I have used both stoves for 40 years. I can't believe I have been camping that long. Wonderful video. Older quality Coleman stoves are great. I just did not know until recently that I have been a prepper my whole life.!!!!
I’m 40 years old. I’ve been using the Coleman liquid fuel stove my grandpa gave me when I was 16 this entire time. It has never failed me. I’ve used it many times every year since I’ve had it. Probably burnt through thirty gallons of fuel. I’ve only had to replace the pump plunger once. Best car camping stove ever.
I have VOLUNTEERED at the local Goodwill. We received a 1949 3-BURNER stove in LIKE NEW...never used condition in the ORIGINAL BOX from 1949. Being a camper...I priced it (I did all the pricing) at $25.00. It literally FLEW OFF the shelves. Glad that somebody with a real treat.
Nice vice info. I tried all kinds of camp stoves but I always go back to old school Coleman white gas. Years ago we ate cold food on our hunting trip. Propane stove flames was so low in cold temps, now white gas is a no fail, no brainer. 🤙🏽🤙🏽 keep up the good works
We used the white gas stove in the Canadian army & I've used them down to -45c. Spare parts are easily accessible, as long as the green case is still good you can get all other parts, you might want to have a spare generator, & something to lube the pump. We'd use them in the Arctic tents in winter for heat & cook in the summer.
I’ve got 2 old Coleman liquid fuel stoves. A 2 burner and a 3 burner. I’ve used both for probably 50 years. When I light them, I will turn the line valve to the down position once the burner flame goes blue. The burner flame will go back to a yellow flame for 2-3 seconds then right back to the blue flame. I may be getting old now but learned and enjoy cooking on both of them!
Also, another plus for the older white gas Coleman stove is the fact that there are good used ones available at nearly every garage sale and e marketplace site at prices well under the cost of a new unit. Coleman stoves, lanterns and canoes rock! 🇨🇦
I found one at a camp site that someone had thrown out next to the propane bottle return cage. Nothing wrong with it and still had a bit of gas in the tank. My guess is that the user did not know how to use it properly.
Thanks for this helpful video! I have the liquid fuel version from the 80's. going to dust it off and do some camping again. And going to look for the propane attachment you showed. Thanks again!
Super video! The very best video I've found comparing the two versions of Coleman stoves! I've used the liquid stove since I was a kid but, regrettably, gave it away years ago...now looking to purchase a stove for emergency service and wanted to explore both models available today. Thanks again for such a great video and comparision!
Bought a Coleman at garage sale 2 years ago, best 10 bucks I ever spent. 10 cents of gas to fill and last about 5 hours on full Cooked some dang good meals on this and saved my butt on a cold night too, lol
Yup, the stoves are great. The fuel is better ! We ran out of gas late a night trying to get to Al's parents house (3am) and had passed up a station off the interstate that was still open. Al poured the Coleman Fuel straight from the can through a funnel made from the Rand McNally Atlas Cover into our 1973 VW Bus. We were able to drive BACK 20 miles to that station, buy real gas and continue on to Al's parents with our 9 month old son that night. Al has NEVER run out of gas ever again.... 😎
I also have both style Coleman stoves, my pick is white gas. Once you learn how to use it, it just so reliable and stays lit in the wind blowing on the burners.
I just reunited with using a Coleman stove. I grew up with my dad using one everywhere then fast forward to me at aged 50. I got a second hand 424 and was pretty freaked out at setting fire to gasoline but watching this video helped me understand using it a lot. Outdoor cooking is good. Thanks.
Excellent video! I have owned 1 of the propane stoves and everything you said about yours rang true for the one I had. I have always wondered about the liquid fuel stoves and your presentation was VERY helpful. I think I'll look around and get one of each now. I have a "Buddy" propane heater for emergencies or camping heat so I have plenty of green 1lb. bottles and the fittings to refill them. But I can see the efficacy and I believe, the slight superiority of the liquid fuel stove in terms of economy, function and versatility
Makes me feel nostalgic! My parents had these stoves... liquid fuel ones back in the 70's. I remember my father buying a three burner at a garage sale and was so happy because they already had the two burner one. They are great! I really don't camp all that much but I think it might be time to start! :)
Several things about the two stoves,white gas is the hottest of all the stoves including the isobutane backpacking stove.It all comes down to convience and application.White gas if used indoors puts of an odor same with the lantern,propane emits little odor stove/lantern,obviously one is more compact than the other,your best bet for camping with propane is to used a #20 cylinder with a tree that way there are several outlets the top outlet for your lantern the side outlets for whatever.I use a gas line and hook it up to my stove,it takes a while to run a #20 cylinder empty,do love the white gas for the reason as mentioned for the same amount of fuel white gas will longer,with propane and a #1 cylinder you will have to pack out when empty,whereas there are storage containers for white gas.I used a single burner white gas stove when I went to the boundary waters I had purchased an outback oven which was totally collapsible and backed a cherry pie while we were there.Novel.Used them all as mentioned,application will determine what to use.Thanks for the info keep putting out the videos.
For me the main advantage of liquid fueled stoves is that the fuel is far more dense. For example, a 1lb propane canister will run your stove for less time than a similarly sized container of liquid fuel.
While true, the propane ones are SO much easier to use...turn it on, light and cook......compared to pumping up the tank, messing with liquid fuel, etc.....that propane is the only way to go. Same for lanterns. Want to cook a LONG time, get a hose adapter for a 20lb propane bottle. I grew up camping in the 50-60's, and I'd NEVER go back to a liquid fuel version.
@@edsmith4414 well I car/tent camp for several weeks a trip. Carrying the bulky propane tank or paying the high prices on the camping stores for the little ones would be ridiculous in my case. Pumping is not a big deal, a bit of exercise and you have a stove that can cook much longer and in my opinion hotter than propane. Now if you’re in an RV you have plenty of space but RV is not for me at all, then again everyone has preferences using what works for you.
