I have been surfing for 30 years, short bords, longboards and about 7 years ago I decided to try SUP, for me, personal opinion it’s hard to beat the feeling of watching the waves come in from a standing position, the take off and gliding on the wave is unbelievable. I can’t get enough of it, and I don’t care what other surfers think about SUP, apply etiquette and that’s it, not a big deal, just fools worry about it so who cares about them anyway.
Yeah, as a surfer, I don't mind SUPs if they have etiquette. Not the 80's competition rules etiquette but taking turns. I have seen good SUPs let go of 10 set waves to make sure other guys are on them. And because of their reach, speed, and visibility, the good ones tend to make their way to the ones that surfers can't get. Bomb sets, wide sets, etc. Good on ya, haters will always be haters.
Thanks for sharing it even though you find it embarrassing, it's very helpful and encouraging for anyone else learning and it looks like you had a great time! 🤙🏼🏄🏻♂️
haha .. addicted prone surfer here BUT realized i could double time in water and riding on SMALL days with SUP .. the fitness benefits and new challenge make it worth it .. besides all the guys and gals in the line up are my friends .. no surfers glaring ( Florida - I stay far, let waves go to prone surfers and exercise caution and observe etiquette ).
Great video!!! I am a sup surfer who is learning to prone surf. My sup board is a 7'2" 104lts. You make prone look easy. Better to paddle with a staggered stance to catch a wave!
Haha. I’m so glad you posted this. I had the exact same experience last week! I’ve been surfing for 35 years and single-paddle canoeing for 45 years. I thought it would be easy. 9’4” X 33” board. 175 liters. I could barely stand. Did not catch a single wave. Totally deflating!! I feel so much better now! Thanks.
so weird that certain things don't translate even though they seem so similar. I have put it behind me and at least for now, I'll stick to shortboarding and only SUP in the harbor. :)
Hey @thomye it’s a super quick learning curve, worth sticking with for those rippy days when you feel like you’re continually paddling against the rip! Learning to read the correct take off spot will come with time… biggest thing I noticed is that you’re trying to turn a fuck off massive board from the middle… it’s not going to happen. You have to treat a board that size as you would a long board and move your feet and get over the fins, use the paddle for bracing at all times always just skimming the water and you’ll soon learn to use it to pivot round and help you turn. You will be surprised how quickly you and your fitness will improve. I don’t sup surf very often now but on it’s day it’s unbeatable. Good luck!
This was a great video dude! I haven’t SUP surfed in a while but 2 things comes to mind. 1, there are tricks to paddle straighter which each stroke. This can be practiced on flat water and it’s easy to google. Even if you never SUP in waves again, it’s worth a look. 2, and this is something I’ve realized long boarding. These big boards can get a really high top speed, which is why you can catch such small waves with them. But they need A LOT more time to reach that speed than a short board. As such? You need to start paddling much sooner than you’re used to. And you start with long calm strokes, just to build the speed. Again, try it on flat water. I bet you’d beat any longboard in a race, with your short board, if the race is only a few meters. Cause acceleration is so much better. But top speed comes later and then the short board are in the metaphorical rear view mirror. Just my two cents. Still super happy you published this video! Try and surf a long board first. If you don’t have access to one, let me know next time you’re in NorCal, we can meet up and I’ll lend you mine. I’ve also got a solo shot (heard yours broke) that we can use 😉
Thanks for the fun video -- it's interesting to see it from the other side. I've been stand up paddling for about 5 years now and took an inflatable to Maui last summer to try & learn to surf the small stuff for a couple of weeks (1-4 footers). I had WAY more success catching waves than any of the surfers in that spot (it's a beginner break), and was able to start catching waves regularly after the 3rd or 4th nose dive. One day I caught close to 50 waves without even getting wet, and I'm not exaggerating, but I was also just riding them pretty much straight in or at a slight angle, not doing bottom turns or anything fancy. I think my experience as a paddler trying to surf a SUP was more useful than your experience as a surfer, at least for the first day, but I have a long ways to go to learn how to keep my board near the peak like you're doing later in the video.
surfing on an inflatable sounds hard, even harder than my first day. The rails on an inflatable is so fat, I would think it would push water. fun nonetheless. :) I'll have to give it another go next time my buddy comes into town.
