I'm guessing u didn't watch the 2nd 60 roll🤷♂️ or the last 50 roll imagine with slight tune on the m2. U can't really tune the tesla. The real question is which car would u take if they offered both for free
@@mushy1983123 Who cares about a tune though? Not everyone wants to void their warranty? I have a G80 i don't care at all for an M2 i think it's a weird car to be honest. But maybe that's the inner BMW douchebag in me that's thinking that. That said yes i would absolutely pick the new M3P over an M2 if given one for free. Like i said the M3P makes a sick daily! I have a tesla already for a daily but not the new M3P.
@theguy1224 well once warranty runs out alot of people will be tuning the m2 or m3 platform. Alot of people a tuning then b4 warranty runs out. Tesla won't be as quick once they start to age. From what I've seen Tesla has poor interior quality other the German brands so it's not always about straight line performance
Electric motor is just so instant with torque. Impressive for the Tesla for sure. Still love the M2, even on a stock build and no tune! Good clean rolls
@@ganuv Depends on how you define "win", I would say in normal legal speed driving in US, M3P would win every time. Sure the M3P starts to fade and M2 starts to close the gap well above legal speeds, but that's irrelevant.
How did the m2 lose? It's the faster car. None of this racing stuff is real world. But when u do race it's whoever finishes in the lead. The m2 was always passing the model 3. U guys want to re define what faster means.
excellent runs. As the bat % drops, the 0-60s doesn't get affected as much as 60-120mhp. I can notice that on mine and it's also documented on several channels on youtube. But even at 100% after 110mph the M2 would pull harder I'd think
I've driven both. Model 3 performances stupid fast. But sitting in and driving the M2, especially with a manual transmission, is far more fun and enjoyable. I drive for me, not to race people on the street. They're both awesome cars but the feeling and enjoyment you get from driving in the M2 is worth every penny.
I love both of these cars and have owned both in the past. That Model 3P is the best performance bargain in history. I still love the M2, just a brilliant overall car. For normal day to day driving, you can't beat the instant acceleration of a Tesla but in the mountains and canyons, the M2 has the edge.
Any chance you could set up this same test with the old Model 3 Performance? I think that could be helpful in displaying truly how much better the new one is
M3P will do better if the battery is preconditiond and a higher state of charge Ive seen 124-125mph in the 1/4 and 60-130 in the 8 sec range on the Dragy leaderboards But still this test is more the typical state the Tesla would be in.
Hardly real world. The m2 would of done better if it has the m driver pack giving it better top end. Simple tune though and the model 3 is screwed . Preconditioned or not. It's 60-130 is high 9s for the tesla
@@AlexisUrena that's becuase it's RWD. If u give just the slightest tune to a XDrive comp whether it be a real flash tune got 1500$ or a race chip or jb4 for 500$ it's smoking the tesla.
only 70% SOC? Also, did you preheat battery (navigate to supercharger)? Very easy to keep car above 80% if just driving around town trolling for races and its a little more powerful above 80.
6:06 I believe not so much horsepower peaking from the BMW M2, but rather the BMW M2 has more Gears to run at higher speeds which in turn makes it more efficient to run at higher speeds. Unlike the M3P which only has 1 Fixed Gear.
Thats exactly what it is, the Tesla makes less and less power as speed increases because its engine doesn't make power up there and doesn't have another gear.
A video not seen on the internet ( I can't think of any) is the 2024 performance vs the 2024 long range model 3... model 3 performance in the USA is the only one with 510hp. Would be cool to see them line up from a dig, but especially a roll because the old m3p vs old lr m3 was identical past 60 ish mph
Looks like 135+ m2 starts to have an advantage (2:40), no surprise. Those new M2's are so fast in stock form. E85 tune and it would be flying. Would love to see more content of the 2024 Tesla m3 Performance
Really interesting video, I wasn’t sure what to expect. I did notice that you (M2) started most of the races at too high of an rpm which made you have to shift almost immediately after starting. I looked up a dyno sheet of the M2 and saw that it carries the same peak power from around 5.7K rpm so being in the gear that starts you off at that rpm is likely how you close the gap much sooner. Both cars look like they’re a blast!
Did the Tesla heat the battery? Navigating to a Supercharger can add as much as 80 HP for the 60-130 mph. If you monitor the Tesla through Canbus you will see that it can actually go all the way to 613 HP at the battery if the battery is hot enough. Cold battery just kills the straight line acceleration. SOC doesn’t matter anywhere near as much as heating the battery does.
@ I have a bunch of videos on my channel about it. My Model 3 went 10.75 @ 126+ mph full weight in the 1/4 mile and 10.63 @ 127+ mph with weight reductions. However, you have to get that battery really hot to reach the full horsepower potential.
IMO, ICE vehicles build a better load throughout the RPM. Meanwhile, an EV has a big jump boost, but as you can see, it becomes a constant, not gaining any faster speed than it already did.
