I hope somebody keeps offering a conventional bike with a carb and mechanical powervalve though. I have a carb'd 2018 300 XC and I just ride and ride it, there is little to go wrong, and can kickstart and ride it with a dead battery (even no battery at all). Meanwhile I overhearing about TPI's sensor issues, ECU error codes coming up, cold seizures, and uploading new maps. The two injectors on this new one will be a possible problem, since they are on 4 strokes when they get fouled. These new bikes may be great and I hope they are but I hope Beta or somebody keeps making a quality, simple 2 stroke.
@@EarthSurferUSA Not a bot. I’m not saying all bikes have to be done up with every technological thing in the world, but a solid 2 stroke with the possibility for improvements. Personally I like the Yamaha YZ250X platform as starting point for myself. Then I can add on what I want. Upgrade what I want and it will help me learn my bike- just like I’ve been doing since late 70’s. It helps to know your equipment so you can trail fix a breakdown and get home. Now I know this isn’t for everyone but it’s my opinion based on my likes is all.
Yeah they should have it for a back up in case of the electronics are dead. Still a good bike with not having to mess with the carbs in certain altitudes. But the Rev Limiter on the 2 strokes is my new favorite thing!!
i’m my opinion it’s good to be able to control the amount of lubricant your 2 stroke gets, TPI seems very lean to meet regulations but in turn can sometimes sacrifice longevity.
I’ll keep my 2022 150sx.I like kickstarting it and have been dealing with carburetors my entire life.I am 44 and old school but it just feels more like a real bike.Absolutely love it and all KTM’s
Totally agree..... I'm 58 and love my '19' tc250, best woods bike I've experienced.....tuning a carb is easy, installed a Dicks Racing 36/39 modded Keihin with a tx300 enduro tank, then a Rekluse RadiusX and FWW.....it's lightweight...flat out rips and doesn't stall....great for hare scrambles/enduros.
I think for an MX bike, electric start only is fine, because youre never more than 5 minutes from your car, so can easily just push the bike back and jump start it. Enduro bikes on the other hand should always have a kick start cause youre often in the middle of nowhere
Love the fact you can have 2 totally different bike characters with the map switch. Sometimes easy to ride can be more fun and u still get that really light feeling and lack of engine breaking with a 2T!
Finally 20 year old snowmobile technology on dirtbikes. Electronic power valves are 1980s GP bike tech, been wondering why it hasnt came sooner like honda did, and yamaha on their DT200 and TDR250
You're a smart man I was thinking the same thing two stroke technology has continued to improve many people don't know because it is improved on board snowmobiles
Because most of the efforts were botched (like that Honda powervalve). Many would probably argue the KTM TPI was botched. Tech from other places often doesn't translate well to high performance dirtbikes until said tech is super advanced. More often, dirtbike tech goes into other industries. Case in point, electric dirtbikes being the proving ground for battery and motor tech.
What an epic media event for you guys. No better way for a manufacturer to prove their new technology. KTM will sell a lot of these tbi 2strokes. Quick question. Does the mapping try to help deceleration lubrication issues 2 strokes have? Is the mapping tuned for a rich decel? And how does that affect the off throttle behavior?
@@alexandrakingi8502 no 4 strokes are still way slower with modern tech a 450 cc 2 stroke will destroy a 450 4 stroke i mean look at the 250s 2 strokes are way better
I'd like to know if the 250sx still hit like it used to. I have been considering getting a much newer bike than my 200sx but wanted to stay on the moto side of things and the e-start would be much welcomed. However, if the 250sx has a mellow powerband like the 300sx, that sounds like less fun. I want that HIT!
My mind says yes but my body says no when you say it’s extremely smooth. I love my 300 as it is with a carb BUT i was looking forwards to tbi in hopes we would have some bark compared to TPI but your not lending much hope to that dream. I’ll remain hopeful until we get some production bikes around for true and more in depth opinions. 🤙🏻
Same here! Got -19 and now -21model with 300sxs kit, pro-circuit pipe/silencer and Boyesen radvalve. Put in that red exhaust spring and it's pure fun! Maybe not the fastest for me as a "weekend warrior", but groving up on 2t era I just simply love that hard hitting..Stock 250sx with yellow spring feels like a enduro bike =).
Best dual sports you tube channel converts a tpi back to a properly tuned lectron carburetor and had HP gains throughout the entire rpm range with a gain of 6 peak HP.
XC is not this version. The enduro versions are the same as '22. I too have ordered a 300 XC-W. We will not get any of these updates until at least '24.
