I made a class based on your Witch Knight build with a few modifications, and ended up with a Paladin caught twixt their divine patron and a Puppeteer style entity for our Strahd campaign show. Absolutely enthralling, and the DM is using the dueling patrons with a lot of enthusiasm. Great advice, I look forward to hearing about this build.
Today, I finally snapped. I couldn’t, I just couldn’t hold it in anymore, dude-tyans ! I pledged for Sebastian Crowe’s Guide to Drakkenheim. CANT WAIT UNTIL THE RELEASE!
Sorcadins are by far my favorite characters. However, I take my 3rd level as Sorcerer which unlocks all the spells from the beginning to include GFB or BB earlier. You also get access to Bonus Action spells such as Healing Word and Reaction Shield. It does slow down your 5th level jump a bit, but since Cantrips increase in damage with character level and not class level, you still get to do more damage, but you have 1 less attack to try to hit or smite with. That said 6th level gives that to you as well. Here's hoping BG3 adds in GFB or BB...
I wish one of my Players had chosen this when we started drakkenheim. Fire Genasi Sorcadin really fits sacred flame and falling fire and being the reincarnation of St Vetruvio: "You dare the audacity to speak for the flame? I AM THE FLAME!"
You could also do two levels of paladin, two levels of hex blade, and 16 levels of swords barred. this would give you eighth level spells, A ninth level spell slot, the ability to use your charisma modifier instead of strength, and Eldridge blast.
I’d love to watch a series of just unique multiclass builds that y’all come up with, maybe do a theme for the multiclass and then both of y’all come up with unique versions of the same multiclass either with different subclass choices or just feat choices in general
I second this. I would even take it further and say beyond just multiclassing I would love to see them make builds with any 2 restrictions whether it's class/class, race/class, or a specific subclass.
I've had the idea of hopping onto HeroForge and making a character for every single multi-class combo, and then displaying them all on RUclips. Get ready for a Fairy Barbarian riding her Corgi shaped Steel Defender into battle, granting it advantage with Wolf Totem. Mounted Combatant feat as well. :)
My first character was a Dragonborn Vengeance Paladin of Bahamut with Divine Soul sorcerer mix. He wanted to get vengeance on the chromatic dragon's for enslaving his people, he later found out he actually came from a lineage that had the blood of a servitor of Bahamut in it.
@@silentrain713 Thanks for the compliment. Regarding your choice I would recommend to go with a gem dragonborn that can fly, with topaz having the strongest resistance. As smiting requires melee so flying enemies can be a weakness for Paladin. The Paladin choice is really up to you indeed if want to go more rp. All Paladin's are good pretty much.
My explanation for how my paladin became a sorcerer was that everytime he smites a small amount of divine energy remains in his body and eventually builds up to the point that it becomes a divine spark and fused with his soul
I have a Fallen Aasimar Twilight Cleric/Shadow Sorcerer combo who worships Scrion and Tannag as corrupted powers came about from hiding away from a holy war in the Shadowfell. My whole is sniping enemies from magical darkness (Eldritch devil's sight, spells sniper, and warcaster, feats) then rushing in to revive the tank. A few levels of Twilight druid for the Harvest Scythe used on magic missiles makes for a great heal/damage combo with a silvery barbs/icingdeath frost or entangle to lock enemies in the darkness up close.
I plan to make paladin-sorcerer dragonborn in Baldurs Gate 3. Dragonblooded sorc so in my headcanon his draconic heritage would awaken at the third level due to the trauma caused by the mindlfyer parasite in his brain.
Having a played a divine soul sorcadin myself, I gotta say I completely agree. One of my favorite PCs hands down, if not my personal favorite. I got to live that fantasy of being a Dragon Disciple from Pathfinder/Neverwinter Nights by being a sorcadin of Bahamut. 😎
Divine Soul Oath of Devotion is just an absolute monster. War Caster, Sentinel, Spirit Guardians...throw in a Quickened Lightening Lure or Booming Blade and the character is just so much fun to play.
I did the same thing with a Hexblade/Swords Bard build. Stole spirit guardians using my magical secrets. And I wasn’t disappointed lol. My sorcadin was Oath of the Watchers/Clockwork Soul, and that is ALSO nasty.
It can also be the opposite if you go further into paladin instead of sorcerer. You dabbled in things, went 'oh hell no' and then fight to protect everyone else from what you saw.
That'd be a pretty short video. "Refer to our How to Build a Paladin Sorcerer Multiclass in Dungeons and Dragons 5e video, but add one level of Hexblade warlock at character level 2."
@@shenpai1566 Why just one in Warlock though? Second gives you Agonizing Blast and one other invocation, third gives you Pact of the Blade, fifth gives you Eldritch Smite and 3rd level spells. The more Warlock levels you have for this, the more Sorlock shenanigans you can utilize. Not to mention you can use your Pact Magic spell slots for smiting, as they come back on a short rest.
@@MadnessOpus Both Sorlock and Padlock are decent multiclass builds, but if you go Sorlockadin, you need to focus on one or two of the classes to avoid diluting yourself. The reason to dip warlock is the Charisma attacks. Any more than that is getting greedy.
I would love to play a dex based paladin of Bahamut that finds out he’s blessed with draconic sorcery, for a higher unarmored ac and more hit points as a sorcerer. Sort of roam around and burst people and sneak around like a rogue but still be bulky and hard to hit like a paladin.
Reminder that Divine Smite only lets you smite with up to a 5th level spell slot… BUT, you can turn 8th and 9th level spell slots into sorcery points and make 2-3 5th level spell slots in order to have 3 huge burst damage charges for any combat you need
@@juantinajero9211 i miss interpreted, i thought you were saying to burn paladin slots into points to create 8th and 9th level spell slots !! which i was referencing that you can't create slots greater than 5th level
@@mrr2135 yeah no, what I was trying to say is that you can’t create spell slots higher than 5th as a sorcerer AND that the highest level you can smite is 5, so it meshes perfectly
Awesome, you guys finally made a character I played from lv1 to lv20 on an amazing campaign, Michael Titanborn, who at the very end became a literal demi-god. Great job as always.
Nice I’m currently playing a vengeance 7/divine 3, and we are going all 20. Having played all the way through, do you have any must do’s & don’ts to set me up at higher levels?
@@kamaronkent6888 Absolutely, my DM is awesome and worked closely with us to make custom magic items, if you can get something similar, that would help you a lot, as an example, you might have only 15str but he gives you a belt of giant str, so now you can focus on your CON and CHA. Also, Spirit Guardians are your best friends in almost every fight, and if you are playing with the expanded spell list, fire shield is awesome, overall try and use things that will deal damage over a period of time, instead of 1 burst like fire ball. Your criticals should always be smites, and against bosses you will always have advantage (vow of enimity) or flanking.
This is actually a great build for taking Metamagic Intiate. It minimizes the loss of Sorcerer Levels you don't take by giving you 2 more Metamagic Choices and Metamagic Points and just generally makes you even more versatile with what you can do with the spells you have.
I haven't played, but I wanna do a 2Paladin + 1HexBlade + MaxSorcerer with metamagic feat. Full CHA powerhouse from lvl 5. Sorcerers are THE casters cause of metamagic. Shits broken, not to mention Divine Soul or Clockwork. _GGEZ_
Aberrant Mind. I know the default 'flavor' is obviously aberration themed but it is extremely flexible! And, the abilities can 100% fit a fey theme. Psionic Spell feature let's you swap all those spells for what you want: "The new spell must be a divination or an enchantment spell from the sorcerer, warlock, or wizard spell list." Notice it says basically any Enchantment spell. So load up on your charms and suggestions and etc. The 6th level ability gives protection from psychic damage, but also fear and charm. That's standard fey themed ability if I ever saw one. Even if you stick with it til 14th level, all the abilities is Revelation of Flesh can be easily themed as Fey abilities. Seeing invisible things? Easy. Flight? Fairy wings. Water breathing swimming? That fits fine. Fit through small spaces? Just narrative it as rapidly growing shrinking or whatever.
Why wait untill 7th to take sorcerer? I'd take it early and get green flame blade and booming blade when you only have one attack. Plus you can grab shield when you still only have chain armor and a ranged attack cantrip like fire bolt. If you actually play the early levels, then you don't want to wait for the split.
6:35 Actually, if you go with 2x15, 1x13, 3x9 (+1 to any) and chooses standard human with +1 to all stats, you get both balanced and strong combination with no negative ability scores. You don't get other cool racial abilities, but with taking half-feat at lvl 4 for this one spare point left from point buy, you are practically becoming good at everything you need and more!
Character concept: V. Human who became a Devotion Paladin of Mystra (Goddess of Magic) to remove his burgeoning Wild Magic. But Mystra doesn't remove and instead only represses them so the man can learn to control them over time (hence the Sorcerer multiclass at later levels).
Spoiler alerts warning ⛔️ if you haven’t played the drakkenhime module please don’t read this I’m a level 7 divine sorcerer thinking of dipping into pally and hexblade warlock we just finish the black ivory inn mission 😱 you guys are evil it’s ground hog day on delerium if this is a bit of a spoiler please delete the comment love from Vancouver bc
I just started playing D&D and it was recommended I play a paladin so I did so I didn't know what I was doing. Want to say I appreciate all your videos and help me so much. And at this level I decided I wanted the multi class and then I watched your video. And I totally worked in the Divine Souls into my backstory that my God was happy with me and bestowed on me power of my own to wield
Oh how I wish I could get Spirit Guardians on my paladin/sorcerer. I went clockwork soul for armor of agathys (and some other stuff) to buff my mount since I'm playing a mounted combatant. Skipped war caster and just use subtle spell when I need to
I'd love to see a ranking of character builds that are counter-intuitive, like an artificer with a negative INT mod. Most of their spells are buffs or support, and more importantly, Flash of Genius now becomes a useful debuff since it works on any creature, not just allies.
I'm a bit late getting to this video but it sounds like a good combination that I might have to try sometime. Another great alternative if you only want a 2 level dip into a martial class is to get 2 levels of Fighter to pair with Divine Soul Sorcerer. That action surge can really make a huge difference.
The other benefit of going to 6/7th level Paladin - The Find Steed+GF/Booming Blade Interaction. Find Steed states that “you can make any spell that targets only you also target your steed,” and GF/Booming have a range of “Self,” so when you cast GF/Booming Blade, it also affects the Steed’s natural weapons - which have to make an attack as part of the spell!
That is extremely debatable. Cone of Cold has a range of "Self" but it does not target only you, it targets all the creatures in the cone. Thus most DMs should rule that BB/GFB do not target only you thus do not affect the Steed.
Yeah range and targeting are different things. Booming blade clearly targets the enemy you attack with it. Haste targets you, as it gives you the effect, and would give haste to your steed as well.
