Can Amber Avoid Paying the Judgment with Bankruptcy?
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This case is a goldmine for legal students across the globe in that it shows one of the prime examples of how to lawyer on Camille's side, and one of the prime examples of how not to lawyer on Elaine's side at the same very time :') Similarly we've had a grand spectrum of all kinds of witnesses worth talking about as well.
If someone made a movie like this, it would be unbelievable. Good lawyers and good witnesses all on one side and bad lawyers and bad witnesses on the other? Nah, that feels stilted and unreal.
As they say "Truth be stranger then fiction".
Elaine wasn't that bad. She had a bad client and bad facts. Don't get me wrong, she wasn't stellar, but I'd bet if you went back in time and somehow swapped Camille and Elaine, we would have seen the same outcome.
@@ConsciousExpression Probably on the same outcome, but Elaine IS a bad lawyer. From unethical behaviour like insinuating that Tremaine and Depp lied to the jury (without any evidence to back it up) to abysmal cross (asking the same question several times or adding "if any" doesn't overcome objections) there are several things that not only but her in a different class of lawyer then Camille, but solidly but her into the bad lawyer category.
You can only do so much with a bad case and a bad client, but Elaine managed to make it worse (which is some sort of acomplishment I guess).
@@MrNorker77 Elaine used to be a great lawyer. Top Ten lawyer in Virgina and member of a certain group that only 1% of all lawyers in a state get into. However, she might have lost the plot.
@@ConsciousExpression Everybody keeps saying this, but I don't buy it. Elaine spent almost half an afternoon trying to get hearsay evidence (the EMT rapport of Amber's nose) in, and failed spectacularly.
Camille had the same situation (Morgan Tremaine) and masterfully directed Tremaine towards the right conclusion.
Johnny's team made sure all the witnesses were capable and likeable, when Amber's team couldn't even manage to find a comb.
Johnny's team were fulle prepared and ready for anything Elaine might throw at them, Amber's team looked like they thought they would win, just by playing the sympathy card.
By “bankruptcy” she means “don’t want to pay”, she uses them synonymously
🤣🤣🤣 I just chortled 🫣
I agree this is just another delay tactic. She is giving herself time to keep working on JD (hoping he will settle without the money) and begging for a contribution and bailout from anyone with lots of money, no names needed here. I just hope Mr Depp stands his ground, leave it all to his legal team.
Depp doesn't want the money, and the time to settle has passed. Depp offered to settle on the condition that Heard didn't appeal, and now here we are.
She has that frozen embryo with Elon. I wonder if she's tried leveraging him with that. That's a lot of child support if she has it.....
I think she wouldn't accept any compromise anyway. It's always her way or the highway, and based on her behaviour she doesn't ever want this to end, since this is her last tie to having control of JD.
@@Wilhelmena3 But what she doesn't realize is that Johnny is done with her!! He is moving on and just wants her to shut up! I truly feel for Johnny. She just continues wanting to abuse him. She truly needs mental help and that poor child needs protection.
if she has no money he will settle with no money
This case should be used in law schools. Also Amber NEVER paid any of her law suit from her own pockets, she has always used her insurance to pay. I do wonder who pays her insurance though.
No matter what Amber MUST pay cos she has the money e.g. the $7million dollars we still dont know what she did with the money.
Its clear what she did with the 7mill, she spent it.
Yes, the price of wine and drugs has gone up. Inflation, don't ya know.
$7 million, plus whatever she made from all her movies and modelling contracts. And all her financial gifts from wealthy men. I think AH has plenty of money, she's just put it in property, and her sister's and daughter's name to protect it, and then filed bankruptcy.
@@susy2265 You forgot buying a freaking house/mansion in the desert.
@@MikeTheEnforcer And living in a $22,500 rent-per-month house during the trial
Whether she files bankruptcy or not, she still has to pay the judgment.
no she pays a percentage
@@gardenersgraziers7261 no, likely the full amount
@@Cell287 if she has 5 million and owes 10 million the payout will be 50%
@@gardenersgraziers7261 and any further money she earns will go to jd until all of that is done. If she has a house he gets the house and she need to get a flat. She has to öive like an average person
@@gardenersgraziers7261 Don't know where you are getting your info from but BBB is correct in stating the U.S. law has exceptions to discharge & the malice portion of the judgement makes the 10.35M her responsibility. The bankruptcy judge MIGHT lower the amount to be paid, but as in overturning a jury trial in the U.S., seldom happens.