Great video. Thank you for the detailed information. I have a vintage white gas stove and am considering replacing it with a new propane version. I was not aware of the propane adapter. After watching your video I am planning to just get the propane adapter. Keep up the good work!
The Coleman 425 liquid fuel stove definitely! You can't beat the versatility it offers. It can run on liquid fuel or propane. Just add the propane generator adapter, propane tank, and your set!
I accidentally forgot to fill up the tank on my old 70s liquid fuel Coleman stove a couple camp trips ago and ran out of fuel half way thru cooking breakfast. After moving skillets to the fire I remembered I had zippo lighter fluid with me, dumped it into the tank and she lit right back up just fine. I'll never get rid of my old trooper, it's so simple and has never let me down. Plus the fuel is cheap and lasts forever. I've had a large can of Coleman fuel for 10 years now and am finally getting down to needing a new can this year. I don't camp every other day but frequently enough that that is pretty impressive to me.
I got a 50's model from a friend at a yard sale. I then got a dual fuel later that'd been used very little. The 50's burns as good as the newer one. I don't want a propane stove. And the hiss is pure comfort! Thanks!
My dad was using unleaded fuel in his stove, early mid sixties, before they had duel fuel. I have 3 old Colman fuel gallon cans some one gave me from the 70's, un opened. Just tried one on my stove. The fuel is fine.
I had one of these 25 years ago. I lent it to my parents for a road trip and never retrieved it. Dad still had it in his shed somewhere, time to retrieve it I think.
I still have my parents one that we brought over in the states in the same year and the only item I have had to replace is the nozzle. Difference with ours is, that it looks like it came from 1983 and been to every war in between.
Excellent input and examples of the pros and cons. Greatly appreciated, and I've decided on buying both types, just in case, cause it gets very cold in my parts of the country, so thank you.
Excellent video. I learned a lot. I didn't know about the lp adapter for the 425, or that they will work on kero. Also refreshing to again hear about the working temperature differences between the 2 fuels. I have 2 Coleman's, a '72 425E and a '95 5426-700 (propane). The 5426 is 7500 btu per burner. Fyi I have been reading up on the Camp Chef "Mountain Series" propane suitcase stoves and some of their burners are 20,000 btu's. Mixed reviews about durability, adjustability, etc. though.
I love the sound of the 425!!! Reminds me of my father, when he went out for deer hunting, with his buddys, before I was old enough to go with him. That was in the early '70's.... He still has his old 425, still working (just needed to oil the rubber washer inside the pump, if was dried out) And I have mine... I also have different propane stoves, but nothing brings me those nice memories. (And how about the taste and smell of bread toasted on those burners??? Wow!!)
I use premium gasoline in all my Colman liquid stoves the trick I use and works very well. Is seafoam mixed in I don’t buy white gas it a rip off. The seafoam keeps your fuel system clean. I have taken old Colman stoves that barely work let the mixture set in the system for around one year dump out the tank the fuel is usually brown remove the needle and clean it usually that fix’s the problem
I like the nostalgia of the old stoves and lanterns. I have a stove and lantern from the 60's and although my tent is from the 90's it is a heavy canvas wall tent with a floor. If there is any kind of a small hike in, I have a light weight home made cart for the tent. If it's more of a grand hike, I have a light weight canvas pup tent with canvas floor that I've had since boy scouts in the 60's. Those trips are cooking on camp fires and flashlights. For a spark lighter, I use a flint acetylene torch starter. Same thing as yours.
Liquid gas is my kind I had stoves like these all my camping years. I picked a Coleman for $10 it was 37 years old and was never used, great buy.I love them I have 3 of them.
I know this is an old video so not sure if you still read the comments but, this is a fantastic and thoughtful camp stove review. Just subscribed. Thanks.
Great information! I had 5-7 year white gas sitting around and saw another YTr use old WG. It takes longer run times to get to the same temp when using older fuel, but it does work and mine ran clean as a whistle. Like the propane bottle attachment! Will order one when I find one for sale. I also have a 2 burner propane stove as back-up and/or extra burners when needed. I would thin gasoline would be easier to find than propane when we collapse soon. Maybe wrong so I want options. Another reason for the propane only extra stove.
Coleman stoves are great. I use one in my outdoor garage along with my wood-burning stove. One addition I made was to bolt down the unit to a table top. It keeps the stove from sliding around while cooking and is a safety factor. I have also found out the cast iron skillets and pots work best on these units! Thanks for sharing.
When the older stoves were designed, cast iron was more commonly used. Notice the heavy duty grate on the 425, white gas unit? It's built for heavier cook ware than is common today. My ex and I used one of those for 2 years. As our only cooktop. Now I'm wondering what happened to that stove?
I've had nothing but good resolute using my propane 2-burner stove by Coleman, usd many times in my 74 dodge van for coffee n cooking, so it comes down to owner preference I've used mine well below zero with no issues so it's still up to the person but both are great products
A company called Jarden group bought Coleman and a bunch of other brand names, basically most brands found at Wallymart. They then had their engineering team engineer all of the quality out of the products to increase their profits. Yes, Harden is owned by a bunch of jewish guys in NY.
@@elmatador6589 😱😩🥺. That is sad. The Coleman name goes way back in time. Not sure when Coleman started manufacturing their line of products but, according to my father-in-law, they used Coleman lanterns during WW2. All of my camping appliances were made by Coleman starting back in the mid 1960's and still work like a charm. I've had to replace the generators, globes and, the pump mechanism on them but that's to be expected. They've been used a lot. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Super helpful video For whatever it’s worth I’m glad I bought the propane for the exact reason you mentioned. Knock on wood but I’ve never had a problem with it not working in the cold or wind. But coldest temp I’ve used it in was probably 25F. Thanks for the video
Ive been in the woods allmy life . And 45 years ive been a long haul trucker ive used both stoves. I like the white gas over propain. . I had my kitching sorta on the truck . Cook my own food. Saved money . About 10 graND a year .
