D&D Story: Chaotic Stupid vs. Chaotic Stupid
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- The DM brings in a guest from his other game to make up for a missing player.. She and Francis, our chaotic stupid player , have a contest to see who can be the most obnoxious. They both win.
Francis's first adventure found here:
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“If these two got together and had a baby...” I’d feed it to the lizard folk. See how they like it. D:
The Campaign I’ve been animating is turning pretty chaotic itself, but at least we’re not this bad. DX
But that might make the lizard folk sick! and nice animation!
It'd probably be eaten before it had a chance to be born.
When your Cleric realizes that they can curse the other player characters.
I think we're all cursed by these two
I prefer a Lawful party because Chaotic players generally play their characters like irrational shitbags, constantly breaking the law and expecting to get bailed out just because of their player status.
Chaotic Neutrals? Chaotic Good shouldn't be doing that.
@@sunayama4650
They'll just find a way to justify it and after any agregious and repeated justifications I will bump them down to Neutral myself. I HAD to murder the woman because the duke asked me to, despite the fat cash reward for doing so!" Then I rip off their Chaotic Good badge to replace it
@@omlo9093 Oh that's definitely not chaotic good. I believe that's neutral evil. lol
@Kuma Suna if not even chaotic STUPID!
@@assassin3107 Ah. How could I forget that 10th alignment.
A chaotic stupid metagamer that argues with the GM? Sounds like a living nightmare.
DM didn't seem to mind.
Things like this are why i like dm's that have awareness mechanics ( whole party coming down the hall talking and laughing, denizens hear them and prepare. Cook a snake egg omelet one room over whole room smells cooking investigates and prepares ambush).
that would have worked out well.
Two of those in the same campaign... Im impressed the fabric of reallity itself dident collapse at the sigth of this.
I think it might have been a mercy if it did.
*nanny runs in nd points at Pcs*
"That one treatened to torture me, but THAT one ate one of the eggs!"
*everyone targets them*
would have been great!
Great, now you got me reminded of our Paladin player in Curse of Strahd.
He actually had a pretty cool character idea, a prince that was raised to become a general for his kingdoms army while his older brother became king, but the older brother died so the crown fell to him. And he realy didnt want the crown, so he convinced the council of the king that he needed to prove himself by winning the war against an ancient enemy that they had, but not had any contact with for a loong time, this being Strahd. So he marched in to Barovia with an army, effectively resupplying the area with well armored zombies. This was great since we were getting up in the levels and the opposition was getting a bit weak. He even went so far to first deliver a new proclamation of war to Strahd himself to do things the "right way". Good stuff.
But then, after he had delivered the letter, he met up with us at the tavern, saw that the tavern keeper was a lady and proclaimed that they were in fact at war now, and in war rape happens, so if she would just bend over, that would be great and we could get started on the raping and pillaging that comes with war.
I think he was trying to make a funny. He did not succeed.
Chaotic Evils who pretend to be Chaotic Neutral are my least favorite players.
Yep, when there are two of them it sucks.
In my experience there are only 4 alignments.
Lawful good. Lawful stupid. Stupid good. And pure stupid.
I appreciate the more metagaming, murderhobo, rapey, pieces of shirt other people play with, the less likely I am to have to play with them. Your sacrifice is appreciated.
I enjoy talking to people about the stories so it's worth the sacrifice.
Though I don't use D&D alignments; that's chaotic evil! Purely disgusting sadism. Seriously, how do you keep ending up with these players?
I play alot of games each week looking for stories.
@@EternallNewbie I've considered offering to run for you, but I'd hope it wouldn't make for a good story. :-P
Sebasculin Plus it also comes with the fact that most people want to do whatever they want because they feel there won’t be consequences. That’s why it’s important for DMs to punish acts of evil. Such as groups of mercenaries hunting them down for a bounty on their heads. Thus evil characters would try to be more careful rather than “I fIrEbAlL eNtIrE tOwN lOl”
I just let my players do whatever they want. In my groups at least, I have found that by refusing to ever step in and force something to happen (ie, meta gaming as a dm) or refusing to prevent a player from doing what they know they have the physical ability to do, they seem to take on the moral responsibility for their actions. When they fuck it up, and hurt the game for everyone, they feel bad because the out of game party is mad at them. Important point: play with people who would feel bad in a situation like that. When you have a group of people who you are actually friends with, and you force them to deal with the reality of their choices, they get in line real fast.
