Wow, this game is gorgeous. I love the lush, futuristic environments. That leafy autumnal forest is particularly stunning. And that is one fearsome looking shopkeeper!
A few years ago at Midwest gaming classic in Milwaukee someone had planet harriers set up to play and Made sure to play through it a few times that weekend because I knew it would probably be my only chance to play it. And I've never seen it again
I do hope you get a working Hikaru board sometimes, since I know you'd treat it well and try to keep it in working order and preserved. As for Planet Harriers: I played it a handful of times at the mall in spring and summer '01. It was one of the last new games I played there before heading off to college, at least that I remember. I think I only went there once more with a friend on a visit home in the years between then and when they closed the mall itself (River Falls Mall in Clarksville, IN) and turned part of the section where the arcade was upstairs into part of a Bass Pro Shop. They had this, two Star Wars Racer Arcade cabs, and single-seat deluxe cab of Nascar Arcade, which dad loved. So, I think I might have got more Hikaru exposure than most, but I didn't have a ton of chances to play them because I was working part-time in the spring and full-time in the summer. Planet Harriers was my favorite of the 3 I got to play, and I had hoped later that it'd come to the XBox, I think based on some rumors on GameFAQs message boards or something; however, obviously that never happened. I would certainly like to play this in completely working form again: it's not my favorite arcade game or anything, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. Besides that, I'd love to play a Rapid River cabinet again. Again, not the best game, but quite a uniquely fun game.
I played this once in Las Vegas in 2001. Possibly in Sega's Gameworks, or some other arcade in the city. But I remember being pleasantly surprised that there was another Space Harrier game because Space Harrier was one of the first games I ever played. The Master System was my first console. Anyway, in Planet Harriers, I chose the Guitar guy and it was really fun. I always wanted SEGA to port this onto a modern console one day. Or maybe have it as a playable game in a future Yakuza/Like A Dragon game.
Man...I've been waiting for this system and the other Sega PC-Based systems (prior to 2015) were fully emulated. I remember playing the Hikaru skating game in the arcade, hating it (when compared to Tony Hawk 1 or 2) but still wanting to eventually learn how to get better at it.
Holy crap. I have been trying to remember the name of this game for years! I remember playing this at an indoor soccer arena where I also found The Ocean Hunters for the first time.
@7:45 Game Galaxy Arcade in Smyrna, Tennessee. I’ve heard tell that it’s confirmed to be at Galloping Ghost, as well. But I know how you feel. This game has been a pocket obsession of mine for over 20 years. Never saw it in Japan, and have never seen it in the U.S. Hasn’t stopped me from collecting all the Arcadia magazines it was featured in.
Same here VGE. I only played Planet Harriers once at an establishment called SportsWorld in Paramus, NJ. Interesting game and spent a few dollars on it. But never seen it out in the open again. Nice choice bro. 8^) Anthony..
Great job at raising awarness towards almost extint games. I hope that Sega brings it back eventually, maybe even as a surprise inside the Yakuza games, at Club Sega? After all, that's the only way to play a certain Motor Raid at home
Space Harrier is beloved to me. Planet Harriers is one of the few games on my "I need to play this before I die" playlist, even though (besides the perspective) it embodies precisely 0% of what I love about Space Harrier. Graphically and hardware-wise this is a bit of a puzzler. It looks like something the Dreamcast or maybe Naomi could handle easily, aside from maybe the filter effects you mentioned. A lot of it seems kind of low-poly, specifically the scenery.
@@VideoGameEsoterica Wow, yeah! Just watched a video of that on real hardware! I can see why you'd love to get that one into the collection! Looking at Hikaru's specs, it's got *two* of the 200MHZ SH-4 CPUs from the Dreamcast. And a different but more advanced graphics chip. So I think it's a little bit like the Saturn situation: the extra performance is obviously there but you'll need to do some tricky extra work for it. As opposed to the Naomi, which is just a Dreamcast with slightly beefier specs, that will deliver better performance over the Dreamcast for "free."
Wow, I'm lucky to have played this game, it was at a location of an arcade franchise we had in SoCal called "Nickel! Nickel!" you'd pay an enterance fee and all the games could be played with Nickels. It was AMAZING and I miss it SO MUCH. An absolute BLAST to play. I actually found it in several arcades back in the day. I'm surprised and saddened it's going out like this. It really was such a special game, nothing quite like it.
