I was helping my niece with her ABCs the other day. I told her A, Always; B, Be; C, Closing. ALWAYS BE CLOSING!!! She cried. Poor girl doesn't have the makings of a closer.
Math Man Even Most men who are trained properly still don’t have the fortitude to be a closer whether they have actual balls or not. I know you’re type... for me you’re the easiest to get sign on the dotted line. Big egos are the easiest to stroke cause you can’t miss them, they puff up easy and with each stroke it brings them closer to signing. They love a good stroke and will follow you like a puppy to that dotted line. I know you.... You’re the same type of guy that complains women are too hardened and have become feminazi ball busters and won’t just be happy rubbing your feet, making you a sammich and being happy to shut up and watch you watch the game. But yet they don’t have the balls to be closers? Make up your mind Son! Just having fun roasting you 😂 🔥🔥 I Love this scene.... I’m a female closer so I won’t be putting the fucking coffee down!! 😘 All my best ... Be well!
@@jwil4905 that's another hope. the movie gives you no reason not to believe him. so if you don't believe a word he says, then you can make up anything you want about him or any other character which kind of takes away the point of watching a movie if you just disregard what information the movie gives you.
Jack Lemmon, Kevin Spacey, Alan Arkin, Ed Harris, Alec Baldwin, & Al Pacino, can't lose with a roster like that, it's like the 1927 N.Y. Yankees lineup..
Dude....yer' not wrong but like a lotta' people you left out the MOST important part. The writer. If the writing sucks those actors couldn't do shit with it....they were handed a diamond and made a wedding ring out of it :) NEVER forget the writing.
Well, they had to leave Pacino's character (roma) out of this scene in order for Baldwin's character to shine without being interrupted...because there is no way Roma would just sit there and take the insults.
Well that and Roma's character was too good of a salesman to be in that room. He was too busy closing fools while those deadbeats were getting their brains beat in. The only way he's in that room is if he's as bad as they are.
Yep, Roma was going to get the car regardless. He might be on FU's side. There's nothing Baldwin said that Roma would disagree cept the part about no one here is worth wasting those leads on. Roma is the one that would make those leads worthy..
@Cam Robertson Ricky is on a streak at least, which they've all been on. the only one who's sales talent i saw as maybe being sub-par was Alan Arkin's character... but he was also the one who's moral/ethical compass seemed somewhat functional...
Alec is hilarious in his interviews recounting how pissed people get seeing this play in the theater and not seeing this scene because it was written specially for the film version.
@@mikepastor.k6233 He's upped the ante on his being a miserable human being. To his credit he has had some good performances but his lousy performances as a person Trump his acting. Pardon the pun.
Except Blake wouldn't be directing it at Roma. In fact, if Roma showed up halfway through, Blake would probably give him one or two of the Glengarry leads in front of everyone just to hammer the point home.
Despite what Williamson said, Roma was never going to be a part of that meeting. The others needed motivation to get right or get gone. Roma was still in good standing.
Back in the early 90s I worked for a timeshare sales office located right across the street from the Mall of America selling "vacation ownership" at Breezy Point, MN. We were actually shown this speech on videotape during a sales meeting, in order to "motivate" us. None of us ever closed a Patel, either.
I was a subcontractor at a big window company in metro Detroit, the salesman would meet around noon in a conference room and the would play this part every day over speakers to the salesman.
elliot bizness depends what kind of sales you’re in. I’m in boat sales and it’s good. Yes there’s competition and you can be fucked over, but it’s the name of the game.
That’s fair enough. That said, I’ve never met a successful salesperson that would be happy to be broke. No right or wrong here it’s just that money drives some people.
@@scottcraig6381 depends on what you mean by backbone. Some people would say it’s pretty damned spineless to sit there and take getting dressed down and disrespected by a giant douchebag waste of a human just to make a few extra bucks.
35 years ago I was cold calling in a similar type boiler room for phone systems when the Bell system first broke up, in NYC. ANYBODY who thinks this isn't real...has never been there. Mamet is a genius, he's been there. This is America in a nut shell.
yeah I used to sell cars back in the 80's. yes there were sales meetings like this. But I learned that a person needs to motivate themselves and not respond to verbal abuse like this.
First of all this isn’t a boiler room. These guys are in home sales not phone sales. Some aspects are very accurate (“no one can close a Patel” “you let her talk to her lawyer”) others aren’t (Roma monologue) ABC is very outdated training.
Imagine Alec giving this speech to an office of fragile soft-as-baby-shit Gen Z employees. "Closing is a form of white supremacy and your watch represents the evils of capitalism, you colonizer. And I don't want your steak knife prize, meat is murder, and a new car?? Have you ever heard of pollution?! Ugh I'm taking a mental health day, I can't deal with these straight white cis males..."
Much like Orson Welles in The Third Man. Orson doesn't show up until an hour into the movie and steals - I mean absolutely steals - the movie with his 5-7 min. dialogue on the ferris wheel. .
Closers AIDA the money home; there is a reason why "Loser" is in the title next to a "C": A Do I have your ATTENTION I Do I have your INTEREST because its "fuck or walk" D Have your made your DECISION; for Christ! and ACTION. Coffee's for cLosers. Losers don't need Coffee.
@CD Smith Horse manure. Fire the terminal lazy and inspire the rest. Abuse is just that; childish, churlish and unprofessional. I came into the home sales biz with NO background or sales track record. I wanted to succeed. I built a personal data base of the product line, started putting my brochure displays in beauty shops, barber shops and set up b "bird dogs"....I would cold call newly married couples from the Sunday Times Society pages. I out sold every veteran sales staff member in my first 6 weeks and so many of my leads and brochures came back after I left the company that the sales office invented an "expense check" to give me because of all the rain I generated. I did that on my own. If some Baldwin asshole had came in and poured out that BS I would have kicked him in the nuts as soon as he bent his face down to mine. All that Drill Instructor stuff is fine for the USMC but if you are building a sales force you do it with with leadership, and skill building...make them into professionals....not brow-beaten employees with a horror story YOU supplied. I would throw a rabid bastard suckwad like Baldwin into the street.
@@martianshoes, Well Well. Someone w/principle. Well said.........I would do the same. You want to weep for the world? Scroll down & read the comments.
