Tool The Patient Reaction!!
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This video is about Tool Eon Blue Apocalypse and The Patient Reaction!!
Lyrics to this are easy to decipher. It's about the current 12 year wait for a new album ;)
Luke Smith lmfao
Lol😂
😂😂
When they said 10,000 days them meant it lol.
Oof
God bless Sori for taking the lyrics so literally.
“HOW CAN SHE WALK AWAY IF SHE’S PARALYZED?!” 🤣
I was raised Baptist. By the time I found Tool during my High School days I didn't much care for the church goers I ran around with. I didn't go full Atheist, however I didn't lose a faith in higher power. This song was a go to for when my father got sick and slowly starved to death. My mother drank her self to death. My brother got ALS. All this happened within the same five years one on top of each other. As the youngest I was the go to caretaker. Patients was paramount to all the care. Even though this song was from my early days I still went to it for comfort. I can see the religious undertones but I never associated it with the bible. Just goes to show how we can all interpret things different I was humbled by just hoe patient I had to be with each of them. Lucky for me we all still loved each other despite the difficulties before they passed. Long ass five years though. Good Lord.
Damn bro. You’re a saint.
Nah, just human. That is what this channel seems to be about. I love that. If yuns get bored try out The way out is through live by Nine inch Nails. any version would do ya good. I make plenty of mistakes but I refuse to give up. "All I have undergone I will keep on."
Much love your way bro from the bottom of my heart. For real!!
Damn man. All love for you bro. Stay up.
Wow, I couldn’t see myself handling a situation like that. Good on you my man
A seriously underrated tool song, IMO better than some of their more popular songs. When I tripped one summer, this part 6:28-7:18 use to always push me into the trip on the come up, more than several times that summer..
Well-known or not, Tool is just a band of complete hits, at least to me
"If there were no desire to heal the damaged and broken met along this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would have walked away by now." That quote got me through med school.
This song has literally saved my life more than once 💙
You saved your own life, I totally feel what you're saying but if a song makes you realize something that you may not have before and gave you the inspiration to keep pushing and stay alive because you know there's something more that this life has in store for you and you wanna keep going to discover what that is, for you to find and make your own meaning for your own life, because yesah by some weird chance the universe we live in sparked and made all things. If none of us were here, no one would notice. So it's correct that life has no meaning, until you give your life it's own meaning, because knowing that we're only here by some weird chance, some freak accident of physics, makes existence that much more special and beautiful, let alone the fact that we're all here on this planet able to create all things there are on this world for all others to marvel at, the fact that we feel all the things we feel like love and peace and happiness and spiritual connections to the universe and existence even if you're not religious at all like me, and the feeling you felt when you chose to stay here and prosper is made that much more beautiful knowing that there was probably a 99.99999% chance that this universe could have never met the right conditions to create life on this planet, let alone humanity and that we've actually managed to struggle on until the point where we are now where it's more peaceful and beautiful all around this planet then it ever has been in our history, and you and me and everyone who's alive right now is lucky enough to be alive in a time like this where we don't have to struggle evens fraction of what all our ancestors had to. So it wasn't the song that saved you, it was just the catalyst that helped you to save yourself, it's up to you how you take the song cause it could be talking about being patient for something completely different then the way you're interpreting it, but it was you who realized that it's not worth taking your life because consciously or unconsciously, you knew there's something more for you in this life, it might take what seems like forever to create you're own meaning one's own life and find what it is that you're meant to do in this world, but you realized that you have to be patient to find that something you're meant to do, and you STILL could have quit and given up after realizing whatever it was that you realized thanks to this song, just completely defeated by this seemingly cruel life. But you saw more in store for yourself and used your own strong willpower to choose for yourself to stay alive and figure all that out. Give yourself more credit, music can be an amazing tool to help you realize certain beauty's of life and being. But we're from a very strong species of strugglers who endure massive hardships throughout our lives, and get rewarded by life itself when we're strong enough to keep pushing through because we'll always deal with all the hardships and sadness and hatred and ll other negative things of the world our whole lives, but we'll also always receive an even greater amount of peace and happiness and love and all other positive things. And since you're like me, you have struggled hard enough to almost give up completely, and that just means you get rewarded SO much more than all the other people whom haven't struggled nearly as much and you get to feel far more peaceful and happiness and love when you receive those things because you have all the harder life experiences to compare to all those beautiful life experiences with. Keep enduring, keep loving and change the world around you, and you're a human like the rest of us, so I know you can do that if you just keep going and. never. Give up. I give you my absolute best wishes in your life to come fellow struggler. (Im sorry about this long ass message but some people just need to hear stuff like this in their lives and I thought you'd appreciate it lol if not then oh well, I like to write anyways and all this I typed out is gonna help me out with the comic I'm writing so at least I didn't waste my time either way lmao😂)
Hi. Nice to read this
Hey dani. Wish i could share that feelings with u . This band and this song is all for me
@@brunosantos6184 be patient my friend I must keep reminding myself of this even as it looks like my life is about to take a radical turn where the outcome is completely unknown I'm scared as hell but I embrace this holy reality and all of its many possibilities he the words of the good reverend Maynard James Canaan he will not lead you astray
@@brunosantos6184 because in my darkest moments feel and weeping...
