A Farmer Mistakenly Drank His Own Herbicide. This Is What Happened To His Brain.
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If a farmer ever shows up to the ER room, you know that he has made a horrible mistake and that the clock is ticking on his life.
That should have been their first clue that death was eminent.
If a farmer comes into the hospital, it is red alert time.
Thats not a good thing tho. Farmers should take better care of themselves, routine checkups would go a long way.
Or, alternatively, their family makes them go and it's not deadly but is serious and has been going on for days or serious and chronic and going on for months. IE "didn't realize it was even broken" syndrome (like my grandma and grandpa)
On the doctor glaucomflecken channel he makes fun of farmers, apparently in rural medicine they are famous for not going to the dr/hospital unless they are literally dying.
Someone who goes to the hospital right away and tells doctors what happened?! What a nice change of pace.
Too bad in this case it was an irreversible action. RIP
If a farmer does that, you know it's extremely serious, a matter of life and death
I know right, like tell the ER docs everything if you want to increase your chances of living. Poor guy.
And a farmer as well! Farmers tend to like to tough it out.
and yet he still didnt see a nurse until an hour after he arrived
Poor guy. Such a small mistake, and he did everything right immediately after, but it still cost him his life. I'm glad he was at least able to say goodbye to his family.
Such a stupid mistake ...
@@lizsteeds6697We all make stupid mistakes. Sometimes it costs us our lives.
Maybe he couldve vomited on the spot instead of running into bathroom and call the ambulance to get charcoal and stomach pump on the way to hospital? 2 hrs earlier?
@whygamewhy Panic and adrenaline rob you of a lot of your higher thought. If you haven't experienced it then it sounds ridiculous. Having experienced it myself I can tell you it isn't that easy. Also, considering he made it to the bathroom and still wasn't able to induce vomiting it likely wouldn't have made a difference.
@@bigmackstar1I mean putting chemicals into food containers is dangerous. Doing it while having food on the bench so you could confuse the two is really reckless. It's the chemistry equivalent of looking down a barrel of a gun you're semi confident in isn't loaded.
When he said "it's too late", that got me. The whole video I was hoping he would make at least a partial recovery. Farmers are such hard workers, and they supply us with so much of what we need to survive. Often a thankless job, and few people know just how backbreaking it is, nor really appreciate it unless told about it. He made an honest but deadly mistake. I hope his family pulls through.
And all their money gets stolen by farm landlords and John Deere
And all their money gets stolen by farm landlords and John Deere
Farming is dangerous. There are a lot of accidents and deaths. God bless farmers.
This one was not the brightest either
It’s sad that they have to work with such deadly chemicals. It would be nice if they could find a way to farm without them.
My God, that guy is so talented. First he set up his podcast, got his MD, set up a food truck business, and now a farmer? What a truly talented man.
Reminds me of a certain bald man...
More like a jack of all trades, master of none since he’s almost killed himself several times
Johnny Sins, is that you?
glad he recovered from the case of death from the accidental cow anti-biotic injection too
😂😂😂😂 right awe inspiring indeed and has defeated death many times
I knew herbicide was toxic, but I didn’t realized one sip would kill a full grown man. That’s mindblowingly potent.
I used to go hard on super drugs I had no issue handling fent and sub MG chemicals. My family thought I was nuts my family has been handing paraquat and other evil ass pesticides for a long time.
Wonder why his wife died of lung cancer at 33? My two cousins and uncle had a paraquat accident and took a face full. I think they will die of cancer at some point. People don't realize how ridiculously toxic some of the shit they handle because they do it for work and become complacency
it was a big gulp not a sip
Yet most herbicides still don't kill all the weeds....go figure
It is. One of my relatives took his life by drinking Folidol which is an insecticide. He had major organ failure and passed away in hospital after three days.
The stuff you can get when you have a sprayer license is crazy. It can kill plants in mere minutes. Some you even have to wear a full suit
I can't imagine working on your farm one minute, making a freak mistake the next, then going to the ER where they tell you, "Yeah, you're pretty much dead and you have about one hour before we put you into a medically-induced coma you will never wake up from."
God... rest in peace, GW.
If on that farm you are used to storing herbicides next to sport drinks that you consume, it is very easy to imagine.
the word was "may" NOT "will" NOt wake up
My uncle was run over by his own tractor, knocked off the tractor by a tree branch he didn't see and it ran over his leg. Luckily he had his phone on him and he called 911
A great example of why you should always keep all chemicals in their original packaging.
In Poland there was an accident in a restaurant, two cooks burned their tongues (quite important for cooks) and throats because the technician who came to clean kitchen gear had a cleaning agent in a Sprite bottle. By unfortunate coincidence, they also had a Sprite for drinking that day.
Or better yet, label them as such.
Most pesticides are meant to be diluted by anywhere from 100x to 2000x so that’s really scary that he took an entire gulp, definitely a wake-up call as a farmer, thanks doc
He/it says "gulp" or "Swig" and Im thinking it was probably two because I've been overheated like that on a hot humid day like re-roofing my roof and know I went in and got some ice tea or something out of the fridge and just guped down a couple of mouthfulls fast.
We've got a small campaign in the UK called "Dying to Feed You" which is about raising awareness of death and injury in farming, it's one of the jobs with the highest risk of death, in part because of lone working with heavy machinery or over familiarity breeding lack of care
This one says dilute 50/50 for a hand sprayer, but true to form some idiot who bought the product and left a review on Amazon not only DOUBLED the concentration he also added Roundup to it because "someone" told him it was a good idea!