I'm assuming that she has mountains of other debts. Despite having a $7 million divorce settlement and $2 - $3 million from Aquaman, she lives like she has much more from what I understand. She never expect to lose the defamation trial because narcissists always think their lies will be believed, she probably gave herself a 50 / 50 chance of winning a judgment for her counter suit as well. If she won as the defendant against JD's suit, she'd be good for another movie or two and her career as a spokesperson and UN ambassador would have been secured. She never thought she'd lose in a million years.
If she filed bankruptcy, has nothing to do with losing the lawsuit to Johnny. Her legal team must have explained to her can’t use bankruptcy to avoid the payment. Her lawsuit was paid by insurance. Amber has been over spending. It’s her own financial in trouble with or without paying Johnny.
Karma sure knows how to sting, doesn't it? Greetings from Greece!
Yes! Sting like the bee her dog stepped on !! Hahaha!
This whole mess AH brought on herself. This is a good case to be used for examples and education and the awareness that men also are victims of being abused.
I suspect AH has been living well beyond her means for a very long time. This came up many years ago as a possibility to explain why she pursued JD. Long ago I'd read somewhere that she was spending tens or it might have been over a hundred thousand a month (the figures that sit loosely in my memory are either $14K a month or $140K a month) leaving her in a very tricky situation which looks & youth may have allowed her to get away with up to a point. I guess she was always on the lookout for someone to pick up the tab. Friends and family would have encouraged her to utilise her looks while they lasted. Considering there is a possibility that she spent over $20K per month on a rental house near the courthouse, I'd be very surprised if the rumour mill wasn't at least close to the truth. Apparently it's why so many people were concerned about her being a gold-digger and JD picking up the tab only confirmed the suspicions of friends and almost everyone associated with him or interested in his wellbeing. Poor lad.
The 6 acre property she bought and put into a trust (just before covid) only supports the probability that she is a schemer and is willing to play the long game. It's a game that people have a very hard time believing, but as a person who has shared a family home and had relationships with at least one NPDer, the long game is a winning tactic from their perspective, and all the moreso because they know witnesses find it hard to believe that someone can plan and execute such extraordinary evil for decades. I have to wonder if she bought her child to ensure she would have a human shield and a darned good excuse, as well as a sympathy card. I hope the child is somehow safe & does NOT turn out like her, or suffers in any way because of her.
All this is speculation and opinion based totally on the rumour mill. None is fact to my knowledge, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of truth in there somewhere,....or not.
I thought the baby was a sympathy tactic as well. She can't be thst broke as she pays for a full time nanny, why can't she look after the baby herself? She is still flying around in private jets and first class. It's amazing to me that she gets away with it, but banks seem to allow rich people to run up millions in debt! Oh and don't forget her taste for $40,000 bottles of wine! I could never conceive of paying that much for a drink of any sort.
@@shendisackett If it makes you feel any better realize if AH files bankruptcy the banks will only get pennies on the dollar (if anything) yet she will STILL have to pay JD. :-)
@@Lynn-kh5rs good point, serves the banks right. I wonder when the nanny will quit, I'm not sure bankrupt unemployed people are allowed to claim a nanny as a necessary expense!
Just a thought....a property in trust does not necessarily protect the property. I used to work as a real estate title examiner and with a lot of lawyers. And my ex is a lawyer. (My advice....NEVER marry a freaking lawyer cuz divorcing them is a b*tch).
Anyway....if someone is both the trustee and beneficiary it is considered a 'dry trust' and is able to be accessed in law suits.
Would love to hear any comments from any legal types here.
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Only gawd knows how she blew 7 million from Johnny and 2 million from Aquaman, to end up taking a mortgage loan for $500,000 to buy her house in the desert...