Thank you guys!
EDIT: I'm just waiting for vin, as we all know by now, to come to terms and admit he is a tool head.
I'm so proud of you guys going all out on the Lateralus record:) This song really has a lot of emotion, and it has always helped me cope with stress/anxiety. When the going gets rough, the end of this track crosses my mind...
"Wait it out...gonna wait it out..."
Waiting for more Opeth Vin and Sori, all in good time, it will grow on you as Tool has.😉
I know it's hard to make song choices, but [Eternal Rains Will Come] by Opeth is superb. You will enjoy the rapture lyricism Vin, forshaw! 🤗
P.S. Everyone needs to chill and listen to Vin and Sori first and foremost. Tool dissection in progress children, enjoy. 🙄 🔧
Gojira Rules same
@@dan.j.boydzkreationz
Indeed!
Tool are just on another level..never duplicated...not one bad song..Goosebumps, Powerful and amazing
I was 16 in 2001 when this record came out. I remember being seriously creeped out by this whole album. Not in a traditional way. In a Lovecraftian "there is unspeakable horror in here" way. Now I'm 32 and I realize that the unspeakable horror is life itself.
well said
The intro track, “Eon Blue Apocalypse” is a tribute by the guitarist Adam Jones to his dog. He had a Great Dane named Eon that unfortunately died during the writing of this album.
Today I learned
I never thought this to be about his mom. I always thought this was about suicide and the conflicted decision of giving up or waiting it out. I will be patient and wait it out to see where this tedious path takes me where the broken and damaged met. Could be both but still think its about suicide. Good discussion.
Israel Olguin Yo did you live to hear fear Inoculum?
I always interpreted it that way too... But their interpretation about his Mom is intriguing too... Given Maynard's Mom's unusual situation, and the fact that he has dedicated other songs to her.
I think Maynard has said that this song is about the situation with his Mom. Quite a few Tool and A Perfect Circle songs are about her
Deftones feat Maynard - passenger
Tool- pushit (salival) . It's a live version of pushit but it sounds so so good
Monk3yB0t It's also lyrically different from the original and a much deeper song for it. One of Maynard's best lyrical works. Studio version is all about the reaction to a partner's abuse (one way) but the Salival version acknowledges the reciprocal toxicity that is often the case
P K yes, dat too. Honestly, I think it's a brilliant song and the way Maynard hits some of those notes. Omg!
It's deffinetly one of my top 3 Tool songs (pushit, Lateralus, 46&2)
Both Pushits are amazing.
@@alpo6668 I prefer the original myself (I know)
The Contortionist - Language I: Intuition & Language II: Conspire
Man... Vin, I can relate so empathise with you, different in a way but still the same. And Sori! You made some AMAZING points. I love the depth y'all allow yourselves to go.
one of my fav song of theirs, and great reaction as always. i hope you do another meshuggah song sometime, songs like "Do Not Look Down" and "Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion" even have official lyric videos and are quite popular
This is the shit that I would light candles, sit in the dark and just take it in. Audible drugs man no substances require.
Yep, that's how you Tool
But it's definitely better with drugs. The best drugs I've found to work with Tool is either DXM or weed; weed works best though.
weed + Tool= an out of body experience
Hey alcohol works too
If you haven't experienced tool on lsd than you haven't experienced tool at all
Saying a prayer for you Vin. Seems like there are some painful memories that are still too sharp to be handled carelessly.
