From my experience, a Diesel engine may have more torque and horsepower and diesel also may burn slower than gas. The cons of a diesel is, the maintenance cost is extremely higher than a gas engine and is harder to find a certified diesel mechanic on the fly. The gas engine is less cost on maintenance and is easier to find a mechanic to fix a gas engine on the fly. Secondly, it’s easier to find a gas station that have gas when gas fuel is needed when you are in some remote rural area. Not all gas stations have diesel available. Sometimes you have to drive moles to get to a station that actually have diesel. Now, depending on the weight of the load and the size of the trailer, you can use a gas truck and it’s not much of a hassle. I pull my RV travel trailer across country with a gas engine and I do just find. Really it’s not much of a difference than using a Diesel engine when the trailer is not too long and doesn’t weigh a whole lot. But a Diesel engine is extremely costly when it’s time for repairs and finding a certified diesel mechanic is not easy as a mechanic who can find a gas engine. It all depends on you and how you maximize the use of your gas truck.
I was think the same my dad truck is 2014 GMC Sierra and it 4x4 and the max it can haul is 12k or just a lil more it’s makes 400ish hp just bc of the performance intake but I was think like you said can you just add more to the engine to use for more torque and hp like you can add a turbo only for the use of hauling and stuff like that and add other stuff like injections and type mods so you can maximize the hp and torque maybe pull more up to 20k ish
@@oscarderma2622 nope .. 2500 HD can only do so much weight ...more power n torque will help move that 12k better maybe gain in mpg to Since the engine technically isn't working as hard to move 12k.
Oddly pulling 7500 pounds my 2016 F250 super duty powerstroke averaged about 11.7 mpg going from Nappanee Indiana to Jerome Idaho my brother was following in our 2021 GMC Sierra denali 1500 4x4 with the 6.2 and tow package averaged 11 mpg he was behind me from point a to b ...so naw gas is actually better if you like saving money
I know some hot shots that work around the oil fields in West Texas running v8 gas rigs. Running 454 and 460 v8s. They have 4:10 rear ends working 5spd trans, with 2spd splitter. 9 to 10 mpg. Most diesel engines pulling in the oilfields get 5- 6 mpg.
As someone with a 460 V8 gasser with a 5 spd that gets 10 mpg empty, I can't help but feel like you got the mpg numbers for the gas and diesel trucks backwards lol
@@joshuacrooker6489 As someone with a 2021 GMC Sierra 1500 with 6.2 v8 engine in it with the 10 speed auto 7800 pound 32 ft camper I get 13mpg to 14 mpg @65mph but the payment was 800 a month
@@loaded.357 You're a GM guy, those 6.0 vortex's can be tuned. A guy who worked with me had a 13k welding rig he had a 6.0 and was getting 14-16mpg. Never saw him tow a trailer but he never needed to, my truck always pulled the trailers. I currently own a 6.8 and past 30mph it pulls better than the 6.0 and 24v I've used. Some gasser setups actually put their power to the ground better than a diesel.
I own f250 with 6.2 Gas and well the bottom line is if you're pulling light or heavy it all comes down on how hard or ease you want to run that engine also gas filling with 40' or 30' its not an issue you are the driver and professional you know where or when to get in or not if experience driver you know a thing or two about a thing or two, but unexperience well talk for them selves everything is impossible I get in any gas station and fill up no matter the size of station you are there to fill up also there are gas tanks for up to 50 gallons that can be set in back and be connected straight to the truck tank by just flipping a switch for the remote areas just don't glorify diesel as the ultimate resort for small freight f250 is enough power to do any job and that includes Rams 2500 why not!??
If you just do regular LTL with the 40ft trailer just get a diesel, if your a real hotshot that does the need to be donne load and needs some getup and go trucks with a 16-20ft trailer, get whatever is easier to work on out in the field which would be a gas truck.
In my opinion it comes down to application and P & L. The simple response this person gave was fuel station issues. I would have to agree. Because at the end of the day one can hot shot with anything, it comes down to practicality of your equipment and profitability. Todays gasoline engines have become so advanced to the point that municipalities are ordering some of their equipment with the gas option a pose to diesel. avoiding aftertreatment maintenance cost plus the unnecessary down time it causes.
