Please do a follow up of this series with a 3770k with a same settings overclock? it would be interesting to see how much HT benefits titles that can take advantage of it :)
I had an i5 3570K 4.5GHz from 2013 until 2021 (since 2015 with a GTX 970 and in 2020 I changed the 4x4GB 1600MHz memories for 2x8GB 2400MHz). The i5 3570K is a good CPU even for 60 FPS in several games, as Hardware parts in Brazil are expensive, I only changed the CPU for Ryzen 5 3600 because the i5 had a lot of stuttering in open world games like Gta 5 Online, AC Odyssey, AC Valhalla, State of Decay 2 and Red Dead Redemption 2. In RDR2 and AC Odyssey the CPU was at 100% usage several times, I needed to lock at 45 FPS in big cities to be able to play without stuttering. I sold my i5 3570K but in the future I will definitely buy an i7 3770K for my secondary PC.
Absolutely insane how 10 years now you still have a somewhat usable machine, back in 1990 when Amigas and Atari STs were around, 10 years earlier you had an ZX80.
And in 2000 a 10 year old PC would have been a 386 or Amiga/ST and none of these would have been able to run any moder games. In 2010 a Pentium III and Athlon Thunderbird would have been just barely good enought to run the latest version of Windows and that in a terribly slow speed.
This old boy is useable, tho i never OC it at the time, it ran VR games as well it could, of course stutters were a problem in VR games such as B&S/bonelab, even a 980 or 1070 could not fix that, overall if your playing modern games it still works great endless its CP2077 that game wants more cores. still riding a 3rd gen i7 3770k @4.4 with a 3060ti
A very interesting video. I always wonder how good these earlier Intel i5 4C4T CPU preforms. Before 2021 I was using an i5-4460 iMac as main computer and a Lenovo SFF prebuilt using i3-4130 with 1050ti for Windows only software/games. The i3+1050ti combo can handle almost every I throw at them except some CPU intensive games like City:Skylines. Later my iMac is broken and I replaced it with a R5 3600 system. it is so good that sometimes I would wonder what would happen if I built a PC with 1st gen Ryzen like R3 1200 instead of buying the 4130 prebuilt. Maybe a video of 3rd/4th Gen i5 vs 1st Gen R3 would be an interesting one.
I feel like they would be very tight. looking back at launch reviws, the 1200 was slower than a i3-7100 but could keep up with the i5-7400 in some games and had to compete with the Pentium G4560 in others. It sits about where an FX-8370 is at stock, and with OC gets somewhere between a 2500K and 1300X, while the 2500K with OC creeps close to a i3-7300 So with overclocking those old Intels will outperform the Ryzen 1200 noticeably, And without, they will still outperform it. Well on some games, in others it runs away from even the 2600K And there isn't much difference in performance between the SandyBridge, IvyBridge, Haswell, and even Skylake chips.
Have a old I7 2600 in a system that just mostly used for general web browsing and some gaming on the side, still works well for me as a second computer
Another great video mate. Love these older chips. Mate has a i7 2600, ssd, 1050ti, 16gb ram. Plays all the free games (Fortnite, Apex, Valorant, Csgo etc) easily. Nice budget system.
To put things into perspective, the i5-3570K was what powered my pfsense router. I have since moved onto a Ryzen 5 3600 for that task. The i5-3570K was having major issues, and dropping connection, when downloading at more than 1Gbps (I have a 10Gbit internet connection). It's about time to upgrade from this one. It's dead Jim.
Change out the GTX 1650 for an AMD GPU for better frames due to Nvidia Drive overhead on lower-end processors. See Hardware Unboxed video on Nvidia driver overhead for more details
@@solocamo3654 The i3-12100 is faster than the i7-7700 in this video I'm linking. Sorry you got to copy and paste it otherwise youtube won't allow it the comment to be shown JH8UTc6lwX8?t=929 But if you take the time to watch the entire video you'll see on the lower-end intel cpu's the 6650 XT SMOKES the 4090 due to driver overhead in some games. Take a look at watchdogs as an example...
Hell yeah it can! I was rockin' a 3570 until recently. Had mine paired with a 1070 Ti, BTW- over 100% performance, above average, according to my UserBenchmarking.
In our household we have a 3570k and a 4790k still in use although we do have newer towers. The 3570k is paired with an Rx560 4gb, the 4790k has an Rtx 2060 12gb. We connected these older systems to TV's in bedrooms of our house, the visuals aren't as good as when using our newer PC's but it does allow for gaming in most areas of our home. Nvdia Geforce Now for games that they can't run well on their own.
Not bad for a 10+ year old processor and I reckon that 4.2GHz overclock was helping out quite a bit! I like how you've now tested the main components of that entire PC you got, namely the CPU and GPU separately. If I was going to build an older system, it would probably by X58, X79 or X99 because of the larger RAM and SATA capabilities of those boards. Having a board that can take up to 8 RAM sticks or up to 10 SATA connections is great for use as a NAS or similar, and of course there are also PCI-E adapters to convert to M.2 NVMe for a boot drive.
I had an i5 3570k I got used, till I upgraded to an used AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, currently overclocked to 4GHz all core, in 2019. That 3570K was a damn good processor. Mine actually ran great at 4.8GHz all core overclocked and slightly under volted. It and the Gigabyte Windforce R9 290 I had served me well, but I upgraded to my current 1600X and a Zotac GTX 1070. That said, recently upgraded to an EVGA 2080 Super Black Gaming Edition card and have found the processor as my bottleneck. Hoping to find and upgrade to a 3600X or 5600X in the near future.
That CPU was the first one i've bought to build my own gaming rig, with the GTX 680TI and the ASUS p8z77-m mother board and 4 corsair vengeance 4gb ram sticks inside the NZXT Phantom 410 midi tower. man i freaking loved that setup and it carried me for a long time!