@@ThomyeSurfs Even though I have surfed both hard & inflatable SUPs, I still have no idea how hard it is to surf an inflatable vs a hard board. I had a really easy time on the inflatable and I'm a total beginner surfer, but I was also on small and predictable waves, very much unlike the chaotic mess on the Oregon coast that I've been trying to ride on my 10' hard surf SUP. I did have trouble with the speed & size of bigger waves, but I couldn't tell how much of that was me and how much was the inflatable just not being fast enough. I think it'd be really interesting to hear from someone who has tried regular surfing, SUP surfing and inflatable surfing in the same conditions. The rails don't have any bite to them, that's true, but as a beginner I found that helpful because when the wave hits you can just jump back to the tail and hang on. You don't have to be particularly accurate with your steering at that point like you do with a hard board. But when trying to go down the line those rails can get sucked into the wave, so that's a tradeoff.
This is just what I needed. I've been thinking of switching to SUP to increase my wave count and wondered how long it would take to get comfortable. The answer seems to be to be that the transition is not easy! I wonder if you would have had more success on a bigger board? I'll definitely go for a big board to begin with after seeing this.
With you on this. I can surf a longboard in most conditions but my doc said my shoulders can’t survive prone paddling anymore and suggested paddle boarding. Looks easy but no chance. It’s like totally relearning to surf. Feels so unnatural. Cheers
yeah, just gauging the wave was difficult. you are at such an elevated angle that the waves look so different from my 35 years of surfing. Still fun. I'll stick to the harbor. LOL
Well you just shattered my dreams of sup surfing 😬 😭😆. Been surfing shortboard for a while and just recently purchased a 10'6"x32 sup😬. How big were those boards you were on?
the one I'm on is 8' something. Not exactly sure but I know it is under 9. The one my buddy is one is about 10.5' The one I'm on is pretty small especially for a first go.
@@ThomyeSurfs Ah I see, thanks. I hear the key is to do a lot of flat water practice before entering the waves.. so maybe it'll work out for me if I follow that. I am pretty good at paddling in a straight line, so I've got that going for me! 😄
Great video. Tips if interested in future. Shorten your paddle to nearly your height as your centre of gravity will lower on take off and less prone to tangling in leash and hitting board when carving. Off set your stance ( leading foot forward )a little and try to paddle and time to catch the wave as you are turning into it at slight angle, you will have a longer paddle stroke as your shoulders are opened up and easy to just move your foot to surfing stance. Once you figure it out if still interested try a narrow board as it will be a lot more fun (maybe around 26" wide) or something around 110% of your body weight 70kg = 77litres or lower. It will never replace a surfboard but can be fun in sharky area to still enjoy a wave. 😎
thanks. that's good stuff. 26" sounds crazy. but you are right, i had a major issue with hitting the board. I felt like i had to swing over the rail and paddle under the board to go straighter, which put me out of balance. for sure it will never replace surfing. I had fun though and can see how on certain days, at certain breaks (no surfers), this would be a good choice. what about length of board, does that matter? this one looks about 8 1/2' long. wondering if a narrower longer one is better.
Hey I just tripped over your vid. I've not yet tried a sup but am a long time surfer. You did fine, i would say a) you were getting short rides, and would benefit from longer rides to get the feel, b) there was some backwash c) when you stopped trying, analysing whatever, you were doing "lucky" things bec your mind body had a basic knowledge. More time and experience would get you there.