Bullshit when uship first started I was on that weeks after they started ... 2001 chevrolet silverado 1500hd with air bags 6.0 ...24 ft x104 in wide trailer...my overhead was 1500 a month legal completely I was making about 5000 a month profit and that's more then enough for me ... I've pulled with 2016 F250 powerstroke and a 2021 Sierra 2500 HD with the big gas engine yeah the diesel pulled better but they got the same fuel economy .. And guess what's cheaper gas diesel is a dollar more normally plus oil change is more on diesel n diesel fuel filters every 25k miles ... So what if you have to slow down a little bit climbing mountains with the the gas engine you still spend less in fuel n Maintenance cost overall ...plus purchasing a diesel is way more expensive nowadays thanks Brandon.
And you think because you have a Diesel your gonna get to pull more than the truck and trailer weight ratings because you have more torque available? GVWR is what you argue when talking about how much weight you can pull! I dont ever believe someone telling me you cant do this or you cant do that!
my 2023 chevy 3500 cab n chassis with 6.6 gas gets 14-17 mpg on the highway empty, pulling my tri axle trailer with my skidsteer on it gets 8mpg , trailer weighs 6000 skidsteer weighs 8200 for a total of 14200lbs
Modern gas engines are just as reliable, if not more reliable than modern diesel engines (because the emissions control devices shorten their lifespan), you're only trading maximum torque for some drop in fuel mileage and a high powerband, anybody who says diesel pickups get really good fuel mileage clearly have never driven one with a 4 ton empty trailer. a modern gas truck is just a pig compared to all three american manufactures, releasing diesels pushing 1,000 ft lbs of torque. if you're okay with having a truck thats slow on takeoff and drops mph on hills, and you can drive well enough or at least plan and navigate to get fuel... I mean really? If you can't put fuel in your truck should you really be driving for a living? IMO If you have a professional attitude, and some common sense, get what you're comfortable with, and be familiar with it, learn how it works, its strengths and weaknesses. take care of it and it will take care of you
Be careful on the at the pump def. Nozzles are usually dirty. You don't want to contaminate your def system. Very expensive. Great video though. I just subscribed!
Cause torque is too high in the rev mostly... Something like a 4.10 rear and tall first and second gear won't help either when you have to power 4k above idle
I can say a gas truck depends on the route youre on. With 7k pounds I get around 10mpg depending on the load. But that depends on the load and the area youre driving in. Real hilly youre gonna get 8mpg. Straight flatlands you might get 14mpg. Just depends. People dont like you I can tell you that.
@@All-Miles-Matter Oh ok. I thought the Ram had a V8 set up too. Idk. Maybe I was thinking of the older models. Enjoyed you on the Haven channel too BTW. Thx bro.
@@hypermotiontransportsllc.6595 No problem! Also, we choose rams (6 cylinder) because a cummins is much more user friendly. Easier to repair on the road.
@@fritzduval agreed on weight, nothing better than a diesel. But not all shots pull 30k worth of freight.. With my gas rig, I get plenty of work done. Been operating for 4 years now. But I did get a diesel as well. Also my rice burner has 800k on it and I do what I want to.
From my experience, a Diesel engine may have more torque and horsepower and diesel also may burn slower than gas. The cons of a diesel is, the maintenance cost is extremely higher than a gas engine and is harder to find a certified diesel mechanic on the fly. The gas engine is less cost on maintenance and is easier to find a mechanic to fix a gas engine on the fly. Secondly, it’s easier to find a gas station that have gas when gas fuel is needed when you are in some remote rural area. Not all gas stations have diesel available. Sometimes you have to drive moles to get to a station that actually have diesel. Now, depending on the weight of the load and the size of the trailer, you can use a gas truck and it’s not much of a hassle. I pull my RV travel trailer across country with a gas engine and I do just find. Really it’s not much of a difference than using a Diesel engine when the trailer is not too long and doesn’t weigh a whole lot. But a Diesel engine is extremely costly when it’s time for repairs and finding a certified diesel mechanic is not easy as a mechanic who can find a gas engine. It all depends on you and how you maximize the use of your gas truck.
The EPA are also being extremely draconian on Diesel emissions deletes as well.
I was think the same my dad truck is 2014 GMC Sierra and it 4x4 and the max it can haul is 12k or just a lil more it’s makes 400ish hp just bc of the performance intake but I was think like you said can you just add more to the engine to use for more torque and hp like you can add a turbo only for the use of hauling and stuff like that and add other stuff like injections and type mods so you can maximize the hp and torque maybe pull more up to 20k ish
@@oscarderma2622 nope .. 2500 HD can only do so much weight ...more power n torque will help move that 12k better maybe gain in mpg to Since the engine technically isn't working as hard to move 12k.