Why the ama in their infinite stupidity killed off the two strokes is beyond me. Definitely going to buy another 300. It is the ultimate do it all weapon.
Darn. Stoked that ktm has kept producing 2 strokes I’ve been a 2 stroke guy for awhile now and just got a 22 husky tc250 and love it! But a little sad at the moment because I (alike a lot of other 2 stroke guys) like them because they are old school (kick start, carbs, a little harder to ride, etc) and they just took a lot of the classic 2 stroke out of their bike which is kinda why we are riding and buying them
Very interesting stuff! I still have a carb ktm 250 but having a mellow map sounds nice. I will say i didnt like hondas electric pv but i am sure 25 years later ktm will gwt it right. Having a 10 year old 250xc im not super thrilled the sx got rid of the kick start all together.....
KTM, bring out a 500cc. You can then simply explain to riders how the throttle works for power delivery; want more power, pull on the throttle more; want less, ease off on it. 😂
Totally agree the two stroke hit = FUN FACTOR, lm not a fan of the homogenizing os sport vehicles, yes it mighr be faster but not as fun same with getting rid od manual transmission in sports cars
0:52 why would an electric start bike not have a kickstarter? what happens when you get a flat battery? that lightweight little piece of aluminium could be a lifesaver.
I agree lol; however, I did learn the other day that in all this time I’ve been racing with air forks, I’ve been adjusting them wrong. The air only effects the height of the bike and keeps the front end up. It doesn’t do anything in terms of stiff or soft, that comes from the clickers. Not a hostile response at all, just trying to spread knowledge.
Ktm 300 and husky TE 250/ 300 been fuel injecting production enduro models since 2019 why’s it such a surprise and ‘new’ that the motocross bikes now have fuel injection.
SX will be a 5 speed, the spec sheet says 5 speed for the XC's as well but it's early yet so it might still come in as a 6 speed (but again right now it's spec'd as a 5).
The 1984 Yamaha rz350 also had a electronic power valve this is not new technology for two strokes but at least this new technology for the dirt also I might add mellowing out the Power Band to feel more like a four-stroke is for pussies!
Cause all dirt bike manufacturers have been holding back most technology on account they've needed time to refine the 4-stroke to stay competitive. 2-strokes rule the Enduro courses and would rule the moto-cross courses if they'd let the technology roll out on the 2-strokes just as KTM has done here only like you say it's 25 year old tech. Honda invested millions of dollars lobbying the EPA to help close the door on 2-strokes and spent millions on 4-stroke engine plants knowing the smaller European manufacturers couldn't follow because of the expense of retooling every few years on the latest 4-stroke tech. Bultaco, Montesa, Ossa, Can-Am, GasGas Maico and a slew of other dirt bike manufacturers from around the world at the time were in a way forced out one way or the other. Jody Weisel has the inside story of what's happened, I've just a observed from a 70's racer point of view all along through the years. It was always Maico had the best handling bikes making Honda spend huge amounts of cash trying to beat the European Moto-cross manufacturers, so Honda gut shot them by using the EPA on the clean air act forcing everybody to change to a 4-stroke dirt bike and then buying themselves into the AMA and changing the rules around to allow the 4-stroke to have a chance, simply killing our sport overnight making it a shell of itself as it once was. Greed was Hondas motives.
@@brian5606 it wasn't manufacturers holding back. Suzuki was making EFI 2 stroke motors for Arctic Cat in the mid 90s, and Honda was also working on EFI 2 stroke tech. The technology was plenty good. But do you think your average dirt bike rider would have bought a new EFI two stroke bike 20 years ago? Of course not. Look at the push back KTM got when they released the TPI bikes. People had a cow. But then they realize there's no EFI monster hiding under their bed and now TBI is the coolest thing ever. All while people hall been enjoying EFI sleds and outboard motors for the past 20 years lol. It has nothing to do with emissions and everything to do with there was no market for EFI 2 stroke bikes 20 years ago.