Yeah, alot of people can't be good salesmen....but some are just good at it. You know they are trying to sell you something but they get you to buy anyway. It really is an art...that and a lack of conscience to have your entire MO "just get them to sign"
I tried phone sales in 1978, right after I got out of the Air Force. I couldn't sell a bucket of water to someone that was on fire. I made 50 bucks in two weeks and was fired.
It's nothing but dialogue.....so boring, just like the rest of the movies from the 80's-mid 90's that are about sales, who every thought making movies about sales was a good idea need to be spayed or de-balled
@@matsuyamaalex Scary-good acting and the dialogue of one of the top playwrites of his generation. I find some of the verbal interplay far more exciting than car crashes and such. For instance, Al Pacino picks up subtley on the suppressed homosexuality of his client played by famed actor Jonathan Pryce. Wow!
@@poetcomic1 yeah you probably think "get out" was good too!!! Alec Baldwin is all ego and testosterone, if you fall for it that meens you're low key homosexuals....I hate idol worship!!! Al Pacino has been trying to fix the issues with Godfather 3 in every movie since, and Kevin Spacey has never played a different character don't believe me watch this then American Beauty. You'd be amazed to know to realize that you don't like the actor you like the first movie they were good in then hoped they'd continue the same character forever!!! Holy shit, I hope Al Pacino gets that food out the back of his mouth Scenes like this proved to me that being a salesperson is a dead art and should stay. No one likes a sales person anymore not even in retail why do you think Amazon is destroying all the commission based jobs in retail? As a person who's been in sales there are such things as bad leads you can't take somebody who's brain dead like Alec Baldwin style of salesman and put him in the ghetto of north Saint Louis and expect him to pull money out of it, never has happen in never will... As a matter of fact I've had this boss let acts just like Alec Baldwin before and he was the boss who sent me to the ghetto in Saint Louis I was there for a couple days and then he wondered why hadn't made a single penny then he decides to go down there for a week himself and didn't pull out one sale, and hes the best of the Tri-state area!!! So yes there are such things as bad leads
@@matsuyamaalex ''Alec Baldwin is all ego and testosterone,'' No truer word. It's playing out in real life for Alec. Many are not fooled by him. But still many are fooled by him, 😂. I also hate idol worship.
My friend was a top pharmaceuticals rep. The things he had to do to make a sale inclduing renting an entire movie theater when Star Wars: The Phantom Menace debuted. Physicians/Clients presumably got in free.
I studied sales in the eighties, wound up doing cold calling door to door for four years everything from advertising to assurance to hawking it was a tough life.
Very well acted. When Blake heard from Williamson that "Mr. Roma" was the only one not there for the meeting, he glanced at the Sales board and saw that Roma probably didn't need to be there anyway. Then he lit into Levene. :-)
I like to imagine that this character always has those brass balls banging around in his briefcase, and he constantly pulls them out saying to everyone that it takes brass balls to sell real estate.
I am a salesmen. This movie should be mandatory in business school because that is what business is...the bottom line. "Oh yeah, I use to be a salesmen, tuff racket (sip)!" Great line.
Exactly. My first sales job had us watch Boiler Room as a part of our training and at my next sales job, I showed them the ABC'S. By the next week, we had a "coffee is for closers" sign up in the break room.
You are aware, that they were all selling complete shit to unsuspecting customers, right? It was borderline fraud. In fact, what Roma was trying to pull on his lead was pretty much fraud.
@@OldManNutcakez That’s kind of the point. If you can close people selling garbage they know they shouldn’t have, imagine if they were selling something people actually wanted. Sales is sales.
I mean, it IS a tough racket. You have to have the attitude that Baldwin has in order to have the endurance to stay in it. Most people will go in and find it cool for a few months, maybe a year and then move on cause they don't like it, they can't take the bad hits and the fact that you sometimes need to get 100 No's in order to get a single Yes. etc etc etc. Baldwin's character is right, if you don't have what it takes, just fucking leave.
"I'd wish you good luck but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it!" That line gets me every time. Anyone who's ever done a sales job loves that flick, classic.
This scene was not in the original stage play, Mamet wrote this specifically for Baldwin so he could be part of this remarkable cast. You’ll notice Mamet didn’t write a gun into this scene so we can keep watching these great actors 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Eric Cartman like that watch that cost "more than your car" . i'm not a material person, which made it harder to get people to buy materialesque items. .............................busted....................i'm not a closer. no coffee for me. but sales is a tough racket.
Um most likely that Hyundai will last longer than that BMW the up keep of the Bmw will be way more expensive as well. Last time I checked you have to take BMW's to special places for repairs Hyundai's you can pretty much take them anywhere!!! So that Hyundai not a bag little car then Alec Baldwin is full of shit
Scenes like this proved to me that being a salesperson is a dead art and should stay. No one likes a sales person anymore not even in retail why do you think Amazon is destroying all the commission based jobs in retail? As a person who's been in sales there are such things as bad leads you can't take somebody who's brain dead like Alec Baldwin style of salesman and put him in the ghetto of north Saint Louis and expect him to pull money out of it, never has happen in never will... As a matter of fact I've had this boss let acts just like Alec Baldwin before and he was the boss who sent me to the ghetto in Saint Louis I was there for a couple days and then he wondered why hadn't made a single penny then he decides to go down there for a week himself and didn't pull out one sale, and hes the best of the Tri-state area!!! So yes there are such things as bad leads
The rich get richer, that's the law of the land. Who belongs to the BM.......... Dave Moss is one of the best characters in movie history. Ed Harris should have won supporting actor for 3 years in a row for this performance.
I thumbed you up because I tell people to watch Malice, just for the God complex speech at the deposition. I think Alec believed he WAS a surgeon and a brilliant one at that.
this is a perfect example that if you are not willing to lie, cheat and steal, don't get into sales. Cuz your boss doesn't give a shit about you, only your numbers.
I was doing sales when this movie came out. It was a tough job because nothing came easy. This movie was so depressing. Yes it's well done and probably the best for portrayal of Motivation by motivating guy. But let's just say overtime I found a new career I am now a family doctor.
There is NOTHING motivational about the speech. Its nothing but a beat down speech meant to degrade everyone. There is not ONE training tip in the speech. not one.
@@ricktheitalianrebel6687 agree. The top salesman in the team (Al Pacino character) wasn’t in the meeting because like most successful salespeople they put more pressure on themselves than the Baldwin character could ever do. The guys in the room aren’t valued by their employer and sadly the “third place you’re fired” reference is standard within many sales organisations nowadays where the bottom 5-10% of staff are subject to an annual cull (reduction in force).