Nice video. I have an old white gas stove, I think from the 70s in my basement. Need to get it out and fire it up! I have always used a 2 burner propane stove. It was nice because it was slim (no side panels) and I could slide it into my saddlebags on the motorcycle when I went camping. The bad thing on the propane was that it did not work very well in cold temps and it pretty much never worked if it was very damp outside (rainy weather). So I think I am going to see if that old Coleman still works. Someone gave it to me 6-7 years ago or so....looks good. We'll see.
I have a propane two burner stove and have not had any problem starting and using it below 20 degrees F. I worked in a fire-tower for five years and used it to cook my meals. At the end of the season qlmost every morning was at 20 or lower and it always fired on the first try.
I liked their stoves so much in the 70's that I bought other accessories, like their oven. Their oven was made well but fanciful fiction. Keeping the temp steady enough outdoors to really cook something interesting is a challenge to say the least. Coleman didn't always hit things out of the park, but for the most part they were reliable.
Nice Video. I love my 3-burner 426D and have it setup for White Gas and Propane. Unleaded gas is filthy and too many other additives. I would suggest you get a 5 lb or 11 lb propane tank that is meant for refilling, or buy the 1 lb. propane tanks that are meant to be filled instead of the single-use canisters. Coleman's 3-burner stove has not been in production for many years and I wouldn't pass up on a cheap older one. You can find all of these stoves used and often in like-new conditon and/or you can get them running perfectly with a little maintenance. You can lubricate the propane stove knobs and get it a little better simmering adjustment. I will definitely pickup one of those starters.
I have the coleman classic propane stove. I also have 2 of the 425s and a 426D. I love coleman stuff, if you take care of most of it, it can last 50 years or more.
Interesting video. One way to reduce proppane cost is a five pound cylinder that's easily refillable and a connecting hose. May also (with the valve on the tank) be able to adjust the simmer on the propane stove.
Great video - My 2 cents. Costs of white gas around here (Coleman, Crown etc.) have gotten ridiculous so I have sold all my equipment and gone propane - I now refill the Flame King 1 pound propane bottles and it's a WAY lower cost per BTU now as white gas and I've found it much easier to find propane when travelling (it's everywhere) than white gas. And when I did find white gas while travelling it was $15-$20 a gallon in remote areas and sometimes more! Propane is about $3.00 a gallon here and stable across the nation and that gets you about 91,000 BTU's - White gas around here is $8-$12 a gallon for 115,000 BTU's. A 20 pound tank of propane is about 4.7 gallons and takes about the same space as 5 gallons of white gas so storage isn't an issue. So that's something to think about these days depending on where you live.
I have old school workers great I like it better for emergency due to fuel didn't know they made a propane conversion I do have the refill stuff use at deer lease for heaters etc.good vedio thanks a ton
just checked my stove is a 425E 1967-1970 apparently. Bought it in an antique mall. It looks like new. Had to fire it up after watching this. Going to get some fuel to put away as what is in it I put in it when I bought it several years ago and worked just fine.
I went back to the white gas a few years back after a fishing trip in the Columbia R gorge. The wind was blowing a steady 25 mph in the evening and my LP gas Colman , just the one you have, wouldn’t get the oil in a black frying pan hot enough to fry the fish we had caught. We always used white gas Colman’s back in the 60’s and 70’s but I start using the LP stove for convenience but I’m back to gas now and I like it much better.
I just got a 1981 coleman two burner stove 425 in it's original box and never been opened from ebay and excited to put it to good use on my hunting trips. Nostalgic wins over modern cheaper models any day
We switched over to the liquid stove after using a propane stove for many years because of fuel availability in remote areas and because of the far superior control. Percolated coffee is close to impossible on a propane because it won't go low enough, also too easy burn food. Our second propane stove had the grate higher than the slim model as shown here, but still not good enough. Because the liquid model seems old-fashioned, they are cheap and easy to find, as mentioned.
i use regular unleaded in my stoves and lanterns but i also put about 2 or 3 cap fulls of berrymans b12 in each tank as well and i dont have to clean out the generators very often they work great just a suggestion to you all
@@sherryn39455 sea foam is more of an oil based product. I don't see any harm in trying it. I just always used berrymans B12 cause my grandfather used it. It's more of a harsh cleaner.. if you use seafoam. Let me know how it works 😁
Thanks Blackbear Prepper! I have the white gas duel fuel stove but I haven't used gasoline yet because of all the additives, white gas is much cleaner. If I remember correctly, there is a BTU advantage to propane vs white gas. I didn't know about the propane adapter for the liquid fuel stove, that was very useful, thanks!
Good job on the video. Go with the 424, its' a dual fuel stove and is made for gasoline unlike the 425. I just got a mint one for $10 at the thrift store.
Mine is from probably 1974,.....until last year it still had the same fuel,.....yeah it worked fine the bluest blue you ever seen,.............but after I dumped the fuel and put new in. It was used till 1976,.....moved and it was on a shelf. I think it was used in 2 blizzards. Coleman had some great stuff.
I have both of them and both work great but my favorite is the propane stove. Its easyer to find propane than coleman fuel. Here anyway. And propane stores for 30 years without treating it. My generator is propane to. Sometimes I wish for a power outage. I'll keep prepping because it'll happen again some day
Great video! Im a young, single mom and my own father even lives far away now so I have to learn a lot on youtube about topics I never thought I would even have to learn about! My daughter and I went through hurricane Sandy which destroyed our home and for weeks we were living off of Red Cross food and Halloween candy lol. This time we have a coleman stove but going into this Hurricane season, I realize I had no clue how to use it so this is super helpful, thank you so much! Now I just have to take it out of storage and figure out which stove I have lol. I was just at Walmart and had no clue which fuel to buy...but you made everything very clear and took the fear I had of using it away plus we love camping so hopefully we can use it even if there is no hurricane haha. Thanks again!!! 🏕🍳🔥👩👧
bksaun as she said, she is a beginner. It’s in storage so OBVIOUSLY she can’t see whatever directions you speak of. I hope it made your day to be a dick for absolutely no reason. Please, for the love, grow the hell up. Immaturity is ugly on you.