Great video. I remember hearing about this game and seeing gameplay footage. Sadly, I've never had the chance to play it. It's a shame that there are so many of these amazing games that never got an official release. It'd be so cool if Sega released another console, with ports of these games (and Daytona 2, Scud Race, Indy 500, OutRunners, Scarlet Dawn). It's amazing that they're sitting on so many treasures just waiting for release.
Completely agree with you. I've been hoping for Sega to bring this home for a very, very long time, ever since I was on holiday and played the heck out of it. It was such an amazing experience back then, and it also had a nostalgia about it because it reminded me of being on the Palace Pier in Brighton in the 1980's watching the original Space Harrier cabs being played. Please Sega, bring this home!
There is a post for a planet harrier 2p cabinet on the Classic Arcade Game Classifieds group on Facebook, right now. Asking 2k. Looks like a cool game!
idk why it didn't occur to me before but Gun Valkyrie feels like a spiritual successor to space harrier. fascinating how these properties evolve over time, like gun smoke to red dead and house of the dead to zombie revenge.
The thumbnail looks like Link from LoZ in a nurse outfit. Now I have to watch the video to dispel the illusion or Nurse Link will live in my head rent free for the next 5+ years...
Not sure if it's still there as I don't live there anymore but my home town of Southend on Sea in the UK had/has a Brave Firefighters cabinet which I played quite a few times. I also encountered an Air Trix cabinet at the Nationaal Video Game Museum in the Netherlands but unfortunately it had Ollie King installed on it instead, which was still a first time discovery for me but sad it didn't have it's original board in it.
It almost sounds like you’ve been cursed by some ancient Egyptian deity never to own a working Hikaru board! Love the video, game looks super fun and amazing graphics for the time.
I wanna play this on my dreamcast like yeah you explained a lot that this wouldn't work but i heard that there was a port planned and well through some optimization it propably would run so yeah
This still has to be one of my favorite arcade games of all time. After hearing how delicate this board is, I am still shocked to this day that my setup someone made it intact from California to the East Coast. Every other Hikaru board I had bought was either broken due to shipping or most often just broken, sold as is. Most people find these boards in a warehouse and they were put there because they do not work. The great part, is like naomi, if you get a working Hikaru system board, any game board can be swapped onto it and work. I have Planet Harriers, Nascar, Brave Firefighters, Star Wars Racer Arcade and Airtrix. Currently only lacking the Virtual On game. And of course Airtrix I can not play as the board never gets the message to unlock the skateboard so on a real jvs or open jvs, the character cant move side to side. This is truly a great piece of hardware that far few people have got to experience. The easy thing to do is you want a board of a specific game is get the rom board, then try to find any working Hikaru board and just swap it onto it.
@@VideoGameEsoterica Yeah, when I started collecting arcade stuff, Planet Harriers was one of the Holy Grail games, I was surprised to find an ebay listing pretty fast and sure enough it got to me with the panel and everything without problem. At this point I am looking for more fighting games such as Battle Tryst and Fighting Bujutsu.
Looove this game.. Beat it in arcades in 2000\2001. The ending credits got me, still have a picture of it. I won't ruin what the devs said at the end. Would LOVE this to get ported and use a flight stick or twin stick.
If you get one real cheap and manage to keep all the chips, even if they fly off, you can get the interposers reballed, vacuum baked, and reattached to the circuit board. Not super cheap to do, but might be the only way to do this. We've had to deal with this at my day job, where we're trying to use new old stock chips leftover from a legacy design. This likely was not sega's fault, bga tech was brand new and not fully understood yet.
this was one of the earliest rumored GameCube games, ign was buzzing about it a year before the console came out. It was made by the developer of Super Monkey Ball and Fzero GX/AX and would have been perfect on gc but alas...
I had one half of a dual cab, had graphical issue but that was fixed with constant pressure on one heatsink, and the joystick was beyond messed up. Did my best at the time to make it work and it did for the 99.9% of the time. But I sold it because I knew it was a ticking time bomb, but made sure I let that be known to the buyer. He said it was his grail so I felt like it was going to good home, always wonder if it is still working, sold it years ago.
If your issue is reballing the board, provided the chips themselves aren't cracked or something you should be able to actually photograph the boards prior to shipping and then reball them on arrival. There are services which will do this for you, and electronics youtubers absoloutely love projects like this because they give lots of weird troubleshooting to solve for and get them more business.