The suspension bond is just to prevent johnny from collecting during the appeal, it is not required. And it actually seems to me that instead of paying the suspension bond to prevent JD from collecting she filed for bankruptcy which will freeze creditors from being able to collect until the bankruptcy judge determines what is dischargeable and what is not. But I do agree I strongly doubt the bankruptcy judge will discharge the judgement against her for JD because of the fact that the jury found malic
Haven’t actually seen the documentation she’s filed for Bankruptcy, it’s still a rumour until then.
When I think about Amber Heard being bankrupt, it's not usually financial.
yep, morally and ethically bankrupt.
Her wine cellar is full, as is the swimming pool - with bottles.
I'd be interested to see the list of who/what she owes and wants to get out of paying. I bet she has run her credit cards to the max for one. She probably hasn't paid for her expensive digs during the trial and owes the wine distributor a small fortune. etc. I hope we get to see the list.
I’d be interested to see if she has deposited large sums of money into certain friends bank accounts.
@@linzi94 lol I was thinking the same she’s going move all her money an say I don’t have anything
Good morning, happy to start my day with one of your videos!
Thank you so much for these summaries. You are the only channel I am still (and have been) watching concerning the JD/AH case, because you are straight to the point, easy to listen to, and you never disappoint. I wish JD would employ you to get the UK verdict appealed. Greetings from Germany.
Me as well. I used to listen to the live stream legalese but OMG, they're hours long and I'd forget their points before they're done. Good lawyers but they talk too much and don't stay on topic.
@@ronifae8286 I absolutely agree.
No doubt she has stock up on that expensive wine first though
It would be tracked down and sold, it's classed as an asset and there will be a paper trail.
You are right though, she probably tried it.
If it were me, they'd have to track it through my kidneys into the loo.
--What they do with it after that is not my concern.
What an incredibly silly girl she is her insistence on trying to destroy JD she has completely destroyed herself including, probably, her ability to return to work and put her life back together. I have no doubt she’s ensured her financial future … ahem baby daddy? 🤷🏼♀️ … and if Katie Price is any example bankruptcy doesn’t seem to have much of an impact on their way of life anyway.
Yeah, so many self inflicted wounds. She could have kept her divorce money and walked away, and nobody would have said anything. Instead she had to try to destroy his life. She saved up dirt throughout their relationship, and she wanted to use it.
How do I know she was saving dirt, and not just documenting what happened? Amber used just as many drugs as Johnny did. But for some reason she only took pictures of Johnny's drugs and Johnny's drug use.
Taking pictures of felony activity by your spouse, when you also engage in that activity, is super shady. Even if she didn't indulge herself it's destructive, dishonest behavior. But when combined with the fact that we know she used cocaine as well, it's just shady man.
She wanted to marry a rich old dude and take him for everything she could get. She had a plan from day one, pretend to be the doting wife for as long as she could stand it, collect all the dirt she could manage, and then frame him for whatever she could get away with. It's sickeningly manipulative
Maybe she’ll get an “Only Fans” page?
@@Trevor_Austin But her only fans are her sister and girlfriend, so it's not going to make her any money and she'd still have to pay a % to the judgement.
She will cry sexism , me too will back her . She will get work
This has gone to court she dv to Johnny Katie price is different
Delay is a clear tactic to avoid paying the receivers damages in full
Always interesting. The Depp v Heard case has really sparked my interest in multiple aspects: mental health, body language, and legal process. TheLawyer You Know has even done videos of insurance contracts and loopholes since AH’s insurance companies have refused payment. Now we have more information on bankruptcy law. Thanks to this case, channels, learning something new every day. 👍
there is a lot of mis-information on social media about this but this is spot on, ive went trough pages and pages about the Virginia law and even so called lawyers where dead wrong saying that she didnt need to pay bond or Johnny... She has to pay one of the two by Virginia law if she wants to go trough ! The law states she has a right to appeal and the appeal cannot be dismissed UNLESS she doesnt pay the bond OR the appellee (Johnny) so that means she'll need to pay either bond OR Johnny !!!
It would be easier to understand if you mentioned which Bond you are referring to.