Retired mine in 2020, ran since 2012 undervolted at 4ghz. Served me great for 8 years and is still a decent cpu to this day. Running in a pc for my nephew at stock clockspeed with a gtx 1050 ti where he plays fortnite, rocket league and forza horizon and the cpu handles it well mostly bottlenecked by the gpu. For me it was time to move on from the cpu as even coupled with a rx 580 8gb it became more often then not that the cpu bottlenecked. First it started in prey, where i had to lower settings to reduce load on the cpu then it went on with assassins creed origins which seriously doesn´t run great on 4 cores. Nowadays i don´t even have a desktop anymore and replaced it with a ryzen 7 5800h coupled with a rtx 3080 in a nice 15" laptop. Works for me and even cyberpunk runs like a charm. Long story short, the rather high ipc makes the 3570k still a decent cpu, specially when overclocked in all games that don´t really utilize more then 4 cores. Lack of avx2 however will hurt it in some games where it bottoms out sooner rather then later. And yes the i7 3770k would have been the more future proof choice back then... but if you look at the i5´s 8 years of service then you can hardly say i didn´t get the value out of it.
I just put together a machine with the 4th gen i7 4790 (non-k) and a GTX 980 for my nephews to play fortnite. 120+ FPS on performance mode and buttery smooth. These older cpu's still have a fair bit of horsepower!
I have one of these - updating to Ryzen on a new motherboard setup but it absolutely works. Got it to 4.4GHz, runs games like The Sims and Wolfenstein with no lag, even CSGO etc. Even got Hogwarts Legacy going with no substantial lag on Low. Had a RX480 as well, worked as a good setup. For £15 (from CEX) it's absolutely worth buying imo
I have an old pc with a gigabyte ga-z77-d3h i5-3570K running an oc of 4.3ghz and a gtx 1050 ti. Runs like a dream 👌🏻 I was on quroa cpu assistant the other day, and it advised me that the best suitable gpu would be an rtx 3060! Wondering if anyone has ever tried this pair up and if it actually runs ok. I play fortnite, cod, siege, asassins creed etc
Three months ago I bought XFX RX6800 for my 3570K. Since then I've played a couple of AAA games, incl Plague Tale: Requiem and God of War on my 3440x1400 monitor on max settings (ultra or whatever they're called) w/o any discomfort. Yes, I have hidden potential that'll be unlocked when I change the whole rig, but do not be mistaken: 3570K has enough juice to drive high end GPU and leave you wondering, "Do I REALLY have to pay for new mobo/cpu/ram?" I don't play competitively and do not need 200+ fps so everything above 60 suits me well...
The budget builds I'm currently selling are i5 4590s and 4670s, 16gb of ddr3, and an RX 470/480/570/580s or a GTX 1060, plus an SSD. Probably as low as you want to go and still play modern games. But, it can get someone PC gaming for surprisingly little money and parts are readily available. It lets me sell ready-to-go systems to people who simply wouldn't have any PC gaming option otherwise. Margins aren't great since I keep the prices low but the demand is high. - If someone were to build their own I'd probably suggest something different though.
just picked up this system for 40€: 3570k, 16gb, asrock z77 extreme, GTX 970, gigantic topblower with 140mm noctua fan, 2x120mm noctua case fans, coolermaster silencio 550 case, 550w bequiet, blueray writer, 5" hotswap bay for 3.5" HDDs CPU does 4.4GHz with stock voltage. gonna try to get it higher the next days. planning to just put an SSD in there with a fresh win10 and resell it for like 140€. almost hesitant to sell it as it is such a beatiful well build system
Currently rebuilding a spare rig with my old 4790k. That chip still kicks some. I ran Microsoft Flight Simulator through it and it worked remarkably well
3570K was my first "modern" CPU in a self built PC. I absolutely LOVED it. Got it to 4.4 Ghz with 16 gigs of RAM and a GTX 780. I miss that rig. I had so much fun with it and would say that the 3570K is my favorite older CPU.
That setup is exactly what I was jealous of at the time I had a FX 6300 and 650ti, 3rd/4th gen and x99 was a pipe dream for me with a 780
Same, except I still use it :(
i7 3770K better.. ;-)
@@deagt3388 True, but the 4790k I upgraded to was better than a 3770k haha
I wish I could say the same about my first laptop's Celeron 2981U back in 2014 damn that thing was bad
Bought one in Nov 2012 and still going strong in 2023 with a 1660ti, pretty good value for money over almost 11 years of use!
man I love these old hardware videos. Messing about with older stuff is so much fun and its amazing how well tech has actually stayed relevant in the last 10 years.
Can i this processor use in Esonic H61DA1 2nd/3rd generation motherboard???
@@SrijonRudra yes
I ran a non k 3570 from 2018 until two days ago when I managed to snag an i7 3770. While it was a pretty decent jump in terms of performance, the i5 still did basically everything I wanted it to do. I only started looking for the hyper-threaded i7 when I upgraded my brother's system to an i7 4790, saw what hyper-threading could do, and that the stuttering that I've experienced was pretty much nonexistent on his system. It's amazing how long 4 core processors have been relevant.
Yeah I went from an i5 3450 to the i7 3770K even though my cheap H61 motherboard couldn't do any overclocking, the hyperthreading and higher clock speeds still show massive performance gains when paired with an RX 580.
its like i see myself in these comments 😂 i jumped from Non K 3570 to I7 4790 paired with RX 580 8Gb and 16gb ram. im overly satisfied with my machine
I just hope you got it pretty cheap.
@@robertt9342 it was 47 dollars and change
@@saudade_firefly i would have gone with an E3-1230 v2, its just a better binned i7-3770k and would have cost you 15 dollars, but the problem is quad cores are irrelevant now, and its only because you cant pair it with a powerful graphics card cause they bottle neck them fast this is bottle necking his gtx 1650, you also dont want to go any lower than a 4th gen intel chip anyways cause 3rd gen and lower are missing AVX-2 instructions on the cpu. might sound like that doesnt matter and a few years ago not really but a big handful of games wont even launch without AVX-2 support and that list keeps growing.actually if your going to upgrade in the future find a board that supports xeons (which most do) you can actually get identical chips to there i7.i9 counterparts for a fraction of the price.Or you could just buy an intel QS chip(qualified sample) of there i9 variant for half the price, just dont get the ES chip(engineering sample) cause its a hit and miss if its compatible with the board
Older PC parts never die. They just make their way into your 6th "spare" PC....or thats just how I justify it to myself for having all these extra computers kicking around..