Personally I’d grab Metamagic Adept for a free feat. With your Paladin Aura and maybe War Caster you should be fine for concentration checks. With Metamagic right out the gate you can Quicken Spell Bless and still Attack. Also it works thematically as you feel a magic inside you start to awaken upon gaining your Paladin magic
@@alexanderwyattberg if your dm is generous and gives you a free feat at level 1, play as an Aasimar since they get the light cantrip at level 1. Yes racial cantrips count as spells in this case
@@zach415 Racial cantrips don't count as the Spellcasting feature unfortunately. As a DM, I would probably just allow them to grab War Caster without the prereq
The hybrid of 6 Paladin, 5 Sorcerer, 9 Hexblade... That's the 20th level character i'd want to play. Would probably go 6 pally, 5 hexblade, 1 sorc during the actual levels of play normal games get to.
Gonna comment my simple build before watching vid, see if it matches close. 6 lvls Conquest Paladin, 3 lvls Sorc (and rest Sorc) for Shadow Blade x2 and Spiritual Weapon combo. You could go a different Oath and take Divine Soul Sorc instead to get Spiritual Weapon it'll just take longer to get. At Sorc 5 you can take Spirit Guardians instead if multiple enemies are close, or if in dim light you can stay Shadow Blade. Ok now watching vid to see how poor my build is compared to theirs lol
I played an ancients paladin7 divine soul 5 and if a Paladin feel like a sports car, the sorcerer levels feel like that same sports car with Nos and a turbo charged engine. It’s so much fun
Ahaha! Mindreading me or what? I was JUST about to sit down and create either a dragonborn pure sorcerer or paladin, maybe muliticlass either way 😂 Im thinking of having either a Green chromatic dragonborn, child of a blue and yellow dragonborn. Wanting to meet up with his parents after long time no see. Using and updating the Yellow coastal salt dragon statblocks from old Dragon magazine 245 and lore in that Tiamat have bred more chromatic dragon types which again gave rise to yellow, purple, orange dragonborns aswell. My Green dragonborn would have condensed salt breath attack but also a sorcerers dragon path with lightning, since one of his parents is a Blue dragon. Blue+ Yellow = Green you know. Tiamat could intentionally have color blending teaching as part of cross breeding her chromatics or just stand alone. WotC take note! I want my orange, yellow, purple ( not fungi deep ), gray and brown minis! 😁
Honestly, i love your content guys but of all the combos you could do, this one needs the least explanation. There simply is no going wrong. Neither with the choice of subclasses (i just love my Aasimar oath of devotion/divine soul) or the split. Once you got to 5/5 you can literally burst the damage of a level 20 fighter. And after that the world is your oyster. Do whatever feels good to you and you will still have an AWESOME character. I know my build Pal15/sor5 is opposite of "ideal" but do I care when I can dish out ludicrous damage and just refuse to kick the can? (Arguably the most important is the second part) It just is a beatiful combo to learn multiclassing imho as it is ultra forgiving and you always end with a solid as gold character.
the only issue with that burst is that you quickly run out of gas, whereas the fighter can just short rest once and be ready to go again. it’s absolutely impressive, just not quite the same. also, “once you hit 5/5” my dog the game is over. level 10 characters are already very strong, and games tend to peter out around then. this video is about what to do before you get to that point
@@Hazel-xl8in yeah that burst is really short lived but let me tell you it feels AWESOME! Seriously my paladin/sorcerer is the most fun I've head. And it's great to just have that "insane mode" stowed away. I know, I can only use it in serious fights and use my resources sparingly in all other encounters. But good lord, it feels good when you let loose. It's almost an anime moment. Supersayan, ninetails transformation, bankai. Take your pic. To be fair I am mostly playing mid-high level campaign. I know that's not what most prefer, but I've done a few campaigns to twenty. We're at level 13 now, sor 5 pal 8. 5/5 was when this build really gets going. But no matter how you get there, you will have a great character. I actually picked the wrong route and multiclassed to early. I turned sorcerer at level 3 because the campaign we were running was brutal enough, I couldn't plan ahead that was my second character that campaign. I've been constantly running out of spell slots for healing or just buffing my AC. So I dipped 2/1 then 2/2 then 2/3 all the way to 2/5 simply because I had made the mistake to dip early but even then it was a good character. It worked. It's a character you cannot go wrong with. No matter in which stage of the game. You won't believe how many times having haste "early" at level 7 proved to be a lifesaver. (Haste to this day is a lifesaver. Despite me using it wrong all the time. I can booming blade on the haste action instead of doing a regular attack)
Vengence Paladin/Divine Sorcerer and Spirt Guardians is what my current multi shot DM has said ruined his fun. It's crazy powerful. I highly suggest 6 Pally/14 Sorc. Currently at level 12 I have to take 28 damage to even have to roll on a conc check and all my save are very respectable without much anything but Arua
in the curent game in in rn, one player is oathbreaker, divine sorcerer palidin, he has a 30 AC can do 200+damage in one turn, and is the most strongest character in the table
Getting some Fate/Stay imagery of a full plate greatsword paladin crouching into a runner stance and casting haste before launching themselves into combat. Brb gonna build a character
do paladin sorcerer warlock...is a great combination but is hard to pull out because you need a lot of little things to understand. I disagree on this getting 6 level in paladin... you need sorcerer before for healing...I will do 2 level paladin then 2 sorcerer so you have smite and sorcery points you want to get 3 level of sorcerer for metamagic but you don't need it right away and maybe a 1 level dip in hexblade warlock... when you have 2 levels of paladin with smite 2 level of sorcerer to sorcery point to use to create spell slot you are set... 1 level warlock give you shield early on and 1 more 1 level slot at low level 2 if you do a 2 level dip... best should be 3 for invocation and improve pact weapon
hexblade warlock paladin sorcerer... I'm trying to build this one but I have a lot off issues race is a aasimar protector class I started with paladin oath of ancient stat I use standard array giving 15 cha on +2 for race 14 STR 13 Con 12 Dex 10 Int and 8 Wis +1 for the race bonus now for multiclass I want to go hexblade Right away even before the second level paladin for eldlich blast and shield and so i can use Cha to attack then it come the fist problem...I go for sorcerer divine soul for support and healing and spell slot or i keep going with paladin and hexblade the landmark i want are paladin smite and aura of protection hexblade agonizing blast and pact of the blade and improved pact weapon sorcerer i want the sorcery point and a mid level spells slot so before a short rest I can use the warlock slot for sorcery point and then I can use those to metamagic or to create low level spell slot to smite you get a lot from sorcerer divine soul you can use quicken spell and twin spell to double your spell use... quicken a bless or a Eldrich blast and then attack and use smite... if you get level 5 as warlock hexblade you can double the smite using divine smite and Eldrich smite together...
Remember when Charisma was the dump stat? Now I wonder if maybe WotC over-compensated? I plan on using CON based sorcerers going forward - but I don't think that would hinder this particular build much.
im running a Paladin 2 Sorcerer 10. Hill Dwarf Draconic Sorcerer, Tough & War Caster. A shit ton of HP, +6 in CHA, and fire elemental affinity. I use illusionist bracers to get two attacks with green-flame blade for 2d8+6 +1d8+7(7 str) + any smite damage per swing. An absolute nova lad
I literally thought of this earlier today and made a build of Divine Soul Sorcerer and Oath of Glory Paladin. Aasimar race, starting with paladin, then sorcerer and the first feat I take is metamagic adept. Time to Twin Guiding Bolt or Quicken Guiding Bolt and then Attack!
Thanks for the "Sorcadin" guide. Divine soul is nice, but clockwork is stronger. My ranking: Clockwork > Aberrant > Divine Soul > Shadow Magic > Other Clockwork - x2 the number of your spells (more combat potential) Aberrant - x2the number of your spells (more social potential) Divine Soul - it's good when you just want to play the default paladin with a couple of new options/ priest spells are very organic for a paladin Shadow Magic - same as the previous one, but if you want to play default evil paladin shadow magic is your choice (hexblade still better) * I took into account the subclasses level benefits)
@@The3FightingDragons Tasha sorcerer subclasses rly OP. The main problem of sorcerer is a small number of spells. WoC create 2 new subclass and just doubled spells num.)) The ability to choose from a list of a wizard, sorcerer and sorcerer is stronger than school restrictions. Especially considering that the default list of additional spells already has nice priest and bard spells.
Having played this, here's my insights on what you could've done: 1. you could've dipped hexblade 1 to align your attack/cast stats if not using a 2-hander. 2. you could've started sorc 1 for con save prof and early access to shield, guidance, etc. the tradeoff here is no heavy armor but imo medium armor + dex is better anyway. 1 less ac but +2 initiative, dex saves and dex skill checks. extra attack comes 1 level late but that isn't a long wait and you get booming blade scaling at level 5 to tide you over. 3. imo the pal 2 + sorc x version manages resources better as you attack less (have 1 less attack to smite on) but you have more spell slots to smite with. quicken haste or quicken booming blade gives you a 2nd/3rd attack. 4. divine sorc is indeed the best pick for the sorc subclass here unless you want to have some fun with wild magic. for paladin subclass, i'd pick conquest simply for the guided strike channel divinity. or vengance for vow of enmity. taking conquest up to 7 is fine. another pick for 7 is oath of watchers to increase the action economy of the party. oath of the ancients imo is overrate as it's resistance to magic dmg. it's not advantage to saves. 5. subtle spell can be considered for metamagic if you wanted to go sword and board without the warcaster feat tax. not all spells have S components without M anyway.
This has to be my favourite multiclass. Something with it just give me good feels (except for the fact that it's a CHA-heavy class, but that's a known problem and something I need to work on...)
Then next is the Bardladin...Paladard... bard + paladin I think joining those two S tier classes complement each other so well... one has high damage and tanking and the other has awesome reactions (lorebard) and bonus actions and both use charisma, also, the full caster spellslots levels of the bard really help the smiting Add a booming blade (magic initiate) and Maul with crusher feat and the heavy armor AC and is a win/win
booming blade is unfortunately not on the bard, paladin, or cleric (through blessed warrior) spell lists. you’d have to play something like a high elf or take the magic initiate feat in order to make it work
also what reactions does the bard get? i understand the lore bard has cutting words, but if you haven’t banned silvery barbs then it’s also on the sorcerer spell list. sorcerer also gets shield and absorb elements to enhance your front line potential, as well as counterspell if you take it that far.