@@thekitowl there is only one bond left to pay and that's the suspension bond... The $500 bond is only to file a notice of appeal and you can't even get around that, the court clerk wouldn't even docket the notice without the $500... Also there is only one bond to pay when she refuses to pay Johnny and that's the suspension bond... As soon the appeal goes through the appeal court will put the appeal on hold according to the Virginia law and give Amber 21 days to correct the defect, if she fails her appeal gets dismissed forever.
@@JerryDoe the suspension Bond is not required under Virginia law in a civil case & it’s not mentioned in the final judgment. If a huge amount of money in Bond form was needed in order to appeal it would stop Ms Turds legal right to appeal.
@@thekitowl Virginia law states, she has to pay the suspension bond if she doesnt pay the appellee (Jhonny) furthermore is specifically says that if shes to be found in defect of paying the appellee (Johnny) she has 21 days to correct this, the court will give her 21 days where she can choose to either pay the suspension bond or Johnny ! that is what the virginia law says, that's is whats written in black and white on the Virginia law website. come back when you have actually read it... (it literally says the suspension bond is not required UNLESS she doesn't pay the appellee...)
I might also add that this was designed to prevent her from escaping her debt, the "suspension" literally means to "suspend" her debt to Johnny that is what it literally is designed for and there is a great section written in the Virginia law what steps will be taken if no suspension is posted and she fails her payments...
So in short, the law states she can skip payments to Johnny if she pays a suspension bond, the law also states that she doesn't have to pay a suspension bond if she pays Johnny (logical right ?) and just under that clause it states that she cant do neither (not pay bond and not pay Johnny) she has to choose one of the two....
Then the law states what actions will be taken if she fails to do so... then it states that she got 21 days extra to correct the defect... if she still fails after 21 days the law states her appeal gets thrown out...
There are 2 notations at the end of this clause, where it gives the remaining exceptions for not paying bond:
1) the appeal court in rare cases may waive the bond for both parties (rare and never happened before)
2) both parties agree to waive the bond during the appeal
Those are the only 2 last resort exceptions at the end of this clause.
@@JerryDoe ruclips.net/video/uj681cs443E/видео.html this is an Appeal lawyer from Virginia & so far he’s been on the money.
Thank you for always being so precise and clear in explaining things.
Americans should note that bankruptcy is very different between the US and the UK. BBB mentions some of them that are relevant to this case, but the differences go much further
Wow you're smart
As a non legal commentary; he was pretty much spot on for US information.
Could this also be seen as a tactic to not repay back the home insurance companies who are wanting the money back they have already paid out for the case, because of AH' being found guilty of willfully defaming JD or does that repayment still stand because of the outcome?
The insurance company who paid her legal fees aren’t coming after AH. The insurance company that was supposed to pay $1 million towards the judgment is .
@@thekitowl Yes they are. They are suing her to get the court to recognise that she made a malicious claim against JD and therefore they do not have to pay out the $1m.
@@Thurgosh_OG that’s what I said.
The questioning of TMZ Morgan by Camille was so class as it avoided the hearsay objections a great lesson for training lawyers 👏 👍
I remember someone talking about this before the trial even started but couldn't remember what was said, so cheers for the memory refresh
Excellent explanation as always!! Thank you!!!
This channel is excellent, thanks for making these videos
Thank you very much for this coverage. It was illuminating.
Having worked in collections department at retail level. Some of your explanations cleared up some of the questions people have about bankruptcy.
I enjoy your voice; appreciate your professional commentary..
Thank you for being on RUclips ☺️
Thank you Blak Belt Barrister!
You have said the same as I but I so enjoyed your version.
So eloquent!
Have a great day!
Good morning! I just missed you live. It’s 5:22 here in Texas. I always enjoy your videos. Hope you are well.