From an Amazon review;
"OK maybe just me but this stuff is the apocalypse's answer to weeds. Now I was told to use 1 oz of this to a gallon of Roundup. Holy mother of all weed destruction. Now because I'm "THAT GUY" I put 2 oz into a gallon and looks like I was spraying AGENT ORANGE, IT KILLS EVERYTHING. So, that was my plan, so beware,"
Stay safe and thanks for doing what you do 💜❤️
@@MazHemthat’s so true, sounds like a great awareness program!
Poor guy, aside from drinking the herbicide he did everything right. He tried to induce vomiting to get it out of his body, went straight to the hospital, and told them exactly what happened. All it took was one small mistake for him to lose his life
No, inducing vomiting is no longer the recommended approach to poisoning.
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@@myotismyotis why?
@@in6587my guess is because of what happened here, he couldn't do it so it just wasted time when he could've gone straight to hospital
@@mormerillPoison Control Centers advise against forced vomiting, due to the chance of aspiration of the stomach contents.
Okay guys, this one made me cry. Imagine having to unexpectedly say goodbye to your loved one knowing that that's probably the last time you will see them.
Back in the days when plastic wasn't really a thing, my grandpa used glass bottles to decant various liquids. He never used drink or food bottles, painted the bottles a disgusting color, and kept it all under lock and key.
The lectures on safety were my favorite, because that's the only time we were allowed in the workshop. Cedar and small engine oil, with a bit of magnolia and pinks from the garden, are what safety and love smell like to me. Weird, but nice
My sister is lead grower in a greenhouse and the amount of times she's had to tear someone a new one for improperly dispensing pesticides and herbicides is too many to count. This should be mandatory viewing during your spraying certification classwork.
Hard way to learn a lesson, never put poison in a beverage container. Without proper labeling and use instructions bad things happen.
greenhouses grow lead?
Best to use organic techniques.
glad to hear she takes her job seriously. first line of defense! go her!
It's a pretty loose operation to begin with if there's a constant necessity for persticides in greenhouses.
Being a farmer sure seems to be dangerous to one's health given all these poisonings and skin cancers.
And mishaps with machinery.
It's a job where you use toxic chemicals and dangerous machinery on the daily. Accidents are bound to happen.
Lazy and relying on poisons. Serves them right.
And large animals.
thats why everything they do is basically funded by the government. in a real country.
This made me think of a story my dad used to tell us. His boss (a farmer) always put some drink out for him next to the sink, so he could drink it after his work. But then one time he opened the bottle and smelled a heavy smell. It was hydrochloric acid. He said he was really happy that he smelled something was wrong before he took a gulp of it. This could've gone really wrong!
This makes me so glad that I smell pretty much everything I eat or drink before consuming it, especially if I didn't prep it myself.
Why did his boss do that!
Through no fault of his medical team who obviously worked tirelessly with this patient during the process, I can't stop thinking about how cruel it is to be told of inevitable total-organ failure and being made to experience it over the course of 2 weeks before passing.
Thankful he got to spend time with his family with the reality of it being a likely goodbye, but if I had been told the same horrible prognosis and summary of events that would happen inside my body... there's no way I would be ok being forced to experience the whole process (conscious or not). Let alone making family members see that happen to you and being virtually helpless.
It's their job to do exactly what was done for this patient, but I'm curious if doctors think the same thing, and how they're able to maintain the spirit to keep going when cases like this arise.
Did any of the care he recieved prolong the inevitable shutdown and thus extend his suffering? And what of his family who is left with the roiling emotional trauma and undoubtedly insane hospital bill.
I work as a horticulturist in Australia. We are trained to never decant chemicals into anything that resembles a drink bottle.
Great job on this video. Very well researched.
I was taught to check what I'm about to drink.
As someone whose from a 3rd world country
Y’all have something to drink?
In India farmers drink it when the draught gets very bad.
@@ffwastYou should never rebottle a chemical into anything except the apparatus used to apply it.
@@ffwast He did check but accidentally put the herbicide label on the sports drink. This isn't a dangerous problem if you only put drinks in drink bottles.
Number one rule: don’t put herbicide together with drinks. Nuts. The idea of getting those two products from the same shelf seems bonkers.
Yup Use any container you never ever would drink out
@@KonradvonHotzendorfi reuse food and drink containers, but I tend to try to differentiate them to avoid things like this, or swallowing pure vodka thinking it was water-only made that mistake once. 😅
Yup I wouldn't even use a sports/electrolyte replenishment drink bottle to put chemicals in since they're a bit thicker and can be reused for other drinks as long as you clean that neck of the bottle well, don't forget to wash the main part out as well.
Those thinner lighter water bottles though can be used that way unless it's a chemical that can eat through plastic, I feel like that type of bottle is good enough for most weed killers though.
Or the best option (for those of us in the urbz and suburbs) is to recycle to redeem your bottle fee, if your state offers it.
Not to mention the fact that anything you're drinking is likely to have been refrigerated. Even if they were in the same container, unless you're wearing gloves, this should be a dead giveaway.
Also, who would drink something that's been stored outside for that long?
I am really suprised he actually understood the severity of his situation and immediately went to the doctor and told them everything that had happened
Eh, not that surprising really. The majority would react in the same manner unless they've already succumbed to the damages.
I'm surprised you're surprised. Herbic kills plants. It's basically poison. Not that hard to understand it would be bad for animals.
And humans are animals
He probably had read the label on the original container of the herbicide and knew he totally screwed up.
Tbh even without reading the label, intuitively you can't think a product designed to kill is a good idea to injest
In South Korea Paraquat (referred to as Gramoxone here) poisoning is prevalent in rural areas despite its use being banned decades ago and it is commonly known as the worst way to commit suicide in the country. The second I saw the word Diquat I knew it had something to do with Paraquat...
My family farmed for decades and rule #1 was never have food/drink by the chemicals.
I got such a butt chewing for having a PB&J sammich in hand when I walked into our barn.
I feel so bad for this dudes family.