@@stupidmoto To convert people all that was needed was the top pros winning on them with simple videos explaining how to to bring people up to speed and that would have been that. I've watched this demise of our sport since the beginning when in early 70's the Europeans brought moto-cross to the states opening up a whole new motosports venue which at the top of its pineal when we started beating the Europeans on our own turf the Carlsbad 500cc USGP in 1980 all the way through the 90's until we got screwed out of our sport by the Japanese induced AMA rule changers and with dumping large amounts of cash on the EPA signing the death sentence of the 2-strokes dominance we solely enjoyed. So yea, technology in a sense was held back on the 2-stroke dirt bike because they were ushering in a new era of sh!t for us to spend our coin on. Just because they had this lucrative technology on other platforms didn't mean they were going to share it with something they were trying to change up on. The younger crowd has a hard time swallowing what's really went down in our grand sport of moto-cross
With all the manufacturers making electric bikes, I love ktm for improving two strokes. Used to be a honda guy but this makes me love KTM more.
KTM is far better these days! Husqvarna & GasGas are phenomenal.
What class is this made for ? Is there a 300 class now 🤔 or is it for 450
@@benkrauz725 this would be open or 450
They are doing great things with Electric bikes too.
KTM knows that ICE Is not going anywhere. Electric bikes are a FAD
So stoked on ktm continuing to evolve two strokes. Time to speak with the wallet.
the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on
They should put Pleshinger on that 250 this year for the Nationals
I’m happy to see KTM improving 2 strokes. Hopefully other manufacturers get on the ball.
I hope somebody keeps offering a conventional bike with a carb and mechanical powervalve though. I have a carb'd 2018 300 XC and I just ride and ride it, there is little to go wrong, and can kickstart and ride it with a dead battery (even no battery at all).
Meanwhile I overhearing about TPI's sensor issues, ECU error codes coming up, cold seizures, and uploading new maps. The two injectors on this new one will be a possible problem, since they are on 4 strokes when they get fouled.
These new bikes may be great and I hope they are but I hope Beta or somebody keeps making a quality, simple 2 stroke.
@@EarthSurferUSA Not a bot. I’m not saying all bikes have to be done up with every technological thing in the world, but a solid 2 stroke with the possibility for improvements. Personally I like the Yamaha YZ250X platform as starting point for myself. Then I can add on what I want. Upgrade what I want and it will help me learn my bike- just like I’ve been doing since late 70’s. It helps to know your equipment so you can trail fix a breakdown and get home. Now I know this isn’t for everyone but it’s my opinion based on my likes is all.
Make two strokes great again!
This is the bike everyone is excited for this year. Love to see ktm still putting in R&D on two strokes, wish it had the kick start still though
Yeah they should have it for a back up in case of the electronics are dead. Still a good bike with not having to mess with the carbs in certain altitudes. But the Rev Limiter on the 2 strokes is my new favorite thing!!
Yet on the yz250 everybody wants an electric start and hydrolic clutch lol
so happy it’s premix.
Lol what happened to the electronic oil injection??
@@jmzochsnrtr doesn't work well on high performance bikes.
Why?
@@Davido50 did your KTM lock up because the oil injection broke?
i’m my opinion it’s good to be able to control the amount of lubricant your 2 stroke gets, TPI seems very lean to meet regulations but in turn can sometimes sacrifice longevity.
I’ll keep my 2022 150sx.I like kickstarting it and have been dealing with carburetors my entire life.I am 44 and old school but it just feels more like a real bike.Absolutely love it and all KTM’s
The Rieju 300 still has a kickstart and a carburetor plus KYB suspension and an FMF pipe.
Totally agree..... I'm 58 and love my '19' tc250, best woods bike I've experienced.....tuning a carb is easy, installed a Dicks Racing 36/39 modded Keihin with a tx300 enduro tank, then a Rekluse RadiusX and FWW.....it's lightweight...flat out rips and doesn't stall....great for hare scrambles/enduros.
more motocross 100 percent but electric start is better all round in enduro, still better in moto but doesn't matter as much.
Very nice machines ! KTM is killing it. Top dogs in dirtbike market.
@@EarthSurferUSA Hondas been riding ktm for years
I think for an MX bike, electric start only is fine, because youre never more than 5 minutes from your car, so can easily just push the bike back and jump start it. Enduro bikes on the other hand should always have a kick start cause youre often in the middle of nowhere
Agree 100%, not having a kickstart on an enduro is kinda silly
Enduro engine next year won't be the same as MX engine.
@@dronermal im aware
I can’t believe there’s no 150… i absolutely love the 150 sx :( It was the most fun bike on the market
Change cylinder
Love the fact you can have 2 totally different bike characters with the map switch. Sometimes easy to ride can be more fun and u still get that really light feeling and lack of engine breaking with a 2T!