I watch all these drags and love them. I have the LCI G87 M2 and really would love if you managed to get one on the channel to drag to see the real world difference of the extra “20BHP”!
I was so impressed with the M2. I thought the Performance Model 3 would destroy it but it really didn’t. Electric cars have 100% torque immediately at any speed. It’s tough to compare gas vs electric but you did a great job. Given the choice, I’d still take the M2. Great video…thanks.
So the M2 wins once the race becomes reckless driving speeds. Here in Texas they just take the cars no matter what the speed if they catch you street racing.
Hahaha it’s funny how he says he needs to be faster on the start so he jumps the start on the second honk😂 The Tesla has No Transmission so it maxes out at higher RPMs, they don’t typically need to be fast over 130-140
You can see the German influence of the BMW. Its made for high speed Autobahns, so it pulls hard above 60 mph and keeps pulling harder as the speeds increase.
High speed power & stability of M2 is absolutely useless in the U.S. but here in Germany, I struggle with my 2022 TM3P at over 140mph on the Autobahn against M's, RSs and AMG's.
@@audioman205I would butcher that shit. And where i live in Tn you wouldn’t save any money going to a reputable shop. I got the FSD software for $500 dollars going with the white. Total was $55k, with the destination fee and taxes you’re looking at almost 63k The stealth grey color without FSD will run you $54-55k all in. I never use FSD, But when I do… That shit is epic
would be interesting to see what the difference at 90%+ SoC and pre-conditioning of the battery would do in a similar comparison But that is for me not a "valid" measurement as if anyone would pre-condition their car randomly :D Both are great cars for what they are!
Can u test the m2 against the previous gen m3p? I did a roll against one and got smoked at low speed and have been dying to see how they stack up against eachother.
At low speed it should jump out on the M2 but if you go into triple digits speeds the M2 will walk it. I'll test if I ever find someone with one that's down. I raced one with my Mustang GT here - ruclips.net/video/jGjaJ0lxjQI/видео.html
Very nice comparison. Tesla definitely improved with their new M3P, it’s impressive how it keeps pulling over 100mph. But an ICE car with a good amount of power shines on the top end so this is expected. So to sum up in a quarter mile and most racing scenarios the M3P is faster, but at half mile and much higher speeds the M2 is faster. That’s what makes the M3P a great daily though and have an ICE car for track/ mod use. Best of both worlds and that’s the choice I made 💯
ev's have no gears technically so it takes them longer to hit that top end but ev's arent meant for high top speed like ice cars. other than the plaid and lucid but thats about it. imagine if the ev motors were connected to a 8 or 10 speeds lol
Ur a very smart man in getting a daily and a weekend fun car besides spending it all on a very expensive single car. If i were in ur position id be getting a 100k dream car then probably losing my ass on it with the mileage. 😂
Yeah exactly. Plus, I like having 2. Each one feels so much different from each other and you can appreciate it more when you're not driving the same car every day.
Nice improvement for Tesla on the M3P. Unfortunately only the American market gets the better motors and battery pack so everywhere else, the M3P is lagging. I wonder how this race would go with M3 comp vs Tesla 🤔
When the battery level drops to 60-70%, the M3P has already lost over 80-100 horsepower. I don’t quite understand why they wouldn’t fully charge the battery before doing a race test?
@ dp e50 Supra and a 370z but look I don’t know wats going on but all the videos I see of the 2024 m3p 60-130 run 10s-high 9s so yeah and the Supra u raced wasn’t even tuned I look at the speedo he’s doing 12s 60-130 that’s the same Time when my car was stock 😂 , like I said even my worst time I’m in low 8s best 7.5 also eveyone knows that dp e50 Supra will beat any m3 ,m4 ect stock even if they are tuned but once u add ethanol then Thant’s a different story. I love the s58 mod for mod it’s superior but if u wanna go fast fast then the B58 is better the faster bmw is the Supra 7.6 1/4mile
LOL. Worse case scenario starting at 70 percent state of charge and you can see the car gradually gets slower and slower after each race. This isn’t really demonstrating what the model 3 is capable of. Also a lot of these races it looks like the model 3 is behind the m2. Every race after the first is just sandbagging the model 3 more and more.
@@JVette01 Sorry - I edited a few times and it came out unclear. Bottom line, my point was that the Model 3 is a 10 second car and these roll races really aren't demonstrating what it's really capable of due to the fact it started at 70% SOC. But what makes it worse is as you're watching, you start to think the BMW has a huge advantage at higher speeds. Instead what I believe we're really watching is the Model 3 is getting slower and slower due to SOC and battery temps. Don't get me wrong - the Model 3 will start to lose advantages at higher speeds, but not as severely as this video shows. For example, if the first run you did was from 60 MPH it wouldn't been nearly as close as some of the later runs you did from 60 mph. I'm a huge M2/M3 fan, but even from a roll, with both the Model 3 and M2 in the best conditions (cool day & right gear/high state of charge), the M2 is going to get walked hard. In 1/4, Model 3 traps about 5 MPH faster. I think it would be interesting to see a rematch from 60 MPH - 130 with a higher state of charge (80-90%).
