Train Horn "STUCK ON" for over 4 minutes causing confusion at a Railroad crossing for drivers
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- Train Horn "STUCK ON" for over 4 minutes causing confusion at a Railroad crossing for drivers in Kokomo, Indiana on 2022-10-13
4 mins is nothing really. In Town there is a railroad yard. few months back during middle of night, a newer engine at least for the area has exterior cab locks. so crew locked themselves out but the was only first issue. some reason there was some kindof fault on the engine which triggered the horn to go off and remain on for over 40 mins while a person could drive down and actually unlock the train so the crew could shutdown the horn.
Now that's having a bad night at work. Lol
How big of an air tank do they have... Geez
@@AndToTheRepublic4WhichItStands They have huge tanks, 500 plus gallons, but a 6 cylinder compressor will put out 300+ CFM. Horns are only about 70 CFM.
@@AndToTheRepublic4WhichItStands Engine was probably running.
4 minutes is a lot I don't know what you're talking about
That’s why I make sure to always know where the horn cutout is. This situation only needs to happen to you once for you to never forget that lesson. Lol
I didn't know you could cut it off the air?
Horn relay was locked out unfortunately
@@wargamz9051 Was going to make the comment about the horn cut out. ~> Retired Loco. Engineer
Still takes a few minutes to get to the cutout. 1st flip the back wall switch if that is defective Grab earmuffs and head back to the car body to cut the air.
@@ebenezersasquatch4597 yep I'm looking at the horn circuit breaker on the back wall of my cab now 😁👍 try resetting that and if no good then time to go for a walk to the air cock ...
That engine's one ditch light is out. Hope they know about it
Back in the 70s we got a cab ride from the city I live in to a siding near my grandparents place where the were taking the siding. The lead engine already had 3 of the crew so they told us to ride in the trailing unit, a WM GP35. As soon as we left town they blew for a crossing and the horn stuck. It stayed on all the way into the siding and when we went up to thank them for the ride they were all fighting with it and pretty pissed off at it. About half way across the field to my grandparents house it finally went off. Good times!
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Was is a chessie system train you guys were riding?
@@kawaiikindcake1023 Yes, it was.
Imagine this happening in a really bad storm how many people would think it's a tornader whistle
tornader whistle? you mean tornado siren?
Nope that’s a darn nader whistler he talkin’ bout
@@mine098able nader whistle that is.
😂
You could use a train horn as a tornado siren in some small railroad towns
That would've been pretty funny 💯
Well at least nobody can say they didn’t hear a train coming 😂
Yessss I'm glad I wasn't down at the intersection when he was having the problems. Lol
Lmao🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's rolling round the bend
@@GameWizzard2843 And I ain't seen the sunshine since... I don't know when!
That must've felt awkward for the engineer
Yesssss
LOVE YA VIDS CRAFTYFOXE and yeah it must be train an and crew to
Yea and hello craftyfoxe
Like being locked in a car with the alarm going off.
Tbh if it was a Friday I’d open the cab window, sit back and just let it rip 😂
The way how the horn was blowing for so long, it sounds like there is a siren going off for those traveling on the highway. 😂
I’m a siren enthusiast and was wondering it probably sounds like a 3t22 lol
I went to the great western steam up and the heisler was running excursions when the whistle got stuck for about 20 seconds, was one of the loudest but yet most amazing moment of my life
My wife and I were once staying in a vacation rental in Ogden, Utah near the train station. During the night I was awakened by a loud horn. I was afraid it was our rental van and when I went to check I realized it was coming from the railyard. It blared for close to an hour. At first I was hoping it wasn't an emergency signal but ended up being really annoyed. This video helps me to see the situation in a different light. Thank you for posting this!
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I love that station. There is a really cool museum dedicated to John Moses Browning upstairs, complete with alot of his original prototype's.