Finally 20 year old snowmobile technology on dirtbikes. Electronic power valves are 1980s GP bike tech, been wondering why it hasnt came sooner like honda did, and yamaha on their DT200 and TDR250
You're a smart man I was thinking the same thing two stroke technology has continued to improve many people don't know because it is improved on board snowmobiles
Because most of the efforts were botched (like that Honda powervalve). Many would probably argue the KTM TPI was botched. Tech from other places often doesn't translate well to high performance dirtbikes until said tech is super advanced. More often, dirtbike tech goes into other industries.
Case in point, electric dirtbikes being the proving ground for battery and motor tech.
Also the reason snowmobiles cost more and more every year and are closing in on $20k.
What an epic media event for you guys. No better way for a manufacturer to prove their new technology. KTM will sell a lot of these tbi 2strokes.
Quick question. Does the mapping try to help deceleration lubrication issues 2 strokes have? Is the mapping tuned for a rich decel? And how does that affect the off throttle behavior?
I’d like to see laps times on the 300 compared to at 450. 🤘🏼
Everyone knows 2 strokes are faster than 4 strokes. Where you been the past 50 years....
@@jmzochsnrtr dont be silly. I love riding 2 strokes but these modern 450s absolutely blow them out of the water.
@@jmzochsnrtr brotha 😆 wake up
@@alexandrakingi8502 yeah modern motogp bikes 1000cc are way faster than the old motogp 500cc 🤦♂
@@alexandrakingi8502 no 4 strokes are still way slower with modern tech a 450 cc 2 stroke will destroy a 450 4 stroke i mean look at the 250s 2 strokes are way better
Very Cool 😎Thank you, Thank you Very Much 👍🏻
I have always been a suzuki 2 stroke man but starting to need newer models thinking hard about getting KTM at least they make 2 strokes new
I agree If I get a new bike going straight to the KTM group. Really nice machines now and I never thought I would say that but wow times have changed.
Imagine where 2-stroke technology would be if Formula 1 adopted 2- strokes like they proposed a while ago.
Omg a 2 stroke F1 car would suckkkkk
Great review! Can't wait for the full race review.
Really like KTM 300 2 stroke very smart Josh thanks dude👍💯
I'd like to know if the 250sx still hit like it used to. I have been considering getting a much newer bike than my 200sx but wanted to stay on the moto side of things and the e-start would be much welcomed. However, if the 250sx has a mellow powerband like the 300sx, that sounds like less fun. I want that HIT!
Not really how the power valve works but it does widen the usable power band.
and i like carburetor better also
Curious if you can change anything on the mapping. Or do we need an aftermarket ecu ?
Same here I thought I bled red turns out it was dark orange
Make a 500 two stroke for us that would be beast
How could ktm drop the blue colours!!?? I have the 22 350 and it is a beauty of a bike
How long do you have to warm up the motorcycle when it is cold so that the spark does not melt?
What is mix ratio fuel to oil.on the 300sx?
Looks like I'm going KTM!
I can't wait for my 23 300sx gunna be a blast. I was wondering are they 5 or 6 speeds.
the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on
5 speed on the SX bikes.
@@mbrick i was just at the dealership and I ran through the gears (on show floor) '22 250sx and I swear it had a 6 speed. Very strange
My mind says yes but my body says no when you say it’s extremely smooth. I love my 300 as it is with a carb BUT i was looking forwards to tbi in hopes we would have some bark compared to TPI but your not lending much hope to that dream. I’ll remain hopeful until we get some production bikes around for true and more in depth opinions. 🤙🏻
Same here! Got -19 and now -21model with 300sxs kit, pro-circuit pipe/silencer and Boyesen radvalve. Put in that red exhaust spring and it's pure fun! Maybe not the fastest for me as a "weekend warrior", but groving up on 2t era I just simply love that hard hitting..Stock 250sx with yellow spring feels like a enduro bike =).
I loved my 94 300 MXC. The 550 MXC was way more exiting. Had to have a vary stern talk with my right hand B4 riding that thing
I'm an off-road guy, and I'm in the market for a new 300; seeing the 2k price difference between the sx and xc, I think I'm going to get an sx.
Where do u get the mount for your helmet? Chin mount that drops down? That’s the perfect angle.
The shot thing is is that the new ktms still got them short bloody exhaust’s
Im glad they are putting purple back on the bikes
How are 2-strokes still in production in 2022?
Best dual sports you tube channel converts a tpi back to a properly tuned lectron carburetor and had HP gains throughout the entire rpm range with a gain of 6 peak HP.
I ordered the 300xc last week, can't wait to get this beast 🍻
Nice.