If the SOC goes down, say, 5% throughout the races, It's not gonna drastically change anything... but I do agree it would perform better at 100% of course
also if you pre heat the battery you get peak hp and torque and its a difference in power. but anything above 80. its a difference in power. but then again this is more real world testing
Tesla should have been near 100% for this, how much of a difference would it make? But you don't have 93. Run it back with e30 and the Tesla at least 95%
Makes no sense. M2 and T M3P 2024 weighs about the same but tesla has reported 510 horses vs. 473 for M2 with 0-60 mph time of 4.1 seconds. I know the 0-60 and quarter mile Tesla will kill the m2 easily. but these 40, 50, 60mph rolling starts - the key is maximum horses/weight - so no way Tesla loses in almost any scenario. Was the the tesla not in the SPORT mode?
I hate when people brake after they start losing 😂😂 good races though the m2 kept up well up top considering its lower on HP. A m4 comp would be a great race
I've already raced a M4 Comp RWD and it's pretty much neck and neck. There's not a big difference even though BMW claims the M2 has "50 less hp." ruclips.net/video/26cNTtokckU/видео.html
@JVette01 yea that was weird though becuase "supposedly" the RWD is faster from a roll but the XDrive one u raced before that gapped u alot harder. Just depends on the day and if the car is running properly and alot of other variables. I think the XDrive race u did with the m3 or m4 showed the difference more accurate forsure.
It *should* with 50 more hp.. but it doesn't in my experience. I've raced several.. since they weigh pretty much the same, a true 50hp difference would mean the M2 gets gapped hard but it doesn't.
I love you videos, but it’s kind of 🐓 to not do a dig race. Yes, we all know what would happen but that has never stopped you before in other cars. I think it a little deceiving to show only races that have a slight edge for one car, and then purposely leave off a race that would show multiple bus lengths.
It’s literally a waste of gas. I’d accelerate to like 60mph then let off. There’s no point. I’m fully aware the m3p that does a sub 3 second 0-60 will beat the m2
Yesir people wanna re imagine what a faster car means. A Bugatti was always the fastest car becuase it's top speed. Not a fast 0-60 time. M2 is clearly the "faster" car and the one I'd wanna be in if it was a police chase 😂😂
I'd actually rather be in the Tesla. Blends in more with traffic and you can take off without making noise or drawing attention. Also, the Tesla is limited to 163 whereas the M2 is 155. Just saying
@@JVette01 damn the m2 is limited to 155? Is that with or without M drivers pack? My m4 does 185.. and nah the tesla would be trash in a chase the only way to get away is hitting the highway .. teslas top end is terrible unless it's a model s plaid. Plus then u have to factor in the model 3 battery overheating if u push it to hard which is a huge problem for the new model. Which I think ur forgetting.
That's all hypothetical nonsense.. shouldn't be running from police anyway.. that's an unrealistic scenario.. and yes, My M2 (and all other m3/m4) are limited to 155 without the driver's package.
@@JVette01 end was just a joke. The fact the model 3 has a higher top speed then ur spec m2 and u still pulled top end says alot. Should of had u from start to finish. U should just cop the model 3 performance! Seems like it suites u better.
Yeah, but here in Mexico we don't have the autobahn :/ and 90% of the time the Tesla will beat the M2 if you find one on the street. The M2 has to react perfectly and have the car in all the right modes whereas the Tesla just floors it.
@ms3ben Till what state of charge, though, if you're cranking along at those speeds! Seems like it would be frustrating af with Tesla ownership in general when max power is desired!!
Honestly the 3 performance doesn't have too much of a top end difference than the long range. great races the bmw top end is undefeated! Id be curious to see long range vs performance on a 60 roll.
We will set that up eventually! However, in my experience with my Long Range, the SOC affects your top end pretty significantly. Each 10% is roughly 10hp and 1mph in trap speed in my testing.
@@kchen101 I was comparing the second 60 roll to the other video where he races the LR and the m2 but yeah no doubt performance is faster. I have a 2021 long range and even that feels quick.
In pathetic Australia with the gay low speed limits the Tesla wins on any road or freeway. Have owned both was a BMW fanboy owning many M cars (2,3,4,5) but the Tesla for day to day is just better. Miss the engine noise and slightly better interiors but tbh day to day boring traffic Tesla kicks ass
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The silent killer putting in work on the M2!😅
I know! Haha
New M3P is a mini plaid. Everything has improved. 0-60, 0-100, 60-130. It's an awesome daily!
