SLIP TEST - Honda CR-V AWD vs Toyota RAV4 AWD vs Subaru Forester S-AWD - @4x4.tests.on.rollers

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2023
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    Honda CR-V 2.2 iCDTI MT Real Time AWD (2005)
    vs
    Toyota Rav4 2.0 D4D MT AWD (2005)
    vs
    Subaru Forester 2.5 XT AT S-AWD (2007)
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Комментарии • 66

  • @user-hw8bo3so4g
    @user-hw8bo3so4g 11 месяцев назад +26

    Thank you! Been waiting for the CR-V gen 2 to appear on your channel. I'm really liking mine (2006/petrol/manual), a workhorse with lots of space. The AWD performance seems pretty typical for that era (based on what i've seen in your channel), not bad.

    • @leonsilcott4895
      @leonsilcott4895 2 месяца назад

      1 2 3 and the winner is Subaru Forester

  • @Softroader
    @Softroader 11 месяцев назад +17

    With the passage of time and the large number of videos shot, the results of this test are not really surprising.
    The CR-V shows the slight response times of the Dual-Pump system in returning torque to the rear.
    It also shows a certain limitation in the amount of torque it can send back, but if seems sufficient when the rear 2 wheels have grip.
    It also shows effective traction control, but this is totally dependent on ESP. As is often the case, this system is less effective at the rear. Combined with the limits of torque transfer, this is the limit.
    Finally, the Rav 4 has quite similar problems. Here, it's the viscous coupling that manages the locking rate of the central differential that is limiting. As a result, even on the front axle, traction control is not sufficient.
    In the case of the Forester, we can see quite clearly the difference in the way the multi-plate clutch operates between position D and 1. Traction control seems to be active earlier and more strongly in 1. Conversely, ESP seems rather intrusive.

  • @AlberHB.1
    @AlberHB.1 11 месяцев назад +6

    El primer video con estos modelos en todo youtube 🤩

  • @trajanaugustus8783
    @trajanaugustus8783 2 месяца назад +8

    Subaru is King here, but I do like the older Rav4 as well.

  • @krys8870
    @krys8870 11 месяцев назад +10

    W tej generacji ravki opcją był bodaj Torsen w tylnym moście. Piekne czasy, kiedy ksiegowi nie mieli jeszcze tyle głosu przy produkcji aut. Ogolnie jak na swoje lata wszystkie auta się spisały.

  • @LilDiabloRob
    @LilDiabloRob 11 месяцев назад +5

    I’ve owned an 04 CRV AWD 5 speed manual and 07 Impreza NON-TURBO automatic wagon. CRV did better than my Impreza in the winter but BOTH NEEDED LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIALS for where I live. On the way to have a two installed in the CRV but sold it due to rust/rot. Impreza was traded in due to miles and headgasket.

    • @dundee1080
      @dundee1080 11 месяцев назад +5

      Subaru and headgasket go hand in hand like bread and butter.

    • @Eugen-E
      @Eugen-E 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@dundee1080There was only one engine model with head gasket issue - the 2.5 naturally aspirated. The 2.0 n/a and turbo and the 2.5 turbo didn't have it.

  • @chevyhighrider
    @chevyhighrider 4 месяца назад +3

    I ended up getting a ‘10 CRV even though I kinda wanted a Subaru.
    I didn’t want any potential head gasket issues, consumer reports rates the Subarus quite a lot worse in terms of long term reliability and the interior was uglier. Pretty happy so far with our “new” CRV. Had 101,000 on the clock and feels like new.

  • @andreykakitis7025
    @andreykakitis7025 11 месяцев назад +8

    Люблю на старые машины посмотреть.В них душа есть.🎉

  • @mikmik9234
    @mikmik9234 10 месяцев назад +1

    Хм,не ожидал от Альфы, я удивлён 👍

  • @adammacejko1194
    @adammacejko1194 3 месяца назад +3

    Honda surprised positively, Subaru negatively...It also should be compared automatic to automatic and manual to manual trans.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 месяца назад +2

      Subaru is the only case where type of transmission influences the type of awd system.

    • @nagval7592
      @nagval7592 2 месяца назад

      Так Subaru единственная кто выехал с трёх роликов при загруженных передних! Так,что Subaru удивила положительно,а вот Honda отрицательно по факту!

    • @adammacejko1194
      @adammacejko1194 2 месяца назад +1

      @@nagval7592 if you know something about cars, you know that main benefit for Subaru is their 4wheel drive systems..Honda has other benefits - reliability, space, comfort,.. and their system is really simple and low maintenance - but as we could see, pretty well capable! So yes, Honda suprised positively, despite it is not in the same level of 4wd sofistication.

  • @dachicicqishvili8493
    @dachicicqishvili8493 11 месяцев назад +5

    CR-V:)

  • @RayRay40613
    @RayRay40613 11 месяцев назад +2

    Symmetrical-AWD can do all levels

  • @vasiliskatsiaounis
    @vasiliskatsiaounis 10 месяцев назад +3

    of corse subaru with center diff lock at low range as expected, it rocks... but only for snow because of the small ground clearence... CRV, wich i own is so impresive!!! fistly because it fails only on the one test to the rear whell wich is ecpected because the torque that is tranferd is only 30%!!! and adittional the hydrolic system is the most reliable from every other system... the rav4 wich well kown as an off road car is 3rd and it strugles

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  10 месяцев назад +2

      Subaru doesn't have low range. There's also no diff lock, there's a clutch pack which can temporarily lock the diff if computer decides to do it. It's also permanent awd system, so is the one in Toyota (mechanical center diff). CRV has on demand awd system and its biggest disadvantage is that it is only reactive system, there's no handling assist.