Thank you !! I so enjoy the detailed and accurate responses/analysis...I learn something from every video you post. I do feel sad about all the hate that AH is receiving and by that I do not mean the challenges/legal analysis to her testimony and comments/reflections on the court case - these are necessary and invaluable. I have a family member who has a personality disorder and it has fractured the family- it is incredibly sad. AH has so many enablers around her I'm not sure she'll find a way out from this or find the kind of support she needs. However, having been on the receiving end of someone like AH, at home with my family member and at work ... there's no choice but to expose it/challenge it. I am still traumatized because someone from work took out a complaint against me re bullying and harassment..I went through months before it was resolved via investigation, however, even though it was proved I had not acted in any way inappropriately, there was no consequence for the false allegations. For example, she complained I harassed her because I sent her 20 emails in a day..the facts were that there were 6 staff with different timetables trying to arrange a mutually convenient time to have a meeting! Yes, there were 20 emails but it was a 6 way conversation about arranging a mutually convenient time to meet! That was only one of about 15 ridiculous claims. However, because bullying and harassment is an important issue my employer had to address it however, I had to prove my innocence and it was months of a cloud over me and my career. It actually broke me, it was traumatic...people don't want to be on the wrong side so they distance themselves from all of it. AH was quite a triggering individual for me. I enjoy your analysis of the legal processes/arguments, while you come across as firstly a decent human, you give an objective analysis and it is always interesting! Thank you again!! Also, in one of your videos you said that we have the choice to do something or do nothing..and that doing nothing is a choice...so each day now I chose to do something! Thank you for that wee snippet of motivation. I can now count 2 gems of motivation in my life - 1)It doesn't have to be like this and 2)chose to do something rather than choose to do nothing!! Thank you again and keep doing what you are doing :)
What if she moved her assets under other’s name or hidden somewhere before filing bankruptcy?
Filing bankruptcy not only allowed her to skip the donation pledge, but also avoid the possibility to pay back the insurance etc, I guess
We will see how her post-filing living conditions will be, whether she could maintain her luxurious living style.
hidden asssets can be "clawed back" into the trustee of bankruptcy
There are serious penalties for doing this. A well known tennis star is currently serving time for doing just this.
That generally is some sort of debtors fraud under different names if it can be shown that you hid assets or maliciously on purpose changed their owners to someone else.
I think if thats done after he sued her they can collect them still. But im not sure about that. I think law and lumber made a video about what they can get and what not.
wasn't there mention the house was in holding under another's name? if so would it show she has already been doing this.. And have to then ask just how much pre meditation was there..
Many thanks for this presentation.😁👌👏👏👏
Hi, wanted to say how much I appreciate the time you put onto explaining things. Makes listening to something i am not really good at, The Law, much more understandable.
You are awesome with your breakdowns on all this legal stuff matters of this case
I did hear from one of the other "YOU TUBERS" that the TIME FRAME for her Attorney's to APPEAL has lapsed ???
JD and AH has submitted applications to appeal by the deadline. They both have 90 days to submit their legal briefs.
Excellent vídeo blackbelt, like you always do.
She only has to pay the full suspension bond if she wants to avoid collection. Robert Byrne, an attorney in Virginia breaks it all down here... Hey Emily! AH doesn't have to pay the suspension bond unless she wants to prevent collection of the judgement. Here's a link to a video from a lawyer in Virginia that explains the codes in Virginia. ruclips.net/video/uj681cs443E/видео.html
Thanks for all your incredible content! Much Love! 🖤
Hi Amanda, I know Robert Byrne I hope he is well. Also hope he comments on Amber’s debacle.
Sorry Amanda wrong Robert Byrne, another attorney next to Fairfax Va courthouse- I believe his expertise is similar.
Depp's legal team made sure malicious internet was one of the findings to be included in the document the Jury had to complete, as they must have anticipated Heard would try to weasel her way out of paying Johnny were she to lose. Camille, Ben and all the young associates on Johnny's legal team did an amazing job representing him and they continue to do.
omg that manual zoom 🤣hate it so much
Thank you for talking about the bankruptcy. Love your video’s
There have been a lot of articles out during the past few months concerning AH that have been totally inaccurate. I will believe it when I see it.
Bankruptcy laws can vary in the U.S. so it depends on where she filed….IF she filed. She may just choose a state that would protect her assets better than some other state and established residency there. Whatever she is up to you can bet it will be shady.