Jennifer F my apologies, I should have said stamped instead of print, I think everyone took it wrong. seems everyone is looking to jump down someone’s throat at every chance. My point was if they stamped instructions instead of stickers that wear away , the instructions would be permanent. Guess I didn’t make myself very clear. But you sure did.
I have an off grid cabin. I'm also at 6,100 ft elevation. Propane is not as effective at this altitude, therefore I use the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. I have no problems boiling water with the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. On propane, I must use a lid to get water to boil. So, I converted over to the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. From a survival point of view, my opinion is propane will not be existent b4 gasoline runs out at the pump. It also used to be that Crown white gas, was half the price of Coleman white gas. Suddenly, Crown fuel, is the same price as Coleman fuel, now. So, we found a bunch (5)of new 424 generators at Habitat for Humanity and jumped on them. The price was right! Picked up one new pump assembly and 2 new Coleman rubber pumps and the clips.
Just got a 425b from offer up for $15. It doesnt have a latch it has bars on the side the slide over the whole unit. Im wondering when it was made. Just needs a new filler cap but i used one from my pocket stove and works perfect. According to a coleman website my model was from 1954-1962, what a steal. New cap was $12 online and im still only in about $27!
There is a small vent hole in the middle of the pump knob. If you un-cover it on the out stroke and cover it on the compression stroke, you will likely not have that kind of yellow flame ups and re-pumping is usually not needed. Also, when initially filling the tank, leave about 20% for air to compress. This applies to all other Coleman liquid fuel stoves.
Get propane conversion for the Coleman White Gas stove and have the best of both worlds with the exception of the spark ignition. My Coleman White Gas stove is the model 425C.
I have a hardly-used 425F that was given to me that I absolutely love. Now I'm getting a propane conversion generator, a griddle, and maybe an oven and I'm set! A carry/storage bag to put it all in would be nice! Anyone have a recommendation for that? Great video! I've subbed your channel. Cheers - Luther
An up date. I just got a brand new Colman stove new in the box . Never used bate on it is 1953 . Got it for 20 buck at a flee market in New Hampshire. I now have 5 stoves and 8 lanterns all work mint and like new . Deals are out there , you just have to look . Can you make a survival video with the stove in the rain or snow or high winds that would be cool . Keep up the good work
Im 52 years old and I still remember being on then McKenzie river Around fort Simpson N.W.T. back in the seventies in my parents river boat which was totally enclosed and we used to go way up river every weekend in the summer and then we would just drift back to Simpson all weekend and dad had canoes and a small ski boat type boat we would tow for my older brothers and sisters to water ski behind and mom had two of those in the boat and that's how she cooked for us! It was a different life back then before television was brought into the community I'll say this television wrecked everything! Two years after television we pretty much stopped doing that!
Thank you for that glimpse back in time. It's before my time. I grew up in the USA in the 1970's and always had a TV, but also played outside until dark every day. I hope our children will know good days like that...
Great job on the video . I would include the set up time to boil to be fair. I'm never in that big of a hurry to cook. That is part of the fun of camping.
Propane every day of the week...mind you, I love my old Peak 1, but for a typical camping weekend, my propane stoves (a two-burner Century Primus and a single-burner Coleman) start easy and are low on drama. If you have a 20-pound cylinder for your gas grill at home, you can refill the spent 1-pound cylinders with an adaptor.
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8 years later this review still came in handy. Thank you sir!
You are very welcome glad you like the video sorry it's taking me this long to get back to you
I have used both stoves for 40 years. I can't believe I have been camping that long. Wonderful video. Older quality Coleman stoves are great. I just did not know until recently that I have been a prepper my whole life.!!!!
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I’m 40 years old. I’ve been using the Coleman liquid fuel stove my grandpa gave me when I was 16 this entire time. It has never failed me. I’ve used it many times every year since I’ve had it. Probably burnt through thirty gallons of fuel. I’ve only had to replace the pump plunger once. Best car camping stove ever.
I have VOLUNTEERED at the local Goodwill.
We received a 1949 3-BURNER stove in LIKE NEW...never used condition in the ORIGINAL BOX from 1949.
Being a camper...I priced it (I did all the pricing) at $25.00.
It literally FLEW OFF the shelves.
Glad that somebody with a real treat.
Nice vice info. I tried all kinds of camp stoves but I always go back to old school Coleman white gas. Years ago we ate cold food on our hunting trip. Propane stove flames was so low in cold temps, now white gas is a no fail, no brainer. 🤙🏽🤙🏽 keep up the good works
We used the white gas stove in the Canadian army & I've used them down to -45c. Spare parts are easily accessible, as long as the green case is still good you can get all other parts, you might want to have a spare generator, & something to lube the pump. We'd use them in the Arctic tents in winter for heat & cook in the summer.
I’ve got 2 old Coleman liquid fuel stoves. A 2 burner and a 3 burner. I’ve used both for probably 50 years.
When I light them, I will turn the line valve to the down position once the burner flame goes blue. The burner flame will go back to a yellow flame for 2-3 seconds then right back to the blue flame. I may be getting old now but learned and enjoy cooking on both of them!
Also, another plus for the older white gas Coleman stove is the fact that there are good used ones available at nearly every garage sale and e marketplace site at prices well under the cost of a new unit. Coleman stoves, lanterns and canoes rock! 🇨🇦
I found one at a camp site that someone had thrown out next to the propane bottle return cage. Nothing wrong with it and still had a bit of gas in the tank. My guess is that the user did not know how to use it properly.
Just picked one up at a garage sale for $10. Just needed to be washed but works like new!
The 60 dB is from the barking dog in the background. Lol!
Why cats > dogs
Thanks for taking the time to explain the difference between these stoves. 👍🏻
Thanks for this helpful video! I have the liquid fuel version from the 80's. going to dust it off and do some camping again. And going to look for the propane attachment you showed. Thanks again!
Super video! The very best video I've found comparing the two versions of Coleman stoves! I've used the liquid stove since I was a kid but, regrettably, gave it away years ago...now looking to purchase a stove for emergency service and wanted to explore both models available today. Thanks again for such a great video and comparision!