I also make sure that the players understand my concept of allingment. Ie, lawful means strong "code" (doesnt have to be good), good means "for the greater good", evil means "selfish and self serving (but can extend to the party versus the world)", and chaotic means fluid in "code" not random and illogical. When they really understand this, no one even tries the "i shoot the npc in the back because im chaotic evil HAHA" because they know a real chaotic evil character wants everyone around them to THINK they are good, until they the the opportunity to get what they want.
Alternatively my character is a lawful good who plays as chaotic evil in casual circumstances. He doesnt want to be seen as the heroic type so he "acts" the part of a fuckboy prince who doesnt give a shit about the world. However when it comes down to important encounters, protecting innocents, or anyone coming to harm his true morals come out. In my opinion that leads to the best roleplay potential because you can be chill with the NPCs (unlike so many stiff clerics) but still be a hero.
yeah that's a good point, I don't really know any of these people in real life, most of them live in Europe and I'm US, so odds are I'll never meet them.
@@EternallNewbie Oh wow. Yeah you can't rely on public shaming what so ever XD
As a DM I'd argue that threatening to torture them and eat babies, and then going through with it anyway even after the prisoner confessed, is clearly in evil territory and justifies an alignment change.
I figured she was already evil.
Seeing as lizard and snake creatures should have good senses of smell, she should have smelled like roasted unborn and been mobbed in a fit of collective rage during the boss fight, especially considering she did it one room over they should have smelled and heard it and planned accordingly.
Even the most noble paladin would be pushed to uncontrollable rage at the realising you ate one of their kids just to be a dick
@@steveno3141 I think giving the boss one level of barbarian because of the amount of rage would be fair :)
Dude I like the new animation your trying, one of the reasons I like your channel so much is because your not afraid to do your own thing and it's original. Again I say you have the patience of Job, these two would have caused me either to rage quit, or just kill them both in game hahaha!!
Thanks, I'm not sure which way I like better, kinda a little of A and a little of B I think. Whenever i run into players like this, I just think to myself take notes it's gonna make a good story.
The only chaotic neutral that isn't chaotic stupid I ever met is me, as instead of "I do stupid shit expecting my party to accept it" I was something like The Clowns from Tokyo Ghoul before they went to sieges etc., basically bored cynical observer, having fun, sometimes helping the losing side to prolong the conflict and creating all sorts of shenanigans (plus, I once accidently erased all the dwarfs from existence, ooops) but actively trying not to endanger the party and rolling with party's decisions if they want stuff, not really caring if party is good or evil (and Petra, the character I talk about, fought for 8 parties since my DM gives players new lvl 1 charscter with randomized class and gender after character death (unbalanced, but fun) and Petra survived 10 campaigns, reached lvl 20, and after a semi-TPK, being last one standing, achieved godhood, becoming chaotic patron of lonely survivors, sending her disciples to help new parties becoming skilled so they won't be killed easily).
all these crazy players always fuel me with ideas on how to make a cruel villain.
Now if he wanted to seduce the mother, *that* would have been funny. Dragonborn returns to find his mum making moony eyes at Chaotic Stupid, make that a pilot and you got a show.
I'd watch it!
I once had a group and they decided that 3 of them had to be chaotic murder hobos. I promise you if you put a curse on them that inflicts the same pain as they caused to a innocent on themselves. They quickly calm down.
that is a clever way to deal with things.
@@EternallNewbie it worked amazing wonders after it got one of them killed. Then they became so paranoid 😂
I played a game once with a paladin who paid two boys who helped us by throwing a gold coin between them and telling them not to fight over it. They did, playfully, and the paladin attacked them to stop the fight. The player was confounded over why everyone took issue with this.
funny, did he later understand?
Not that I'm aware of, but I haven't played with him since that game years and years ago. He tends to get super mad when people point out stupid stuff he does rather than address said stupid stuff.
My chaotic neutral sorceress would MURDER these 2 for this disgusting affront. Probably because she's a yuan ti. Granted, she'd probably murder them for trying to kill the nanny. She'd also ask the nanny if she'd like to be her servant.
so not chaotic stupid.
@@EternallNewbie more like chaotic selfish
Smene starts with "rape jokes" I ensure they find the door. Not necessarily their teeth.
I cant stand anything with that word in it. Its not fun to say or use. If amy gm or dm allows it, I'll stay in the game, but I'll make sure my characters voice is heard, and if it quiets down i let it go. If not, than i have no problem killing party members.
@@kevynhansyn2902 That really sounds like something to be brought up at the player-level.
If you just role-play your character being uncomfortable with it, your fellow players may not know that you personally have actually been offended. And it's probably not in-character for whoever you're playing to kill someone for offensive jokes... Don't meta-game, just talk it out respectfully. If you can't talk it out respectfully, try finding a new group.
