it's a pain to play, when he gets the melody, he sings to high to play it comfortably, also thats what I like about his voice, its like mine, only if I could sing a bit higher, because I got the low ground covered but after I became a bass I couldn't be hired as a singer anymore because I dont have the bariton part of most music in my full voice, but I can at least do alto voices and bass II :L
Eredaane I'm so confused. You say you can't hit baritone notes because your voice doesn't go high enough, but then you later say you can hit alto. Alto is higher than baritone. It goes bass, baritone, tenor, alto, mezzo soprano, then soprano. So how are you hitting an alto when you supposedly can't hit a baritone or tenor.
I really like this but i think the horn part should be written as a trombone part like later on because of the range. Or at least make it up the octave
can i have a copy of each instrument like if i was gonna play with my friends. i need each instrument to have their own paper. i dont know to word it. but i looked in the description and the musecore is not working due to copyright is there any other way i could get them?
Sear Donahue lmao idk what to tell you. It's the Pentatonix version literally just transcribed for brass. But also, 5 minutes isn't very long at all for a single piece of music when so many pieces are well over 15 minutes.
Precisly, which instruments are them? cause it' s not written and I don' t know very much about the brass family. Are them two trumpets in Bb, a horn in f, a tuba and a basso tuba (both in c)?
The very first note of the entire piece, is wrong. The beginning of each phrase, in the "original" and in the pentatonix arrangement (I checked just to make sure) is the third to the fifth, in this case the first note of each phrase at least for the first few measures should be a concert D and you start each phrase with an Eb.
This arrangement has about 47 things wrong with it. The lyrics literally say "It goes like this, the fourth..." and the trumpet part doesn't follow the chord change to the 4.
I play in an orchestra, so I might be a little confused. Do the different instruments read the same clef differently? I was noticing A Bb pairings as well as D Eb pairings using classical reading. And why do the parts have different key signatures? Accidentals exist and it makes for a neater score
Yes, each instrument is in a different key, trumpet is in Bb, french horn is in F, and all of the low brass are in concert pitch. The different key signatures are a result of that, since the trumpet is is Bb there are no extra flats needed, since horn is in F you only have to add 1 flat since the key of F only has 1 flat. Trumpets and horn both read treble clef the same as in E G B D F but a D on trumpet is different than a concert D since the instruments are pitched differently. I could probably explain this better or with more detail if you need but this is the shortest and most basic way I could explain.
Yes. Trumpets play in the key of Bb, whereas horns play in the key of F. A C to a trumpet player is an F to a horn player and vice versa. If this were in a concert pitch format, there would be accidentals and a consistent key signature.
The concert key is B flat, so the low brass key signatures have two flats. Horn adds one sharp, or takes away one flat, so they’re reading in F (a perfect fifth up from concert B flat Major). B flat Trumpets add two sharps or take away two flats, so they read in C major (a major second above B flat) but it all is heard as B flat
@Fabian Weinbauer you could transpose, the music is there, just put on individual parts. Credit them, and throw it out after you're done with it, cause copyright.
At first glance I can say that this is written in a very strange way. Easy rhythm is written unnecessary hard. You lose the feeling of the beat. A musician does not like it written like this.
Nick Roels That's more a "rule" for part writing in the baroque and classical era, and even those guys broke it a ton. Parallel fifths have a use nowadays in "pop" harmony, and since this is a nearly direct transcription of what Pentatonix sings, it's pretty allowable. You could shift things around to make the writing "correct" but it wouldn't really have the same feel, ya know?
Well yeah people use it nowadays but then again nowadays people use the same four chords. If its a direct transcription of what they are singing then definitely no harm done to the arranger of this brass piece. But pentatonix should know better than to be using fifths between two voices. My point is that just because it's used nowadays doesn't mean it's musically talented or interesting to the well-trained ear. It just ends up sounding like a medieval something or other.
Yes, this is an arrangement not a composition. In the pentatonix, like most popular music parallel 5th's are being used everywhere because its easy and sounds "nice". However the tuba part is way to high at the end. Playing it down the octave will create a darker fuller sound with better balance.
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Great arrangement!!! KEEP UP THE INCREDIBLE WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Man this was so good!!
Hi, would you allow me to record this myself?
Trent Hamilton I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS ON YOUR CHANNEL
Trent, you really should do this on your channel. BTW I loved your April fools day video! I hope you play this in a 'modern group!'
It's a yes from me
where is the recording?
Trent PLEASE DO THIS
The French Horn deserved that solo
I’m pretty sur the bottom is tuba(I’ve played it) and the second to bottom is either trombone or uphonium(played both)
The first note, a concert Eb, should be a D. As should pretty much all the Eb's in the melody on the first page.