I truly think the straight through listen is where Sori was in her element and began to love Tool the way so many do, but this is yours and I hope you are coming to that place too. These separate perspectives make these so enjoyable to watch because of the balance you give each other. Thank you!
Interesting interpretation. I always took the song to be about his struggle to keep it together as an artist. The fighting and squabbles that come with the long-term relationship with bandmates. Being on the road all the time, away from family. The vultures on the business side of the industry constantly hindering you and trying to feed off you. All these things kind of wearing him down like a “vampire”.
He wonders if it’s even worth it anymore. But his “desire to heal...the damaged and broken [listeners] met along...the tedious path” he’s chosen outweigh his doubts. So he’s “keeping faith”, and being “patient”.
Just my two cents. You guys are incredible as always. I can’t tell you how much I’m enjoying this series. We really appreciate all your hard work and effort. Keep it up!
Ryan Wills that was my impression
Yeah a lot of the songs on lateralus are about their struggles to stay and work together. But they all decided that the final product, this beautiful record, was worth it in the end.
Agreed Ryan, I definitely thought this song was more about the music industry. I get that Maynard often wrote about his mother but not ever song. However, in the end Maynard empowers the listener decide what the song means to them and not "distorting" the lyrics/meaning for the listener.
You just see the perfect union of different aspects by looking at the Beauty of Sori with the Words of Vin. Greetings from Chile guys. Keep the Innocence of being Reactors :)
The most underrated Tool song.
Caring for ailing or dying relatives is emotionally shattering at times. I was a caregiver for multiple relatives in those circumstances for over twenty years. It changes you. You can't ever get back to the things you might have been, the person you thought you'd be. You constantly ask yourself how long it'll go on, and if you have enough emotional resolve to keep going. In the end, you're down to grim determination, doing whatever you have to in order to be able to look at yourself in the mirror when it all plays out.
I blink and come back and this channel has 30k more subs than last time I was here! kicking ass
Good to see you're playing the interludes. All the times I've heard this song its never occurred to me it might be about his mom. Interesting.
It’s not.
I feel the song is about both Maynard and Judith, and sometimes the two cross over into one person. The Patient is both Judith and Maynard (who is being Patient, thus is The Patient as well). Remember the next full song is Schism, which is, among other things, about tearing things apart.
Interesting take, I believe the song is just about being patient with life in general, I think the title ‘The Patient’ is about People who are patient rather than it being a specific person or a patient.
‘But I’m still right here giving blood keeping faith’ I believe is that little reminder and hope we all have that speaks to us to progress and keep going
@@mitchellgriffiths09 nailed it!
Mitchell Griffiths It is about a specific person. A past relationship of Maynard’s who came back into his life when she was half-heartedly trying to get sober.
Its funny how you (Sori) talk about Vin diving in to stuff in an almost obsessive way. Its evident with how much researches stuff like the Behemoth stuff, and these tool songs. I definitely get that, I am the same way. Like back when I was wrapping up in college and still playing in bands, I wanted to get a custom shop Jackson (this was right before fender bought them). I probably spent months learning everything I could about how guitars work. Tonewoods, what complements certain styles, pickup choices and configurations. You name it, I learned it. That guitar is my baby, but I certainly spent a inordinate amount of time deciding exactly what I wanted and then I had to be PATIENT (symmetry, gotta love it) cause it took almost 2 years for it to be built and finished.
Now this year I had to buy a new car and the same thing, tons of research, finding everything I could. You could say its obsessive, but I don't think its a bad trait at all to want to be as knowledgable as you can about something you are passionate about. So its great in my opinion that Vin takes this stuff seriously to the extent he does, I think it makes the video's that much better than anything else out there in regards to dissecting a song.
Appreciate that. I mean honestly it comes from two sources, 1. Sori’s curiosity about the world. 2. Our conviction that we will NEVER underestimate our audience. !!!