XC is not this version. The enduro versions are the same as '22. I too have ordered a 300 XC-W. We will not get any of these updates until at least '24.
the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on
@@normanorench2534 Not sure I understand you comment?
@@kirkwilliams4942 it's a RUclips bot. That same exact comment is on most of the other comments
Why the ama in their infinite stupidity killed off the two strokes is beyond me.
Definitely going to buy another 300. It is the ultimate do it all weapon.
Was EPA /CAFE restrictions. You have Yamaha & KTM brands still. They are better than old stuff .
the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on
the 125 sounds so good
considering most modern day riders have no clue how to jet a carb this was likely the right move
its because everything is fuel injected now, except for these two stroke bikes
...what was that intro piece of music from??? Awesome...
I have that same motor 0 miles, new box, it has already damaged me 4 waits and it does not have a 1 hour of use
Darn. Stoked that ktm has kept producing 2 strokes I’ve been a 2 stroke guy for awhile now and just got a 22 husky tc250 and love it! But a little sad at the moment because I (alike a lot of other 2 stroke guys) like them because they are old school (kick start, carbs, a little harder to ride, etc) and they just took a lot of the classic 2 stroke out of their bike which is kinda why we are riding and buying them
Nah it's all evolution!
the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on
I would like to see that 300 race against a 450. 👍🏻 🇨🇦🇺🇸
So the 300sx is a little smoother than the 300sx kits even in aggressive map?
125 😍
Will the husky and gas gas get the same mods as the KTM such as the electric start and fuel injection?
Husky already have fuel injection
Husky yes, Gasgas MC250 remains carbureted.
@@jayryan1956 no they don’t, the new ones will though
Can you swap modes while your riding?
Very interesting stuff! I still have a carb ktm 250 but having a mellow map sounds nice. I will say i didnt like hondas electric pv but i am sure 25 years later ktm will gwt it right. Having a 10 year old 250xc im not super thrilled the sx got rid of the kick start all together.....
Not enough power for Laroccos leap?
They weren’t allowed to jump it
Does the 150 have all these new mods you mention? I'm guessing if the 125 does then the 150 does??
Where is this track? It looks like heaven
Thanks for sharing. I love the channel I just subscribed.
I really want the 300sx
Can you guys edit some clips bouncing off the new rev limiter when aired out? Sounds unreal.
KTM, bring out a 500cc. You can then simply explain to riders how the throttle works for power delivery; want more power, pull on the throttle more; want less, ease off on it. 😂
Jesus dude... you can ride that thing!
Wish Suzuki would build 2 strokes again like an RMX250/300.
I ordered mine
No audio 😢
Map 1...the vet setting.
I’m buying the300.
Cheers man. Altitude compensation?
they have auto compensation!
Damn I was hoping it would still have the 2 stroke hit.
Powervalve is electric now so you’ll just need a different map with an aftermarket ecu
Totally agree the two stroke hit = FUN FACTOR, lm not a fan of the homogenizing os sport vehicles, yes it mighr be faster but not as fun same with getting rid od manual transmission in sports cars
I'll take one of each
Danggg that’s a sexy bike if I ever seen one
Wish we could tell which one u were riding in the vid. And if that was the 300 in beginning looked like a slug compared to earlier years
You have the test the maco 700.
Are they still 60:1?
Yes.
Ktm really sticking to the great ol saying. MIXING GAS, HAULING ASS
How come the first RUclips review of these bikes is from America! Have I missed something, wheres the Euro reviews?
The SX aren’t coming to the UK till September, not sure about the rest of Europe.
0:52 why would an electric start bike not have a kickstarter? what happens when you get a flat battery? that lightweight little piece of aluminium could be a lifesaver.
Perhaps do the "Bump Start" thing.
They couldn’t just pump the forks a bit for you?
I agree lol; however, I did learn the other day that in all this time I’ve been racing with air forks, I’ve been adjusting them wrong. The air only effects the height of the bike and keeps the front end up. It doesn’t do anything in terms of stiff or soft, that comes from the clickers. Not a hostile response at all, just trying to spread knowledge.
@@Certifiedtrolllll right, but I thought I heard him say it was diving a bit. The air affects hold up like spring rates. Guess he meant valving 🤷🏼♂️
When he said soft he could have been talking about the damping and not the spring rate (errr. "air pressure"). 👍👍
For whatever reason i can only watch it in 360p.
Takes a bit for RUclips to catch up sometimes. Try again soon
But... did any one hit laracos leap?