I returned the board as the seller wanted it back for a full refund or for me to keep it for zero dollars back. Considering the cost I really couldn’t keep a board needing three chips recalled (plus trace damage on the rom board and filter board)
Someone posted triangle numbers from various games a few years ago and it seems like the Hikaru is basically a Naomi 1/Dreamcast with a bunch of added features, at least when it comes to polycounts. The Naomi 2, however, is the more powerful hardware in that line, reaching polycounts as high as the Gamecube or more. I feel like the Naomi 2 is the "real" Model 3 successor.
Hikaru had so many different hardware effects it could do it was more impressive hardware visually even if the poly count might not be the most amazing
Yeah, this is what I don’t understand about people wanting to preserve games via the physical console/disc/cart. Hardware breaks, but emulation can be copied time and time again. Hopefully this gets worked on soon :(
I bet it's a heavy board. I once wanted to buy a Virtua Fighter PCB and have it shipped to the UK (from the USA) but the seller didn't want to do it. Too costly. And, this was an arcade board shop.
Neat looking game, I am assuming the units you have are actually damaged on the contacts. Usually if the pads are still intact you can reball BGA chips. Do all of them break similarly where there is hope to repair them?
They were returned because the sellers wanted to keep all the money or have them returned…no partial refund for damage. And I’m not keeping a board that needs four BGA chips reballed for full price
Man, hikaru emulation really needs to get updated. Only 6 games I think for it, but mostly good ones. I really enjoyed Brave fire fighters and even the star wars pod racer( even if its just a few levels ) and the n64/dreamcast is probably a better or similar way to go (Star Wars Episode I: Racer )
I have looked around for a local board, but I worry about what would happen if *I* dropped it, at any point. Those BGA pads are only going to get more fragile over time.
That game looks amazing it's a shame that's not on the Dreamcast. The MARS FPGA team wants a to bring DC and Naomi to FPGA and I really how they do, but I'm afraid they are planning some kind of crowd funding project
I have always wanted to play Planet Harriers. I really wish the IP holders of these games would take preservation more seriously. Sega is especially egregious when it comes to their arcade games.
The problem i always have with this kind of games is that i cannot see how deep the obstacle effectively is. I am not bad at them but I feel like i am doing a lot of random movements with the controller. The one exception is panorama cotton, in which i have a strong sense of deepness. I don't know how well i have explained it, i am not english😅
MetalliC is our Russian developer (DEMUL), he is not going to improve anything and he doesn’t care about making progress, he wanted to give a damn about his emulator.....
I just don't understand why this game had to be on a Hikaru, a Naomi or Dreamcast would be able to pull it off. Wasn't the Hikaru really good in water and fire effects? And the music is SEGA Awesome as per usual :P
@@VideoGameEsotericaYup, from what I read it was mostly designed for Brave Fire Fighters. I do believe the Naomi 2 was more powerful though, not in the fire effects, but that Hardware T&L chip from ELAN with that multi texturing and 8 light sources wasn't present in a Hikaru I think. It also was cheaper. BUt those water and fire effects would need an Xbox or even later to mimic, as it was insane :P. Typical over the top SEGA 3D hardware :P . I had hoped they'd use some of it for the fires stage in Planet Harriers :P.
Sega loved making hardware. Sadly Hikaru is basically the end of the line for them. Sure NAOMI 2 came later but Hikaru was still the final pure Sega designed board before they went to Triforce and Chihiro
@@VideoGameEsoterica I still like the Naomi 2 better, from a programming perspective it probably was an easier board to work with than the Hikaru and it's specialized hardware. Yet incredibly powerful in it's own right. Triforce and Chichiro weren't actually that much more powerful, if at all. I agree though, it was their last real hardware, but I still consider Naomi 2 a part of that too. :) . Even though it's basically 2 Naomi's ducktaped together with a Hardware Transform and LIghting solution :P . Still the Naomi/Dreamcast lasted a long time with the Atomiswave and Naomi boards that were still having games released for it for quite a few years :). Loads of 2D fighters for instance :) .
@@VideoGameEsoterica Damn--I need more fish oil. Indeed it was never ported. I think I've watched enough RUclips videos of this game over the years that I swore I played it. :)
I remember seeing this in a coming soon section of an old magazine. Thought this would’ve been cool for the Dreamcast! Such a disappointment. Shame about your luck with the hikaru board
Oh 100%. Issue is the cost of the fix, if possible for the four chips was wildly expensive for anyone even willing to do it. Plus the chips were just rattling around the box I got on the first purchase and had damaged the motherboard
Too bad the hardware is so fragile for this one. It almost seems imperative to preserve the remaining boards and improve the emulation to keep it alive. I'd certainly like to play it!