She owns a home in California, and I am sure the home is already leaned for the judgment. She won't be able to get another home loan with the judgment against her. She spent the 7 million on world travel after she got it, and what she had left she has been vacaying it up in fancy homes in resort areas. Spending it as fast as she can to keep JD from getting it I believe.
I agree that AH will do anything & everything shady to avoid paying, but being that the judgement against her involves malice, she will have a tough(to say the least) time finding a way out of it legally unless she wins the appeal-doubtful-or reaches an agreement with JD. No doubt she would go to any and every means(immoral, unethical, blackmail, theft) to avoid it.
What happened to the $ 7 million she waa paid in 2017 - 2018 from the divorce? She didn't donate it? Is it in a Swiss bank accounr?
Thinking the same thing!!!!!!!
You think a woman like her doesn't spend 1-2 million a year on luxuries?
Add to that her earnings as a model and actress (Aquaman movies $3 million).
She bought a few properties...
Up her nose, in expensive bottles of wine and in trust for her daughter I'd wager
Good morning 6am here in Tennessee
11am here in Manchester England
Early Good Morning to you!
Great vid!
We were told AH couldn't appeal unless she posts the 10.3 million bond. It turns out she only needs $500 to appeal and the bond only needs to be posted to stop collections.
I'm reserving judgement on the truth of AH not being able to escape paying by declaring bankruptcy.
This info has taken ages to sink in with Tubers but hopefully most have the info now.
People mentioned it initially as a distant possibility, but no one thought she would let the collections just hang over her. Before the insurance payments became public, everyone thought that she was bankrolling her lawyers out of pocket. If she was, then she would need to logically post the bond to appeal so that Depp's team couldn't just send it to collections and take away her legal team. Instead, she seems to be going all in and banking on them not collecting, which is a really weird move strategically. She claimed after the trial that he is an abuser that used the system and his influence to take everything away from her out of spite for speaking up and to continue to control her. If that was true, why is she seemingly relying solely on his good will not to send her to collections and take away her legal team?
The only strategy I can see this being an angle for is she's baiting him to collect so she can play the victim again and claim he took her lawyers away and that's why she's losing. The issue is that she's already lost in the court of public opinion, and that strategy relies on people believing her over him that he's the one pushing her around. The issue is that the Depp team has showed a lot more patience with her post trial games than most of the public would, and is simply responding to only each move individually while calling them out. Files motion, counter motion. Files appeal, counter appeal. It's VERY hard to play the victim when the other side is only countering your actions. It also doesn't explain where she expects to pay the lawyers from, unless she somehow thinks she can then roll that into a counter offensive and get crowdfunding and jobs back at a rate far higher than she's ever made in her career before
All she’s paid so far is the $500 fee of notice to appeal. She can’t appeal for real without paying up. It might come time for the appeal and it’s rejected because she lacks the money.
Don't forget one of her insurance companies is coming after her as well. Man she put herself into this now she is reaping the rewards of her lies.
No the 500 was only to allow filling, she would still need to pay the full ammount either to JD or into bond plus intrest. Only then would the appeal actually be considered. If by some miracle she then won on appeal shed get the money back, but she needs to have put the money up front or its going nowhere.
Simple answer.... *NO!*
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Good afternoon to you Sir from good old Blighty. If AH does file for bankruptcy, and goes ahead with a purported book deal after she files, what issues would arise ? Many thanks for your great content.
One of the strategies maybe a delay tactic. Bankruptcy can initiate an "Automatic Stay" which means that the collectors who are in the middle of collection actions, are automatically stayed or paused. It may be that JD's judgement cannot be discharged, but the collection can be delayed. If AH can delay 6 to 10 months, it may be that she can gather enough funds for a bond.
lol. I was thinking that was what she would probably end up doing. Serves her right for conniving. Cheers m8.
I think she was always going to file for bankruptcy as a way to keep JD from starting to demand payment. While in bankruptcy your creditors cannot ask for relief (including JD ). I also agree with the comments that another reason is to keep the insurance companies from collecting.
Yes but the jury found her guilty of defamation with malice. Meaning she set out out to basically destroy his career and personal life. Because it was with malice bankruptcy won't discharge it
Any chance of a video about courts in england and wales being allowed to be recorded now?