Agree. I already own 5 of them, a Xeon E3 1270 V2, I7-3770, C2D E8400, Phenom II x4 965 and a Pentium 4 640. I also have 5 processors without systems, the oldest being a Phenom X4 9850. 😅😅😅
Yes you are right! Whenever I need to upgrade my PC, the component just moves on to my second PC and the old component from the second PC moves to my grandma's PC and the old parts from my grandma's PC go into my junk collection where the most random junk experiment builds are created like a pentium 3 with a rtx 2080. I don't do wasting.😂
Still using my 3570k @4.2 with 16GB of RAM paired nicely with an RX570. Certainly not a beast by any means but I’ve gotten plenty of life out of it. The fact that it’s able to play most new games at “some” type of resolution/setting level is simply awesome in my book.
I got an I5 3550, with 16GB RAM coupled with a very over powered GTX 1070ti.
My 7 year old daughter seems to love it, and it's a nice little ITX build. I have a small portable monitor and it's a nice pc that I can whip out now and then.
Keeps my kids off my I9 with 3070ti rig at least.
I haven't tried anything recent on it, but I know it can handle some of course with some reduced settings.
I got my daughter a very cheap (74$) used PC: i5 2500k, RX 480 GPU and 16 GB ram (it has some broken USB ports). It runs very very well honestly (she plays various fortnite games). It even loads fortnite rounds noticeably faster then my i5 3570k rx 6600 build (have no idea why)
I have a lot of old parts laying around that still perform well. When I get kids i'll definently make a PC for them with these parts for them to play Roblox or kids games or something. Old parts are usually enough for just Roblox or school work etc.
Love this video, my first CPU was a 3570K back in 2013 when I got into PC gaming. It did more than I could have ever wished for, I have since upgraded and passed the 3570K
onto a friend who has also just recently upgraded. He will be passing the processor/ram/motherboard combo down for the second time where I'm sure it will continue to be a beast.
Great memories of building my first computer and having it be everything I could have ever wished for and more, I feel old, I miss those days.
still use it today
I still have this cpu in my current rig and I was planning to upgrade my GPU to gtx 1650 or something similar so this video helped me a lot. Thank you 👍🏻
I'm using an old i7-3770 I took from my old restaurant job when it went out of business and it's still doing me good.
Yeah those 3rd gen i7s are fantastic
This processor is awesome and overclocks like a beast. I built a second PC out older spare parts, and keep it hooked up to my 1080p living room TV. I have my old 3570k in it, overclocked to 4.8 GHz, and it still handles just about everything at 1080p 60fps. Like you showed, it does struggle with some newer stuff like Elden Ring, but other than that it holds up very well.
I had a 3570k in a home theater PC until a week ago. Upgraded it to a 3770, and I have to say it made a big difference. 4 threads just doesn't cut it that much nowadays, especially 4 old threads.
Please elaborate. I went from a 3570 to a 3770. What was faster?
@@itstheweirdguy the extra threads and cache help in more modern games. I use it for living room gaming.
Agree, Friend has an older system with 3770. Works great with cheap gpu, 16gb ram, ssd. We like our cheap systems!
What do you use for gpu on 3770? I'm planning to buy a used 3700k for $72, and i still don't know what gpu that's best for it yet not too overkill.
@@YusssoM on that computer, it's just a 1050ti
i had this cpu paired with a gtx 760 and it was incredible back then. I eventually moved to ryzen, and passed the system onto my grandmother in 2018 where she used it for almost 3 years before the onboard audio went out on the motherboard necessitating a complete upgrade. great to see that even now it still has some chops left for gaming even today
I just got done building my own VPN server, and I had an old i7-870 kicking around, so I used that with 16GB of DDR3 RAM and a bunch of NAS drives in the 5 SATA ports on the motherboard. So far so good, but I'm surprised this i7 is still as functional as it is.
Only issue with first gen core i processors is idle power consumption. Had a Xeon x5650@4.1 ghz on x58 and it consumed way over 100w idle 😅
@@richardp3350 yeah, that's very true. I ended up using an 750W Corsair for the power supply. It's the newest thing in the machine. I'm also using an AIO pump for cooling because again, it was just sitting there, fully functional but nothing. And who couldn't use a little more VPN/NAS server in their lives?
I finally upgraded from my 3770k last month to a 12900k. I was holding out for a while, but Call of Duty consistently had the CPU pegged at 90% usage, pushing a steady 60fps at 1080p with a 5700xt. Now I'm getting 110fps on average.
I still have the 3770k and it's system as a backup. It's still a solid 60fps system.
3770k overclocked? 🤔
Would love to buy it from you....
Forgot to note, yes it was overclocked, stable at 4.4. It maybe can be pushed a bit further but I didn't see any benefits personally.
I still have my 3570k, its 10 years old, liquid metaled/delidded/relidded with cool labs first publicly obtainable liquid metal TIM, in my wifes computer, still going strong
I have an i7 3770 with a lovely msi z77ma-g45 motherboard and I have a lot of affection for it. I gave it to my girlfriend and her kids when I didn't need it anymore but I always check in on it to make sure they're not abusing it, haha.
hahaha i have the same "syndrome" when my wife uses my computer, i need to check if she uses it well and not doing s**t on it! Coz i know she likes to download tons of mods for the sims, but never clean up the xxGo of archive when she is done lol
girlfriend and......her kids? O_o
Man is enjoying variety of fruits by giving hardware😅
Ivy Bridge is the bridge between Windows 10 and XP too - I have a triple boot system with XP, 7, and 10 and they all fly on this legend of a CPU. What a beast.
I don't have this model, but I do have an i5 2500 in my current PC. Paired it with a GTX 1050Ti. With the games I regularly play, it holds up quite well. Does a fine job with console emulation.
The Intel 3000 serie is not that really faster .
On the same speed its about 5% .
The Botlek is the memory speed.
is it the i5 2500k? Would you recommend it in 2023? How much should I pay for it?
@@LanaaAmor No, just the regular version. I got it for a decent price few yrs back. I am from Malaysia, and the price of secondhand hardware including CPUs are variable, but it is still possible to find these CPUs for less than RM 100 ($25 approx)
@@LanaaAmor not a lot .