@@Hazel-xl8in Yes, with a feat to get booming blade, also find familiar since bards are ritual casters, bards get less cantrips than other fullcasters, so its good for them. Silvery barbs is op too, and yes, lore bards using cutting words is the best reaction for the bards to help allies, alternate with silvery bards for action economy, and lore bards get aditional magical secrets People sometimes think bardic inspiration is a lowkey feature because its basic use is nit that great, but bardic inspiration realnuse is for subclass features. In this case one of the best ones: reaction to help and save allies: cutting words reduce the attacks on allies, and silvery barbs can make enemies fail saves. Is about get them right. Also, with additional magical secrets you could actually choose cantrips, not recomended but it works too Pd: i didnt say it was better, just that they should talk about the paladin of aphrodite (bard+paladin)
I have played it several times, and loved it. I even went so far as to take a 2 level dip into Hexblade. Charisma attack stats, 2 extra 1st level slots on a short rest, and a couple invocations. At level four with 2 Levels Pali, 1 level Hexblade, 1 Level Sorc and you can level up based on story progression the rest of the way. Yes it feels Gish and it is amazing.
First time I played DnD as a player I was already deep into build crafting and since I wanted to make a tank for our party I ended up making Sorcadin without even knowing it was already a thing. But I did 1 level of Paladin then 1 Sorcerer, then Paladin to 6. Heavy Armor 18 AC Defense +1 AC Shield +2 AC 'Shield' spell for the average big hit. Silvery barbs for the occasional critical hit or saving friends. + Dodge or Protection from Evil and Good + Divine soul sorcerer's 'Favored by the gods' for the saving throws.
My current character is a divine soul sorcerer/glory paladin, and he is one of my favorite characters that I've ever played. Getting the combo of a quickened guiding bolt and two attacks with higher level smites makes me feel like an absolute beast, especially against undead, where radiant damage is very effective.
You could play a Sorcadin...or you could play a SORLOCKADIN! 2 levels of Paladin, we only need smites! 5 levels of Hexblade Warlock, take Improved Pact Weapon, Thirsting Blade, and Eldritch Smite! Double smites, and our melee weapons and spells use the same score! 5 levels of Divine Soul Sorcerer! By total level 12 you'll get Spirit Guardians! Now here's the tricky part. You can go the rest of the way in Sorcerer for higher slots and better spellcasting, OR you can go to level 9 Hexblade for Banishing Smite. Banishing Smite, Eldritch Smite, Divine Smite, and Booming Blade! The ULTIMATE SMITE!!!
Forever dm here. I have a paladin / sorcerer I gave my party to help out for a while, and they liked him a lot, however I wanted to tryout a paladin / warlock when we started Curse of Strahd. After seeing how overpowered this npc was I wanted to give the former npc back to the party rather than over play the latter npc. My party said please no, let us keep the paladin / warlock at least until we finish Strahd. Both class mixes play very well, and I have to admit I didn't like paladins much until 5E. Good video, thanks.
Should probably show the Paladin Sorcerer at my table this video. I’m a big fan of starting campaigns at 12 and sort of “mirroring” the Drakkenheim campaign were they need to think in turns of HEY TEAMWORK and WHAT CAN THE DM THROW BACK AT US. Just because you’re a high level doesn’t mean you’re unstoppable at my table
I was gonna make a divine souls sorcerer who has a alternate personality who's a oathbreaker paladin his spell list are duality spells heal harm bless bane inflict/cure wounds The sorcerer is timid and scared and the paladin is angry and violent it should be good in our campaign Each level I roll a d 20 high and I'll go another sorcerer and if low its a paladin to see which side is more dominant that level
There is a campaign called The Odyssey of the Dragonlords, that om currently playing. The sorcerer subclass in the book is the Demi-god subclass. It allows you to make weapon attacks with Charisma instead of strength. So I did that for Sorcadin, and so far so good.
Paladin 6/ Sorcerer 6 is my absolute favorite build in the game. It cures the action economy woes of the paladin and turns smite output up to 11. It also makes it a proper half-caster instead of the truncated burst damage fighter it is in the phb. My two favorites are Oath of Glory/Divine Soul and Oath of Conquest/Storm. Both of them have fantastic combos, but the latter is an absolute monster in combat. Quickened Lightning lure into shocking grasp is the most satisfying "GET OVER HERE" move I've ever killed a mob with.
I actually did Vengeance/Clockwork for my Sorcadin, the extra spells feel really good, and my party is fairly low when it comes to magical power so focusing more on the arcane aspect of sorcerer is very helpful. I haven't really missed Spiritual Weapon since my bonus action is pretty much always being used. I'm also a Sword and Board type since I'm the only frontliner so my durability ended up being a big concern. The burst that I get despite being a shield user is extremely satisfying.
You know what the best weapon for weapon and shield paladin with arcane dip? Staff of power. Yes she works with polearm master and gives a +2 to attack AND ac.
My Pal2/Divine Soul Sorc is staff and board with PAM and a SoP. It is exactly as awesome as you think it is. Plus, when I crit, I can throw another 2d8 force damage on top of my smite with a single charge from the Staff 🙃
Another great feature of starting Paladin instead of Sorcerer is getting 10HP+con at level 1 instead of 6HP+con like you would with sorcerer. It’s only 4HP but at early levels you really want as much as you can get.
Just for fun, I built Darth Vader as an Oath of Conquest / Aberrant Mind. It's a lot of fun throwing people around as a Bonus Action before you cut down anything that hasn't run away.
@Julian Mehlmann Absolutely, also as a Warforged (more machine than man). There are a lot of great spells for the Force, (reverse gravity is a favorite for hallways).
@@julianmehlmann2996 "Obi-Wan has taught you well." My favorite one is Animate Objects, to just pelt the enemy with any loose objects in the room. Personally, I use Hold Person for force choke. Auto crit on a Paladin/Sorcerer is insane.
I recently discovered the awesome combination of Paladin-Barbarian. I'm currently a 8 Totem Barb/4 Ancients Paladin. I orginally was going for Barb/Fighter, but decided to be more original. I don't do a lot of Battle Magic, however Reckless+DivineSmite+GW Fighting + GW Master + Rage = Clean Sweep. I'm going to go Barb9 next for Brutal Crit. I rarely Channel Divinity so I more often use it as a bonus spell slot. As for Spellcasting, I mostly use it for non-combat stuff, for example I can 'Smell Magic'. A lot of people said it'd be a bad idea, but I encourage you guys to try it!
Another pretty decent choice is Clockwork soul sorcerer, since the swap out is one of the few ways to get armor of Agthys on a sorcerer, and upcast it many times. For extra funzies, cast find steed first and dual cast it on you and your mount before sending him into battle as an ice-splotion.
I’m starting Strahd soon, and hoping the DM will let me waive the multiclass rules to build a dhampir dexterity sorcadin. Plan is to start with sorcerer for mage armor and shield, then 6 levels of paladin before 3 more of sorcerer. It’s a shame the campaign ends at level 10! On the other hand, the new find steed means at level 10 I can upcast it for a winged steed, never possible under 2014 rules!
I have been playing a sorcadin for 2 years from lv 1-17 and gotta say, it’s amazing. However, I was surprised to not see a mention of spirit shroud. It’s a great spell that is especially useful for a sorcadin that has the spellslots to upcast it :)
Im Dah Unicorn (nice name) Iv been playing a vengeance 6/ divine 3 for about 6 months and we are going all the way to 20. Since you played so deep, what other do’s & don’ts would you advise? I am the main melee fighter, currently have the feat war caster. Why shroud over guardians?
now I have a question, though it might not relate to the video, what to do if you like the arts in a DnD book, and want to use it in your DnD campaign, but don't like the story and everything else? Do you still buy it??
I disagree with going all the way to paladin 6 or 7 without dipping into 1 level of divine soul sorcerer. Doing that gives you a few cleric spells, and some cantrips, which Paladins don't get. (unless you take the Blessed Warrior fighting style, which isn't an ideal fighting style for the paladin most of the time.) It does put you 1 level behind for getting your ASI and extra attack, etc; but being 1 level behind isn't too bad, and in my opinion, it's kind of worth it.
I’m currently playing as a young Protector Aasimar who’s a 6th level Vengeance Paladin and 3rd level Divine Soul Sorcerer in the Crucible of Fate tournament here on RUclips. The build is just starting to come online as power increases. My character (Sir Daelon Dawnblaze) has killed two powerful monsters so far (CR16 & CR17).
Half-Elf have a great array for this kind of character. +2 CHA +1 STR and +1 CON. You can have the same ability scores and even switch the skill proficiencies for High Elf cantrip and get Booming Blade. Sure, you don't have a 1st level feat, but it's still a good build. And the stats lets you get a 16 in all important one without being forced to get 8 in WIS, INT and DEX
I really hope you guys can do a 2024 rule update for this multiclass setup. I don't want to lose my Aasimar Paladin that can cast Guiding Bolt, Spiritual Weapon, and Spirit Guardians. Nothing comes even close in terms of character flavor for me 😭
oh yes, the combination that i am convinced is the reason paladin need pure strength and not "strength or dex" to multiclass. I do love the Sorcadin for pure that power fantasy, like yeah those anime power moment are also the reason I don't play them often but you can't say they aren't a blast.
My paladin/sorcerer is a Reborn Vengeance/Shadow Sorcery, with a few allowances from the DM for Thaumaturgy and Spirit Shroud (renamed Shadow Thaumaturgy and Mantle of Death), and it's amazing even at only 5/5 as of right now. His rough backstory is that he used to be a champion of the god of death, but centuries ago was almost killed and sealed himself in a hidden tomb, only to awaken now with no memory of who he used to be. This has led to some fun bits, for example where, as a side quest (the others couldn't make it to the session to continue the main story), some of our party went to investigate a mysterious new cult. The eldritch being they worshipped was contacted first by the bard, who then informed the Hexblade and my character how to do it. Upon my character entering the dream-space to converse with it, the eldritch being almost panicked, saying "You? How are you here?! Please, I don't want any trouble. If my cult is interfering with your business, I'll tell them to move somewhere else." How he plays is he spends 2 sorcery points to cast Darkness on himself that he can see through, he gets advantage on attacking everyone while everyone else gets disadvantage on attacking him, and just wrecks house. What's even funnier is that, as the DM's unique setting is where a technologically advanced world that had lost its magic and monsters merged with a young world that still had it, we ended up going up against exo-suit soldiers with infrared goggles to see through darkness. Until our druid asked, "Since [my paladin/sorcerer character] is technically dead, would he not show up on infrared?" Which I LOVE as a terrorizing tactic, because Darkness pops up, they put on their infrared goggles, and my character is still gone, but the enemies are still getting hit!
