You don't get this movie at all. Yes, Lorelei wants to marry a rich man. She was raised to believe that that is how you secure your future. But she's not going to marry someone she doesn't love. She does love Gus. And Gus loves her. She does flirt with Piggy, but she never cheats on gus. She really feels that she is helping Dorothy by trying to find Dorothy a rich man. Dorothy sticks with Lorelei because Lorelei is her friend. Friends don't always see eye to eye, but they're loyal to each other. The detective starts out a little smarmy, but when he realizes that the future father-in-law has nothing to worry about in Lorelei, he has a change of heart. You cut practically all the musical numbers. I know there are copyright considerations, but you didn't even include snippets of some of them. "Isn't Anyone Here for Love" is a great number. It was an accident when she gets knocked in the pool at the end, but she comes up and finishes the take. No one has to like any particular movie, but you came out hating it right from the beginning without trying to understand what it was saying. This movie is a satire on the social and sexual expectations of women in the nineteen fifties This movie is a satire on the social and sexual expectations of women in the 1950s.
I agree! It's sort of mind-boggling that the basics of cultural norms from yester-year flew right over their heads, not to mention the fact that the movie was meant to highlight women not apologizing for wanting to find their perfect match, whatever the criteria. You can't call Marilyn's character a gold-digger when she was upfront from the beginning...no trap there!
I mean, you can say she's manipulative but her character never lied about her motives and if men found her so attractive they chose to ignore what she was telling them then that's on them lol. I love this movie - I think it's so funny, and as much as I am too much of a romantic to date an ugly, rich man, I would say she's a good lead to follow if you do want money over love.
It’s a product of its time- and I like the fact that Lorelei points out the obvious at the end- show me a straight man that doesn’t try to manipulate a beautiful woman. At least she’s honest about it. And Dorothy is honest about being a horn dog and doesn’t care about money, but she’s a loyal friend. Poor Marilyn hated how she got typecast in roles like this.
Wow. You guys couldn’t understand the movie because of your own internalized misogyny. Lorelai is actually a very good and loyal woman, she just doesn’t want to be poor, which is apparently a crime for a woman, but there’s dozens of men in this movie who seek wealth and you have no problem with them. Lorelei likes Mr Piggy because HES INTERESTING!!! She’s allowed to have interests, her interests just happen to be money and jewels. There’s nothing wrong with that, they make her happy and so does her husband Mr Esmond, because he treats her well, he’s kind, and provides her with the things that make her happy, just like any good partner should and she does the same for him.
Thank you for calling out these angry, so-called movie reactionary commentors at their heart. They are guided by their myopic sense of reasoning than seeing a film from an historic, social and a sense of cultural value as an art form at an era of when the film was made and the overall standards of corporate movie making as a controlled institution.
7:18 Well she does have a good point. Money worries can put a strain on a relationship. And as unethical as marrying someone just for their money might be (and it's safe to say she isn't, she can get all the money she wants out of other rich men but she's marrying Gus because she likes him best out of all the rich men she knows), is it that much better, morally speaking, to spy on strangers and photograph them and record them without their knowledge for money? Money that another stranger has given you?
The discussion about whether or not she's a gold digger, at times this movie makes me think of a line from an Audrey Hepburn movie 'Sabrina' (remade in the 90s starring Madonna): "It wouldn't have worked out really, darling. The papers and everybody else would've said how fine and democratic for a Larrabee to marry a chauffeur's daughter, but would they praise the chauffeur's daughter? No. Democracy can be a wickedly unfair thing, Sabrina. Nobody poor was ever called democratic for marrying somebody rich." In any case - she's made it clear to everyone she wants to marry for money, including to Gus (i.e. when she told him that she keeps telling Dorothy "it should e just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is with a poor one"), men flirt with her and pay to sit at her table and call on her no matter what she does, she might flirt back but that doesn't necessarily mean anything, and all she wanted out of Piggy was some diamonds, nothing more and she went no further than a few dances, some hand kisses and him grabbing at her. He threw her under the bus and would've been ok with her going to jail rather than admit that he gave her his wife's tiara. Is it impossible that she should marry for money but would specifically marry the rich man she likes the best?
Good god why are y’all so angry? Y’all were so angry the point of this movie completely went over y’all’s head. Lorelei did love Gus, she didn’t wrong him in any way. At its core this movie is about two girlfriends looking out for each other, not about men. Worst take I’ve ever seen.
26:41 The dilemma that comes of telling someone that the person they're in love with and want to marry - do you want to tell them that they're incapable of being loved for themselves? Do you want to tell someone that you think that they are so stupid that they can't tell whether or not someone is marrying them for their money or not? Is it impossible that someone is marrying them for their money and their personality? And then there's the case of 'they could still make that person happy even if they are marrying them for their money because they're still in love with that person?" And then there's situations like in the movie 'A Good Woman' based off Oscar Wilde's 'Lady Windemere's Fan': "She's only interested in you for your money." "Well of course she is. It's the only appealing thing about me".
