Let's Talk About Duskmourn - Opening A Prerelease Kit
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assuming jolly balloon man is blowing the balloons up, then since we see the balloons floating, that means he exhales helium, which probably means he has a squeaky voice
He screams into the balloons so they scream when they pop.
That Damnation art is special to me because the artist is Masahiro Ito himself!!! The father of Silent Hill! Can't wait to get my hands on that beauty!
I was kinda under the same take on Survivors, they were odd but didn't break my suspension of disbelief. Until I read the story and saw just how much better they could have been portrayed
The Survivors of the set don't have that rugged post apocalyptic look they do in the story. They aren't wearing the wallpaper of the house as clothing. Their tech looks very complete and not a mad scientist patchwork of 80s home devices, steam punk machines and magic.
The Survivors of the story are badass. The ones in the set look like just pop references
Jace isn’t in the set, but he features in the story. He was trying to find Vraska and Loot who got lost in the house, and the ending has some important implications given Duskmourn can open portals to other realms.
There’s a card with him on it.
If they had made survivors more like the story -- beaten down, wearing pieces of the house etc., it would have been so much better. As-is, it is immersion breaking.
Most of them but some are pretty fitting
@@Phantasmagoria-mo2sz Name a few? Would love to feel better about the set :)
Agreed, they look ridiculous, like out of a children's cartoon
They are mixing 80s slasher movie aesthetic with Scooby Doo, it doesn't work
Brother what immersion is there in pictures on cardboard?
@@TheHaggis0451 I am sorry you lack imagination. The game isn't all turning creatures sideways and doing math. If it was, we wouldn't need planes at all.
Can't wait to equip my Living Phone with a Baseball Bat
My god.....that's Jason Bourne.
Feels like this was supposed to be a Ghostbusters universes beyond that spiraled out of control.
very well put that the survivors feel out of place thematicaly. they use contemporary technology straight up from ghostbusters while the plain looks like gothic/renesance horror house. they could have made them more similar looking to the plane so they would not stick out so much. instead of modern headphones they could have used ones looking like ones from end of 19 century. traped in the screen uses that aesthetic for the box the screen is set into and it works well.
btw i thought they do normal d20s instead of spindowns since dnd set. i wonder why they switched back.
Remember that story wise most of the survivors aren't native to the plain, so it actually fits. It may be unintentional, but I think it works
@@alfredorivera5764 It also says they wear scraps of the house etc. to blend in. These folks seem like they showed up yesterday still filled with hope and vigor. I can kinda see them walking in via the omenpaths, but it isn't quite made explicit. For a foreboding horror, they simply seem too smug and sure of themselves.
@@m1gr3nA Spindowns are for tracking life totals during pre release.
@@magic_claw i know what they are for. regular d20 can be used for the same purpose _and_ have an use afterwards. as it is spindowns end up as trash when prerelease is over.
@@m1gr3nA not as intuitive for new players. I used to fumble around with d20s when I started.
Duskmourn the plane has got be ended poetically by being Eldrazi'd.
I'm not a horror fan but I think most of the set is super cool. The theme fits magic for a lot of the art, all of the 'evil creature' type stylings are really cool to me.
The jolly balloon man always reminds me of this 80s movie called killer clowns from outer space.
I am so exited for this set to fully release
I could see the doomsday demon working in a black green deck from these packs. You’ve got the elf Druid that can tap black and I think one of the rooms (ironically one you said didn’t look good for limited) made it so you could tap lands for any color.
Edit: lol shouldn’t have paused when I did; could have waited ten seconds to hear you bring it up!
I appreciate the new double locked rooms on the enchantments to stop people from cheating them. I can't play a lot of my mono-red decks anymore since the amount of must remove enchantments have power crept so hard the last 2 years. I hope they give red better answers to enchantment removal than just chaos warp effects. I guess with the new multicolor lands, I can take this chance to start playing more than 2 or 3 color decks.
The dark and campy theme is interesting. The art is amazing. Not too bad of a set.