@@Quadrenaro I love that double engined Union Pacific train they have
Similar situation happened when a Pan Am train with CSX power had the horn stuck and the worst part was, it happened at 3 in the morning
lol
😂😂
Most of our crews have no idea where the horn cutouts are on our locomotives. Had a mag valve fail once and it was blowing for 20 minutes minimum, police were called and everyone in the city was trying to figure out what was going on. Lmao
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20 minutes that's too long and that's very annoying to hear horn that got end up being stuck. Don't diesel locomotives like that have a air compressor to the horn that's installed on there, it wastes air until the horns can't blast any sounds anymore the air compressor has to refill air in the tanks again until it gets full that's what boats and ships have they got a air compressor into their horn and their horn doesn't get stuck or does it I really hate to know it.
I heard of people’s car horns getting stuck.
Norfolk Southern? More like Norf**k Southern.
@@orionharmon6017 locomotives have very powerful air compressors that are more than capable of completely filling both main reservoirs even with the horn stuck on. Most of the time it's just a pipe coming directly from one of the main reservoirs, then goes to a valve (electric in the video) or a manual one and then to the horn. Most locomotives also feature a horn cutout valve that can be closed when you need to make sure the horn doesn't sound or if it fails.
Lmao, this is like that one story of Thomas where Gordon the Big Engine's whistle is stuck on until someone hammers it down!
Yeah lol
*"Take him away,"* he bellowed, *"and stop that noise!"*
I remember it well! Gordon was such a miserable arse!
That was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this
Actually a fascinating sound.
For a while it’s obviously annoying and assaulting my ears; but all of the sudden it becomes a wash of a kind of leering harmony.
Reminds me of Scott Walkers later stuff honestly.
The worst part is he had his right blinker on the whole time
Had this happen in a diesel truck once haha, super glad we remembered about the compressor release button so we could keep it from going too long
I was in a car wreck back in 2014, and the horn ended up getting stuck. Now the sound is forever stuck in my head and I have arthritis in my tailbone 😅
Now this will be stuck in your head for the rest of your life
You know with the weather in the background, I can totally see people thinking that’s a tornado siren going off
Nice catch RRTS and that was a 1st for me seeing this happen. I'm sure at some point anything's possible to malfunction. I'm glad for their sake it stopped. Thanks again for sharing this video with us along with your time and effort! Cheers from Delmar, Delaware.
Thank you Shawn
Goes to show how powerful those compressors are to keep that constant air pressure. Obviously nothing compared to the brake system, but still impressive compared to a little 6 gallon in your garage.
The horn normally runs of the same Resoviour as the brakes.
"It isn't wrong" chuckled [insert loco number here], "but we just don't do that"
This happened around here a few weeks ago as well, we have 2 sets of tracks near my house, one is 200 feet from my window, the other is about 700 feet. The further tracks had a train come though about 3 am one night and the horn must have been stuck because it stayed on the entire time, I could hear it coming miles away and heard it as it he continued off into the night, he must've woke half the county up lol
At least we know it can keep a steady air supply to the horn!
That's what I thought too. Lol
This reminds me of that Ttte episode with Gordon's stuck whistle, even tho steam and diesel engines have very much different forms horns/whistles.
I thought of that episode the second I read the title 😂
"it isn't wrong, but we just don't do it."
We've had this happen once in my rural city. Thing is, our police harass trains everyday. They don't like the 5 minute law to block roads, they don't like the horns at night. Happened in 2016ish I believe, one night it got stuck on coming from the farms into the city. Police ended up parking on the tracks a few miles down, flashing lights to stop the train. Once the police discovered it was stuck on, they called local dispatch, state troopers in. Gave the engineers a half hour limit to shut it off or shut down completely. Took more than that, so handcuffed by troopers and detained until someone else showed up from the company. Company was ticketed by troopers for disturbing the peace, and unsafe operation of a motor vehicle. (most states don't specify what exactly is a motor vehicle aside from saying that anything that has an engine or motor and operates on public property)
@@thomaseriksen6885 I guess so
That's stupid. Let's stop the train and cause it to stay in town instead of just letting it through. I wouldn't have stopped for those cops.
@@jaberosier9853 rural towns be like this
Engine and motor is the same thing I believe I don’t think my car has a engine and motor or a motor but no engine… 🤡
I'm amazed it being a small town no one sued or got revenge on the town after the fact. Thats a big set of balls even by pig standards to pull that shit.