Jack Lemmon role is heartbreaking because he’s living the role of a salesman but he’s pushing aside family issues and to see this old man resort to greedy politics.the line where Shelly is fixing to go turn him and he’s says “daughter” is the cool reality of this business and the look on lemonade face the realization of self respect and what he’s willing to do to get those leads and make that sale.
It's nothing but dialogue.....so boring, just like the rest of the movies from the 80's-mid 90's that are about sales, who every thought making movies about sales was a good idea need to be spayed or de-balled
Scenes like this proved to me that being a salesperson is a dead art and should stay. No one likes a sales person anymore not even in retail why do you think Amazon is destroying all the commission based jobs in retail? As a person who's been in sales there are such things as bad leads you can't take somebody who's brain dead like Alec Baldwin style of salesman and put him in the ghetto of north Saint Louis and expect him to pull money out of it, never has happen in never will... As a matter of fact I've had this boss let acts just like Alec Baldwin before and he was the boss who sent me to the ghetto in Saint Louis I was there for a couple days and then he wondered why hadn't made a single penny then he decides to go down there for a week himself and didn't pull out one sale, and hes the best of the Tri-state area!!! So yes there are such things as bad leads
He was purposely written out of this scene. The rest of the sales agents sat there, listened to what he was saying, and took his abuse, thereby making this the best scene (IMO)in the movie. The Pacino character, on the other hand, would've told this guy to F off, would not have sat there quietly, and would have given it right back to the Baldwin character. David Mamet certainly knows what he's doing.
Good thing for Alec, as Al would have tore him to shreds and eaten him with balsamic vinegar dressing! NO ONE can scream/yell better than Mr. Pacino! (Ray Liotta is a close second).
If anybody thinks this isn`t real, this shits too crazy to happen in real life, you`ve never been in à real sales gig. I found myself in this racket, right out of high school. started from the bottom, like the street rat I was back in the day, early 20s, literally had NOTHING in my life, sometimes i`d go to bed thinking, if this was all there was to life, I didn`t wanna live out the rest of it, seriously.... I was talked to like this for years early on back in those days, almost every morning.... Brutally beaten up psychologically, built up from the ground up, became quite the monster, a warrior that never took no for an answer, not on my sits... When I didn`t sell, when I couldn`t close, I didn`t eat. my life was that simple back then, I had no salary, no basic pay, no minimum wage.... I worked HARD for every dollar. For me sales was a war , me vs all of them, I destroyed anyone keeping me from achieving my goals (very important to set goals in life, little ones - big ones, write em all down, imagine it over and over again, dream about em, let it be a plague in your life, never stop thinking about em) For me, that meant being ruthless, greedy, despicable... My boss would have a big board up in the office back in those days, your sales figures and income were posted on a big wall, updated daily by the managers for everyone to see. So we all knew each others successes, we knew when people were failing, starving etc etc, the boss used the board as a motivator, he wanted everyone to know who the losers in the office were, and the winners to aspire to. Most ppl couldn`t handle it. We had MEGA turn over, some people wouldn`t last a day in training... I was one of the best by the time I was 25, took years to master the art of selling for me, most people can`t do it, can`t handle the stress, they don`t have the right temperament for the job. Today, I`m 38. semi-retired, fancy cars, luxury cars, fast cars, got em all, the house, everything really... put your mind into something, commit to something completely, and you will succeed, guaranteed, in anything you do with your life, fitness, work, family etc... Thats what I teach young people now when they ask me about the sales gig, about running a company, start-ups etc.... most of the time I`m wasting my time, kids today can`t fucking toast bread let alone survive running their own businesses, pathetic really when I look at how kids are today.... anyways thats my rant, hope you enjoyed.
When you know, you know. I used to work sales, but I burnt out. I damn near always hit my quota and loved every minute of it. IMO sales is just like chess, you gotta be smarter than your opponent and always think ahead.
“Your name’s Levine? You call yourself a salesman you son of a bitch?” I say this every morning to the guy who rings up my coffee at the local Casey’s. He always responds with “coffee’s for closers only”.
I have been in sales off and on my entire life and I have run into people like the character played by Alec Baldwin. Also, the role that Al Pacino plays must have been researched very well. There are guys just like that out there in the "sales" world. I too would have walked on that meeting - no one could be so desperate to have to sit in a meeting like that. Too many other decent opportunities out there!
I've dealt with the Baldwin characters in the past. They all share some things in common. 1. They live in a financial house of cards. When it collapses, it's a catastrophe. 2. They have failed marriages. They're lousy dads and their kids hate them. 3. They have no friends. None. Zero. Zip. Nil. Null. 4. When the money runs out, and it always does, they end up working at a third-rate casino dealing Blackjack. 5. They die young.
I used to train call centers. Yes I took those annoying scripts and tore them up. I trained people to realize that they are imposing on someone’s valuable time and asking them for money to boot. You have one chance to offer them your product , grab their attention and secure the sale whilst gaining their loyalty and growing your pipeline with referrals and return clients. Part of my “homework” was I told everyone on day one (3 day workshop”) to watch this movie and Boiler Room. Then ask them , do you “sell” or do you create a relationship that is valuable to both parties? This is the difference between then and now.
Incredible performance. Regardless of Baldwin now, this movie is one of the best you will ever see. One thing, 30 years later, a hyandai is now better than a BMW
JOSHUA LAMBERT got the same speech from the owner of the dealership I worked at when I was 20. Some old geezer came on the lot with a walker and oxygen tank and I let him go. I didn’t know what to think or say. Just stood there quiet and confused. Quit as soon as I finished the year and keyed some cars before I left. Fuck that guy.
JOSHUA LAMBERT I've been there man, and that was rough.I don't miss trying to sell cars to people with no money and no credit, and being blamed when they can't buy. Oftentimes, their trade-in was junk too. They were upside down on a 200,000 mile beater that barely ran.😒😒😒
@@teddy_bearc_bolten3885 i'm not a closer. trying to sell *hit to people that you can tell are poor (in home sales), that have no need for the crap you're peddling. a closer goes in and sends them deeper into debt.
I was helping my niece with her ABCs the other day. I told her A, Always; B, Be; C, Closing. ALWAYS BE CLOSING!!! She cried. Poor girl doesn't have the makings of a closer.