Wow, that's sad. It's always a shame when development on an emulator for such an expensive, and fragile board just stops. Model 2 emulation is still not perfect, and development on that stopped years ago. I know that a lot of Konami games in Mame still has graphical bugs, and audio issues for decades.
4:34 ахахаха MetalliC is our Russian developer (DEMUL), he is not going to improve anything and he doesn’t care about making progress, he wanted to give a damn about his emulator.....
Wow, this game is gorgeous. I love the lush, futuristic environments. That leafy autumnal forest is particularly stunning. And that is one fearsome looking shopkeeper!
The shopkeeper never missed a day at the gym
I miss mine. Used to have at my arcade but we had to down size. One of my favorites.
Should have hand delivered it here lol. I still can’t find a pcb
A few years ago at Midwest gaming classic in Milwaukee someone had planet harriers set up to play and Made sure to play through it a few times that weekend because I knew it would probably be my only chance to play it. And I've never seen it again
It’s such a hard board to find but one day I’ll find it :)
I do hope you get a working Hikaru board sometimes, since I know you'd treat it well and try to keep it in working order and preserved. As for Planet Harriers: I played it a handful of times at the mall in spring and summer '01. It was one of the last new games I played there before heading off to college, at least that I remember. I think I only went there once more with a friend on a visit home in the years between then and when they closed the mall itself (River Falls Mall in Clarksville, IN) and turned part of the section where the arcade was upstairs into part of a Bass Pro Shop. They had this, two Star Wars Racer Arcade cabs, and single-seat deluxe cab of Nascar Arcade, which dad loved. So, I think I might have got more Hikaru exposure than most, but I didn't have a ton of chances to play them because I was working part-time in the spring and full-time in the summer. Planet Harriers was my favorite of the 3 I got to play, and I had hoped later that it'd come to the XBox, I think based on some rumors on GameFAQs message boards or something; however, obviously that never happened. I would certainly like to play this in completely working form again: it's not my favorite arcade game or anything, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. Besides that, I'd love to play a Rapid River cabinet again. Again, not the best game, but quite a uniquely fun game.
It’s my white whale. Gotten so close yet still so far. Interesting…I think I just drove by that Bass Pro Shops on Friday
On the bright side I finally got the Saturn core working on Mr now that I'm not dying from covid.
Good to hear you are feeling better
Whoa never heard of this game! Super cool
Seems like a decent amount of people today have never heard of this one!
I played this once in Las Vegas in 2001. Possibly in Sega's Gameworks, or some other arcade in the city. But I remember being pleasantly surprised that there was another Space Harrier game because Space Harrier was one of the first games I ever played. The Master System was my first console. Anyway, in Planet Harriers, I chose the Guitar guy and it was really fun. I always wanted SEGA to port this onto a modern console one day. Or maybe have it as a playable game in a future Yakuza/Like A Dragon game.
It’s such a fun game and it’s such a bummer it’s so hard to play now
Man...I've been waiting for this system and the other Sega PC-Based systems (prior to 2015) were fully emulated. I remember playing the Hikaru skating game in the arcade, hating it (when compared to Tony Hawk 1 or 2) but still wanting to eventually learn how to get better at it.
Ollie King. It was a fun one
Holy crap. I have been trying to remember the name of this game for years! I remember playing this at an indoor soccer arena where I also found The Ocean Hunters for the first time.
Place had some legit games!
@7:45 Game Galaxy Arcade in Smyrna, Tennessee. I’ve heard tell that it’s confirmed to be at Galloping Ghost, as well.
But I know how you feel. This game has been a pocket obsession of mine for over 20 years. Never saw it in Japan, and have never seen it in the U.S. Hasn’t stopped me from collecting all the Arcadia magazines it was featured in.
I’ll be at galloping ghost soon for some pickup shots for a doc so I’ll look for it
Same here VGE. I only played Planet Harriers once at an establishment called SportsWorld in Paramus, NJ. Interesting game and spent a few dollars on it. But never seen it out in the open again. Nice choice bro. 8^)
Anthony..
I think it was rare even when it was new
Great job at raising awarness towards almost extint games. I hope that Sega brings it back eventually, maybe even as a surprise inside the Yakuza games, at Club Sega? After all, that's the only way to play a certain Motor Raid at home
Always happy to do it. I can’t be the only one out there that loves them
Space Harrier is beloved to me.