Its about the same power like a amd Ryzen 1200 or Ryzen 2200ge .
Personal if its a upgrade and fits in your board .
Wel i pay for the i7 model about 40 euro.
For my little brother his child .
I pay for a i5 2500k witha gigabyte board and 2x4Gb ddr3 40 euro .
But personal .
I wil go for a i7 model .
Its just have more headroom for games.
I you go for a use systeem .
Go for a Ryzen 1000serie .
With a b320 chip.
Its about 50/80 euro for a set.
@@dyslectische wow i5 2500k with 2X4gb for that price is a steal! Ryzen and i7 are expensive here but there is an i7 2nd gen with 1050ti and 8gb ram for 250 dollars. Is it worth it?
I've built my younger son a Dell Optiplex system for when he comes over for the weekend. It has 16GB of 1600MHz DDR3, an i7 3770 and a GTX 1650 I bought used for €120. I was really surprised at how good everything runs so well, like RDR 2 and the latest Warzone. Pretty incredible for a 250 euro computer.
Nice. Yeah the 3770 still does a great job
how much should I be paying for the i7 3770 in 2023? Is it worth it?
@@LanaaAmor I paid 45 euros on ebay and it was worth it. Wouldn't pay much more than that, though.
@@nunofernandes4501 is it the 3770k? You found a really good deal
@@LanaaAmor no, it's the plain 3770. I think that the Dell Optiplex doesn't support the Ks so I went vanilla and didn't regret it.
Hi Steve, I notice you make most videos about old i5's and come to the conclusion that it manages, but is let down by its lack of hyperthreading. I'd like to see more old i7's and how they do! Maybe even a comparison video from first to 5th gen and how they compare to modern budget/midrange?
Sadly these days hyperthreading won't do much. 60-70fps is not really playable in MW2, I know because that's what I get even with my modern 4c8t 12100f with my RX 6800. I'll be grabbing a 12700KF the moment I can afford one
Exactly why I went 4790k over 4690k back in 2014. That extra $100 easily got me many more years of use. That 4790k is still paired with a Vega 56 for my living room PC.
im still using my 4690k lol its still chugging along well enough paired with my 980ti
Love my 2500K, still going strong. Motherboard and memory original too but the rest has been replaced over the years. 980 GTX and an SSD keeps it swift enough for now.
I just retired my 3570k have it as a backup still though. It played all the games I play and did a good job at it. Owned it for 6 yrs, bought used in a system.
That CPU was/is still an old beast. I was using mine back in 2021 paired with an R9 270x 4gb variant and was playing really well.
lol that's my build right now.
@@jamesbell8719 i still use this cpu wiht r290 for sim rig, and its doing ok on Assetto corsa or Iracing,
Just bought a fancy 1155 motherboard that came with a 2600k for £30 so i could do some overclocking, but when i used to use a 4570, i'm curious to make up a bench and experience the beast i could never afford. I thought another good video idea i thought you might be interested in is exploring the business spec AM3 Triple cores back when AMD was in that funky era of unlocking chips and funky core layouts. Wikipedia 's AM3 list pulls them up, i believe theres a B71, 73 and 75 which i have and clocks higher than the flagship consumer black edition. Its a bit like some older xeons intel had that had a cache and clockspeed advantage. with an HD7970 i think it will do well for some older games. not long now before that system is ready but thought it could be a nice idea where you could compare some stats from older CPU benchmarks such as this 3570k.
while we are there, maybe a retro back to athlon xp area or amd centurion that 250w tdp chip
I found a b71 in an ewaste shop, it was interesting, gave it to my cousin, he tried to cook a steak with it, got butter in the board, butter board
@@connors3356 wow maam
I love this chip! It was my first CPU ever when i started gaming on PC in 2012. After many years of retirement, i took it out of the closet, overclocked it to 4.2 GHz and built a budget system around it with a GTX 960, so i can give it to a friend of mine who wants to start gaming on well and has very limited demands (for now) until she has a proper budget. Definitly surprised me when i tested it, it's still going kinda strong for its age.
I think when you’re growing up you remember your first pc 🥳🤩and it’s gaming experiences quite well 😇and you never get that same feeling or buzz with a newer upgrade 😒 despite being able to do more with it. Your first of anything 😉will always be your most remembered 🥰💪
Would be very interested in a sandy/ivybridge mega comparison. But I'd also like to see haswell and devils canyon or maybe even broadwell in the mix. It'd be pretty cool to dedicate a few videos dedicated to the kings of the ddr3 era
Haswells are still going strong!
@@andyshtroymish4997 I always fancied getting a 4790k or 5775c, to pair it with some really high end ram and see what they could really do, but it may not be worth it now
Me too, I had an i5-4670k for years until about a year ago. Loved that chip.
@@shreddherring I had picked up a 4790K/GTX 980/16GB rig for $170 earlier this year. The motherboard had booting issues so I started looking at replacement boards. That's when I realized I could sell the 4790K for close to $100 and just snag a Ryzen 3600/Mobo combo from Microcenter for like $120. So I did just that. Had some DDR4 overstock so made the value of the PC much higher for resale.
The Haswell chips are definitely holding up better than the Sandy/Ivy Bridge chips (still have my 3770K off to the side) because of the instruction sets, but it's hard to justify building a used PC from scratch with them.
However, Xeons are dirt cheap and are a great way to get i7-like performance pennies. I've been snagging Xeon 1230v3 chips for like $25 and they perform on par with an i7-4770 non-K. Great to sub in an old office PC with a cheap card like a 1050.
Crazy to think these chips are a decade old now
I'm currently using a 3770K, had gotten a a 1680 v2 a couple of years ago, but had to go back to the old setup due to energy costs. The extra cores really help for photo editing, but unfortunately made no difference for gaming, possibly because I dont have the right games that can take advantage of them, so, in hindsight, 4790k might've been the better buy!