🤣😂. It’s such a good workout. I jumped on an SUP before I started surfing because I felt safer not having my body in the water..was able to paddle next to humpback whales. Best experience ever!! I might have to pick it up again.
my buddy and i went out around noon to avoid crowds and not piss anyone off. we also went to a beach where there were little to no surfers. at the beaches i surf, the SUP guys are pretty cool. they don't wave hog. they back off waves way more than they have to. But i'll stick to surfing. I need to get that air reverse before I die. haha
Paddling out tandem and splitting a surfer. Quite poor surf sense. If it was me surfing, I would be looking for every opportunity to compete with them SUPers for waves. Who knows, maybe they’re buddies, I certainly hope so.
At the start of the video, your feet looked too far apart. Then you seemed to get the hang of it later on. Also, some SUP riders (minority) switch to surf stance after feeling the board kick forward. If you change just before the kick, you lose momentum and may fall off the back. The other thing is experience on the water. It is pretty hard to just start SUP surfing. In my case, I did three years of flatwater SUP in the sea (all seasons) for exercise and relaxation before switching to surfing. That gives people knowledge of their board and how it reacts in certain wave forms and heights, wind and paddling out.
NO BROTHER!!!!!! DONT'T DO IT!!!! SUP are the most hated people in australia when it comes to water sports, even hated by longboard riders biggest deeks in the water dropping in every one, that says a lot 🤷🏻♂️ At least longboarders know how we feels when shortboarders we get dropped in 😏😜😝😅🤷🏻♂️ Sorry for my raw honesty 🙏🏼😌
I have been surfing for 30 years, short bords, longboards and about 7 years ago I decided to try SUP, for me, personal opinion it’s hard to beat the feeling of watching the waves come in from a standing position, the take off and gliding on the wave is unbelievable. I can’t get enough of it, and I don’t care what other surfers think about SUP, apply etiquette and that’s it, not a big deal, just fools worry about it so who cares about them anyway.
Yeah, as a surfer, I don't mind SUPs if they have etiquette. Not the 80's competition rules etiquette but taking turns. I have seen good SUPs let go of 10 set waves to make sure other guys are on them. And because of their reach, speed, and visibility, the good ones tend to make their way to the ones that surfers can't get. Bomb sets, wide sets, etc. Good on ya, haters will always be haters.
@@ThomyeSurfs spot on
Thanks for sharing it even though you find it embarrassing, it's very helpful and encouraging for anyone else learning and it looks like you had a great time! 🤙🏼🏄🏻♂️
Nooo, dont join the dark side..) This one is done in great spirits man
I'm with you 💯 👍🏼
You are absolutely right 🙏🏼😌
@@migsy3302 Haha..I expect alot of backlash from my comment..I know he,s not a proper SUP,er..because he can take a joke..)
haha .. addicted prone surfer here BUT realized i could double time in water and riding on SMALL days with SUP .. the fitness benefits and new challenge make it worth it .. besides all the guys and gals in the line up are my friends .. no surfers glaring ( Florida - I stay far, let waves go to prone surfers and exercise caution and observe etiquette ).
Great video!!! I am a sup surfer who is learning to prone surf. My sup board is a 7'2" 104lts. You make prone look easy.
Better to paddle with a staggered stance to catch a wave!
Haha. I’m so glad you posted this. I had the exact same experience last week! I’ve been surfing for 35 years and single-paddle canoeing for 45 years. I thought it would be easy. 9’4” X 33” board. 175 liters. I could barely stand. Did not catch a single wave. Totally deflating!! I feel so much better now! Thanks.
so weird that certain things don't translate even though they seem so similar. I have put it behind me and at least for now, I'll stick to shortboarding and only SUP in the harbor. :)
First time sup.. You did well mate. Not as easy as it looks, and takes water time to feel comfortable and in control. Well done in my opinion.
Hey @thomye it’s a super quick learning curve, worth sticking with for those rippy days when you feel like you’re continually paddling against the rip! Learning to read the correct take off spot will come with time… biggest thing I noticed is that you’re trying to turn a fuck off massive board from the middle… it’s not going to happen. You have to treat a board that size as you would a long board and move your feet and get over the fins, use the paddle for bracing at all times always just skimming the water and you’ll soon learn to use it to pivot round and help you turn. You will be surprised how quickly you and your fitness will improve. I don’t sup surf very often now but on it’s day it’s unbeatable. Good luck!