Planet Harriers is one of the few games on my "I need to play this before I die" playlist, even though (besides the perspective) it embodies precisely 0% of what I love about Space Harrier.
Graphically and hardware-wise this is a bit of a puzzler. It looks like something the Dreamcast or maybe Naomi could handle easily, aside from maybe the filter effects you mentioned. A lot of it seems kind of low-poly, specifically the scenery.
Yes Brave fighters is really the example of what Hikaru could do graphically that NAOMI and Dreamcast just couldn’t
@@VideoGameEsoterica Wow, yeah! Just watched a video of that on real hardware! I can see why you'd love to get that one into the collection!
Looking at Hikaru's specs, it's got *two* of the 200MHZ SH-4 CPUs from the Dreamcast. And a different but more advanced graphics chip. So I think it's a little bit like the Saturn situation: the extra performance is obviously there but you'll need to do some tricky extra work for it.
As opposed to the Naomi, which is just a Dreamcast with slightly beefier specs, that will deliver better performance over the Dreamcast for "free."
@@VideoGameEsoterica Afterburner Climax (best name for a Sega game ever?) is also super impressive looking to me, much moreso than Planet Harriers.
Exactly. This is way more bespoke silicon that needs experienced devs to harness the power
That was def much later though so it gets an advantage
Wow, I'm lucky to have played this game, it was at a location of an arcade franchise we had in SoCal called "Nickel! Nickel!" you'd pay an enterance fee and all the games could be played with Nickels. It was AMAZING and I miss it SO MUCH. An absolute BLAST to play.
I actually found it in several arcades back in the day. I'm surprised and saddened it's going out like this. It really was such a special game, nothing quite like it.
Yes it’s legacy is just a trail of broken boards now
Great video. I remember hearing about this game and seeing gameplay footage. Sadly, I've never had the chance to play it. It's a shame that there are so many of these amazing games that never got an official release. It'd be so cool if Sega released another console, with ports of these games (and Daytona 2, Scud Race, Indy 500, OutRunners, Scarlet Dawn). It's amazing that they're sitting on so many treasures just waiting for release.
But that would be Sega being cool and making fans happy. That’s now what Sega is lol
Completely agree with you. I've been hoping for Sega to bring this home for a very, very long time, ever since I was on holiday and played the heck out of it. It was such an amazing experience back then, and it also had a nostalgia about it because it reminded me of being on the Palace Pier in Brighton in the 1980's watching the original Space Harrier cabs being played. Please Sega, bring this home!
Our best hope is they add it to a Yakuza game
There is a post for a planet harrier 2p cabinet on the Classic Arcade Game Classifieds group on Facebook, right now. Asking 2k. Looks like a cool game!
If I had room for the cab I’d snap it up
idk why it didn't occur to me before but Gun Valkyrie feels like a spiritual successor to space harrier. fascinating how these properties evolve over time, like gun smoke to red dead and house of the dead to zombie revenge.
Yes there are so many games that just feel like the natural evolution to something that came before
The thumbnail looks like Link from LoZ in a nurse outfit. Now I have to watch the video to dispel the illusion or Nurse Link will live in my head rent free for the next 5+ years...
Hahaha now that you mention it
I love the Sega/Amusement Vision intro. It's unique
You don’t see it very often at all
In some alternate universe you'd have this board and this video would be even greater. Great video by the way.
One day I’ll have a board. Just not today lol
Not sure if it's still there as I don't live there anymore but my home town of Southend on Sea in the UK had/has a Brave Firefighters cabinet which I played quite a few times. I also encountered an Air Trix cabinet at the Nationaal Video Game Museum in the Netherlands but unfortunately it had Ollie King installed on it instead, which was still a first time discovery for me but sad it didn't have it's original board in it.
Brave Firefighters is another awesome games that’s barely playable sadly
It almost sounds like you’ve been cursed by some ancient Egyptian deity never to own a working Hikaru board!
Love the video, game looks super fun and amazing graphics for the time.
Hahaha you never know who’s cursed me
Thank you for this content !
Always happy to do it :)
I wanna play this on my dreamcast like yeah you explained a lot that this wouldn't work but i heard that there was a port planned and well through some optimization it propably would run so yeah
Never know!