I m totally amazed at this different scenario that you guys are interpreting from this song. I have always thought it was straight up a very invested caregiver arguing with their own mind.
relating it to my life, I am the patient, my husband the caregiver. So I see myself as being the emotional vampire, and I can totally see how sticking with me through both physical and mental health issues is tedious, a test, draining..but I have never stopped working towards getting better, and he sees that, so that's what's keeping him going, otherwise I wouldn't blame him for walking out.. heck much of the time I cannot for the life of me understand why he stays.
It's funny though, he's never said anything like this, ever mentioned giving up, ever put clauses, it's all my own feelings projected.
I see it though.. I see how this is potentially a back and forth, 2 perspectives.
Great review.
Thank you. He stays Bc you’re worth it.
I love hearing stories from Sori's childhood, gives me a new appreciation for all the things I complained about as a kid :)
That wah in the opening is Justin on Bass.
Tool and Karnivool are both my favorite bands. And its funny how Vin has mentioned the vools twice already in these tool videos.
Keep dem reactions comin!
That's my favorite pair right there. Out of all of their songs. Together those two are awesome!
Also, guys not EVERY Tool song is about Maynard’s mom. If you dig a little deeper in interviews, youll find out Maynard was having a lot of problems with the band (Adam Jones - Tool’s guitarist in particular). I think this song is about having patience with the band and its tedious process. The song Schism is also about his problem with the band
mineonlyhooves What problems did he have with Adam?
Maynard seems to have an issue with Tool in general. He doesn’t like how slow they’re writing process is, which is why there have been three Perfect Circle albums and the entire Puscifer discography since Lateralus came out. Tool does not fulfill his need to be creative.
Jeffery Tucker im not sure, but MJK has vented his frustrations with the band’s process in multiple interviews (Joe Rogan’s last interview in particular). I only speculate his problems with Adam because they dont follow each other on social media, and he was the only member of Tool not to join Maynard on his big 50th bday event. Seriously, every musician Maynard’s ever worked with was there except Adam, thats very peculiar to me. Ive just heard rumors through various sources he and Adam are VERY different people and i just don’t really see them getting along
Schism is about him and Adam specifically, difficult relationships generally. This is about a (to my knowledge unspecified) girlfriend specifically, draining and exploitive people generally.
This wouldn't breal up the band? You think?
Hi, a new subscriber here!. I recently discovered your channel via other reacting channels and i'm sure about yours are one of the most truly inspirationals. The reactions, faces, feelings and the analysis comes from the very inside of you. (Or it seems.) About me some things; Truly Opeth lover since the beginning, musical ecleptical without fix and survivor on this life thanks to the music and my sons. Ty for making our way better!
I'm so glad you mentioned the Korn song Hating, I instantly made the same connection when I heard that Korn song the first time.
Why are you no longer showing the lyrics? I have been listening to Tool for 10 years and still learn something new every video I watch with the lyrics in them...it also helps me more connect to your reactions in the moment...JS.
Loving the content.
A7x buried alive. I won't see you tonight 1 and 2
Mudvayne LD50 album
Tool aenema, vicarious, 46 and 2, eulogy, opiate
Parkway drive wishing wells
Cheers!
Good call. We listened to this record straight through in the taping. So it wasn’t a lyric video. We’ll post the lyrics as a pinned comment next time! Thank you for the feedback and making us better!!
You have phenomenal taste in music my friend.
I'd love to see y'all tackle Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned off of 10,000 Days.
Rage Against The Machine - Know Your Enemy (ft. Maynard)
Poets of the Fall - Carnival of Rust, Drama for Life and Choice Millionaire
Machine Head - A Farewell to Arms, Descend the Shades of Night and Imperium
Linkin Park - Given Up
first of all, I love these reaction videoes that you guys are making cause listening to tool vicariously through you, I am learning a lot more about their songs so thank you.
I love this song. this song has led me through some hard times and every time I hit a roadblock or whatever I turn back and this song gives me the power to keep going. That's why I didn't like the way you analyzed it. I never looked at it from a mother-son perspective and I never thought that's what the song means. The sad thing for me is what you're saying sounds right. Or maybe I am also right to think that this is just about the strugles of life.
Patience is a virtue
Its so awesome watching them listen to it and then seeing them lost in that trance of thinking...good shit
You guys are talking about my relationship with my mother.....and I walked away! Trust me, it was for good reason.