I like Paladincerer (pal-uh-DINTZ-ur-ur). Their background says they're from Pittsburgh. As I was watching, I was thinking "Take Paladin to Level 7, because you're of course playing a subclass that gets something sexy at Level 7; then pile on seven levels of Divine Soul Sorcerer; Favored By the Gods at Level1 alone is almost worth the dip; which puts you at Level 10 on the Multiclass Spellcaster Table on pg. 165 of the PHB -same number of Smite Slots as a 20th-level Paladin. Then a two-level Fighter dip to get Action Surge, and finish Paladin (Aura of Courage and Improved Divine Smite), for Paladin-11/Sorcerer-7/Fighter-2. The calculation is whether or not you think Action Surge (and a 2nd Fighting Style, and Second Wind) is worth losing the 4th ASI/Feat you'd get at either Paladin-12, or Sorcerer-8.
Favorite character I ever played was a 3/3.5 half dragon fighter 4/sorc 10/Spell Sword 10 with Arcane Strike and a Great Sword. (Yes, we did go into epic levels) She was a little bit of the melee equivalent of a Glass Cannon, because of lowered ho from la and all those sorc d4 HD, but being a half dragon she had 18 str and 18 cha; with Arcane Strike, I got +7/+7d4 on 5 attacks (and attacks of opportunity) so she hit like a mac truck. I've been looking at how I could replicate this character in 5e with Balders Gate 3 coming out and Ibsaw how Paladin Smite mechanically workes very similar to Arcane Strike, so a Dragonborn Paladin 6/Sorc 6+ with GWF and GWM.
1) First level: Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer. AC equals 13 + your Dexterity modifier, and proficiency in Con saves (for concentration) 2) Second Level Paladin. Go for a 1 handed Finesse weapon 3) Get your Dex to 20 asap. Your AC is now 13 (Draconic) +5 (Dex) + 2 (Shield) + 2 Shield of Faith (later Haste) + 5 (Shield spell if needed) = AC 27 4) Get Silvery Barbs and/or Lucky Feat, for those pesky Crits. 5) Make your DM cry with your Str 8, armorless Sorcadin 6) Oh, en make Cha your 2nd highest, for a juicy Aura of Protection at Pal6
I played a hard Sorcadin about 2017 in Elemental Evil, and (9:08) I got Paladin 2 - Sorcerer 7 - Paladin 6 as progression. Lvl 5 power spike was on Booming Blade + GFB, and it worked like a charm, especially when you Quicken this cantrip. Finally, Haste on lvl 7 plus Dimension Door lvl 9 was a really strong. A tip on the bad part of this build: mobility. Always have Misty Step, Thunder Step, Dimension Door, anything that teleports. Even Longstrider helps a lot. And be a nightmare to your DM! :) Also never OA, save your reaction for Shield and Absorb Elements.
You know that you HAVE to add at least 2 or 3 levels of Warlock (Hexblade with Pact of the weapon and leave STR to 13) right? I'm playing a Paladin/Warlock right now, started the campaign at 8 (with 5/3). She made a Conquest Oath that she broke the same day (because of "plot" reasons) to become a Hexblade Warlock and an Oathbreaker on top (before the campaign started). Now she is at level 11 (6/5), and in the next level she will "awaken" her Divine Soul Sorcerer powers all the way to 20. I can't wait to start Quickening Booming Blade and use my 3rd level Warlock slots for extra points. Saying that my little albino Tiefling that carries a huge greatsword in her back smiting anything that dares to get in her way is a BLAST to play, is a colossal understatement. Plus, double-smiting with both Divine and Eldritch Smites is just too OP. Btw, she made a new Oath (Devotion) because of how the campaign turned out (it was absolutely amazing when it happened), and using the GWM's extra damage with the Sacred Weapon is...yeah, I love it.
I run a pal6 (ancients)/divine sorc 1 of Chauntea, walking sorc the rest of the way (maybe grabbing 1 more pal for warding aura). FARMER PALADIN! Hoping to fix Icewind dale and build a magical greenhouse by the Lonelywood. Human, feat- I did Warcaster + pole arm master between lvl 1&4 with dueling (go spear/shield or staff/shield right now). I like having the 2 AC from the shield and +2 damage form dueling on the 2 main action attacks + bonus action attack (and polearm master often giving me the free OA-> booming blade; PAM is great with 1h polearms too). I usually cast bless on round 1 for our party (which helps with my concentration anyways) at this level; you don't have to wait until higher level to have effective spells too. (Quicken bless on round 1 when I get to 9 will be cool). Other wacky stuff: Twinned cure wounds or protection from evil can be kind of cool at lvl 9 (later, twinned haste or greater invis?) So overall yeah I agree with your the video build comments and how it plays out... The only major difference for me is the staff+shield with dueling & PAM. I get to tank/buff/heal/do good damage and take care of my squishy caster friends while being very hard to take down.
Great vid, but some truly awesome options didnt fit in. I belive paladin sorcerer deserves more time. Starting with metamagic extended spell, for just 1 point you can double the duration of aura of vitality healing for an additional 20d6. But you could also twin or extend more useful paladin spells, even low one. Sorcerer also has access to haste. I think twinned haste or extended haste is the way. So I would probably go for 11 level paladin for extra 1d8, and I would end up with pala11 sorcerer5 on level 16. Then you could do 3-4 attacks each turn with 1d8 bonus. Regarding to if big weapon or sword and board. If I would play sword and board, I would more focus on critical hits => do as many attacks as possible with advantage and on critical hit do the smite. So shield master would be an option to knock down enemies with bonus action. With big weapon I would probably go with -5/+10 and do attack as bonus action for crits or kills. Regarding to war caster, I think paladin is ok with high charisma for saving throws. Aura is really strong also team wise, so I would maybe prefere charisma over STR and CON. Item wise you could compensate with belt of giant strength. Hill would be fine. It could carry you from STR16 to STR21. You could also play low level paladin and go into casting. Then I would probably recommend paladin 2-3 and you are essentialy sorcerer with heavy armor (and shield) playing spells and cantrips. Also your spell list can be extended by some paladin spells. Another way to play it is oathbreaker. It requires DMs approval but theme wise it is great and damage wise it is broken :)
I am curently in a Manyshot/Minicampaign which is an experiment to make a sort of Boss Rush and the DM let us make crazy combos and powergame a bit at level 7 though he leveled us up to 8 after the first Boss, and I'm playing a Multiclass Paladin Sorcerer (which I like to call Sorladin, rolls better off the tongue). He's currently Paladin 6/Sorcerer 2, for Paladin I took Oath of Glory and for Sorcerer I took Draconic Bloodline (I picked these for a mix of lore and because of a combo I saw from DnD Shorts). In terms of race I picked Variant Human so I could pick a Feat and for the Paladin Level 4 I picked a second Feat, these are Metamagic Adept and War Caster, because I'm going with the longsword plus shield Build. I've been having fun with it really, I do end up spending a lot of my resources in the Fights, and that's gonna bite me in the ass in the next session as we have to fight a two Bosses together (one of which apparently turned into a Mammoth) and we had to fight four elementals previously so I only have 1 1st-lvl spellslot and 1 2nd-lvl spellslot. There's a second detail that I might add, the DM let us choose a Rare or less Magic Item as our starting Build and I picked the Sun Blade, so I've flavoured my Sorladin as sort of a Sun Warrior Paladin of Pelor with Gold Draconic bloodline. Btw, I like the idea of making a series of videos analyzing cool/unique multiclass combos. I don't know if you've made videos on combos other than charisma-based classes, but I have an idea that I'm planning to implement in one of my characters in a campaign who is a Tiefling Gloomstalker Ranger which I plan to Multiclass next level (I just got to level 5 now) into Twilight Cleric. For the time being, the combo I have made with him is making him a dual-wielder and using Zephyr Strike on the First Round, so I can move up to 70ft without triggering Oportunity Attacks and make 2 attacks (now at level 5, there would be 3), the last one with advantage to make an extra 2d8 of damage (one for the Gloomstalker feature, and the other one for the Zephyr Strike, which would be force damage).
Hear me out. I think a paladin 6 sorcerer 6 i believe is a 9th level caster so you would have 5th level slots. You could quicken fireball on yourself damaging enemies around you, then absorb elements with a fourth level slot. On the same turn you smite with a fifth level slot and you do an extra 4d6 fire and 6d6 radiant in addition to your normal damage. Not to mention any booming blade or green flame blade damageTaking into account the fireball you started with I think whatever boss the dm created is now well past the best by date.
Paladin is a race car and Sorcerer is the Nitro
To be fair... any charisma based full or half caster + sorcerer is putting a jet pack on any vehicle. Delicious metamagics
I made a class based on your Witch Knight build with a few modifications, and ended up with a Paladin caught twixt their divine patron and a Puppeteer style entity for our Strahd campaign show. Absolutely enthralling, and the DM is using the dueling patrons with a lot of enthusiasm.
Great advice, I look forward to hearing about this build.
Great story!!!
it's a great build, and these guides help organize the chaos into a good mechanical and rp character
Today, I finally snapped. I couldn’t, I just couldn’t hold it in anymore, dude-tyans ! I pledged for Sebastian Crowe’s Guide to Drakkenheim. CANT WAIT UNTIL THE RELEASE!
In a one shot I played a 12th level Crystal Dragonborn- 6 level Conquest Paladin, 1 level Hexblade Warlock, and 5 Divine Sorcerer. It was amazing.
Sorcadins are by far my favorite characters.
However, I take my 3rd level as Sorcerer which unlocks all the spells from the beginning to include GFB or BB earlier. You also get access to Bonus Action spells such as Healing Word and Reaction Shield.
It does slow down your 5th level jump a bit, but since Cantrips increase in damage with character level and not class level, you still get to do more damage, but you have 1 less attack to try to hit or smite with. That said 6th level gives that to you as well.
Here's hoping BG3 adds in GFB or BB...
Kelly really be serving looks, and he been on that for real
I wish one of my Players had chosen this when we started drakkenheim. Fire Genasi Sorcadin really fits sacred flame and falling fire and being the reincarnation of St Vetruvio: "You dare the audacity to speak for the flame? I AM THE FLAME!"
You could also do two levels of paladin, two levels of hex blade, and 16 levels of swords barred. this would give you eighth level spells, A ninth level spell slot, the ability to use your charisma modifier instead of strength, and Eldridge blast.
I’d love to watch a series of just unique multiclass builds that y’all come up with, maybe do a theme for the multiclass and then both of y’all come up with unique versions of the same multiclass either with different subclass choices or just feat choices in general
I second this. I would even take it further and say beyond just multiclassing I would love to see them make builds with any 2 restrictions whether it's class/class, race/class, or a specific subclass.
I third this, I have used their videos as inspiration to create some characters.
Fouth'ed. Love these build videos. :)
I've had the idea of hopping onto HeroForge and making a character for every single multi-class combo, and then displaying them all on RUclips.