Those older i5's still have quite a bit of life left. I built a PC for my sister with an i5-4670 and a GTX1650 and she is having a blast playing her games. She doesn't play the latest and greatest games, the hardest to run game she plays is Genshin Impact and that PC handles it like a champ at high settings on 1080p. Even could play BF4 with over 130FPS, which is a blessing experience, I bet BF1 would run really great. Seeing I got the processor in a full case with psu and everything for 10€ it is one hell of a deal to get into PC gaming
I've got one when it came out and loved it for many years.
I had it paired with a lot of GPUs an it was that time i got into pc building / gaming. 😅
Nice to see that modern games are still running on this CPU so well. :D
I'm not surprised. These beauties can handle the extra juice. I've seen one clocked at a ridiculous 4.9
I recently upgraded from an i7 3770. That generation and the 2600k were legendary
Had the 2600 in 2012, then upgraded to the i7-6700 which i'm still using with an RX 6600. I'll probably upgrade in a year or two though because it start to show its limits.
I took a i7 4790, 16 GB DDR3 and a be quiet PSU from an old PC from work that didn't post and should go to the trash. I assumed the Mainboard was the problem and ordered a used one from ebay. Put everything together and it worked just fine. Combined it with my old 1660s that I had laying arround. Tried some games and in most games this combo worked just fine. Even Hogwarts legacy is playable on medium. I ordered a little mATX budget case and gave the machine to my girlfriend. She is quite happy with it.
Pretty awesome performance out of that old I5...Thanks for testing it with the gtx 580 as well!
Thanks for watching :)
Hmmm in many titles 100% load these days 4 cores n/a HT ain't gonna cut it. Are you still running a GTX 580?
my first pc build was an i5 3570k and a 660 ti 3gb. clocked over 800 hours in bf3 with that beast.
Cool video. I built a system on a shoestring budget and got one of these. As you alluded to, I swapped it out with a 3770 a few months later. I mainly played Microsoft Flight Sim with it and, to be frank, it was doable but rough - even after OC'ing it to 4.2. I paired it with a 1660 which made for great framerates in the air, but at big and busy airports I got truly diabolical stutters. Things are much better with 3770, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. C'est La Vie...
I used my I5 4690k for about 8 years. It was a good chip that overclocked well and held it's own for quite a while. Load times, fps drops and stuttering in certain games meant I finally upgraded. Boy did it make a difference finally having hyperthreading though!
My PC is a beast from olden times now. i5 3570k and 1050 ti oc still do wonders for me. I recently discovered that they can play Detroit Become Human, played it smooth on custom-medium settings. I think they can pull some other games as well if I wasn't so pissed at low settings (Hogwarts Legacy).
I got the pair so I could play Dragon Age Inquisition back in 2016, now I'm planning to make my next pc 'upgrade' (basically all parts) a graduation gift for myself. I'll build it so Starfield can run on high, hopefully the new components hold like those two
Have i7 3770K on Gigabyte UD3 MB with Noctua fan on it, 8 GB of RAM and GTX 1050 Ti (used to be GTX 580 which is dead).Can't wait upcoming videos! ;-)
People really underestimate old hardware. A lot of high quality gaming can be done as long as you pair thing up the right way. I used a 1060 6gb evga with an i7 2700 non k in a Dell as a “get by” between builds pc. It ended up being my main pc for way longer than intended because it didn’t leave me wanting for much.
Somehow stumbled across this and glad many have the same sentiment! I have achieved the "10 year upgrade" finally moving to a 13700k with DDR4 3600mhz from my overclocked 3570k @4.4ghz with 16gb DDR3 1600mhz memory.
It's funny how day to day use, I don't notice a difference, but the moment I run a CPU intensive game, I never dip in FPS ever. Also scores over 10x the 3570k in benchmarks after and undervolt and overclock.
My 3570k will live in for a gaming setup for my younger niece's and nephews! Still a fantastic and reliable CPU!
Yesssss! Recognition for the epic 3570K, Still have mine, as of retired right now. Even in Early 2022, Mine was De-Lidded on a Asetek 645LT Pushing a 4.4OC and would still chew up just about anything I pushed it’s way.
I bought this old ivy bridge processor back in 2013. It overclocked wonderfully - if I remember correctly there was more bang for your book with this processor than any other
It was less than $200 and performed nearly as well as any top line option at the time. i7 may have paid off in the long-term, but in 2012/2013, this really was all anybody needed. Mine's still running fine, too. Haven't even changed the thermal paste once, and still almost never goes over 65 degrees with a basic Hyper 212.
Still have my 3570K running fine in my secondary PC, slightly overclocked now to keep up with a gpu upgrade 6 years ago.
Got my first "gaming" pc back in 2012. XPS 8500 and it had a 3450 and a gt 640 1gig in it. Still can't forget the first time I played gta 4 on it. Such memories 🥺
This is my chip paired with 16gb ddr3 1600. Not OC'd, gtx 960 4gb, x-fi titanium, 2tb sata3 ssd, h77 chipset. Dual booting xp and linux for retro and daily. Does literally everything I need it to and fairly quickly, granted I don't play the newer titles.
I'm still using this CPU and enjoying Cyberpunk 2077 with high crowd settings, high preset and high texture quality (on an RX 470 4 GB), I found that the immersion and atmosphere of a high crowded densely packed megacity is way more important than the stutters and FPS drops when turning the camera, also I only walk on foot to force the engine to load as many NPC's as possible in every area!
he is using nvidia gpu which has massive cpu driver overhead on dx12 games, so its going to be slower in terms of fps being produced by cpu if you pair it with nvidia gpu (10~15% less performance if you are cpu bottlenecked). This is why hardware unboxed says slower cpus run better on amd gpus.
Know a guy still running a 2500k at 4.7ghz and just recently upgraded from a R9 280 to a GTX 1660 Ti and I have to say the old chip is still doing pretty good considering the system doesn't fall too far behind my Ryzen 5 5500 + RX 580 8gb. Miss the golden years of pretty decent future proof mid-range hardware and I have to say it makes me miss my old i7 3770 even though the old i5 was hot on its heels with that 4.7ghz oc xD
I'm using xeon E3-1240 v2 paired with the RX 590 Gold Ed. Very solid combo with 16Go ram!