The court judgement for defamation is NOT dischargeable not in VA and not in CA
Case aside, In New Zealand you have a thing called no assets procedure, that is a alternative to going bankrupt. Its only up to a set amount $$ wise and is of a lesser time frame that it stays on record. Also only some debts are covered. Bankruptcy is a higher $$ amount than a no assets and i think more or different debts can be included. But with both you are allowed to own a car worth upto a set amount and house too i think unless payments are behind then its a different case
I knew it, as soon as the court was released, I heard that she’ll appeal her judgement, but if she loses appeal she can NOT file due to her willful intent! She knows she is buying time.
Great content. Thank you as always.
In case some people care confused. She doesn’t have to pay the suspension bond to appeal. She only had to pay it to stop JD collecting during the appeal process. She didn’t pay it.
Although we didn’t see JD post a suspension bond to stop AH collecting her 2 million.
@@thekitowl I think if he’d paid the 2mil suspension bond it would have seemed vindictive. And if she’d immediately tried to claim the money (2million) from him she’d come across as desperate for cash, and it also might have provoked JDs team to collect the 10+ million she owes him, which she definitely doesn’t want to do.
There is an interesting point at least in the US I just learned. A person can get bankruptcy filed by a person or company they owe money to. This is covered by 11 U.S. Code § 303. Because AH did not post a suspension bond and it is later discovered she has hidden money JD can "bankrupt" AH and force the issue. It is interesting talking to people that actually know the law. JD can file against AH, force her into bankruptcy, go after any and all assets she has, and that judgment is STILL in place. I also was told it is growing interest as well. In all honesty, AH needs to stop acting like a 6-year-old child and contact JD and settle this!
Why would he listen? Perhaps he could sell the debt to the mafia and let them settle with her?
He tried to do that with her many times and tried being imo an overly nice guy after what she had already done to him. She made her choices and I agree with the other commenter…wth would he or should he try to talk to her and work anything out at this point?!?! He shouldn’t feel bad at all and maybe this whole situation will make her take a good look at herself…and seek the serious mental health help she needs!!
@@Goldie9899 I know, that is why I preceded that comment with a conditioned statement about AH acting like a small child. No adults anywhere in her life! Just a bunch of HIGHLY TOXIC people like Eve Barlow et al that will be the first to bail when that ship sinks!
JD tried to settle with her long before the trial, but she didn't listen and now these are her consequences. She doesn't deserve anything from JD now. He doesn't care and has moved on, good for him. But she needs to pay fully for her actions to diminish her possibilities to do it again because she won't learn anything from this mess. Always the victim in messes she created.
@Nick Giorgione I date a Virginia Based Attorney. She specializes in Family Law. She and I were discussing this very topic last night. All of what happens next is based on how much energy and money JD wants to invest. He can get AHs bank records and track large deposits and withdrawals. The places where those withdrawals went in some cases can be tracked. In today's world, it is not easy to hide money in institutions. Even the Swiss banks have opened up more to allow people to track banks there. Even if AH is hiding cash, all cash withdrawals over basically $9,000 to $10,000 have to be reported. Just as there are fantastic "skip tracers" that can find people, there are people that can find money worldwide. The firm my GF works for has recovered millions over the years by using these types to find money.
Well... Maybe now we'll finally find out where the Hell did AH's 7 million divorce settlement money disappear.
did you ever do a breakdown on the legal aspects of the Wagatha Christie trial in the UL? might be interesting
In the US two types of Bankruptcy chapter 11 and chapter 13 one designed to give the filler time to pay “all” creditors and the other to wipe out everything and start fresh the first must have amble funds to pay everyone within certain time frame and the second every funds available will go first to pay equally whatever available. Both has exceptions
The case that just keeps on giving.
You can sue her arse but she won’t pay.
But it would stop the law firms from going after her for the legal fees!
The insurance company that’s going after her isn’t the one that’s forked out $8 million for legal fees.
Remember OJ and the civil case? His pension and his house (IIRC) were ring-fenced.
Please listen to Depp singing "Hallelujah"wonderful
Sucks to be Amber's lawyers, who may never get paid and have garnered so much bad publicity, Elaine!