Oddly pulling 7500 pounds my 2016 F250 super duty powerstroke averaged about 11.7 mpg going from Nappanee Indiana to Jerome Idaho my brother was following in our 2021 GMC Sierra denali 1500 4x4 with the 6.2 and tow package averaged 11 mpg he was behind me from point a to b ...so naw gas is actually better if you like saving money
@@electric7487 all you guys are leaving some really good response and comments. Everyone is respectful and that means a lot in this day and age.
I know some hot shots that work around the oil fields in West Texas running v8 gas rigs. Running 454 and 460 v8s. They have 4:10 rear ends working 5spd trans, with 2spd splitter. 9 to 10 mpg.
Most diesel engines pulling in the oilfields get 5- 6 mpg.
As someone with a 460 V8 gasser with a 5 spd that gets 10 mpg empty, I can't help but feel like you got the mpg numbers for the gas and diesel trucks backwards lol
@@joshuacrooker6489 As someone with a 2021 GMC Sierra 1500 with 6.2 v8 engine in it with the 10 speed auto 7800 pound 32 ft camper I get 13mpg to 14 mpg @65mph but the payment was 800 a month
There was a test done by a big truck magazine that found the 6.8 v10 put more power to the ground that their diesel equivalents.
@@loaded.357 You're a GM guy, those 6.0 vortex's can be tuned. A guy who worked with me had a 13k welding rig he had a 6.0 and was getting 14-16mpg. Never saw him tow a trailer but he never needed to, my truck always pulled the trailers. I currently own a 6.8 and past 30mph it pulls better than the 6.0 and 24v I've used. Some gasser setups actually put their power to the ground better than a diesel.
I own f250 with 6.2 Gas and well the bottom line is if you're pulling light or heavy it all comes down on how hard or ease you want to run that engine also gas filling with 40' or 30' its not an issue you are the driver and professional you know where or when to get in or not if experience driver you know a thing or two about a thing or two, but unexperience well talk for them selves everything is impossible I get in any gas station and fill up no matter the size of station you are there to fill up also there are gas tanks for up to 50 gallons that can be set in back and be connected straight to the truck tank by just flipping a switch for the remote areas just don't glorify diesel as the ultimate resort for small freight f250 is enough power to do any job and that includes Rams 2500 why not!??
Great information.
Didn’t expect you to talk about the aspect pulling into fuel lanes LOL
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I missed a few things but that’s the main things
If you just do regular LTL with the 40ft trailer just get a diesel, if your a real hotshot that does the need to be donne load and needs some getup and go trucks with a 16-20ft trailer, get whatever is easier to work on out in the field which would be a gas truck.
In my opinion it comes down to application and P & L. The simple response this person gave was fuel station issues. I would have to agree. Because at the end of the day one can hot shot with anything, it comes down to practicality of your equipment and profitability. Todays gasoline engines have become so advanced to the point that municipalities are ordering some of their equipment with the gas option a pose to diesel. avoiding aftertreatment maintenance cost plus the unnecessary down time it causes.
Great comment.
Bullshit when uship first started I was on that weeks after they started ...
2001 chevrolet silverado 1500hd with air bags 6.0 ...24 ft x104 in wide trailer...my overhead was 1500 a month legal completely I was making about 5000 a month profit and that's more then enough for me ... I've pulled with 2016 F250 powerstroke and a 2021 Sierra 2500 HD with the big gas engine yeah the diesel pulled better but they got the same fuel economy .. And guess what's cheaper gas diesel is a dollar more normally plus oil change is more on diesel n diesel fuel filters every 25k miles ... So what if you have to slow down a little bit climbing mountains with the the gas engine you still spend less in fuel n Maintenance cost overall ...plus purchasing a diesel is way more expensive nowadays thanks Brandon.
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dude how do you think they got shit places before diesel trucks become common lol
And you think because you have a Diesel your gonna get to pull more than the truck and trailer weight ratings because you have more torque available? GVWR is what you argue when talking about how much weight you can pull! I dont ever believe someone telling me you cant do this or you cant do that!
my 2023 chevy 3500 cab n chassis with 6.6 gas gets 14-17 mpg on the highway empty, pulling my tri axle trailer with my skidsteer on it gets 8mpg , trailer weighs 6000 skidsteer weighs 8200 for a total of 14200lbs
Appreciate the helpful tip!!