I'm guessing u didn't watch the 2nd 60 roll🤷♂️ or the last 50 roll imagine with slight tune on the m2. U can't really tune the tesla. The real question is which car would u take if they offered both for free
@@mushy1983123 Who cares about a tune though? Not everyone wants to void their warranty? I have a G80 i don't care at all for an M2 i think it's a weird car to be honest. But maybe that's the inner BMW douchebag in me that's thinking that. That said yes i would absolutely pick the new M3P over an M2 if given one for free. Like i said the M3P makes a sick daily! I have a tesla already for a daily but not the new M3P.
@theguy1224 well once warranty runs out alot of people will be tuning the m2 or m3 platform. Alot of people a tuning then b4 warranty runs out. Tesla won't be as quick once they start to age. From what I've seen Tesla has poor interior quality other the German brands so it's not always about straight line performance
Wow, sad to see your M2 lose, but I really did not expect the new M3P to be pulling so quick even on a roll.
Electric motor is just so instant with torque. Impressive for the Tesla for sure. Still love the M2, even on a stock build and no tune! Good clean rolls
Where did you see him lose he was pulling on the m3p every pull
@@ganuv Depends on how you define "win", I would say in normal legal speed driving in US, M3P would win every time. Sure the M3P starts to fade and M2 starts to close the gap well above legal speeds, but that's irrelevant.
Poor fuel in the M2 91 Octane? Map it and put some good fuel in and the Tesla doesn’t have a chance. And most of these M cars go stage 1 at least.
How did the m2 lose? It's the faster car. None of this racing stuff is real world. But when u do race it's whoever finishes in the lead. The m2 was always passing the model 3. U guys want to re define what faster means.
That new Tesla is no joke
Put the BMW up against the Plaid and it’s game over For all BMW models!
@@GM-qh2ki True, when comparing stock vs stock.
Band for Band BMW vs Plaid BMW wins
excellent runs. As the bat % drops, the 0-60s doesn't get affected as much as 60-120mhp. I can notice that on mine and it's also documented on several channels on youtube. But even at 100% after 110mph the M2 would pull harder I'd think
Possibly. It gets such a big jump from lower speeds it takes a lot to overcome it.. however if both cars started at 100mph it may be closer
@@JVette01 No one does this that has a shred of intelligence.
I understand no one does a “100 roll” I was just using it as a hypothetical..
I've driven both. Model 3 performances stupid fast. But sitting in and driving the M2, especially with a manual transmission, is far more fun and enjoyable. I drive for me, not to race people on the street. They're both awesome cars but the feeling and enjoyment you get from driving in the M2 is worth every penny.
What are your pronouns?
I love both of these cars and have owned both in the past. That Model 3P is the best performance bargain in history. I still love the M2, just a brilliant overall car. For normal day to day driving, you can't beat the instant acceleration of a Tesla but in the mountains and canyons, the M2 has the edge.
Mexico looks a lot like Vegas. 😉
Any chance you could set up this same test with the old Model 3 Performance? I think that could be helpful in displaying truly how much better the new one is
If I get a chance
M3P will do better if the battery is preconditiond and a higher state of charge
Ive seen 124-125mph in the 1/4 and 60-130 in the 8 sec range on the Dragy leaderboards
But still this test is more the typical state the Tesla would be in.
Mine did a 10.84@126 95% SOC, preconditioned.
Hardly real world. The m2 would of done better if it has the m driver pack giving it better top end. Simple tune though and the model 3 is screwed . Preconditioned or not. It's 60-130 is high 9s for the tesla
@@PEACEOUTXX1 No matter what you do to that M2, it is absolutely no match to the M3P from a dig.
@@AlexisUrena that's becuase it's RWD. If u give just the slightest tune to a XDrive comp whether it be a real flash tune got 1500$ or a race chip or jb4 for 500$ it's smoking the tesla.
@@PEACEOUTXX1Even AWD M2/3 does not beat M3P to 60. 0-60 have been recorded well under 3 seconds for this model.
only 70% SOC? Also, did you preheat battery (navigate to supercharger)? Very easy to keep car above 80% if just driving around town trolling for races and its a little more powerful above 80.
4:50 THIS GUY SHOULD BE A REPORTER! HE EXPLAINED EVERYTHING EXTREMELY WELL WOW WTF
Bro that what I said too 😂
6:06 I believe not so much horsepower peaking from the BMW M2, but rather the BMW M2 has more Gears to run at higher speeds which in turn makes it more efficient to run at higher speeds. Unlike the M3P which only has 1 Fixed Gear.
Good point!
Very good point!!
Thats exactly what it is, the Tesla makes less and less power as speed increases because its engine doesn't make power up there and doesn't have another gear.