I keep hearing that people feel the survivors feel out of place thematically for the set and they’re certainly entitled to that opinion, my dissenting opinion, however, is that they’re focusing too much on the narrow theme of the set as just “horror” or “a haunted house”. The set features horror and horror movie callbacks but my main argument is that the set isn’t about those things. It’s about nostalgia, about the loss of a past that can’t be recovered. Old movies, archaic technology and fashions, ghosts that haunt us metaphorically and literally. A house you left behind filled with things you may have never even experienced but that were around all the same. Idk I think they def fit in but that’s just me.
I would play the demon - you can manifest it, or reanimate it. And in the late game in a 2 colour or heavy black deck you can cast it.
If you reanimate it then you don't have to worry about decking yourself with it. Let it die as a 2/2 and be Delirium fodder until you're ready to reanimate.
I'd play the excrutiator but intend to stick it into the graveyard as a reanimation target. You've got that emerge from cocoon, and excrutiator's ability is on *cast* and not on ETB, so if you reanimate him, he just draws you an extra card every turn which rules.
Universes Beyond : Ghostbusters x Goosebumps 😅
@@geezlueaze1951 There's a Ghostbusters secret lair coming and the Goosebumps artist made the promo art for the nightmare bundle, so you are right on the money lol.
A Goosebumps one would be a must buy for me.
Say His Name he appears
i see a lot of reference there
Beetlejuice, Bloody Mary, Candyman and Joe Hendry and more
I believe in Joe Hendry 👏👏
I BELIEVE
I only buy singles for EDH but this set looks very pretty. Sometimes you get old and all your friends stop playing magic 😭
All the more reason to come down to your LGS for prerelease events. Try out the new cards operating strictly with themselves and maybe meet some new folks to play with. It really is the more the merrier.
Personally, I think it's the best set we got this year. We got a limited tutor (Demonic Counselor) that works beautifully with one of the others (Leyline of Transformation) to be a really powerful and synergistic combo without being a game breaking card. But we also get Screaming Nemesis that just shuts down life gain decks and is honestly a bit OP, but then we also get things like that one 2 red 2/2 Pinhead reference that does 1 damage to any opponent that draws a card, which punishes draw decks a bit but isn't outlandishly powerful. There really aren't all that many that just fall completely flat, which is a nice change.
And most important of all we got a sequel to Meathook Massacre, which isn't quite as OP as the original, but it does do some fun stuff when it shows up on the field
I feel like flashlights are very mild for "modern tech." The first flashlights/torches were made so long ago that they would not be out of place in Thunder Junction. This also marks the THIRD time we have gotten a baseball bat in magic. You can tri-wield Lucielle, Ace's Baseball Bat, and the new Baseball bat.
The other baseball bats were relegated to Universes Beyond (where they belong). Lucille was even changed into a shovel for her universe within version.
“Baseball Bat” is the first in-universe baseball bat.
@@laurentrobitaille2204 New Capenna had some baseball bats in art.
I dint care about lore at all, I care about playability. Is it a fun card? Is it balanced for what it is? These matter to me I don't know any magic lore and when I tried to learn it I fell asleep out of boredom. I like the card game
something I'll note, I actually hate how the packaging for the promo card is now opaque
I know it's not a big deal, but if you decided that your sealed pool didn't fit your promo card and you didn't end up using it, you could know what it is and just keep it in the packaging to keep it mint, now you literally must open it to see what you got.
I know this is a small nitpick, but I'm personally not a fan of all the extra cardboard being slapped on the prerelease boxes that makes them less useful as storage devices and the shift to an opaque and designed card package for the promos is just a strict downgrade that has no reason to happen. And tbh I probably wouldn't care if this wasn't the 1,001st way that wotc has subtly changed mtg to give less value to players at higher and higher costs.
complaining nitpick out of the way, I'd absolutely yolo doomsday excruciator if my sealed pool could work it
Reanimator, G/B with mana-fixing dorks, mono-black, Manifest Dread, there's a fair few limited builds in this set that could play it, and some could even play it and bypass the cast clause, leaving you with a draw accelerating flying beater
20:37 he's in the story, he and Kaito meet after he fell through the house. I was convinced Jace was an illusion, but he turned out to be real
Not only that. Spoilers:
Valgavoth catches Loot at the end
People who love Neon Dynasty, but think the 80s aesthetic of this set is immersion breaking, confuse me.