I don't blame them for being so mad at you lol! Chubby said its possible to save someone who ingested one-to-two DROPS of this stuff. Anyone who eats or drinks around this stuff is playing a terrible game of chance.
@@H3LLS4NG3L the over reaction from my dad at the young of an age made me have a VERY healthy respect for chemicals in general. Even more so with items that have insane LD50’s.
Reminds me of most of my high school/undergrad chem courses, where the teacher would basically tell you to get the hell out of their class if you so much as had a bottle of water. And rightfully so!
@@ecardecardian7839 I had literal nightmares about HF spills in my college lab (working lab, not learning lab). I'm a physicist and chemical handling is necessary in my line of work, but its scary as shit thinking about the damage that can be done by some of the chemicals. Be safe out there in whatever you do!
In fairness to the guy, it was probably an unconscious move brought on by the tactile feel of the drink bottle in his hand. That split second leading up to the oh crap moment. I could see this happening with someone who drank a lot of that particular sports drink.
I can only imagine how terrifying it was for him to go "I accidentally swallowed this stuff," not sure of the severity of it, and the last thing he will have remembered was giving advanced directives because he found out that it would likely kill him. Just that quick it goes from "I accidentally swallowed this" to "This may be the last time you're conscious," and it was.
This herbicide is terrifying.
Honestly. And to think this way of dying happens way more often than the living of us ever want to consider, in innumerable scenarios. I’m agnostic…I hope whatever occurs after death, any which way, he was at peace.
FYI, all herbicides (and pesticides) are pretty horrific. And the USA has very poor regulation of them. You should remember that next time you go to a farmer's market thinking you're gonna get "healthier" food. You will not.
That shit gets in your food.
@@chickenlover657 it’s still better
@@chickenlover657 Most people I know who buy there don't do it because of hoping for less pesticides though...
Farmers are such hard workers, they give us crops we need and love my prayers go out to his family 🕊️
Put all the dangerous chemicals in a dedicated cabinet, put all your MSDS in a RED binder, and hang that binder from a hook mounted on the door(s) of the dedicated cabinet, so even if you haven’t read every MSDS, you are constantly reminded of the dangers of mishandling these compounds. The more experienced you are, the more important it is to get these constant reminders because it’s easy to take things for granted as it gets more and more routine/mundane.
Edit: metal cabinet. Another one for flammables. There are products designed for these purposes in particular.
Good advice.
a farmer WILLINGLY went to the doctor and DIDNT FINISH WHAT HE WAS DOING? oh shit.. well, at least he drove himself...
Dear god. Get the crash sack ready, it's going down
That was the last drive he ever drove sadly.
He tried to induce vomiting. I wonder if he’d have survived if he just went right to the ER
Not even Texaco Mike could have saved him.
I am a farmer. While it’s true we put off going to the doctor unless absolutely needed. Medical Insurance is crazy expensive. We do go. My grandfather just went for the first time. He’s 87.
I cant imagine how terrifying of a feeling it must be to be told by a doctor that theres not much they can do and you're probably going to die imminently.
Kinda reminds me of the guys killed from radiation exposure from critically accidents. Sarov, Cecil Kelly, Demon Core.
@bmstylee Honestly hats off to a lot of those names. They knew they were dead and did everything they could to make sure science benefitted from it. I forget which exposure incident it was but the professor told everyone to stop and mark their spot in the room with a marker. He knew he was dead and everyone else had cancer, but he didn't panic at all.
@@toastedt140 panic is a fight-or-flight response, when your mind subconsciously thinks it still has a chance to escape impending doom. Looks like Louis Slotin had fully accepted his fate by the moment he took the piece of chalk.
@@bmstylee "Well, that does it..."
I used to work at a place with a press that made some automotive part. Guy was inside working on something when another just saw it was off and started it back up. Guy heard it come on and turned around to see it was already too late. He screamed and the other guy shut it down, but it was too late.
Everything from his belly-button down was mangled, but locked tight by the press. They brought him a phone and let him call his wife and talk to his kids one last time before letting him go.
They recently had a forklift driver go through a similar incident, though less severe. He was filling out paperwork behind his life when another swung in to park behind him and broke his femur in a few places. He was rushed to the emergency room and they amputated his whole leg, but he still passed away after a week.
So sad, I'm so glad he got to tell the doctors what he wanted and said goodbye to his family before he passed. But never ever put something that could kill you into a container that indicates safe to drink/eat!
How awful 😢 My thoughts are with his family. One accidental swig of something decimated his body so badly. I think this one is an important lesson for everyone (not just farmers) to not stick chemicals in different containers, but especially food containers.
This actor is Johnny Sinns of medicine. He played a farmer, a doctor, a greasy taco guy and many more. And he's great at every role.
Will he comeback after that?😂
he might backcome @@Catastropheshe
He was the taco guy??
Greasy taco guy lmao
He kind of looks like Jon Hamm.
That was probably one of the most terrifying things I've seen. Can you imagine being told that you're going to go into multi-organ failure and that you might not wake from sedation? I can't even start to imagine the fear he and his family must've experienced. I was just hoping he'd pull through but he was doomed from the start.
>doomed from the start
The music from the video is from the game DOOM
@@mastershake407no it ain't, have not heard any heavy metal music.
At that point an individual usually feels shortness of breath, so even without hearing about multi organ failure they pretty much know they may not make it.
@@Brendan1994NLYes, it's doom music you dunmy
@@ArcYT I am sorry but I only hear the TUNES, that chubbyemu is always using, absolute no heavy metal music.
This one is genuinely heartbreaking, simply because it wasn’t the blatant, spectacular stupidity we’ve come to expect. It was a small smidge of stupidity, washed down with an insane amount of bad luck. GW did everything he possibly could to try and slow or stop the damage, and he still wound up losing the fight. Please be careful with chemicals. The extra time and space for proper storage is much less a burden than hospitalization.