A video not seen on the internet ( I can't think of any) is the 2024 performance vs the 2024 long range model 3... model 3 performance in the USA is the only one with 510hp. Would be cool to see them line up from a dig, but especially a roll because the old m3p vs old lr m3 was identical past 60 ish mph
Yeah I’ll set that up if I get the chance
Looks like 135+ m2 starts to have an advantage (2:40), no surprise. Those new M2's are so fast in stock form. E85 tune and it would be flying. Would love to see more content of the 2024 Tesla m3 Performance
Really interesting video, I wasn’t sure what to expect. I did notice that you (M2) started most of the races at too high of an rpm which made you have to shift almost immediately after starting. I looked up a dyno sheet of the M2 and saw that it carries the same peak power from around 5.7K rpm so being in the gear that starts you off at that rpm is likely how you close the gap much sooner. Both cars look like they’re a blast!
Did the Tesla heat the battery? Navigating to a Supercharger can add as much as 80 HP for the 60-130 mph. If you monitor the Tesla through Canbus you will see that it can actually go all the way to 613 HP at the battery if the battery is hot enough. Cold battery just kills the straight line acceleration. SOC doesn’t matter anywhere near as much as heating the battery does.
Interesting.
@ I have a bunch of videos on my channel about it. My Model 3 went 10.75 @ 126+ mph full weight in the 1/4 mile and 10.63 @ 127+ mph with weight reductions. However, you have to get that battery really hot to reach the full horsepower potential.
@@LearningFast That's crazy stuff!😄
GOOD FIND!
@LearningFast Nice glad to see you on this channel!
IMO, ICE vehicles build a better load throughout the RPM. Meanwhile, an EV has a big jump boost, but as you can see, it becomes a constant, not gaining any faster speed than it already did.
I watch all these drags and love them. I have the LCI G87 M2 and really would love if you managed to get one on the channel to drag to see the real world difference of the extra “20BHP”!
I’d love to test that if someone near me was down
I was so impressed with the M2. I thought the Performance Model 3 would destroy it but it really didn’t. Electric cars have 100% torque immediately at any speed. It’s tough to compare gas vs electric but you did a great job. Given the choice, I’d still take the M2. Great video…thanks.
Model 3 does destroy it. Especially at peak power, its fastest at 85+ but the m2 needed an advantage despite having a weight advantage
So the M2 wins once the race becomes reckless driving speeds. Here in Texas they just take the cars no matter what the speed if they catch you street racing.
letting the new Tesla m3p preheat before a race will make the HP go from 510 to 630 HP...
To be able to hold off the mighty m2 up to 140mph is impressive for the model 3 since that car seems to shine in the 0-100mph category.
Hahaha it’s funny how he says he needs to be faster on the start so he jumps the start on the second honk😂 The Tesla has No Transmission so it maxes out at higher RPMs, they don’t typically need to be fast over 130-140
You can see the German influence of the BMW. Its made for high speed Autobahns, so it pulls hard above 60 mph and keeps pulling harder as the speeds increase.
High speed power & stability of M2 is absolutely useless in the U.S. but here in Germany, I struggle with my 2022 TM3P at over 140mph on the Autobahn against M's, RSs and AMG's.
And one is 47k after rebate…
I just bought a white one for $62,500 after taxes lol. 49k after tax credit is only for one color.
@@deanprater12seems silly when you could wrap it yourself in a weekend for under $1k
@@audioman205I would butcher that shit. And where i live in Tn you wouldn’t save any money going to a reputable shop. I got the FSD software for $500 dollars going with the white. Total was $55k, with the destination fee and taxes you’re looking at almost 63k
The stealth grey color without FSD will run you $54-55k all in.
I never use FSD, But when I do… That shit is epic
@@deanprater12 I don't think white is worth 10K assuming you would have qualified for the tax credit.
And the other handles better and is more fun to drive lol
The funny thing is that the "drag" car of the 2 coupe is a tuned M240 xDrive.
Thanks for showing this! Interesting to watch! The M3LR is losing everytime while this M3P model is actually pulling, there goes the price difference
Pretty comprehensive win at not insane speeds. I knew m2 was in trouble seeing how the LR did lol.
Yup.. Dig would be a waste of gas and electricity because the Tesla will be done with the race before I get to 60mph haha
6:30 amazing you brought up the battery percentage
Good comparisons on various speeds for the M2 and M3P 2024 model. Insane mode for the M3P ?
Yes
Would be great to see you run it back against the M3P after its precondition and at 90+% soc, at its most optimal state, especially top-end.
Yeah it would probably be faster than the m2 tbh. It’s good to see both. Realistic 70-77% no pre condition and perfectly optimized battery.
Fantastic driving! What settings were you using, and was DSC off?
I talk about all the drive modes and which ones I use in this video- ruclips.net/video/vjw6mhhxR4Q/видео.htmlsi=Jt7yy31cHDyr9QIN
Did you do track mode on the the tesla?
No. Track mode makes it slower anyway since it cools the battery
I would love to see the same race but with the Tesla at 90% charge or higher. It would really change the top end results
Great video and love how transparent you are with every race / test!
absolutely!
Nice video - after the LR AWD, this was definitely on my mind. BMW M2 is a nice car! :D
Couldn't agree more!
