Over covid I individually boxed Christmas decorations, I enjoyed myself immensely, joke was I was obsessive, but last Christmas I had the last laugh because I was so organised. I may have to start putting all my embroidery tools into boxes 😂
I just love your channel. You're an incredible teacher, and I've learned so much. I became interested I bookbinding a couple months ago, and your vids have been my top go-to resource to figuring stuff out. I appreciate that you show different methods, even if they aren't your usual way, you don't edit out mistakes so we can see how to fix them, and you don't shy away from learning new things and changing your mind. Also, not only are your videos well-made, informative, and wonderful to watch just from a watching a skilled artist work perspective, but I also find them uniquely relaxing. I guess it's just the soft music and a calm voice talking about something that interests me, but somehow I always feel less stressed and more ready to try something new afterwards, so honestly, thank you for sharing with us!
I really enjoy your videos, and particularly when you show different ways of doing the same thing or using different tools or tricks to achieve the same end. Magnetic corner clamps or pieces of tape for example.😃👍🏻 Way too many “how to”-videos pretend like there is only one way of doing a thing. 😏
Darryn- I find it helpful to make a small gage for more accurate measurements. I take a strip of single thickness board 12x2 cm and glue up half its length with a second strip of single board 6x2cm. I then cover 3cm of the single board end with my book cloth or cover paper. This one tool measures added lip required and cover material allowance. I also prefer the card stock lamination technique. Looking forward to seeing how you cover- especially in box interior. Nate
For spacing things I do this, such as in clamshells or portfolios. But for these simple trays, everything is right there and I don't have to worry that I grab a gauge of a different thickness.
I'm here for my love of books... But as a master in my own trade tinsmith/roofing/sheet metal work, I see so many similarities... But the major reason, is to watch a master of his trade at work!
Hi this tutorial is awesome! What kind of paper board are you using to make the boxes? A material list in the description would be so helpful! Thanks :))
This a great video, and I would like to make some boxes in the future. I was also wondering, if there is any bible paper supplier in the U.S. you would recommend as I am planning a project that will involve this kind of paper.
Thin paper is often called bank layout. I doubt there is anything retail US letter size, but a paper merchant that supplies the printing industry will have light weight paper. Most likely you have to buy a mill ream and have it cut to size (it might cost something like $30 for cutting). You end up with all the paper. It might mean a minimum investment of a couple hundred dollars. Hope that makes sense.
How is the folded box weaker than the other options? Seems to me that a folded edge is at least as strong as a glued one. Unless the corners are not being glued?
I once attempted to make a box by scoring and folding board following Zeier's instructions in his book. Maybe I was using too thick a board but the resulting box looked horrendous. The edges where the folds were ended up with chamfers/radiuses where the board folded, and despite best efforts to remove layers of greyboard the little gluing tabs he tells you to leave showed through and looked really bad. My curiosity was satisfied but i won't be trying it again.
Yes, the corners are never as sharp. I forget who, but one author suggests putting string/twine in the groove left by the cut/score. And yes, those little tabs do show. Just look at old boxes made this way. You can usually see the pieces of paper. I'll do at least one video on this to satisfy other people curiosity. I've already done it too:)
@@DASBookbinding I was using 2.5mm greyboard because that's what I had. I can see it having better results with 1mm or similar but at that point I think you would have a very flimsy box. Another method of tray construction I've seen but never tried is where all four walls are made of a continuous strip that is covered beforehand (I think) then scored where the corners are and wrapped around the base. I have a hinged lid box made by Vintage Paper Co in orkney that is constructed this way. It only cost £25, so I can see how they would have had to economise on time as much as possible. This strikes me as a stronger method than the scored box that is still faster. The joint of the ends of the strip is positioned at the back of the box where it gets glued to the spine of the case so it's not very visible when complete.
I line boxes with felt all the time and have shown that in other videos, and probably in next weeks too (or velvet). Not sure what you mean "spine top inside".
i cannot recommend your videos enough! i wish i had the time to make some myself. you are a world treasure!
Thanks! I love your work too. I'd love to visit one day.
Over covid I individually boxed Christmas decorations, I enjoyed myself immensely, joke was I was obsessive, but last Christmas I had the last laugh because I was so organised. I may have to start putting all my embroidery tools into boxes 😂
I just love your channel. You're an incredible teacher, and I've learned so much. I became interested I bookbinding a couple months ago, and your vids have been my top go-to resource to figuring stuff out. I appreciate that you show different methods, even if they aren't your usual way, you don't edit out mistakes so we can see how to fix them, and you don't shy away from learning new things and changing your mind.