You fucking asshole. Girls don't have brass balls so why waste time with a loser like her. FIRED HER ASS.
Tell her to hit the bricks
Math Man Even Most men who are trained properly still don’t have the fortitude to be a closer whether they have actual balls or not.
I know you’re type... for me you’re the easiest to get sign on the dotted line. Big egos are the easiest to stroke cause you can’t miss them, they puff up easy and with each stroke it brings them closer to signing.
They love a good stroke and will follow you like a puppy to that dotted line.
I know you.... You’re the same type of guy that complains women are too hardened and have become feminazi ball busters and won’t just be happy rubbing your feet, making you a sammich and being happy to shut up and watch you watch the game.
But yet they don’t have the balls to be closers? Make up your mind Son!
Just having fun roasting you 😂 🔥🔥
I Love this scene.... I’m a female closer so I won’t be putting the fucking coffee down!! 😘
All my best ... Be well!
I don’t care who you are, that there’s funny. Seriously, I was starting to take a drink and spit my water on my lap.
HA HA HA!!! 😹
You just know his BMW is leased, the guy is leveraged to the hilt while paying alimony to two ex wives and his kids hate him.
@Glenn Watson. Good one. Wonder if he clips coupons?
@@bh8365 Savagegeese reviewed his car, they even got him on the video. ruclips.net/video/uya2JuIzWs8/видео.html
if he's pulling in close to a mil, he can afford a beamer. everything you're saying is what those salesmen HOPE about him.
@@michaelweston2285 Correction, he SAYS he's pulling close to a mil. Dude's likely a compulsive liar.
@@jwil4905 that's another hope. the movie gives you no reason not to believe him. so if you don't believe a word he says, then you can make up anything you want about him or any other character which kind of takes away the point of watching a movie if you just disregard what information the movie gives you.
Jack Lemmon, Kevin Spacey, Alan Arkin, Ed Harris, Alec Baldwin, & Al Pacino, can't lose with a roster like that, it's like the 1927 N.Y. Yankees lineup..
and Jonathan Pryce
he named lemmon first
pretty sure they lost the movie didnt do well.
@@Johnconno you stroll on. he's talking about A C T I N G .
Dude....yer' not wrong but like a lotta' people you left out the MOST important part.
The writer.
If the writing sucks those actors couldn't do shit with it....they were handed a diamond and made a wedding ring out of it :)
NEVER forget the writing.
Well, they had to leave Pacino's character (roma) out of this scene in order for Baldwin's character to shine without being interrupted...because there is no way Roma would just sit there and take the insults.
Well that and Roma's character was too good of a salesman to be in that room. He was too busy closing fools while those deadbeats were getting their brains beat in. The only way he's in that room is if he's as bad as they are.
Yep, Roma was going to get the car regardless. He might be on FU's side. There's nothing Baldwin said that Roma would disagree cept the part about no one here is worth wasting those leads on. Roma is the one that would make those leads worthy..
Roma would've yelled in his face "how can i make the sale! ...i'm in the dark here!"
@Cam Robertson Ricky is on a streak at least, which they've all been on. the only one who's sales talent i saw as maybe being sub-par was Alan Arkin's character... but he was also the one who's moral/ethical compass seemed somewhat functional...
@Joe Lazarus. Before scrolling to your post, I wrote basically the same. Richard Roma character was not in a slump like the others.
I was working as a new outside salesman and not doing well. When I saw this movie and this scene I quit my job Monday morning.
Alec is hilarious in his interviews recounting how pissed people get seeing this play in the theater and not seeing this scene because it was written specially for the film version.
It took me 20 years to figure that out!
Coffee is for closers . Don't know how many times I've heard that without watching the movie.
Baldwin wasn't really acting....he is a born asshole.
@@kevinmcdonald6477 ...and a killer
@@mikepastor.k6233 He's upped the ante on his being a miserable human being. To his credit he has had some good performances but his lousy performances as a person Trump his acting. Pardon the pun.
Imagine Al Pacino’s reaction to this speech. That room would turn into a war zone.
BAD AT PARTIES Yes. THAT would be a way better scene.
Except Blake wouldn't be directing it at Roma. In fact, if Roma showed up halfway through, Blake would probably give him one or two of the Glengarry leads in front of everyone just to hammer the point home.
Roma would’ve wiped the floor with him
Roma was their best salesman so he had no worries, infact they most likely would give him a couple premium leads.
Despite what Williamson said, Roma was never going to be a part of that meeting. The others needed motivation to get right or get gone. Roma was still in good standing.
I love how it’s raining for like, the whole movie.
Back in the early 90s I worked for a timeshare sales office located right across the street from the Mall of America selling "vacation ownership" at Breezy Point, MN. We were actually shown this speech on videotape during a sales meeting, in order to "motivate" us. None of us ever closed a Patel, either.
_None of us ever closed a Patel, either._
Vishnu missed you, Kali kissed you, and Kristna hissed _"bitch, who?"_
I was a subcontractor at a big window company in metro Detroit, the salesman would meet around noon in a conference room and the would play this part every day over speakers to the salesman.
Timeshare , best dam closers on the planet.
And certainly, no one ever closed a Nyborg or Spannell lead, either.
Could have easily won an Oscar for this performance. This is not so far from reality in the sales industry, brutal.
elliot bizness depends what kind of sales you’re in. I’m in boat sales and it’s good. Yes there’s competition and you can be fucked over, but it’s the name of the game.
Pacino was with Sosa, closing another deal in Miami.
LOL
Write the check to... Montana Realty
“Don’t Fuck me Roma, never try to Fuck me.”
Ohh what a big man you are! Hey, let me buy you a pack of gum, I’ll show you how to chew em.
hardy har
The only thing in this world that gives orders is brass balls
Worked for a Toyota dealer back in the 90's and every sales meeting was very close to this.
I'll take the '92 Camry LE with the moonroof, but I'm not paying a dime over $16,250.
@@jshepard152I'll take a yugo.
I worked for a Toyota dealer in the 90s too! Same thing. The sales manager abused the S out of us.😮
"I can go out there tonight and make myself 15 thousand dollars... TONIGHT!"
OK here are your cards... The Nyborgs and the Patels.
Exactly!
Stop being weak!
Lol...
LOL touche - Sales guys like this give me the shits
@@LLOOYYYDD I think you mean douche;)
I'd rather be broke and work at Starbucks than do sales in that office.
