SLIP TEST - Honda CR-V AWD vs Toyota RAV4 AWD vs Subaru Forester S-AWD - @4x4.tests.on.rollers
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Honda CR-V 2.2 iCDTI MT Real Time AWD (2005)
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Toyota Rav4 2.0 D4D MT AWD (2005)
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Subaru Forester 2.5 XT AT S-AWD (2007)
#duszaniespokojna #hondacrv #subaruforester #toyotarav4 Авто/Мото
Thank you! Been waiting for the CR-V gen 2 to appear on your channel. I'm really liking mine (2006/petrol/manual), a workhorse with lots of space. The AWD performance seems pretty typical for that era (based on what i've seen in your channel), not bad.
1 2 3 and the winner is Subaru Forester
With the passage of time and the large number of videos shot, the results of this test are not really surprising.
The CR-V shows the slight response times of the Dual-Pump system in returning torque to the rear.
It also shows a certain limitation in the amount of torque it can send back, but if seems sufficient when the rear 2 wheels have grip.
It also shows effective traction control, but this is totally dependent on ESP. As is often the case, this system is less effective at the rear. Combined with the limits of torque transfer, this is the limit.
Finally, the Rav 4 has quite similar problems. Here, it's the viscous coupling that manages the locking rate of the central differential that is limiting. As a result, even on the front axle, traction control is not sufficient.
In the case of the Forester, we can see quite clearly the difference in the way the multi-plate clutch operates between position D and 1. Traction control seems to be active earlier and more strongly in 1. Conversely, ESP seems rather intrusive.
Perfect comment.
El primer video con estos modelos en todo youtube 🤩
Subaru is King here, but I do like the older Rav4 as well.
W tej generacji ravki opcją był bodaj Torsen w tylnym moście. Piekne czasy, kiedy ksiegowi nie mieli jeszcze tyle głosu przy produkcji aut. Ogolnie jak na swoje lata wszystkie auta się spisały.
I’ve owned an 04 CRV AWD 5 speed manual and 07 Impreza NON-TURBO automatic wagon. CRV did better than my Impreza in the winter but BOTH NEEDED LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIALS for where I live. On the way to have a two installed in the CRV but sold it due to rust/rot. Impreza was traded in due to miles and headgasket.
Subaru and headgasket go hand in hand like bread and butter.
@@dundee1080There was only one engine model with head gasket issue - the 2.5 naturally aspirated. The 2.0 n/a and turbo and the 2.5 turbo didn't have it.
I ended up getting a ‘10 CRV even though I kinda wanted a Subaru.
I didn’t want any potential head gasket issues, consumer reports rates the Subarus quite a lot worse in terms of long term reliability and the interior was uglier. Pretty happy so far with our “new” CRV. Had 101,000 on the clock and feels like new.
Люблю на старые машины посмотреть.В них душа есть.🎉
no
@@user-vq3tg5sj8i Да
Хм,не ожидал от Альфы, я удивлён 👍
Honda surprised positively, Subaru negatively...It also should be compared automatic to automatic and manual to manual trans.
Subaru is the only case where type of transmission influences the type of awd system.
Так Subaru единственная кто выехал с трёх роликов при загруженных передних! Так,что Subaru удивила положительно,а вот Honda отрицательно по факту!
@@nagval7592 if you know something about cars, you know that main benefit for Subaru is their 4wheel drive systems..Honda has other benefits - reliability, space, comfort,.. and their system is really simple and low maintenance - but as we could see, pretty well capable! So yes, Honda suprised positively, despite it is not in the same level of 4wd sofistication.
CR-V:)
Symmetrical-AWD can do all levels
It depends which type of S-AWD.
of corse subaru with center diff lock at low range as expected, it rocks... but only for snow because of the small ground clearence... CRV, wich i own is so impresive!!! fistly because it fails only on the one test to the rear whell wich is ecpected because the torque that is tranferd is only 30%!!! and adittional the hydrolic system is the most reliable from every other system... the rav4 wich well kown as an off road car is 3rd and it strugles
Subaru doesn't have low range. There's also no diff lock, there's a clutch pack which can temporarily lock the diff if computer decides to do it. It's also permanent awd system, so is the one in Toyota (mechanical center diff). CRV has on demand awd system and its biggest disadvantage is that it is only reactive system, there's no handling assist.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers the manual i think it has low range
@@vasiliskatsiaounis It does but this one was AT.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i am sorry but i don't drive automatics
@@vasiliskatsiaounis That's your choice, no relation to the test. But be aware of the fact that sometimes automatics have better awd systems...
Subaru îs impressive
Is there a lift kit on the CR-V? If yes, how thick spacers?
There is but I have no detailed information.
Ok, thänx!
Subaru is as expected, but seems that one really need to tell the system what to do with switching to 1 + Off, otherwise the electric brain is not smart enough.
Wow! What happens on Subaru when first gear????
It locks the center diff.
Mam taką crv. Na prawdę nieźle wypadła na rolkach. Niestety w terenie lekki wykrzyż i stoi.
A w subaru kontrola trakcji działa lepiej jak się ją wyłączy 😜
Masz wersję z VSA? Co do Subaru, to kontrola trakcji zawsze jest aktywna, wyłącza się ESP 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Tak, mam z VSA. Coś tam w terenie stara się robić, ale pod niewielką górkę jak stanę w wykrzyżu to nie może podjechać. Właśnie jak to sprawdzałem to zrobiłem zdjęcie i jest ono w miniaturce.
@@841106noel Nie da się zmusić układu do intensywnej pracy? Koła prosto i trzymać gaz równo przez jakiś czas, nie ujmować ani nie dodawać.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Próbowałem, ale na nic. Jak wciśnie się za dużo gazu to system dławi obroty. Elektroniczna przepustnica.
@@841106noel Zatem sprawdzi się na śliskich nawierzchniach, ale nie w terenie. Dopiero w czwartej generacji, i to po liftingu, rozgraniczono te funkcje i po wyłączeniu ESP można dawać więcej gazu, TC pozostaje zawsze aktywne.
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If we only find it...
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Honda xrv dizayn 👍
Forester winner.
Ps. jakoś mnie to nie dziwi
Zgadza się, aczkolwiek mamy tu egzemplarz z topową wersją S-AWD, czyli VTD+VDC. Szeregowy manual wypadłby tu najgorzej z wszystkich.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Ja teraz mam już trzecie Subaru (outback 3.6) i szczerze nie chce innego auta z AWD
@@MrBrzosti1989 Rozumiem, ale jak wspomniałem, jedno S-AWD nie równe drugiemu, zupełnie inne konstrukcje, inne działanie.
Niestety bez rewelacji te napędy. Co to za ładne autko w tle, takie niebieskie? :)
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The ground on which we drive does not roll underneath the tire like a roller does so therefore you cannot absolutely get any traction whatsoever on a roller when it is not stationary but the ground itself is stationary and the right tire can help grip on ice or mud or something else
I don't get your point. Tire on the ground has grip and it should pull the car, that's the point of the test.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersI think he means what I was thinking as well. This is laboratory test. Even the sloshiest mud gives more traction than the rollers with relatively zero resistance; you'll never end to this kind of situation in real use. I'm not saying that's implied, but it's just something I thought.
@@poetsrear But that's not correct. Roller under load has quite a lot of resistance, probably more than black ice and definitely more than wheel in the air, which is normal situation.
SUBARU - the best!
SUBARU FORESTER kao i uvek je TATA
Rav4💪