Also, not only are your videos well-made, informative, and wonderful to watch just from a watching a skilled artist work perspective, but I also find them uniquely relaxing. I guess it's just the soft music and a calm voice talking about something that interests me, but somehow I always feel less stressed and more ready to try something new afterwards, so honestly, thank you for sharing with us!
I think relaxing is the best compliment I’ve got. Couldn’t we all do with being a bit more relaxed.
I really enjoy your videos, and particularly when you show different ways of doing the same thing or using different tools or tricks to achieve the same end. Magnetic corner clamps or pieces of tape for example.😃👍🏻 Way too many “how to”-videos pretend like there is only one way of doing a thing. 😏
You are the ultimate instructor. This video is very inspiring. I’m not able to create this week but I will keep your video saved for….later. Thank you
Darryn- I find it helpful to make a small gage for more accurate measurements. I take a strip of single thickness board 12x2 cm and glue up half its length with a second strip of single board 6x2cm. I then cover 3cm of the single board end with my book cloth or cover paper. This one tool measures added lip required and cover material allowance. I also prefer the card stock lamination technique. Looking forward to seeing how you cover- especially in box interior. Nate
For spacing things I do this, such as in clamshells or portfolios. But for these simple trays, everything is right there and I don't have to worry that I grab a gauge of a different thickness.
I like the laminated bottom method. Great for making cigar boxes with laminated bottom and sides.
These look like lots of fun. I’m definitely going to give them a try!
I'm here for my love of books...
But as a master in my own trade tinsmith/roofing/sheet metal work, I see so many similarities...
But the major reason, is to watch a master of his trade at work!
I've got a wooden small parts organiser that I need drawers for. Think I'll have some fun making them like this.
🙃👏 Thank you - very clear explanation.
Thankssss!!!!
Hi this tutorial is awesome! What kind of paper board are you using to make the boxes? A material list in the description would be so helpful! Thanks :))
This a great video, and I would like to make some boxes in the future. I was also wondering, if there is any bible paper supplier in the U.S. you would recommend as I am planning a project that will involve this kind of paper.
Thin paper is often called bank layout. I doubt there is anything retail US letter size, but a paper merchant that supplies the printing industry will have light weight paper. Most likely you have to buy a mill ream and have it cut to size (it might cost something like $30 for cutting). You end up with all the paper. It might mean a minimum investment of a couple hundred dollars. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you!😊
How is the folded box weaker than the other options? Seems to me that a folded edge is at least as strong as a glued one. Unless the corners are not being glued?
To fold these boxes thinner board is used and by scored, I mean partially cut, and usually no adhesive in the corners.
Where do you buy these handy corner magnets? Brilliant
iBookbinding
A fourth option could be double-walling combining methods one and two, so there’s as much overlap in the joints as possible? 🤔
Saving double walls for another day
Yes it is called lap joint. We use this method at our bindery. It’s a bit of a headache to get the measurements right but quick if you practice :)
I once attempted to make a box by scoring and folding board following Zeier's instructions in his book. Maybe I was using too thick a board but the resulting box looked horrendous. The edges where the folds were ended up with chamfers/radiuses where the board folded, and despite best efforts to remove layers of greyboard the little gluing tabs he tells you to leave showed through and looked really bad. My curiosity was satisfied but i won't be trying it again.
Yes, the corners are never as sharp. I forget who, but one author suggests putting string/twine in the groove left by the cut/score. And yes, those little tabs do show. Just look at old boxes made this way. You can usually see the pieces of paper. I'll do at least one video on this to satisfy other people curiosity. I've already done it too:)
@@DASBookbinding I was using 2.5mm greyboard because that's what I had. I can see it having better results with 1mm or similar but at that point I think you would have a very flimsy box.
Another method of tray construction I've seen but never tried is where all four walls are made of a continuous strip that is covered beforehand (I think) then scored where the corners are and wrapped around the base. I have a hinged lid box made by Vintage Paper Co in orkney that is constructed this way. It only cost £25, so I can see how they would have had to economise on time as much as possible. This strikes me as a stronger method than the scored box that is still faster. The joint of the ends of the strip is positioned at the back of the box where it gets glued to the spine of the case so it's not very visible when complete.
Idea - could one tray/box be lined with thin felt and used to spine top inside?
I line boxes with felt all the time and have shown that in other videos, and probably in next weeks too (or velvet). Not sure what you mean "spine top inside".