That’s because you have no backbone….l suppose the worlds owe you a living…
That’s fair enough. That said, I’ve never met a successful salesperson that would be happy to be broke. No right or wrong here it’s just that money drives some people.
@@scottcraig6381 Awww, you kinda hurt my feelings.
@@scottcraig6381 depends on what you mean by backbone. Some people would say it’s pretty damned spineless to sit there and take getting dressed down and disrespected by a giant douchebag waste of a human just to make a few extra bucks.
To sell things ppl don't really need only increases the evil in the world
35 years ago I was cold calling in a similar type boiler room for phone systems when the Bell system first broke up, in NYC. ANYBODY who thinks this isn't real...has never been there. Mamet is a genius, he's been there. This is America in a nut shell.
@Maximus Meridius you can be 'successful' without screwing your customers...
Only if you let them put your balls in a vice. I haven’t, and they don’t. I work for myself, and nobody can talk to me that way.
yeah I used to sell cars back in the 80's. yes there were sales meetings like this. But I learned that a person needs to motivate themselves and not respond to verbal abuse like this.
First of all this isn’t a boiler room. These guys are in home sales not phone sales. Some aspects are very accurate (“no one can close a Patel” “you let her talk to her lawyer”) others aren’t (Roma monologue) ABC is very outdated training.
There is an exception. I talk to myself like that on occasion. 🤪
3rd place is ... "you're fired!"
Gotta love this scene!
I’m a kindergarten teacher and I always start my term like this ...! Especially the “fuck you that’s my name line ...” it always gets their attention!
See this watch? It cost more than your tricycle.
“Recess is for closers!”
You call yourself a student you sob?
"Get them to sign on the line that is dotted."
"But teacher, they are all dotted."
I remember seeing you on TV with Chris Hansen. Cried like the girl you thought you came for.
“Third prize is: You’re Fired”. 😂 Gets me every time.
Imagine Alec giving this speech to an office of fragile soft-as-baby-shit Gen Z employees. "Closing is a form of white supremacy and your watch represents the evils of capitalism, you colonizer. And I don't want your steak knife prize, meat is murder, and a new car?? Have you ever heard of pollution?! Ugh I'm taking a mental health day, I can't deal with these straight white cis males..."
Second prize is a set of steak knives😂 that's the one I love the best
The acting talent in that room is immeasurable.
"The leads are weak"
The eternal battle between Sales and Marketing departments.
Roma didn't appear to use the leads. He made his own by meeting people at the bar.
Dam straight
"The leads are weak". Fuckin leads are weak?
YOU'RE weak.
Dude shows up for 5 min in the movie and prob best scene
Much like Orson Welles in The Third Man. Orson doesn't show up until an hour into the movie and steals - I mean absolutely steals - the movie with his 5-7 min. dialogue on the ferris wheel. .
No probably about it.
It was written specifically for Baldwin. It wasn't in the original play.
Coffee is for closers only......good job I only drink camomile tea! Wonder how that would go down with Alec...
Closers AIDA the money home; there is a reason why "Loser" is in the title next to a "C":
A Do I have your ATTENTION
I Do I have your INTEREST
because its "fuck or walk"
D Have your made your DECISION; for Christ!
and ACTION.
Coffee's for cLosers.
Losers don't need Coffee.
One of the most memorable scenes in movie history. Alec Baldwin is absolutely ruthless.
@CD Smith Horse manure.
Fire the terminal lazy and inspire the rest.
Abuse is just that; childish, churlish and unprofessional.
I came into the home sales biz with NO background or sales track record.
I wanted to succeed.
I built a personal data base of the product line, started putting my brochure displays in beauty shops, barber shops and set up b "bird dogs"....I would cold call newly married couples from the Sunday Times Society pages.
I out sold every veteran sales staff member in my first 6 weeks and so many of my leads and brochures came back after I left the company that the sales office invented an "expense check" to give me because of all the rain I generated.
I did that on my own.
If some Baldwin asshole had came in and poured out that BS I would have kicked him in the nuts as soon as he bent his face down to mine.
All that Drill Instructor stuff is fine for the USMC but if you are building a sales force you do it with with leadership, and skill building...make them into professionals....not brow-beaten employees with a horror story YOU supplied.
I would throw a rabid bastard suckwad like Baldwin into the street.
One of the most memorable monologues
Good scene but I cannot relate.
@@martianshoes, Well Well.
Someone w/principle.
Well said.........I would do the same.
You want to weep for the world?
Scroll down & read the comments.
@@martianshoes I worked in sales before was good most months However when people wonder why there's violence in the workplace this scene sums it up
Jack Lemon was amazing in this. The entire cast was great but if you really know acting, Lemon was near perfection.
Jack Lemmon was amazing in everything. An absolute master.
@@pauljohnson3340 True.
Fuck The Machine!
@@pauljohnson3340 Totally agree
The entire cast was perfection.
"I'd wish you good luck but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it"
Savage line.
This is one of the films that have stayed with me since I first saw them. Those jobs truly are the stuff of nightmares.
Jungleland33 work harder.
I hope you also saw "Margin Call". Similar "true life" great movie with outstanding writers and cast.
Yeah, alot of people can't be good salesmen....but some are just good at it. You know they are trying to sell you something but they get you to buy anyway. It really is an art...that and a lack of conscience to have your entire MO "just get them to sign"
@@mattm7798 It's the old saying "It's actually very easy to make a lot of money, if all you want to do is make a lot of money"
A loser is a loser
I tried phone sales in 1978, right after I got out of the Air Force. I couldn't sell a bucket of water to someone that was on fire. I made 50 bucks in two weeks and was fired.
oh yeah, I was a salesman. it's a tough racket 🥃
😅😅
Working for yellow pages in the 90s
"PUT the coffee DOWN. Coffee is for CLOSERS" I say that to my aged mother all the time and it always makes her laugh.
Would have been even more awesome if Alec Baldwin had slapped that coffee mug out of his hand.
It's nothing but dialogue.....so boring, just like the rest of the movies from the 80's-mid 90's that are about sales, who every thought making movies about sales was a good idea need to be spayed or de-balled
@@matsuyamaalex Scary-good acting and the dialogue of one of the top playwrites of his generation. I find some of the verbal interplay far more exciting than car crashes and such. For instance, Al Pacino picks up subtley on the suppressed homosexuality of his client played by famed actor Jonathan Pryce. Wow!