With that being said, I would like you awesome guys Vin and Sori to do a Morbid Angel song God of Emptiness and or the song Rapture off their Covenant album 1993 I think. It’s a heavy one! Oh ya and Pete Sandoval was known as the fastest metal drummer of his time!!
Also a main influencer of Gojira.
cant wait for you guys to blow up, content is legit vin adds a lot of depth to it
Eon Blue Apocalypse was written for the guitarist Adam, who had a dog named Eon Blue that died.
You two never cease to teach me something...
Give a listen to some *sleepmakeswaves* : 'what we cannot speak of, must be passed over in silence' is very good. I especially love the original single version of "one day you will teach me to let go of my fears", but you may have trouble finding it.
Probably my 2nd favorite Tool song. Love it.
We're married but we're still friends.......when I heard that at the end.....I had to hit the like button! Regardless of how things are seen, we are still......We are ALL still.....us. Respect.
I know it’s late. Just want say Happy Thanksgiving! Vin & Sori.
🦃🥂🥧🍽🦃🦃
Beautiful job guys! I'm waiting on Rosetta Stoned, I'd love to hear your insight on Rosetta. \\m//
I dont think they play this two anymore live...I was lucky to hear Eon Blue Apocalypse and The Patient @ Coachella 06, the first out the 3 times I've seen them. Oh lucky me :)
One of my favorite Tool songs. Very underated.
Vin you are an onion . There are layers to you and your slowly opening up on some truely emotional chit . Love the videos keep up the great work. Loving this breakdown of the album. Any chance of a Rosetta Stoned plus its prequel on the album 10000 Days ,meant to be played together. Much respect my friend.
A Perfect Circle " Judith " 👌🏽. Tool videos are dope keep it up! Much love from Australia.
Trent DMW they did this one. Their analysis was awesome.
Another gem of a song!
I know this isn't probably the best way to reach out to you. im a huge tool fan and long to help people and life in general. at you 18:00 mark you have convinced me to contact you on a deeper lever. if you have time id like to talk, I don't even know where you live, but placement of the body vs mind is relevant to time as well.
More a perfect cirlcle
Untouchables came out in Spring/ early Summer 2002. But it was first leaked with the original track order and song titles before that.
Eon Blue Apocalypse is a tribute to Adam Jones' (guitarist) dog who died.
Edit: I don't think The Patient is about his mother.
The band tool, is a tool for its listeners, no song has one definite meaning. That being said, I definitely do not think this was about his mom, he did most of that in 10,000 days.
Oh shit ya'll already did this! Nice!
Tool is a pretty solid band. Part of my night time driving playlist
For not being a TooL fan Vin sure does know lyrics to a lot of the songs
I know this is a little late, but this is one of those sleeper Tool songs that has recently become one of my favorites. This is the one that triggered an epiphany for me, it's when the song opens up towards the end.
Tool so fuckin bad ass they're their own genre.
Damn right. They’re a class of one.
Again, Maynard writing multiple meanings...patient as a noun and as an adjective.
I can assure you, "old people" is definitely NOT what was going through that guys mind when not correcting Sori's mistake. So yeah, Vin knows what's up.
Lol
Oh yeah lol
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There's such an interesting relationship with Maynard's beautiful bizarre voice and the Punchy, algorithmic language of the music itself.
Astounding to me.
Please react to 2112 by Rush, love you guys :D
Death-flesh and the power it holds
Tyler Porter One of my favorite Death songs!!
Hey Vin! Take a break and go on a hike with Sori. She deserves it haha
Great discussion guys!
great review,i totally forget this
Fair To Midland should make the list at some point ;)
Wayland C Yes! FTM is a gem of a band!
Reign of darkness- Thy art is murder (music video)
Land of snow and sorrow- Wintersun
Carbon phrases- Alkaloid
Crushed- Parkway Drive
I'm gonna spam this on every video
Is this a test?
it has to be...
it has to be
Otherwise i can't go on
Draining patience, drain vitality...
Dan Ruiz this paranoid paralyzed vampire acts a little old
Please check out “I’m The Mountain” by Stoned Jesus.