Imagine the pain and despair his loved ones must've felt when they heard he couldn't stay alive because his heart stopped working and just started trembling.
My dad farmed all his life. One day, the hose came off the ammonia tank, and he breathed it. My mom thought he was a goner, but he pulled through. Farming is dangerous.
Mauler Twin 1: "New cells don't like liquid ammonia"
Mauler Twin 2: "Old cells don't like it either"
Can't help but feel for the poor guy and his family. It was an avoidable mistake, but we've all done some really careless and even stupid things at times. For it to result in such an awful death is nothing short of tragic. As always thank you for the immense respect and delicateness you present every case with.
I could see myself doing something like this
According to scientists, your chance of making silly avoidable deadly mistakes at work goes up 1500% on Monday's thanks to the lack of sleep most people experience
I’ve done almost the exact same thing as this man, but I drank blue coloured gasoline instead. I never went to the doctor so I hope it did no permanent damage.
Yeah, this is a really sad ending. I didn't know which way this would go. He really tried what he could to survive too.
them dang liberals in their fancy colleges tried to tell him don't put it in Gatorade bottles. He showed them!
15:05 daily reminder that mitochondria are, indeed, the powerhouse of the cell.
Love how he can even make the story of the effect of herbicide on a plant dramatic.
A man dropped a cheeto on the floor. This is how the cheeto shut down.
This is very heart breaking, because he didn't intentionally want to cause harm to himself. My prayers go out to his family.
It would still be sad if intentional
@@CaelWhizright? Wtf OP
@@ProbablyOnLSD6669There’s no “wtf OP” you can reasonably assume that’s not what they were saying.
literally heart breaking
Well who leaves drinks next to chemicals anyways? He was setting himself up
The worst part was that this guy wasn't even an idiot or an uneducated hillbilly, he made a genuine mistake, even though it cost him greatly. It's horrifying, knowing that you next breath might be your last.
the whole bottles thing is at least a bit stupid to begin with
Just because someone is a farmer doesn't mean they're uneducated or stupid. In fact farming has so much mechanization nowadays farmers need to have a very strong education.
@@papa_ptit was recycling, very normal and even smart, especially because he was labelling them to not make a mistake. Most people might not. The mislabeling bit was the problem- but that was a second of mindlessness. Could happen to anyone.
Keeping sports drink on the same shelf as your poisons is not bright
@@ghostdagreat nah all those chemicals already came in containers. Most of which even say do not move into any other containers.
Especially dumb is to use the same type of bottle you'd drink water etc out of. Could've at least used a Milk jug or bleach bottle. So for labeling at that point to be your only line of defense btwn you and a horrible accident.. is stupid and risky.
Like you said, takes one second of mindlessness to f up that system. That's a bad system then.
Dude sprays sports drink on his weeds. The weeds keep growing. Brawndo! It's got what plants crave: It's got electrolytes.
Oh my gosh. This one hit hard. What a sad story but well told. Condolences to his family ❤
This is one of the most severe cases I've watched on this channel aside from the dimethylmercury one, the guy who tried removing his own skin cancer and the guy who was licked by his dog. It's been a while since we've had one of these.
Honorable mention to the victim of the "hold your wee for a wii" contest, also
Don't forget poor coconut water guy. That one was absolutely mind-blowing and somewhat recent.
@@yayhandles oh my god, that one scared me, how could I forget about that case?
@@skachor I'm mostly referring to the way the organs die and shut down at an alarming speed, and also the very low to basically no probability of survival the patient had to begin with when they interacted with the substance that led to their demise.
Except for the cancer guy, that one was just insane.
@@post_ian94 so am I.
I am glad that he was completely straightforward and honest rather than trying to hide what happened.
Also glad that the doctors were so fast and up front about the probable outcome. He at least knew what was coming and got to say goodbye.
He knew what was going on, and either postponed dealing with the embarrassment or buried it.
Exactly. In a case like this being honest might just save you from a terrible death.
You can deal with any embarrassment later, negative feelings can wait - treatment can’t.
The people who try to hide it are usually the people who did it on purpose.
Yeah, although his honesty didn't safe his life.
I've had a casual interest in cellular chemistry, so I grasped the details of the chemical process being described.
As you described more and more of the process, I literally just kept feeling this growing dread... It just kept getting _worse and worse..._
Like, yikes... I knew the person described in the video was surely doomed.
_But it just kept going!_
Had the exact same feeling.
Man this guy has gone through everything - poisoned by herbicide, injected stuff in-between his legs, got a parasite from pork Tacos etc. Take a medical dictionary - you name it, he's had it. It's really incredible that he's still alive to be able to re-enact every single one of his misfortunes for us. I'm utterly shocked by his immune system and all that jazz. Keep it up strong man, I wish you a healthy and longitudinal life!
It’s so horrifying, in that moment, he went from going to live for, hopefully a few more decades, to dying a few hours later, all because of a split second decision. The scariest part is knowing immediately after that your life is in danger, but not being able to go back once you’ve swallowed it.
Just goes to show you never know how much time you have left
it kind of reminds me of the demon core incidents, one slip with a screwdriver and the scientist doing the experiment immediately knew he had no chance of living
@@beepfd radiation is terrifying
Maybe he could've saved himself had he immediately vomited everything up then and called poison control, who could've told him to ingest the charcoal, which he then hopefully had at hand or could get quickly.
I'd say being able to induce vomiting can be life saving.
@@kingofichigo Too true. Imagine if this guy did that at a workplace and someone else drank it. At least he only took himself out.
Man, that’s such a shame. Hard to imagine being in his position. Making what almost seems like a minor mistake to then being told you’ll likely die so while you’re still alive, say goodbye to your family in case we can’t fix this. Always read the label!