Get ready for a Fairy Barbarian riding her Corgi shaped Steel Defender into battle, granting it advantage with Wolf Totem. Mounted Combatant feat as well. :)
I've always thought about building a sorcerer Rogue. So you could Quicken true strike. Sneak attack damage always and forever
My first character was a Dragonborn Vengeance Paladin of Bahamut with Divine Soul sorcerer mix. He wanted to get vengeance on the chromatic dragon's for enslaving his people, he later found out he actually came from a lineage that had the blood of a servitor of Bahamut in it.
@@silentrain713 Thanks for the compliment. Regarding your choice I would recommend to go with a gem dragonborn that can fly, with topaz having the strongest resistance. As smiting requires melee so flying enemies can be a weakness for Paladin. The Paladin choice is really up to you indeed if want to go more rp. All Paladin's are good pretty much.
Man , This conversation is wholesome
My explanation for how my paladin became a sorcerer was that everytime he smites a small amount of divine energy remains in his body and eventually builds up to the point that it becomes a divine spark and fused with his soul
That's a legit explanation as to multiclassing!
I have a Fallen Aasimar Twilight Cleric/Shadow Sorcerer combo who worships Scrion and Tannag as corrupted powers came about from hiding away from a holy war in the Shadowfell. My whole is sniping enemies from magical darkness (Eldritch devil's sight, spells sniper, and warcaster, feats) then rushing in to revive the tank. A few levels of Twilight druid for the Harvest Scythe used on magic missiles makes for a great heal/damage combo with a silvery barbs/icingdeath frost or entangle to lock enemies in the darkness up close.
Yo that's so cool!
Mine is a protector Aasimar, the multi class just made sense
I plan to make paladin-sorcerer dragonborn in Baldurs Gate 3. Dragonblooded sorc so in my headcanon his draconic heritage would awaken at the third level due to the trauma caused by the mindlfyer parasite in his brain.
My fave is doing divine soul with my pally. Being a martial with spirit guardians is so great.
Having a played a divine soul sorcadin myself, I gotta say I completely agree. One of my favorite PCs hands down, if not my personal favorite.
I got to live that fantasy of being a Dragon Disciple from Pathfinder/Neverwinter Nights by being a sorcadin of Bahamut. 😎
Divine Soul Oath of Devotion is just an absolute monster. War Caster, Sentinel, Spirit Guardians...throw in a Quickened Lightening Lure or Booming Blade and the character is just so much fun to play.
that's... Busted
I did the same thing with a Hexblade/Swords Bard build. Stole spirit guardians using my magical secrets. And I wasn’t disappointed lol.
My sorcadin was Oath of the Watchers/Clockwork Soul, and that is ALSO nasty.
You absolute demon, I love it
A watchers paladin aberrant mind sorc could be a great "corrupted hero" character.
It can also be the opposite if you go further into paladin instead of sorcerer. You dabbled in things, went 'oh hell no' and then fight to protect everyone else from what you saw.
Oooh, I've been waiting for this one for a long time!
I just _need_ to ask though: can we expect a Sorlockadin build anytime in the future?
That'd be a pretty short video. "Refer to our How to Build a Paladin Sorcerer Multiclass in Dungeons and Dragons 5e video, but add one level of Hexblade warlock at character level 2."
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Why just one in Warlock though? Second gives you Agonizing Blast and one other invocation, third gives you Pact of the Blade, fifth gives you Eldritch Smite and 3rd level spells. The more Warlock levels you have for this, the more Sorlock shenanigans you can utilize. Not to mention you can use your Pact Magic spell slots for smiting, as they come back on a short rest.
@@MadnessOpus Both Sorlock and Padlock are decent multiclass builds, but if you go Sorlockadin, you need to focus on one or two of the classes to avoid diluting yourself. The reason to dip warlock is the Charisma attacks. Any more than that is getting greedy.
That's a yes for a great video on a great multi class.
That's a no on the hat, Kelly. Just...just no.
I would love to play a dex based paladin of Bahamut that finds out he’s blessed with draconic sorcery, for a higher unarmored ac and more hit points as a sorcerer. Sort of roam around and burst people and sneak around like a rogue but still be bulky and hard to hit like a paladin.
Oooh I LOVE THAT IDEA. This is so awesome. It would totally fit a paladin devoted to bahamut
glad i'm not the only person who things that you don't need to be a rouge to be a dex biased character
Why go unarmored? Just start with Paladin and strap on that plate.
@@Hyde_Hill because draconic sorcerer gives unarmored defense thanks to dragon scales. 13+dex, that’s why I like the idea of going dex based.
You still need 13 STR to multiclass into/out of Paladin though. :/
Reminder that Divine Smite only lets you smite with up to a 5th level spell slot… BUT, you can turn 8th and 9th level spell slots into sorcery points and make 2-3 5th level spell slots in order to have 3 huge burst damage charges for any combat you need
you can't convert spells higher than 5th level into slots
@@mrr2135 I’m not sure what you’re trying to say but you CAN turn high level spell slots into sorcery points. Level 8 slot = 8 sorcery points
@@juantinajero9211 i miss interpreted, i thought you were saying to burn paladin slots into points to create 8th and 9th level spell slots !! which i was referencing that you can't create slots greater than 5th level
@@mrr2135 yeah no, what I was trying to say is that you can’t create spell slots higher than 5th as a sorcerer AND that the highest level you can smite is 5, so it meshes perfectly
@@juantinajero9211 It's 4th level, actualy. But yeah
Awesome, you guys finally made a character I played from lv1 to lv20 on an amazing campaign, Michael Titanborn, who at the very end became a literal demi-god. Great job as always.
Nice
I’m currently playing a vengeance 7/divine 3, and we are going all 20.
Having played all the way through, do you have any must do’s & don’ts to set me up at higher levels?
@@kamaronkent6888 Absolutely, my DM is awesome and worked closely with us to make custom magic items, if you can get something similar, that would help you a lot, as an example, you might have only 15str but he gives you a belt of giant str, so now you can focus on your CON and CHA. Also, Spirit Guardians are your best friends in almost every fight, and if you are playing with the expanded spell list, fire shield is awesome, overall try and use things that will deal damage over a period of time, instead of 1 burst like fire ball. Your criticals should always be smites, and against bosses you will always have advantage (vow of enimity) or flanking.
@@kamaronkent6888I play a straight-up Level 20 Totem Warrior and he's an absolute unit.
This is actually a great build for taking Metamagic Intiate. It minimizes the loss of Sorcerer Levels you don't take by giving you 2 more Metamagic Choices and Metamagic Points and just generally makes you even more versatile with what you can do with the spells you have.
source a din? ive been calling it sor cadin all this time
I haven't played, but I wanna do a 2Paladin + 1HexBlade + MaxSorcerer with metamagic feat. Full CHA powerhouse from lvl 5.
Sorcerers are THE casters cause of metamagic. Shits broken, not to mention Divine Soul or Clockwork. _GGEZ_
I want a Fey blooded sorc, but we aren’t getting that, closest thematically is wild magic.
But I’d love that multi with Ancients Paladin
Aberrant Mind.
I know the default 'flavor' is obviously aberration themed but it is extremely flexible! And, the abilities can 100% fit a fey theme.
Psionic Spell feature let's you swap all those spells for what you want: "The new spell must be a divination or an enchantment spell from the sorcerer, warlock, or wizard spell list."
Notice it says basically any Enchantment spell. So load up on your charms and suggestions and etc.
The 6th level ability gives protection from psychic damage, but also fear and charm. That's standard fey themed ability if I ever saw one.
Even if you stick with it til 14th level, all the abilities is Revelation of Flesh can be easily themed as Fey abilities. Seeing invisible things? Easy. Flight? Fairy wings. Water breathing swimming? That fits fine. Fit through small spaces? Just narrative it as rapidly growing shrinking or whatever.
You want a Fey blooded sorc? Run it by your DM. I'm old school, and need to learn 5e...dont let rules stop you.
@@avgadam4289 if I had a DM I would. I am the DM. I don’t get to play much lol.
Why wait untill 7th to take sorcerer? I'd take it early and get green flame blade and booming blade when you only have one attack. Plus you can grab shield when you still only have chain armor and a ranged attack cantrip like fire bolt. If you actually play the early levels, then you don't want to wait for the split.
6:35 Actually, if you go with 2x15, 1x13, 3x9 (+1 to any) and chooses standard human with +1 to all stats, you get both balanced and strong combination with no negative ability scores. You don't get other cool racial abilities, but with taking half-feat at lvl 4 for this one spare point left from point buy, you are practically becoming good at everything you need and more!
They posted this video at the perfect time. Just in time for me to go to work. :p
I’ll get to watch it tomorrow.
Character concept: V. Human who became a Devotion Paladin of Mystra (Goddess of Magic) to remove his burgeoning Wild Magic. But Mystra doesn't remove and instead only represses them so the man can learn to control them over time (hence the Sorcerer multiclass at later levels).
That's the backstory I was just thinking about! It's a great one!
Spoiler alerts warning ⛔️ if you haven’t played the drakkenhime module please don’t read this I’m a level 7 divine sorcerer thinking of dipping into pally and hexblade warlock we just finish the black ivory inn mission 😱 you guys are evil it’s ground hog day on delerium if this is a bit of a spoiler please delete the comment love from Vancouver bc
I would say for the paladin subclass Oath of the Ancients works really well mechanically
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I just started playing D&D and it was recommended I play a paladin so I did so I didn't know what I was doing. Want to say I appreciate all your videos and help me so much. And at this level I decided I wanted the multi class and then I watched your video. And I totally worked in the Divine Souls into my backstory that my God was happy with me and bestowed on me power of my own to wield
Oh how I wish I could get Spirit Guardians on my paladin/sorcerer. I went clockwork soul for armor of agathys (and some other stuff) to buff my mount since I'm playing a mounted combatant. Skipped war caster and just use subtle spell when I need to
I'd love to see a ranking of character builds that are counter-intuitive, like an artificer with a negative INT mod. Most of their spells are buffs or support, and more importantly, Flash of Genius now becomes a useful debuff since it works on any creature, not just allies.
I'm a bit late getting to this video but it sounds like a good combination that I might have to try sometime. Another great alternative if you only want a 2 level dip into a martial class is to get 2 levels of Fighter to pair with Divine Soul Sorcerer. That action surge can really make a huge difference.
The other benefit of going to 6/7th level Paladin - The Find Steed+GF/Booming Blade Interaction. Find Steed states that “you can make any spell that targets only you also target your steed,” and GF/Booming have a range of “Self,” so when you cast GF/Booming Blade, it also affects the Steed’s natural weapons - which have to make an attack as part of the spell!
That is extremely debatable. Cone of Cold has a range of "Self" but it does not target only you, it targets all the creatures in the cone. Thus most DMs should rule that BB/GFB do not target only you thus do not affect the Steed.
Yeah range and targeting are different things. Booming blade clearly targets the enemy you attack with it.
Haste targets you, as it gives you the effect, and would give haste to your steed as well.