@@poetcomic1 yeah you probably think "get out" was good too!!!
Alec Baldwin is all ego and testosterone, if you fall for it that meens you're low key homosexuals....I hate idol worship!!! Al Pacino has been trying to fix the issues with Godfather 3 in every movie since, and Kevin Spacey has never played a different character don't believe me watch this then American Beauty. You'd be amazed to know to realize that you don't like the actor you like the first movie they were good in then hoped they'd continue the same character forever!!!
Holy shit, I hope Al Pacino gets that food out the back of his mouth
Scenes like this proved to me that being a salesperson is a dead art and should stay. No one likes a sales person anymore not even in retail why do you think Amazon is destroying all the commission based jobs in retail?
As a person who's been in sales there are such things as bad leads you can't take somebody who's brain dead like Alec Baldwin style of salesman and put him in the ghetto of north Saint Louis and expect him to pull money out of it, never has happen in never will...
As a matter of fact I've had this boss let acts just like Alec Baldwin before and he was the boss who sent me to the ghetto in Saint Louis I was there for a couple days and then he wondered why hadn't made a single penny then he decides to go down there for a week himself and didn't pull out one sale, and hes the best of the Tri-state area!!!
So yes there are such things as bad leads
@@matsuyamaalex ''Alec Baldwin is all ego and testosterone,'' No truer word. It's playing out in real life for Alec. Many are not fooled by him. But still many are fooled by him, 😂. I also hate idol worship.
I gave this same talk to my girls before they went to sell their Girl Scout cookies.
Fun fact: Pacino also did the stage version of this movie, only this time he played Jack Lemmon's role as Levine.
"Fuck YOU! That's my name!" This is arguably Alec Baldwin's finest performance and one of the more memorable moments in modern film.
That and “I am God” from Malice.
@@tomking7080 That was even Better.
@@tomking7080 The "GOD COMPLEX" was one of the best monologues in movie history...COMPELLING!!
IKR!!!!!..........I don't care if he is head of sales he tells me F**K YOU!!!!!! in my face he's going to get a fist sandwich before i quit.
@@johnhernandez495 I agree. Baldwin killed it
This was business in the 1980's in eight minutes.
I was there.....
Ed Harris is always good...we don't get to see enough of him in movies these days.
Woody harrelson is underrated too
Definitely Woody is excellent in just about everything
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Ed Harris in Westworld on HBO.
He still has fastball.
Yeah, Ed Harris is acting with sexed crazed, robots in Westworld. He’s doing well.
Take nothing away from Alex and the scene but Ed Harris gives an amazing and unsung performance in this scene IMO. Ed Harris makes the scene real...
Ed is great in this.
the best sales lecture i ever get in my whole life
“ The leads are weak!” The eternal battle between the sales force and management
There's never been a better sales meeting in a movie EVERRRRRRRRRRRRR Baldwin stole this movie in 8 minutes. OUTSTANDING
My friend was a top pharmaceuticals rep. The things he had to do to make a sale inclduing renting an entire movie theater when Star Wars: The Phantom Menace debuted. Physicians/Clients presumably got in free.
I studied sales in the eighties, wound up doing cold calling door to door for four years everything from advertising to assurance to hawking it was a tough life.
Very well acted. When Blake heard from Williamson that "Mr. Roma" was the only one not there for the meeting, he glanced at the Sales board and saw that Roma probably didn't need to be there anyway. Then he lit into Levene. :-)
"Fuck or walk" what an ultimatum? highly effective
Seen the movie at least a half dozen times and I still don't know what that line means.I guess I don't have brass balls.
Great movie
I like to imagine that this character always has those brass balls banging around in his briefcase, and he constantly pulls them out saying to everyone that it takes brass balls to sell real estate.
What if that's the only thing he had in his briefcase just that pair of brass balls
@@Rafael-ox5ou That, and a selection of knock-off Rolexes.
"I'd wish you good luck but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it."
Some of the coldest, truest words ever spoken.
I am a salesmen. This movie should be mandatory in business school because that is what business is...the bottom line. "Oh yeah, I use to be a salesmen, tuff racket (sip)!" Great line.
Exactly. My first sales job had us watch Boiler Room as a part of our training and at my next sales job, I showed them the ABC'S. By the next week, we had a "coffee is for closers" sign up in the break room.
You are aware, that they were all selling complete shit to unsuspecting customers, right? It was borderline fraud. In fact, what Roma was trying to pull on his lead was pretty much fraud.
@@OldManNutcakez That’s kind of the point. If you can close people selling garbage they know they shouldn’t have, imagine if they were selling something people actually wanted. Sales is sales.
I mean, it IS a tough racket. You have to have the attitude that Baldwin has in order to have the endurance to stay in it. Most people will go in and find it cool for a few months, maybe a year and then move on cause they don't like it, they can't take the bad hits and the fact that you sometimes need to get 100 No's in order to get a single Yes. etc etc etc.
Baldwin's character is right, if you don't have what it takes, just fucking leave.
So, selling is for ruthless, cold hearted sharks who thrive by taking advantage of people? Yeah, pretty virtuous 🙄
"I'd wish you good luck but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it!"
That line gets me every time. Anyone who's ever done a sales job loves that flick, classic.
Yeah, give salesman same repeat names to sell. Success is a choice. So is working for Assholes.
It's gay as fuck.
This is so iconic! I love his delivery of "PUT THE COFFEE DOWN"!
Put that coffee down!!!
*under the breath* it's for closers...
they cut out the part where he pulls out a gun and shoots the director
In fairness, that director was in third place.
His performance is so good that it was like the 8th time I watched it before I realized there is a storm outside.
what a cast !!
This scene was not in the original stage play, Mamet wrote this specifically for Baldwin so he could be part of this remarkable cast. You’ll notice Mamet didn’t write a gun into this scene so we can keep watching these great actors 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Okay, that was just masterfully done - here have your like. I'm probably going to hell based on how hard I laughed :-D
Yeah accidental deaths are always such a hoot right?! Fucking vulture.
Man that's a cold shot...
@@whatspadethinks Healing with humor, buddy... It can get us through some dark times - certainly has for me.
@@whatspadethinks back when Alec Baldwin was a good actor and
not a 3rd degree murderer.
You drove a Hyundai to get here tonight i drove an 80 thousand dollar BMW..That's my name.
I bet that Hyundai is still running.