A person finally gives in and pushes the 'red easy button.' You never know what you'll get: in this case, 'the horn.'
The next video should be on how train horns work, how the compressors work etc
@The Railroad Tie Spiker I really like when you record the animated voices and dial tones that say over the radio that the crossing is activated or deactivated.
Yes it's from the radio I hook up to the one camera
This happened one day where I live. the train blew for the crossing like normal and the horn got stuck on the last blow. It was stuck from the first crossing in town all the way out of town. dont know an exact time for how long it was stuck
sounds painful
Sir Topham Hatt: Take him away, AND STOP THAT NOISE!
Few years back CN train 116 had a horn stuck on traveling all the way from South Bend to Mishawaka IN. Long after he had cleared town, could still hear that K3LA blaring
Inventor: "I built a locomotive that screams."
Locomotive: "AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!"
Tester: "Why?"
Locomotive: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!"
Inventor: *thinks for a moment*
Apparently doesn't know where the shut-off is for the horns but I guarantee everyone in town is awake now LMAO
I had an older friend "Big Bob" that worked his way up from a teenager shoveling coal to engineer for CSX..... He couldn't hear very well and would exclaim "Big Bob bout deaf in one ear can't hear out of the other".....
In India, Whether it's a passenger train or freight train the locomotives give a honk for 4minutes continuously to leave the station or the yard.
It's a rule over here
Seems extremely over excessive
@@Bray91 it is indeed
india moment
Don't people climb on top of the trains and walk on the tracks over there?
@@cartler No people no longer climb on the roof of the trains due to the extensive electrification work by the railways and the railway is also trying to fence the railway tracks
i bet road drivers won't attempt to beat the train with such a big warning now
Yes very true
I live in a town with a lot of rails throughout the city and every month a train horn gets stuck I swear, its usually for like 5ish minutes that it blares and is always at the middle of the night
Theres a valve on every air horn pipe to shut the flow off in case of something like this happening…
It’s just one cut off valve. Unless you want to cut out all auxiliary air.
Well i noticed something was up when only 1 of the 2 lights at the bottom of the train was working.
That has nothing to do with the horn. Its just a burnt out bulb.
I think what he's getting at is a lack of maintenance.
@@stumper661 it sure is
i never saw this type of crossing before its so cool you picked up the authorization too holy crap i love this this is so cool.
I cross it everyday, down in Kokomo
this happened next to our house easter morning. my dad worked for BNSF as an electrician and when it happened walked up to the locomotive and told the conductor I work at northtown just give me a second and pulled the fuse for the horn. conductor was shook
Interesting considering there is no horn fuse. Lol
@@ChiefCharlieHorse how do you know that? Modern horns are electronically controlled. If it has an actuator and a power source, it’s going to be a fused circuit.
@@danielhandler6646 it’s a breaker, not a fuse. I know because I’m a machinist and I use them everyday lol
@@ChiefCharlieHorse well you could have made that clear initially, instead of derisively posting like the guy answering deserved disrespect. Try being a better person when you’re posting.
@@danielhandler6646 it’s not that serious. You’re the only one with hurt feelings because you were wrong.
Reminds me of that one episode of thomas the tank, where Gordon goes flying through the station while his whistle is going off uncontrollably
Same bro
I do believe air horns that get compressed air from the engine have valves that are designed to "fail-loud" over "fail-quite" if control of the valve is lost.
After a while it doesn't even sound like a horn anymore.
I always wonder what would happen if a train had its horn stuck.
To be honest, there is no confusion with motorist .....they are just going about their day like it's nothing as normal
I live in a small town in Kern County, California named Boron, California/Desert Lake, California which is in the same area in the same boundaries, and there's only three RXR crossings near it, one on the other side of town, one that's literally 0.25miles away from my house, and one just a little bit of out of our town limits which leads to Edwards Air Force Base. And the horn started to blow from the RXR crossing by Edwards Air Force Base all the way to the other side of town which is a 2 to 3 hours bike ride, so about 40 to 50 minutes of a drive. So I'm going to guess it's about 15 to 20 miles that it was blowing.
damn that’s the desert all right
Train horn: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Mexican Boris: It’s okay honey! It’s just a scary movie!
we had this happen locally and the train was creeping down the track at 20mph. Could hear is for like 3 hours.