Personally I’d grab Metamagic Adept for a free feat. With your Paladin Aura and maybe War Caster you should be fine for concentration checks. With Metamagic right out the gate you can Quicken Spell Bless and still Attack. Also it works thematically as you feel a magic inside you start to awaken upon gaining your Paladin magic
Unfortunately, Metamagic Adept has a prerequisite that level one paladins don’t meet: the Spellcasting feature.
@@alexanderwyattberg if your dm is generous and gives you a free feat at level 1, play as an Aasimar since they get the light cantrip at level 1. Yes racial cantrips count as spells in this case
@@zach415 Racial cantrips don't count as the Spellcasting feature unfortunately. As a DM, I would probably just allow them to grab War Caster without the prereq
I really wanna see the Dungeon Dudes talk about the (in)famous *"Sorhexadin."*
I was torn between going this way or fighter/sorcerer for that sweet sweet action surge.
The hybrid of 6 Paladin, 5 Sorcerer, 9 Hexblade... That's the 20th level character i'd want to play. Would probably go 6 pally, 5 hexblade, 1 sorc during the actual levels of play normal games get to.
Gonna comment my simple build before watching vid, see if it matches close. 6 lvls Conquest Paladin, 3 lvls Sorc (and rest Sorc) for Shadow Blade x2 and Spiritual Weapon combo. You could go a different Oath and take Divine Soul Sorc instead to get Spiritual Weapon it'll just take longer to get. At Sorc 5 you can take Spirit Guardians instead if multiple enemies are close, or if in dim light you can stay Shadow Blade.
Ok now watching vid to see how poor my build is compared to theirs lol
I played an ancients paladin7 divine soul 5 and if a Paladin feel like a sports car, the sorcerer levels feel like that same sports car with Nos and a turbo charged engine. It’s so much fun
Ahaha! Mindreading me or what? I was JUST about to sit down and create either a dragonborn pure sorcerer or paladin, maybe muliticlass either way 😂 Im thinking of having either a Green chromatic dragonborn, child of a blue and yellow dragonborn. Wanting to meet up with his parents after long time no see. Using and updating the Yellow coastal salt dragon statblocks from old Dragon magazine 245 and lore in that Tiamat have bred more chromatic dragon types which again gave rise to yellow, purple, orange dragonborns aswell. My Green dragonborn would have condensed salt breath attack but also a sorcerers dragon path with lightning, since one of his parents is a Blue dragon. Blue+ Yellow = Green you know. Tiamat could intentionally have color blending teaching as part of cross breeding her chromatics or just stand alone. WotC take note! I want my orange, yellow, purple ( not fungi deep ), gray and brown minis! 😁
Honestly, i love your content guys but of all the combos you could do, this one needs the least explanation. There simply is no going wrong. Neither with the choice of subclasses (i just love my Aasimar oath of devotion/divine soul) or the split. Once you got to 5/5 you can literally burst the damage of a level 20 fighter. And after that the world is your oyster. Do whatever feels good to you and you will still have an AWESOME character.
I know my build Pal15/sor5 is opposite of "ideal" but do I care when I can dish out ludicrous damage and just refuse to kick the can? (Arguably the most important is the second part)
It just is a beatiful combo to learn multiclassing imho as it is ultra forgiving and you always end with a solid as gold character.
the only issue with that burst is that you quickly run out of gas, whereas the fighter can just short rest once and be ready to go again. it’s absolutely impressive, just not quite the same.
also, “once you hit 5/5” my dog the game is over. level 10 characters are already very strong, and games tend to peter out around then. this video is about what to do before you get to that point
@@Hazel-xl8in yeah that burst is really short lived but let me tell you it feels AWESOME! Seriously my paladin/sorcerer is the most fun I've head. And it's great to just have that "insane mode" stowed away. I know, I can only use it in serious fights and use my resources sparingly in all other encounters. But good lord, it feels good when you let loose.
It's almost an anime moment. Supersayan, ninetails transformation, bankai. Take your pic.
To be fair I am mostly playing mid-high level campaign. I know that's not what most prefer, but I've done a few campaigns to twenty.
We're at level 13 now, sor 5 pal 8. 5/5 was when this build really gets going. But no matter how you get there, you will have a great character. I actually picked the wrong route and multiclassed to early.
I turned sorcerer at level 3 because the campaign we were running was brutal enough, I couldn't plan ahead that was my second character that campaign. I've been constantly running out of spell slots for healing or just buffing my AC. So I dipped 2/1 then 2/2 then 2/3 all the way to 2/5 simply because I had made the mistake to dip early but even then it was a good character.
It worked. It's a character you cannot go wrong with. No matter in which stage of the game. You won't believe how many times having haste "early" at level 7 proved to be a lifesaver. (Haste to this day is a lifesaver. Despite me using it wrong all the time. I can booming blade on the haste action instead of doing a regular attack)
I really like the 11/9 split because Improved Divine Smite is excellent and you still get 5th level spells from the Sorcerer.
Vengence Paladin/Divine Sorcerer and Spirt Guardians is what my current multi shot DM has said ruined his fun. It's crazy powerful. I highly suggest 6 Pally/14 Sorc. Currently at level 12 I have to take 28 damage to even have to roll on a conc check and all my save are very respectable without much anything but Arua
in the curent game in in rn, one player is oathbreaker, divine sorcerer palidin, he has a 30 AC can do 200+damage in one turn, and is the most strongest character in the table
Remember when paladin was a holy warrior. No, neither do I.
Getting some Fate/Stay imagery of a full plate greatsword paladin crouching into a runner stance and casting haste before launching themselves into combat. Brb gonna build a character
do paladin sorcerer warlock...is a great combination but is hard to pull out because you need a lot of little things to understand.
I disagree on this getting 6 level in paladin...
you need sorcerer before for healing...I will do 2 level paladin then 2 sorcerer so you have smite and sorcery points you want to get 3 level of sorcerer for metamagic but you don't need it right away and maybe a 1 level dip in hexblade warlock...
when you have 2 levels of paladin with smite
2 level of sorcerer to sorcery point to use to create spell slot you are set...
1 level warlock give you shield early on and 1 more 1 level slot at low level 2 if you do a 2 level dip... best should be 3 for invocation and improve pact weapon
hexblade warlock paladin sorcerer...
I'm trying to build this one but I have a lot off issues
race is a aasimar protector
class I started with paladin oath of ancient
stat I use standard array giving 15 cha on +2 for race 14 STR 13 Con 12 Dex 10 Int and 8 Wis +1 for the race bonus
now for multiclass I want to go hexblade Right away even before the second level paladin for eldlich blast and shield and so i can use Cha to attack
then it come the fist problem...I go for sorcerer divine soul for support and healing and spell slot or i keep going with paladin and hexblade
the landmark i want are paladin smite and aura of protection
hexblade agonizing blast and pact of the blade and improved pact weapon
sorcerer i want the sorcery point and a mid level spells slot so before a short rest I can use the warlock slot for sorcery point and then I can use those to metamagic or to create low level spell slot to smite
you get a lot from sorcerer divine soul you can use quicken spell and twin spell to double your spell use... quicken a bless or a Eldrich blast and then attack and use smite... if you get level 5 as warlock hexblade you can double the smite using divine smite and Eldrich smite together...
Remember when Charisma was the dump stat? Now I wonder if maybe WotC over-compensated? I plan on using CON based sorcerers going forward - but I don't think that would hinder this particular build much.
im running a Paladin 2 Sorcerer 10. Hill Dwarf Draconic Sorcerer, Tough & War Caster.
A shit ton of HP, +6 in CHA, and fire elemental affinity. I use illusionist bracers to get two attacks with green-flame blade for 2d8+6 +1d8+7(7 str) + any smite damage per swing. An absolute nova lad
I literally thought of this earlier today and made a build of Divine Soul Sorcerer and Oath of Glory Paladin.
Aasimar race, starting with paladin, then sorcerer and the first feat I take is metamagic adept. Time to Twin Guiding Bolt or Quicken Guiding Bolt and then Attack!
I made a pyromancer paladin built around mainly sorcerer who's while thing is being main tank and a caster.
Thanks for the "Sorcadin" guide. Divine soul is nice, but clockwork is stronger. My ranking:
Clockwork > Aberrant > Divine Soul > Shadow Magic > Other
Clockwork - x2 the number of your spells (more combat potential)
Aberrant - x2the number of your spells (more social potential)
Divine Soul - it's good when you just want to play the default paladin with a couple of new options/ priest spells are very organic for a paladin
Shadow Magic - same as the previous one, but if you want to play default evil paladin shadow magic is your choice (hexblade still better)
* I took into account the subclasses level benefits)
THANK YOU! While DSS is great for sorcadin, it feels like so many people just forget that other sorcerer origins exist.
@@The3FightingDragons Tasha sorcerer subclasses rly OP. The main problem of sorcerer is a small number of spells. WoC create 2 new subclass and just doubled spells num.))
The ability to choose from a list of a wizard, sorcerer and sorcerer is stronger than school restrictions. Especially considering that the default list of additional spells already has nice priest and bard spells.
LMAO! I literally was preparing to make a 'Sorcadin' character, then I see this uploaded! What a coincidence!
Kelly's fashion/accessory choices today are chef's kiss. That hat tho!
I created a paladin /sorcerer build 5 months ago with the 8th oath of the Guardian/ 12lvl Divine Soul.
Why not start with one level of Sorcerer and save the free feat for something else?
Having played this, here's my insights on what you could've done:
1. you could've dipped hexblade 1 to align your attack/cast stats if not using a 2-hander.
2. you could've started sorc 1 for con save prof and early access to shield, guidance, etc. the tradeoff here is no heavy armor but imo medium armor + dex is better anyway. 1 less ac but +2 initiative, dex saves and dex skill checks. extra attack comes 1 level late but that isn't a long wait and you get booming blade scaling at level 5 to tide you over.
3. imo the pal 2 + sorc x version manages resources better as you attack less (have 1 less attack to smite on) but you have more spell slots to smite with. quicken haste or quicken booming blade gives you a 2nd/3rd attack.
4. divine sorc is indeed the best pick for the sorc subclass here unless you want to have some fun with wild magic. for paladin subclass, i'd pick conquest simply for the guided strike channel divinity. or vengance for vow of enmity. taking conquest up to 7 is fine. another pick for 7 is oath of watchers to increase the action economy of the party. oath of the ancients imo is overrate as it's resistance to magic dmg. it's not advantage to saves.
5. subtle spell can be considered for metamagic if you wanted to go sword and board without the warcaster feat tax. not all spells have S components without M anyway.
This has to be my favourite multiclass. Something with it just give me good feels (except for the fact that it's a CHA-heavy class, but that's a known problem and something I need to work on...)