    • @vasiliskatsiaounis
      @vasiliskatsiaounis 10 месяцев назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers the manual i think it has low range

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@vasiliskatsiaounis It does but this one was AT.

    • @vasiliskatsiaounis
      @vasiliskatsiaounis 10 месяцев назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers i am sorry but i don't drive automatics

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  10 месяцев назад +3

      @@vasiliskatsiaounis That's your choice, no relation to the test. But be aware of the fact that sometimes automatics have better awd systems...

  • @simonpatrascu7462
    @simonpatrascu7462 11 месяцев назад +5

    Subaru îs impressive

  • @ihravagina
    @ihravagina 8 месяцев назад +1

    Is there a lift kit on the CR-V? If yes, how thick spacers?

  • @dimitu_
    @dimitu_ 11 месяцев назад +3

    Subaru is as expected, but seems that one really need to tell the system what to do with switching to 1 + Off, otherwise the electric brain is not smart enough.

  • @andinamm2246
    @andinamm2246 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow! What happens on Subaru when first gear????

  • @841106noel
    @841106noel 11 месяцев назад +2

    Mam taką crv. Na prawdę nieźle wypadła na rolkach. Niestety w terenie lekki wykrzyż i stoi.
    A w subaru kontrola trakcji działa lepiej jak się ją wyłączy 😜

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  11 месяцев назад +1

      Masz wersję z VSA? Co do Subaru, to kontrola trakcji zawsze jest aktywna, wyłącza się ESP 🙂

    • @841106noel
      @841106noel 11 месяцев назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Tak, mam z VSA. Coś tam w terenie stara się robić, ale pod niewielką górkę jak stanę w wykrzyżu to nie może podjechać. Właśnie jak to sprawdzałem to zrobiłem zdjęcie i jest ono w miniaturce.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  11 месяцев назад

      @@841106noel Nie da się zmusić układu do intensywnej pracy? Koła prosto i trzymać gaz równo przez jakiś czas, nie ujmować ani nie dodawać.

    • @841106noel
      @841106noel 11 месяцев назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Próbowałem, ale na nic. Jak wciśnie się za dużo gazu to system dławi obroty. Elektroniczna przepustnica.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@841106noel Zatem sprawdzi się na śliskich nawierzchniach, ale nie w terenie. Dopiero w czwartej generacji, i to po liftingu, rozgraniczono te funkcje i po wyłączeniu ESP można dawać więcej gazu, TC pozostaje zawsze aktywne.

  • @thepelivideos2933
    @thepelivideos2933 11 месяцев назад +1

    vw golf country next

  • @milanpesic9979
    @milanpesic9979 11 месяцев назад +1

    Testiraj te i Reno senic Rx4 sa Tojotom Rav 4 2

  • @user-rb4ui3br4m
    @user-rb4ui3br4m 4 месяца назад

    Honda xrv dizayn 👍

  • @MrBrzosti1989
    @MrBrzosti1989 11 месяцев назад +1

    Forester winner.
    Ps. jakoś mnie to nie dziwi

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  11 месяцев назад +3

      Zgadza się, aczkolwiek mamy tu egzemplarz z topową wersją S-AWD, czyli VTD+VDC. Szeregowy manual wypadłby tu najgorzej z wszystkich.

    • @MrBrzosti1989
      @MrBrzosti1989 11 месяцев назад

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Ja teraz mam już trzecie Subaru (outback 3.6) i szczerze nie chce innego auta z AWD

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  11 месяцев назад +2

      @@MrBrzosti1989 Rozumiem, ale jak wspomniałem, jedno S-AWD nie równe drugiemu, zupełnie inne konstrukcje, inne działanie.

  • @zygmuntzarzecki
    @zygmuntzarzecki 11 месяцев назад +1

    Niestety bez rewelacji te napędy. Co to za ładne autko w tle, takie niebieskie? :)

  • @MemphisMojo15s
    @MemphisMojo15s 11 месяцев назад +1

    The ground on which we drive does not roll underneath the tire like a roller does so therefore you cannot absolutely get any traction whatsoever on a roller when it is not stationary but the ground itself is stationary and the right tire can help grip on ice or mud or something else

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  11 месяцев назад +4

      I don't get your point. Tire on the ground has grip and it should pull the car, that's the point of the test.

    • @poetsrear
      @poetsrear 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollersI think he means what I was thinking as well. This is laboratory test. Even the sloshiest mud gives more traction than the rollers with relatively zero resistance; you'll never end to this kind of situation in real use. I'm not saying that's implied, but it's just something I thought.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@poetsrear But that's not correct. Roller under load has quite a lot of resistance, probably more than black ice and definitely more than wheel in the air, which is normal situation.

  • @user-xo9se6sz9p
    @user-xo9se6sz9p 11 месяцев назад +9

    SUBARU - the best!

  • @radisatosic709
    @radisatosic709 2 месяца назад +1

    SUBARU FORESTER kao i uvek je TATA

  • @ARES1001
    @ARES1001 5 месяцев назад +3

    Rav4💪