Speed limit signs in Mexico are posted in Kilometers per hour not MPH.😂
You’d be surprised
😂👍
Impressive. Would like to see S58 tuned how it would do.
Awesome video bro!
Good video ! I guess not timing the “hit” and going on 3 at a 40-50 roll you aren’t catching up on regular city driving lol.
Correct. The Tesla will win in 90% of driving scenarios.
You should do a video on how to launch the M2.
I have a G87 and for the life of me I can never get it into launch control.
It’s very easy. Maybe I’ll make a short on it.
would be interesting to see what the difference at 90%+ SoC and pre-conditioning of the battery would do in a similar comparison
But that is for me not a "valid" measurement as if anyone would pre-condition their car randomly :D
Both are great cars for what they are!
Can u test the m2 against the previous gen m3p? I did a roll against one and got smoked at low speed and have been dying to see how they stack up against eachother.
At low speed it should jump out on the M2 but if you go into triple digits speeds the M2 will walk it. I'll test if I ever find someone with one that's down. I raced one with my Mustang GT here - ruclips.net/video/jGjaJ0lxjQI/видео.html
Good info. I was wondering how my 600whp 335is would do against my friends new m3p 2024🤔🤔
It will probably beat you at low speeds and you’ll reel it in. Also depends on your traction, powerband, and gearing
Very nice comparison. Tesla definitely improved with their new M3P, it’s impressive how it keeps pulling over 100mph. But an ICE car with a good amount of power shines on the top end so this is expected. So to sum up in a quarter mile and most racing scenarios the M3P is faster, but at half mile and much higher speeds the M2 is faster. That’s what makes the M3P a great daily though and have an ICE car for track/ mod use. Best of both worlds and that’s the choice I made 💯
ev's have no gears technically so it takes them longer to hit that top end but ev's arent meant for high top speed like ice cars. other than the plaid and lucid but thats about it. imagine if the ev motors were connected to a 8 or 10 speeds lol
@Fumbiii16 agreed! If EVs had gear ratios that would be crazy haha 😂
Ur a very smart man in getting a daily and a weekend fun car besides spending it all on a very expensive single car. If i were in ur position id be getting a 100k dream car then probably losing my ass on it with the mileage. 😂
Yeah exactly. Plus, I like having 2. Each one feels so much different from each other and you can appreciate it more when you're not driving the same car every day.
20% more expensive and 10% slower. We have certainly reached an inflection point
lol both cars offer a different experience.
@@JVette01 yeah if you consider buyer's remorse as an experience.
?? So confused
Nice improvement for Tesla on the M3P. Unfortunately only the American market gets the better motors and battery pack so everywhere else, the M3P is lagging. I wonder how this race would go with M3 comp vs Tesla 🤔
M3 Comp xDrive and Model 3 Performance are very close in both roll and dig. The BMW will pull past 130 though.
The motors are the same. It's the battery pack that is different.
@@Themazcorner my bad, thought they kept the same rear motor as previous gen
tesla is impressive for the price, tech, running cost and in real life race without going over 100 mph jail speed for most places.
Nice runs dude!
Now do the Model S Plaid.
What’s the point?
@@JVette01 So you can see it trash the BWM or course.
You’re dumb. Why race a car with more than twice the hp. That’s not even fun to watch. Close matchups are the best.
Get that battery pre conditioned otherwise the top end power will decrease significantly. That model 3 can do way better than that
Is this an m2 comp?
No… a quick google search would tell you that there is no comp version for the new G87 M2
Another video showcasing the m2 only having "453hp"
hehe
I mean I’ve been watching all the videos and you have been the only one that noticed no one else
Good race, you should do a roll with a base model vette next. Close in price range.
Coming soon! Stay tuned
When the battery level drops to 60-70%, the M3P has already lost over 80-100 horsepower. I don’t quite understand why they wouldn’t fully charge the battery before doing a race test?
I doubt it 100hp difference..
Still have the M2 any day.
The only advantage that the M2 has in a straightline is that it can be modified.
FYI its not so much state of charge its more about battery temp. If he were to precondition his battery it will perform better.
Thanks for the tip
The result: In real life, M2 would not know which way Tesla M3P went as it is so much quicker in any speed under 130 mph
nah. in real life. Tesla is still gay shit car, meanwhile the M2 is a cool car
Hmm crazy I raced m3p and it got beat badly 🤷♂️
What do you own?
@ dp e50 Supra and a 370z but look I don’t know wats going on but all the videos I see of the 2024 m3p 60-130 run 10s-high 9s so yeah and the Supra u raced wasn’t even tuned I look at the speedo he’s doing 12s 60-130 that’s the same Time when my car was stock 😂 , like I said even my worst time I’m in low 8s best 7.5 also eveyone knows that dp e50 Supra will beat any m3 ,m4 ect stock even if they are tuned but once u add ethanol then Thant’s a different story. I love the s58 mod for mod it’s superior but if u wanna go fast fast then the B58 is better the faster bmw is the Supra 7.6 1/4mile
Tesla is faster for all intensive purposes, but…. Give that m2 a tune and its wrap!!! M2 all day
Love the vid man!!