Then next is the Bardladin...Paladard... bard + paladin
I think joining those two S tier classes complement each other so well... one has high damage and tanking and the other has awesome reactions (lorebard) and bonus actions and both use charisma, also, the full caster spellslots levels of the bard really help the smiting
Add a booming blade (magic initiate) and Maul with crusher feat and the heavy armor AC and is a win/win
booming blade is unfortunately not on the bard, paladin, or cleric (through blessed warrior) spell lists. you’d have to play something like a high elf or take the magic initiate feat in order to make it work
also what reactions does the bard get? i understand the lore bard has cutting words, but if you haven’t banned silvery barbs then it’s also on the sorcerer spell list. sorcerer also gets shield and absorb elements to enhance your front line potential, as well as counterspell if you take it that far.
@@Hazel-xl8in
Yes, with a feat to get booming blade, also find familiar since bards are ritual casters, bards get less cantrips than other fullcasters, so its good for them.
Silvery barbs is op too, and yes, lore bards using cutting words is the best reaction for the bards to help allies, alternate with silvery bards for action economy, and lore bards get aditional magical secrets
People sometimes think bardic inspiration is a lowkey feature because its basic use is nit that great, but bardic inspiration realnuse is for subclass features. In this case one of the best ones: reaction to help and save allies: cutting words reduce the attacks on allies, and silvery barbs can make enemies fail saves. Is about get them right.
Also, with additional magical secrets you could actually choose cantrips, not recomended but it works too
Pd: i didnt say it was better, just that they should talk about the paladin of aphrodite (bard+paladin)
Would love to see expanded spell list for all sorcerer subclasses!
Done already
Kelly being a fashion king.
I have played it several times, and loved it. I even went so far as to take a 2 level dip into Hexblade. Charisma attack stats, 2 extra 1st level slots on a short rest, and a couple invocations. At level four with 2 Levels Pali, 1 level Hexblade, 1 Level Sorc and you can level up based on story progression the rest of the way. Yes it feels Gish and it is amazing.
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My personal favorite combo is a Drow Oath of Devotion/Aberrant Mind follower of Elistraee. Who uses a shield and longsword.
Like for the mention of Best Godess (/Girl) Elistraee :D
If you had 21 levels, where would you put your extra 1?
First time I played DnD as a player I was already deep into build crafting and since I wanted to make a tank for our party I ended up making Sorcadin without even knowing it was already a thing. But I did 1 level of Paladin then 1 Sorcerer, then Paladin to 6.
Heavy Armor 18 AC
Defense +1 AC
Shield +2 AC
'Shield' spell for the average big hit.
Silvery barbs for the occasional critical hit or saving friends.
+ Dodge or Protection from Evil and Good
+ Divine soul sorcerer's 'Favored by the gods' for the saving throws.
Angry, spikey haired boy screaming ensues.
My current character is a divine soul sorcerer/glory paladin, and he is one of my favorite characters that I've ever played. Getting the combo of a quickened guiding bolt and two attacks with higher level smites makes me feel like an absolute beast, especially against undead, where radiant damage is very effective.
You could play a Sorcadin...or you could play a SORLOCKADIN!
2 levels of Paladin, we only need smites!
5 levels of Hexblade Warlock, take Improved Pact Weapon, Thirsting Blade, and Eldritch Smite! Double smites, and our melee weapons and spells use the same score!
5 levels of Divine Soul Sorcerer! By total level 12 you'll get Spirit Guardians!
Now here's the tricky part. You can go the rest of the way in Sorcerer for higher slots and better spellcasting, OR you can go to level 9 Hexblade for Banishing Smite. Banishing Smite, Eldritch Smite, Divine Smite, and Booming Blade! The ULTIMATE SMITE!!!
Forever dm here. I have a paladin / sorcerer I gave my party to help out for a while, and they liked him a lot, however I wanted to tryout a paladin / warlock when we started Curse of Strahd. After seeing how overpowered this npc was I wanted to give the former npc back to the party rather than over play the latter npc. My party said please no, let us keep the paladin / warlock at least until we finish Strahd. Both class mixes play very well, and I have to admit I didn't like paladins much until 5E. Good video, thanks.
Should probably show the Paladin Sorcerer at my table this video. I’m a big fan of starting campaigns at 12 and sort of “mirroring” the Drakkenheim campaign were they need to think in turns of HEY TEAMWORK and WHAT CAN THE DM THROW BACK AT US. Just because you’re a high level doesn’t mean you’re unstoppable at my table
I was gonna make a divine souls sorcerer who has a alternate personality who's a oathbreaker paladin his spell list are duality spells heal harm bless bane inflict/cure wounds
The sorcerer is timid and scared and the paladin is angry and violent it should be good in our campaign
Each level I roll a d 20 high and I'll go another sorcerer and if low its a paladin to see which side is more dominant that level
I'm running this multi class now! Just need a few more levels of each and it's gna be smashing everything
There is a campaign called The Odyssey of the Dragonlords, that om currently playing. The sorcerer subclass in the book is the Demi-god subclass. It allows you to make weapon attacks with Charisma instead of strength. So I did that for Sorcadin, and so far so good.
So it’s hexblade’s feature, but on a Paladin? That sounds….. a LITTLE op. Just a little bit lol
@@_Janservice_ Its on a sorcerer
@@trappyboi8678 true, I misspoke. But it’s still a feature from hexblade getting thrown onto a sorcadin. Still sounds stronk af
@@_Janservice_ Hexblade feature on a sorcerer, so not as op.
Paladin 6/ Sorcerer 6 is my absolute favorite build in the game. It cures the action economy woes of the paladin and turns smite output up to 11. It also makes it a proper half-caster instead of the truncated burst damage fighter it is in the phb.
My two favorites are Oath of Glory/Divine Soul and Oath of Conquest/Storm. Both of them have fantastic combos, but the latter is an absolute monster in combat. Quickened Lightning lure into shocking grasp is the most satisfying "GET OVER HERE" move I've ever killed a mob with.
I actually did Vengeance/Clockwork for my Sorcadin, the extra spells feel really good, and my party is fairly low when it comes to magical power so focusing more on the arcane aspect of sorcerer is very helpful. I haven't really missed Spiritual Weapon since my bonus action is pretty much always being used. I'm also a Sword and Board type since I'm the only frontliner so my durability ended up being a big concern. The burst that I get despite being a shield user is extremely satisfying.
You know what the best weapon for weapon and shield paladin with arcane dip? Staff of power. Yes she works with polearm master and gives a +2 to attack AND ac.
My Pal2/Divine Soul Sorc is staff and board with PAM and a SoP. It is exactly as awesome as you think it is. Plus, when I crit, I can throw another 2d8 force damage on top of my smite with a single charge from the Staff 🙃
Another great feature of starting Paladin instead of Sorcerer is getting 10HP+con at level 1 instead of 6HP+con like you would with sorcerer. It’s only 4HP but at early levels you really want as much as you can get.
Just for fun, I built Darth Vader as an Oath of Conquest / Aberrant Mind. It's a lot of fun throwing people around as a Bonus Action before you cut down anything that hasn't run away.
telecinetic feat?
@Julian Mehlmann Absolutely, also as a Warforged (more machine than man). There are a lot of great spells for the Force, (reverse gravity is a favorite for hallways).
@@jessegitchell8114 also spiritual weapon(conquest) could substitute sabrethrow.
@@jessegitchell8114 Thunderwave for force push .chill touch maybe for force choke
@@julianmehlmann2996 "Obi-Wan has taught you well."
My favorite one is Animate Objects, to just pelt the enemy with any loose objects in the room. Personally, I use Hold Person for force choke. Auto crit on a Paladin/Sorcerer is insane.
I recently discovered the awesome combination of Paladin-Barbarian.
I'm currently a 8 Totem Barb/4 Ancients Paladin. I orginally was going for Barb/Fighter, but decided to be more original. I don't do a lot of Battle Magic, however Reckless+DivineSmite+GW Fighting + GW Master + Rage = Clean Sweep. I'm going to go Barb9 next for Brutal Crit. I rarely Channel Divinity so I more often use it as a bonus spell slot. As for Spellcasting, I mostly use it for non-combat stuff, for example I can 'Smell Magic'.
A lot of people said it'd be a bad idea, but I encourage you guys to try it!
Another pretty decent choice is Clockwork soul sorcerer, since the swap out is one of the few ways to get armor of Agthys on a sorcerer, and upcast it many times. For extra funzies, cast find steed first and dual cast it on you and your mount before sending him into battle as an ice-splotion.
Yup. Did this with oath of conquest play since they get AoA. Works great.
AoA + Aid + Compelled Duel is absolutely just bullying the DM, lol so much fun.
I’m starting Strahd soon, and hoping the DM will let me waive the multiclass rules to build a dhampir dexterity sorcadin. Plan is to start with sorcerer for mage armor and shield, then 6 levels of paladin before 3 more of sorcerer. It’s a shame the campaign ends at level 10!
On the other hand, the new find steed means at level 10 I can upcast it for a winged steed, never possible under 2014 rules!
I have been playing a sorcadin for 2 years from lv 1-17 and gotta say, it’s amazing. However, I was surprised to not see a mention of spirit shroud. It’s a great spell that is especially useful for a sorcadin that has the spellslots to upcast it :)
Im Dah Unicorn (nice name)
Iv been playing a vengeance 6/ divine 3 for about 6 months and we are going all the way to 20.
Since you played so deep, what other do’s & don’ts would you advise?
I am the main melee fighter, currently have the feat war caster.
Why shroud over guardians?
now I have a question, though it might not relate to the video, what to do if you like the arts in a DnD book, and want to use it in your DnD campaign, but don't like the story and everything else?
Do you still buy it??
Look the art up online and print it out.
I disagree with going all the way to paladin 6 or 7 without dipping into 1 level of divine soul sorcerer. Doing that gives you a few cleric spells, and some cantrips, which Paladins don't get. (unless you take the Blessed Warrior fighting style, which isn't an ideal fighting style for the paladin most of the time.) It does put you 1 level behind for getting your ASI and extra attack, etc; but being 1 level behind isn't too bad, and in my opinion, it's kind of worth it.
I’m currently playing as a young Protector Aasimar who’s a 6th level Vengeance Paladin and 3rd level Divine Soul Sorcerer in the Crucible of Fate tournament here on RUclips. The build is just starting to come online as power increases. My character (Sir Daelon Dawnblaze) has killed two powerful monsters so far (CR16 & CR17).