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You don't get this movie at all. Yes, Lorelei wants to marry a rich man. She was raised to believe that that is how you secure your future. But she's not going to marry someone she doesn't love. She does love Gus. And Gus loves her. She does flirt with Piggy, but she never cheats on gus. She really feels that she is helping Dorothy by trying to find Dorothy a rich man. Dorothy sticks with Lorelei because Lorelei is her friend. Friends don't always see eye to eye, but they're loyal to each other. The detective starts out a little smarmy, but when he realizes that the future father-in-law has nothing to worry about in Lorelei, he has a change of heart.
You cut practically all the musical numbers. I know there are copyright considerations, but you didn't even include snippets of some of them. "Isn't Anyone Here for Love" is a great number. It was an accident when she gets knocked in the pool at the end, but she comes up and finishes the take.
No one has to like any particular movie, but you came out hating it right from the beginning without trying to understand what it was saying. This movie is a satire on the social and sexual expectations of women in the nineteen fifties This movie is a satire on the social and sexual expectations of women in the 1950s.
Thank you.
I’ve never seen two people misunderstand a movie more
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I agree! It's sort of mind-boggling that the basics of cultural norms from yester-year flew right over their heads, not to mention the fact that the movie was meant to highlight women not apologizing for wanting to find their perfect match, whatever the criteria. You can't call Marilyn's character a gold-digger when she was upfront from the beginning...no trap there!
I mean, you can say she's manipulative but her character never lied about her motives and if men found her so attractive they chose to ignore what she was telling them then that's on them lol.
I love this movie - I think it's so funny, and as much as I am too much of a romantic to date an ugly, rich man, I would say she's a good lead to follow if you do want money over love.
It’s a product of its time- and I like the fact that Lorelei points out the obvious at the end- show me a straight man that doesn’t try to manipulate a beautiful woman. At least she’s honest about it. And Dorothy is honest about being a horn dog and doesn’t care about money, but she’s a loyal friend. Poor Marilyn hated how she got typecast in roles like this.
Lordy!! 4 mins in - Calm down! Its a comedy! Its a movie! Its not real life!
Wow. You guys couldn’t understand the movie because of your own internalized misogyny. Lorelai is actually a very good and loyal woman, she just doesn’t want to be poor, which is apparently a crime for a woman, but there’s dozens of men in this movie who seek wealth and you have no problem with them. Lorelei likes Mr Piggy because HES INTERESTING!!! She’s allowed to have interests, her interests just happen to be money and jewels. There’s nothing wrong with that, they make her happy and so does her husband Mr Esmond, because he treats her well, he’s kind, and provides her with the things that make her happy, just like any good partner should and she does the same for him.
Thank you for calling out these angry, so-called movie reactionary commentors at their heart. They are guided by their myopic sense of reasoning than seeing a film from an historic, social and a sense of cultural value as an art form at an era of when the film was made and the overall standards of corporate movie making as a controlled institution.
7:18 Well she does have a good point. Money worries can put a strain on a relationship.
And as unethical as marrying someone just for their money might be (and it's safe to say she isn't, she can get all the money she wants out of other rich men but she's marrying Gus because she likes him best out of all the rich men she knows), is it that much better, morally speaking, to spy on strangers and photograph them and record them without their knowledge for money? Money that another stranger has given you?
The discussion about whether or not she's a gold digger, at times this movie makes me think of a line from an Audrey Hepburn movie 'Sabrina' (remade in the 90s starring Madonna):
"It wouldn't have worked out really, darling. The papers and everybody else would've said how fine and democratic for a Larrabee to marry a chauffeur's daughter, but would they praise the chauffeur's daughter? No. Democracy can be a wickedly unfair thing, Sabrina. Nobody poor was ever called democratic for marrying somebody rich."
In any case - she's made it clear to everyone she wants to marry for money, including to Gus (i.e. when she told him that she keeps telling Dorothy "it should e just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is with a poor one"), men flirt with her and pay to sit at her table and call on her no matter what she does, she might flirt back but that doesn't necessarily mean anything, and all she wanted out of Piggy was some diamonds, nothing more and she went no further than a few dances, some hand kisses and him grabbing at her. He threw her under the bus and would've been ok with her going to jail rather than admit that he gave her his wife's tiara. Is it impossible that she should marry for money but would specifically marry the rich man she likes the best?
Good god why are y’all so angry? Y’all were so angry the point of this movie completely went over y’all’s head. Lorelei did love Gus, she didn’t wrong him in any way.
At its core this movie is about two girlfriends looking out for each other, not about men.
Worst take I’ve ever seen.
26:41 The dilemma that comes of telling someone that the person they're in love with and want to marry - do you want to tell them that they're incapable of being loved for themselves? Do you want to tell someone that you think that they are so stupid that they can't tell whether or not someone is marrying them for their money or not? Is it impossible that someone is marrying them for their money and their personality? And then there's the case of 'they could still make that person happy even if they are marrying them for their money because they're still in love with that person?" And then there's situations like in the movie 'A Good Woman' based off Oscar Wilde's 'Lady Windemere's Fan': "She's only interested in you for your money." "Well of course she is. It's the only appealing thing about me".