Bought a Coleman at garage sale 2 years ago, best 10 bucks I ever spent. 10 cents of gas to fill and last about 5 hours on full Cooked some dang good meals on this and saved my butt on a cold night too, lol
Yup, the stoves are great. The fuel is better ! We ran out of gas late a night trying to get to Al's parents house (3am) and had passed up a station off the interstate that was still open. Al poured the Coleman Fuel straight from the can through a funnel made from the Rand McNally Atlas Cover into our 1973 VW Bus. We were able to drive BACK 20 miles to that station, buy real gas and continue on to Al's parents with our 9 month old son that night. Al has NEVER run out of gas ever again.... 😎
I also have both style Coleman stoves, my pick is white gas. Once you learn how to use it, it just so reliable and stays lit in the wind blowing on the burners.
I just reunited with using a Coleman stove. I grew up with my dad using one everywhere then fast forward to me at aged 50. I got a second hand 424 and was pretty freaked out at setting fire to gasoline but watching this video helped me understand using it a lot. Outdoor cooking is good. Thanks.
I own a dual fuel Coleman...love it!!. This has been passed down from my older brother he got it in the 70's
I have a three burner Coleman stove I bought in about 1975 that my grandkids are fighting over who will inherit it. It's a workhorse! Great video.
Excellent video! I have owned 1 of the propane stoves and everything you said about yours rang true for the one I had. I have always wondered about the liquid fuel stoves and your presentation was VERY helpful. I think I'll look around and get one of each now. I have a "Buddy" propane heater for emergencies or camping heat so I have plenty of green 1lb. bottles and the fittings to refill them. But I can see the efficacy and I believe, the slight superiority of the liquid fuel stove in terms of economy, function and versatility
Dad gave me the one on the left.
It’s 30+ years old and all I have done was replace the plunger gasket/spring.
It will always go out with me.
Are you turning the valve to the down position after one minute or so?
If you're not. The stove will run out the compressed air and go out.
Thank you for making a really good video. I have been using both stoves for over 44 years. God bless Old Coleman.
And there main products still made in the USA!!
Makes me feel nostalgic! My parents had these stoves... liquid fuel ones back in the 70's. I remember my father buying a three burner at a garage sale and was so happy because they already had the two burner one. They are great! I really don't camp all that much but I think it might be time to start! :)
Get back into it! I just bought a 3 burner on kijiji on Saturday didn't know they existed until I saw it so had to have it.
Got a 2 burner and a 3 burner Coleman stove. Love them. Got a one burner butane to use in the house for emergencies.
Several things about the two stoves,white gas is the hottest of all the stoves including the isobutane backpacking stove.It all comes down to convience and application.White gas if used indoors puts of an odor same with the lantern,propane emits little odor stove/lantern,obviously one is more compact than the other,your best bet for camping with propane is to used a #20 cylinder with a tree that way there are several outlets the top outlet for your lantern the side outlets for whatever.I use a gas line and hook it up to my stove,it takes a while to run a #20 cylinder empty,do love the white gas for the reason as mentioned for the same amount of fuel white gas will longer,with propane and a #1 cylinder you will have to pack out when empty,whereas there are storage containers for white gas.I used a single burner white gas stove when I went to the boundary waters I had purchased an outback oven which was totally collapsible and backed a cherry pie while we were there.Novel.Used them all as mentioned,application will determine what to use.Thanks for the info keep putting out the videos.
Thank you for the comment
Now I know that a Coleman stove and the neighbors dog barking have a combined DB rating of 60.
One of the most detailed and comprehensive comparisons between the two stoves I think I have ever seen. Thanks.
For me the main advantage of liquid fueled stoves is that the fuel is far more dense. For example, a 1lb propane canister will run your stove for less time than a similarly sized container of liquid fuel.
While true, the propane ones are SO much easier to use...turn it on, light and cook......compared to pumping up the tank, messing with liquid fuel, etc.....that propane is the only way to go. Same for lanterns. Want to cook a LONG time, get a hose adapter for a 20lb propane bottle. I grew up camping in the 50-60's, and I'd NEVER go back to a liquid fuel version.
@@edsmith4414 Yes, but they keep going up in price and you cannot get them easily when traveling - especially in Mexico.
@@edsmith4414 well I car/tent camp for several weeks a trip. Carrying the bulky propane tank or paying the high prices on the camping stores for the little ones would be ridiculous in my case. Pumping is not a big deal, a bit of exercise and you have a stove that can cook much longer and in my opinion hotter than propane. Now if you’re in an RV you have plenty of space but RV is not for me at all, then again everyone has preferences using what works for you.
@@edsmith4414Hank Hill, is that you?
Propane is easier if you have easy access to it. I like keeping a liquid stove because you can burn white fuel, camp fuel, kerosene, and unleaded gas.
Great video. Thank you for the detailed information. I have a vintage white gas stove and am considering replacing it with a new propane version. I was not aware of the propane adapter. After watching your video I am planning to just get the propane adapter. Keep up the good work!
The Coleman 425 liquid fuel stove definitely! You can't beat the versatility it offers. It can run on liquid fuel or propane. Just add the propane generator adapter, propane tank, and your set!
Where can you find the propane generator adapter for the dual fuel cap stove. Been searching the internet but haven't found one yet. Thanks
@m.o.f8720 mr heater makes a nice one. It was on Amazon last I checked.
I have a Coleman stove that I bought back in 1971 and I am still using that stove when I go camping.
i have the one on the left. i bought it in the seventies and still works like a champ. i’ve used to cast bullets on it for years.
Man what a greatly informative video, 5star my friend.
I accidentally forgot to fill up the tank on my old 70s liquid fuel Coleman stove a couple camp trips ago and ran out of fuel half way thru cooking breakfast. After moving skillets to the fire I remembered I had zippo lighter fluid with me, dumped it into the tank and she lit right back up just fine. I'll never get rid of my old trooper, it's so simple and has never let me down. Plus the fuel is cheap and lasts forever. I've had a large can of Coleman fuel for 10 years now and am finally getting down to needing a new can this year. I don't camp every other day but frequently enough that that is pretty impressive to me.