Better yet keep sports drinks on the fridge. Get a canteen to wear.
To be fair, the warning label was a bit inadequate. How is it that TVs(which you might touch all of 10 times over owning it) come with a california lead exposure warning, but this stuff doesnt say "ingesting more than two drops of this will kill the fucking fuck out of you" on the bottle?
@@AtlasReburdened Well no, it didn’t need to in this case. He realized the severity the second it hit his mouth. It DOES say however to keep away from children which I think is a MASSIVE understatement. Listing the side effects like you said would probably make the severity clear
label says don't drink
Also don't keep chems in drink bottles.
The ones who don’t make it bring me to the verge of tears. Companies should NOT be allowed to sell herbicides that have “no known antidote”
One thing to learn from this, have activated charcoal in your home, your work, even your car. It was the long drive to the hospital that gave the stuff time to be absorbed into his blood.
Unfortunately, the majority of pesticides don't have a known antidote. I work in pesticide safety control and there was only one pesticide that has an antidote, but it was a fumigant that kills upon inhalation.
Just tragic. I can't even imagine the pain and suffering he experienced.
Probably one of the reason why they sedated him right away.
At least the suffering got limited. (40 minutes of hell still... when driving :s)
This is probably one of the scariest and most sobering of CE’s videos. Wow. Don’t mess around with chemicals. I’m a GI nurse and I’ve seen firsthand some brutal damage done by a single accidental caustic ingestion.
You may want to share some of your stories with CE.
I live in Utah and there was a case where a fast food restaurant worker went to put sugar into an iced-tea but instead somehow put sodium hydroxide (NaOH) into it. The customer drank it and of course got several chemical burns to her mouth, esophagus, stomach, etc.
Why the restaurant had powdered drain cleaner nearby where SUGAR was boggles my mind, especially since it was an iced tea and mixing NaOH and H2O is very exothermic and heats up really fast.
@@Quake120 My mother used to work in an old people's home, and some bright spark thought it was enough to store the box of concentrated washing powder next to the dishwasher. That was until the day 2 of the elderly residents found the powder and ate it.
@@debbiehenri345 JT, a 72 year old woman presenting to the emergency room, accidentally ingested washing powder. This is what happened to her organs.
As an environmental chemist, this scenario makes me focus on safety so much more when handling pesticide samples. Thanks for this
That’s a win.
How pure is your crystals bruh?
We also learned Brawndo has what plants crave
Pesticides aren't safe. Period.
I'm always so grateful I chose physics over chemistry when I watch these videos, my worst risk is backpain from sitting at a desk.
NEVER pour anything not consumable into a misrepresenting bottle!
Also THIS is one of the reasons why you should ALWAYS use nature friendly products. You still can't consume it but they are not lethal like this.
This is eerily similar to how my papa did it 00:10
He had purple gatorade and some brand name pesticide/herbicide (roundup) right beside in a similar bottle because his brother had emptied the last bit into a smaller bottle.
He said it was oddly sweet for the first few seconds followed by this horrible chemical taste that assaulted his very sense of being leaving him wretching
He didn't end up in hospital for a day 😒 I found him all jaundiced and loopy because the very same brother was not too eager to help
I’m so sorry about your dad.
@@MusicfromMarrs he is okay now, it was a chemical with an existing cure, we caught it right away
It's so sad how he only took a single gulp by accident and did everything right (after realizing what happened) but didn't make it.
Also crazy how many actual poisons can be treated and neutralized but common herbicide you find in a home depot was so unstoppable.
Spoiler alert my dude
@kerimaltuncu8152 who goes to the comment section before watching the vid?
@@soraceantprobably a good majority of youtube
@@kerimaltuncu8152Sounds like a you problem...
@@RazgrizXMG0079yeah, but then don't complain about spoilers
The toxin's relentless march through the circulatory system as it tore up everything it touched, absolutely chilling. A looming sense of dread that permeated the whole video. Cases where the patient doesn't make it are always rough, but this one was particularly upsetting to me.
It's sort of like the dude who got blasted by the Demon Core point blank. "Well, I guess that's it."
It's just a screwdriver. What could go wrong he thought.
I absolutely agree. This one went very rough from the get go. I even said to myself, mid video "goodness! This is horrifying..." And the gravity of the whole thing. The fact that you kinda know from the very beginning that he's not going to make it, makes the scenario that much harder to listen too... Poor guy. May he rest in peace.
@@kailanGoreng *listen to
too = also
It's exactly like the Demon Core. Radiation works a lot like superoxide radicals, but where one starts a chain reaction of stripped neutrons, the other starts a chain reaction of alterations in electric charge. Free radicals are like the kiddie version of this video, which is what makes antioxidants so beneficial.
His name was Lewis Slotin
And this is why we NEVER use food containers for non-food items.
Your videos keep getting more and more in-depth. Excellent work!
As a landscaper this is a true horror story. I knew a man that got diquat leaked onto his pants around the knee area, and it ate layers of skin off his leg, and all the hair in the area fell out.
This is why stuff like diquat shouldn't even be used.
@@sn1000kI agree.
I'm gonna be honest, I had absolutely no idea Herbicides were so incredibly toxic, it's scary
There are million dollars lawsuits that habe been awarded by companies like monsantos/bayer for beacuase of the effects their herbicides and pesticides produces. There are other companies too. Some companies even make medicines that cure the effects of some of their pesticides. Conflict of interest creating a problem and offering a solution.
@@papayaman78 This is why I grow more and more in my own yard: Less poison ingested.
It's not big enough for self-sufficiency, but I get a long way in at least reducing the intake.
The US seriously needs to outlaw that stuff.