I sold mine some 4-5 years ago to a friend who used it up till this Xmas where it went to another friend's daughter. The whole system was still working just fine and the Gtx 680 I had it paired with does still work for what preteens play.
I'm have a i7 3770k, still gaming ok(ish), some games takes a little longer to load, others are FPS bounded by CPU (because I have a RTX 3060ti, I know it's a huge bottlenck) but overall runs everything pretty well, this third gen intel core are a reliable beast despite lack of AVX2 and AVX512.
I bought this CPU in 2012, I got rid of in in 2017 when I was fed up with it being absolutely demolished by BF1. couldn't hold a consistent 60fps in 64 player matches. The frame drops are pretty severe because of the 4 cores and no HT.
The i5 3570k was a belter of a chip. Overclocked like no ones buisness. I had mine at 4.6ghz. Had it paired with 2x evga 660 super clock in sli which were basically gimped 780's. Still have all that stuff. It's sitting there doing nothing lol
i had a 3570k at 4.2ghz paired with a HD 7950, came from a 2005 era pentium4 prebuilt and the leap was so insane i don't think it'll ever be replicated. it was my first custom build that lasted me all the way until 2018 when either it or the motherboard died and i switched to ryzen 2600. absolute legend of a cpu and i definitely could've kept it running longer, still have it laying around actually, might turn it into a keychain accessory.
Hi Steve, I've been following you for ages. We both had very similar systems with a pentium g3258 then upgrading to an i5 4460 then purely by coincidence. Love your content👍
I was wondering if you'd consider doing a video on a "budget gaming pc" containing a 4th gen i3 8gb of ram and a GT 1030. I've seen a few local and online stores selling these as their "entry level" gaming PCs and was curious as to what they could actually run.
Keep up the good work man
TIL his name is Steve, and not Random Gamingin H.D.
@@crocodilehole Glad to be of service
I am writing this post from a PC with 3750k which I refuse to replace. Until 6 months ago, it was accompanied with a GTX 670 and 16 GB of RAM. I changed to a RX 6600 and 32 GB and I guess that I will keep it for a couple more years.
As always, good job 👍
You'll do a head slap when you realize how much faster newer stuff is. Even browsing the internet or powering on your computer. She's a dinosaur.
My first Rig I built had a 3570k in it with 8 Gigs of Corsair Vengeance RAM just like what you got there, except I went with an AMD Radeon 7950 card. It lasted me until 2020... solid CPU.
The sandy & ivy bridge cpus are straight up legends
My main PC has a Intel core i7-9700K, Strix RTX 2070 Gaming OC, 32g ram and m2 ssd. And when my parents divorced I build another one of old parts I had laying around.
My plan was to use my dad's old i7-3770 but that thing shorted out for some reason, bricked the motherboard and broke the ram. Then I found my i5-3570K from my first ever PC and that one did work without bricking the motherboard. I paired it with a MSI GTX 1050 Ti , some cheap 10 bucks SSD and 16 gigs of ddr3 1600. And i'm surprised that the PC almost feels as fluid as my main PC with the 6 generations newer i7. When gaming I do notice a difference duh, but boot time, starting apps and overal windows experience I just as fast. It's an incredible 2012 CPU.
I sold my main gaming PC to upgrade recently, nothing amazing a 10600k with a 3060ti, I had an old socket 1155 Asus Z68 motherboard with a i5 3470 lying about, so to get by, I bought a 2600k for £30 and paired it with a RX 5700XT i had, and after overclocking it to 4.7GHz I was surprised how well it held up! It was holding back the 5700XT and I did get a few dips mid PUBG matches but it was perfectly serviceable. Paired with an older card it probably would do even better, its now going to make the bases of a retro Windows XP or 7 gaming PC paired with a GTX950, one of the last cards you can get official Windows XP drivers.
I went with an i3-4170 when skylake got released(around 5% difference at the time, but significantly higher cost mobo+cpu+ram) and later on upgraded to i7-4790, when games actually needed more than 4 threads. Paired with an OC version of GTX 950 that I got on sale for around 150€(the cheapest GTX 960 was around 220€ in my country) and I got a capable gaming PC with a clear upgrade path.
my pc is old but new. i built it a few months ago but it does everything i want it to do. (streaming recording and editing) its a core i7 2600 system with 32 gb of ram and an evga geforce gtx 680 (its the ultimate 2012 pc) but i love seeing people using older hardware as their main machines
I definitely appreciate your evaluation of this CPU. It (and it's Xeon equivalent) is still very capable for tons of great games. I do feel the need to call out one thing here - not really a criticism, but an observation based on your initial premise... "Picture this scene: it's 2012 and you want to build yourself a brand new gaming PC". You've paired this with what you call "a rather modest" 1650 GDDR6. The only thing I see wrong with this is the 1650 in question here is a good 250% the performance of even a GTX580.. having said that, I get that you're trying to show this is still quite capable in 2023, and it definitely appears to be.. so, nicely done.
I still use this cpu in my second computer, it was in my main rig before but swapped it for the xeon E3-1240 v2. Very good cpu even today! The Xeon is still a beast for me, equal to the i7 3770. (sorry for my english)
I've had an I5 3350p, from 2013 to 2021 in a prebuilt PC by Acer (Acer Aspire mc605) with an Nvidia GT 625 2gb GPU. Never replaced the thermal paste and only upgraded the RAM from 4gb to 8gb, whenever I gamed on it, the GPU would reach temps up to 103 Degrees Celsius, It still works today and my dad uses it.
If you're upgrading from one, 3rd-gen i5 systems make great NAS and Plex boxes (especially if you can do Hardware Transcoding). Alternatively, a cheap SSD boot drive and basically any recent GPU will make it an excellent and snappy hand-me-down PC.
I've been watching for so long, that I remember Steve recommending an i5 as one of the best processors for gaming. Time flies!
