How Far Can You Take a Stock Turbo N54 BMW?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this video I take my high mileage N54 powered BMW 335i to the track to see what it runs in the 1/4 mile.. I also did a data log via MHD and looked at the results using virtual dyno.
My car is setup full bolt on, the mods list includes:
Intercooler
Inlets
Outlets
Down pipes
Dual Cone Intakes
MHD Stage 2 + tune E50 Mix
Walbro 450 LPH E85 Compatible Low Pressure Fuel Pump
This video also has a quick clip of the 2018 Q50 Red Sport running JB4 at the track.
We also quickly compared results using Draggy to the results at the track.
Link to Draggy:
www.burgertunin...
I also talk about MHD V8 Beta Maps and how much of a difference there is compared to V7.
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Running very strong with high mileage very impressive
Love the radar detector at the strip. Very interesting.
Nice N54 man, keep it up with the quality vids and facts. I'm still impressed at the mileage.
My N54 Has192k miles 2007 stage 2 plus also in the houston area she runs good still but i always try to baby her cause i don't know too much about them but im hoping my turbos will hold im still on same turbos they were never replaced
Xhp gearbox remap will make the gears faster and launch quicker. I knocked quite abit of time in my 1/4 miles with xhp
Hybrid turbos will wake that thing up in the top end. I have a 2007 335i with the same exact mods as you plus pure stage 2dd turbos and the top end as well as the bottom end power is amazing. I run about 45%ethanol with 21psi of boost.
what did you run 1/4 mile ??
Nice, do you have an auto transmission? Any idea how much torque your car is making now? I heard the upper limit of the AT is 550 WTQ.
i dynoed mine at 441 whp and 535 wtq... it can handle 600wtq but you can also tune for that so that you lower the torque off the line where it does the most damage to the tranny... ps2dd can make 600wtq for sure
also not sure if you have XHP but it helps with the shift speed and the torque limit
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I have a manual transmission. But the autos are usually good for about 600wtq and your not going to make that with out port injection. Usually with n54 cars with full bolt one on hybrid turbos on an E85 mix 500-500whp and Tq is pretty standard.
123K miles with JB4 and Meth and easily still smoke most challengers. Time to do another walnut blast though as thar made a huge diff the first time I did it.
I thought meth helped keep the valves clean
@@IN54ANE I don't run meth inj all the time. The oil catch can helps a lot with the valves though.
Great Video. Thank you. This is why I just love BMW's. This car has lived a very full entire life as a daily for someone getting them to work each day and driving them on trips etc. Then they sold it to you. You have now (All on the same engine and most of it's original parts) a serious sport machine running drag times and ripping daily. (I'm not sure if you daily this car) but it's just amazing that a car can do all of this. Yes it takes maintenance and some up grades but compared to so many cars this car is in a class of it's own. Until every other manufacturer has been trying to emulate it. LOL. Compared cost of making this car make reliable 450hp and 450 torque is nothing compared to most other cars.
I believe there’s a company called propulsive dynamics that was making new disks Materials for the N54 AT. They claim to hold around 700WHP.
Hell yes that's inspiring, she hauls!
You super need an Lsd but they are costly, in the mean time at least do a xHP transmission flash for faster shift speed.
Edward Wild no need for lsd.. the current stock turbo record cut a 1.5 60ft on limited slip diff.. it’s all about knowing how to launch
1:10 Wow! That Cadillac can really move! Gotta love a wagon that can get out of it's own way like that! A 12 second car on totally stock internals plus stock turbos says that is ONE incredible car! Thre is nothing like it out there for the money you can get the N54 going like this!! Seriously I watched a Video that was talking about how much money it takes to build a 335i N54 into a hugely fast car. Well it's totally relative. What does he mean a "really fast car?" If he means a an 8 second drag car then yes it's gonna take some cash to buy all the beefed up parts you must have to be able to launch a car on a prepped surface and get it making that type of speed. But at that point it's no longer an N54 335i. It's a home bui;lt drag car that has parts from the biggest drag companies everywhere. But to make a 600- 700 hp and 600- 700 torque reliably running street machine that is classy and has great looks that you can even drive to work each day (yes you still need to do extra maintenance to have a car that will do that) but it's incredible! You can spend $15,000 on a Supercharger kit for a V8 of any kind and almost get there but the cost of everything it takes including the cost of the car is going to be HUGE!
Great information, the next level always empties your bank account.
Impressive. I wish BMW took a page from Toyota's book when making the N54. I guess Germany didn't want their #2 car in the 3 series line up dethroning the M3... pity. Only the enthusiasts suffered.