Appreciate it!
Can you do 2025 Hyundai Ioniq 5N vs M2?..after 100mph, it'll be more powerful then the new Model3P.
I don’t think that’s true
Should of done a dig that would have been really embarrassing 😂
It’s not even a race 😂 and my rear tires need replacing which would make it even worse.
@@JVette01 real race is a from a dig ... 100percent
LOL. Worse case scenario starting at 70 percent state of charge and you can see the car gradually gets slower and slower after each race. This isn’t really demonstrating what the model 3 is capable of. Also a lot of these races it looks like the model 3 is behind the m2. Every race after the first is just sandbagging the model 3 more and more.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
@@JVette01 Sorry - I edited a few times and it came out unclear. Bottom line, my point was that the Model 3 is a 10 second car and these roll races really aren't demonstrating what it's really capable of due to the fact it started at 70% SOC. But what makes it worse is as you're watching, you start to think the BMW has a huge advantage at higher speeds. Instead what I believe we're really watching is the Model 3 is getting slower and slower due to SOC and battery temps. Don't get me wrong - the Model 3 will start to lose advantages at higher speeds, but not as severely as this video shows. For example, if the first run you did was from 60 MPH it wouldn't been nearly as close as some of the later runs you did from 60 mph. I'm a huge M2/M3 fan, but even from a roll, with both the Model 3 and M2 in the best conditions (cool day & right gear/high state of charge), the M2 is going to get walked hard. In 1/4, Model 3 traps about 5 MPH faster. I think it would be interesting to see a rematch from 60 MPH - 130 with a higher state of charge (80-90%).
If the SOC goes down, say, 5% throughout the races, It's not gonna drastically change anything... but I do agree it would perform better at 100% of course
also if you pre heat the battery you get peak hp and torque and its a difference in power. but anything above 80. its a difference in power. but then again this is more real world testing
The Tesla plaid will eat every single BMW made from 0 to 150 mph!
This is a race between a model 3 performance and a M2. No one is talking about the plaid
The M2 finally loses to something! Well, almost 🤣
Roll racing is for clowns. Either your car is fast or it isn't
Roll racing gives an accurate representation of which car is faster. With a 0-60 it’s mainly up to traction.
Hell yea!
Silent but deadly
Short distance ... TESLA WINS ... LONG DISTANCE BM MAY CATCH UP
Tesla should have been near 100% for this, how much of a difference would it make? But you don't have 93. Run it back with e30 and the Tesla at least 95%
My assumption is it would’ve been able to stay up front til the end of this road. Every 10% is about 10hp/1mph in trap speed in my experience.
Makes no sense. M2 and T M3P 2024 weighs about the same but tesla has reported 510 horses vs. 473 for M2 with 0-60 mph time of 4.1 seconds. I know the 0-60 and quarter mile Tesla will kill the m2 easily. but these 40, 50, 60mph rolling starts - the key is maximum horses/weight - so no way Tesla loses in almost any scenario. Was the the tesla not in the SPORT mode?
The fastest mode is called “insane” and this is how it performs on 70% soc vs a stock M2. And mine is rated for 453
The new Tesla's a 1/4 11 sec car, so this was a given. PS Time to tune the M2 mate.😁
Actually it’s high/mid 10s car
EV owner here and I have to say that's most annoying thing about the performance. 🙄
What’s the most annoying thing?
An Ioniq 5N might have a winning chance
Nope, new model 3P is faster.
I have ordered my m3p today, sadly we have the less powerful version here in the Eu
I have drove the uk spec one and it’s no way as fast as this I have an m4 x drive and it was no where near as fast as
UK ones are slower
The M3P is $55K; how much is your BMW M2?
71k
Model 3 is quick, not fast. That's why I had to sell mine and go Plaid
The plaid is too fast imo.. It doesn’t have the braking nor handling for the amount of speed. However, the one I drove was without the track package.
These races don’t really make much sense unless you charge the Tesla to 100%
How does it not make sense? You can’t drive around on 100% all the time.
@ I mean just for the racing purposes
If anything, these races are more real world. But yes, I asked him to charge it to full before the race and he showed up with 70%
@@JVette01 where you located… I got a 2024 m3p… we can run it back…I’ll charge to 100%. I stay in SoCal
In the Vegas part of Mexico.. but I could just run it back with my buddy if I felt the need
I used to shit on Tesla but I’m about to trade in my 2 series after watching this. Don’t forget that the Tesla is way cheaper and has 4 doors!
M3 failed in any metrics and costs too much. The played in same price category will pulverized this BMW whatsoever.