I got a 50's model from a friend at a yard sale. I then got a dual fuel later that'd been used very little. The 50's burns as good as the newer one. I don't want a propane stove. And the hiss is pure comfort! Thanks!
I agree also more nostalgic filling it up pumping the pressure up :)
@@alwayscuriousalwayslearnin The gas lasts longer than propane too.
My dad was using unleaded fuel in his stove, early mid sixties, before they had duel fuel. I have 3 old Colman fuel gallon cans some one gave me from the 70's, un opened. Just tried one on my stove. The fuel is fine.
I had one of these 25 years ago. I lent it to my parents for a road trip and never retrieved it. Dad still had it in his shed somewhere, time to retrieve it I think.
Thank you very much great video kept me interested unlike a lot of other one's
Found a 425f made in 1983 that looked like it had been used once or twice at a garage sale. This was about 2 years ago and paid $7 for it.
Is that a Rottweiler
Great score.
I’ll give 14 for it. See...you can double your money. 😁
I still have my parents one that we brought over in the states in the same year and the only item I have had to replace is the nozzle. Difference with ours is, that it looks like it came from 1983 and been to every war in between.
I just bought a 413 g for 5 dollars at a yard sale and it works perfect... I did buy the propane conversion for it
Excellent input and examples of the pros and cons. Greatly appreciated, and I've decided on buying both types, just in case, cause it gets very cold in my parts of the country, so thank you.
FyI, propane does not work well, below zero.
Excellent video. I learned a lot. I didn't know about the lp adapter for the 425, or that they will work on kero. Also refreshing to again hear about the working temperature differences between the 2 fuels. I have 2 Coleman's, a '72 425E and a '95 5426-700 (propane). The 5426 is 7500 btu per burner. Fyi I have been reading up on the Camp Chef "Mountain Series" propane suitcase stoves and some of their burners are 20,000 btu's. Mixed reviews about durability, adjustability, etc. though.
I love the sound of the 425!!! Reminds me of my father, when he went out for deer hunting, with his buddys, before I was old enough to go with him. That was in the early '70's.... He still has his old 425, still working (just needed to oil the rubber washer inside the pump, if was dried out) And I have mine... I also have different propane stoves, but nothing brings me those nice memories. (And how about the taste and smell of bread toasted on those burners??? Wow!!)
Great comparison! Thanks for posting this.
I use premium gasoline in all my Colman liquid stoves the trick I use and works very well. Is seafoam mixed in I don’t buy white gas it a rip off. The seafoam keeps your fuel system clean. I have taken old Colman stoves that barely work let the mixture set in the system for around one year dump out the tank the fuel is usually brown remove the needle and clean it usually that fix’s the problem
Excellent Video! Thank you for sharing. I loved learning that you could run the liquid stove on propane with the converter. So cool. Thanks.
You can also get an adaptor+hose for the converter so you can run it from BBQ propane tanks or larger LPG tanks.
Crystal clear instructions!! Thank you so much.
I like the nostalgia of the old stoves and lanterns. I have a stove and lantern from the 60's and although my tent is from the 90's it is a heavy canvas wall tent with a floor. If there is any kind of a small hike in, I have a light weight home made cart for the tent. If it's more of a grand hike, I have a light weight canvas pup tent with canvas floor that I've had since boy scouts in the 60's. Those trips are cooking on camp fires and flashlights.
For a spark lighter, I use a flint acetylene torch starter. Same thing as yours.
Liquid gas is my kind I had stoves like these all my camping years. I picked a Coleman for $10 it was 37 years old and was never used, great buy.I love them I have 3 of them.
I know this is an old video so not sure if you still read the comments but, this is a fantastic and thoughtful camp stove review. Just subscribed. Thanks.
i love these Coleman stoves they last for generations and i have packed them into the woods for non car camping too
Great information! I had 5-7 year white gas sitting around and saw another YTr use old WG. It takes longer run times to get to the same temp when using older fuel, but it does work and mine ran clean as a whistle. Like the propane bottle attachment! Will order one when I find one for sale. I also have a 2 burner propane stove as back-up and/or extra burners when needed. I would thin gasoline would be easier to find than propane when we collapse soon. Maybe wrong so I want options. Another reason for the propane only extra stove.
Coleman stoves are great. I use one in my outdoor garage along with my wood-burning stove. One addition I made was to bolt down the unit to a table top. It keeps the stove from sliding around while cooking and is a safety factor. I have also found out the cast iron skillets and pots work best on these units! Thanks for sharing.
When the older stoves were designed, cast iron was more commonly used. Notice the heavy duty grate on the 425, white gas unit? It's built for heavier cook ware than is common today. My ex and I used one of those for 2 years. As our only cooktop. Now I'm wondering what happened to that stove?
I love cast iron skillets. The coated pots and pans will give you cancer as the coating wears off and gets into the food, then in your gut!
I've had nothing but good resolute using my propane 2-burner stove by Coleman, usd many times in my 74 dodge van for coffee n cooking, so it comes down to owner preference I've used mine well below zero with no issues so it's still up to the person but both are great products
coleman is a tribute to the phrase, "they don't make em' like they used to."
A company called Jarden group bought Coleman and a bunch of other brand names, basically most brands found at Wallymart. They then had their engineering team engineer all of the quality out of the products to increase their profits. Yes, Harden is owned by a bunch of jewish guys in NY.
@@elmatador6589 😱😩🥺. That is sad. The Coleman name goes way back in time. Not sure when Coleman started manufacturing their line of products but, according to my father-in-law, they used Coleman lanterns during WW2.
All of my camping appliances were made by Coleman starting back in the mid 1960's and still work like a charm. I've had to replace the generators, globes and, the pump mechanism on them but that's to be expected. They've been used a lot.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Now made in China, say no more.