Yo that CTSV Wagon squatted and took the fuck off!
I ran 12.5 in my 2010 535i with no inlets or outlets or FMIC at 115 mph. I was initially upset with the trap but my stock FMIC was heat soaked as hell. I was running the E50 map as well at the time with XHP.
Just drove the car for the first time with the MMP S3’s tonight and what a difference! I’ll post a video soon but the car is getting a upgraded LPFP, plugs, Tmap, and custom tune. I now have outlets and inlets and FMIC. Can’t wait till I bring her to the track again to see what’s up!
That's awesome, how much did the S3's set you back if you don't mind me asking? With all that you should be deep into the 11s. I have an Aplina tune on the transmission. I'm going to look into XHP. This weekend I'm swapping out all the transmission solenoids and doing the valve body seals etc to beef it up. The shifts have started to get a little harsh. No slip at all luckily.
Vehicular DIY yeah check out my XHP video. The shifts are retarded fast! PM me and I’ll let you know how much everything ran me! I hope it lands me in the 11’s! Today everything will be done so I’ll get the tune dialed in and hit the dyno and track
That are great data for this car. Keep it going!!
Just pick up a 09 135i with a leaking turbo. Most of the FBO has already been put on with a few other upgraded items and custom tune though cobb pushing 350whp. I got some RB chras billets on the way, new water pump, oil change kit and injector 12s on the way. I'll be about 11k in the car when I'm done. Hope to get 400whp and 450lbs tq on pump gas.
149,000 miles, everything you have except outlets. Wedge Performance custom E50 flash. 2.08 60 foot, 12.08 @ 119.7 mph. 120+ Trap speeds on some 12.2 passes. I now have xHP no rear cats, should easily do high 11's now possibly 11.8x's. (All season radials 255/40R18) Removing the rear cats really improved power above 5000 rpm. I have xHP programmed to shift at 5700 rpm, turbos are max'd, no point in even revving to 6000. Should trap 122-123 mph now. Probably the original turbos based on waste gate rattle , MHD waste gate rattle fix all the way to the left and they still rattle on decel and some at idle. I outrun Mustang GT's, Challenger RT's, etc... Even made a hellcat owner real mad, I don't know if he was in track mode, I assume he would have switched when he tried to make the second run at me (first run side by side). I kept him behind me and he had a run on me coming from behind. Mine is the ultimate sleeper because I still have the stock mufflers and I can close the flapper on the left muffler with a switch, sounds stock with it closed. I have it on a pressure switch, if I forget it opens automatically at 3.5-4 psi boost.
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I’m at 220k miles on my e92 N54 with original internals still. I actually just posted a video with the valve cover off.
Have been FBO/tune the last 20k miles and runs smoother now than when I got it.
Awesome, these N54 motors seems to last. I'm surprised we're not hearing of stories of bad rod bearings etc as the miles rack up.
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Great Videos! You've saved me thousands!
I always wondered how would my n54 335i keep up with an f10 m5 with bolt ons and a good tune. Did you roll race an f10 m5?
I ran against a stock M5 on the track with my 335i
ruclips.net/video/VwIe_kidmOw/видео.html
Just intake, mhd 1+ e40 leaving from idle I get 12.2 at 116mph consistently. 106,000 odometer
More videos like this please. Is this with an Xhp s3 tranny tune?
I want paddle shifters on my 09 535i 😢
Have you replaced crankhub ? I heard stories about n55/s55 i dont know about n54
i think there is a lot more in it with the mods that you have. Mine is a 2007 335i running e40 with stock fuel pump and stock downpipes and i ran a 11.95 @ 116 on street tires... im sure ill get that number down to 11.5 with proper tires and adding downpipes and inlets... should trap over 120 with those mods !!you gotta get that 60 foot down below 2.0 and you will have a much better time !
ruclips.net/video/VwIe_kidmOw/видео.html here is my 11.9 run
116 mph with the mods you have is very strong, I'm running an off the shelf tune. Are you running a custom tune?
yes, custom tune by wedgeperformance 21.5psi on e40...it definitely helps over the ots maps, but it still tapers hard up top, so thats where the inlets will help a ton and hopefully get me to 11.5 ...thats my goal with stock turbos
Oh I see you answered my question here, so you're pushing 3 psi more than my car. Inlets were awesome when I put them on, big difference straight away. I'll see about reaching out to Wedge. Thanks for the info.
Great video as always
I need to upgrade my N54 injectors to 12s. Other than that I have jb4 with methanol. Yours has a lot of new bolt ons and runs better than new!!!
Edit: My 335i Coupe is at 139k miles. What you throw on it next?