Neon dynasty still used ancient Japan as a basis for its tech. There were no guns, or anything that would be pulled directly from our world. It also took itself quite seriously, which lended it believability.
Plus I just really like Neon Dynasty.
I personally never liked Kamigawa at all, so when they returned it was a bummer. I just wish they'd put out books again instead of the digital only short stories.
Oh I loved playing Kamigawa Neon Dynasty, but I hated the Futuristic cyberpunk aesthetic of Neon Dynasty, It felt like big middle finger to me who loves Japanese Mythology and the imagry to the things like Waring States peroid. Also hated that they got rid of the things that made the plane unique, so no more snake people who you know are from kamigawa because they no longer have legs, No more samurai on horseback instead on they'll all be on motorcycles and Giant mechas, No actual Ninja Scrolls because they are holographic computer chips. Like why hasn't all of MTG's planes advanced to Neon Dynasty or Kaladesh levels of technology if omenpaths are just casually letting people travel to new planes, like how it seems for Outlaws of Thunder Junction? Why don't people have laser blasters from Thunder Junction and Lightsabers from Kamigawa and all drive vehicles for faster transportation when the options are there for them now? Why hasn't there been artificers who downscale the cannons on Ixalan's ships to be portable and fire smaller rounds to look and work like thunder junctions weapons?
you missed Sheltered by Ghosts being a veryyy good removal attached to a pump, it's probably gonna see heavy play in Boros Micr
Doomsday Excrutiator is one of the least playable sealed cards there is. There’s just way too high of a chance that you mill out if you cast it. I think in draft you can try to focus on reanimating or manifesting it and then it’s good but otherwise I’d pass it
Duskmourn has the same problem as MKM, where I can't tell if it's trying to be a legitimate entry in the genre it's going for, or a campy self-aware parody of it. Either one would have worked fine, but going for both at the same time just isn't working for me at all. There are other problems I have with it as well, but that's a big one.
Shadows Over Innistrad got me really into MTG...Proxy with Toxic Win Hogs killed my love but man this set really is getting me back. Great video!
Cool, now the promo cards are in nonclear pack. I dont know if im the small minority but i like see the card and decide if i want to open the pack.
THE PERRELEASE FINDER WAS A LIFE SAVER
Hope you have fun!
I wonder why the promo packaging changed.
They gave him a stacked box for advertising lolol
real
Such a silly conspiracy.
@@PleasantKenobi "Conspiracy" 🤣
Yeah guys, it's obviously just a conspiracy and clearly his prerelease box just coincidentally happened to have all the previewed cards that are generating tiktoks/15 second build shorts and ALSO happened to have arguably the most coveted special guest card. You guys and your crazy conspiracies, am I right?
You really think Wizards of the Coast spend resources on creating specialised boosters, separate from the normal factory allocation, with improved pull rates and specific picks of cards that are 'trending' during preview season, and send these to creators? Have you stopped to think how much effort, time and energy that would be? When you actually unpack the logistics of it, do you really believe this?
Oh, that's interesting. I hadn't thought on flickering the Rooms, but having them return locked since their cost wasn't paid feels like it could work out.
And also be a PITA for someone running a lot of Rooms with an opponent who's heavy on flickering >:D
I hadn't realized they made a card literally called "Manifest Dread" that did only that. I hope there's a special treatment for it where it excludes the reminder text so all it says in the text box is "Manifest Dread"; the art could be the Arrested Development "I don't know what I expected" meme.
I love how thanks to this set scarecrow can be tribal /kindred
The heavy costing black cards are good if you can build a decent reanimator deck
Love damnation but when are they bringing back regen? It wasn't a super powerful effect but without regen, it doesn't feel right to keep seeing a reprint with an effect that isn't used in standard. It's still a solid wipe, just figured i would see something interacting with dread creatures dying or being unable to flip in response to the wipe being on the stack.
While I enjoy the set more than I thought I would upon initially hearing the premise, part of me can’t help but feel like this set is directly inspired by the success and popularity of Spookydrop Secret Lairs. Bought a box because, well, there are so many fun movie references. I also want any copy of Tyvar I can get lol
Always excited for prerelease. Would you consider making another video of the deck you would make with this pool?