Haha this was very entertaining to watch. Thanks for putting yourself out there. It looks so hard
Great video! Thank you for showing the real and raw!!!
This was a great video dude! I haven’t SUP surfed in a while but 2 things comes to mind.
1, there are tricks to paddle straighter which each stroke. This can be practiced on flat water and it’s easy to google. Even if you never SUP in waves again, it’s worth a look.
2, and this is something I’ve realized long boarding. These big boards can get a really high top speed, which is why you can catch such small waves with them. But they need A LOT more time to reach that speed than a short board. As such? You need to start paddling much sooner than you’re used to. And you start with long calm strokes, just to build the speed. Again, try it on flat water. I bet you’d beat any longboard in a race, with your short board, if the race is only a few meters. Cause acceleration is so much better. But top speed comes later and then the short board are in the metaphorical rear view mirror. Just my two cents. Still super happy you published this video! Try and surf a long board first. If you don’t have access to one, let me know next time you’re in NorCal, we can meet up and I’ll lend you mine. I’ve also got a solo shot (heard yours broke) that we can use 😉
Wicked man 🤙🏽
Thanks for the fun video -- it's interesting to see it from the other side. I've been stand up paddling for about 5 years now and took an inflatable to Maui last summer to try & learn to surf the small stuff for a couple of weeks (1-4 footers). I had WAY more success catching waves than any of the surfers in that spot (it's a beginner break), and was able to start catching waves regularly after the 3rd or 4th nose dive. One day I caught close to 50 waves without even getting wet, and I'm not exaggerating, but I was also just riding them pretty much straight in or at a slight angle, not doing bottom turns or anything fancy.
I think my experience as a paddler trying to surf a SUP was more useful than your experience as a surfer, at least for the first day, but I have a long ways to go to learn how to keep my board near the peak like you're doing later in the video.
surfing on an inflatable sounds hard, even harder than my first day. The rails on an inflatable is so fat, I would think it would push water. fun nonetheless. :) I'll have to give it another go next time my buddy comes into town.
@@ThomyeSurfs Even though I have surfed both hard & inflatable SUPs, I still have no idea how hard it is to surf an inflatable vs a hard board. I had a really easy time on the inflatable and I'm a total beginner surfer, but I was also on small and predictable waves, very much unlike the chaotic mess on the Oregon coast that I've been trying to ride on my 10' hard surf SUP. I did have trouble with the speed & size of bigger waves, but I couldn't tell how much of that was me and how much was the inflatable just not being fast enough. I think it'd be really interesting to hear from someone who has tried regular surfing, SUP surfing and inflatable surfing in the same conditions. The rails don't have any bite to them, that's true, but as a beginner I found that helpful because when the wave hits you can just jump back to the tail and hang on. You don't have to be particularly accurate with your steering at that point like you do with a hard board. But when trying to go down the line those rails can get sucked into the wave, so that's a tradeoff.
This is just what I needed. I've been thinking of switching to SUP to increase my wave count and wondered how long it would take to get comfortable. The answer seems to be to be that the transition is not easy! I wonder if you would have had more success on a bigger board? I'll definitely go for a big board to begin with after seeing this.
Practice practice....lot of cardio...you guy's are great !!!
With you on this. I can surf a longboard in most conditions but my doc said my shoulders can’t survive prone paddling anymore and suggested paddle boarding. Looks easy but no chance. It’s like totally relearning to surf. Feels so unnatural. Cheers
yeah, just gauging the wave was difficult. you are at such an elevated angle that the waves look so different from my 35 years of surfing. Still fun. I'll stick to the harbor. LOL
Well you just shattered my dreams of sup surfing 😬 😭😆. Been surfing shortboard for a while and just recently purchased a 10'6"x32 sup😬. How big were those boards you were on?
the one I'm on is 8' something. Not exactly sure but I know it is under 9. The one my buddy is one is about 10.5' The one I'm on is pretty small especially for a first go.