I find it pretty impressive that 10+ year old PCs can still run new games fairly decently. The 3570K is 11 years old and the GTX 580 is 13 years old! I remember a time where 10 years was a totally different world with computer hardware. Imagine in 2004 trying to run the latest games with a 1993 CPU and a 1991 GPU! HA! It wouldn't even being able to run Windows XP let alone any games! Around 2000 I had a high end system with a 1GHZ AMD processor and a GeForce 2 GTS 32MB for the GPU. It was a beast....for about 2 years. I had to upgrade sometime around late 2002 to early 2003. My main reason for wanting upgrade was the game Mafia. I loved that game but could only run it at lower settings. For my new PC I went with an Athlon XP 2800+ and for the GPU an ATI 9500. I remember the reason why I ended up choosing the ATI 9500. With some 9500s you could unlock extra pipelines and turn it into a 9700! It didn't work with all 9500s, some would display artifacts when the extra pipelines were unlocked. Luckily my unlocked with no artifacts and I had a 9700 for the price of a 9850! That was also the first PC I built myself. Those were good times.
Sandy bridge and Ivy bridge has had the most impressive lifetime I've ever seen for Cpu's .... I mean I'm still running my i7 2600k @ 4.8 Ghz with 32 Gb Ram and a RTX 3060 and I'm happily playing 1080p and 1440p high to ultra settings in games .... It usually don't dip under 45 fps average and with some games it actually uses the Gpu fully so bottlenecks are hit or miss with some games... I am though very overdue with a upgrade.
Loved mine old but gold, used it until about a year ago before upgrading
I recently upgraded from a 3770K, and honestly I did not need the upgrade, I have just replaced graphics cards over the years and it has worked just fine, but the system was getting old. I went for AMD 3800X3D and I plan to keep it as long as possible.
This video makes me miss my old 3570k. Had it running in a mini ITX build overclocked to 4.6GHz and even though it ran hot, it never gave me problems with the Noctua cooler i was using. Wish newer CPUs overclocked like the old ones used to...
Please do a follow up of this series with a 3770k with a same settings overclock? it would be interesting to see how much HT benefits titles that can take advantage of it :)
Yeah will do :)
@@RandomGaminginHD that would be awesome
Imma bit in doubt about 4.2GHz on it tbh. My guess it will kick as even in stock due to HT though...
@@andyshtroymish4997 it’s all about luck, some oc well, some don’t, I had a 2600k running at 4.5 last year that was extremely stable
Yes! I was going to ask the same thing.
love it - built my first PC with this chip, and it's still running games for my kids just fine with a 1650Super
I had an i5 3570K 4.5GHz from 2013 until 2021 (since 2015 with a GTX 970 and in 2020 I changed the 4x4GB 1600MHz memories for 2x8GB 2400MHz). The i5 3570K is a good CPU even for 60 FPS in several games, as Hardware parts in Brazil are expensive, I only changed the CPU for Ryzen 5 3600 because the i5 had a lot of stuttering in open world games like Gta 5 Online, AC Odyssey, AC Valhalla, State of Decay 2 and Red Dead Redemption 2. In RDR2 and AC Odyssey the CPU was at 100% usage several times, I needed to lock at 45 FPS in big cities to be able to play without stuttering. I sold my i5 3570K but in the future I will definitely buy an i7 3770K for my secondary PC.
Absolutely insane how 10 years now you still have a somewhat usable machine, back in 1990 when Amigas and Atari STs were around, 10 years earlier you had an ZX80.
And in 2000 a 10 year old PC would have been a 386 or Amiga/ST and none of these would have been able to run any moder games. In 2010 a Pentium III and Athlon Thunderbird would have been just barely good enought to run the latest version of Windows and that in a terribly slow speed.
was rocking my 3570 up until the end of 2019! Beast!
Excellent :)
This old boy is useable, tho i never OC it at the time, it ran VR games as well it could, of course stutters were a problem in VR games such as B&S/bonelab, even a 980 or 1070 could not fix that, overall if your playing modern games it still works great endless its CP2077 that game wants more cores. still riding a 3rd gen i7 3770k @4.4 with a 3060ti
A very interesting video. I always wonder how good these earlier Intel i5 4C4T CPU preforms. Before 2021 I was using an i5-4460 iMac as main computer and a Lenovo SFF prebuilt using i3-4130 with 1050ti for Windows only software/games. The i3+1050ti combo can handle almost every I throw at them except some CPU intensive games like City:Skylines. Later my iMac is broken and I replaced it with a R5 3600 system. it is so good that sometimes I would wonder what would happen if I built a PC with 1st gen Ryzen like R3 1200 instead of buying the 4130 prebuilt. Maybe a video of 3rd/4th Gen i5 vs 1st Gen R3 would be an interesting one.
I feel like they would be very tight. looking back at launch reviws, the 1200 was slower than a i3-7100 but could keep up with the i5-7400 in some games and had to compete with the Pentium G4560 in others.
It sits about where an FX-8370 is at stock, and with OC gets somewhere between a 2500K and 1300X, while the 2500K with OC creeps close to a i3-7300
So with overclocking those old Intels will outperform the Ryzen 1200 noticeably, And without, they will still outperform it. Well on some games, in others it runs away from even the 2600K
And there isn't much difference in performance between the SandyBridge, IvyBridge, Haswell, and even Skylake chips.
Only upgraded from this CPU late last year, what a soldier!
This was my first CPU ever! Bro this is nostalgic, paired it with a 7770 and played Black Ops 2 to my heart's content ❤️❤️❤️
Have a old I7 2600 in a system that just mostly used for general web browsing and some gaming on the side, still works well for me as a second computer
Another great video mate. Love these older chips. Mate has a i7 2600, ssd, 1050ti, 16gb ram. Plays all the free games (Fortnite, Apex, Valorant, Csgo etc) easily. Nice budget system.
To put things into perspective, the i5-3570K was what powered my pfsense router. I have since moved onto a Ryzen 5 3600 for that task. The i5-3570K was having major issues, and dropping connection, when downloading at more than 1Gbps (I have a 10Gbit internet connection).
It's about time to upgrade from this one. It's dead Jim.
Change out the GTX 1650 for an AMD GPU for better frames due to Nvidia Drive overhead on lower-end processors.
See Hardware Unboxed video on Nvidia driver overhead for more details
what's that 😟I'm hearing about this issue for the first time
@@LanaaAmor Yeah, there were actually some interesting videos on that.
It's a real problem, the rtx4090 is often outperformed by a 6950xt at 1080p by large margins even with fast cpus.