Dang those people would be annoyed, And I can’t believe that it stayed for 5MIN
I seen a train go by, traks about a mile and a half away. Coldest days of winter. Horn stuck open as long as i could hear the distance.
I bet that's loud right there in the cab. Can't imagine. I don't like that signal setup either.
I could imagine this was due to a corroded foot switch. If that were the case I would think there would be a circuit breaker to cut the circuit then just use the hand valve. Apparently when you shut the cut-off valve it disables the entire horn system both from foot switch and hand valve.
Since when do they have foot switches? Thought that was only on P32ACDMs and Japanese trains?
The way how the horn was blowing for so long! It was like when the sirens were going off! 🚨! The train horn would be going off when somebody tripped the button
Ditch light out, horn stuck on. This one is next to be sold off and then rent foreign power to switch the local.
Well this duo of locomotives is troubled isn't it? The Dash 9 has a ditchlight that's burned out and the ACe's horn sticks! NS might wanna take this pair to a place they can have light repairs.
And you noticed that the other ditch lights won't stop flashing
Do dash 9's computer control the ditch lights? Newer GE's the computers drive the DL's. i'm going to check a print when i go back to work on Tuesday
@@theodorethompson9032 that would be interesting to know if it does.
@@therailroadtiespiker just did some wreck repair on a AC4400 and one DL didn’t work cause a card in the box was bad. GE always makes things more difficult than they need to be…
Maybe if they moved over to some HV contactor switches to handle the flashing they won't have problems anymore.
At this rate it seems like computerized *ditchlight flash cycles* are more complex than gyralights.
Imagine seeing that on the nose of an NS AC44.
I heard, while in Indiana, a train horn stuck while crossing the street. It stayed on until the train disappeared into the distance. This was in the middle of the night. I wonder if this locomotive was the one stuck, that I heard. I was staying in Kokomo, Indiana, that time.
It might have been. Lol
That was a one of a kind catch!
Lol and I thought I was waisting my time till the horn stuck....
when you start and stop the video in a way to mimic the 2 long 1 short 1 long horn soundings
Not sure what you mean? Explain a little more. Lol
At least it was a K5LLA horn the best train horn there is
Yes
Also the loudest
Not to mention you can hear every note of the horn.
@@Wolfgodmak yes you can
Yes, a 'Stuck Horn' is a 'Once in a Career' Event. The 'Cut Out Valve' is accessable from the back side of the hoghead's control panel.
re "Road Railers" what a headache, waste of time, and piece of junk but we used them for a very short time in So Calif then handed them off to a local 'Short Line' railroad.
I don't know what year they ended up on the scrap metal pile but it wouldn't be soon enough for me(unless you're into 'Overtime')Thanks for the video.
We have two Road Rails here in Indiana a westbound in the morning and a eastbound in the evening.
@@therailroadtiespiker Thanks for the inside information. I hadn't seen them in many years so it's interesting that they still exist. Also, go to my channel and check out my 'About'
@@wes5150. I believe we have the last two Road Rails left in the country.
@@wes5150. very interesting My great grandma was almost killed working the Nickel Plate yard in Brewster Ohio back in the 30s she was crushed between a car and a door way in the shop.
This happened at a museum excoursion that was taking place near me. We were close to the yard when it got stuck and I don't think they knew of or had a cutoff. As they just killed the prime mover and let it run out of air. . lol. It took much longer to drain down then i would have thought.
These compressor tanks must be absolutely ginormous to run a horn like that for 5 minutes
Big enough to feed the brakes on a hundred cars several times over, and then some!
Compressor has to be able to maintain 60cfm with plenty of room to spare per FRA
That locomotive needs help.
Only one ditch light working.
FRED is on the front coupler and the horn gets stuck.
Time to take it to the fix shop.
Well it was the rear DPU that's why the Fred is on the front of the engine.
and one of the ditch lights wasn't working.