@@blondbraid7986 your right, but these companies have many revolving doors into congress, senate, etc.
@@blondbraid7986 They literally sprayed those in Vietnam War. Monsanto was bailed out by the government. Follow the money and you will see where evil profits
This is why I was taught as a cleaner to never use drinking bottles or soda bottles to house cleaning fluids.
I am so impressed how you break down and explain your medical scenarios. Thank you for your work. 🙂
This is why it's so important to have an advance directive BEFORE you get sick, not only to take the burden off your family in cases like this, but also because this poor man went from healthy to complete organ failure in a matter of days from a simple mistake. No matter how young and healthy you are, know your health rights and your death rights and get them in writing.
Sound advice. My granddad died from a brain bleed due to a fall while taking blood thinners. I had gotten a sense that morning talking to him on the phone that something was wrong and called my parents to give them a heads up. By the time our efforts to find out (from another state) what had happened and a neighbor got in his house for a welfare check, he was too far gone to be coherent. While it was really agonizing for us all, one thing that helped was that he did have an advance directive that spelled out exactly what kind of care he did and did not want in a situation like that. Not having to guess was very important. It’s a big reason that even being relatively young I have an advance directive and a will.
The HR director where I used to work, who was single and I believe 34, went mountain biking one weekend. She was riding solo but on a well-traveled trail. Passersby came upon her unconscious near her bike and she was rushed to the hospital. it was a mystery what happened because she was wearing a helmet and didn't seem to have a head injury, but her brain was profoundly affected by whatever happened. She had completed an Advance Directive previously, so in accordance with her wishes, when it became clear that she would never regain consciousness, she was put on comfort care only with no nourishment, and after several weeks in a coma she passed away. I was amazed and impressed that at her age she had an Advance Directive in place. It saved her family a lot of anguish.
Can I put it in my notes app?
@@minoena I would at least share it with one or two close people - advance directives also differ depending on the state. There's a website called Cake I used recently that can help you find the right docs and put them all in one place for family members.
Good advice, I'm looking into it now. Hope I don't need it any time soon, but one never knows.
What a tragedy; as soon as he realised what he had done he did the right things but to no avail.
Sometimes you can do everything correctly and still lose.
@@bmstyleesomeone will benefit a little more in the future with better treatment from this monitored intervention
He got careless during the labeling. A tragedy.
This channel is legendary . You're a great narrator! Huge fan , great content . Keep it up
It genuinely is just utterly appreciable that our legendary bodies the safety mechanisms like what?
I'm a medical student and it never ceases to amaze the utter complexity of nature.
My teacher once said,
"Theres a statement in biology that,
Like dissolves like"
True, Nature dissolve itself in itself.
Tbh I wouldn't consider this natural, absolutely none of it. What he took, nature doesn't produce, man did. You don't even have to accidentally drink these industrial chemicals to be affected, there is a large problem with herbicides and pesticides ending up in food and other consumables. This stuff shouldn't exist, nature produces plenty of natural alternatives that aren't super villain levels of harmful and potent. The chem featured in this video isn't even allowed in the EU and most other parts of the first world.
You throw enough stuff at the wall for 4.5 billion years and some really neat patterns start to arise. When you think of evolution as a logic gate that allows some things and disallows others, it's not much of a stretch to see how the convoluted systems of our body formed. What seems like random chance is actually an unwavering requirement by the laws of physics. For example, water doesn't form rivers by chance; its just that is physically disallowed by the laws of physics for water to do anything else except flow towards a gravitational center of mass
My husband grew up on a farm and can agree lots of dangerous things can happen.
I didn't grow up on a farm and haven't visited one, but I can also confirm lots of dangerous things can happen
@@adambonesaw3689I have visited farms but haven't grown up in one. I can indeed confirm that lots of dangerous things can happen.
Yeah people do not know the myriad of many thing that could happen. Farmers can be easily be killed by their equipment, the one video here where the farmer accidentally injected a huge vaccine dose for cows when one kicked him, the chemicals used to maintain the farm, explosive fertilizers, heat stroke, dehydration, simply hurting yourself from being outside, and a whole lot of other things.
i got to hold my dad's finger when i was 7 when he drove me and himself to the hospital after cutting it off in a machine once! farming is very dangerous. (finger was reattached successfully)
How come he’s not dead though?
Must be pure luck. 😂
The brother of a girl I knew at school committed suicide by drinking rounup when he broke up with his girlfriend. That was 30 years ago. To this day it still haunts me. I cannot imagine the horrendous death that poor young bloke suffered.
and the creators of Roundup, Monsanto, claimed that you could drink a whole glass of it and be fine because it is 'so safe'. and every year more of it is collecting our water supply. rest in peace to your friend.
How horrible. I hope GOD can heal your memory of soften that blow. I have had a similar experience
Entitled religious people, once again, trying to force feed their beliefs. I'm so sick of these mentally ill blights on humanity.
@@bombarascsomeone should dare them to try it for a change. Who knows it might actually change their minds. Lol as if. We can dream though.
@ShinePaw101 there is a video of a reporter asking the owner of Monsanto to drink a glass of it to back up his claim that it would be safe and the CEO literally says "no i'm not an idiot", it's toxicity is hiding In plain sight because when anyone other than Monsanto sponsored scientists try and investigate its toxicity they sue them into the ground.
never take toxic chemicals or poisons out of there original bottle for storage. those labels exist for a reason.
Poor guy, sad he didn't make it.
Two years ago, I got a scare, as I was accidently sprayed with fungicides (took them right to the face of course). I am very thankful that the only thing it caused me was anxiety. Otherwise, I was unharmed. Scary stuff, though.