@Eric Cartman like that watch that cost "more than your car" . i'm not a material person, which made it harder to get people to buy materialesque items. .............................busted....................i'm not a closer. no coffee for me. but sales is a tough racket.
Um most likely that Hyundai will last longer than that BMW the up keep of the Bmw will be way more expensive as well. Last time I checked you have to take BMW's to special places for repairs Hyundai's you can pretty much take them anywhere!!!
So that Hyundai not a bag little car then Alec Baldwin is full of shit
Scenes like this proved to me that being a salesperson is a dead art and should stay. No one likes a sales person anymore not even in retail why do you think Amazon is destroying all the commission based jobs in retail?
As a person who's been in sales there are such things as bad leads you can't take somebody who's brain dead like Alec Baldwin style of salesman and put him in the ghetto of north Saint Louis and expect him to pull money out of it, never has happen in never will...
As a matter of fact I've had this boss let acts just like Alec Baldwin before and he was the boss who sent me to the ghetto in Saint Louis I was there for a couple days and then he wondered why hadn't made a single penny then he decides to go down there for a week himself and didn't pull out one sale, and hes the best of the Tri-state area!!!
So yes there are such things as bad leads
You have never drank the closer's coffee, have you?
I actually like the knives
CARLOS A SOSA I actually need the knives, the original wedding gift set has dwindled to about two decent ones.
@Francis Joseph yes I am ! Thank you!
The rich get richer, that's the law of the land. Who belongs to the BM..........
Dave Moss is one of the best characters in movie history. Ed Harris should have won supporting actor for 3 years in a row for this performance.
this right here and his speech in malice is probably the pinnacle of baldwins career.
I thumbed you up because I tell people to watch Malice, just for the God complex speech at the deposition. I think Alec believed he WAS a surgeon and a brilliant one at that.
Amazing. Who would ever dislike this. It's the way of the world baby.
I used to tele sell mobile phones during that Nokia 8210 era. Got a salary and one beer for every sale and made more sales when drunk. Fun times.
I had one of those. The birth of texting.
this is a perfect example that if you are not willing to lie, cheat and steal, don't get into sales. Cuz your boss doesn't give a shit about you, only your numbers.
I was doing sales when this movie came out. It was a tough job because nothing came easy. This movie was so depressing. Yes it's well done and probably the best for portrayal of Motivation by motivating guy. But let's just say overtime I found a new career I am now a family doctor.
Im a ball polisher.
There is NOTHING motivational about the speech. Its nothing but a beat down speech meant to degrade everyone. There is not ONE training tip in the speech. not one.
@@ricktheitalianrebel6687 agree. The top salesman in the team (Al Pacino character) wasn’t in the meeting because like most successful salespeople they put more pressure on themselves than the Baldwin character could ever do.
The guys in the room aren’t valued by their employer and sadly the “third place you’re fired” reference is standard within many sales organisations nowadays where the bottom 5-10% of staff are subject to an annual cull (reduction in force).
"What's your name, Doctor?"
"FUCK YOU! That's my name!!! Sorry, force of habit..."
The ol switcheroo from salesman to doctor eh? Lmao it makes complete sense that you were a shit salesman trying to sell us on this idea
Too many great quotes to count in one speech!
Those are some nice looking steak knives.
They look like a K-Mart special in that packaging.
@@gj8683 he got them on a blue light special during black friday. Lucky man.
I always watch this when I need motivation for my business, it works like a charm! Damn great cast, and Alec owned it!
To sell something the other doesn't really need, makes a bad karma for you
So you're one of the guys listening to Springsteen's Born in the USA thinking it's patriotic. Whoosh...
@jvaish
You have to be in the Midland USA or in the North East of America to actually get it
Jack Lemmon role is heartbreaking because he’s living the role of a salesman but he’s pushing aside family issues and to see this old man resort to greedy politics.the line where Shelly is fixing to go turn him and he’s says “daughter” is the cool reality of this business and the look on lemonade face the realization of self respect and what he’s willing to do to get those leads and make that sale.
And then the Do Not Call list came into existence and they all were fired
It's nothing but dialogue.....so boring, just like the rest of the movies from the 80's-mid 90's that are about sales, who every thought making movies about sales was a good idea need to be spayed or de-balled
Scenes like this proved to me that being a salesperson is a dead art and should stay. No one likes a sales person anymore not even in retail why do you think Amazon is destroying all the commission based jobs in retail?
As a person who's been in sales there are such things as bad leads you can't take somebody who's brain dead like Alec Baldwin style of salesman and put him in the ghetto of north Saint Louis and expect him to pull money out of it, never has happen in never will...
As a matter of fact I've had this boss let acts just like Alec Baldwin before and he was the boss who sent me to the ghetto in Saint Louis I was there for a couple days and then he wondered why hadn't made a single penny then he decides to go down there for a week himself and didn't pull out one sale, and hes the best of the Tri-state area!!!
So yes there are such things as bad leads
@@matsuyamaalex It's counterproductive anyway.
SPOILER
He makes some of them desperate enough to rip the joint off.
Many sales people still call on cell phones with a spoof number and ignore the no soliciting signs posted
Rutt Roe dumbass
Pacino is not in the scene because he is out on a sales call. Having a drink with a client.
He was purposely written out of this scene. The rest of the sales agents sat there, listened to what he was saying, and took his abuse, thereby making this the best scene (IMO)in the movie. The Pacino character, on the other hand, would've told this guy to F off, would not have sat there quietly, and would have given it right back to the Baldwin character. David Mamet certainly knows what he's doing.
Good thing for Alec, as Al would have tore him to shreds and eaten him with balsamic vinegar dressing! NO ONE can scream/yell better than Mr. Pacino! (Ray Liotta is a close second).
@@kendallevans4079 Yup. You don't want to get him started.
"...but you DON'T get to watch MY tv...."!!!@stirange
Al Pacino’s character was their best salesman and didn’t need to be there in the first place.
Riveting movie. Close to perfect. Just brilliant acting can’t find a flaw anywhere 👍👍
The SNL Santa’s Workshop spoof of this is amazing!
Leads, I need leads!, One of the finest ensemble jobs ever. They all deserved an Oscar
Not leads...the good leads!