They weren't aloud to by ktm one of the press people said
the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on?
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💯
Thank god it's remix
I want a 200, that'd be perfect
Heil to the King . . . KTM
I LOVE THE HAD HITTING PIPE BUT I'M 60...
Absolute monsters of a bike
Ktm 300 and husky TE 250/ 300 been fuel injecting production enduro models since 2019 why’s it such a surprise and ‘new’ that the motocross bikes now have fuel injection.
Totally different, TPI vs TBI. Also electronic power valve is added in now.
If I was rich im buying a 150 a 300 and maybe 2-3 4 strokes
Burns less oil than the 4 strokes;)
6 speed ??
SX will be a 5 speed, the spec sheet says 5 speed for the XC's as well but it's early yet so it might still come in as a 6 speed (but again right now it's spec'd as a 5).
Lectron and Smart Carbs are sweating rn 😂😭
I own a 2001 RMX250 with RM tank and seat to ride mx and won't part from it for no amount of money.
No kick stater 😭
the ktm 2023 xc model brought the leg to turn on
Didn’t hit the leap though
Where's the 500cc or 450cc 2 stroke?
Where's the fabled electronic oil injection 💉 that's supposed to solve the emission problem???
Two throttle cables
The 1984 Yamaha rz350 also had a electronic power valve this is not new technology for two strokes but at least this new technology for the dirt also I might add mellowing out the Power Band to feel more like a four-stroke is for pussies!
My rm250 stock sounds better
No ktm 150??
Rock is dead.
Two-strokes are not.
Made in USA 💪
Dirt bike riders are the only guys who could be impressed by 25 year old technology lol
Cause all dirt bike manufacturers have been holding back most technology on account they've needed time to refine the 4-stroke to stay competitive. 2-strokes rule the Enduro courses and would rule the moto-cross courses if they'd let the technology roll out on the 2-strokes just as KTM has done here only like you say it's 25 year old tech. Honda invested millions of dollars lobbying the EPA to help close the door on 2-strokes and spent millions on 4-stroke engine plants knowing the smaller European manufacturers couldn't follow because of the expense of retooling every few years on the latest 4-stroke tech. Bultaco, Montesa, Ossa, Can-Am, GasGas Maico and a slew of other dirt bike manufacturers from around the world at the time were in a way forced out one way or the other. Jody Weisel has the inside story of what's happened, I've just a observed from a 70's racer point of view all along through the years. It was always Maico had the best handling bikes making Honda spend huge amounts of cash trying to beat the European Moto-cross manufacturers, so Honda gut shot them by using the EPA on the clean air act forcing everybody to change to a 4-stroke dirt bike and then buying themselves into the AMA and changing the rules around to allow the 4-stroke to have a chance, simply killing our sport overnight making it a shell of itself as it once was. Greed was Hondas motives.
@@brian5606 it wasn't manufacturers holding back. Suzuki was making EFI 2 stroke motors for Arctic Cat in the mid 90s, and Honda was also working on EFI 2 stroke tech. The technology was plenty good. But do you think your average dirt bike rider would have bought a new EFI two stroke bike 20 years ago? Of course not. Look at the push back KTM got when they released the TPI bikes. People had a cow. But then they realize there's no EFI monster hiding under their bed and now TBI is the coolest thing ever. All while people hall been enjoying EFI sleds and outboard motors for the past 20 years lol. It has nothing to do with emissions and everything to do with there was no market for EFI 2 stroke bikes 20 years ago.
@@stupidmoto
To convert people all that was needed was the top pros winning on them with simple videos explaining how to to bring people up to speed and that would have been that. I've watched this demise of our sport since the beginning when in early 70's the Europeans brought moto-cross to the states opening up a whole new motosports venue which at the top of its pineal when we started beating the Europeans on our own turf the Carlsbad 500cc USGP in 1980 all the way through the 90's until we got screwed out of our sport by the Japanese induced AMA rule changers and with dumping large amounts of cash on the EPA signing the death sentence of the 2-strokes dominance we solely enjoyed. So yea, technology in a sense was held back on the 2-stroke dirt bike because they were ushering in a new era of sh!t for us to spend our coin on. Just because they had this lucrative technology on other platforms didn't mean they were going to share it with something they were trying to change up on. The younger crowd has a hard time swallowing what's really went down in our grand sport of moto-cross
Bruh
Yes someone else metioned it better than the news about dum EV bikes. Those are disgusting. 2-stroke or 4-stroke FOREVER