In addition to the crucial advice about not putting hazardous chemicals in food containers and keeping them separated from food products, just like, if you're going to put something into a different container, make sure that new container is labeled *before* you transfer it. Once it's transferred, you don't know anymore. You really should keep hazardous chemicals in their original containers with their original warning labeling, but as a general rule for repackaging.
Yup, I never put anything hazardous in a different container.
I cannot fathom why you would move chemicals to a different container at all. To save a few square inches of shelf space? Mind-boggling.
@@BacteriophagebsI have condensed the number of containers by pouring like into like but the bottles are still well labeled
@@BacteriophagebsThere's a thousand reasons to do such things. Often the default containers are not actually durable enough for example. Especially if it's UV sensitive... Only takes one time for such a container to leak before you decide to get your more durable containers.
The best prescription it's more education, more farmers, working a little less hard.
this reminds me of the CE video of the guy who worked out and used caffeine powder and mislabled the containers and got too much in his system. It should be a general rule not to put dangerous chemicals into something else, though we know all it happens the whole time.
This is one of the scariest videos I can remember seeing. That it could have been so easily prevented and that there's no cure is simply terrifying.
We really should only use pesticides with cures in case of a situation like this.
It is very sad for this mans family but great that you are raising awareness.
I just love the way he explains this so much with the biochemistry aspects of it❤
When my Father was a young man he worked in a meat packing plant. Once he took a drink from a Cola bottle. For whatever reason, somebody had filled the bottle with a cleaning solution! He was rushed to hospital, but he made a full recovery.
Sounds like your father attempted to steal someone else's drink and rightly paid the price.
Was probably intentional as your dad probably did this multiple times.
My dad had a flat mate that would drink a bottle of spirit alcohol he had bit by bit so he started pissing in it a little bit each time it went down. He eventually told his flat mates and all but one laughed..
The mitochondrian is the powerhouse of the cell.
@@Chris-jw8vmI'll take the piss over the cleaning solution.
Even if he did trying to get back at whoever isn't that breaking some sort of law
If the dad died now what.....
Fill the decoy drink with 95% grain alcohol, and the thief would think they'd been poisoned, but would probably be fine.
I think this video highlights how scary herbicides and pesticides really can be. For some perspective, some of the technicians who spray pesticides in industrial potato farms have to spend 5 days in decontamination before they can even be in the same room as another human again. Pesticides and herbicides are only bug and plant killers at bug and plant doses. They are also human killers at human doses.
@chubbyemu my favorite video you’ve done! Love the storytelling emphasis on mode of action and biochemical reactions.
Love this approach, keep it up!! Masterful teaching and a good detective mystery for bio/med students.
The farmer might have been murdered by someone who switched the labels.
What I learned from this channel: don't eat out, don't eat in, don't eat at the gas station, don't go outside, don't stay inside, don't eat food, don't not eat food, don't have fun, lack of fun is bad, basically don't do anything... but if you do that u will also die
The death part is a sure thing for all of us
All men die, Highlander. But not all men live.
i don't think this channel is meant to make viewers afraid, but to be more cautious & more medically & scientifically literate. but it's true, we can't avoid all possible deaths. maybe memento mori is a tertiary lesson?
Farmers in America are really under appreciated.
Have you seen the love South Africa farmers are getting from the populace @ organized gatherings by the esteemed leader Cyril Ramaphosa?Surely a harbinger of good times to come for South Africa!
Farmers aren't morons.
@@oldskoolaspie 🤡🌎is going to find out just how indispensable farmers are when 🌎EF has 🦗w/their f'd up chitins being offered up for sustenance after they disenfranchise those growers out of their family farms.Hope I'm not around to experience any of it
All workers are underappreciated.
There's not so many of that kind of farmers anymore. It's all Agrobusiness these days. The owner of the business sits in a board room and thinks about his Golden Parachute.
The little guys are squeezed out of the market or maybe have a small farmstand if they are lucky.
That was THE smoothest AD transition I've ever seen snuck in a YT video. Good video btw. Love your content.
Thank you for this channel. I always look forward to your next episode.
I sometimes have to switch containers for herbicides but I always use empty non-food containers and put warning labels on it even though I am the only one who sprays. A roll of corrosive labels or danger labels costs almost nothing but can be vital to keeping safe. Also because of my chemistry background, I always keep a binder with the SDS for any chemical I use, that way if I have to go to the hospital for a chemical accident, I already have the exact compound and emergency medical information available.
Yes, absolutely agree as a former landscaper for about a decade--have a system in place that you know well, and is obvious even to people who might not because you are absolutely liable if people get injured from your creation of unmarked, improper containers, not to mention if you drink it yourself!
That’s solid workplace safety practices. 👏
Where do you get the safety datasheets for chemicals you might be using?
@@freedom-in-moonlightlunari8916 Manufacturers typically have them on hand and by request
@@freedom-in-moonlightlunari8916if you look up the brand and sds you can usually find it, otherwise there's a lot of free sds databases that you'll have to find the lot number or cas number for the product you've bought and input it
Probably your most brutal video yet. Herbicides are nothing to mess with…
I genuinely had a hard time watching and kept feeling my kidneys
Along with Wu-tang.
I take galcanezumab-gnlm injections monthly and they are horrifically painful (I’ve had five surgeries, four tattoos, piercings and many painful diagnostic tests and the pain does not even remotely compare) and I want to thank you because you’re the only RUclipsr who was able to motivate me to push the trigger button. Plus the sound of your video drowns out the clicking noise the auto injector makes! Thank you for motivating me to take my meds.
I honestly love this channel since they explain it so easily and like openly in a way I will understand. I have a hard time understanding most channels about health or anything related. But somehow this channel is so easy for me to understand compared to others and honestly I love how the visuals and his voice . It's nice. Keep up the good work I honestly am so happy that I found this channel
He will scare you on leftover food!😂😂😂😂😂
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Intro song is "Sinister" from DOOM 1.