@@ThomyeSurfs Ah I see, thanks. I hear the key is to do a lot of flat water practice before entering the waves.. so maybe it'll work out for me if I follow that. I am pretty good at paddling in a straight line, so I've got that going for me! 😄
Great video.
Tips if interested in future.
Shorten your paddle to nearly your height as your centre of gravity will lower on take off and less prone to tangling in leash and hitting board when carving.
Off set your stance ( leading foot forward )a little and try to paddle and time to catch the wave as you are turning into it at slight angle, you will have a longer paddle stroke as your shoulders are opened up and easy to just move your foot to surfing stance.
Once you figure it out if still interested try a narrow board as it will be a lot more fun (maybe around 26" wide) or something around 110% of your body weight 70kg = 77litres or lower.
It will never replace a surfboard but can be fun in sharky area to still enjoy a wave. 😎
thanks. that's good stuff. 26" sounds crazy. but you are right, i had a major issue with hitting the board. I felt like i had to swing over the rail and paddle under the board to go straighter, which put me out of balance.
for sure it will never replace surfing. I had fun though and can see how on certain days, at certain breaks (no surfers), this would be a good choice.
what about length of board, does that matter? this one looks about 8 1/2' long. wondering if a narrower longer one is better.
If I never wanted to try it I definitely never want to try it now
LOL... 🤣
Hey I just tripped over your vid. I've not yet tried a sup but am a long time surfer. You did fine, i would say a) you were getting short rides, and would benefit from longer rides to get the feel, b) there was some backwash c) when you stopped trying, analysing whatever, you were doing "lucky" things bec your mind body had a basic knowledge. More time and experience would get you there.
🤣😂. It’s such a good workout. I jumped on an SUP before I started surfing because I felt safer not having my body in the water..was able to paddle next to humpback whales. Best experience ever!! I might have to pick it up again.
my buddy and i went out around noon to avoid crowds and not piss anyone off. we also went to a beach where there were little to no surfers.
at the beaches i surf, the SUP guys are pretty cool. they don't wave hog. they back off waves way more than they have to. But i'll stick to surfing. I need to get that air reverse before I die. haha
Paddling out tandem and splitting a surfer. Quite poor surf sense. If it was me surfing, I would be looking for every opportunity to compete with them SUPers for waves. Who knows, maybe they’re buddies, I certainly hope so.
At the start of the video, your feet looked too far apart. Then you seemed to get the hang of it later on. Also, some SUP riders (minority) switch to surf stance after feeling the board kick forward. If you change just before the kick, you lose momentum and may fall off the back. The other thing is experience on the water. It is pretty hard to just start SUP surfing. In my case, I did three years of flatwater SUP in the sea (all seasons) for exercise and relaxation before switching to surfing. That gives people knowledge of their board and how it reacts in certain wave forms and heights, wind and paddling out.
😂😂😂😂 so good
you mean, so bad... :) LOL
NO BROTHER!!!!!!
DONT'T DO IT!!!!
SUP are the most hated people in australia when it comes to water sports, even hated by longboard riders biggest deeks in the water dropping in every one, that says a lot 🤷🏻♂️
At least longboarders know how we feels when shortboarders we get dropped in 😏😜😝😅🤷🏻♂️
Sorry for my raw honesty 🙏🏼😌
It was for comic relief so as long as you got a good laugh it was worth it.
@@ThomyeSurfs bro I got so scared 😱 💩🤦🏻♂️😅
@@migsy3302 yeah, nothing could replace surfing. 😁
Should have used the Benny Hill theme song!
More like Dark Vader theme 😒
I was going to. But I was afraid it was license. Lol.
@@migsy3302 I think we dated ourselves. LOL
Please don't join the SUPS man! Stay cool! haha