Why you dont compare the 0-100
I hate when people brake after they start losing 😂😂 good races though the m2 kept up well up top considering its lower on HP. A m4 comp would be a great race
I've already raced a M4 Comp RWD and it's pretty much neck and neck. There's not a big difference even though BMW claims the M2 has "50 less hp." ruclips.net/video/26cNTtokckU/видео.html
@JVette01 yea that was weird though becuase "supposedly" the RWD is faster from a roll but the XDrive one u raced before that gapped u alot harder. Just depends on the day and if the car is running properly and alot of other variables. I think the XDrive race u did with the m3 or m4 showed the difference more accurate forsure.
Even in that race is was extremely close when not from a dig.. needless to say, the M2 and M3/M4 comp make close to the same power.
@@JVette01I wouldn't use that race as a benchmark theirs other videos of the m3 and m4 pulling hard on the m2.
It *should* with 50 more hp.. but it doesn't in my experience. I've raced several.. since they weigh pretty much the same, a true 50hp difference would mean the M2 gets gapped hard but it doesn't.
I love you videos, but it’s kind of 🐓 to not do a dig race. Yes, we all know what would happen but that has never stopped you before in other cars. I think it a little deceiving to show only races that have a slight edge for one car, and then purposely leave off a race that would show multiple bus lengths.
It’s literally a waste of gas. I’d accelerate to like 60mph then let off. There’s no point. I’m fully aware the m3p that does a sub 3 second 0-60 will beat the m2
BMW : Power
Yesir people wanna re imagine what a faster car means. A Bugatti was always the fastest car becuase it's top speed. Not a fast 0-60 time. M2 is clearly the "faster" car and the one I'd wanna be in if it was a police chase 😂😂
I'd actually rather be in the Tesla. Blends in more with traffic and you can take off without making noise or drawing attention. Also, the Tesla is limited to 163 whereas the M2 is 155. Just saying
@@JVette01 damn the m2 is limited to 155? Is that with or without M drivers pack? My m4 does 185.. and nah the tesla would be trash in a chase the only way to get away is hitting the highway .. teslas top end is terrible unless it's a model s plaid. Plus then u have to factor in the model 3 battery overheating if u push it to hard which is a huge problem for the new model. Which I think ur forgetting.
That's all hypothetical nonsense.. shouldn't be running from police anyway.. that's an unrealistic scenario.. and yes, My M2 (and all other m3/m4) are limited to 155 without the driver's package.
@@JVette01 end was just a joke. The fact the model 3 has a higher top speed then ur spec m2 and u still pulled top end says alot. Should of had u from start to finish. U should just cop the model 3 performance! Seems like it suites u better.
Doing 60 rolls is not even a race
Thanks for letting me know, it’s my first time
@ 😂😂 like your sarcasm
Tesla wouldn't be very good on a German autobahn lol
Yeah, but here in Mexico we don't have the autobahn :/ and 90% of the time the Tesla will beat the M2 if you find one on the street. The M2 has to react perfectly and have the car in all the right modes whereas the Tesla just floors it.
Plaid does just fine
@ms3ben Till what state of charge, though, if you're cranking along at those speeds! Seems like it would be frustrating af with Tesla ownership in general when max power is desired!!
Fuckin right it would
Nah, I think that they do just fine.
Which car would you rather own? 🤔
The M2 of course lol. But the Tesla M3P is probably the best daily. I have a long range daily.
@@JVette01I knew the answer already 😉I placed an order for the M2 last week. 2025 model in Skyscraper Grey.
The BMW is a girls car! Geez…..
I guess I like girls cars then
Honestly the 3 performance doesn't have too much of a top end difference than the long range. great races the bmw top end is undefeated! Id be curious to see long range vs performance on a 60 roll.
We will set that up eventually! However, in my experience with my Long Range, the SOC affects your top end pretty significantly. Each 10% is roughly 10hp and 1mph in trap speed in my testing.
Huge difference in top end speed. But if you are talking about the old model, there isn’t much difference. This 2024 is a diff beast
60-130 in the 24 M3P is in the 8s...don't think the LR is in the same territory
@@kchen101 I was comparing the second 60 roll to the other video where he races the LR and the m2 but yeah no doubt performance is faster. I have a 2021 long range and even that feels quick.
Race the tesla at 100% charge it’s way faster.
In pathetic Australia with the gay low speed limits the Tesla wins on any road or freeway. Have owned both was a BMW fanboy owning many M cars (2,3,4,5) but the Tesla for day to day is just better. Miss the engine noise and slightly better interiors but tbh day to day boring traffic Tesla kicks ass
That’s why I have one as a daily
@ fair play I can’t just two cars and they are waaaaay more expensive here than in the US.
I fart in teslas and get out.😂
Gay. Get an S580
Maybe once I’m 80 years old I’ll think about it
The electric car has no soul, the Beemer is a proper car
I heard new Tesla's come with a free copy of Mein Kampf in the glove box
the bmw is ugly.. but the Tesla...So ugly and its Musk money
You to clicked on a video of 2 cars you don't like.. makes perfect sense...
At least he has abs i guess