I love that Jack Lemon said this movie should have been titled “Death of a Fucking Salesman“
If anybody thinks this isn`t real, this shits too crazy to happen in real life, you`ve never been in à real sales gig. I found myself in this racket, right out of high school. started from the bottom, like the street rat I was back in the day, early 20s, literally had NOTHING in my life, sometimes i`d go to bed thinking, if this was all there was to life, I didn`t wanna live out the rest of it, seriously.... I was talked to like this for years early on back in those days, almost every morning.... Brutally beaten up psychologically, built up from the ground up, became quite the monster, a warrior that never took no for an answer, not on my sits... When I didn`t sell, when I couldn`t close, I didn`t eat. my life was that simple back then, I had no salary, no basic pay, no minimum wage.... I worked HARD for every dollar. For me sales was a war , me vs all of them, I destroyed anyone keeping me from achieving my goals (very important to set goals in life, little ones - big ones, write em all down, imagine it over and over again, dream about em, let it be a plague in your life, never stop thinking about em) For me, that meant being ruthless, greedy, despicable... My boss would have a big board up in the office back in those days, your sales figures and income were posted on a big wall, updated daily by the managers for everyone to see. So we all knew each others successes, we knew when people were failing, starving etc etc, the boss used the board as a motivator, he wanted everyone to know who the losers in the office were, and the winners to aspire to. Most ppl couldn`t handle it. We had MEGA turn over, some people wouldn`t last a day in training... I was one of the best by the time I was 25, took years to master the art of selling for me, most people can`t do it, can`t handle the stress, they don`t have the right temperament for the job. Today, I`m 38. semi-retired, fancy cars, luxury cars, fast cars, got em all, the house, everything really... put your mind into something, commit to something completely, and you will succeed, guaranteed, in anything you do with your life, fitness, work, family etc... Thats what I teach young people now when they ask me about the sales gig, about running a company, start-ups etc.... most of the time I`m wasting my time, kids today can`t fucking toast bread let alone survive running their own businesses, pathetic really when I look at how kids are today.... anyways thats my rant, hope you enjoyed.
Glad to see we're getting rid of assholes like you.
I’ve been in high pressure sales since 1998 and this is one of the best scenes for any type of sales. “Fuck you,that’s my name “
When you know, you know. I used to work sales, but I burnt out. I damn near always hit my quota and loved every minute of it. IMO sales is just like chess, you gotta be smarter than your opponent and always think ahead.
Best Ted Talk ever. Changed my life.
“Your name’s Levine? You call yourself a salesman you son of a bitch?” I say this every morning to the guy who rings up my coffee at the local Casey’s. He always responds with “coffee’s for closers only”.
brilliant dialogue and one of alec baldwin's best scenes ever.
some actors have trouble with David Mamet's dialogue but Baldwin isn't one of them
That pep talk was so good I've decided to buck up!
Exactly what a sales position is like. 😂 You close or you hit the bricks!
Fortunately, there was no need for Alex to handle any guns in this film.
A masterclass of acting!
I have been in sales off and on my entire life and I have run into people like the character played by Alec Baldwin. Also, the role that Al Pacino plays must have been researched very well. There are guys just like that out there in the "sales" world. I too would have walked on that meeting - no one could be so desperate to have to sit in a meeting like that. Too many other decent opportunities out there!
Alec Baldwin's only scene and it's the one that everybody remembers about this movie. That's acting.
A million great scenes by gifted actors in this movie. Great, no doubt, but this is just one of them. Jack Lemmon is the best actor I've ever seen.
Truly, the most inspirational and motivating speech ever!
"Have you made your decision for Christ??!"
I always loved how the letter "B" in his "A-B-C" only stood for "be"
I've dealt with the Baldwin characters in the past. They all share some things in common. 1. They live in a financial house of cards. When it collapses, it's a catastrophe. 2. They have failed marriages. They're lousy dads and their kids hate them. 3. They have no friends. None. Zero. Zip. Nil. Null. 4. When the money runs out, and it always does, they end up working at a third-rate casino dealing Blackjack. 5. They die young.
"you can't close shit-- you ARE SHIT! " one of the best overlooked lines
I used to train call centers. Yes I took those annoying scripts and tore them up. I trained people to realize that they are imposing on someone’s valuable time and asking them for money to boot. You have one chance to offer them your product , grab their attention and secure the sale whilst gaining their loyalty and growing your pipeline with referrals and return clients.
Part of my “homework” was I told everyone on day one (3 day workshop”) to watch this movie and Boiler Room. Then ask them , do you “sell” or do you create a relationship that is valuable to both parties? This is the difference between then and now.
You seem to be a darn good supervisor with this comment.
Dale Carnage would agree with you.
Thanks for the pep talk, coach!
I love Shelly Levene's(Jack Lemmon) face when he's saying the brass balls line. LOL
They made sure to get Spacey into the Brass Balls scene I see LOL
I don't get it
Mike Russo he molested a young boy
That’s fucking crazy
The foreshadow l
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@Shannon Legg LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
Put - That - Coffee Down! ...Coffee is for Closers ONLY! lol
Jack Lemon's look @ 4:50 = Priceless
Alec Baldwin's daughter disliked this video 11 times.
Incredible performance. Regardless of Baldwin now, this movie is one of the best you will ever see. One thing, 30 years later, a hyandai is now better than a BMW
I'm here from downtown.....
That would be a very good speech for any businees meeting for any sport like football. Classic scene from a good movie.😊
Car biz in the mid 90’s. A lot of truth to this scene..
JOSHUA LAMBERT got the same speech from the owner of the dealership I worked at when I was 20. Some old geezer came on the lot with a walker and oxygen tank and I let him go. I didn’t know what to think or say. Just stood there quiet and confused. Quit as soon as I finished the year and keyed some cars before I left. Fuck that guy.
JOSHUA LAMBERT I've been there man, and that was rough.I don't miss trying to sell cars to people with no money and no credit, and being blamed when they can't buy. Oftentimes, their trade-in was junk too. They were upside down on a 200,000 mile beater that barely ran.😒😒😒
Lee Jackson you see some grotesque sides of people during sales
They are selling real estate.
@@teddy_bearc_bolten3885 i'm not a closer. trying to sell *hit to people that you can tell are poor (in home sales), that have no need for the crap you're peddling. a closer goes in and sends them deeper into debt.
Geez, the tension in that room was so great I thought Baldwin was going to shoot somebody.
"you think this is abuse?" .... "then how can you take the abuse you take on a sit?" ... GOLD ....
Brilliant scene...