@@Blagger3000 🥴😠😡🤬😢.
@DANDNB Jarden was acquired by Newell-Rubbermaid about 3 years ago. Look it up. Google or some such.
Super helpful video
For whatever it’s worth I’m glad I bought the propane for the exact reason you mentioned. Knock on wood but I’ve never had a problem with it not working in the cold or wind. But coldest temp I’ve used it in was probably 25F.
Thanks for the video
Super glad you like the video thank you for your comment
I have a 3 burner Coleman Guide Stove. Propane. Great cooker! Easy for car camping.
I would love to see a Kerosene test w the priming method you mention.
Ive been in the woods allmy life . And 45 years ive been a long haul trucker ive used both stoves. I like the white gas over propain. . I had my kitching sorta on the truck . Cook my own food. Saved money . About 10 graND a year .
Nice video. I have an old white gas stove, I think from the 70s in my basement. Need to get it out and fire it up! I have always used a 2 burner propane stove. It was nice because it was slim (no side panels) and I could slide it into my saddlebags on the motorcycle when I went camping. The bad thing on the propane was that it did not work very well in cold temps and it pretty much never worked if it was very damp outside (rainy weather). So I think I am going to see if that old Coleman still works. Someone gave it to me 6-7 years ago or so....looks good. We'll see.
WOW very cool video. I have the dual fuel two of them never used brand new still in the box. Didn't know you could buy an adapter for propane.
Best video on RUclips for these stoves! Thanks
I have a propane two burner stove and have not had any problem starting and using it below 20 degrees F. I worked in a fire-tower for five years and used it to cook my meals. At the end of the season qlmost every morning was at 20 or lower and it always fired on the first try.
Some great info there thanks! They made things to last in the ole days..
I liked their stoves so much in the 70's that I bought other accessories, like their oven. Their oven was made well but fanciful fiction. Keeping the temp steady enough outdoors to really cook something interesting is a challenge to say the least. Coleman didn't always hit things out of the park, but for the most part they were reliable.
the coleman oven works, but requires some practice to get it to work well. not for people with no patience..
@@marzsit9833 Yeah it works, but it doesn't work 'well' except on dead calm days.
Thanks for the vid...nicely done.
Nice Video. I love my 3-burner 426D and have it setup for White Gas and Propane. Unleaded gas is filthy and too many other additives. I would suggest you get a 5 lb or 11 lb propane tank that is meant for refilling, or buy the 1 lb. propane tanks that are meant to be filled instead of the single-use canisters. Coleman's 3-burner stove has not been in production for many years and I wouldn't pass up on a cheap older one. You can find all of these stoves used and often in like-new conditon and/or you can get them running perfectly with a little maintenance. You can lubricate the propane stove knobs and get it a little better simmering adjustment. I will definitely pickup one of those starters.
Great comparison video. I'm thinking of buying one of these and having never used one the comparison really helped.
very good lesson on camp stoves. I feel I got a lot of good facks. Thank You
I have the coleman classic propane stove. I also have 2 of the 425s and a 426D. I love coleman stuff, if you take care of most of it, it can last 50 years or more.
thank you for talking about the lighter you have at the end, I was wondering what brand that was the whole time.
Interesting video. One way to reduce proppane cost is a five pound cylinder that's easily refillable and a connecting hose. May also (with the valve on the tank) be able to adjust the simmer on the propane stove.
Great video - My 2 cents. Costs of white gas around here (Coleman, Crown etc.) have gotten ridiculous so I have sold all my equipment and gone propane - I now refill the Flame King 1 pound propane bottles and it's a WAY lower cost per BTU now as white gas and I've found it much easier to find propane when travelling (it's everywhere) than white gas. And when I did find white gas while travelling it was $15-$20 a gallon in remote areas and sometimes more!
Propane is about $3.00 a gallon here and stable across the nation and that gets you about 91,000 BTU's - White gas around here is $8-$12 a gallon for 115,000 BTU's. A 20 pound tank of propane is about 4.7 gallons and takes about the same space as 5 gallons of white gas so storage isn't an issue.
So that's something to think about these days depending on where you live.
I have old school workers great I like it better for emergency due to fuel didn't know they made a propane conversion I do have the refill stuff use at deer lease for heaters etc.good vedio thanks a ton
just checked my stove is a 425E 1967-1970 apparently. Bought it in an antique mall. It looks like new. Had to fire it up after watching this. Going to get some fuel to put away as what is in it I put in it when I bought it several years ago and worked just fine.
I got one of those white gas coleman stoves. Is what my family used when i was younger and is what i wanted👍 i like them
Nice video.
I needed a refresher on my stoves.
Glad you liked it
I went back to the white gas a few years back after a fishing trip in the Columbia R gorge. The wind was blowing a steady 25 mph in the evening and my LP gas Colman , just the one you have, wouldn’t get the oil in a black frying pan hot enough to fry the fish we had caught. We always used white gas Colman’s back in the 60’s and 70’s but I start using the LP stove for convenience but I’m back to gas now and I like it much better.
I have 3 1980's double burners, two propane and 1 white gas and a single burner 502 that's also white gas. Love vintage tools.
I just got a 1981 coleman two burner stove 425 in it's original box and never been opened from ebay and excited to put it to good use on my hunting trips. Nostalgic wins over modern cheaper models any day
We switched over to the liquid stove after using a propane stove for many years because of fuel availability in remote areas and because of the far superior control. Percolated coffee is close to impossible on a propane because it won't go low enough, also too easy burn food. Our second propane stove had the grate higher than the slim model as shown here, but still not good enough. Because the liquid model seems old-fashioned, they are cheap and easy to find, as mentioned.
i use regular unleaded in my stoves and lanterns but i also put about 2 or 3 cap fulls of berrymans b12 in each tank as well and i dont have to clean out the generators very often they work great just a suggestion to you all
Would seafoam do the job?