Modern gas engines are just as reliable, if not more reliable than modern diesel engines (because the emissions control devices shorten their lifespan), you're only trading maximum torque for some drop in fuel mileage and a high powerband, anybody who says diesel pickups get really good fuel mileage clearly have never driven one with a 4 ton empty trailer. a modern gas truck is just a pig compared to all three american manufactures, releasing diesels pushing 1,000 ft lbs of torque. if you're okay with having a truck thats slow on takeoff and drops mph on hills, and you can drive well enough or at least plan and navigate to get fuel... I mean really? If you can't put fuel in your truck should you really be driving for a living?
IMO If you have a professional attitude, and some common sense, get what you're comfortable with, and be familiar with it, learn how it works, its strengths and weaknesses. take care of it and it will take care of you
Auxiliary gas tank..
Wonderful coment.
the diesel engine is $10,000 more when new.
I just dropped mine off today! Moses Lake, WA
It’s already a nightmare finding fuel with enough room for a 40ft trailer I can only imagine not being able to go into truck stops
Man, you need more subs on this channel. Too useful of content to go unseen. Let me see if I can change that...
Thanks i really appreciate it
Well 14k in weight with ram 6.4 still get 10 mpg . Fuel is an issue but plan actual truck stops but my trailer is only 30 ft
You can shot with gas, just not as efficient.
Gas engine, of course you can. Not because of pump location?
Appreciate the info fam ..
I got a V10 now and ima give it a shot.
Ford?
@@SuperDuty250 Yes sir. Triton V10
@@michaelrainerii3547 man ive been looking for a full sized super duty with tht engine for the longest
@@SuperDuty250 It's been indestructible for me since 03. Not a single issue
You still have that set up
Be careful on the at the pump def. Nozzles are usually dirty. You don't want to contaminate your def system. Very expensive. Great video though. I just subscribed!
Great video bro
It’s not that you can’t, it more that you shouldn’t.
Cause torque is too high in the rev mostly... Something like a 4.10 rear and tall first and second gear won't help either when you have to power 4k above idle
What type of truck is pulling that load? please can you share the picture or maybe another video and details. Thanks
Need to know what kind of tarps I need to hotshot and where can i find them at
Online they 6-8ft drop tarps different sizes i don’t use them i still use my cheap Harbor Freight Tarps lol but it would nice to have one
Tractor Supply has em
Look up a tarp company online. Black heavy duty water proof. 3 or 4 if you can.
Your pulling a trailer. If you were just hauling weight in the bed. You would want gas.
Gas trucks have a way higher payload than a diesel truck.
Ever heard of tongue weight?
What deos pay load mean?
I can say a gas truck depends on the route youre on. With 7k pounds I get around 10mpg depending on the load. But that depends on the load and the area youre driving in. Real hilly youre gonna get 8mpg. Straight flatlands you might get 14mpg. Just depends. People dont like you I can tell you that.
But gas at the truck stops
Have you ever hot shot with a gas truck ?
YOU CAN HOTSHOT WITH A GAS TRUCK ...
I CORRECT IT FOR YOU
Can the v6 diesel do the job, or do you need a v8?
Cummins (ram) are six...and Ford and chevy are v8...
@@All-Miles-Matter Oh ok. I thought the Ram had a V8 set up too. Idk. Maybe I was thinking of the older models. Enjoyed you on the Haven channel too BTW. Thx bro.
@@hypermotiontransportsllc.6595 No problem! Also, we choose rams (6 cylinder) because a cummins is much more user friendly. Easier to repair on the road.
Just take it slow
YOUR MISSING THE OBVIOUS, A GAS TRUCK WILL NOT LAST THE MILES LIKE A DIESEL PULLING LOADS 24-7
It will, if it's Japanese.
@@patabernathy1003 what Asian Diesel is going to pull 30K all day?
@@fritzduval agreed on weight, nothing better than a diesel. But not all shots pull 30k worth of freight.. With my gas rig, I get plenty of work done. Been operating for 4 years now. But I did get a diesel as well. Also my rice burner has 800k on it and I do what I want to.
I missed a few things i know and you’re right for sure
@@Joebleaux I understood your point my G, but yah I get with that Nissan too fam.
My 6.0 and 4l80e setup 5'500$