Shut up
@@brycesusong6307 He's right though, the concert Eb's sound completely wrong at the beginning.
@@peterphann also it’s an Ab not a Eb
@@sethmgadisonYT Bb on French Horn = Concert Eb, an Ab isn’t even in the key signature regardless
@@peterphann oh lol I thought it was trumpet my bad I haven’t studied music in 6 months lol 😂
My question is why does the tuba part not have the melody whenever Avi does
Jasik Lands Because when he has the melody he sounds more of a baritone than a bass
Brandon Hall I didn't even think of that, but makes sense
Brandon Hall technically you could still have that in the tuba
it's a pain to play, when he gets the melody, he sings to high to play it comfortably, also thats what I like about his voice, its like mine, only if I could sing a bit higher, because I got the low ground covered but after I became a bass I couldn't be hired as a singer anymore because I dont have the bariton part of most music in my full voice, but I can at least do alto voices and bass II :L
Eredaane I'm so confused. You say you can't hit baritone notes because your voice doesn't go high enough, but then you later say you can hit alto. Alto is higher than baritone. It goes bass, baritone, tenor, alto, mezzo soprano, then soprano. So how are you hitting an alto when you supposedly can't hit a baritone or tenor.
this sounds amazing! I was gonna print the score to maybe perform it at my school only to find its been taken down :'(
That literally sounded like the actual pentatonixs
Trop classique my man
Great!
I want 2 play this now I'm a trumpet and my friend also plays trumpet
1st Row: Mitch
2nd Row: Kirstin
3rd Row: Scott
4th Row: Avi
5th Row: Kevin
Jack Avery's Girl [xXSarahSingsXx] Avi is the bass he's the lowest
No 1st row is kristin 🙄
Who doesn’t just love Leonard Cohen
I really like this but i think the horn part should be written as a trombone part like later on because of the range. Or at least make it up the octave
The player could change it to their range. It’s not hard to play that low.
Good.
I was wondering If by chance l could get the sheet music for this (the link does not work)
what instrument was playing the middle measure, cuz i played on a french horn in f and it sounded really good
Epimetran It is a french horn part
Duh
At first I thought the middle part was a baritone, until it went into the higher parts, baritone and horn in f sound very similar tho
@@williamlejeune8611 Baritones play in bass clef. French horns play in both treble and bass clef but mostly treble
@@rus-poo here in germany our baritones play in treble and it is so hard to find good sheet music for that. can someone help me?
can i have a copy of each instrument like if i was gonna play with my friends. i need each instrument to have their own paper. i dont know to word it. but i looked in the description and the musecore is not working due to copyright is there any other way i could get them?
Dlaczego trzeci głos jest z bemolem? Na jakie instrumenty to jest rozpisanie?
Its not working on muscore
Can I record this myself? I've tried arranging something of my own but I can't seem to do it...
Manda o link pra mim baixar?
and the baritone?
The link to the sheet music says it is no longer available..............................
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Two trumpets, a euphonium, a trombone, and a tuba. Am I correct?😂 that's just what I think anyway
Saryna Thacker the middle isn't a euphonium, it's a french horn. Otherwise, I think you're right
Max Behymer woah that is a LOW French horn. Thank you!
Saryna Thacker What is i told you they can go almost 2 octaves lower than the lowest note in this arragement
but the tuba doesnt feel that well in the higher parts xD rather sing that
my guy, french horn can be written in bass clef
Hey this is really good and I have fun fingering the trumpet part but no one wants to play for 5 minutes for one song
Sear Donahue lmao idk what to tell you. It's the Pentatonix version literally just transcribed for brass. But also, 5 minutes isn't very long at all for a single piece of music when so many pieces are well over 15 minutes.
The link led to a blank page. Is there another way to get this arrangement? Thanks.
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is the bottom player a tuba or baritone? sorry, idk it sounds kinda like a baritone or euphonium but im just not sure.
Its a tuba part
Tubruh thank you😊
Kaity Camp No problem!
In Musescore (the Scorewritingprogramm the arrangement is written) a Euphonium sounds identical like a tuba
Yeah I hate that, because when I transcribe stuff I just leave out the euphonium and just use baritone and tuba.
Does anyone know how to get the sheet music
Look off the screen. The link doesnt work anymore
Precisly, which instruments are them? cause it' s not written and I don' t know very much about the brass family.
Are them two trumpets in Bb, a horn in f, a tuba and a basso tuba (both in c)?
2 trumpets in Bb-top 2 lines. 3rd line-french horn. Then trombone/euphonium. And finally tuba.