Actually Mr Silver, i have done that many times in the past. I been roleplaying for over 25 years and i dont have a problen leaving parties. But yes, it does start as a discussion at the table and whatever happens after there, well if i dont like it, i leave...well ill take someone down with me first.
As for being offended, nahhhhh its just lack of tolerance. The word doesnt offend me, i dealt with people that have gone through that drama and its no fun matter in any way shape or form. Im a hard man to get offended, hell i offend more people just by having this amazing goatee.
@@kevynhansyn2902 What's the difference between a lack of tolerance and offense? If it's something you won't tolerate, doesn't it mean it's offended you or your sensibilities... *Shouldn't* it mean it's offended you or your sensibilities? How do you determine what not to tolerate? If it warrants intolerance, doesn't it warrant an emotional response on your end?
I'm sorry, I'm just having a difficult time parsing what you're saying.
@@MrSilvUr Not tolerating it means they won't put up with it. Taking offense to it means it's offended them, but they might not do anything about it. Taking offense can lead to not tolerating, but does not inherently mean that you will act about it. Just that you're more likely to.
Played a campaign last year as a chaotic evil, elf, anti-paladin, the other chaotic evil character was an orc barbarian that was so dumb his role play gave his wife and some other players headaches. Between the two of us we killed the father, son, and grandmother of a gnome family. The grandmother I had flayed all the flesh from her waist area so that it hung on her like skirt, and then hung her as a chandelier; still living mind you. This was actually something I had planned for another player; female, half elf, prostitute, druid. A couple of failed rolls and a desire not to be mauled in my bedroom by a transformed dire bear ended that plan. Oh and the orc barbarian ate every one of the gnome's we had slaughtered.
that sounds horrible...
@@EternallNewbie Well I figured if if your going to be evil why not go all the way. As for my DM he found it amusing to set and watch my party react to the twisted events as they transpired.
if i were you I would have already killed them both. but that's just how I play my paladins. and if they kept making new chaotic evil characters those characters would also continue to die until either I was kicked from the campaign or the offending person would leave.
again though it might just be me. when I am playing a paladin I try and uphold justice and order by protecting the innocent from evil.
I play different sort of paladins based on the edition 3.5 yeah all lawful good but in 5e you can go with CE paladins. Tho personally I do the same thing
LOL LOVE the way your story goes
Thank you very much!
I guess the name would be murder meta crybabies, or a similar thing. *Hmm...*
Who the hell DMs for you, Lucifer!? I'd have ejected both of those players with EXTREME prejudice of the "get the fuck away from my table you sociopathic shit-stain" kind. I don't care if it's all fantasy, there are some places you just _do not_ go without a full OK from the entire group.
Imagine if Francis was the good version.
that's a scary thought.
not the 9 Hells, that's a match made in the depths of the Abyss!!!
maybe the bride is from one and the groom the other.
Sounds like a shitty DM if it happens twice in two mirror campaigns
I like him, I think he's improving quite a bit.
thats not how suggestion works... you didn't have to kill people you're suggested to do so
good to know.
@@EternallNewbie the suggestion must be something your character is likely to do, so if you had been suggested to kill either of the Chaotic Stupid people, then you would have to as we both know you wanted them dead XD
I wish i can play as many dnd games as you or join one with you newbie, though it probably wouldn't be an interesting story to tell it be a load of fun.
Fun is the most important, though I am always looking for good stories.
Tbh tho they sound like very inexperienced players and the decisions dawn made when it came to the yuan ti nanny could most certainly could have worked with an intimation or other chrasima based check and slavery and rape is a part of d&d and role playing in general but the fact that this character was run with what I can assume to be a lawful good paladin in a "good" aligned game was a mistake I'm surprised the paladin didn't get an alignment infringement for not killing said character and I would expect dawn or Francis should have been told how to expect roleplaying for a "good" aligned campaign
Drop any player (or GM) telling rape “jokes”.
I hate those players the6 end up ruining the inter campaign
By the way great video keep it up
thanks, I appreciate the words of encouragement.
Yeah, that's chaotic stupid.
times 2
I hope you have found a better game to be in
this one is just about to end, francis has gotten better and dawn hasn't been back.
@@EternallNewbie thats wonderful
So on the topic of hurder hobo like they both seem to be, being a murder hobo doesn't take any real effort, if you've seen a horror movie you know what to do, it's boring and if you do it people know exactly what kind of person you are, because you either are trying to go for shock factor or you really like the idea of what you're doing.