I was able to get a 12.1 @115 with mine Fbo stage 2+ e30
Great video, I wonder what one Idiot who hated on this great informational video, but then again there's always one Hater in every group. Good info my brother, keep up the great content!
Nice bro ..keep em coming
Looking at car like this it has 200k miles stock. Dude said the turbos need to be replaced cause of black smoke. Is this common? I know nothing about bmws but was thinking if I get it I want to put the turbos you got on it and start updating everything.
I did 12.543 with the only upgrades being downpipes and intakes. For fuel 3 gallons 92 octane 2 gallons 110 octane on map 7. On run flats lol
Swap the differential to an limited slip, mine digs out of first gear now, I have no clue why tf they're allowed to have all that power with an open diff, I guess they still needed a reason to sell the m3 😂
Yes exactly. BMW did deliberately hobble the 335 and 135 to be able sell the M cars.
@@kneecaps2000 lmao that's what I was guessing. Is that actually true?
@@anthonywright5275 Yeah totally true. Who would pay 25k more for the M3 if the 335i had almost the same spec.
I have a 07 335i with ebay downpipes and intercooler, new chras with billet compressor wheels running e40 mhd tune and I ran 12.3 at 116 mph at 600 ft elevation
Thanks for the schooling on mileage, i was very interested in that, quick question thats even if this guy is still here, so what was the psi you were maximizing those turbos on? And how high can they go on an MHD tune?
You can push them to about 21.5 PSI. They'll last longer at maximum of 18.5 psi.
@@VehicularDIY Thank you for that, would you happen to know the stock psi setting on the turbos?
@@jurzyjohner432 No more than 11 psi but it will be lower based on temperature. Stock boosts LESS as it gets colder to maintain the same power level...
Great video i got a quick question I got FBO 2007 e90 n54 but I only have access to 91oct in California how much E85 should I use for a e25 mix?
You can run up to E40 if your low pressure fuel pump is healthy. You'd want to monitor your pressure to ensure it's holding over 50 PSI at wide open throttle.
Also how did you get those paddle shifters? Is it a direct swap?
Not exactly, I made a video on it. Look for a steering wheel conversion video on my channel.
I can’t wait to go stage 2+ on my e61. How much is peak boost with stage2? I’m currently on stage1+ & max psi is around 18.5 or 18.9 which isn’t bad to get the wagon moving 🤪 still need to get downpipes & probably outlets jst in case the plastic ones blows up ha haaa
I think it's the same amount of boost at around 18 but has more timing.
Thanks for sharing! Curious what is peak psi target on that beta map? I'm also not wanting to push it much farther then what you have because of running an auto trans 535i.Looking to flash XHP soon.
Np! It targets 18.5 psi I believe and tapers down.
Definitely get an xhp tune, my 09 335 shifts and rev matches so damn well now, manuals lose about 3 feet on me every time they shift
are we going to see head bolts flying???
If so you can count on a DIY on how to fix it lol. The N54 seems to cope with high boost pretty well. Even with an open deck block people are pushing way more boost without issue.
You need smoothing set to 5 that's the standard. I'm only on DPs, IC and V8 Stage 2+ and doing 420whp...
You need tires..I'm FBO except exhaust an no tune no walnut blast took my car all season tires 255s spun so much ran only three times my best 14.8 went next week with r88rs 275 ran 13.5 no tune or walnut blast yet
Yeah tires make a world of difference, I'm running Pilot Super Sports so they're half decent.
since you are fbo why not load a tune ?? MHD is the way to do ... you can thank me in an hour after loading it !!
Do you daily drive with the E50 tune?
How much do u think the xdrive models can handle? I dont think nearly as much as the rwd models
Not 100% sure on that, I think the transfer case becomes an issue over 500 WHP.
@@VehicularDIY i would imagine
Is MHD honestly any better then bm3 for PWG?! Seen so many rumors about it but no facts
Sorry I don't have much experience with BM3.
Sorry I don't have much experience with BM3.
M3 gauges?
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I didnt see the flag on your launch so i guess you didnt launch it hard?
No I didn't, just brake torqued it a bit.
Was the mustang stock?
The one I raced at night probably was, sounded like an exhaust. The white one during the day definitely wasn't, it should have been deep into the 11s but he was spinning.
You running on e50 now right ? Do you think you can run a little faster with e70 ?
From what I've heard past e60 you won't see any power benefits on the n54
Why does the title say stock???????????
I believe he's referencing stock turbo as in it still is using the stock 10t turbos. I agree the title could use some clarification.
I thought he had installed dynamics autowerks turbos stage 2 ?