This still has to be one of my favorite arcade games of all time. After hearing how delicate this board is, I am still shocked to this day that my setup someone made it intact from California to the East Coast. Every other Hikaru board I had bought was either broken due to shipping or most often just broken, sold as is. Most people find these boards in a warehouse and they were put there because they do not work. The great part, is like naomi, if you get a working Hikaru system board, any game board can be swapped onto it and work. I have Planet Harriers, Nascar, Brave Firefighters, Star Wars Racer Arcade and Airtrix. Currently only lacking the Virtual On game. And of course Airtrix I can not play as the board never gets the message to unlock the skateboard so on a real jvs or open jvs, the character cant move side to side. This is truly a great piece of hardware that far few people have got to experience. The easy thing to do is you want a board of a specific game is get the rom board, then try to find any working Hikaru board and just swap it onto it.
Its a total classic but its still sad its becoming an extinct classic. Fun you managed to get one though
@@VideoGameEsoterica Yeah, when I started collecting arcade stuff, Planet Harriers was one of the Holy Grail games, I was surprised to find an ebay listing pretty fast and sure enough it got to me with the panel and everything without problem. At this point I am looking for more fighting games such as Battle Tryst and Fighting Bujutsu.
Yeah they pop up on occasion. Unlike Operation Tiger that I just got. Took me three damn years
@@VideoGameEsoterica 3 years? that's it?
Lol felt like a long time
Looove this game.. Beat it in arcades in 2000\2001. The ending credits got me, still have a picture of it. I won't ruin what the devs said at the end. Would LOVE this to get ported and use a flight stick or twin stick.
One day I’ll see the second half of the game lol
@@VideoGameEsotericaLol. I hope so too. One day.. One day.
Haha I’m always looking
If you get one real cheap and manage to keep all the chips, even if they fly off, you can get the interposers reballed, vacuum baked, and reattached to the circuit board. Not super cheap to do, but might be the only way to do this. We've had to deal with this at my day job, where we're trying to use new old stock chips leftover from a legacy design. This likely was not sega's fault, bga tech was brand new and not fully understood yet.
Sadly when I got a quote on reballing the chips it made it 2x the price of a good working board and no guarantees it would work still
this was one of the earliest rumored GameCube games, ign was buzzing about it a year before the console came out. It was made by the developer of Super Monkey Ball and Fzero GX/AX and would have been perfect on gc but alas...
Typical Sega. “Hey you really want a game”…fans…”yes please”…Sega “how about a 2D Sonic compilation instead!!!”
that was one fancy gpu on that arcade board
Yeah it was impressive for the time
I had one half of a dual cab, had graphical issue but that was fixed with constant pressure on one heatsink, and the joystick was beyond messed up. Did my best at the time to make it work and it did for the 99.9% of the time. But I sold it because I knew it was a ticking time bomb, but made sure I let that be known to the buyer. He said it was his grail so I felt like it was going to good home, always wonder if it is still working, sold it years ago.
Yeah that pressure was the broken BGA solder ball being cracked and only making contact with the pressure. Poor boards just break sitting there
If your issue is reballing the board, provided the chips themselves aren't cracked or something you should be able to actually photograph the boards prior to shipping and then reball them on arrival. There are services which will do this for you, and electronics youtubers absoloutely love projects like this because they give lots of weird troubleshooting to solve for and get them more business.
I returned the board as the seller wanted it back for a full refund or for me to keep it for zero dollars back. Considering the cost I really couldn’t keep a board needing three chips recalled (plus trace damage on the rom board and filter board)
It does look to be a good enough game for a port to be a no brainer.
Stupid Sega left us hanging again
OMG this is amazing!
An absolute classic that’s so hard to play
SEGA definitely could have made a cut down version of this for Dreamcast.
Probably too late by the time they even would have considered it based on the DC lifespan
There is a PS2 version, if I'm not mistaken
Edit:
It was for Game Cube, but was just a rumor, not really released
Yeah never got ported sadly
Someone posted triangle numbers from various games a few years ago and it seems like the Hikaru is basically a Naomi 1/Dreamcast with a bunch of added features, at least when it comes to polycounts. The Naomi 2, however, is the more powerful hardware in that line, reaching polycounts as high as the Gamecube or more. I feel like the Naomi 2 is the "real" Model 3 successor.
Hikaru had so many different hardware effects it could do it was more impressive hardware visually even if the poly count might not be the most amazing
That story about the dude dropping the board... It sounds like the universe doesn't want you having this somehow 😢
Haha it kinda felt like that
Yeah, this is what I don’t understand about people wanting to preserve games via the physical console/disc/cart. Hardware breaks, but emulation can be copied time and time again. Hopefully this gets worked on soon :(
We want both. At least I do :)
Awesome!!!Big Like 💖🔆🤪
I bet it's a heavy board. I once wanted to buy a Virtua Fighter PCB and have it shipped to the UK (from the USA) but the seller didn't want to do it. Too costly. And, this was an arcade board shop.