What gpu do you recommend
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The i3-12100 is faster than the i7-7700 in this video I'm linking. Sorry you got to copy and paste it otherwise youtube won't allow it the comment to be shown
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But if you take the time to watch the entire video you'll see on the lower-end intel cpu's the 6650 XT SMOKES the 4090 due to driver overhead in some games. Take a look at watchdogs as an example...
Hell yeah it can!
I was rockin' a 3570 until recently.
Had mine paired with a 1070 Ti, BTW- over 100% performance, above average, according to my UserBenchmarking.
In our household we have a 3570k and a 4790k still in use although we do have newer towers. The 3570k is paired with an Rx560 4gb, the 4790k has an Rtx 2060 12gb. We connected these older systems to TV's in bedrooms of our house, the visuals aren't as good as when using our newer PC's but it does allow for gaming in most areas of our home. Nvdia Geforce Now for games that they can't run well on their own.
Can't wait for the i7-6700 review!
i love old stuff running well, i have i7 4790 paired with 1070, it was my dream pc and have no plans to upgrade any time soon :D
Not bad for a 10+ year old processor and I reckon that 4.2GHz overclock was helping out quite a bit!
I like how you've now tested the main components of that entire PC you got, namely the CPU and GPU separately.
If I was going to build an older system, it would probably by X58, X79 or X99 because of the larger RAM and SATA capabilities of those boards. Having a board that can take up to 8 RAM sticks or up to 10 SATA connections is great for use as a NAS or similar, and of course there are also PCI-E adapters to convert to M.2 NVMe for a boot drive.
I had an i5 3570k I got used, till I upgraded to an used AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, currently overclocked to 4GHz all core, in 2019. That 3570K was a damn good processor. Mine actually ran great at 4.8GHz all core overclocked and slightly under volted. It and the Gigabyte Windforce R9 290 I had served me well, but I upgraded to my current 1600X and a Zotac GTX 1070. That said, recently upgraded to an EVGA 2080 Super Black Gaming Edition card and have found the processor as my bottleneck. Hoping to find and upgrade to a 3600X or 5600X in the near future.
why was it undervolted? What does it do?
That CPU was the first one i've bought to build my own gaming rig, with the GTX 680TI and the ASUS p8z77-m mother board and 4 corsair vengeance 4gb ram sticks inside the NZXT Phantom 410 midi tower. man i freaking loved that setup and it carried me for a long time!
Retired mine in 2020, ran since 2012 undervolted at 4ghz. Served me great for 8 years and is still a decent cpu to this day. Running in a pc for my nephew at stock clockspeed with a gtx 1050 ti where he plays fortnite, rocket league and forza horizon and the cpu handles it well mostly bottlenecked by the gpu.
For me it was time to move on from the cpu as even coupled with a rx 580 8gb it became more often then not that the cpu bottlenecked. First it started in prey, where i had to lower settings to reduce load on the cpu then it went on with assassins creed origins which seriously doesn´t run great on 4 cores.
Nowadays i don´t even have a desktop anymore and replaced it with a ryzen 7 5800h coupled with a rtx 3080 in a nice 15" laptop. Works for me and even cyberpunk runs like a charm.
Long story short, the rather high ipc makes the 3570k still a decent cpu, specially when overclocked in all games that don´t really utilize more then 4 cores. Lack of avx2 however will hurt it in some games where it bottoms out sooner rather then later.
And yes the i7 3770k would have been the more future proof choice back then... but if you look at the i5´s 8 years of service then you can hardly say i didn´t get the value out of it.
I just put together a machine with the 4th gen i7 4790 (non-k) and a GTX 980 for my nephews to play fortnite. 120+ FPS on performance mode and buttery smooth. These older cpu's still have a fair bit of horsepower!
I have one of these - updating to Ryzen on a new motherboard setup but it absolutely works. Got it to 4.4GHz, runs games like The Sims and Wolfenstein with no lag, even CSGO etc. Even got Hogwarts Legacy going with no substantial lag on Low. Had a RX480 as well, worked as a good setup. For £15 (from CEX) it's absolutely worth buying imo
I have an old pc with a gigabyte ga-z77-d3h i5-3570K running an oc of 4.3ghz and a gtx 1050 ti. Runs like a dream 👌🏻 I was on quroa cpu assistant the other day, and it advised me that the best suitable gpu would be an rtx 3060! Wondering if anyone has ever tried this pair up and if it actually runs ok. I play fortnite, cod, siege, asassins creed etc
Three months ago I bought XFX RX6800 for my 3570K. Since then I've played a couple of AAA games, incl Plague Tale: Requiem and God of War on my 3440x1400 monitor on max settings (ultra or whatever they're called) w/o any discomfort. Yes, I have hidden potential that'll be unlocked when I change the whole rig, but do not be mistaken: 3570K has enough juice to drive high end GPU and leave you wondering, "Do I REALLY have to pay for new mobo/cpu/ram?" I don't play competitively and do not need 200+ fps so everything above 60 suits me well...
The budget builds I'm currently selling are i5 4590s and 4670s, 16gb of ddr3, and an RX 470/480/570/580s or a GTX 1060, plus an SSD. Probably as low as you want to go and still play modern games. But, it can get someone PC gaming for surprisingly little money and parts are readily available. It lets me sell ready-to-go systems to people who simply wouldn't have any PC gaming option otherwise. Margins aren't great since I keep the prices low but the demand is high. - If someone were to build their own I'd probably suggest something different though.
just picked up this system for 40€:
3570k,
16gb,
asrock z77 extreme,
GTX 970,
gigantic topblower with 140mm noctua fan,
2x120mm noctua case fans,
coolermaster silencio 550 case,
550w bequiet,
blueray writer,
5" hotswap bay for 3.5" HDDs
CPU does 4.4GHz with stock voltage. gonna try to get it higher the next days.
planning to just put an SSD in there with a fresh win10 and resell it for like 140€.
almost hesitant to sell it as it is such a beatiful well build system
Currently rebuilding a spare rig with my old 4790k. That chip still kicks some. I ran Microsoft Flight Simulator through it and it worked remarkably well