There are so many conflicting information around the bonds.
Bond Amount + Legal Fees + Oncoming Lawsuit by the insurance company + 7m PLEDGE.
Good Luck with that 😊
Well she needs to rehearse her lines for her future career:
"D'ya want fries with that?"
I think they can say no to bankruptcy because of malice intent.
Oh wow I hope she didn't steal money from Johnny!
Maybe she will catch a flight to Australia to avoid paying anything
The insurance companies might review their policies after AT case
She cannot evade payment of the judgement by filing bankruptcy. She paid $500.00 to file the appeal, but that filing didn't help her in the way of a delaying tactic because she missed the deadline to put up the bond on Monday the 25th. She can file an appeal again, but since she missed this deadline, Johnny can now begin taking legal action to start acquiring the judgement from her. This is how it was explained by Emily D, Baker and some other attorneys here in America.
Cant stop watchin the train wreck which is AH
Course she can, it hasnt stopped price from buying range rovers and tropical holidays.
Note what BBB said about differences between US and UK bankruptcy law.
Sadly KP is British, so very little of BBB's comments here would apply to her
Just a shame, unlike the UK COSTS are not also awarded.
Public info. You have to share so if you owe people money they know.
Does the appeal bond have an expiration date to be paid by? I have seen some reporting that there was and she missed the pay by date..
You have become my "go to" lawyer for understanding further situations regarding this situation. Plus, you have the best voice. There are so many "voices" on YT now. But imho you are the best. Put AH in "Pauper's Prison" Lying sack 'o dodoo.
Where is the $7 million she received in her divorce settlement? This also needs looking into and she should be shamed into donating what she promised! What with this case and the UK political circus it’s been a few months of popcorn and beers!
I think she might also be trying to appear sympathetic - 'he made me bankrupt!' etc
A suspension bond is not required in the USA. A bond stops collection only. It only "holds" off enforcement but if the claiming party isn't enforcing there is nothing to hold "off". For example if Depp files a Judgement against her Income from a book deal it would be in effect unless there is a suspension bond. Depp has not filed any claims.
She only needs to pledge the payment the same way she pledged the charitable donation. According to her testimony under oath its the same thing.
Pick a focal length and stick with it given me motion sickness
I hope that the public is getting an eye full of the dirty, devious tricks that unscrupulous people will go to. You can't expect in this day and age that anyone will care about fairness or for the well-being of anyone but themselves. They have evolved into a more selfish and ruthless animal. God help us!
The Nerd Repot announced that she is being replaced from Aquaman by Ben Affleck (Batman). Star Jason posted on his page and director liked his comment. This may also be reason what pushed her to declare bankruptcy.
Ben Affleck as Mera?
I'm still boycotting,
But for different reasons.
Do you have a podcast?
😆
My dog stepped on a bee
Causing me to be bankrupt
Cara D and James Franco... why aren't they running to her rescue? LOL
Will you explain the new trial with Shakira vs Spain?
If her insurance company is successful in their judgement, AH will still be responsible for attorneys fees as well. In the US, many debts can be relieved, and any assets are "collected" and sold. The money is then dispersed to all creditors in line of importance at a certain percentage. For instance, mortgages are paid at a higher rate, after paying any taxes due, clear down to credit cards.
Her Travelers insurance aren’t coming after the $8 million in legal fees, it’s her other insurance for $1million who don’t want to pay.
Attorney Christopher Melcher was on Popcorned planet and said she can appeal without the suspension bond but JD can then enforce the verdict in the meantime. I think shes trying to use a loophole that would at least slow down his collection without the bond.
My feeling is this bankruptcy is because the insurance company is coming after her for legal fees they paid on her behalf. Her policy excluded defamation with malice and now that she has been found liable for this, the legal fees they paid would not cover it.
She is certainly regretting the court case and the I'll advised subsequent TV interview 🇬🇧
When someone declares bankruptcy, are there any assets that cannot be seized to pay the debt, such as a home, furnishings, vehicle, etc.? I thought AH recently purchased an expensive property in Arizona.