Like if I really wanted to I could come up with a character who would be a murder hobo and would easily be worse then them, but I don't actually enjoy doing stuff like that, I kind to play at least a somewhat good person.
yeah it just doesn't seem that fun to me.
@@EternallNewbie Pretty much, i've done of a few of those evil things, and really there is no reason to unless you are specifically playing for the side of evil, so the most evill thing I can remember doing off the top of my head was lining up a group of soldiers who were tied upand then coming up behind them and slitting each one's throat as I came down the line since we couldn't take prisoners and couldn't leave witnesses.
Are you playing these game sessions through Skype, or another online gateway? Or are you playing them in person? If it's online, please inform me why you are still dealing with these players. It makes for great stories, I admit, but I can't see why you would want to keep playing with them. If it's in person, leave. I once left a group because of how the DM house-ruled a few things. I even liked the people there, but I wasn't having fun playing, so I told the group and left after wishing them well. And no, not ironically, I meant them all well as people, but not as players. There are always more people to play with since this game has gotten a lot of attention in the last year. I found my current gaming group through a post on the hospital message board where I work. And that was three years ago and we're still going strong. Ask those who already have common interests with you, like co-workers. Ask people you already interact with on a weekly basis. Ask the guy that makes your coffee at Starbucks, the girl that's your cashier at Walmart, or whoever you interact with a lot and see again and again. Those people have interests too and they might like to play the game with you.
Again, I have to admit, I do get a kick out of your tales of irritation from these encounters. So either way, keep playing your character;)
Sincerely,
Virgil
I'm wondering the same thing. I would have bailed at this point. There are other groups looking for players.
These are all online, and I don't mind them because no matter how bad they get, I think about how I can make an interesting story out of it.
That's a relief to hear. I'm glad the inspiration will always be there at least;) I wish you luck in finding more crazy players and the temperance to withstand them, lol. Keep it up Eternall Newbie.
@@EternallNewbie Is it like purposedly watching bad movies with friends to have a good laugh?
Not hells, ABYSS
or both, there are two of them.
This AL? Even if not I'd bring up these disturbances to the event organizer &/or store owner
Not AL and I enjoy the story material.
Where the hell do you find these people?
The Underdark?
he doesn't find them, they find HIM
There are way more of them than you would think, I'd say most of the games I play have one or so, probably because it's online. People are more ready to be jerks when they can do it anonymously.
love these videos. how would you run an evil camgaine?
I'm working on a story about my character who's neutral leaning towards evil, Captain Tydel Hack and Slash Nash
How many players are in campaign
It varies, we have about 5 normally but have picked up a few more recently.
So you have two players disrupting gameplay and being jerks. Wow.
one was a guest, so we normally only have one.
Do the people you talk about watch your videos?
When I talk about my main group, I've told them about it, all the rest have no idea as far as I know. I don't advertise it because I'm afraid they will try to do things to get into the videos, and that's never good.
@@EternallNewbie Yeah id find it so funny if they stumbled across these and realised they were being talked about haha.
So... Have you considered asking your DM about PvP? As a Paladin, you're kind of obligated to thwart these guys, even if doing so means violence.
Dawn disliked this video.
It might have been Francis
@@EternallNewbie it was their love child.
Hey do you edit your vidos
Of course, though I do have this thing where I don't like looking at my finished product. Actually this video is one of the ones that convinced me I really need to check out the finished product before I upload.
I'm more of a Lawful Stupid player myself.
I've yet to run into a really outstanding version of that yet.
@@EternallNewbie I died of thirst because I couldn't find an official who would give me permission to drink from the fountain in the middle of town.
Lol Balut eggs of Yuan Ti Horrible.
I thought they would be too.
Still a better love story than twilight (I'm relevant I swear)
Team Jacob!
question: why do you play with those people?
It's interesting. Kinda like a car wreck, you don't want to look but can't help yourself.
@@EternallNewbie
... i mean, it does make for interesting content... i guess.
Quick question
Can RUclipsrs see who likes and subscribes?
I dont know this guy seems kinda cool
Francis is that you?
I’m first for once.
Also rember to tell dawn and Francis to watch their coin peruses they may just get a bit lighter in the night
That would require getting closer to them than I would like.
Dear god I was cringy….. felt ashamed to see that long wall of text apology’s to your eyes man!
For a Lot of your vids I just want to ask....WHY? What is the purpose for doing that!!
The same reason people climb mountains?
@@EternallNewbie I mean more along of why do people act like that at your game tables... it's amazing!
Where do you play that you keep finding these people? xD
Online, with lots of different groups.
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wow really? nice!
Nice video btw, I gotta say though that the animation is one that can rival Disney's golden age.