@@sherryn39455 sea foam is more of an oil based product. I don't see any harm in trying it. I just always used berrymans B12 cause my grandfather used it. It's more of a harsh cleaner.. if you use seafoam. Let me know how it works 😁
I just got a coleman stove 413g in pristine condition for 5dls at the swapmeet😉😊
Thanks Blackbear Prepper! I have the white gas duel fuel stove but I haven't used gasoline yet because of all the additives, white gas is much cleaner. If I remember correctly, there is a BTU advantage to propane vs white gas. I didn't know about the propane adapter for the liquid fuel stove, that was very useful, thanks!
White gas has more energy and cooks faster than propane.
Good job on the video. Go with the 424, its' a dual fuel stove and is made for gasoline unlike the 425. I just got a mint one for $10 at the thrift store.
Just picked up a 1976 colmen 2 burner model 425 in new condition for free. Stoked!
Mine is from probably 1974,.....until last year it still had the same fuel,.....yeah it worked fine the bluest blue you ever seen,.............but after I dumped the fuel and put new in.
It was used till 1976,.....moved and it was on a shelf. I think it was used in 2 blizzards.
Coleman had some great stuff.
I have both of them and both work great but my favorite is the propane stove. Its easyer to find propane than coleman fuel. Here anyway. And propane stores for 30 years without treating it. My generator is propane to. Sometimes I wish for a power outage. I'll keep prepping because it'll happen again some day
Great video! Im a young, single mom and my own father even lives far away now so I have to learn a lot on youtube about topics I never thought I would even have to learn about! My daughter and I went through hurricane Sandy which destroyed our home and for weeks we were living off of Red Cross food and Halloween candy lol. This time we have a coleman stove but going into this Hurricane season, I realize I had no clue how to use it so this is super helpful, thank you so much! Now I just have to take it out of storage and figure out which stove I have lol. I was just at Walmart and had no clue which fuel to buy...but you made everything very clear and took the fear I had of using it away plus we love camping so hopefully we can use it even if there is no hurricane haha. Thanks again!!! 🏕🍳🔥👩👧
That’s why they should
print directions on the lid of the stove.🙄
bksaun as she said, she is a beginner. It’s in storage so OBVIOUSLY she can’t see whatever directions you speak of. I hope it made your day to be a dick for absolutely no reason. Please, for the love, grow the hell up. Immaturity is ugly on you.
@@bksaun Mine doesn't have the directions on the lid of the stove. Not all of them do. 🤫
Jennifer F my apologies, I should have said stamped instead of print, I think everyone took it wrong. seems everyone is looking to jump down someone’s throat at every chance. My point was if they stamped instructions instead of stickers that wear away , the instructions would be permanent. Guess I didn’t make myself very clear. But you sure did.
I have an off grid cabin. I'm also at 6,100 ft elevation. Propane is not as effective at this altitude, therefore I use the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. I have no problems boiling water with the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove.
On propane, I must use a lid to get water to boil.
So, I converted over to the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove.
From a survival point of view, my opinion is propane will not be existent b4 gasoline runs out at the pump.
It also used to be that Crown white gas, was half the price of Coleman white gas. Suddenly, Crown fuel, is the same price as Coleman fuel, now. So, we found a bunch (5)of new 424 generators at Habitat for Humanity and jumped on them. The price was right! Picked up one new pump assembly and 2 new Coleman rubber pumps and the clips.
Just got a 425b from offer up for $15. It doesnt have a latch it has bars on the side the slide over the whole unit. Im wondering when it was made. Just needs a new filler cap but i used one from my pocket stove and works perfect.
According to a coleman website my model was from 1954-1962, what a steal. New cap was $12 online and im still only in about $27!
There is a small vent hole in the middle of the pump knob. If you un-cover it on the out stroke and cover it on the compression stroke, you will likely not have that kind of yellow flame ups and re-pumping is usually not needed. Also, when initially filling the tank, leave about 20% for air to compress. This applies to all other Coleman liquid fuel stoves.
Get propane conversion for the Coleman White Gas stove and have the best of both worlds with the exception of the spark ignition. My Coleman White Gas stove is the model 425C.
I have a hardly-used 425F that was given to me that I absolutely love. Now I'm getting a propane conversion generator, a griddle, and maybe an oven and I'm set! A carry/storage bag to put it all in would be nice! Anyone have a recommendation for that? Great video! I've subbed your channel. Cheers - Luther
Thank you guy! Good job.
I paid $5 for a 1979 model 425E Coleman at a neighbor's moving sale about 8 years ago. Best $5 ever!
Deals like that are hard to come by well worth it though
My 425E is from 1970, haven’t done anything to it, and it works perfectly. I highly recommend white gas if possible.
Great video! Thanks for the info!
An up date. I just got a brand new Colman stove new in the box . Never used bate on it is 1953 . Got it for 20 buck at a flee market in New Hampshire. I now have 5 stoves and 8 lanterns all work mint and like new . Deals are out there , you just have to look . Can you make a survival video with the stove in the rain or snow or high winds that would be cool . Keep up the good work
Im 52 years old and I still remember being on then McKenzie river Around fort Simpson N.W.T. back in the seventies in my parents river boat which was totally enclosed and we used to go way up river every weekend in the summer and then we would just drift back to Simpson all weekend and dad had canoes and a small ski boat type boat we would tow for my older brothers and sisters to water ski behind and mom had two of those in the boat and that's how she cooked for us! It was a different life back then before television was brought into the community I'll say this television wrecked everything! Two years after television we pretty much stopped doing that!
Thank you for that glimpse back in time. It's before my time. I grew up in the USA in the 1970's and always had a TV, but also played outside until dark every day. I hope our children will know good days like that...
Great job on the video . I would include the set up time to boil to be fair. I'm never in that big of a hurry to cook. That is part of the fun of camping.
Propane every day of the week...mind you, I love my old Peak 1, but for a typical camping weekend, my propane stoves (a two-burner Century Primus and a single-burner Coleman) start easy and are low on drama. If you have a 20-pound cylinder for your gas grill at home, you can refill the spent 1-pound cylinders with an adaptor.