@@timlawrence7100 thanks
@@benedettabreggion8737 no problem, the trombone and euphoneium are in C
The very first note of the entire piece, is wrong. The beginning of each phrase, in the "original" and in the pentatonix arrangement (I checked just to make sure) is the third to the fifth, in this case the first note of each phrase at least for the first few measures should be a concert D and you start each phrase with an Eb.
This arrangement has about 47 things wrong with it. The lyrics literally say "It goes like this, the fourth..." and the trumpet part doesn't follow the chord change to the 4.
I play in an orchestra, so I might be a little confused. Do the different instruments read the same clef differently? I was noticing A Bb pairings as well as D Eb pairings using classical reading. And why do the parts have different key signatures? Accidentals exist and it makes for a neater score
Yes, each instrument is in a different key, trumpet is in Bb, french horn is in F, and all of the low brass are in concert pitch. The different key signatures are a result of that, since the trumpet is is Bb there are no extra flats needed, since horn is in F you only have to add 1 flat since the key of F only has 1 flat.
Trumpets and horn both read treble clef the same as in E G B D F but a D on trumpet is different than a concert D since the instruments are pitched differently. I could probably explain this better or with more detail if you need but this is the shortest and most basic way I could explain.
It’s actually a computer making this not an actual instrument which I’m pretty sure u already know
Julius Trenkler band instruments are in a different pitch. The name of their pitch is determined by what their C is called in concert pitch
Yes. Trumpets play in the key of Bb, whereas horns play in the key of F. A C to a trumpet player is an F to a horn player and vice versa. If this were in a concert pitch format, there would be accidentals and a consistent key signature.
The concert key is B flat, so the low brass key signatures have two flats. Horn adds one sharp, or takes away one flat, so they’re reading in F (a perfect fifth up from concert B flat Major). B flat Trumpets add two sharps or take away two flats, so they read in C major (a major second above B flat)
but it all is heard as B flat
@Jasmine McKnight is there any way to get the sheet music?
@Fabian Weinbauer you could transpose, the music is there, just put on individual parts. Credit them, and throw it out after you're done with it, cause copyright.
musescore.com/user/5864841/scores/4832987
Where’s the tuba? He’s basically piano the entire time
Is there anyway to get the parts? the link isn't working. This is an amazing arrangement.
Why do you got Gb instead of F# for the cadence bro 😂😂😂
Matt Bahr they are the same exact thing
Bands Nerdiness Music theory wise no. Changes the chord even of the sound doesn't change.
The link no longer works but I would like the parts. Is it possible to get them?
Yes, could I also get the full score, I want to perform this in a group soon.
Hi,
Are the parts available for this piece at all? Xx
musescore.com/user/5864841/scores/4832987
Nope
i was disappointed that this wasnt Handels messiah
*sad wah*
WOW!!! Thank you for that musical orgasm! Just Awesome *-*
no
What about woodwinds or saxophones :(
I thought I would sound best as a brass quintet instead. also there's only 5 parts and I don't want too much doubling.
“brass quintet”
At first glance I can say that this is written in a very strange way. Easy rhythm is written unnecessary hard. You lose the feeling of the beat. A musician does not like it written like this.
You're not supposed to have parallel fifths like you do between the trumpets :///
Nick Roels That's more a "rule" for part writing in the baroque and classical era, and even those guys broke it a ton.
Parallel fifths have a use nowadays in "pop" harmony, and since this is a nearly direct transcription of what Pentatonix sings, it's pretty allowable. You could shift things around to make the writing "correct" but it wouldn't really have the same feel, ya know?
Well yeah people use it nowadays but then again nowadays people use the same four chords. If its a direct transcription of what they are singing then definitely no harm done to the arranger of this brass piece. But pentatonix should know better than to be using fifths between two voices.
My point is that just because it's used nowadays doesn't mean it's musically talented or interesting to the well-trained ear. It just ends up sounding like a medieval something or other.
Nick Roels well that's more of a rule for classical music and part writing. those rules have pretty much been abandoned with the new music.
Yes, this is an arrangement not a composition. In the pentatonix, like most popular music parallel 5th's are being used everywhere because its easy and sounds "nice". However the tuba part is way to high at the end. Playing it down the octave will create a darker fuller sound with better balance.
Sounds wierd
It was not made by that shitty covering band pentanox
Stephanie Clancy no shit. That’s why it says “Arranged by Pentatonix”. Read.
The link no longer works is there somewhere I can find this arrangement?
I’m trying to print this for my quintet but the link doesn’t work. Is there any other way to get this piece