Half-Elf have a great array for this kind of character. +2 CHA +1 STR and +1 CON. You can have the same ability scores and even switch the skill proficiencies for High Elf cantrip and get Booming Blade. Sure, you don't have a 1st level feat, but it's still a good build. And the stats lets you get a 16 in all important one without being forced to get 8 in WIS, INT and DEX
I tried to do that but the cantrip you gain has to be based on your intelligence stat
@@Ardith50 There's no DC and no spell attack with Booming Blade so even if it's Int based, the stat has no impact on its effectiveness
I really hope you guys can do a 2024 rule update for this multiclass setup. I don't want to lose my Aasimar Paladin that can cast Guiding Bolt, Spiritual Weapon, and Spirit Guardians. Nothing comes even close in terms of character flavor for me 😭
oh yes, the combination that i am convinced is the reason paladin need pure strength and not "strength or dex" to multiclass. I do love the Sorcadin for pure that power fantasy, like yeah those anime power moment are also the reason I don't play them often but you can't say they aren't a blast.
My paladin/sorcerer is a Reborn Vengeance/Shadow Sorcery, with a few allowances from the DM for Thaumaturgy and Spirit Shroud (renamed Shadow Thaumaturgy and Mantle of Death), and it's amazing even at only 5/5 as of right now.
His rough backstory is that he used to be a champion of the god of death, but centuries ago was almost killed and sealed himself in a hidden tomb, only to awaken now with no memory of who he used to be. This has led to some fun bits, for example where, as a side quest (the others couldn't make it to the session to continue the main story), some of our party went to investigate a mysterious new cult. The eldritch being they worshipped was contacted first by the bard, who then informed the Hexblade and my character how to do it. Upon my character entering the dream-space to converse with it, the eldritch being almost panicked, saying "You? How are you here?! Please, I don't want any trouble. If my cult is interfering with your business, I'll tell them to move somewhere else."
How he plays is he spends 2 sorcery points to cast Darkness on himself that he can see through, he gets advantage on attacking everyone while everyone else gets disadvantage on attacking him, and just wrecks house. What's even funnier is that, as the DM's unique setting is where a technologically advanced world that had lost its magic and monsters merged with a young world that still had it, we ended up going up against exo-suit soldiers with infrared goggles to see through darkness. Until our druid asked, "Since [my paladin/sorcerer character] is technically dead, would he not show up on infrared?" Which I LOVE as a terrorizing tactic, because Darkness pops up, they put on their infrared goggles, and my character is still gone, but the enemies are still getting hit!
Not really on topic, but i love your hat
58 sec ago. Let's go noti squad!
I like Paladincerer (pal-uh-DINTZ-ur-ur). Their background says they're from Pittsburgh.
As I was watching, I was thinking "Take Paladin to Level 7, because you're of course playing a subclass that gets something sexy at Level 7; then pile on seven levels of Divine Soul Sorcerer; Favored By the Gods at Level1 alone is almost worth the dip; which puts you at Level 10 on the Multiclass Spellcaster Table on pg. 165 of the PHB -same number of Smite Slots as a 20th-level Paladin. Then a two-level Fighter dip to get Action Surge, and finish Paladin (Aura of Courage and Improved Divine Smite), for Paladin-11/Sorcerer-7/Fighter-2.
The calculation is whether or not you think Action Surge (and a 2nd Fighting Style, and Second Wind) is worth losing the 4th ASI/Feat you'd get at either Paladin-12, or Sorcerer-8.
Favorite character I ever played was a 3/3.5 half dragon fighter 4/sorc 10/Spell Sword 10 with Arcane Strike and a Great Sword. (Yes, we did go into epic levels) She was a little bit of the melee equivalent of a Glass Cannon, because of lowered ho from la and all those sorc d4 HD, but being a half dragon she had 18 str and 18 cha; with Arcane Strike, I got +7/+7d4 on 5 attacks (and attacks of opportunity) so she hit like a mac truck.
I've been looking at how I could replicate this character in 5e with Balders Gate 3 coming out and Ibsaw how Paladin Smite mechanically workes very similar to Arcane Strike, so a Dragonborn Paladin 6/Sorc 6+ with GWF and GWM.
1) First level: Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer. AC equals 13 + your Dexterity modifier, and proficiency in Con saves (for concentration)
2) Second Level Paladin. Go for a 1 handed Finesse weapon
3) Get your Dex to 20 asap. Your AC is now 13 (Draconic) +5 (Dex) + 2 (Shield) + 2 Shield of Faith (later Haste) + 5 (Shield spell if needed) = AC 27
4) Get Silvery Barbs and/or Lucky Feat, for those pesky Crits.
5) Make your DM cry with your Str 8, armorless Sorcadin
6) Oh, en make Cha your 2nd highest, for a juicy Aura of Protection at Pal6
I played a hard Sorcadin about 2017 in Elemental Evil, and (9:08) I got Paladin 2 - Sorcerer 7 - Paladin 6 as progression. Lvl 5 power spike was on Booming Blade + GFB, and it worked like a charm, especially when you Quicken this cantrip. Finally, Haste on lvl 7 plus Dimension Door lvl 9 was a really strong.
A tip on the bad part of this build: mobility. Always have Misty Step, Thunder Step, Dimension Door, anything that teleports. Even Longstrider helps a lot. And be a nightmare to your DM! :) Also never OA, save your reaction for Shield and Absorb Elements.
You know that you HAVE to add at least 2 or 3 levels of Warlock (Hexblade with Pact of the weapon and leave STR to 13) right?
I'm playing a Paladin/Warlock right now, started the campaign at 8 (with 5/3). She made a Conquest Oath that she broke the same day (because of "plot" reasons) to become a Hexblade Warlock and an Oathbreaker on top (before the campaign started).
Now she is at level 11 (6/5), and in the next level she will "awaken" her Divine Soul Sorcerer powers all the way to 20. I can't wait to start Quickening Booming Blade and use my 3rd level Warlock slots for extra points.
Saying that my little albino Tiefling that carries a huge greatsword in her back smiting anything that dares to get in her way is a BLAST to play, is a colossal understatement. Plus, double-smiting with both Divine and Eldritch Smites is just too OP.
Btw, she made a new Oath (Devotion) because of how the campaign turned out (it was absolutely amazing when it happened), and using the GWM's extra damage with the Sacred Weapon is...yeah, I love it.
I run a pal6 (ancients)/divine sorc 1 of Chauntea, walking sorc the rest of the way (maybe grabbing 1 more pal for warding aura). FARMER PALADIN! Hoping to fix Icewind dale and build a magical greenhouse by the Lonelywood.
Human, feat- I did Warcaster + pole arm master between lvl 1&4 with dueling (go spear/shield or staff/shield right now). I like having the 2 AC from the shield and +2 damage form dueling on the 2 main action attacks + bonus action attack (and polearm master often giving me the free OA-> booming blade; PAM is great with 1h polearms too). I usually cast bless on round 1 for our party (which helps with my concentration anyways) at this level; you don't have to wait until higher level to have effective spells too. (Quicken bless on round 1 when I get to 9 will be cool). Other wacky stuff: Twinned cure wounds or protection from evil can be kind of cool at lvl 9 (later, twinned haste or greater invis?)
So overall yeah I agree with your the video build comments and how it plays out... The only major difference for me is the staff+shield with dueling & PAM. I get to tank/buff/heal/do good damage and take care of my squishy caster friends while being very hard to take down.
Great vid, but some truly awesome options didnt fit in. I belive paladin sorcerer deserves more time.
Starting with metamagic extended spell, for just 1 point you can double the duration of aura of vitality healing for an additional 20d6. But you could also twin or extend more useful paladin spells, even low one.
Sorcerer also has access to haste. I think twinned haste or extended haste is the way.
So I would probably go for 11 level paladin for extra 1d8, and I would end up with pala11 sorcerer5 on level 16. Then you could do 3-4 attacks each turn with 1d8 bonus.
Regarding to if big weapon or sword and board. If I would play sword and board, I would more focus on critical hits => do as many attacks as possible with advantage and on critical hit do the smite. So shield master would be an option to knock down enemies with bonus action.
With big weapon I would probably go with -5/+10 and do attack as bonus action for crits or kills.
Regarding to war caster, I think paladin is ok with high charisma for saving throws. Aura is really strong also team wise, so I would maybe prefere charisma over STR and CON.
Item wise you could compensate with belt of giant strength. Hill would be fine. It could carry you from STR16 to STR21.
You could also play low level paladin and go into casting. Then I would probably recommend paladin 2-3 and you are essentialy sorcerer with heavy armor (and shield) playing spells and cantrips. Also your spell list can be extended by some paladin spells.
Another way to play it is oathbreaker. It requires DMs approval but theme wise it is great and damage wise it is broken :)
I am curently in a Manyshot/Minicampaign which is an experiment to make a sort of Boss Rush and the DM let us make crazy combos and powergame a bit at level 7 though he leveled us up to 8 after the first Boss, and I'm playing a Multiclass Paladin Sorcerer (which I like to call Sorladin, rolls better off the tongue). He's currently Paladin 6/Sorcerer 2, for Paladin I took Oath of Glory and for Sorcerer I took Draconic Bloodline (I picked these for a mix of lore and because of a combo I saw from DnD Shorts). In terms of race I picked Variant Human so I could pick a Feat and for the Paladin Level 4 I picked a second Feat, these are Metamagic Adept and War Caster, because I'm going with the longsword plus shield Build. I've been having fun with it really, I do end up spending a lot of my resources in the Fights, and that's gonna bite me in the ass in the next session as we have to fight a two Bosses together (one of which apparently turned into a Mammoth) and we had to fight four elementals previously so I only have 1 1st-lvl spellslot and 1 2nd-lvl spellslot. There's a second detail that I might add, the DM let us choose a Rare or less Magic Item as our starting Build and I picked the Sun Blade, so I've flavoured my Sorladin as sort of a Sun Warrior Paladin of Pelor with Gold Draconic bloodline.
Btw, I like the idea of making a series of videos analyzing cool/unique multiclass combos. I don't know if you've made videos on combos other than charisma-based classes, but I have an idea that I'm planning to implement in one of my characters in a campaign who is a Tiefling Gloomstalker Ranger which I plan to Multiclass next level (I just got to level 5 now) into Twilight Cleric. For the time being, the combo I have made with him is making him a dual-wielder and using Zephyr Strike on the First Round, so I can move up to 70ft without triggering Oportunity Attacks and make 2 attacks (now at level 5, there would be 3), the last one with advantage to make an extra 2d8 of damage (one for the Gloomstalker feature, and the other one for the Zephyr Strike, which would be force damage).
Hear me out. I think a paladin 6 sorcerer 6 i believe is a 9th level caster so you would have 5th level slots. You could quicken fireball on yourself damaging enemies around you, then absorb elements with a fourth level slot. On the same turn you smite with a fifth level slot and you do an extra 4d6 fire and 6d6 radiant in addition to your normal damage. Not to mention any booming blade or green flame blade damageTaking into account the fireball you started with I think whatever boss the dm created is now well past the best by date.