The fireman’s side ditch light is out on #9917. Precision Scheduled Railroading indeed!
Yep
@@therailroadtiespiker fireman? This is a diesel locomotive, there is no fireman. Just say the left ditchlight.
@@trainlover123trainsrock it's still considered the fireman's side but I think of it as the conductor side now.
@@therailroadtiespiker I just think of it as the left side 😆
@@trainlover123trainsrock he actually makes it less confusing by saying that. left ditchlight could be the locomotives left ditchlight, or the left ditchlight from our perspective
This spot reminds me of Route 28 in Salem NH with the Manchester & Lawrence branch right next to the road. Of course that line is a rail trail now, and the last time it saw trains this big was probably in the 1960s I would guess.
It's awesome to see they're still using this line.
This is exactly whistles and sneezes but with diesels
train horn went into tornado siren mode
Me when I stub my toe and drop my cup of coffee on my foot: 8:50
I didnt know those horns were so strong that they could make enough wind to almost knock a camera over from that far away!
Now I didn't think of that one, I should have said that in the video. Lol
Oh that’s why the camera is shaking? Would never think of that.
I was confused till I noticed you sped it up.
Legend says the horn is still on
It’s almost like that time in train sim world where when the horn sounds when u try to do it again it won’t sound but u can hear it from the outside view but not from the train but also from away from it
Typical TSW, glitchiest abomination of a game. That's why I stick with TS Classic.
NS 1100 had some of its solenoids sticking for what sounds like a KL5A.
I bet the driver was annoyed to hell having to hear that for that long,
Gordon: "It isn't wrong, but we just don't do it!"
Hell of an air compressor on that thing to last 4 minutes lmao
I had the samething happen to me when I was driving an International semi truck. After about 15 seconds of fiddling with the cord, I smacked the side of valve and it shut off.
I have a nathan airchime kl3 in my truck the same thing happened to me in the middle of downtown Pittsburgh luckily I have a ball valve to cut air to the horn but it blew until I was safely able to pull over and climb underneath to cut air. Turned out the return spring in the teather valve snapped and jammed the valve open
is the train turning right or do they need to tell maintinance to replace the left ditchlight on that unit?
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Honestly thought it was one of those gnarly farts from the angry grandpa
new guy: how long do I blow the horn?
Engineer:Yes....
new guy: Stop blowing the horn!
Locomotive: No.
Has this happen in my big truck one time…..was awesome rolling thru a neighborhood to a job site to where I could get a pair of vice grips to kink off the air
Yep same here My chain snapped off when I was blowing the horn at the shop to let another driver go by luckily the mechanic walked out and fixed it. Lol
Wow. Major Malfunction!
Yes it was
Boy wouldn’t you love to live next to that track!
Guy trying to talk on the radio while horn is blaring in his background 💀🤣
Thats sounds like the main membrane may have broke loose or became stuck open. You'd think they woild have a horn/ air supply cutoff in case a valve does pop.
On a K5LLA to. Probably one of if not the loudest horns
when they said horn blowing continously long tone over the crossings, I don't think they had this in mind
It's funny but when they go across that intersection they lay on the horns for about a minute.
I was more surprised to see a train hang a left at the intersection! 🤣
I had my electric solenoid freeze open once when it was really cold.Luckily I have a shutoff valve in the main line.....
I filmed several years ago a NS train with his horns really lagging when he honked them
@@therailroadtiespiker Ironic that the horns I have originated on an NS loco...😆
Never mind. It’s their EOT
All they had to do was follow the damn train 😂😂
Subbed. Cool video. What song is in intro of your channel? Love it.
The song is Stop Look and Listen recorded back in the early 1930s.
@@therailroadtiespiker love it, thank you.
What do you expect? The railroads canned most of their mechanical teams as part of PSR... broke down, defective and disgusting is the new normal.
Yep
They damn sure don't wash thoes engines too often ethier
I have to hear that horn just about 20 times a day!!!! Probably more! And I’m close enough that the trains shake my house lol
This happened here in Cleveland it went for a half hour..
Hell 4 mins is nothing, i could listen to that thing all night
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