It’s not the lightest but it’s def not the heaviest I’ve ever had sent to me either. I’d say that’s M2
Neat looking game, I am assuming the units you have are actually damaged on the contacts. Usually if the pads are still intact you can reball BGA chips. Do all of them break similarly where there is hope to repair them?
They were returned because the sellers wanted to keep all the money or have them returned…no partial refund for damage. And I’m not keeping a board that needs four BGA chips reballed for full price
They have this at my local arcade and both cabs have broken joysticks. Been that way for about a year now.
Must be cheap AF if they won’t even fix the sticks
I always wished this game was ported to dreamcast back in the day
We all did. Stupid Sega
Man, hikaru emulation really needs to get updated. Only 6 games I think for it, but mostly good ones. I really enjoyed Brave fire fighters and even the star wars pod racer( even if its just a few levels ) and the n64/dreamcast is probably a better or similar way to go (Star Wars Episode I: Racer )
Yes Hikaru emulation hasn’t been touched in years
They had all the hardware to hook-up the GD-rom unit to this to make it somewhat cheaper- but Sega's infinite wisdom strikes again..
If only they hadn’t screwed up the manufacturing it wouldn’t be so rare
Hi. Amazing graphics my friend. Where can we emulate Hikaru?
Demul
@@VideoGameEsoterica thanks. Im gonna get it and try to make it work
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I have looked around for a local board, but I worry about what would happen if *I* dropped it, at any point. Those BGA pads are only going to get more fragile over time.
Lotta hot glue around the chips and pray basically
Man, did you get any update on your research ? A 2 players cabinet was recently sold on eBay USA. Let me know.
No haven’t found a loose working board yet
Sonic Adventure 2's trees...
Oh really? I never noticed
That game looks amazing it's a shame that's not on the Dreamcast. The MARS FPGA team wants a to bring DC and Naomi to FPGA and I really how they do, but I'm afraid they are planning some kind of crowd funding project
Well they haven’t asked anyone for any money yet so we will have to wait and see
I hope Flycast get there after Naomi and Naomi 2
Something tells me they wi attempt it
if you have a BGA solder equipment you szhould be able to fix it. I wouldnt lose hope.
I returned it. Seller offered nothing but return and I wasn’t keeping a board that broken for the price I paid…which was not cheap
i played this in a bowling alley near my house but it broke a few years latter
Sad but unsurprising. They are all breaking
I have always wanted to play Planet Harriers. I really wish the IP holders of these games would take preservation more seriously. Sega is especially egregious when it comes to their arcade games.
Sega is the worst. They just abandon everything and keep releasing new Sonic compilations
The problem i always have with this kind of games is that i cannot see how deep the obstacle effectively is. I am not bad at them but I feel like i am doing a lot of random movements with the controller. The one exception is panorama cotton, in which i have a strong sense of deepness. I don't know how well i have explained it, i am not english😅
You explained it perfectly :) and yes judging depth takes some practice
A 3DS version would have fixed this
What a heartbreaking set of stories hopefully one day someone will come to fix the emulation
Yes there aren’t a ton of hikaru games but they are all fun
Why can't the Hikaru boards be fixed?
They can but it’s a gigantic process and the seller did not want to do anything but a full refund for return
- Planet Harriers - or - Air Twister -
Planet Twister
Has anyone looked if this is an actual emulation bug, a bad dump, or some weird copy protection?
I don’t think anyone has looked into it much at all
Does galpping ghost arcade have planet harriers?
Not last time I checked
@@VideoGameEsoterica hikaru really needs to be added to flycast because it's open source
I’d presume the Flycast devs will try one day considering it’s part of the Dreamcast family of hardware
@@VideoGameEsoterica yes indeed, and have you heard of the system sp/Aurora
Yes. Cut down Dreamcast board running Linux. A fun pivot
A shame the devs of Demul disappeared. Really hoping FlyCast takes the helm of emulating Hikaru games.
Yea Flycast is at least active Vs Demul which is abandoned and sadly closed source
MetalliC is our Russian developer (DEMUL), he is not going to improve anything and he doesn’t care about making progress, he wanted to give a damn about his emulator.....
Just wait a few years and SEGA will eventually make a PC port. And it will be only available inside of a random Yakuza game
I’ll take it!