While I don't hate the set, I would be more interested in it if they went with eldrich horror themes instead of having references to and tropes of real world horror movies.
I'm so glad there adding flavor to the box and bringing back stories. I know it's cool to hate duskmourn, but I'm hyped for it.
Lol it's "cool" to hate every new set. Even Bloomburrow is hated for being "too cute"
just not my kind of genre, not a big horror guy. saving my money for foundations. hope to get some friends into playing
I like campy horror,
This is the opposite,
Its trying to be modern and different.
I like friday the 13th, not Stranger Things
@@nicks4802 There's a horror clown in here. How campy do you want it?
i feel like you shouldve opened this on a brown sofa
Ashens
@@TheBrothers759 hello!
The House has captured Loot. Jace shows up to save him and gets punched out by Kaito (the latter being the best part of the story). We don't know if Jace actually succeeds at the rescue mission or not.
Actually in the last bit of the story (SPOILERS)
When all of the gang successfully flees thanks to Proft & Kaito, Valgavoth turns to where he has Loot (well, most likely, it's a "bundle of orange fur") trapped. While Jace could technically free him after this, leaving this thread in the story would seem to imply that Jace could not successfully rescue him and that there will be important implications of the house having Loot
They did explain the plane was high in technology and magic although it didn't work for me.
You unfortunately cannot play the Jolly Balloon Man in an Atraxa commander deck, no red.
Standard, friend.
@@ArceusShaymin I agree standard exists but he did specify Atraxa commander deck 10:33
10:56 dan mumford is awesome. still got some metal shirts with his designs
Were you filming in a smoke-filled room PK? Everything seemed real blurry / out of focus 😢
Yeah. After I filmed the whole thing I realised a setting was slightly off - and didn't have another Sealed pool to open. 🤷♂️
@@PleasantKenobi I thought something had to be amiss as you’re videos are usually crisp-as 🤩
If you have enough black to do mono black I'd play it, but that seems like a stretch
I do know the Survivors are corny, but you need them for the set to work, Horror needs victims and hope, or it just doesn't work.
Victims don't need to be technicolour ghost buster knock offs.
@@PleasantKenobi Then I think you forgot what the 70s, 80s, and 90s were, mate. Part of contemporary horror is camp, plain and simple. It's a bunch of naive, overconfident high-schoolers getting dressed up in scrounged-together gear and looking like they came out of a combination rave/scrappunk/renfair to fight and escape a bunch of supernatural threats they barely understand, and rather don't care to. That's a good chunk of horror to just brush aside as "ghostbuster knockoffs".
Victims also don't need to be gray, depressed blobs of monster fodder either.
My only big criticism with the set's theme so far is just how bifurcated the survivors and Nashi's rescue team are within the cards' stories alone. The set's telling two different stories at once, but unlike, say, NEO, where the New Phyrexians and the Kamigawans stories were somewhat interweaved through the story spotlight cards, Duskmourne has two completely different stories happening side-by-side, which isn't giving either much room to breathe in the space of one set.
@@ArceusShayminFor me I don’t care anyway.
So the problem people have with the survivors is instead of feeling like a nod towards the 70s-90s era of horror movies it feels like a complete rip. Which people aren’t the fondest of because instead of tipping the hat and coming up with something new they take from our reality which breaks immersion. Seemingly a lot of people are into immersion in mtg.
So if it breaks immersion into the world then of course people are going to be upset.
@@Someguyy867Funny how Kamigawa is an entire rip from our reality and nobody batted an eye. I guess being a weeaboo trumps immersion.
@@RENEG4DE4NGEL Never cared for kamigawa or got into the set so can’t say why people aren’t or are mad about that.
I am super interested in the play boosters, Will we see some on your channel ?
I'd only play Doomsday Excruciator in limited if I opened enough reanimator spells and GY stuff to not need 6 black mana
Are you going to make a deck out of these pulls??
MTG: Luigi's Mansion
Call me basic, but I would dump money into a Nintendo UB. Just like I'm gonna go wild on Final Fantasy.
I don’t play magic. Is this the normal rate wizards of the coast go through expansions? Didn’t Bloomburrow just release? I thought that they release a few expansions in the same plane before moving on to the next.