I love these videos because Chubbyemu doesn’t pull any punches when talking about biochemical pathways and whatnot. As a scientist we are always told to simplify things yet he has found a way to keep things fairly complex while still making it accessible and enjoyed by a huge audience. Very inspiring.
That's what I love about them
Hey, I may not understand it all, but it inspires curiosity and a sense of awe about the complexity of our bodies :)
@jonathanverret6872 what's cool is you tell people to dumb it down and then it comes off as patronizing or condescending. But I can understand almost everything like I took 400 level biology for science majors and 8 months of a and p and got an A- , My husband is a health physicist and I understand when he talks about work but I'm just a teacher so I'm not applying anything lol
What's cool is DiQuat looks like a hexagonal Mickymouse that says Noon which is the best time of the day for the sun ironically and when he put the red line under and drew a mouth I was like damn duuuude you just proved my point even further.
While you should simplplify things you should also give hints to more complicated stuff. I knew nothing about medicine or chemistry before watching these videos and I can clearly remember not understanding anything he said at first.
There are a few pictures he shows but the explanation is never enough but over time I noticed I can understand them now. It was a long process of me watching so many videos and him repeating stuff and pictures. So yeah, I think a good way to do it is to keep explanations clear to make sure everybody understands but sprinkling a few unkown things here and there is healthy, people might understand them later or get curious about them.
I would never say I became a doctor or a chemist but I can understand way more things than before.
Terrifying! I dislike using any poisons around my home. I use boiling water to kill poison ivy and vinegar for plants in sidewalks. A farm is different, due to the size, but I still try to eat GMO free foods, I don't trust poisons. Too much cancer. This was a real eye opener video. RIP to that farmer.
Sometimes "poison" is only way to save home from infestation. For example bedbugs are immune to most cheap sprays. Such insects evolve rapidly and multiply rapidly. Only dangerous and most horrible mixes can finish the job properly.
Just bought your "This is what happened" shirt. Just had to buy as I absolutely love the art. Can't wait for it to arrive here in the UK. 😅
All poisons go in one cabinet with a child safety latch even if you don't have kids.
If I see there is liver failure… it seems that it’s almost always lethal.
Sad that this man lost his life from a simple mistake. A lot of these stories have people doing dumb things that get them hurt or killed, some people make minor mistakes and it cost them their life.
Be careful, be cautious, be informed.
That’s what I love about this channel.
Liver failure is not always lethal because the liver has plenty of regenerative tricks upon it’s sleeve. But if toxicity is overwhelming...
Then there's a recent story of a women who dies by drinking a too much water.
Also, liver transplant
Storing dangerous chemicals in poorly labeled Gatorade bottles is a dumb thing
Simple mistake? Dropping a glass on a tiled floor is a "simple mistake". This is outright playing with destiny.
Should’ve saved this for spooky month because this case is real horror
This is terribly frightening… is it any surprise why more and more people only want to eat all organic food? I wonder if anyone is actively working on a better treatment for this type of poisoning
Thank you for explaining the bio chemistry behind this. I hate when creators dumb things down
I have little interest in the technical knowledge of biochemistry but this dude makes it interesting somehow.
Safety manager here. In an industrial setting, putting chemicals into a repurposed drink bottle is a HUGE OSHA no-no (29 CFR 1910.1200) but small family farms are regulated under the Dept. of Agriculture and not the Dept. of Labor and are therefore not subject to most OSHA standards. Herbicides and Pesticides are typically EXTREMELY toxic and should always be properly contained and labeled to avoid these situations.
Also, eating and drinking while using chemicals is another big no-no, and I bet he wasn't wearing full PPE. It was like "count the OSHA violations".
It's explicitly stated on the canister for this exact reason.
Still, even without OSHA regulations, the second Chubbyemu told he put herbicide in a repurposed drink container, I figured he'd either mislabel it or the label would come off over time and he'd just drink it. That alone ought to be enough warning not to do this. Same goes with houshold detergents etc. never ever ever put them in a bottle or container that somebody could mistake for some weird energy drink or your secret moonshine stash(after all: what if his wife or kids ended up thirty and just take a swig from a bottle in the shed?)
the way you tell what's happening to his body is so horrifying, its gets me on my nerves more than a horror or thriller movie! ill sub i love your vid thanks for the time to make it!
one of my fave channels, hands down, no gory details just striaght science
I'm never prepared for the stories where the patients dont recover, but its a good reminder that doctors, even with how hard they try, aren't able to save everyone
Interesting.I'm never prepared for any of these people that are the subject of these vids to,in any way, recover
Nope, it's a bad reminder 🙃
"The nearest hospital was forty miles away". This is why we retired on the edge of a town, not out in the gorgeous nature. You never want to die just because medical help is too far away.
Or keep some of that good old activated charcoal handy.
In many countries, they have no chance of that if they are a farmer... Romania for example...
@@lennysmileyface Charcoal won't deactivate everything
It won't. But better have some and give it a try. Your chances are better with it than without it.@@RiceWitch-dingus-400
I wanted to do just that
Go to live at a place where you can still see the town(it is about 10 or 30 minute walk away at best) This way i can isolate myself yet be near enough to reach anything quickly still
I was an intern physician at a rural hospital in Indonesia where paraquat was used a lot by the communities. More than once I've met with the case of paraquat poisoning.
There was this 17 yo girl with suicidal ideation drinking a gulp of the stuff. Since the hospital I worked at was ill equipped, she had to be admitted to a higher tier hospital around 6 hours in the city. With no insurance whatsoever, the family cannot afford the fees needed for patient transport, let alone intensive care. After three days, a relative of the family chimes in to help but then her liver and kidneys had already shut down. She was then sent to the city for further treatment but the prognosis was very grim.