Just Ed that whole Stoned Jesus - “Seven Thunders Roar” album is fantastic
Dredg - Bug Eyes
The beauty of lyrical ambiguity that Maynard goes for in general is particularly evident and impactful in this song in my opinion. The double perspective of the patient and the caretaker can be applicable to any listener that goes through some mental illness independently of Maynard's personal story. In this case the listener identifies both with the the patient and the caretaker of himself and has to be patient to work through his own issues, while recognizing the possibility for defeat ("And I still may"). No wonder Tool has been therapeutic for many people!
This song is growing on me
This song puts me in a sad trance. I found myself not even paying attention to their reaction about midway through
Vin talking about being terrified of being relegated to tedious tasks reminds me of stories about prison camps during WWII. They'd have the prisoners carry heavy sacks of rocks from one end of the camp to the other... and then carry them right back to the start. Imagine being used as a mule and then being robbed of even the satisfaction that you did anything useful or helpful. Truly horrible.
Disturbed - Inside The Fire would be awesome. Keep up the great work, your content is amazing and the commentaries are DEEP
Hey Vin are you a Faith No More fan? They were big influences of Korn and System of a Down. Their singer Mike Patton is very prolific. Their best album is (arguably) Angel Dust.
Phantomas
TOOL, as a band, don't quite appreciate how influential they are. Which actually makes them even more influential. Why? Because the band allows OUR imaginations a measure of agency that is lacking in most pop music.
I interpret this song as the perspective of one's awaiting response from divinity, or at least a justification for being on a path of seeking divinity.
"A groan of tedium escapes me, startling the fearful."
Basically the sigh of frustration of someone about to give up on the path causing others (the fearful/God-fearing) to take notice and become concerned.
"Draining patience, drain vitality. This paranoid, paralyzed vampire act's a little old."
The inability to quench an endless thirst whilst doing everything in your power to seek it is draining. (Quick note: the inclusion of the apostrophe in the word "act's" makes all the difference).
"If there were no rewards to reap / no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would have walked away by now. If there were no desire to heal a damaged and broken man along this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would have walked away by now."
If it weren't for the positive encounters along the way, those met along the journey, and the connections and ability to find fulfillment in helping each other along the path, an easier path might have sufficed.
I've never tried to put this song into words before, but to summarize, I would say that a path of faith isn't always an easy one, and one is not always confident about the choice to take it.
The guitarist Adam Jones wrote "Eon Blue Apocalypse" in remberence of his late Great Dane named Eon who died from bone cancer.
I think the beginning instrumental is dedicated to Adam Jones dog that passed away, so I've heard.
In This Moment - Big Bad Wolf
The Patient is about record labels, not his mom as far as I've read and maybe he even said so before a performance a few times? Like it wouldnt be worth the draining sacrifice that it tskes to make such perfectionist self-serious music and deal with shitty vampiric record execs if not for the loving embrace of fans and listeners etc
TOOL have talked a lot about the ethos of their music being about providing nothing more than a conduit for introspection and healing for the listener which also jives with this lyrically
Two songs about record label on a spiritual album? I don't think so. Ticks and Leeches definitely though.
Qliphirot Just something ive heard, the patient is a song that can be interpreted a lot of ways if you dont stress about discerning what it meant to Jimmy Keenan
Guys, you need to do Bathory's - One Road to Asa Bay, please!!! I know you will love it
I feel like this song has pertained to so many different parts of my life.
Korn untouchable was 2002
I'm loving all the Tool reviews you guys are amazing.. speaking of new bands Vin ...
Amon Amarth - Under the Northern Star 😉
Perhaps both the title and the stanzas can be read from both perspectives (she is A patient, he is BEING patient...the patient can be the plural/idea of patient people "the patient [people, relatives of the ill]").
Nekrogoblikon - We Need A Gimmick, its lots of fun, with cool lyrics and killer vídeo.
That beginning part was the bass guitar doing that wawa sound
Vin, I’d love to hear your thoughts on Untouchables since you brought it up. It’s not classic Korn, for sure, but there are some highly underrated songs on there IMHO.
lmao at the story about Sori asking the guy for the Tool album that just came out. I think rumors about a new Tool album are around since like 10 years, it's basically a meme at this point. That's probably why the guy played along with it. "haha the new Tool album. That's what you want. Suuuure."
Sparky, Sit... Good boy... hahah
React to Death by Slaughter To Prevail, the vocalist of the band has one of the most demonic sounding growls of all time. They are in my top five.