Not anymore. Duskmourn is the last story set of 2024, after this is a general collection called Foundations in November. This is the 2025 schedule:
Innistrad Remastered | January 2025.
Tennis (Deathrace Set) | Q1 2025.
Ultimate (Tarkir Set) | Q2 2025.
Universes Beyond: Final Fantasy | Q2 2025.
Volleyball (Space-themed Set) | Q3 2025.
Wrestling (Lorwyn Set) | Q4 2025.
Universes Beyond: Marvel | TBA.
Can you zoom out a little more, so we see less of the cards? ;P
I don't like horror movies at all, but I think duskmorn looks great.
Cool thing to note with the Doomsday Excruciator, if you’re able to discard it somehow and then reanimate with the Emerge from the Cocoon, you bypass the “enters if it was cast” trigger and you get the 6/6 flier that draws an extra card each turn without the downside, not to mention you don’t even have to worry about the six B mana cost. It’s a really cool and subtle way to give the WB Reanimator limited deck a bomb rare for its specific strategy.
You should read the story to know why Jace is there! :)
anyone know where i can watch some cool lore videos about this set? i used to watch aetherhub but he doesnt really make much anymore
Skipping this one. Not a fan of the flavor. Skipped MKM as well, because design space felt cheap. Getting singles of the lands I need and if there ends up being a modern staple I may buy that off the secondary market. Just feels like for what we are paying they need to put more effort in.
Especially when booster bundles are $80 now.
Oh, if I can play WB I'd play the Excruciator and hope to discard it to the Goat or get it in the graveyard trough manifest dread and then Emerge it from the Cocoon.
This video feels early? Nice hits though!
Literally grinding arena and saving up everything to dump on this set. Not a fan of the current thematic, I do enjoy the mechanics though.
I will go into bankruptcy to pull a card art by masahiro ito. No way I will buy it as a single I NEED that feeling of pulling my number one artist inspiration
Wizards of the Coast : Thank you for your blind stupidity
Lawyer: *whispers in John Hight's ear*
Wizards of the Coast: Sorry blind loyalty, we meant loyalty
Wait 🤔
Isn't that usually Gavins job...? 🤔
Genevieve Mall
Is this like a new unglued or unhinged set like infernal spawn of infernal spawn of evil like lol
i really think its interesting that wotc sponsors you. kenobi has a lot of hot takes towards wiztards.
Kuhlman Cape
Prereleases are great on paper, but since the modern design has made sealed a horribly unbalanced format, I just don't do them anymore.
I just dont think this is the issue people pretend it is.
@@PleasantKenobi So, your saying I'm pretending when sealed was my favorite format from mid-90s all the way up to maybe around Khans, but now it feels like I just get trounced by horrifically strong pools and there is nothing you can do about that? Taking out six cards from a pool is also quite a bit, when you were often struggling to find that 22nd or 23rd playable anyhow.
Hastur Hastur Hastur
I love all tthe mechanics we've seen, literally my only criticism is that some of the survivor art is ugly
To be fair, they have been making lots of ugly humans for the past few years. There's a distinct difference between how they were for the first 25 years or so and then how they started looking after.
If only seal didn't suck
Sealed is great fun.
Sealed is amazing. Everyone gets to play at roughly the same power level. [Eyes Vince's stack of rares and an unopened booster pack] Totally balances the game.
unboxing videos, per wotc, have to wait until monday.
cant even see the art ur camra so zoomrf ouyt
Preleases have a release date….
Oh pinkertonssssss we have a job for youuuuu
Literally a different situation, this is a REAL set and not a 50 card 5-card pack expansion. Obviously this product isn't even worth tracking.
@@Greg501- lololol
man this set could have been great. Awesome idea execited poorly. Get rid of the 80s nostalgia bait stuff and also dont tell us all the lore of every single thing in the world. keep some of it a mystery and unknown
Ah yes, the “modern” horror of the 70s 80s and 90s……
Yes.
@@PleasantKenobi fair
Horror has existed before film. Even the first that comes to mind like Tell-Tale Heart was published in 1843. Frankenstein is over 200 years old.
@@Boyzby ? What does that have to do with anything? I was poking fun because the horrors of the 70-90s are not modern horror
12:51 DAAAAMN 🥳
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