I just don't understand why this game had to be on a Hikaru, a Naomi or Dreamcast would be able to pull it off. Wasn't the Hikaru really good in water and fire effects? And the music is SEGA Awesome as per usual :P
It has custom silicon on the graphics side specifically for more realistic Fire and Water developed around Brave Firefighters
@@VideoGameEsotericaYup, from what I read it was mostly designed for Brave Fire Fighters. I do believe the Naomi 2 was more powerful though, not in the fire effects, but that Hardware T&L chip from ELAN with that multi texturing and 8 light sources wasn't present in a Hikaru I think. It also was cheaper. BUt those water and fire effects would need an Xbox or even later to mimic, as it was insane :P. Typical over the top SEGA 3D hardware :P .
I had hoped they'd use some of it for the fires stage in Planet Harriers :P.
Sega loved making hardware. Sadly Hikaru is basically the end of the line for them. Sure NAOMI 2 came later but Hikaru was still the final pure Sega designed board before they went to Triforce and Chihiro
@@VideoGameEsoterica I still like the Naomi 2 better, from a programming perspective it probably was an easier board to work with than the Hikaru and it's specialized hardware. Yet incredibly powerful in it's own right. Triforce and Chichiro weren't actually that much more powerful, if at all. I agree though, it was their last real hardware, but I still consider Naomi 2 a part of that too. :) . Even though it's basically 2 Naomi's ducktaped together with a Hardware Transform and LIghting solution :P .
Still the Naomi/Dreamcast lasted a long time with the Atomiswave and Naomi boards that were still having games released for it for quite a few years :). Loads of 2D fighters for instance :) .
That’s fair. More to play
Pretty sure there's a PSP version of this in Japan? I think I had it.
False memory :) it never got ported
@@VideoGameEsoterica Damn--I need more fish oil. Indeed it was never ported. I think I've watched enough RUclips videos of this game over the years that I swore I played it. :)
Haha that happens. I get confused sometimes myself and I know more random retro gaming knowledge than any one human should!
I hope Hikaru ends up on MARS
It won’t. It probably won’t end up on anything. So little is known about it you are talking a MASSIVE undertaking for a few games
@VideoGameEsoterica Don't... don't destroy my dreams sir 😢
Haha I’m destroying mine too
This game needs a home port, bad. I mean After Burner Climax did.
Maybe one day in a Yakuza game we will get it
@@VideoGameEsoterica I hope so. Hoping Yakuza 8 gives us that. We’ll just have to ask Sega to death for it.
I wonder who at Sega even remembers it exists
I remember seeing this in a coming soon section of an old magazine. Thought this would’ve been cool for the Dreamcast! Such a disappointment.
Shame about your luck with the hikaru board
It happens. Some boards are cursed. This is one of them
People reflow BGAs on modern GPUs and motherboards so fixing it is possible.
Oh 100%. Issue is the cost of the fix, if possible for the four chips was wildly expensive for anyone even willing to do it. Plus the chips were just rattling around the box I got on the first purchase and had damaged the motherboard
Did you say reball? A lot more people can do reball repairs these days. I presume you returned those busted boards to the sellers?
Yes I did not keep them. Reball on that many chips would have been a nightmare. Four of em
Too bad the hardware is so fragile for this one. It almost seems imperative to preserve the remaining boards and improve the emulation to keep it alive. I'd certainly like to play it!
Yes to maintain the real hardware requires careful handling and a metric crap ton of hot glue lol
Wow, that's sad. It's always a shame when development on an emulator for such an expensive, and fragile board just stops. Model 2 emulation is still not perfect, and development on that stopped years ago. I know that a lot of Konami games in Mame still has graphical bugs, and audio issues for decades.
Yes a lot of the 3D arcade emulation is still incomplete. Hopefully one day it improves
That's sad man the guy just drops and bricks an expensive rare board
Yep. Chips just come flying off
Such a shame. This game looks amazing
It’s a 10/10 game until it crashes. Or until the arcade board breaks
@@VideoGameEsoterica hey at least we have Air Twister finally coming out to consoles this week!
I saw the trailer. I was intrigued
4:34 ахахаха
MetalliC is our Russian developer (DEMUL), he is not going to improve anything and he doesn’t care about making progress, he wanted to give a damn about his emulator.....
Not 100% sure what you are trying to say here?
@@VideoGameEsoterica progress on DEMUL is complete!
On Hikaru??
@@VideoGameEsoterica yes !!
Last build I saw public it was def not done. Got a link?